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17>1
08-02-2018, 05:33 PM
Didn't see one of these started yet. Post updates, links, general discussion from anyone lucky enough to witness an actual practice.

Go Bison!!

tony
08-02-2018, 05:38 PM
Bison1660 hitting it hard today.

According to listeners, people kind of expect to see Phoenix Sproles playing a role this year.

HerdBot
08-03-2018, 05:23 AM
Bison1660 hitting it hard today.

According to listeners, people kind of expect to see Phoenix Sproles playing a role this year.

Tomorrow Randy Hedberg will be on the show as hes leaving the first practice. Should be a fun day I always enjoy that first presser with Klieman

tony
08-03-2018, 02:25 PM
Tomorrow Randy Hedberg will be on the show as hes leaving the first practice. Should be a fun day I always enjoy that first presser with Klieman

Coach Hedberg was also on a BI podcast: https://twitter.com/NolanPSchmidt/status/1024064652907560963

17>1
08-03-2018, 03:05 PM
For some reason I thought camp opened yesterday. Did it start today, or am I way off??

wisco4
08-03-2018, 03:19 PM
For some reason I thought camp opened yesterday. Did it start today, or am I way off??

You're right but I think they just had meetings yesterday. Upper classmen reported last night at 5, first practice today.

17>1
08-03-2018, 03:26 PM
You're right but I think they just had meetings yesterday. Upper classmen reported last night at 5, first practice today.

Sounds good, thanks!

HerdBot
08-03-2018, 06:30 PM
Randy Hedberg NDSU Quarterbacks Coach on Bison 1660 - 8-3-18

https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/randy-hedberg-ndsu-quarterbacks-coach-on-bison-1660-8-3-18

Here's the full show , lots of good stuff from Bison 1660
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-insiders-full-show-august-3-2018

Christopher Moen
08-03-2018, 07:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouHiGrWrRuA

tony
08-03-2018, 09:12 PM
Tough luck for Jayden Price. Looks like he has a knee injury - must not be too serious because he was running albeit with a huge limp. That can't be much fun.

HerdBot
08-03-2018, 10:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouHiGrWrRuA

No formal press conference. Seems kind of D2 lol

HerdBot
08-03-2018, 11:25 PM
Some good day 1 camp stuff on the breakdown
"The BrakeDown" Friday, August 3rd (Full Show)
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-brakedown-friday-august-3rd-full-show

Vet70
08-03-2018, 11:47 PM
From Michael Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1025425937746337792

roadwarrior
08-04-2018, 05:09 AM
No formal press conference. Seems kind of D2 lol

We always have a formal press day. It's not on the first day of practice.

Mr Meaty
08-04-2018, 08:58 PM
We always have a formal press day. It's not on the first day of practice.

I believe media day is next Wednesday.

Professor Chaos
08-07-2018, 06:31 PM
Good video clip up on @NDSUfootball twitter page of some highlights from the first day of full pads today: https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1026891023958593536

Some nice Oklahoma drill action towards the end including one of Noah Gindorff (#87) blowing up Spencer Waege (#99).

Christopher Moen
08-07-2018, 06:35 PM
Good video clip up on @NDSUfootball twitter page of some highlights from the first day of full pads today: https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1026891023958593536

Some nice Oklahoma drill action towards the end including one of Noah Gindorff (#87) blowing up Spencer Waege (#99).

How about Mercadel knocking the ball out of Babicz's arms and subsequently tossing him! Guy might have some pure Greco-Roman skills to him.

Vet70
08-07-2018, 06:53 PM
Good video clip up on @NDSUfootball twitter page of some highlights from the first day of full pads today: https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1026891023958593536

Some nice Oklahoma drill action towards the end including one of Noah Gindorff (#87) blowing up Spencer Waege (#99).

Man, that clip makes me want football to be here more than ever!

HerdBot
08-07-2018, 07:28 PM
Good video clip up on @NDSUfootball twitter page of some highlights from the first day of full pads today: https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/1026891023958593536

Some nice Oklahoma drill action towards the end including one of Noah Gindorff (#87) blowing up Spencer Waege (#99).

100% testosterone. Uber manly shit

OrygunBison
08-07-2018, 08:03 PM
Wow, that was fun. On Monday, we start practice for our 7/8 youth team. I might show this at practice.

Twincitybizon
08-08-2018, 03:56 AM
Any Insider information yet on camp? Interested to see who emerges/ is looking best of the young guns at wide out and the battle for back up QB. Also can't wait to see which young LB in the wings decides he NEEDS to get on the field. Too much excitement now!

bruinbison
08-08-2018, 11:41 AM
Any Insider information yet on camp? Interested to see who emerges/ is looking best of the young guns at wide out and the battle for back up QB. Also can't wait to see which young LB in the wings decides he NEEDS to get on the field. Too much excitement now!

Dom mentions true freshmen Kenneth Channelle & Phoenix Sproles looking good at practice yesterday during his video blog. Also mentioned that 6’ 6” freshman Zach Mathis did not practice - was on the sidelines - no reason given yet.

http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/bison-video-blog-2018-fall-camp-practice-5/

Kolpack had an article on transfer WR Jimmy Kepouros:

http://www.inforum.com/sports/football/4482096-transfer-bison-receiver-hoping-persistence-pays?amp&__twitter_impression=true

tony
08-08-2018, 02:22 PM
How can Robbie Grimsley already be a senior? Unpossible!

Professor Chaos
08-08-2018, 02:28 PM
How can Robbie Grimsley already be a senior? Unpossible!
Same could be said about a lot of those guys who grew up pretty quick during that 2015 season. You knew it was a special class though when every point in that Montana playoff blowout except CJ Smith's INT return TD was scored by a freshman.

HerdBot
08-08-2018, 07:23 PM
Here's the Klieman Press Conference today. It was airled live on Bison 1660

Bison 1660
Head Coach Of The Bison Chris Klieman Press Conference 8 - 8-18

https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/head-coach-of-the-bison-chris-klieman-press-conference-8-8-18

Phil Hansen 8 - 8-18
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/phil-hansen-8-8-18

The Insiders August 8, 2018 FULL SHOW
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-insiders-august-8-2018

bruinbison
08-08-2018, 07:47 PM
Dom posted the 1st depth chart

https://mobile.twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY?ref_src=twsrc%5Eappleios%7Ctwcamp%5Esa fari%7Ctwgr%5Eprofile

- Holden Hotchkiss listed at 2nd Team QB

- Desmond Cain backup at both WR spots

- Senior Colin Conner at LG (Soph Dillon Radunz at LT)

- Senior Luke Bacon at RG (Soph Cordell Volson 2nd Team LT)

- former walk-on Josh Howieson 2nd Team RT - how’d that last walk-on OL from Brainerd work out???

- Michael Tutsie backing up Robbie Grimsley

- James Hendricks or Jaylan Wimbush at free safety.

24 players listed on Off & Def -
13 are upperclassmen
6 Soph & FR on Off
5 Soph & FR on Def

tolnabison
08-08-2018, 07:56 PM
Dom posted the 1st depth chart

https://mobile.twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY?ref_src=twsrc%5Eappleios%7Ctwcamp%5Esa fari%7Ctwgr%5Eprofile

- Holden Hotchkiss listed at 2nd Team QB

- Desmond Cain backup at both WR spots

- Senior Luke Bacon at RG - Soph Cordell Volson 2nd Team LT

- former walk-on Josh Howieson 2nd Team RT - how’d that last walk-on OL from Brainerd work out???

- Michael Tutsie backing up Robbie Grimsley

- James Hendricks or Jaylan Wimbush at free safety.

24 players listed on Off & Def -
13 are upperclassmen
6 Soph & FR on Off
5 Soph & FR on Def
Jaxon Brown the backup at Strongside Linebacker.

17>1
08-08-2018, 08:09 PM
Jaxon Brown the backup at Strongside Linebacker.

Just another indication that this team is loaded with guys that can play multiple positions. Deeeeeeeeeeep!!

Professor Chaos
08-08-2018, 08:23 PM
Dom posted the 1st depth chart

https://mobile.twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY?ref_src=twsrc%5Eappleios%7Ctwcamp%5Esa fari%7Ctwgr%5Eprofile

- Holden Hotchkiss listed at 2nd Team QB

- Desmond Cain backup at both WR spots

- Senior Colin Conner at LG (Soph Dillon Radunz at LT)

- Senior Luke Bacon at RG (Soph Cordell Volson 2nd Team LT)

- former walk-on Josh Howieson 2nd Team RT - how’d that last walk-on OL from Brainerd work out???

- Michael Tutsie backing up Robbie Grimsley

- James Hendricks or Jaylan Wimbush at free safety.

24 players listed on Off & Def -
13 are upperclassmen
6 Soph & FR on Off
5 Soph & FR on Def
Here's the photo from Dom's twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkGPMMyU0AEX_tR.jpg

Interesting to see Dimitri Williams not listed on the WR two deep after he was there last year even with RJ still there. I'm assuming there's something to Dom's report that Williams has been lining up at RB in practice. Perhaps a Derrick Lang type role for him as a 3rd down pass catching back? He is an exceptional blocker and he put on 13 pounds in the offseason which isn't the norm for a senior skill position guy. He would also be good in the delta formation as a blocker.

Also, how freaking awesomely ridiculous is it that preseason second team all-MVFC DE Derrek Tuszka isn't even listed as the starter at DE???

It's interesting to see Jaxon Brown moved to backup SLB behind Cox. I think most of us expected Hendricks to be the safety that moved to LB due to depth at safety and lack thereof at LB but look's like Jaxon Brown is that guy instead.

BisManBison
08-08-2018, 08:32 PM
Here's the photo from Dom's twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkGPMMyU0AEX_tR.jpg

Interesting to see Dimitri Williams not listed on the WR two deep after he was there last year even with RJ still there. I'm assuming there's something to Dom's report that Williams has been lining up at RB in practice. Perhaps a Derrick Lang type role for him as a 3rd down pass catching back? He is an exceptional blocker and he put on 13 pounds in the offseason which isn't the norm for a senior skill position guy. He would also be good in the delta formation as a blocker.

Also, how freaking ridiculous is it that first team preseason all-MVFC DE Derrek Tuszka isn't even listed as the starter at DE??

That is just stupid!!!! Our defensive line is absolutely loaded!!!

And I love we have 10 spots on the 2 deep for the oline and no one shows up twice.

This team is DEEP!!!

17>1
08-08-2018, 08:53 PM
That is just stupid!!!! Our defensive line is absolutely loaded!!!

And I love we have 10 spots on the 2 deep for the oline and no one shows up twice.

This team is DEEP!!!

All upper classmen too, that's nuts.

89MTBISON
08-08-2018, 09:15 PM
This defense looks sick, never thought I'd see a D with better potential than what we had in '13, but damn.... Jackson Hankey on the two deep at linebacker, Beck 2.0?

Bison"FANatic"
08-08-2018, 10:01 PM
We can mass sub our whole Dline without a major drop off. Talk about ability to wear a oline down. Ohhhhhhyaaaa

tony
08-08-2018, 10:06 PM
How about the TEs that aren't listed on the two-deep? Yikes.

KilldeerBison
08-08-2018, 10:52 PM
Glad to see Ty Brooks is listed and reported he is healed. From the Forum: Brooks hurt his shoulder in the FCS semifinal win over Sam Houston State and missed the title game against James Madison. He was cleared to play a week before the spring game, but sat it out anyway. He's fully healthy.

HerdBot
08-08-2018, 11:08 PM
This defense looks sick, never thought I'd see a D with better potential than what we had in '13, but damn.... Jackson Hankey on the two deep at linebacker, Beck 2.0?

Beck played a completely different position and both players have completely different skill set. Hankey is more of a tough guy base defense middle linebacker who will leave the field on passing downs. Beck is the speedy outside linebacker who can run like a deer and cover. In a perfect world, Jack Begley emerges. The kid can run.

EC8CH
08-08-2018, 11:31 PM
In a perfect world, Jack Begley emerges. The kid can run.

The Decula of Becks.

tony
08-08-2018, 11:53 PM
The Decula of Becks.

You must explain this!

HerdBot
08-08-2018, 11:54 PM
I wouldn't put too much stock into the depth chart. Historically, the upper class man are listed at the top.

A few random thoughs.

- I love the fact Jaxon Brown is playing linebacker. The kid is one hell of an athlete but looking at the depth we have at safety, this makes perfect sense. He's got decent speed at safety but at linebacker he's faster than hell.

- Our O-line is NFL big. Not just fat 300 pound fatties either. Tall, lean, and athletic.

- Our cornerback depth is the best since 2012-2013

- Our DE depth is silly good. There will be injuries and more guys will play but next year when we lose 3 seniors, we got Spencer Waege, Tanner Sundt, and Logan McCormick plus with Ogbu and with Tony Pierce red shirting, they get to lean from some great players.

- Curious to see how the backup DT spot goes behind Aaron Steidl and Blake Williams. Will this be a breakout year for guys like Darnell and Karcz or will they get pushed by younger guys like Lane Tucker, Michael Kelly, Quinn Alo, or Biegler?

- Middle linebacker is my biggest concern. Marlette is a stud but he's coming off a knee injury. I haven't seen enough but I don't know if any of our middle linebackers are great in coverage. Will we go nickel? Will we move someone like Jabril to the middle on passing downs? How is the development of Jack Begley coming along?

- Tight Ends - You can only list 2 on the depth chart but believe me, our young TE's will get their opportunities.

- Wide receiver is the biggest question mark on offense. We really need Dallas Freeman and Desmond Cain to emerge this year. If both of those guys go out with a bang, we are set. But call it a gut feeling, but Dimitri Williams is just due to do something big and I think he's going to have some sort of swiss army knife type role. Senior year. He is the best athlete of the group and he added 13 pounds this off season

tolnabison
08-09-2018, 12:24 AM
I wouldn't put too much stock into the depth chart. Historically, the upper class man are listed at the top.

A few random thoughs.

- I love the fact Jaxon Brown is playing linebacker. The kid is one hell of an athlete but looking at the depth we have at safety, this makes perfect sense. He's got decent speed at safety but at linebacker he's faster than hell.

- Our O-line is NFL big. Not just fat 300 pound fatties either. Tall, lean, and athletic.

- Our cornerback depth is the best since 2012-2013

- Our DE depth is silly good. There will be injuries and more guys will play but next year when we lose 3 seniors, we got Spencer Waege, Tanner Sundt, and Logan McCormick plus with Ogbu and with Tony Pierce red shirting, they get to lean from some great players.

- Curious to see how the backup DT spot goes behind Aaron Steidl and Blake Williams. Will this be a breakout year for guys like Darnell and Karcz or will they get pushed by younger guys like Lane Tucker, Michael Kelly, Quinn Alo, or Biegler?

- Middle linebacker is my biggest concern. Marlette is a stud but he's coming off a knee injury. I haven't seen enough but I don't know if any of our middle linebackers are great in coverage. Will we go nickel? Will we move someone like Jabril to the middle on passing downs? How is the development of Jack Begley coming along?

- Tight Ends - You can only list 2 on the depth chart but believe me, our young TE's will get their opportunities.

- Wide receiver is the biggest question mark on offense. We really need Dallas Freeman and Desmond Cain to emerge this year. If both of those guys go out with a bang, we are set. But call it a gut feeling, but Dimitri Williams is just due to do something big and I think he's going to have some sort of swiss army knife type role. Senior year. He is the best athlete of the group and he added 13 pounds this off season

These two are tied together. Coach said in his presser he wants to get Jabril work in the middle. Also thinks that Jaxon plays better close to the line of scrimmage.

HerdBot
08-09-2018, 12:39 AM
These two are tied together. Coach said in his presser he wants to get Jabril work in the middle. Also thinks that Jaxon plays better close to the line of scrimmage.

Jabril could be like a Carlton Littlejohn. Grant Olson played base downs. On nickel LJ slides to the middle.

Base downs Marlette and Jabril. In nickel take Marlette out, slide Jabril to the middle, and put Jaxon Browne in for Jabril. Jaxon will be great in coverage for a linebacker

Ans who knows, next year Jabril could be a 4 down middle linebacker. Carlton Littlejohn did it and Jabril is much bigger

17>1
08-09-2018, 02:45 AM
Have fun trying to score against that defense, especially in the FFD. This is gonna be an unbelievable season, I can feel it.

NDSU1980
08-09-2018, 03:04 AM
Have fun trying to score against that defense, especially in the FFD. This is gonna be an unbelievable season, I can feel it.

Yep, I think it's curb stomp time. Everything we had in '13 and maybe better. Still worried about punter though, but I doubt we will be using him much any way.

scottietohottie
08-09-2018, 12:06 PM
I got a chuckle out of Klieman saying he thought they were pretty good on kickoffs. Should be when you kickoff ten times a game.

totoinfl
08-09-2018, 12:28 PM
I wouldn't put too much stock into the depth chart. Historically, the upper class man are listed at the top.

A few random thoughs.

- I love the fact Jaxon Brown is playing linebacker. The kid is one hell of an athlete but looking at the depth we have at safety, this makes perfect sense. He's got decent speed at safety but at linebacker he's faster than hell.

- Our O-line is NFL big. Not just fat 300 pound fatties either. Tall, lean, and athletic.

- Our cornerback depth is the best since 2012-2013

- Our DE depth is silly good. There will be injuries and more guys will play but next year when we lose 3 seniors, we got Spencer Waege, Tanner Sundt, and Logan McCormick plus with Ogbu and with Tony Pierce red shirting, they get to lean from some great players.

- Curious to see how the backup DT spot goes behind Aaron Steidl and Blake Williams. Will this be a breakout year for guys like Darnell and Karcz or will they get pushed by younger guys like Lane Tucker, Michael Kelly, Quinn Alo, or Biegler?

- Middle linebacker is my biggest concern. Marlette is a stud but he's coming off a knee injury. I haven't seen enough but I don't know if any of our middle linebackers are great in coverage. Will we go nickel? Will we move someone like Jabril to the middle on passing downs? How is the development of Jack Begley coming along?

- Tight Ends - You can only list 2 on the depth chart but believe me, our young TE's will get their opportunities.

- Wide receiver is the biggest question mark on offense. We really need Dallas Freeman and Desmond Cain to emerge this year. If both of those guys go out with a bang, we are set. But call it a gut feeling, but Dimitri Williams is just due to do something big and I think he's going to have some sort of swiss army knife type role. Senior year. He is the best athlete of the group and he added 13 pounds this off season

With depth and size of the OL and the depth at RB...it looks like we are good to go on a ground and pound game...the receivers might get a chance to grow into the position a little.

Jim Puetz
08-09-2018, 12:51 PM
First team OL averages 6'5" 306, second team averages 6'5" 307, that's 10 offensive linemen averaging 6'5" 306.5. The Rams are going to be awesome.

Professor Chaos
08-09-2018, 01:31 PM
One position group that doesn't get a lot of chatter that I think is also going to be rock solid is the secondary.... particularly Marquise Bridges. With the way he stepped in last year for the SHSU and JMU games I think he might be the best corner on the team by the end of this year, Jalen Allison included. We all know what Allison can do as a 3 year starter and 4 year contributor. Grimsley is on about every first team AA list. And Wimbush and Hendricks tag teaming at FS and nickel is about as solid as it gets as well. Hayes and Davis both showed at the end of last year that they can hold their own if forced into action. Klieman continues to rave about Michael Tutsie and how he might've been their best special teamer had he been able to play last year. Given how he played in the spring and having another year to progress I get the feeling he'd start at S at just about any other MVFC school.

In a word the defensive secondary is just:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/d0a57ecc7186bc5ada8731754e308804/tenor.gif

17>1
08-09-2018, 03:10 PM
I could go on and on about how excited I am with the build of this team right now. When did the last group of Bohl recruits leave? I'm pretty sure Stick committed the year Bohl left, and Klieman and Co had to keep them committed, right? Look at the size of these Sr and Jr classes, tons of talented guys sticking around and creating some depth that we haven't seen at NDSU ever. Klieman and Entz have got to be licking their chops at the opportunity to coach this defensive group.

Also, as far as special team concerns, it sounds like it's a huge emphasis of this camp. If we can stay healthy, I see improvements in every area. It helps that Roehl is getting involved with that group too.

EndZoneQB
08-09-2018, 03:18 PM
One position group that doesn't get a lot of chatter that I think is also going to be rock solid is the secondary.... particularly Marquise Bridges. With the way he stepped in last year for the SHSU and JMU games I think he might be the best corner on the team by the end of this year, Jalen Allison included. We all know what Allison can do as a 3 year starter and 4 year contributor. Grimsley is on about every first team AA list. And Wimbush and Hendricks tag teaming at FS and nickel is about as solid as it gets as well. Hayes and Davis both showed at the end of last year that they can hold their own if forced into action. Klieman continues to rave about Michael Tutsie and how he might've been their best special teamer had he been able to play last year. Given how he played in the spring and having another year to progress I get the feeling he'd start at S at just about any other MVFC school.

In a word the defensive secondary is just:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/d0a57ecc7186bc5ada8731754e308804/tenor.gif

It's not getting a lot of chatter? Lol d'ohk.

17>1
08-09-2018, 05:53 PM
Spoke with a friend of mine that was invited to practice today with several other boosters. Things that stood out to him.

1)The line is huge.
2)Trey Lance is going to be great!
3)Very impressed with Christian Watson

I know, probably not anything new as far as updates go, but it's cool to hear from someone that is at a practice that isn't from the media. Sounds like there were about 40 or so boosters, and the coaches spoke with them for a bit too. Coaches are constantly trying to raise the standard, talked about guys coming back from last year with weight increases, and also spoke about areas they are focusing on with recruiting.

HerdBot
08-09-2018, 06:05 PM
I could go on and on about how excited I am with the build of this team right now. When did the last group of Bohl recruits leave? I'm pretty sure Stick committed the year Bohl left, and Klieman and Co had to keep them committed, right? Look at the size of these Sr and Jr classes, tons of talented guys sticking around and creating some depth that we haven't seen at NDSU ever. Klieman and Entz have got to be licking their chops at the opportunity to coach this defensive group.

Also, as far as special team concerns, it sounds like it's a huge emphasis of this camp. If we can stay healthy, I see improvements in every area. It helps that Roehl is getting involved with that group too.

Klieman and his coaches recruited young guys like Jabril Cox, Dillon Radunz, Volson, Gindorf, Howieson, Josh Hays, and Seth Wison


The 2015 class which was 100% Klieman includes
Bruce Anderson
Matt Anderson
Marquise Bridges
Ty Brooks
Jaxon Browne
Jack Darnell
Dom Davis
Robbie Grimsley,
James Hendricks
Ben Ellefson
Zack Johnson
Cole Karcz
Aaron Mercadel
Cam Pedersen
Demaris Purifoy
Brock Robbins
Derrek Tuszka,
Dimitri Williams,

The 2014 had a few guys that were committed when Bohl left but these guys were all post Bohl
Wimbush, Blake Williams, Darriius Shepherd, Collin Connor, Nate Jenson and Lance Dunn

The Bohl staff had their hands on Stick, RJ, Jaylen Allison, and Menard but Klieman and his staff kept them.+

They also had their hands on the North Dakota kids but lets face it, we don't lose in state kids with our without Bohl.

Guys like Jordheim, Butler, and Steidl were walk ons and recruited by current coaches.

Klieman and Bohl are both great recruiters.

reformedUNDfan
08-09-2018, 06:16 PM
2013 vs 2018, on paper

OL: 2013 is a high bar, but even if 2018 it isn't better at tackle it will be as good or better in the middle

FB/TE: 2018, the talent and depth and TE is overwhelming

WR: hard to know right now, but I speculate that 2018 could have a good advantage here if the rumors of the freshman pan out.

RB: Lance is IMO the best back here since Lamar, and Bruce is excellent as well. Crock and Ojuri were great but Crocket would be just another (excellent) cog in 2018's stable

QB: Imagine telling a rube fan in 2013 that Brock would be our worst QB of the decade

Offense: 2018 should have an advantage here, possibly a significant one

DL: both the units were deep and loaded. This year might deeper, but 2013 had KE

LB: Cox and whichever of several veteran upperclassmen put around him will be very good, possibly as good as Beck Olson and Littlejohn, and hopefully deeper

DB: Williams Shepard Heagle Dudzik Smith are the GOAT. Shepard and Smith had tremendous gamechanging speed at safety that I don't think anyone on 2018 can match. (IIRC 4.43 and 4.35 40's) This year should be deeper, and roughly as good at corner, and all the FS candidate have better hands than Dudzik.

Defense: roughly a tie

Special Teams: 2013, KR, PR, K, P all better in 2013

Overall: 2018

El_Chapo
08-09-2018, 06:22 PM
2013 vs 2018, on paper

OL: 2013 is a high bar, but even if 2018 it isn't better at tackle it will be as good or better in the middle

FB/TE: 2018, the talent and depth and TE is overwhelming

WR: hard to know right now, but I speculate that 2018 could have a good advantage here if the rumors of the freshman pan out.

RB: Lance is IMO the best back here since Lamar, and Bruce is excellent as well. Crock and Ojuri were great but Crocket would be just another (excellent) cog in 2018's stable

QB: Imagine telling a rube fan in 2013 that Brock would be our worst QB of the decade

Offense: 2018 should have an advantage here, possibly a significant one

DL: both the units were deep and loaded. This year might deeper, but 2013 had KE

LB: Cox and whichever of several veteran upperclassmen put around him will be very good, possibly as good as Beck Olson and Littlejohn, and hopefully deeper

DB: Williams Shepard Heagle Dudzik Smith are the GOAT. Shepard and Smith had tremendous gamechanging speed at safety that I don't think anyone on 2018 can match. (IIRC 4.43 and 4.35 40's) This year should be deeper, and roughly as good at corner, and all the FS candidate have better hands than Dudzik.

Special Teams: 2013, KR, PR, K, P all better in 2013

Overall: 2018


M-WILL would like a word with you... this is laughable.

2013 > 2018 all day long and twice on sundays, sorry.

Rixen
08-09-2018, 07:32 PM
2013 vs 2018, on paper

OL: 2013 is a high bar, but even if 2018 it isn't better at tackle it will be as good or better in the middle

FB/TE: 2018, the talent and depth and TE is overwhelming

WR: hard to know right now, but I speculate that 2018 could have a good advantage here if the rumors of the freshman pan out.

RB: Lance is IMO the best back here since Lamar, and Bruce is excellent as well. Crock and Ojuri were great but Crocket would be just another (excellent) cog in 2018's stable

QB: Imagine telling a rube fan in 2013 that Brock would be our worst QB of the decade

Offense: 2018 should have an advantage here, possibly a significant one

DL: both the units were deep and loaded. This year might deeper, but 2013 had KE

LB: Cox and whichever of several veteran upperclassmen put around him will be very good, possibly as good as Beck Olson and Littlejohn, and hopefully deeper

DB: Williams Shepard Heagle Dudzik Smith are the GOAT. Shepard and Smith had tremendous gamechanging speed at safety that I don't think anyone on 2018 can match. (IIRC 4.43 and 4.35 40's) This year should be deeper, and roughly as good at corner, and all the FS candidate have better hands than Dudzik.

Defense: roughly a tie

Special Teams: 2013, KR, PR, K, P all better in 2013

Overall: 2018

Looking at snap counts to see who was actually getting noticeable play time in 2013 would be the most fair assessment since we can't predict the future value of 2018 underclassmen depth. That being said here are my thoughts.


OL: 2013 - Turner, Haeg, Gimmestad, Zack Johnson, Colville, Jeremy Kelly. 2013 had maybe 2 of the best OTs the Bison have had in their history with quite a few other very good players.

FB: 2013 - Grothmann and Bonnett? Easy answer

TE: 2018 - I will succumb to the kool aid. Vaadeland and Albers Were a very good duo. I think Ellefson, Jenson, Gindorff, and Babicz will all get legit snaps and will be very fun to watch.

WR: 2013 - Not even close. Vraa, Smith, and Gebhardt in a heartbeat. The only way I imagine we top that is if we have 2 out of the blue prodigies that make Darius our #3.

RB: 2018 - Crockett and Ojuri were excellent but this class has unheard of active depth as well as top end talent. Bruce and Lance match Crockett and Ojuri or close, and then toss in 2-3 more studs.

QB: 2018 - Brock is a legend but his best quality was that he was a leader, tough, and a winner. Easton is all those things as well along with a better athlete and arm. We are so spoiled.

DE: Push - Emmanuel, Jirik, Hardie, and Ambrosius = Menard, Tuszka, Butler, and Jones. The 3 deep for DE does look better for 2018 but won't count them in.

DT: 2013 - Perry, Drevlow, and Schaetz seems better then Steidl, Williams, Karcz, and Darnell.

LB: 2013 - Cox might end up a legend but 2013 already had multiple. Olson, Beck, Littlejohn, Thornton and a young Deluca. Not even close imo.

CB: Push - Marcus, CJ, Shep, Champion, and Colvin seems just as talented as Allison, Bridges, Hayes, Davis, and Wimbush. Actually leaning 2013 but Bridges and Hayes are getting the benefit of development.

S: 2013 - Once again not close. Heagle and Dudzik are a legendary duo and Liekhus was a solid backup. I do think Grimsley and Dempsey were right there with them but Dempsey is gone. Question mark at FS.

K: 2013 - Keller

P: 2013 - LeCompte

Overall I think, on paper, that 2013 is better. Their OL and DL were both marginally better which is key. Their special teams looks vastly superior. I also think their LBs and WRs were noticeably better. 2013 didn't have a weakness or question mark. 2018 does. Still a great team this year and worth discussing.

Caveat that this analysis is pretty unfair to 2018 because some of the value and talent we are attributing to 2013 is tied with how many of those players finished their careers in 2014 and 2015 as studs but were partially unknowns leading into 2013.

Snowgoose
08-09-2018, 07:42 PM
Looking at snap counts to see who was actually getting noticeable play time in 2013 would be the most fair assessment since we can't predict the future value of 2018 underclassmen depth. That being said here are my thoughts.


OL: 2013 - Turner, Haeg, Gimmestad, Zack Johnson, Colville, Jeremy Kelly. 2013 had maybe 2 of the best OTs the Bison have had in their history with quite a few other very good players.

FB: 2013 - Grothmann and Bonnett? Easy answer

TE: 2018 - I will succumb to the kool aid. Vaadeland and Albers Were a very good duo. I think Ellefson, Jenson, Gindorff, and Babicz will all get legit snaps and will be very fun to watch.

WR: 2013 - Not even close. Vraa, Smith, and Gebhardt in a heartbeat. The only way I imagine we top that is if we have 2 out of the blue prodigies that make Darius our #3.

RB: 2018 - Crockett and Ojuri were excellent but this class has unheard of active depth as well as top end talent. Bruce and Lance match Crockett and Ojuri or close, and then toss in 2-3 more studs.

QB: 2018 - Brock is a legend but his best quality was that he was a leader, tough, and a winner. Easton is all those things as well along with a better athlete and arm. We are so spoiled.

DE: Push - Emmanuel, Jirik, Hardie, and Ambrosius = Menard, Tuszka, Butler, and Jones. The 3 deep for DE does look better for 2018 but won't count them in.

DT: 2013 - Perry, Drevlow, and Schaetz seems better then Steidl, Williams, Karcz, and Darnell.

LB: 2013 - Cox might end up a legend but 2013 already had multiple. Olson, Beck, Littlejohn, Thornton and a young Deluca. Not even close imo.

CB: Push - Marcus, CJ, Shep, Champion, and Colvin seems just as talented as Allison, Bridges, Hayes, Davis, and Wimbush. Actually leaning 2013 but Bridges and Hayes are getting the benefit of development.

S: 2013 - Once again not close. Heagle and Dudzik are a legendary duo and Liekhus was a solid backup. I do think Grimsley and Dempsey were right there with them but Dempsey is gone. Question mark at FS.

K: 2013 - Keller

P: 2013 - LeCompte

Overall I think, on paper, that 2013 is better. Their OL and DL were both marginally better which is key. Their special teams looks vastly superior. I also think their LBs and WRs were noticeably better. 2013 didn't have a weakness or question mark. 2018 does. Still a great team this year and worth discussing.

Caveat that this analysis is pretty unfair to 2018 because some of the value and talent we are attributing to 2013 is tied with how many of those players finished their careers in 2014 and 2015 as studs but were partially unknowns leading into 2013.

I agree with this assessment.

roadwarrior
08-09-2018, 07:48 PM
Klieman also said this morning that the fall camp rules have changed. All 110 guys are in practice now. No more limit of 90 before classes begin.

runtheoption
08-09-2018, 08:04 PM
I agree with this assessment.

I agree that assessments were made.

HerdBot
08-09-2018, 08:18 PM
Looking at snap counts to see who was actually getting noticeable play time in 2013 would be the most fair assessment since we can't predict the future value of 2018 underclassmen depth. That being said here are my thoughts.


OL: 2013 - Turner, Haeg, Gimmestad, Zack Johnson, Colville, Jeremy Kelly. 2013 had maybe 2 of the best OTs the Bison have had in their history with quite a few other very good players.

FB: 2013 - Grothmann and Bonnett? Easy answer

TE: 2018 - I will succumb to the kool aid. Vaadeland and Albers Were a very good duo. I think Ellefson, Jenson, Gindorff, and Babicz will all get legit snaps and will be very fun to watch.

WR: 2013 - Not even close. Vraa, Smith, and Gebhardt in a heartbeat. The only way I imagine we top that is if we have 2 out of the blue prodigies that make Darius our #3.

RB: 2018 - Crockett and Ojuri were excellent but this class has unheard of active depth as well as top end talent. Bruce and Lance match Crockett and Ojuri or close, and then toss in 2-3 more studs.

QB: 2018 - Brock is a legend but his best quality was that he was a leader, tough, and a winner. Easton is all those things as well along with a better athlete and arm. We are so spoiled.

DE: Push - Emmanuel, Jirik, Hardie, and Ambrosius = Menard, Tuszka, Butler, and Jones. The 3 deep for DE does look better for 2018 but won't count them in.

DT: 2013 - Perry, Drevlow, and Schaetz seems better then Steidl, Williams, Karcz, and Darnell.

LB: 2013 - Cox might end up a legend but 2013 already had multiple. Olson, Beck, Littlejohn, Thornton and a young Deluca. Not even close imo.

CB: Push - Marcus, CJ, Shep, Champion, and Colvin seems just as talented as Allison, Bridges, Hayes, Davis, and Wimbush. Actually leaning 2013 but Bridges and Hayes are getting the benefit of development.

S: 2013 - Once again not close. Heagle and Dudzik are a legendary duo and Liekhus was a solid backup. I do think Grimsley and Dempsey were right there with them but Dempsey is gone. Question mark at FS.

K: 2013 - Keller

P: 2013 - LeCompte

Overall I think, on paper, that 2013 is better. Their OL and DL were both marginally better which is key. Their special teams looks vastly superior. I also think their LBs and WRs were noticeably better. 2013 didn't have a weakness or question mark. 2018 does. Still a great team this year and worth discussing.

Caveat that this analysis is pretty unfair to 2018 because some of the value and talent we are attributing to 2013 is tied with how many of those players finished their careers in 2014 and 2015 as studs but were partially unknowns leading into 2013.

Heagle was kind of a liability in coverage but his tackling was legendary.

Grimsley is one of the most dynamic strong safeties we've ever had. He covers like a corner, has crazy UND speed, and his tackling has evolved from meh to above average. His best football will be played this year.

Bison20
08-09-2018, 08:40 PM
Heagle was kind of a liability in coverage but his tackling was legendary.

Grimsley is one of the most dynamic strong safeties we've ever had. He covers like a corner, has crazy UND speed, and his tackling has evolved from meh to above average. His best football will be played this year.

I agree with grimsley becoming a much better player and going to have a huge year. He really struggled his first year and a half and has made huge improvements since then.

oldmantutters
08-09-2018, 08:55 PM
Heagle was kind of a liability in coverage but his tackling was legendary.

Grimsley is one of the most dynamic strong safeties we've ever had. He covers like a corner, has crazy UND speed, and his tackling has evolved from meh to above average. His best football will be played this year.Marcus was a bit of a liability as well. There's no one else I'd rather have out there in bison history because he was such a game changer, but he did gamble and lose from time to time.

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HerdBot
08-09-2018, 09:12 PM
Marcus was a bit of a liability as well. There's no one else I'd rather have out there in bison history because he was such a game changer, but he did gamble and lose from time to time.

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Heagle wasnt a liability in coverage because he made risky picks. He was a liability because he wasnt very fast. One of my all time favorite players but he was basically a 4th linebacker

Grimsley can fly.

MankatoBison
08-09-2018, 09:14 PM
Heagle was kind of a liability in coverage but his tackling was legendary.

Grimsley is one of the most dynamic strong safeties we've ever had. He covers like a corner, has crazy UND speed, and his tackling has evolved from meh to above average. His best football will be played this year.

I Lol'd at that one haha

El_Chapo
08-09-2018, 09:32 PM
Marcus was a bit of a liability as well. There's no one else I'd rather have out there in bison history because he was such a game changer, but he did gamble and lose from time to time.

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M Will was a Liability?? haha screw off with that. the best player in NDSU history. changed the face of the program with his attitude, swagger, winning !!

Da_Bison
08-09-2018, 10:58 PM
M Will was a Liability?? haha screw off with that. the best player in NDSU history. changed the face of the program with his attitude, swagger, winning !!


Now that is some funny stuff, he’s isn’t even top 20 material as far as best Bison ever. LOL

OrygunBison
08-09-2018, 11:01 PM
M Will was a Liability?? haha screw off with that. the best player in NDSU history. changed the face of the program with his attitude, swagger, winning !!

Seriously, dude. I love MWill too but he wasn't even our best corner in 2013. He dropped off a bit that year. I remember teams going after him because the other side was shut down and MWill took a lot of chances.

Vet70
08-09-2018, 11:36 PM
First team OL averages 6'5" 306, second team averages 6'5" 307, that's 10 offensive linemen averaging 6'5" 306.5. The Rams are going to be awesome.

I went over to Cal Poly and looked at their roster and none of their 10 D-linemen are returning starters. Two or three are Juco transfers. They have a couple of 300 pounders, but they only average 263. Of course, they say they can get by with smaller players because by going to Cal Poly they are smarter. I think that if our running game gets going this could get ugly.

HerdBot
08-09-2018, 11:48 PM
I went over to Cal Poly and looked at their roster and none of their 10 D-linemen are returning starters. Two or three are Juco transfers. They have a couple of 300 pounders, but they only average 263. Of course, they say they can get by with smaller players because by going to Cal Poly they are smarter. I think that if our running game gets going this could get ugly.

That's the beauty of the option. If you dont have the talented lineman, you can get by with undersized players who can pull.

Vet70
08-09-2018, 11:51 PM
That's the beauty of the option. If you dont have the talented lineman, you can get by with undersized players who can pull.

Right, but I don't think being smaller helps their D-line much.

tony
08-10-2018, 12:26 AM
I went over to Cal Poly and looked at their roster and none of their 10 D-linemen are returning starters. Two or three are Juco transfers. They have a couple of 300 pounders, but they only average 263. Of course, they say they can get by with smaller players because by going to Cal Poly they are smarter. I think that if our running game gets going this could get ugly.

Dunno... that's bigger than NDSU's defensive line.

Vet70
08-10-2018, 12:45 AM
Dunno... that's bigger than NDSU's defensive line.

Actually, (assuming my calculations are correct) although there are no 300 pounders the Bison two deep averages 263 as well. The big difference would hopefully be their lack of experience.

EC8CH
08-10-2018, 01:06 AM
I went over to Cal Poly and looked at their roster.

I tried going over to Cal Poly too but I couldn't get in, their darn acceptance rate is too low.

Vet70
08-10-2018, 01:15 AM
I tried going over to Cal Poly too but I couldn't get in, their darn acceptance rate is too low.

You obviously need to be smarter.

HerdBot
08-10-2018, 01:43 AM
Some good content on The Insiders and Brakedown today from Bison 1660. Interviews from Matt Entz, Easton Stick, Menard, Steidl, Bruce Anderson, and more

The Insiders full show
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-insiders-august-9-2018

The Brakedown full show
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-brakedown-august-9-full-show

HerdBot
08-11-2018, 01:13 AM
Some great guests on The Insiders and The Brakedown today on Bison 1660.

Klieman, Messingham, Goeser, Klanderman, Dillon Radunz, Wimbush, Volson, and more

THE INSIDERS m-f 11-1
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-insiders-august-10-2018

THE BRAKEDOWN m-f 4-6
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-brakedown-with-keith-brake-august-10-full-show

bison_by_blood
08-14-2018, 03:12 AM
No news is good news?

Christopher Moen
08-14-2018, 03:34 AM
No news is good news?

Just that they are working hard and staying hydrated.

HerdBot
08-14-2018, 03:38 AM
Tyler Roehl was on the Insiders today
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/bison-full-backs-and-tight-ends-coach-tyler-roehl-8-13-18

bison_by_blood
08-14-2018, 04:13 AM
Just that they are working hard and staying hydrated.

No joke these days on the hydration. That Maryland stuff is awful. I kinda wish all programs had the nutrition/conditioning staff we do, for the sake of players health. We are doing preventative medicine, while other institutions are acting likes it’s half a century ago and they don’t know any better.

17>1
08-15-2018, 03:16 PM
2 names I'm really excited about. Dillon Radunz and Michael Tutsie.

Radunz- With as deep of an offensive line group that we have right now, not only was he going to start/get a ton of snaps last year as a RFr, Dillon is the LT as a sophomore. The LT, arguably the most important position on the offensive line. You have Easton's back, that's some big time responsibility. Coach says he's the type of player that is a difference maker.

Tutsie- Hearing Coach talk about this young man gets me really excited to see him roaming around the secondary. On the 2 deep at SS, he'll be contributing a ton on special teams this year, and will be the starting SS next year. Think he could be one of the great ones.

Go Bison!

Professor Chaos
08-15-2018, 04:29 PM
Dom says both Seth Wilson and Christian Watson weren't practicing today. He said he would have a full update on his blog later today.

Watson just can't stay healthy it appears. Hopefully this is minor since he missed all of spring ball and there is opportunity and a need for someone to step up at WR where he seemed like one of the most likely candidates.

17>1
08-15-2018, 04:38 PM
Dom says both Seth Wilson and Christian Watson weren't practicing today. He said he would have a full update on his blog later today.

Watson just can't stay healthy it appears. Hopefully this is minor since he missed all of spring ball and there is opportunity and a need for someone to step up at WR where he seemed like one of the most likely candidates.

Dom had a feature on Watson today, indicated that he wasn't at 100%, maybe that's why he missed. Can't afford to lose depth at this position.

bison_by_blood
08-16-2018, 02:14 AM
Phoenix Sproles looked really explosive in the couple clips they showed. If he can handle the physicality, I’m thinking the kid plays more than 4 games.

89MTBISON
08-16-2018, 02:57 AM
Dom had a feature on Watson today, indicated that he wasn't at 100%, maybe that's why he missed. Can't afford to lose depth at this position.

Sounds like he's as bad as that loser Vraa. He couldn't stay on the field early on either. Where's my purple button?

bruinbison
08-16-2018, 11:32 AM
Dom says both Seth Wilson and Christian Watson weren't practicing today. He said he would have a full update on his blog later today.

Watson just can't stay healthy it appears. Hopefully this is minor since he missed all of spring ball and there is opportunity and a need for someone to step up at WR where he seemed like one of the most likely candidates.

Dom’s video on the sports showed Watson in a walking boot.
Said he would be in it 2 weeks, leaving his status for the Cal Poly game unknown.

Dom also had nice things to say yesterday about true freshmen WR’s Phoenix Sproles and DJ Stewart, so that may be where some WR depth comes from if the coaches decide they need it.

KSBisonFan
08-19-2018, 09:23 PM
GoBison roster now has player photos updated.

Nel360
08-20-2018, 01:26 AM
Anyone hear how the scrimmage went Saturday?. Any injuries this weekend?

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HerdBot
08-20-2018, 02:01 AM
Dimitri Williams is listed as a running back
Jayden Price is listed as a cornerback

bri-dog
08-20-2018, 02:54 AM
Going through and trying to get my rosters finished up so I can print next week. Some changes in addition to the ones already mentioned this weekend (mostly minor, and many were expected). Mostly the freshmen being assigned a particular position instead of the generic OL, DB, etc. But a couple notable ones:

Jaxon Brown from FS to LB
James Hendricks from SS back to FS
Jackson Enz from S to FS
Ben Hoggarth from RB to FS
Jaylaan Wimbush from CB to FS
James Kaczor from S to SS
Destin Talbert from DB to CB
Ross Kennelly from LB to LS
Nate Dirkes from OL to OT
Jacob Kubas from OL to OG
Collin Connor from OT to OG
Brendan Cook from DL to DT
Cody Mauch from TE to OT
Luke Bacon from OT to OG
Jalen Sundell from OL to OT
Joe Schreiber from OL to C
Bryan Nohava from OL to OG

I think I got them all...

EC8CH
08-20-2018, 03:03 AM
You must explain this!

Meant DeLuca, in that he comes from the same school and appears to be a LB more in the mold of a Beck.

Bison20
08-20-2018, 12:50 PM
Wonder y they have moved demitri to rb when we are loaded there and seem like a big question mark at wr. Especially since he is a senior. I'm thinking we could have multiple freshmen play at wr this year.

tony
08-20-2018, 01:21 PM
Meant DeLuca, in that he comes from the same school and appears to be a LB more in the mold of a Beck.

Ha! I thought it was some sort of obscure reference.

Bisonator98
08-20-2018, 01:24 PM
Wonder y they have moved demitri to rb when we are loaded there and seem like a big question mark at wr. Especially since he is a senior. I'm thinking we could have multiple freshmen play at wr this year.

Yeah that never made sense to me either.

BisonNation11
08-20-2018, 01:36 PM
Wonder y they have moved demitri to rb when we are loaded there and seem like a big question mark at wr. Especially since he is a senior. I'm thinking we could have multiple freshmen play at wr this year.

Maybe they feel he can be more of a weapon against a LB or safety once they split him out wide or on a route out of the backfield. Maybe he's a great blocker and can utilize him in the Delta formation. He has speed so getting the ball in his hands is something they should aim to do. Maybe he has a hard time beating a DB off the line, but once in space, he's electric. And perhaps, like has been stated on here before, they're actually going to RS Wilson this year and want another body back there that's played before. They have their reasons and I trust their decision is best for the individual and team.

wisco4
08-20-2018, 01:48 PM
Maybe they feel he can be more of a weapon against a LB or safety once they split him out wide or on a route out of the backfield. Maybe he's a great blocker and can utilize him in the Delta formation. He has speed so getting the ball in his hands is something they should aim to do. Maybe he has a hard time beating a DB off the line, but once in space, he's electric. And perhaps, like has been stated on here before, they're actually going to RS Wilson this year and want another body back there that's played before. They have their reasons and I trust their decision is best for the individual and team.

Dimitri has his redshirt available as well.

HerdBot
08-20-2018, 01:59 PM
Wonder y they have moved demitri to rb when we are loaded there and seem like a big question mark at wr. Especially since he is a senior. I'm thinking we could have multiple freshmen play at wr this year.

Because he is one of the best athletes on the team and can be used as a receiver out of the backfield which he has 3 years experience in. He also bulked up 10 lbs

BadlandsBison
08-20-2018, 02:28 PM
If DW was actually moved to RB my guess is that he won't play that position exclusively.

OrygunBison
08-20-2018, 03:14 PM
Maybe they feel he can be more of a weapon against a LB or safety once they split him out wide or on a route out of the backfield. Maybe he's a great blocker and can utilize him in the Delta formation. He has speed so getting the ball in his hands is something they should aim to do. Maybe he has a hard time beating a DB off the line, but once in space, he's electric. And perhaps, like has been stated on here before, they're actually going to RS Wilson this year and want another body back there that's played before. They have their reasons and I trust their decision is best for the individual and team.

Not sure that it is part of the equation but I agree that he's an absolutely fantastic blocker. My son plays wideout and I've had him watch a bunch of DW plays over the last couple of years. One of my favorite was the long Frazier run against Iowa where DW had a great block close in, then hustled and got in front of King 35 yards downfield and got him another 7+ yards. Amazing energy. I think that the only other WR that I can remember that could block as well was Trevor Gebhart. He too was fantastic.

Snowgoose
08-20-2018, 03:17 PM
Yeah that never made sense to me either.

I was wondering why they didn't make this move last year when we started losing backs before pulling Wilson's redshirt. In my opinion this is what should have been done.

EC8CH
08-20-2018, 04:28 PM
I was wondering why they didn't make this move last year when we started losing backs before pulling Wilson's redshirt. In my opinion this is what should have been done.

That does seem odd unless they didn't think they could get DW up to speed at RB last year during the season. This is definitely one of the most interesting roster moves this year, will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Professor Chaos
08-20-2018, 04:29 PM
Maybe they feel he can be more of a weapon against a LB or safety once they split him out wide or on a route out of the backfield. Maybe he's a great blocker and can utilize him in the Delta formation. He has speed so getting the ball in his hands is something they should aim to do. Maybe he has a hard time beating a DB off the line, but once in space, he's electric. And perhaps, like has been stated on here before, they're actually going to RS Wilson this year and want another body back there that's played before. They have their reasons and I trust their decision is best for the individual and team.
Yep, those were my guesses as well as to why they'd move him. I also think that he could carve out a Derrick Lang role as 3rd down back who's excellent in pass pro but can also slip out of the backfield and catch screens or be an outlet.

Vet70
08-20-2018, 04:36 PM
I was wondering why they didn't make this move last year when we started losing backs before pulling Wilson's redshirt. In my opinion this is what should have been done.

The question is would he have been able to match Wilson's 420 yards and a 5.8 average with limited playing time.

wagsabison
08-20-2018, 05:51 PM
Moving DW to RB last year might have been a difficult transition half way through the season vs a guy that's already playing the position.

17>1
08-20-2018, 06:12 PM
I was wondering why they didn't make this move last year when we started losing backs before pulling Wilson's redshirt. In my opinion this is what should have been done.

I remember hearing that Dimitri WAS taking reps in practice last season at RB, I don't think the idea to switch him over originated this year. This new rule with redshirts being allowed to play 4 games is a game changer as far as depth goes.

THEsocalledfan
08-20-2018, 07:17 PM
I remember hearing that Dimitri WAS taking reps in practice last season at RB, I don't think the idea to switch him over originated this year. This new rule with redshirts being allowed to play 4 games is a game changer as far as depth goes.

I wonder if Phoenix is going to lose his shirt......even with the 4 game rule.

Bisonator98
08-20-2018, 07:24 PM
IMO Dimitri will see just as much playing time at RB as he did at WR.......very little

gumby013
08-20-2018, 07:26 PM
I wonder if Phoenix is going to lose his shirt......even with the 4 game rule.

Can always have it at the ready for another year.

EC8CH
08-20-2018, 10:59 PM
I wonder if Phoenix is going to lose his shirt......even with the 4 game rule.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a redshirt lost at WR this year. If not him then someone else.

phxbison
08-21-2018, 02:49 PM
Did Klieman hold a press conference yesterday ?

Professor Chaos
08-21-2018, 03:09 PM
Did Klieman hold a press conference yesterday ?
Negative. Usually they're up on the NDSUAthletics YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/NDSUAthletics/videos?disable_polymer=1) within a few hours. The only formal press conference he's had so far during fall camp was on 8/8. I'd assume next week he'll start with his usual Monday pressers since it'll be a game week. We'll also get a peek at what has changed from the initial fall camp depth chart (https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/1027259646225068032).

phxbison
08-21-2018, 04:02 PM
Thanks Prof.

bruinbison
08-21-2018, 04:06 PM
Did Klieman hold a press conference yesterday ?

Dom visited with Coach Klieman by phone yesterday and wrote this blog:

http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/2018-fall-camp-wraps-up-2/



......Two freshmen have likely played their way onto special teams, strong safety James Kaczor from St. Cloud and linebacker Jasir Cox......

......the other two captain selections since they were both former walk-ons, Aaron Steidl and Levi Jordheim......


Great note on Steidl & Jordheim - 2 of the 6 Team Captains were former walk-ons - shows just how important that walk-on program is!

wagsabison
08-21-2018, 04:28 PM
Did Klieman hold a press conference yesterday ?

Sounds like Monday next week is the next one.

HerdBot
08-21-2018, 05:39 PM
Did Klieman hold a press conference yesterday ?


Sounds like Monday next week is the next one.

Its aired live on Bison 1660 every Monday at 230

bri-dog
08-22-2018, 05:22 PM
Roster update: Michael Kelly, a Redshirt Freshman DT from Oakes, is no longer on the roster...

HerdBot
08-22-2018, 10:02 PM
Roster update: Michael Kelly, a Redshirt Freshman DT from Oakes, is no longer on the roster...

Looking at the depth chart, that was an up hill battle. I always root for the in state players.

bri-dog
08-28-2018, 06:08 PM
Punter Mason Schwerzler (#33) finally added to the roster today. Maybe clearinghouse issues or something? There's always gotta be one or two after I've already got my rosters done... :ranting:

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?39145-2018-Verbal-Mason-Schwerzler&highlight=schwerzler

noryan34
09-03-2018, 06:26 PM
How about Mercadel knocking the ball out of Babicz's arms and subsequently tossing him! Guy might have some pure Greco-Roman skills to him.

I didnt seen him (merc) play in the CP game. Did i miss it or something happen?

Vet70
09-03-2018, 06:35 PM
I didnt seen him (merc) play in the CP game. Did i miss it or something happen?

Don't know why but he didn't play.

CAS4127
09-03-2018, 06:49 PM
Don't know why but he didn't play.

Out for year with knee injury is what I’m hearing.


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HerdBot
09-03-2018, 07:10 PM
Out for year with knee injury is what I’m hearing.


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That's a big loss at a thin position. I would imagine Jasir Cox and Stumpf will play the whole season

CAS4127
09-03-2018, 07:19 PM
That's a big loss at a thin position. I would imagine Jasir Cox and Stumpf will play the whole season

Hopefully I’m wrong.


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EC8CH
09-03-2018, 07:23 PM
The younger Cox played as well. Not sure if related to Merc's injury.