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tony
09-12-2017, 12:11 PM
Really early in the season for team stats but, just for fun):

#2 Total Offense: 609.5 ypg (#1 Western Carolina: 630 ypg)
#1 Rushing Offense: 436.5 ypg
#1 Scoring Offense: 56.0 ppg (tied with the Coyotes)
#12 Passing Efficiency (USD and SDSU are ahead)
#1 Scoring Offense: 56.0 ppg (tied with USD)
#2 Total Defense: 131 ypc (#1 Illinois State: 41.0 ypg)
#3 Rushing Defense: 19.5 ypg (Southern Illinois and Illinois State are #1 and #2, WIU is #4)
#3 Passing Yards Allowed: 111.5 ypg (Illinois State is #1 at 41.0 ypg)
#2 Passing Eff. Defense: #2 57.19 (#1 Illinois State 41.06)
#6 Scoring Defense: #6 (10.0) (#1 Illinois State 0)
#1 First Downs (62)
#2 First Down Allowed: 14 (#1 Illinois State: 3)
#1 Time of Possession: 38:36

Four MVFC teams in the top 5 in Rushing Defense
NDSU is near the bottom in penalty stats and not very good in net punting (only 3 punts though which is #1)

FrozenTech
09-12-2017, 01:43 PM
Its worth noting that ISU(R) has only played one game so far which I think is skewing thier stats for the moment, since they pretty much crushed butler. Will be interesting to see how things go, going forward.

Professor Chaos
09-12-2017, 01:48 PM
NDSU's schedule is ridiculously back loaded so by the time they get through the ISUb game (on 10/7) it'll probably be pretty eye popping to see those national ranks.

Then shit gets real: @YSU, WIU, UNI, @SDSU, USD, and @ISUr in 6 consecutive weeks.

Professor Chaos
09-12-2017, 01:48 PM
NDSU's schedule is ridiculously back loaded so by the time they get through the ISUb game (on 10/7) it'll probably be pretty eye popping to see those national ranks.

Then shit gets real: @YSU, WIU, UNI, @SDSU, USD, and @ISUr in 6 consecutive weeks.

Bison 4 Life
09-12-2017, 01:49 PM
NDSU's schedule is ridiculously back loaded so by the time they get through the ISUb game (on 10/7) it'll probably be pretty eye popping to see those national ranks.

Then shit gets real: @YSU, WIU, UNI, @SDSU, USD, and @ISUr in 6 consecutive weeks.

I was just saying that last night. When they get to YSU they should be running pretty smoothly.

tony
09-18-2017, 01:51 PM
Stats as of 9/16 games:

Really early in the season for team stats but, just for fun):

#1 Total Offense: 609.5 ypg (Up from #2)
#1 Rushing Offense: 436.5 ypg
#1 Scoring Offense: 56.0 ppg (tied with Yale now instead of the Coyotes)
#18 Passing Efficiency (down from #12)
#3 Total Defense: 131 ypc (down from #2, #1 Illinois State: 79.0 ypg)
#3 Rushing Defense: 19.5 ypg (Dartmouth #1, Illinois State is #2, WIU is #4)
#4 Passing Yards Allowed: 111.5 ypg (down from #3, Illinois State is #1 at 72.0 ypg, YSU #3 at 111ypg)
#2 Passing Eff. Defense: #1 57.18 (Up from #2)
#5 Scoring Defense: #6 (10.0) (Up from #5, #1 Illinois State 6.5)
#24 First Downs (62) Down from #1 but, of course, everybody above NDSU has played 3 games, not 2.
#3 First Down Allowed: 14 (down from #2, #1 Dartmouth: 7 - but they've only played 1 game)
#1 Time of Possession: 38:36 (WIU is #2)

Bisonator98
09-18-2017, 02:46 PM
#1 in selling out other peoples stadiums for Bison games.:biggrin:

tony
09-25-2017, 12:08 PM
#7 Total Offense: 555 ypg (down from #2)
#2 Rushing Offense: 377.7 ypg (down from #1)
#1 Scoring Offense: 56.0 ppg
#18 Passing Efficiency (unchanged)
#1 Total Defense: 106.3 ypc (up from #3)
#1 Rushing Defense: 27.7 ypg (up from #3)
#1 Passing Yards Allowed: 78.7 ypg (up from #4)
#1 Passing Eff. Defense: 43.66 (Up from #2)
#1 Scoring Defense: 6.7 (Up from #5)
#20 First Downs: 83 (Up from #24)
#1 First Down Allowed: 18 (up from #3)
#1 Time of Possession: 38:51

No way NDSU keeps all these #1 rankings now that the real season is beginning, but as long as we hold on that #1 scoring defense, we should be OK. :)

bisonaudit
09-25-2017, 12:30 PM
7th weakest schedule to date according to Sagarin so, yeah, don’t expect to hang on to those positions.

imabison
09-25-2017, 01:50 PM
#7 Total Offense: 555 ypg (down from #2)
#2 Rushing Offense: 377.7 ypg (down from #1)
#1 Scoring Offense: 56.0 ppg
#18 Passing Efficiency (unchanged)
#1 Total Defense: 106.3 ypc (up from #3)
#1 Rushing Defense: 27.7 ypg (up from #3)
#1 Passing Yards Allowed: 78.7 ypg (up from #4)
#1 Passing Eff. Defense: 43.66 (Up from #2)
#1 Scoring Defense: 6.7 (Up from #5)
#20 First Downs: 83 (Up from #24)
#1 First Down Allowed: 18 (up from #3)
#1 Time of Possession: 38:51

No way NDSU keeps all these #1 rankings now that the real season is beginning, but as long as we hold on that #1 scoring defense, we should be OK. :)

This is purple but if coach Klieman did not want to get reps for all the 2 3 and 4 in some capacity NDSU easiliy could be # 1 in a lot of those categories.

BisManBison
09-25-2017, 02:51 PM
This is purple but if coach Klieman did not want to get reps for all the 2 3 and 4 in some capacity NDSU easiliy could be # 1 in all of those categories.

FIFY :biggrin:

I think coach learned last year the value of having OOC games where you get lots kids reps to build depth. Was the Saturday game all that much fun as a fan? No, but getting those 2's and 3's valuable game reps will pay dividends as we progress through the meat grinder of the MVFC.

bruinbison
09-25-2017, 03:23 PM
The FCS national polls are going to be interesting this week.
7 top 25 teams lost, so the Missouri Valley Football Conference should be at peak power.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20170924002709543614404



While Top 25 voters will have to sort through a lot of teams in the No. 15-30 mix to get a comfortable order for the rankings, they may simply look to the Missouri Valley Football Conference to fill out the Top 10. Monday's new rankings may include five, maybe six Valley teams. Second-ranked North Dakota State, No. 4 South Dakota State and No. 6 Youngstown State will likely hold serve, and South Dakota, Illinois State and Western Illinois (off a rout at FBS Coastal Carolina) are in the mix for the Top 10.



So with this week's poll, assuming Western Illinois makes the top-10, the 2017 NDSU schedule of 11 games will include 6 of those games being against teams that were ranked in the FCS top-10 at this point of the season. Eastern Washington is still at #11 after their come-from-behind victory over the Griz in Missoula, but started the season in the top-10.

bruinbison
09-25-2017, 07:30 PM
Well, STATS did not quite get all the MVFC teams into the top 10.

2 - NDSU
4 - SDSU
6 - YSU
10 - USD
12 - Illinois State
13 - Western Illinois

EC8CH
09-25-2017, 07:57 PM
Western should be higher. They get no respect.

bruinbison
09-26-2017, 01:12 AM
Western should be higher. They get no respect.

Agree, well, they get the Bob Nielson reunion game this weekend against the Coyotes. Win against their former Head Coach, whose USD is at #10, and they'll get in for sure next week.

tony
10-02-2017, 05:58 PM
#5 Total Offense: 524.8 ypg (up from #7)
#1 Rushing Offense: 336.8 ypg (up from #2)
#1 Scoring Offense: 51.5 ppg
#11 Passing Efficiency: 166.99 (up from #18)
#1 Total Defense: 138.3 ypg
#1 Rushing Defense: 50.0 ypg
#1 Passing Yards Allowed: 88.3 ypg
#1 Passing Eff. Defense: 56.79
#1 Scoring Defense: 7.8 ppg
#20 First Downs: 104
#1 First Down Allowed: 33
#2 Time of Possession: 35:36 (down from #1)

Despite starting conference play, NDSU moved up in the rankings on 3 categories versus going down in only 1.

TinyBisonFan
10-03-2017, 11:42 PM
Interesting. That weird first half where we were dominated in TOP was unique from what we typically see. Certainly made up for a lot of that in the second half though.

And it does help that we played the worst team in the conference to start, and now we play the second worst team in the conference this weekend so that should help as a stats booster as well.

Hammerhead
10-04-2017, 12:54 AM
NDSU 3rd in 3rd down conversion percentage behind YSU and SDSU

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/699

tony
10-08-2017, 04:17 PM
#5 Total Offense: 509.4 ypg
#1 Rushing Offense: 318.6 ypg (tied with Jacksonville State)
#1 Scoring Offense: 51.6 ppg
#4 Passing Efficiency: 172.46 (up from #11)
#1 Total Defense: 159.0 ypg
#7 Rushing Defense: 64.8 ypg (down from #1)
#1 Passing Yards Allowed: 94.2 ypg
#1 Passing Eff. Defense: 57.0
#1 Scoring Defense: 6.2 ppg
#15 First Downs: 128 (up from #20)
#1 First Down Allowed: 43
#1 Time of Possession: 35:53 (up from #2)

SoCalBison
10-08-2017, 04:24 PM
I'm impressed with the balance and depth on this year's team. We can win with passing, win with running, win with defense. We can win with when key players get hurt. While things could change, I really like the way this is setting up for the second half of the season and a playoff run.

tony
10-16-2017, 08:03 PM
As of Game 6
#5 Total Offense: 490.0 ypg
#2 Rushing Offense: 312.2 ypg (down from #1)
#1 Scoring Offense: 47.5 ppg
#10 Passing Efficiency: 165.55 (down from #4)
#1 Total Defense: 188.8 ypg
#8 Rushing Defense: 79.0 ypg (down from #7)
#1 Passing Yards Allowed: 109.8 ypg
#2 Passing Eff. Defense: 77.2 (down from #1)
#1 Scoring Defense: 9.2 ppg
#12 First Downs: 149 (up from #15)
#1 First Down Allowed: 59
#5 Time of Possession: 34:25 (down from #1)

Hammerhead
10-17-2017, 01:02 PM
#1 in scoring offense and #1 in scoring defense. How often does that happen? I don't expect us to stay at the top of each category for long as we face stronger opponents.

semobison
10-17-2017, 02:35 PM
In conference only stats we are:
1st in scoring defense and total defense.
3rd in scoring offense and total offense.

IzzyFlexion
10-17-2017, 02:43 PM
Tough to break given the remaining schedule, but the 9.2 ppg allowed is just over 2 ppg ahead of the 2013 squad's season average of 11.3.

A shut out this weekend would lower the number to 7.9 ppg.

stevdock
10-17-2017, 06:42 PM
I know we are doing a lot of really cool things both offensively and defensively and as was stated these will change as our schedule gets much more difficult. I just hope this doesn't turn into a Sam Houston State type of thread because right now it kind of does. Oh wait you put defense in there too ;)

tony
02-14-2018, 09:19 PM
Final standings:

#4 Total Offense: 448.9 ypg
#4 Rushing Offense: 272.2 ypg
#2 Scoring Offense: 38.7 ppg (Sam Houston was #1 with 43.3)
#4 Passing Efficiency: 163.15
#1 Total Defense: 237.4 ypg
#6 Rushing Defense: 89.5 ypg
#3 Passing Yards Allowed: 147.9 ypg
#2 Passing Eff. Defense: 93.12
#2 Scoring Defense: 11.6 ppg (James Madison was #1 with 11.2)
#5 Time of Possession: 33:43

NDSU scored 581 and opponents scored 174. That's tied for the most points NDSU has scored in a season with 2013.

Mr Meaty
02-14-2018, 10:50 PM
Final standings:

#4 Total Offense: 448.9 ypg
#4 Rushing Offense: 272.2 ypg
#2 Scoring Offense: 38.7 ppg (Sam Houston was #1 with 43.3)
#4 Passing Efficiency: 163.15
#1 Total Defense: 237.4 ypg
#6 Rushing Defense: 89.5 ypg
#3 Passing Yards Allowed: 147.9 ypg
#2 Passing Eff. Defense: 93.12
#2 Scoring Defense: 11.6 ppg (James Madison was #1 with 11.2)
#5 Time of Possession: 33:43

NDSU scored 581 and opponents scored 174. That's tied for the most points NDSU has scored in a season with 2013.

Well we will have to see if Barney still thinks we are "slipping".

Christopher Moen
02-14-2018, 10:56 PM
Well we will have to see if Barney still thinks we are "slipping".

The Bison are slipping forward. So, maybe he's right?

WeAreThePride
02-15-2018, 02:57 AM
Final standings:

#4 Total Offense: 448.9 ypg
#4 Rushing Offense: 272.2 ypg
#2 Scoring Offense: 38.7 ppg (Sam Houston was #1 with 43.3)
#4 Passing Efficiency: 163.15
#1 Total Defense: 237.4 ypg
#6 Rushing Defense: 89.5 ypg
#3 Passing Yards Allowed: 147.9 ypg
#2 Passing Eff. Defense: 93.12
#2 Scoring Defense: 11.6 ppg (James Madison was #1 with 11.2)
#5 Time of Possession: 33:43

NDSU scored 581 and opponents scored 174. That's tied for the most points NDSU has scored in a season with 2013.

I don't care where you're from. That's a DAMN good team. Our worst category there is rushing defense. Considering the nature of the MVFC, I think there is no doubt who is the best team in the country. That beautiful trophy just proves it.

tony
02-15-2018, 01:40 PM
I don't care where you're from. That's a DAMN good team. Our worst category there is rushing defense. Considering the nature of the MVFC, I think there is no doubt who is the best team in the country. That beautiful trophy just proves it.

Source for all the statistics: https://stats.ncaa.org/teams/113723

NDSU is top 25 in everything except:

Passing Yards Per Game: 92nd
Net Punting: 80th
Punt Returns: 85th

WeAreThePride
02-15-2018, 02:08 PM
Source for all the statistics: https://stats.ncaa.org/teams/113723

NDSU is top 25 in everything except:

Passing Yards Per Game: 92nd
Net Punting: 80th
Punt Returns: 85th

Is there a stat for field goal kicking? I have to believe this season we were pretty poor. That, combined with the punting and returns, would support the idea that our special teams isn't quite as good as it's been in years past. I'm surprised by the passing yards being 92nd. I suppose that comes from never needing to pass to come from behind. Does anyone have a stat for 'minutes of games spent in a point deficit'? I can't imagine it's more than 10-15 minutes the whole season. Were we ever behind in the second half this year?

wagsabison
02-15-2018, 02:21 PM
Is there a stat for field goal kicking? I have to believe this season we were pretty poor. That, combined with the punting and returns, would support the idea that our special teams isn't quite as good as it's been in years past. I'm surprised by the passing yards being 92nd. I suppose that comes from never needing to pass to come from behind. Does anyone have a stat for 'minutes of games spent in a point deficit'? I can't imagine it's more than 10-15 minutes the whole season. Were we ever behind in the second half this year?

Difficult to be #4 in rushing and anything close to that on the passing side for yardage too. Only so many yards to be gained in a game.

KNOW IT ALL
02-15-2018, 02:41 PM
Would be very interesting to see the Bison go to a four down offense anytime they cross the 50. consider punting if its 4th and 4 or more only. The few times they would give up the ball the defense would still have a long field behind them. I think a lot of games would be over at halftime.

tony
02-15-2018, 02:57 PM
Is there a stat for field goal kicking? I have to believe this season we were pretty poor. That, combined with the punting and returns, would support the idea that our special teams isn't quite as good as it's been in years past. I'm surprised by the passing yards being 92nd. I suppose that comes from never needing to pass to come from behind. Does anyone have a stat for 'minutes of games spent in a point deficit'? I can't imagine it's more than 10-15 minutes the whole season. Were we ever behind in the second half this year?

FG% is considered an individual stat rather than a team stat... Cam was 63rd at 62.5%

The passing yards being 92nd is not that surprising... NDSU didn't need to pass a lot. Easton was 5th in yards per completion at 15 ypc (they don't have a stat for yards per attempt but he'd probably in the top 5 there too given his outstanding passing efficiency.)

barnwintersportsengelstad
02-16-2018, 05:08 AM
The Bison are slipping forward. So, maybe he's right?

They more than slipped forward, they earned the Natty.

1st&TennBison
02-17-2018, 01:47 PM
Is there a stat for field goal kicking? I have to believe this season we were pretty poor. That, combined with the punting and returns, would support the idea that our special teams isn't quite as good as it's been in years past. I'm surprised by the passing yards being 92nd. I suppose that comes from never needing to pass to come from behind. Does anyone have a stat for 'minutes of games spent in a point deficit'? I can't imagine it's more than 10-15 minutes the whole season. Were we ever behind in the second half this year?

Well for sure we were in the SDSU game, can't lose a game and not be behind in the second half, lol.