Week 4 Polls

[NDSUstudent]

Six MVFC teams in the AGS top 10....Seven in the top 25!

AGS Poll Results - Week 4 - 09/25/2017
1 James Madison Dukes 1996 76 1
2 North Dakota State Bison 1916 4 2
3 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1808 3
4 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1733 4
5 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1627 5
6 Youngstown State Penguins 1540 6
7 South Dakota Coyotes 1390 10
8 Wofford Terriers 1355 8
9 Western Illinois Leathernecks 1345 14
10 Illinois State Redbirds 1258 12
11 The Citadel Bulldogs 1211 11
12 Central Arkansas Bears 1107 13
13 Eastern Washington Eagles 990 15
14 Villanova Wildcats 796 7
15 New Hampshire Wildcats 753 16
16 Albany Great Danes 740 24
17 Weber State Wildcats 719 20
18 North Carolina A&T Aggies 691 18
19 Richmond Spiders 558 9
20 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 533 28
21 Elon Phoenix 509 32
22 Stony Brook Seawolves 367 26
23 Montana State Bobcats 147 NR
24 Western Carolina Catamounts 139 NR
25 Southern Illinois Salukis 104 31

ORV:
26 Samford Bulldogs 93 17
27T Maine Black Bears 67 27
27T William & Mary Tribe 67 33
29 Tennessee State Tigers 62 21
30 Chattanooga Mocs 47 35
31 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 41 38
32 Grambling State Tigers 39 39
33 Princeton Tigers 34 37
34 McNeese State Cowboys 33 NR
35 Holy Cross Crusaders 32 23
36 Pennsylvania Quakers 25 NR
38T Nicholls State Colonels 19 22
38T North Dakota Fighting Hawks 19 19
39 Yale Bulldogs 15 NR
40 Northern Iowa Panthers 13 34

Most Significant Win: Elon Phoenix
Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders

STATS FCS Poll
1 James Madison (4-0) 4041 (154) 1
2 North Dakota State (3-0) 3875 (5) 2
3 Sam Houston State (3-0) 3679 (2) 3
4 South Dakota State (3-0) 3564 (1) 4
5 Jacksonville State (2-1) 3401 5
6 Youngstown State (2-1) 3226 6
7 Wofford (3-0) 2945 9
8 Citadel (3-0) 2661 10
9 Eastern Washington (2-2) 2519 11
10 South Dakota (3-0) 2414 13
11 Central Arkansas (2-1) 2314 12
12 Illinois State (3-0) 2124 14
13 Western Illinois (3-0) 1890 19
14 Villanova (2-2) 1883 7
15 New Hampshire (3-1) 1734 15
16 Richmond (2-2) 1671 8
17 North Carolina A&T (4-0) 1268 21
18 UT Martin (3-1) 1098 24
19 Albany (3-1) 1014 NR
20 Weber State (3-1) 928 23
21 Grambling State (2-1) 829 22
22 Liberty (3-1) 805 16
23 Elon (3-1) 743 NR
24 Tennessee State (3-1) 355 20
25 Samford (2-2) 299 18

Others: Stony Brook (220) , North Dakota (218) , Western Carolina (189) , Charleston Southern (116) ,Chattanooga (107) , UNI (75) , North Carolina Central (72) , Princeton (55) , Montana (38) , Holy Cross(34) , Nicholls (30) , Howard (29) , Montana State (28) , Penn (27) , McNeese (24) , Dartmouth (17) ,Delaware (17) , Kennesaw State (15) , Southern Illinois (14) , Harvard (10) , William & Mary (6) , Saint Francis U (6) , Yale (4) , Duquesne (4) , Colgate (4) , Alcorn State (4) , Monmouth (3) , Sacramento State(2) , Northern Arizona (1) , Eastern Kentucky (1)

[tjbison]

the fact that UNI, UND and Montana are in the ORV is a puzzle

Montana and UNI have history, UND...WTF

[Scooter1]

Explain how UND has 218 points and Montana St 28?

Jesus, that poll is a joke.

[EC8CH]

Explain how UND has 218 points and Montana St 28?


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[EC8CH]

Explain how UND has 218 points and Montana St 28?


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[Mr Meaty]

Explain how UND has 218 points and Montana St 28?

Jesus, that poll is a joke.

They are the flagship and have hockey

[BisonTeacher]

They are the flagship and have hockey

Thank you. That made me go back and rewatch the video. Good start to the morning.

[scottietohottie]

Explain how UND has 218 points and Montana St 28?

Jesus, that poll is a joke.

Doug Burgums halftime speech was worth 189 points.

[THEsocalledfan]

Is SIU completely flying under the radar? Top tier MVFC team, no. FCS top 25, my God yes. Note, AGS has them in.....

[eman]

Explain how UND has 218 points and Montana St 28?

Jesus, that poll is a joke.

The shithawks are who we thought they were! Montana state is getting screwed! I think there is a considerable gap after number 2!

[OatmealWicket92]

6 Valley teams in top 10. wonder what the record for most teams from 1 conf. in the top 10 is.

[Da Bison]

The shithawks are who we thought they were! Montana state is getting screwed! I think there is a considerable gap after number 2!

Why do people keep bringing up Joel H.?

[BisManBison]

They are the flagship and have hockey

And of course they are pissed off and lifting weights....so they have that going for them...which is nice.

[bruinbison]

6 Valley teams in top 10. wonder what the record for most teams from 1 conf. in the top 10 is.

Don't know on that poll, but the folks at USD said this is the 3rd time that 5 MVFC teams were in the top 10. (Coaches Poll)

[thebootfitter]

6 Valley teams in top 10. wonder what the record for most teams from 1 conf. in the top 10 is.
I'm thinking this has to be the record in the history of FCS. Maybe, just maybe the CAA (or predecessor conference name) had five or six at some point, but I doubt it. That's just crazy!

Don't expect it to last as the Valley starts beating each other up. Not that there SHOULDN'T be six teams in the top ten even with a couple losses, but not all Valley teams are going to escape the grind with one or no losses. I would love to see a "last-in" USD travel to a seeded Big Sky, CAA, or Southland team and wallop 'em.

In the past, the Valley teams have not always been as strong as the regular season would suggest, though they still have a pretty solid playoff record collectively. I suspect this is one year where a middle of the pack Valley team could probably win any other conference outside of the CAA. But... it's still early. There are many variables which inevitably leads to many surprises.

[IzzyFlexion]

6 out of 10 and one of them isn't UNI. A few years ago, I would never have believed a future that included these facts. <NO SMACK>

[Professor Chaos]

6 out of 10 and one of them isn't UNI. A few years ago, I would never have believed a future that included these facts. <NO SMACK>
Between 1981 and 2011 UNI won (or shared) 19 conference titles in 31 years. Their longest streak without a title in that span was 5 years (1996 to 2001). They're currently working on a 6 year streak without a conference title...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sFji7bKikXo/UXS9XhKFibI/AAAAAAAAL1w/IiwDZtuN5bI/s1600/heywhahappened.png

[Bison 4 Life]

How in the world is Farley still hanging on? He doesn't produce for them anymore.

[Christopher Moen]

How in the world is Farley still hanging on? He doesn't produce for them anymore.

UNI is a financial mess. Football is just a little important to them compared to basketball.

[X-Factor]

Between 1981 and 2011 UNI won (or shared) 19 conference titles in 31 years. Their longest streak without a title in that span was 5 years (1996 to 2001). They're currently working on a 6 year streak without a conference title...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sFji7bKikXo/UXS9XhKFibI/AAAAAAAAL1w/IiwDZtuN5bI/s1600/heywhahappened.png

They will be breaking records soon.
The recruiting landscape has changed, and not in UNI's favor. Who goes to UNI if they have a competing NDSU offer? And if they don't have an NDSU offer then they have an SDSU, USD offer and go there. Academic specialties and hometown might be the only exceptions. COA could change things for them, but that is years away. The damage you do to a program in the mean time could be lasting.

[Tony Almeida]

Southern Illinois ruining the party for the rest of the Valley. You want to hang with the big boys...then you bring the sauce and try to keep up!

[Professor Chaos]

Southern Illinois ruining the party for the rest of the Valley. You want to hang with the big boys...then you bring the sauce and try to keep up!
That's Brewster-esque!

[TinyBisonFan]

Does anyone think that a team will go undefeated through the conference schedule this season?

I don't see any team, including NDSU, getting through the grind unscathed. I think our loss comes either @YSU or @SDSU. Even if we get those wins, the MVC is too strong this season for me to see anyone run the table. Thinking we share a conference title again this season, but ride a #1 or #2 seed into the playoffs, depending on how JMU's season fairs (should roll through the CAA).

[BlueBisonRock]

Does anyone think that a team will go undefeated through the conference schedule this season?

I don't see any team, including NDSU, getting through the grind unscathed. I think our loss comes either @YSU or @SDSU. Even if we get those wins, the MVC is too strong this season for me to see anyone run the table. Thinking we share a conference title again this season, but ride a #1 or #2 seed into the playoffs, depending on how JMU's season fairs (should roll through the CAA).

Ohh, a dare! Yes. I can see NDSU going undefeated through the conference schedule.

[THEsocalledfan]

Southern Illinois ruining the party for the rest of the Valley. You want to hang with the big boys...then you bring the sauce and try to keep up!

Mark it down: SIU crushes UNI to go 3-1. (I watched the Memphis game; they are decent which is way better than UNI.)

[EndZoneQB]

They will be breaking records soon.
The recruiting landscape has changed, and not in UNI's favor. Who goes to UNI if they have a competing NDSU offer? And if they don't have an NDSU offer then they have an SDSU, USD offer and go there. Academic specialties and hometown might be the only exceptions. COA could change things for them, but that is years away. The damage you do to a program in the mean time could be lasting.

Christian Jegen.

[SoCalBison]

Ohh, a dare! Yes. I can see NDSU going undefeated through the conference schedule.

I'll have what he's having!

[Christopher Moen]

I'll have what he's having!

Sorry, I drank it all already before the season started. Bison will destroy everything in their path towards another Title.


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[23Bison]

I say the Bison take em all to the number 6 dance!!! Go undefeated!!! Go Bison!!!

Can I get a. Hurrumff???

[Bison 4 Life]

Yeah, it's not hard to see the Bison going undefeated.

Neither Ytown or SDSU have shown world beating ability. We'll know a little more this weekend.

It's also not hard to see the Bison stubbing their toe.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

Does anyone think that a team will go undefeated through the conference schedule this season?

I don't see any team, including NDSU, getting through the grind unscathed. I think our loss comes either @YSU or @SDSU. Even if we get those wins, the MVC is too strong this season for me to see anyone run the table. Thinking we share a conference title again this season, but ride a #1 or #2 seed into the playoffs, depending on how JMU's season fairs (should roll through the CAA).

Have you seen JMU's schedule? How many ranked teams do they play...

They will go undefeated into the playoffs.

[Professor Chaos]

Have you seen JMU's schedule? How many ranked teams do they play...

They will go undefeated into the playoffs.
The CAA is still a big unknown for me. Outside of JMU it looks like there's some good teams but no other great teams. To start the year it seemed like Nova, Richmond, and UNH would be able to at least challenge JMU and then all those teams lost to someone they had no business losing to. Now, because of those upsets, there's teams like Albany and Elon that have snuck into the rankings also.

Although I have a feeling, and maybe it's just wishful thinking, that JMU will slip up and lose a game this year just based on the fact that they've got a target on their backs like they've never had before. Hell, Maine hung right with them last week and they're about 8th in the CAA if you look at most rankings this week.

[bisonaudit]

Maine seems like their kryptonite for whatever reason they cause JMU problems.

[EC8CH]

Maine seems like their kryptonite for whatever reason they cause JMU problems.

They've already beat Maine this year.

Edit: Nevermind... read the post above yours.

It would surprise me if JMU didn't go undefeated in the regular season this year.

[Professor Chaos]

They've already beat Maine this year.

Edit: Nevermind... read the post above yours.

It would surprise me if JMU didn't go undefeated in the regular season this year.
Here's an interesting conundrum that really got JMU/CAA fans' panties in a bunch over on AGS. Say one of the currently undefeated MVFC teams (NDSU, SDSU, WIU, USD, or Illinois St) runs the table in the MVFC and also finishes 11-0 along with JMU. Who is the #1 seed?

It's pretty tough for you to bump back an undefeated defending national champion but if they solely look at this year (which is all they're supposed to do) it would be just as hard to bump down a team that ran the table in the MVFC this year.

You could imagine what side of that argument the CAA/JMU fans were on but they refused to even admit that it would be a legit question/debate. I absolutely think it would.

[wagsabison]

Does it really matter? They both get home field through out and if both are that good they will settle it in Frisco

Kind of depends on how it shakes out but the #1 seed should theoretically get the easier bracket.

[Da_Bison]

Here's an interesting conundrum that really got JMU/CAA fans' panties in a bunch over on AGS. Say one of the currently undefeated MVFC teams (NDSU, SDSU, WIU, USD, or Illinois St) runs the table in the MVFC and also finishes 11-0 along with JMU. Who is the #1 seed?

It's pretty tough for you to bump back an undefeated defending national champion but if they solely look at this year (which is all they're supposed to do) it would be just as hard to bump down a team that ran the table in the MVFC this year.

You could imagine what side of that argument the CAA/JMU fans were on but they refused to even admit that it would be a legit question/debate. I absolutely think it would.

Does it really matter? They both get home field through out and if they’re both that good it will be settled in Frisco

[Da_Bison]

True, but if they really are the #1 team either side of the bracket shouldn’t be an issue

[Professor Chaos]

Does it really matter? They both get home field through out and if they’re both that good it will be settled in Frisco
Haha, well rankings don't matter either but it sure seems to get people up into a tizzy. I get your point though.

[TinyBisonFan]

Here's an interesting conundrum that really got JMU/CAA fans' panties in a bunch over on AGS. Say one of the currently undefeated MVFC teams (NDSU, SDSU, WIU, USD, or Illinois St) runs the table in the MVFC and also finishes 11-0 along with JMU. Who is the #1 seed?

It's pretty tough for you to bump back an undefeated defending national champion but if they solely look at this year (which is all they're supposed to do) it would be just as hard to bump down a team that ran the table in the MVFC this year.

You could imagine what side of that argument the CAA/JMU fans were on but they refused to even admit that it would be a legit question/debate. I absolutely think it would.

I agree with you on this. IF someone were able to run the table in the MVC, then that team would have run through a much more difficult schedule and the splits on first place votes would be interesting. I think the computers would put the undefeated MVC winner ahead of JMU, but not sure if the voters would. It will be interesting to see. Definitely looking forward to the SDSU/YSU game this weekend after we watch the Bison put a beating on the Bears.

[THEsocalledfan]

I agree with you on this. IF someone were able to run the table in the MVC, then that team would have run through a much more difficult schedule and the splits on first place votes would be interesting. I think the computers would put the undefeated MVC winner ahead of JMU, but not sure if the voters would. It will be interesting to see. Definitely looking forward to the SDSU/YSU game this weekend after we watch the Bison put a beating on the Bears.

Don't tell them NDSU has been ahead of JMU in Sagarin all year; may just melt their brains to know computer models favor NDSU.

[CaBisonFan]

James Madison's schedule is really soft. They're going to run the table in their conference.

[EC8CH]

James Madison's schedule is really soft. They're going to run the table in their conference.

They also had a soft FBS opponent this year, but give them credit for taking care of business when they needed to. With NDSU's relatively weak out of conference schedule this year, I would think it would be perfectly reasonable to give JMU the #1 seed if both teams are undefeated. No doubt MVFC is much tougher throughout, but undefeated returning champs with an FBS win... automatic #1 seed in my book.

[bisonaudit]

James Madison's schedule is really soft. They're going to run the table in their conference.

Wow, very favorable. Granted, the CAA is a pretty good conference but taking them in order of current Sagarin rating (number in "()" indicated where they'd rank in an 11 team MVFC):

1) JMU 69.98 (2)
2) home Villanova w/ JMU coming off a bye 56.05 (8) -19.0
3) home Richmond 54.32 (9) -18.0
4) don't play Stony Brook 52.32 (9)
5) don't play Albany-NY 51.16 (9)
6) home New Hampshire 50.71 (9) -21.5
7) away William & Mary 49.67 (9) -18.0
8) home Maine already a won 49.52 (9)
9) away Delaware 48.86 (9) -16.0 Del coming off a bye
10) away Elon 43.70 (9) -24.0
11) don't play Towson 40.50 (10)
12) away Rhode Island 37.39 (10) -30.0

About 60/40 in favor of them running that table.

[Da Bison]

True, but if they really are the #1 team either side of the bracket shouldn’t be an issueF'n impostors!

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[MNLonghorn10]

Wow, very favorable. Granted, the CAA is a pretty good conference but taking them in order of current Sagarin rating (number in "()" indicated where they'd rank in an 11 team MVFC):

1) JMU 69.98 (2)
2) home Villanova w/ JMU coming off a bye 56.05 (8) -19.0
3) home Richmond 54.32 (9) -18.0
4) don't play Stony Brook 52.32 (9)
5) don't play Albany-NY 51.16 (9)
6) home New Hampshire 50.71 (9) -21.5
7) away William & Mary 49.67 (9) -18.0
8) home Maine already a won 49.52 (9)
9) away Delaware 48.86 (9) -16.0 Del coming off a bye
10) away Elon 43.70 (9) -24.0
11) don't play Towson 40.50 (10)
12) away Rhode Island 37.39 (10) -30.0

About 60/40 in favor of them running that table.Lmao @ those teams

[MrSnuffleupagus]

James Madison's schedule is really soft. They're going to run the table in their conference.

Bingo.

https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=3611&s=295489

https://imgur.com/a/6PGwX

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lol

[bisonaudit]

Bingo.

https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=3611&s=295489

https://imgur.com/a/6PGwX

https://thumbs.imgbox.com/aa/d0/PinUnRLA_t.jpg (http://imgbox.com/PinUnRLA)



lol

Massey translates to more like 65/35 they run the table.