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thebigund
08-03-2017, 03:38 AM
Just when you thought I forgot to perform the only task I was put on this God forsaken planet to do I finally got over NDSU's 6th consecutive national title and mustered up the gusto to limp my way through yet another attempt to teach you lot to not breathe with your mouths. Whew, inhale, through your nose. Anyway we enter this season ranked #5 by Craig Haley, a reward for last season's playoff dominance no doubt. NDSU comes in at #1 as any defending national champ should. Craig is so smart. It seems inevitable that the NCAA will match our teams up in the playoffs this year. It will be a game of epic proportions; a true heavyweight bout. It's not so much the David and Goliath that the last game was.... more like The Mountain vs The Hound or Tyrion Lannister vs syphilis.
Coaching:
HC: Bubbles is better get over it.
OC: Rudolph vs Polesuck was a true head to head smashfest of incompetence; the jet sweep into the near sideline vs the double reverse drive killer. Somehow that neanderthal dragged his knuckles down to the Hawkeye state in a bizarre twist where someone deserving a demotion actually got a huge promotion. We now have to deal with teh Messinghams Effects. Seriously though, what the fuck is that? Anyway Messingham's Revenge will definitely occur if you drink the tap water at the Fargo Loaf. In other words, this one is an explosive push followed by some vomit and maybe a shomit if you're lucky.
DC: Schmidty vs Entz? Apparently, according to Jeff and Dom, the other Jeff and something called Jorgie, Entz was handed the keys to a Ferrari for this season. The only way he screws this up is if he's been taking driving lessons from Caitlyn Jenner. Schmidty is the man, he was a better player than Entz and is a better coach.
Overall: teh FHawkers
Offense:
QB:Hockey Stick still looks like a 220 lb 12 year old boy but throws the ball about as well as a 14 year old girl. He can run though, so there's that. He hasn't lost many games but he's just not that good of a QB..... compared to Carson Wentz. My boy Heny VanDerDellen is now the best QB on campus. That's right. That's a hot take right there. Cole Davids is going to be the best 3rd string QB in the nation. BOOM DOUBLE HOT TAKE!
Keaton Studsrud can throw (http://forum.siouxsports.com/uploads/monthly_2017_08/Screenshot_20170801-000921.png.10c87b3de088c555b6c088553546e9a4.png) , he can run, he can stare down his primary WR better than Dante Culpepper, and he can get injured better than Derrick Rose. What a stud. Andrew Spicoli Zimmerman is an EWU transfer and the presumed backup. Brad Heidlebaugh is next after him and with his mechanics our best hope is that he doesn't need to play this year and can switch positions next season. Seriously, Tebow has better mechanics.
Advantage: NDSU, only because of my boy VanDerDellen.
RB: Oh, boy, this is about to get heated.
Bruce Anderson and Lance Dunn will try and get there Ojuri/Crockett on this year. Here's a hint, they won't. The OL aint shit compared to what Ojuri and Crockett had. Anyway Bruce is big and fast and strong and made of glass. He's really good when healthy. People seem to think Dunn is going to be an all american this year. He's damn fast and thicker than anyone would guess. We'll see on all that but he's a really good player. I've heard people compare Purifoy to David Johnson. Well, I'd like to tell all of you dreamers that you're fucked in the head and he aint even half the player David Johnson, you know, the top RB in the fucking NFL, was at UNI. Just stop with all that noise. What's next? Cofield is the next Lamar Gordon? Kleiman must be a big fan of John Santiago because he's trying to make Ty Brooks into him. He looked pretty good in your spring game so I'm sure he will be the waterbug de jour. He's a ND boy so I can't cheer against him. The way I see it, 3 very good backs and some backups with apparently mythical potential.
Last year we had a two headed monster with John Santiago and Brady Olivera. We then added James Johannesson, only because NDSU didn't have any pesos for the poor schmuck, to create a 3 headed monster. A hydra.... minus 6 heads, if you will. So you're telling me we have the most shifty and explosive RB in the country, a bruising Canadian battering ram, and a 6'1" 230+ blazing fast B1G transfer all in one backfield?
Advantage: obviously UND
TE: Luke "Thor" Feidler is 6'5" 250 lbs, 30 of which are his golden flowing locks. He's got long skinny arms and looks like he isn't worth a shit in the run game, until he locks on and seals the edge. Don't let the hair and the soft skin fool you, this chick is a killer (http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209603607&DB_OEM_ID=13500). Alex Cloyd was the first TE to play as a true fr since Jimmy Kleinsasssser. He came in built like a senior. A wrestling stud from Nebraska. You hear that Christopher Moen? Wildcard is Hunter Pinke out of good ol Wishek, he's gonna be a good one.
First off, what the fuck are you guys doing with 10 TEs on your roster? Is this part of Messingham's Revenge? Jeff Illies is apparently majoring in biker meth. He's either a small TE or a slow WR, take your pick. Ben Ellefson fell to NDSU like manna from heaven.... and didn't have a single catch last year. He "was a key blocker for NDSU" so there's that. That dirty cheap shot giving cock sucker Conner Wentz is still around? Good. Nate Jensen is a tall goofy looking bastard. He's a good redzone matchup because he's tall and so goofy looking that nobody takes him seriously. Think Gindorth with get his shirt pulled? I hear he's pretty good.
Advantage: NDSU.... for now
OL: AJ Stockwell has started is going to be a 4 year starter at LT. Demon Taylor is a pre season first team RG. LG/CGrant Aplin is a 6' 300lb meat missile. C Patrick Rooney looks like a pile of goose shit but is actually good at football. Elijah Grady....... didn't report to camp.... soooooo Matt Molasses In January Cox might have to start at RT unless a RS FR steps up. Fuck. Either way, 4 returning starters is pretty good. If we lock down the RT spot look out. Candidates for that position are Noah Mortel, a supremely athletic cheese head and Bryce Blair who literally cannot get above 280lbs. Other than RT our OL is rock solid.
Teh rams have a bunch of question marks coming into this season. However, RG Austin Kuhnert is a 4 year starter and all around bad dude. RT Zack Johnson is on his 9th year of eligibility now? Seriously. OC Tanner Volson will attempt to fill the large shoes of Kuhnert. LT Dillon Radunz is covered in drool from Jeremy Jorgensen's gushing sessions on the insiders. That man has a sick obsession with this young man and you can hear his pants straining with tension when he talks about him. Maybe he can give flying lessons at UND after Radunz files a restraining order? Will Zack Zeimer finally earn a starting roll with teh rams at LG?
Advantage: The Hogs - experience trumps drool soaked potential
WR: RJ Urbandunski is finally a senior. Not gonna lie, he hasn't improved one bit since he was a fr. Sure he was a stud as a fr but I figured he would have improved at least a little bit. Tell you what though, I love me some Darrius Shepherd. He is a baller. Sure he's not big or all that fast but he gets the job done and is a big game playmaker. Sean Engel is like soon talllll. So Engel if is the white Dee Grey who is the white Kenny Golladay? Wow, who the fuck are these other guys? I've heard of Dimitri Williams but he's ass. These other guys were obviously too good to play for UND though so I'm sure they're all future all americans. You guys better hope Desmond Cain is all that.
Stanley Toivonen Wanzek Mercer. 6'4, 6'3, 6'4, 6'2. Stanley is ol reliable and at 230lbs blocks like a damn TE on the edge. Toivonen is slow as shit but he's a big boy with some strong mits who can also block. Wanzek is an absolute stud. Last year he weighed about 175 lbs and was able to play as a true fr and make spectacular catches all over the field. He's up to 200 lbs now. DBs are in trouble. Mercer didn't factor in to the offense really until the last 5 games after transferring over in the summer. He's got size and speed and was our go to WR down the stretch last year. He now actually knows the offense so expect a big year out of him. The weakness of this very pale basketball team is deep speed to keep safeties honest. Enter Cam McKinney. Word on the street is he is faster than Santiago. IF he can be a true deep threat our offense will be a buzzsaw. Throw in Danny Amendola look alike Josh Seibel and we've got a complete set of WR.
Advantage: UND - 5 proven guys > 2
Overall: UND - we've just got more experience and talent
North Side
08-03-2017, 03:50 AM
too long didn't read........... NDSU > UND
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-03-2017, 04:03 AM
Just when you thought I forgot to perform the only task I was put on this God forsaken planet to do I finally got over NDSU's 6th consecutive national title and mustered up the gusto to limp my way through yet another attempt to teach you lot to not breathe with your mouths. Whew, inhale, through your nose. Anyway we enter this season ranked #5 by Craig Haley, a reward for last season's playoff dominance no doubt. NDSU comes in at #1 as any defending national champ should. Craig is so smart. It seems inevitable that the NCAA will match our teams up in the playoffs this year. It will be a game of epic proportions; a true heavyweight bout. It's not so much the David and Goliath that the last game was.... more like The Mountain vs The Hound or Tyrion Lannister vs syphilis.
Coaching:
HC: Bubbles is better get over it.
OC: Rudolph vs Polesuck was a true head to head smashfest of incompetence; the jet sweep into the near sideline vs the double reverse drive killer. Somehow that neanderthal dragged his knuckles down to the Hawkeye state in a bizarre twist where someone deserving a demotion actually got a huge promotion. We now have to deal with teh Messinghams Effects. Seriously though, what the fuck is that? Anyway Messingham's Revenge will definitely occur if you drink the tap water at the Fargo Loaf. In other words, this one is an explosive push followed by some vomit and maybe a shomit if you're lucky.
DC: Schmidty vs Entz? Apparently, according to Jeff and Dom, the other Jeff and something called Jorgie, Entz was handed the keys to a Ferrari for this season. The only way he screws this up is if he's been taking driving lessons from Caitlyn Jenner. Schmidty is the man, he was a better player than Entz and is a better coach.
Overall: teh FHawkers
Offense:
QB:Hockey Stick still looks like a 220 lb 12 year old boy but throws the ball about as well as a 14 year old girl. He can run though, so there's that. He hasn't lost many games but he's just not that good of a QB..... compared to Carson Wentz. My boy Heny VanDerDellen is now the best QB on campus. That's right. That's a hot take right there. Cole Davids is going to be the best 3rd string QB in the nation. BOOM DOUBLE HOT TAKE!
Keaton Studsrud can throw (http://forum.siouxsports.com/uploads/monthly_2017_08/Screenshot_20170801-000921.png.10c87b3de088c555b6c088553546e9a4.png) , he can run, he can stare down his primary WR better than Dante Culpepper, and he can get injured better than Derrick Rose. What a stud. Andrew Spicoli Zimmerman is an EWU transfer and the presumed backup. Brad Heidlebaugh is next after him and with his mechanics our best hope is that he doesn't need to play this year and can switch positions next season. Seriously, Tebow has better mechanics.
Advantage: NDSU, only because of my boy VanDerDellen.
RB: Oh, boy, this is about to get heated.
Bruce Anderson and Lance Dunn will try and get there Ojuri/Crockett on this year. Here's a hint, they won't. The OL aint shit compared to what Ojuri and Crockett had. Anyway Bruce is big and fast and strong and made of glass. He's really good when healthy. People seem to think Dunn is going to be an all american this year. He's damn fast and thicker than anyone would guess. We'll see on all that but he's a really good player. I've heard people compare Purifoy to David Johnson. Well, I'd like to tell all of you dreamers that you're fucked in the head and he aint even half the player David Johnson, you know, the top RB in the fucking NFL, was at UNI. Just stop with all that noise. What's next? Cofield is the next Lamar Gordon? Kleiman must be a big fan of John Santiago because he's trying to make Ty Brooks into him. He looked pretty good in your spring game so I'm sure he will be the waterbug de jour. He's a ND boy so I can't cheer against him. The way I see it, 3 very good backs and some backups with apparently mythical potential.
Last year we had a two headed monster with John Santiago and Brady Olivera. We then added James Johannesson, only because NDSU didn't have any pesos for the poor schmuck, to create a 3 headed monster. A hydra.... minus 6 heads, if you will. So you're telling me we have the most shifty and explosive RB in the country, a bruising Canadian battering ram, and a 6'1" 230+ blazing fast B1G transfer all in one backfield?
Advantage: obviously UND
TE: Luke "Thor" Feidler is 6'5" 250 lbs, 30 of which are his golden flowing locks. He's got long skinny arms and looks like he isn't worth a shit in the run game, until he locks on and seals the edge. Don't let the hair and the soft skin fool you, this chick is a killer (http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209603607&DB_OEM_ID=13500). Alex Cloyd was the first TE to play as a true fr since Jimmy Kleinsasssser. He came in built like a senior. A wrestling stud from Nebraska. You hear that Christopher Moen? Wildcard is Hunter Pinke out of good ol Wishek, he's gonna be a good one.
First off, what the fuck are you guys doing with 10 TEs on your roster? Is this part of Messingham's Revenge? Jeff Illies is apparently majoring in biker meth. He's either a small TE or a slow WR, take your pick. Ben Ellefson fell to NDSU like manna from heaven.... and didn't have a single catch last year. He "was a key blocker for NDSU" so there's that. That dirty cheap shot giving cock sucker Conner Wentz is still around? Good. Nate Jensen is a tall goofy looking bastard. He's a good redzone matchup because he's tall and so goofy looking that nobody takes him seriously. Think Gindorth with get his shirt pulled? I hear he's pretty good.
Advantage: NDSU.... for now
OL: AJ Stockwell has started is going to be a 4 year starter at LT. Demon Taylor is a pre season first team RG. LG/CGrant Aplin is a 6' 300lb meat missile. C Patrick Rooney looks like a pile of goose shit but is actually good at football. Elijah Grady....... didn't report to camp.... soooooo Matt Molasses In January Cox might have to start at RT unless a RS FR steps up. Fuck. Either way, 4 returning starters is pretty good. If we lock down the RT spot look out. Candidates for that position are Noah Mortel, a supremely athletic cheese head and Bryce Blair who literally cannot get above 280lbs. Other than RT our OL is rock solid.
Teh rams have a bunch of question marks coming into this season. However, RG Austin Kuhnert is a 4 year starter and all around bad dude. RT Zack Johnson is on his 9th year of eligibility now? Seriously. OC Tanner Volson will attempt to fill the large shoes of Kuhnert. LT Dillon Radunz is covered in drool from Jeremy Jorgensen's gushing sessions on the insiders. That man has a sick obsession with this young man and you can hear his pants straining with tension when he talks about him. Maybe he can give flying lessons at UND after Radunz files a restraining order? Will Zack Zeimer finally earn a starting roll with teh rams at LG?
Advantage: The Hogs - experience trumps drool soaked potential
WR: RJ Urbandunski is finally a senior. Not gonna lie, he hasn't improved one bit since he was a fr. Sure he was a stud as a fr but I figured he would have improved at least a little bit. Tell you what though, I love me some Darrius Shepherd. He is a baller. Sure he's not big or all that fast but he gets the job done and is a big game playmaker. Sean Engel is like soon talllll. So Engel if is the white Dee Grey who is the white Kenny Golladay? Wow, who the fuck are these other guys? I've heard of Dimitri Williams but he's ass. These other guys were obviously too good to play for UND though so I'm sure they're all future all americans. You guys better hope Desmond Cain is all that.
Stanley Toivonen Wanzek Mercer. 6'4, 6'3, 6'4, 6'2. Stanley is ol reliable and at 230lbs blocks like a damn TE on the edge. Toivonen is slow as shit but he's a big boy with some strong mits who can also block. Wanzek is an absolute stud. Last year he weighed about 175 lbs and was able to play as a true fr and make spectacular catches all over the field. He's up to 200 lbs now. DBs are in trouble. Mercer didn't factor in to the offense really until the last 5 games after transferring over in the summer. He's got size and speed and was our go to WR down the stretch last year. He now actually knows the offense so expect a big year out of him. The weakness of this very pale basketball team is deep speed to keep safeties honest. Enter Cam McKinney. Word on the street is he is faster than Santiago. IF he can be a true deep threat our offense will be a buzzsaw. Throw in Danny Amendola look alike Josh Seibel and we've got a complete set of WR.
Advantage: UND - 5 proven guys > 2
Overall: UND - we've just got more experience and talent
Good ol college try. You get an " A " for that one thebigund.
ndsubison1
08-03-2017, 04:04 AM
What round will we play the Bunnies in this year?
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-03-2017, 04:07 AM
What round will we play the Bunnies in this year?
You will play them the round before we play them at the Hawk's Nest
ByeSonBusiness
08-03-2017, 04:13 AM
You will play them the round before we play them at the Hawk's Nest
now they are letting 7-4 at large teams host 9-2 seeded teams?
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-03-2017, 04:17 AM
now they are letting 7-4 at large teams host 9-2 seeded teams?
You may have the 4 loses, SDSU beats you twice, E Wash gets you early, and then one more slip. We'll have to wait and see.
BisonTru
08-03-2017, 04:33 AM
http://www.dreamworks.com/trolls/assets/content/characters/_290/thumb_trolls_poppy.jpg
Cute
Mr Meaty
08-03-2017, 11:18 AM
Playoffs !! Playoffs!! Un_ is talking about playoffs!! Jim Mora there new coach. I guess Grady will plow the road for them this year. Almost sure one coach up there will get in trouble for kiddy porn since it is rampant up there. The ghosts of Mussman still haunts the tin shed. See you in 2019 and not sooner.
Professor Chaos
08-03-2017, 12:47 PM
How many committees did it take to come up with this "analysis"?
scottietohottie
08-03-2017, 01:12 PM
You may have the 4 loses, SDSU beats you twice, E Wash gets you early, and then one more slip. We'll have to wait and see.
Do we still do that preposterous statement thing?
Mr. Burgundy
08-03-2017, 01:23 PM
You may have the 4 loses, SDSU beats you twice, E Wash gets you early, and then one more slip. We'll have to wait and see.
I am great with this friendly banter, but you two can't go back to ss.com and now continually rip on how BV talks about UND. You guys start threads, clearly in jest, and it clutters up both boards over it. I am sure we will meet again someday. Until then, best of luck. You should stock pile up wins this year in the Big Sky. Keep getting ready for the Missouri Valley. Couple early tests against the bottom feeders of the valley will be a good sample. Just stating NDSU isn't talking about this game or any other potential playoff matchup. I think we clearly understand we can beat anyone, and can lose to anyone. The valley is a beast. One at a time, it is silly to look ahead to the playoffs.
scottietohottie
08-03-2017, 01:28 PM
I am great with this friendly banter, but you two can't go back to ss.com and now continually rip on how BV talks about UND. You guys start threads, clearly in jest, and it clutters up both boards over it. I am sure we will meet again someday. Until then, best of luck. You should stock pile up wins this year in the Big Sky. Keep getting ready for the Missouri Valley. Couple early tests against the bottom feeders of the valley will be a good sample. Just stating NDSU isn't talking about this game or any other potential playoff matchup. I think we clearly understand we can beat anyone, and can lose to anyone. The valley is a beast. One at a time, it is silly to look ahead to the playoffs.
Start threads? Heck they can start threads no problem there. It's the fhawking bird shit in every other thread that gets annoying. I blame it on the extra long offseason. I know those sick fhawkers from up North enjoy watching NDSU play football just like the rest of us they just pretend it's their team when they watch.
Mr. Burgundy
08-03-2017, 01:40 PM
I understand a rivalry, wanting to improve, etc...but EVERYTHING revolves around NDSU. I thought he would lose some options on this board after calling us pussies, but he didn't. But then makes fun of how BV is full of junk. We love talking about football. THis is smack...and he already started the largest thread in smack. He posts on both boards more than Lakes wants to post. ALOT!
Cannot wait for REAL FOOTBALL and not off season talk. But, NDSU has had a GREAT OFF SEASON! Kramer did his job, nobody better in the business. We redshirted everyone, didn't lose anyone. We are loaded and motivated to get what we want back. Killing recruiting, winning a ton of great recruiting battles and in one month we get to go back to the best home field advantage in the FCS. One month! Until then, trying to stay focused.
If Bubbles can win a playoff game it will be his first as a head coach ever. If that happens please act like you guys have won one before......oh wait.
Big Sky is terrible again this year, and somehow EWU is the only preseason top 5 conference opponent you have. Looking forward to hearing about your "tougher" schedule...
How many more times are you guys going to let Grady give you a lap dance before you realize he's not really in love with you?
Your awesome running backs ran for a full yard less per carry last year than NDSU, and you lost your only decent OL. Studsrud is consistently awful, which says a lot for your depth at QB if he is forced to play. Glad to see you didn't even attempt to compare defenses...
MNLonghorn10
08-03-2017, 01:50 PM
If/when Utah kills UND by 3+ TD's, all of that typing would be for not. Utahs the level of program NDSU feasts on.
scottietohottie
08-03-2017, 01:59 PM
You should change the name of the thread to a birds eye view.
Mr. Burgundy
08-03-2017, 02:02 PM
If/when Utah kills UND by 3+ TD's, all of that typing would be for not. Utahs the level of program NDSU feasts on.
They aren't built to play Utah. Utah is a tough matchup for them. It is a large spread. But, like I told a friend, Utah is the least of their concerns. They have to beat USD, that is their game of the year. If they lose to Utah, USD and potentially Eastern Washington, they will have 3 losses and no quality wins. Missouri State is the worst in the league. The thing about them, is their new staff played no upper classman, they all got a year older, he can coach. Nothing would shock me. Is it true NDSU averaged a yard more at tailback than UND did? It was just posted. In the valley vs the sky? Is that even possible?
El_Chapo
08-03-2017, 02:05 PM
how about just delete these stupid threads? this 1 and the other 1 that was started.. they can all go into the 1 stupid und thread in smack talk.
see, you all respond, then the idiots up there say "see they need us..." we dont need you at all!! people went to CHUBS in 2nd quarter of the last UND game and do the same in 2019
bri-dog
08-03-2017, 02:08 PM
Glad to see you didn't even attempt to compare defenses...
That will be coming in another long post (well, it has every year so far)...
They aren't built to play Utah. Utah is a tough matchup for them. It is a large spread. But, like I told a friend, Utah is the least of their concerns. They have to beat USD, that is their game of the year. If they lose to Utah, USD and potentially Eastern Washington, they will have 3 losses and no quality wins. Missouri State is the worst in the league. The thing about them, is their new staff played no upper classman, they all got a year older, he can coach. Nothing would shock me. Is it true NDSU averaged a yard more at tailback than UND did? It was just posted. In the valley vs the sky? Is that even possible?
NCAA website: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/23
UND: 546 rushes for 2501 yards = 4.58 YPC
NDSU: 596 rushes for 3372 yards = 5.66 YPC
Big Sky + dogshit OOC vs. Valley + two playoff teams + Iowa....I couldn't believe it either.
scottietohottie
08-03-2017, 02:18 PM
NCAA website: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/23
UND: 546 rushes for 2501 yards = 4.58 YPC
NDSU: 596 rushes for 3372 yards = 5.66 YPC
Big Sky + dogshit OOC vs. Valley + two playoff teams + Iowa....I couldn't believe it either.
I'd take a Kramer red shirt freshman over a goopher transfer any day.
23Bison
08-03-2017, 02:18 PM
I'm curious to see what game the Fawkers win first (if that even happens) then try to explain to us how good they are.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 02:25 PM
NCAA website: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/23
UND: 546 rushes for 2501 yards = 4.58 YPC
NDSU: 596 rushes for 3372 yards = 5.66 YPC
Big Sky + dogshit OOC vs. Valley + two playoff teams + Iowa....I couldn't believe it either.
Our OL was a mess for the first few games. They came together down the stretch.
Professor Chaos
08-03-2017, 02:33 PM
NCAA website: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/23
UND: 546 rushes for 2501 yards = 4.58 YPC
NDSU: 596 rushes for 3372 yards = 5.66 YPC
Big Sky + dogshit OOC vs. Valley + two playoff teams + Iowa....I couldn't believe it either.
All that with who some on this board apparently considered as the anti-Christ as OC last year.
scottietohottie
08-03-2017, 02:36 PM
All that with who some on this board apparently considered as the anti-Christ at OC last year.
They obviously didn't count the bubble screens as runs.
wagsabison
08-03-2017, 02:40 PM
NCAA website: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/23
UND: 546 rushes for 2501 yards = 4.58 YPC
NDSU: 596 rushes for 3372 yards = 5.66 YPC
Big Sky + dogshit OOC vs. Valley + two playoff teams + Iowa....I couldn't believe it either.
They did have that difficult matchup with Bowling Green.
abc123
08-03-2017, 02:42 PM
NCAA website: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/23
UND: 546 rushes for 2501 yards = 4.58 YPC
NDSU: 596 rushes for 3372 yards = 5.66 YPC
Big Sky + dogshit OOC vs. Valley + two playoff teams + Iowa....I couldn't believe it either.
Yeah, those stats are garbage, they include QB sacks, which is really telling of how good a team's running backs are.
UND's top 4 tailbacks (Santiago, Olivera, Gordon, Norberg) - 406 carries, 2,253 net yards, 5.6 YPC
NDSU's top 4 tailbacks (Dunn, Frazier, Morlock, Anderson) - 438 carries, 2,502 net yards, 5.7 YPC
scottietohottie
08-03-2017, 02:44 PM
Yeah, those stats are garbage, they include QB sacks, which is really telling of how good a team's running backs are.
UND's top 4 tailbacks (Santiago, Olivera, Gordon, Norberg) - 406 carries, 2,253 net yards, 5.6 YPC
NDSU's top 4 tailbacks (Dunn, Frazier, Morlock, Anderson) - 438 carries, 2,502 net yards, 5.7 YPC
Thanks for clarifying that NDSU is better.
Bison Loaf
08-03-2017, 02:45 PM
Our OL was a mess for the first few games. They came together down the stretch.
Ah......makes sense now..........messy Fawkers that came together.
abc123
08-03-2017, 02:46 PM
Thanks for clarifying that NDSU is better.
NDSU had a better line than UND last year, especially at the beginning of the year. I have no problem admitting that.
Our OL was a mess for the first few games. They came together down the stretch.
Down the stretch....you mean against Big Sky defenses, right? South Dakota was 116th out of 122 in FCS in rushing defense; if you add up games against Big Sky and the worst rushing defense in the Valley (65 Y/G behind the 2nd worst), UND averaged 5.03 YPC.
Stony Brook, Bowling Green, and Richmond: 116 rushes for 340 yards = 2.93 YPC. Please remember this when your OL "comes together down the stretch" again this year.
jacksfan29
08-03-2017, 02:58 PM
Yeah, those stats are garbage, they include QB sacks, which is really telling of how good a team's running backs are.
UND's top 4 tailbacks (Santiago, Olivera, Gordon, Norberg) - 406 carries, 2,253 net yards, 5.6 YPC
NDSU's top 4 tailbacks (Dunn, Frazier, Morlock, Anderson) - 438 carries, 2,502 net yards, 5.7 YPC
Not to help out Bison fans, but really? One, you just proved NDSU's numbers were better. Two, UND's numbers came against BSC defenses (if you can call them that). NDSU were playing MVFC defenses. Which is better?
Just beat USD, which I'm not sure UND can do.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 03:01 PM
Ah......makes sense now..........messy Fawkers that came together.
Play soggy cookie is good for moral.
Yeah, those stats are garbage, they include QB sacks, which is really telling of how good a team's running backs are.
UND's top 4 tailbacks (Santiago, Olivera, Gordon, Norberg) - 406 carries, 2,253 net yards, 5.6 YPC
NDSU's top 4 tailbacks (Dunn, Frazier, Morlock, Anderson) - 438 carries, 2,502 net yards, 5.7 YPC
I use total team rushing statistics, you pick and choose and you say my stats are garbage? Cool. How many QB sacks did you guys allow last year? FWIW NDSU's numbers that I use included sacks as well.
I'll put it several other ways then:
-UND ran for 4.58/carry and 208/game against defenses that gave up an average of 185 yards/game (2 under 140/game), NDSU went for 5.66/carry and 240/game against defenses that gave up 158 yards/game (6 under 140/game).
-UND ran for 164 yards against Bowling Green that gave up 190/game; NDSU ran for 239 yards against Iowa that gave up 153/game.
Bison Loaf
08-03-2017, 03:44 PM
Our OL was a mess for the first few games. They came together down the stretch.
Down the stretch....you mean against Big Sky defenses, right?
Come Together by the Bubbles
"Here come old Bubba
His line gelling slowly
He show them the schedule
He one fawking genius
He got Fluffy D's on their knees
When they in the Big Sky, his boys do what they please.
Come together, right now, said he."
abc123
08-03-2017, 03:47 PM
I use total team rushing statistics, you pick and choose and you say my stats are garbage? Cool. How many QB sacks did you guys allow last year? FWIW NDSU's numbers that I use included sacks as well.
I'm not picking and choosing anything, I'm using the actual relevant stats. The claim was NDSU's running back averaged a yard more per carry than UND's, which when looking at actual running back stats, isn't true. What do QB sacks have to do with a running back's YPC average?
Not to help out Bison fans, but really? One, you just proved NDSU's numbers were better. Two, UND's numbers came against BSC defenses (if you can call them that). NDSU were playing MVFC defenses. Which is better?
Just beat USD, which I'm not sure UND can do.
I never said they weren't better, just pointing out they were much closer than the original claim.
Managed to do it last year, expecting to do it again this year.
IBleedYellow
08-03-2017, 04:16 PM
Why are UND fans so obsessed with NDSU?
Your fucking president said that you would be better than us - I guess that answers my question - it starts from the top and filters all the way down to the mouth breathing idiots that post on message boards as trolls.
I'm not picking and choosing anything, I'm using the actual relevant stats. The claim was NDSU's running back averaged a yard more per carry than UND's, which when looking at actual running back stats, isn't true. What do QB sacks have to do with a running back's YPC average?
Then why did you only pick to include the top 4 rushers from each team? If you take out Studsrud and Stick, UND rushed for 5.06 YPC and NDSU was at 5.56 YPC if you used the entire team rushing stats. By not doing that you are essentially saying "if you ignore all of our guys that suck, we are basically the same." And that is taking out all of Stick's carries, many of which are designed runs where he is essentially a running back.
UND opponents gave up 4.65 YPC, NDSU's gave up 4.15 YPC. Fewer yards per carry against shittier defenses.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 04:24 PM
Then why did you only pick to include the top 4 rushers from each team? If you take out Studsrud and Stick, UND rushed for 5.06 YPC and NDSU was at 5.56 YPC if you used the entire team rushing stats. By not doing that you are essentially saying "if you ignore all of our guys that suck, we are basically the same." And that is taking out all of Stick's carries, many of which are designed runs where he is essentially a running back.
UND opponents gave up 4.65 YPC, NDSU's gave up 4.15 YPC. Fewer yards per carry against shittier defenses.
How many offenses in teh valleys are actually good?
scottietohottie
08-03-2017, 04:26 PM
How many offenses in teh valleys are actually good?
The one team in the valley who doesn't play the Bison.
abc123
08-03-2017, 05:03 PM
Then why did you only pick to include the top 4 rushers from each team? If you take out Studsrud and Stick, UND rushed for 5.06 YPC and NDSU was at 5.56 YPC if you used the entire team rushing stats. By not doing that you are essentially saying "if you ignore all of our guys that suck, we are basically the same." And that is taking out all of Stick's carries, many of which are designed runs where he is essentially a running back.
UND opponents gave up 4.65 YPC, NDSU's gave up 4.15 YPC. Fewer yards per carry against shittier defenses.
Your exact claim: "Your awesome running backs ran for a full yard less per carry last year than NDSU"
I picked everyone listed as a running back and had at least 10 carries, because you know, you were talking about running backs. If you want to use every carry by every player listed as a running back last year, then its 5.5 YPC to 5.6 YPC with NDSU still having a slight advantage. Make up your mind what you want to argue before you make a statement. UND's QB getting sacked or the OC thinking a double reverse is a good idea and ends up going for negative yards has zero to do with the running backs YPC, which is what you originally made a statement about.
BlueBisonRock
08-03-2017, 05:28 PM
:facepalm:
You f'hawkers are making a great case by establishing just how delusional the world in eastern Grand Forks county has become.
:facepalm2:
How many offenses in teh valleys are actually good?
By my count:
Top 40 total offense: Big Sky 6/13, MVFC 4/10
Top 40 rushing offense: Big Sky 4/13, MVFC 3/10
Disclaimer: All totals include quarterback sacks, because those actually do count in football.
UND played 2 Top 40 defenses last year (two losses). NDSU played 6 Top 40 defenses.
Your exact claim: "Your awesome running backs ran for a full yard less per carry last year than NDSU"
I picked everyone listed as a running back and had at least 10 carries, because you know, you were talking about running backs. If you want to use every carry by every player listed as a running back last year, then its 5.5 YPC to 5.6 YPC with NDSU still having a slight advantage. Make up your mind what you want to argue before you make a statement. UND's QB getting sacked or the OC thinking a double reverse is a good idea and ends up going for negative yards has zero to do with the running backs YPC, which is what you originally made a statement about.
Fine, I can fix my claim: your rushing offense, which has been boasted about as being very good despite playing in a league with overall poor rushing defense and against OOC opponents with poor rushing defenses, still averaged a full yard less per carry on all plays counted as rushing attempts than NDSU, who played in a league with very good rushing defenses and against OOC opponents that can stop the run. Appreciate you pointing out the error of my ways, forcing me to come up with several other descriptions of just how bad your rushing offense was considering the level of competition.
Better?
abc123
08-03-2017, 06:42 PM
Disclaimer: All totals include quarterback sacks, because those actually do count in football.
Of course they do and I have never indicated anything besides that. But you set the discussion point by comparing running backs YPC. I don't recall that being impacted by WR jet sweeps or QB sacks or bootlegs. If you want to change what you are talking about, that's fine, but your original point was wrong. UND's running backs had an average within .1 yards of NDSU's running backs, who played behind a better offensive line.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 06:42 PM
By my count:
Top 40 total offense: Big Sky 6/13, MVFC 4/10
Top 40 rushing offense: Big Sky 4/13, MVFC 3/10
Disclaimer: All totals include quarterback sacks, because those actually do count in football.
Not rankings wise. A good offense can look great against a shit defense. A good defense can look great against a shit offense. I question that teh valley has enough offenses that can really challenge defenses. I know our coaches have talked about how much easier it was to gameplan for opposing offenses in teh valley.
Of course they do and I have never indicated anything besides that. But you set the discussion point by comparing running backs YPC. I don't recall that being impacted by WR jet sweeps or QB sacks or bootlegs. If you want to change what you are talking about, that's fine, but your original point was wrong. UND's running backs had an average within .1 yards of NDSU's running backs, who played behind a better offensive line.
Don't you mean selected UND RB's?
JFC: the more I look at this stuff the worse it gets. UND played 4 games against the 8 worst defenses in FCS last year. A third of your games against the 8 WORST defenses, and you couldn't crack the top 50 in total offense....
Da Bison
08-03-2017, 06:50 PM
I suppose that this year with an All-world OT like Grady you will probably lead the FCS in rushing and never have another QB sack.:rofl:
Not rankings wise. A good offense can look great against a shit defense. A good defense can look great against a shit offense. I question that teh valley has enough offenses that can really challenge defenses. I know our coaches have talked about how much easier it was to gameplan for opposing offenses in teh valley.
Glad the game planning was easy, cause stopping those offenses sure wasn't. The last four games against valley teams UND has given up 44 (USD, 2016), 34 (NDSU, 2015), 38 (Missouri St.....yep, that Missouri St, 2014), and 35 (SDSU, 2013).
abc123
08-03-2017, 07:09 PM
Don't you mean selected UND RB's?
JFC: the more I look at this stuff the worse it gets. UND played 4 games against the 8 worst defenses in FCS last year. A third of your games against the 8 WORST defenses, and you couldn't crack the top 50 in total offense....
Nope, all RB's. I had to add in Nevermann's 1 carry for -2 yards for UND and Purifoy and Brooks (who's apparently a RB now?) combined 12 carries for 37 yards for NDSU so I wasn't picking and choosing.
wagsabison
08-03-2017, 07:18 PM
Glad the game planning was easy, cause stopping those offenses sure wasn't. The last four games against valley teams UND has given up 44 (USD, 2016), 34 (NDSU, 2015), 38 (Missouri St.....yep, that Missouri St, 2014), and 35 (SDSU, 2013).
That game we could have easily put up +50. Talk about throwing UND a bone and not destroying them on the scoreboard.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 07:20 PM
Glad the game planning was easy, cause stopping those offenses sure wasn't. The last four games against valley teams UND has given up 44 (USD, 2016), 34 (NDSU, 2015), 38 (Missouri St.....yep, that Missouri St, 2014), and 35 (SDSU, 2013).
Pretty valid sample size here. Throw 2014 out with new everything and a bazillion true fr starting and playing. 2013 SDSU was #5 in the nation with Zenner and crew against the worst UND defense in history under Mussman. NDSU if I'm not mistaken won the title in 2015 with the #2 overall draft pick at qb. Last year against USD we just played like trash, no way around that. In other words 4 games don't make a trend, especially when two of those games were against exceptionally good teams.
Bisonator98
08-03-2017, 07:28 PM
How many offenses in teh valleys are actually good?
Umm do you really want to go there?
2014 - Missouri State over UND 38-0
2016 - you guys had to come back to beat USD 47-44!
So much for weak MVFC offenses or is it back to UN_?:biggrin:
Christopher Moen
08-03-2017, 07:35 PM
Pretty valid sample size here. Throw 2014 out with new everything and a bazillion true fr starting and playing. 2013 SDSU was #5 in the nation with Zenner and crew against the worst UND defense in history under Mussman. NDSU if I'm not mistaken won the title in 2015 with the #2 overall draft pick at qb. Last year against USD we just played like trash, no way around that. In other words 4 games don't make a trend, especially when two of those games were against exceptionally good teams.
Why not? Your team finally made the playoff due to having an unbelievable easy schedule and then lose in their first playoff game after a three week rest against a team comprised of tired, young back-ups. All this has led many of your team's fans to believe your team is now "trending" towards being a FSC champion-caliber team.
Your team hasn't shown any proof that they can compete with the FCS's best, and with what I see you guys bringing in, I don't expect this to change. See you F'Hawkers at the FargoDome in 2019.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 07:46 PM
Why not? Your team finally made the playoff due to having an unbelievable easy schedule and then lose in their first playoff game after a three week rest against a team comprised of tired, young back-ups. All this has led many of your team's fans to believe your team is now "trending" towards being a FSC champion-caliber team.
Your team hasn't shown any proof that they can compete with the FCS's best, and with what I see you guys bringing in, I don't expect this to change. See you F'Hawkers at the FargoDome in 2019.
I guess we'll find out soon enough won't we?
Christopher Moen
08-03-2017, 07:53 PM
I guess we'll find out soon enough won't we?
If you consider two years "soon enough," then "yes." In the meantime, your team better hope those big Samoan boys from Utah don't do too much damage and cause your team to start 0-3 before conference play, where most Big Sky teams aren't going to sleep on you guys this season. Not sure if your team can handle playing with a target on their back, even if that target is microscopic compared to the one the NDSU team has on their back.
MNLonghorn10
08-03-2017, 07:55 PM
I guess we'll find out soon enough won't we?
everybody outside of grand forks, east grand forks and thompson knows the answer
Pretty valid sample size here. Throw 2014 out with new everything and a bazillion true fr starting and playing. 2013 SDSU was #5 in the nation with Zenner and crew against the worst UND defense in history under Mussman. NDSU if I'm not mistaken won the title in 2015 with the #2 overall draft pick at qb. Last year against USD we just played like trash, no way around that. In other words 4 games don't make a trend, especially when two of those games were against exceptionally good teams.
You said earlier: "I know our coaches have talked about how much easier it was to gameplan for opposing offenses in teh valley."
What other games with the valley would you like to look at that proves your statement? Or are you really saying "UND gameplans well for opposing offense in the valley as long as you don't use the result of those games against the valley as evidence"?
thebigund
08-03-2017, 07:57 PM
If you consider two years "soon enough," then "yes." In the meantime, your team better hope those big Samoan boys from Utah don't do too much damage and cause your team to start 0-3 before conference play, where most Big Sky teams aren't going to sleep on you guys this season. Not sure if your team can handle playing with a target on their back, even if that target is microscopic compared to the one the NDSU team has on their back.
I think Utah will be a good indicator of what we're made of this season. We have no reason to start slow like we did last year. Their fans think they are in for a really good season. Tough to tell though since FBS fans always talk big before a game against FCS competition.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 07:58 PM
You said earlier: "I know our coaches have talked about how much easier it was to gameplan for opposing offenses in teh valley."
What other games with the valley would you like to look at that proves your statement? Or are you really saying "UND gameplans well for opposing offense in the valley as long as you don't use the result of those games against the valley as evidence"?
Oh, I don't know, perhaps when they were at SIU for years. Just a hunch.
MNLonghorn10
08-03-2017, 08:02 PM
I think Utah will be a good indicator of what we're made of this season. We have no reason to start slow like we did last year. Their fans think they are in for a really good season. Tough to tell though since FBS fans always talk big before a game against FCS competition.
well, all but one school.
Nope, all RB's. I had to add in Nevermann's 1 carry for -2 yards for UND and Purifoy and Brooks (who's apparently a RB now?) combined 12 carries for 37 yards for NDSU so I wasn't picking and choosing.
So all other designed running plays by skill players don't count simply because of what they are listed as on the roster? A player is only a running back if he is listed as one, regardless of how he is used on a given play. Got it...
Oh, I don't know, perhaps when they were at SIU for years. Just a hunch.
I got it now....it was easier to gameplan using a completely different team of players than those he has now. Also, SIU was 16-16 in conference in Bubbles last 4 years and never made the playoffs...
thebigund
08-03-2017, 08:19 PM
I got it now....it was easier to gameplan using a completely different team of players than those he has now. Also, SIU was 16-16 in conference in Bubbles last 4 years and never made the playoffs...
That's right. I forgot you guys like to not use the entire statistical base and pick and choose portions that support your opinion.
That's right. I forgot you guys like to not use the entire statistical base and pick and choose portions that support your opinion.
I have no problem saying that SIU made the playoffs in his first two years there, using other guys recruits, but if I include that it makes it sounds like UND hired a coach that played a big part in sending a program that was good when he got there into a death spiral.
He's such a damn good coach that I would bet the head coach at SIU that hired him has certainly moved on to bigger and better things by now.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 08:33 PM
I have no problem saying that SIU made the playoffs in his first two years there, using other guys recruits, but if I include that it makes it sounds like UND hired a coach that played a big part in sending a program that was good when he got there into a death spiral.
He's such a damn good coach that I would bet the head coach at SIU that hired him has certainly moved on to bigger and better things by now.
Interesting that he has had the exact opposite effect on the program he currently leads. Interesting indeed. Also interesting that literally the post directly before you omitted relevant stats that favor Bubba you called out another poster for omitting stats that favor NDSU. Funny how that works.
Christopher Moen
08-03-2017, 08:33 PM
I think Utah will be a good indicator of what we're made of this season. We have no reason to start slow like we did last year. Their fans think they are in for a really good season. Tough to tell though since FBS fans always talk big before a game against FCS competition.
They're probably viewing you guys much in the same way we're viewing MVSU - outside of a freak injury, there's nothing to worry about.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 08:37 PM
They're probably viewing you guys much in the same way we're viewing MVSU - outside of a freak injury, there's nothing to worry about.
I actually don't view them that way at all.
Interesting that he has had the exact opposite effect on the program he currently leads. Interesting indeed. Also interesting that literally the post directly before you omitted relevant stats that favor Bubba you called out another poster for omitting stats that favor NDSU. Funny how that works.
You are 100% right, and I apologize. Don't really know how omitting the fact that SIU was good when he got there and was not good when he left favors Bubbles, but I'm sure sorry about it.
In all fairness I need to also disclose that he did go 22-21 in 4 years at Minnesota Duluth, 0-1 in the playoffs. Gotta be fair, you know...
Christopher Moen
08-03-2017, 08:44 PM
I actually don't view them that way at all.
Well, based on the grand majority of your posts on Bisonville, your view is pretty bizarro and irrelevant to begin with. Utah isn't worried about some f'hawking team being a road bump while they prepare for PAC-12 football.
thebigund
08-03-2017, 08:47 PM
You are 100% right, and I apologize. Don't really know how omitting the fact that SIU was good when he got there and was not good when he left favors Bubbles, but I'm sure sorry about it.
In all fairness I need to also disclose that he did go 22-21 in 4 years at Minnesota Duluth, 0-1 in the playoffs. Gotta be fair, you know...
With your ability to stretch facts I could easily claim that Kleimann is a shit coach who used Bohls players to win and is now in the process of running the program into the ground. It started with a semi final loss, where will it end?
With your ability to stretch facts I could easily claim that Kleimann is a shit coach who used Bohls players to win and is now in the process of running the program into the ground. It started with a semi final loss, where will it end?
You may be right; Klieman's first true recruiting class will be mostly Sophomores this year and expected to contribute a lot. We shall see how it all shakes out....kind of a false equivalency though to compare taking a playoff team to 4-7 in year four to Klieman going 40-5 with two national titles and a semifinal appearance in three years and being preseason top 2 in year four.
Next two years will say a lot about our staff since the junior and senior classes are very big.
aces1180
08-03-2017, 09:08 PM
You may be right; Klieman's first true recruiting class will be mostly Sophomores this year and expected to contribute a lot. We shall see how it all shakes out....kind of a false equivalency though to compare taking a playoff team to 4-7 in year four to Klieman going 40-5 with two national titles and a semifinal appearance in three years and being preseason top 2 in year four.
Next two years will say a lot about our staff since the junior and senior classes are very big.
Considering that Klieman was DC when those players came here, however, he has his fingerprints on those classes as well.
abc123
08-03-2017, 09:10 PM
So all other designed running plays by skill players don't count simply because of what they are listed as on the roster? A player is only a running back if he is listed as one, regardless of how he is used on a given play. Got it...
When you were specifically trying to talk down the UND running back position by saying they averaged a yard less per carry than NDSU's running backs, then yeah, I would think you would want to take a look at the players that are actually running backs. You set the parameters with your claim specifically directed at UND's backfield, now you're trying to include QB's and WR's, which no one claimed were great runners.
Christopher Moen
08-03-2017, 09:10 PM
You may be right; Klieman's first true recruiting class will be mostly Sophomores this year and expected to contribute a lot. We shall see how it all shakes out....kind of a false equivalency though to compare taking a playoff team to 4-7 in year four to Klieman going 40-5 with two national titles and a semifinal appearance in three years and being preseason top 2 in year four.
Next two years will say a lot about our staff since the junior and senior classes are very big.
Apparently our f'hawking friend doesn't pay too much attention to Klieman and his staff's recruiting ability.
Considering that Klieman was DC when those players came here, however, he has his fingerprints on those classes as well.
Great point. I was just trying to play devils advocate for those from GFCC.
Apparently our f'hawking friend doesn't pay too much attention to Klieman and his staff's recruiting ability.
Agreed, you could argue Klieman's classes have had more potential than any since the ridiculous classes of 2009-2010. 20 verbals already for 2018 as well...
When you were specifically trying to talk down the UND running back position by saying they averaged a yard less per carry than NDSU's running backs, then yeah, I would think you would want to take a look at the players that are actually running backs. You set the parameters with your claim specifically directed at UND's backfield, now you're trying to include QB's and WR's, which no one claimed were great runners.
You know what, you are right; words mean things and I did say running backs, I certainly hope we can put this behind us.
I agree that if you look only at players listed at RB, UND had only slightly worse rushing statistics playing against much worse defensive teams compared to those of NDSU RB's playing against good defenses. However, when you take into account the entire rushing offense, the UND non-RB's were so much worse against those same bad defensive teams than NDSU was against better defensive teams that they widened the gap to over a full 1 YPC.
Does that really make you feel better about the situation?
thebigund
08-03-2017, 09:53 PM
You know what, you are right; words mean things and I did say running backs, I certainly hope we can put this behind us.
I agree that if you look only at players listed at RB, UND had only slightly worse rushing statistics playing against much worse defensive teams compared to those of NDSU RB's playing against good defenses. However, when you take into account the entire rushing offense, the UND non-RB's were so much worse against those same bad defensive teams than NDSU was against better defensive teams that they widened the gap to over a full 1 YPC.
Does that really make you feel better about the situation?
Were UND's running backs worse last year or was NDSU's offensive line better last year?
Were UND's running backs worse last year or was NDSU's offensive line better last year?
UND's running backs were worse last year and NDSU's offensive line was better last year. Better running game by any statistical measure against much better defensive competition by any statistical measure.
grizlandbisonfan
08-04-2017, 12:17 AM
Y'all are taking this way too seriously. It's satire people, remember Andy from Iowa?
I can't wait for the defensive preview. Heaven only knows how much better Tank Harris with a Chinese aeronautics student on either side of him is than our d line.
Plus, I'm pretty sure the und s&c dude takes schmucks that look like dj qualls and turns them into Terry Crews.
thebigund
08-04-2017, 01:55 AM
Y'all are taking this way too seriously. It's satire people, remember Andy from Iowa?
I can't wait for the defensive preview. Heaven only knows how much better Tank Harris with a Chinese aeronautics student on either side of him is than our d line.
Plus, I'm pretty sure the und s&c dude takes schmucks that look like dj qualls and turns them into Terry Crews.
This guy gets it
Mayville Bison
08-04-2017, 01:17 PM
UND's running backs were worse last year and NDSU's offensive line was better last year. Better running game by any statistical measure against much better defensive competition by any statistical measure.
What about plays on 2nd and 3 with 11:16 left in a D1 semi-final game calling for a running play to the short side of the field? I know the bad guys have never made it that far in the FCS playoffs, but something tells me they might have the edge on that one.
Too soon?
Y'all are taking this way too seriously. It's satire people, remember Andy from Iowa?
I can't wait for the defensive preview. Heaven only knows how much better Tank Harris with a Chinese aeronautics student on either side of him is than our d line.
Plus, I'm pretty sure the und s&c dude takes schmucks that look like dj qualls and turns them into Terry Crews.
Oh I get that it is shitty satire, nobody can be that stupid naturally. Andy was at least good at it.
I can wait for the defensive comparison: your Tank harris comment is solid, and their linebackers will be better than ours simply because they have four of them starting and we only have 3.
Bisonator98
08-04-2017, 03:33 PM
Hey undies how about just beat Richmonds backups this year before looking ahead to any game against NDSU.
TheDynastyContinues
08-07-2017, 07:22 PM
I'll sum this up in the simplest way possible. Regardless of their fantasy world that resides in Grand Forks, UND has done nothing to impress anyone and that won't change. Try winning against a ranked team or winning a few playoff games before thinking you have a chance at beating NDSU or winning in a national championship in that order.
thebigund
08-17-2017, 09:23 PM
Last year I noted that NDSU’s defense was beginning to slip from their torrid pace. It appears I was right. The yearly pts/game allowed by NDSU go like this: 18-12-11-11-14-15-16. Now I know, I know, this year NDSU will have teh greatest defense in history, ever, of all time. There’s just so much depth and speed all over the field that it makes me sick. I mean these guys are gooood. Just for fun I’ll show UND’s pts/game allowed over the last few years. This should be fun, for you guys. 34-33-26-25-22…. Those first two years in the Big Sky were pretty rough on the d…. like The Pain Olympics rough. By my calculations we should allow 18pts/game and NDSU should allow 2pts/game this season. Book it. It’s science.
DL:
When I look at NDSU’s DL I see quite a few guys that I wanted at UND pretty bad. Nate Tanguay is one of those guys. He’s a fucking prick and I love it. A real tone setter for the defense. He’s one of those DTs that blows up a play in the backfield a few times a game and celebrates like an ape. It’s contagious and you guys missed that in the playoffs last year. Greg Menards is my other guy I wanted bad aaannnnnnd he’s gone. So Caleb Butler is now the top returning sacker for teh bizuns…. So much for the greatest defense of all time. Steidl read my post last year no doubt and used it to set his goals for the year. You’re welcome. Stanley Jones is now going to have to be the man. Cole Karcz is apparently the x factor for this unit. Good for him. Throw in one time greatest commit ever Grant Morgan and the Tuzka boys and you’ve got yourself a deep DL unit.
Not so fast! UND is legitimately stacked and experienced on the DL. Jr. Tank Harris is the dancing bear in the middle. He plugs 2 gaps at a time all day long. Thanks to Tank our ILBs get to run free and make plays. SRs Brandon Dranka and Drew Greeley are back for their swan song. They started the DL renaissance at UND when they played as true FR. Both are high motor guys who are stout against the run. SO Mason Bennett is the future. He’s got elite burst and length. Look for him to have a monster year after a solid FR campaign. JR Austin Cieslak is a mammoth DE at 6’4” 300 lbs who can run. He absolutely dominates at times. If he can be consistent this year he will wreck offenses. Nick Schmitz, ever heard of him? Well this dude from Mekinock is country strong and tough as nails. Classic run stuffer. SO Carter Wilson is a little light, 235 lbs, but has elite quickness and hands. He’s another guy that is about to come in to his own this year.
Advantage: UND
LB:
UND graduated 3 starters from last year and the other had to retire due to a concussion sustained from a cheap shot. Fuck. On the bright side we sub like crazy on defense and went 3 deep last year. SO Donnel Rodgers is going to be a star. Blazing fast first step and a really heavy hitter. He’s a young man with a mustache and he’s not afraid to use it. SR Jake Disterhaupt has been a stud at OLB for the past two seasons and may be forced to move to ILB this season. This dude is FAST; he runs with the top group in the winter. He’s also tough and has a nose for the football. May be a little light for ILB but he’ll be fine. SO Jade Lawrence, the LB from Moorhead who NDSU was too errogant to offer, is, let’s say, a poor mans Travis Beck. He’s a really fast tackling machine. He’s also barely over 200lbs. Former safety Tanner Palmborg has moved down to OLB and he has turned some heads. Now for the freshman x factors. Ray Haas, 6’5” 220lbs. The word out of spring ball is that this dude is special. Supremely athletic, long, and great ball skills. By the end of the season I would not be the least bit surprised if he is starting. Also, word on the street is that true FR Noah Larson, 6’2” 230lbs, may just have his shirt pulled. This dude is carved out of stone and fast. Not your typical FR LB.
Time for my annual Nick DeLuca gush fest. He’s the best LB in the country. That was fun. Matt Plank is probably gonna start at ILB this year. He’s not bad. He’s not half the player DeLuca is inside but with graduation thinning the OLB spots NDSU is better off with DeLuca outside and Plank inside. Seems like just yesterday that Chris Board was supposed to be the best safety ever. Well he sucked at that and got moved to linebacker.... where he also sucked. I do hear that he's been hitting the weight like super hard and is looking positively ginormous. Good thing he sucks otherwise we'd all be fucked. Jabril Cox, on the other hand, is supposedly the truth. 6’3” and 230 is all you can ask for and he can run. Should be fun to watch him develop. Other than those guys it’s what? Levi Jordheim and Marlette? Basically you guys are pretty thin at LB.
Advantage: DeLuca – he’s just too good
CB:
Who are the 5 greatest cornerbacks on NDSU’s roster? Jalen, Jaylaan, Jealahn, Jayelawn, and Jaylon. Jalen Allison, is he the next great corner at NDSU? He very well could be. Has the size and better speed than Williams or Smith had. But he will need to step it up big time to get to that level. He’s got the talent to make it happen, but does he have “it”? We will see. I’m sure he does. Jaylaan Wimbush on the other hand is not the next in line.
Deion Harris is the most hyped CB in the entire FCS aaaannnnd he’s gone. Tyus Carter was a starter to being last season before going down for the year with a shoulder injury. He’s back and will most likely start. Evan Holm is the fastest white boy of all time. Torrey Hunt is a crazy speed havin 6’1” smooth CB. Last year he either looked like an all American or an end zone escort. He was 5th on the team with 46 tackles 3 picks and 13 PBUs. If he finds consistency in his game for his sophomore season he will be an all American level player. Hayden Blubaugh has been running with the second team defense so far in fall camp. All reports are that he doesn’t look or act like a true fr. He will play a ton this year.
Advantage: NDSU due to the loss of Harris
S:
Cole Reyes is the best SS in the nation. He’s an open field tackling machine and has elite ball skills. He’s got it all. The big question in our defensive backfield is at FS. Chuck Flowers has been running with the 1’s so far. The senior was the backup FS last season and played a lot. Tamas Stewart is still a mystery. He came in from a JUCO in the spring but was injured the entire time. His film was really impressive but unless he sees the field at some point he might as well hang out with Bruce Willis and change his name to Elijah Price.
Tre Dempsy is a small ball hawking son of a bitch. I like how he plays. Robbie teh whipping boy Grimsely is the weakest strong safety in the game. He’s got elite ball skills though. His tackling still sucks but it has gotten better. That’s just not his thing. He’s a playmaker not a hitter. It’s tough for me to really even consider him a true SS. You guys basically have two FS back there which has plusses and negatives. James Hendricks has made a pretty impressive transition from QB. It reminds me of how Thorton transitioned to LB and made a huge impact.
Advantage: NDSU 2>1 even if the 1 is really really good.
Overall: NDSU – how can I not go with the greatest defensive unit of all time?
NDSU92
08-17-2017, 09:45 PM
Last year I noted that NDSU’s defense was beginning to slip from their torrid pace. It appears I was right. The yearly pts/game allowed by NDSU go like this: 18-12-11-11-14-15-16. Now I know, I know, this year NDSU will have teh greatest defense in history, ever, of all time. There’s just so much depth and speed all over the field that it makes me sick. I mean these guys are gooood. Just for fun I’ll show UND’s pts/game allowed over the last few years. This should be fun, for you guys. 34-33-26-25-22…. Those first two years in the Big Sky were pretty rough on the d…. like The Pain Olympics rough. By my calculations we should allow 18pts/game and NDSU should allow 2pts/game this season. Book it. It’s science.
DL:
When I look at NDSU’s DL I see quite a few guys that I wanted at UND pretty bad. Nate Tanguay is one of those guys. He’s a fucking prick and I love it. A real tone setter for the defense. He’s one of those DTs that blows up a play in the backfield a few times a game and celebrates like an ape. It’s contagious and you guys missed that in the playoffs last year. Greg Menards is my other guy I wanted bad aaannnnnnd he’s gone. So Caleb Butler is now the top returning sacker for teh bizuns…. So much for the greatest defense of all time. Steidl read my post last year no doubt and used it to set his goals for the year. You’re welcome. Stanley Jones is now going to have to be the man. Cole Karcz is apparently the x factor for this unit. Good for him. Throw in one time greatest commit ever Grant Morgan and the Tuzka boys and you’ve got yourself a deep DL unit.
Not so fast! UND is legitimately stacked and experienced on the DL. Jr. Tank Harris is the dancing bear in the middle. He plugs 2 gaps at a time all day long. Thanks to Tank our ILBs get to run free and make plays. SRs Brandon Dranka and Drew Greeley are back for their swan song. They started the DL renaissance at UND when they played as true FR. Both are high motor guys who are stout against the run. SO Mason Bennett is the future. He’s got elite burst and length. Look for him to have a monster year after a solid FR campaign. JR Austin Cieslak is a mammoth DE at 6’4” 300 lbs who can run. He absolutely dominates at times. If he can be consistent this year he will wreck offenses. Nick Schmitz, ever heard of him? Well this dude from Mekinock is country strong and tough as nails. Classic run stuffer. SO Carter Wilson is a little light, 235 lbs, but has elite quickness and hands. He’s another guy that is about to come in to his own this year.
Advantage: UND
LB:
UND graduated 3 starters from last year and the other had to retire due to a concussion sustained from a cheap shot. Fuck. On the bright side we sub like crazy on defense and went 3 deep last year. SO Donnel Rodgers is going to be a star. Blazing fast first step and a really heavy hitter. He’s a young man with a mustache and he’s not afraid to use it. SR Jake Disterhaupt has been a stud at OLB for the past two seasons and may be forced to move to ILB this season. This dude is FAST; he runs with the top group in the winter. He’s also tough and has a nose for the football. May be a little light for ILB but he’ll be fine. SO Jade Lawrence, the LB from Moorhead who NDSU was too errogant to offer, is, let’s say, a poor mans Travis Beck. He’s a really fast tackling machine. He’s also barely over 200lbs. Former safety Tanner Palmborg has moved down to OLB and he has turned some heads. Now for the freshman x factors. Ray Haas, 6’5” 220lbs. The word out of spring ball is that this dude is special. Supremely athletic, long, and great ball skills. By the end of the season I would not be the least bit surprised if he is starting. Also, word on the street is that true FR Noah Larson, 6’2” 230lbs, may just have his shirt pulled. This dude is carved out of stone and fast. Not your typical FR LB.
Time for my annual Nick DeLuca gush fest. He’s the best LB in the country. That was fun. Matt Plank is probably gonna start at ILB this year. He’s not bad. He’s not half the player DeLuca is inside but with graduation thinning the OLB spots NDSU is better off with DeLuca outside and Plank inside. Seems like just yesterday that Chris Board was supposed to be the best safety ever. Well he sucked at that and got moved to linebacker.... where he also sucked. I do hear that he's been hitting the weight like super hard and is looking positively ginormous. Good thing he sucks otherwise we'd all be fucked. Jabril Cox, on the other hand, is supposedly the truth. 6’3” and 230 is all you can ask for and he can run. Should be fun to watch him develop. Other than those guys it’s what? Levi Jordheim and Marlette? Basically you guys are pretty thin at LB.
Advantage: DeLuca – he’s just too good
CB:
Who are the 5 greatest cornerbacks on NDSU’s roster? Jalen, Jaylaan, Jealahn, Jayelawn, and Jaylon. Jalen Allison, is he the next great corner at NDSU? He very well could be. Has the size and better speed than Williams or Smith had. But he will need to step it up big time to get to that level. He’s got the talent to make it happen, but does he have “it”? We will see. I’m sure he does. Jaylaan Wimbush on the other hand is not the next in line.
Deion Harris is the most hyped CB in the entire FCS aaaannnnd he’s gone. Tyus Carter was a starter to being last season before going down for the year with a shoulder injury. He’s back and will most likely start. Evan Holm is the fastest white boy of all time. Torrey Hunt is a crazy speed havin 6’1” smooth CB. Last year he either looked like an all American or an end zone escort. He was 5th on the team with 46 tackles 3 picks and 13 PBUs. If he finds consistency in his game for his sophomore season he will be an all American level player. Hayden Blubaugh has been running with the second team defense so far in fall camp. All reports are that he doesn’t look or act like a true fr. He will play a ton this year.
Advantage: NDSU due to the loss of Harris
S:
Cole Reyes is the best SS in the nation. He’s an open field tackling machine and has elite ball skills. He’s got it all. The big question in our defensive backfield is at FS. Chuck Flowers has been running with the 1’s so far. The senior was the backup FS last season and played a lot. Tamas Stewart is still a mystery. He came in from a JUCO in the spring but was injured the entire time. His film was really impressive but unless he sees the field at some point he might as well hang out with Bruce Willis and change his name to Elijah Price.
Tre Dempsy is a small ball hawking son of a bitch. I like how he plays. Robbie teh whipping boy Grimsely is the weakest strong safety in the game. He’s got elite ball skills though. His tackling still sucks but it has gotten better. That’s just not his thing. He’s a playmaker not a hitter. It’s tough for me to really even consider him a true SS. You guys basically have two FS back there which has plusses and negatives. James Hendricks has made a pretty impressive transition from QB. It reminds me of how Thorton transitioned to LB and made a huge impact.
Advantage: NDSU 2>1 even if the 1 is really really good.
Overall: NDSU – how can I not go with the greatest defensive unit of all time?
Good thing I usually read BV on the toilet at work, or I would've had to change my pants seeing you pick UND's DLine over NDSU's. I love these
runtheoption
08-17-2017, 10:06 PM
Last year I noted....all time?
Have you done special teams yet? Tailgating? Intangibles?
thebigund
08-17-2017, 10:18 PM
Have you done special teams yet? Tailgating? Intangibles?
If I do those I will also have to do committees.
southcliffbison
08-17-2017, 10:34 PM
Have you done special teams yet? Tailgating? Intangibles?
Undie has difficulty with just the tangibles.......
Christopher Moen
08-17-2017, 11:19 PM
When he does one of these match-up comparisons and mentions one of his team's players, I end up asking myself the same question, "Wioux the f'hawk is this guy?"
Serious question though, why compare the same positions to each other? I'm pretty sure they don't ever play against one another once past high school. It drives me nuts when I see so-called experts do this all the time. The Brady vs. Manning part whatever was stupid. It's not like they were facing off against one other in a dance off.
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Honestly, the guy who won in those match-ups usually won because he had the better defense. Hence why both Brady and Manning should be taking dancing lessons from this guy:
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thebigund
08-18-2017, 03:45 AM
When he does one of these match-up comparisons and mentions one of his team's players, I end up asking myself the same question, "Wioux the f'hawk is this guy?"
Serious question though, why compare the same positions to each other? I'm pretty sure they don't ever play against one another once past high school. It drives me nuts when I see so-called experts do this all the time. The Brady vs. Manning part whatever was stupid. It's not like they were facing off against one other in a dance off.
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Honestly, the guy who won in those match-ups usually won because he had the better defense. Hence why both Brady and Manning should be taking dancing lessons from this guy:
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Quite simply because UND is finally better at certain spots on defense than teh almighty.
Christopher Moen
08-18-2017, 04:32 AM
Quite simply because UND is finally better at certain spots on defense than teh almighty.
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barnwintersportsengelstad
08-18-2017, 10:45 AM
Last year I noted that NDSU’s defense was beginning to slip from their torrid pace. It appears I was right. The yearly pts/game allowed by NDSU go like this: 18-12-11-11-14-15-16. Now I know, I know, this year NDSU will have teh greatest defense in history, ever, of all time. There’s just so much depth and speed all over the field that it makes me sick. I mean these guys are gooood. Just for fun I’ll show UND’s pts/game allowed over the last few years. This should be fun, for you guys. 34-33-26-25-22…. Those first two years in the Big Sky were pretty rough on the d…. like The Pain Olympics rough. By my calculations we should allow 18pts/game and NDSU should allow 2pts/game this season. Book it. It’s science.
DL:
When I look at NDSU’s DL I see quite a few guys that I wanted at UND pretty bad. Nate Tanguay is one of those guys. He’s a fucking prick and I love it. A real tone setter for the defense. He’s one of those DTs that blows up a play in the backfield a few times a game and celebrates like an ape. It’s contagious and you guys missed that in the playoffs last year. Greg Menards is my other guy I wanted bad aaannnnnnd he’s gone. So Caleb Butler is now the top returning sacker for teh bizuns…. So much for the greatest defense of all time. Steidl read my post last year no doubt and used it to set his goals for the year. You’re welcome. Stanley Jones is now going to have to be the man. Cole Karcz is apparently the x factor for this unit. Good for him. Throw in one time greatest commit ever Grant Morgan and the Tuzka boys and you’ve got yourself a deep DL unit.
Not so fast! UND is legitimately stacked and experienced on the DL. Jr. Tank Harris is the dancing bear in the middle. He plugs 2 gaps at a time all day long. Thanks to Tank our ILBs get to run free and make plays. SRs Brandon Dranka and Drew Greeley are back for their swan song. They started the DL renaissance at UND when they played as true FR. Both are high motor guys who are stout against the run. SO Mason Bennett is the future. He’s got elite burst and length. Look for him to have a monster year after a solid FR campaign. JR Austin Cieslak is a mammoth DE at 6’4” 300 lbs who can run. He absolutely dominates at times. If he can be consistent this year he will wreck offenses. Nick Schmitz, ever heard of him? Well this dude from Mekinock is country strong and tough as nails. Classic run stuffer. SO Carter Wilson is a little light, 235 lbs, but has elite quickness and hands. He’s another guy that is about to come in to his own this year.
Advantage: UND
LB:
UND graduated 3 starters from last year and the other had to retire due to a concussion sustained from a cheap shot. Fuck. On the bright side we sub like crazy on defense and went 3 deep last year. SO Donnel Rodgers is going to be a star. Blazing fast first step and a really heavy hitter. He’s a young man with a mustache and he’s not afraid to use it. SR Jake Disterhaupt has been a stud at OLB for the past two seasons and may be forced to move to ILB this season. This dude is FAST; he runs with the top group in the winter. He’s also tough and has a nose for the football. May be a little light for ILB but he’ll be fine. SO Jade Lawrence, the LB from Moorhead who NDSU was too errogant to offer, is, let’s say, a poor mans Travis Beck. He’s a really fast tackling machine. He’s also barely over 200lbs. Former safety Tanner Palmborg has moved down to OLB and he has turned some heads. Now for the freshman x factors. Ray Haas, 6’5” 220lbs. The word out of spring ball is that this dude is special. Supremely athletic, long, and great ball skills. By the end of the season I would not be the least bit surprised if he is starting. Also, word on the street is that true FR Noah Larson, 6’2” 230lbs, may just have his shirt pulled. This dude is carved out of stone and fast. Not your typical FR LB.
Time for my annual Nick DeLuca gush fest. He’s the best LB in the country. That was fun. Matt Plank is probably gonna start at ILB this year. He’s not bad. He’s not half the player DeLuca is inside but with graduation thinning the OLB spots NDSU is better off with DeLuca outside and Plank inside. Seems like just yesterday that Chris Board was supposed to be the best safety ever. Well he sucked at that and got moved to linebacker.... where he also sucked. I do hear that he's been hitting the weight like super hard and is looking positively ginormous. Good thing he sucks otherwise we'd all be fucked. Jabril Cox, on the other hand, is supposedly the truth. 6’3” and 230 is all you can ask for and he can run. Should be fun to watch him develop. Other than those guys it’s what? Levi Jordheim and Marlette? Basically you guys are pretty thin at LB.
Advantage: DeLuca – he’s just too good
CB:
Who are the 5 greatest cornerbacks on NDSU’s roster? Jalen, Jaylaan, Jealahn, Jayelawn, and Jaylon. Jalen Allison, is he the next great corner at NDSU? He very well could be. Has the size and better speed than Williams or Smith had. But he will need to step it up big time to get to that level. He’s got the talent to make it happen, but does he have “it”? We will see. I’m sure he does. Jaylaan Wimbush on the other hand is not the next in line.
Deion Harris is the most hyped CB in the entire FCS aaaannnnd he’s gone. Tyus Carter was a starter to being last season before going down for the year with a shoulder injury. He’s back and will most likely start. Evan Holm is the fastest white boy of all time. Torrey Hunt is a crazy speed havin 6’1” smooth CB. Last year he either looked like an all American or an end zone escort. He was 5th on the team with 46 tackles 3 picks and 13 PBUs. If he finds consistency in his game for his sophomore season he will be an all American level player. Hayden Blubaugh has been running with the second team defense so far in fall camp. All reports are that he doesn’t look or act like a true fr. He will play a ton this year.
Advantage: NDSU due to the loss of Harris
S:
Cole Reyes is the best SS in the nation. He’s an open field tackling machine and has elite ball skills. He’s got it all. The big question in our defensive backfield is at FS. Chuck Flowers has been running with the 1’s so far. The senior was the backup FS last season and played a lot. Tamas Stewart is still a mystery. He came in from a JUCO in the spring but was injured the entire time. His film was really impressive but unless he sees the field at some point he might as well hang out with Bruce Willis and change his name to Elijah Price.
Tre Dempsy is a small ball hawking son of a bitch. I like how he plays. Robbie teh whipping boy Grimsely is the weakest strong safety in the game. He’s got elite ball skills though. His tackling still sucks but it has gotten better. That’s just not his thing. He’s a playmaker not a hitter. It’s tough for me to really even consider him a true SS. You guys basically have two FS back there which has plusses and negatives. James Hendricks has made a pretty impressive transition from QB. It reminds me of how Thorton transitioned to LB and made a huge impact.
Advantage: NDSU 2>1 even if the 1 is really really good.
Overall: NDSU – how can I not go with the greatest defensive unit of all time?
thebigund, I noticed you used the word slip in your first sentence, one of my farvorites. They will do that more and more often this year.
Another good report. Had to laugh one of their boys sh$t reading this, what a fan base. When they slip and slide, these boys are going to cry!
Bison Dan
08-18-2017, 12:41 PM
thebigund, I noticed you used the word slip in your first sentence, one of my farvorites. They will do that more and more often this year.
Another good report. Had to laugh one of their boys sh$t reading this, what a fan base. When they slip and slide, these boys are going to cry!The only teams that slip are your hockey (all ready did) and fb team. BSC is a joke as the playoffs proved!!
Bison Dan
08-18-2017, 01:26 PM
Good thing I usually read BV on the toilet at work, or I would've had to change my pants seeing you pick UND's DLine over NDSU's. I love these
Who have they played?? A shitty MAC team that they lost to. When Weber and SUU are the top teams in the BSC what's that tell you.
thebigund
08-18-2017, 01:36 PM
Who have they played?? A shitty MAC team that they lost to. When Weber and SUU are the top teams in the BSC what's that tell you.
Oh simple dan, you know so much and we know so little. Haven't seen you at the HYB in a while. What gives?
El_Chapo
08-18-2017, 02:01 PM
how are these ASSHOLES allowed to post this crap, yet im banned? freakin joke.
siouxfan512
08-18-2017, 02:34 PM
Who have they played?? A shitty MAC team that they lost to. When Weber and SUU are the top teams in the BSC what's that tell you.
That its time to move to the MVFC?!?! :)
Bison Dan
08-18-2017, 02:47 PM
Oh simple dan, you know so much and we know so little. Haven't seen you at the HYB in a while. What gives?
Sorry bigturd but as usual you don't have a good answer to "who have you beaten"
thebigund
08-18-2017, 02:55 PM
Sorry bigturd but as usual you don't have a good answer to "who have you beaten"
We beat the top teams in our conference minus EWU. In case you missed it the team the finished 5th in the Big Fluff beat the team that tied for 1st in the Mighty Valley on the road last year.
Mayville Bison
08-18-2017, 03:14 PM
We beat the top teams in our conference minus EWU. In case you missed it the team the finished 5th in the Big Fluff beat the team that tied for 1st in the Mighty Valley on the road last year.
They also lost to the Pioneer Champs in the playoffs. Something no one has ever said until last year
Scooter1
08-18-2017, 03:17 PM
They also lost to the Pioneer Champs in the playoffs. Something no one has ever said until last year
Well...yeah....but hockey. Shit. Damn facts.
thebigund
08-18-2017, 03:27 PM
They also lost to the Pioneer Champs in the playoffs. Something no one has ever said until last year
So you're saying the king of the MVFC couldn't, at home, beat a team who lost to a Pioneer league team?
Bisonator98
08-18-2017, 03:28 PM
They also lost to the Pioneer Champs in the playoffs. Something no one has ever said until last year
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Mayville Bison
08-18-2017, 03:31 PM
So you're saying the king of the MVFC couldn't, at home, beat a team who lost to a Pioneer league team?
You completely missed the point. I was obviously saying a team hosting their first ever D1 playoff game shouldn't piss away a 17 point lead with 16 minutes left.
Son of a Bison
08-18-2017, 03:36 PM
Sorry bigturd but as usual you don't have a good answer to "who have you beaten"
Obvious answer - himself.
thebigund
08-18-2017, 04:11 PM
You completely missed the point. I was obviously saying a team hosting their first ever D1 playoff game shouldn't piss away a 17 point lead with 16 minutes left.
Nice try but no, the original post was saying UND didn't beat anyone good. Tough to omit the fact that the best team in the valley lost to the 5th best team from the fluff at home.
Mr. Burgundy
08-18-2017, 04:59 PM
That its time to move to the MVFC?!?! :)
That is good. Great humor. I think it will slowly happen. UND fans will start to realize how inferior the Big Sky competition is when compared to the week to week grind of the Valley. There are no easy wins in the Missouri Valley. A team like USD can beat you. Will be entertaining every week. I think SDSU is overrated personally right now. THey are loaded on offense, but can they stop anyone? I think they slip up looking at some press clippings.
Christopher Moen
08-18-2017, 05:17 PM
Nice try but no, the original post was saying UND didn't beat anyone good. Tough to omit the fact that the best team in the valley lost to the 5th best team from the fluff at home.
That's because UND didn't beat anyone good, and no, SDSU wasn't the best team in the MVFC last year - the playoffs proved that last season.
To reprove my point about UND not beating anyone good, I'll repost my point that UND couldn't "hypothetically" beat EWU last year from another thread:
No need to pretend, EWU would have destroyed the F'Hawkers last year. You don't want to compare EWU's results with UND because it doesn't favor UND at all, regardless how "hypothetical."
EWU Results [Final rankings are from Massey Ratings (http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm)]:
Game #1: Defeated Washington State 45-42. WSU finished 8-5 and ranked #28 in the FBS.
Game #2: Lost to NDSU 50-44 O.T. NDSU finished 12-2 and ranked #2 in the FCS.
Game #3: Defeated UNI 34-30. UNI finished 5-6 and ranked #17 in the FCS.
Game #4: Defeated Northern Arizona 50-35. NAU finished 5-6 and ranked #40 in the FCS. (+15)
Game #5: Defeated UC Davis 63-30. UC Davis finished 3-8 and ranked #80 in the FCS.
Game #6: Defeated Northern Colorado 49-31. UNC finished 6-5 and ranked #49 in the FCS. (+18)
Game #7: Defeated Montana State 41-17. MSU finished 4-7 and ranked #63 in the FCS. (+24)
Game #8: Defeated Montana 35-16. UM finished 6-5 and ranked #31 in the FCS.
Game #9: Defeated Cal Poly 42-21. Cal Poly finished 7-5 and ranked #24 in the FCS. (+21)
Game #10: Defeated Idaho State 48-17. ISU finished 2-9 and ranked #94 in the FCS. (+31)
Game #11: Defeated Portland State 35-28. PSU finished 3-8 and ranked #66 in the FCS.
Playoff R16: Defeated Central Arkansas 48-17. UCA finished 10-3 and ranked #11 in the FCS.
Playoff QF: Defeated Richmond 38-0. Richmond finished 10-4 and ranked #13 in the FCS. (+38)
Playoff SF: Lost to Youngstown State 40-38. YSU finished 12-4 and ranked #4 in the FCS.
UND Results:
Game #1: Lost to Stony Brook 13-9. SB finished 5-6 and ranked #50 in the FCS.
Game #2: Lost to Bowling Green 27-26. BG finished 4-8 and ranked #108 in the FBS.
Game #3: Defeated USD 47-44 O.T. USD finished 4-7 and ranked #29 in the FCS.
Game #4: Defeated Montana State 17-15. MSU finished 4-7 and ranked #63 in the FCS. (+2)
Game #5: Defeated Cal Poly 31-24. Cal Poly finished 7-5 and ranked #24 in the FCS. (+7)
Game #6: Defeated Sacramento State 40-7. Sac St finished 2-9 and ranked #101 in the FCS.
Game #7: Defeated Southern Utah 45-23. SUU finished 6-5 and ranked #27 in the FCS.
Game #8: Defeated Idaho State 28-21. ISU finished 2-9 and ranked #94 in the FCS. (+7)
Game #9: Defeated Weber State 27-19. WSU finished 6-5 and ranked #36 in the FCS.
Game #10: Defeated Northern Colorado 23-13. UNC finished 6-5 and ranked #49 in the FCS. (+10)
Game #11: Defeated Northern Arizona 38-31. NAU finished 5-6 and ranked #40 in the FCS. (+7)
Playoff R16: Lost to Richmond 27-24. Richmond finished 10-4 and ranked #13 in the FCS. (-3)
Not sure what "data" you can provide that would show that UND could play with EWU, let alone win.
You f'hawkers can talk all you want about beating the top so and so teams in your conference, but when those so and so teams are still terrible (according to Massey), you're not helping the Big Sky Conference as being a tough conference last year. Maybe that's why the absolute best team in the Big Sky Conference lost to the third best MFVC team at home in the playoffs last year.
Bisonator98
08-18-2017, 05:31 PM
The fawkers lost to friggin Stony Brook, Bowling Green and Richmonds backups last year. Think about that, they fricking lost to a bunch of second stringers!:rofl:
This mythical 2017 PO matchup is never going to happen. Big undies and the rest of you fawkers can go back to the HYB and continue pining away for Grady to come back. I always....:biggrin:
Mayville Bison
08-18-2017, 07:27 PM
Nice try but no, the original post was saying UND didn't beat anyone good. Tough to omit the fact that the best team in the valley lost to the 5th best team from the fluff at home.
And how does SDSU/CalPoly have anything to do UND not beating anyone good? At least mine referenced the only team UND played that won a playoff game.
IzzyFlexion
08-18-2017, 07:40 PM
Have you done special teams yet? Tailgating? Intangibles?
He is waiting for additional state funding.
cbline
08-18-2017, 07:51 PM
He is waiting for additional committee reports.
Fixed it for you.
MNLonghorn10
08-18-2017, 08:17 PM
some how, NDSU loses the same amount in 2016 as they did in 2015 and they're considered a slip...UND goes from 4 wins to 7 wins to 8 wins and theyre taking over position battles vs NDSU?
NDSU is regarded as a top 40 program in the country. Probably would be higher if they had scholarships to play with.
UND is probably about 140. Maybe lower since their Cinderella run last year to a first round bye and losing at home to a shitty Richmond team.
Nobody has ever heard of your DT's. Or is anybody jealous of them and how they plug 2 gaps. Good job, theyre fat.
thebigund
08-18-2017, 08:26 PM
And how does SDSU/CalPoly have anything to do UND not beating anyone good? At least mine referenced the only team UND played that won a playoff game.
You see, Cal Poly was a good team, better than the MVFC champs. They just couldn't handle the every week grind of the Big Sky
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-21-2017, 01:35 AM
some how, NDSU loses the same amount in 2016 as they did in 2015 and they're considered a slip...UND goes from 4 wins to 7 wins to 8 wins and theyre taking over position battles vs NDSU?
NDSU is regarded as a top 40 program in the country. Probably would be higher if they had scholarships to play with.
UND is probably about 140. Maybe lower since their Cinderella run last year to a first round bye and losing at home to a shitty Richmond team.
Nobody has ever heard of your DT's. Or is anybody jealous of them and how they plug 2 gaps. Good job, theyre fat.
I like how you all are using the work slip, preparing yourselves for the season ahead!!!
DePereBisonFan
08-21-2017, 01:44 AM
I look forward to these yearly installments. Maybe the big und is being funny, or maybe he's being serious. Either way, I like the side by side analysis. And he's right - RJ peaked early on in his college career (I'm thinking his best game was against ISUr in the National Championship game), and UND's backfield does look pretty impressive. I do wish JJ had come to NDSU, if no other reason than to keep that Fargo crowd undivided.
His analysis wouldn't matter except that our defense looked lost against JMU, and we lost the 4th quarter for the first time in 5 years. But still hopefully come December, UND will be matched up with SDSU with the winner playing a Big Sky team.
SDSUAlum08
08-21-2017, 03:12 AM
That is good. Great humor. I think it will slowly happen. UND fans will start to realize how inferior the Big Sky competition is when compared to the week to week grind of the Valley. There are no easy wins in the Missouri Valley. A team like USD can beat you. Will be entertaining every week. I think SDSU is overrated personally right now. THey are loaded on offense, but can they stop anyone? I think they slip up looking at some press clippings.
I think you're right. They'll go as far as their defense can take them.
MNLonghorn10
08-21-2017, 03:21 AM
I like how you all are using the work slip, preparing yourselves for the season ahead!!!
so when NDSU loses 1 game this year, and wins another natty, is that a bounce back or status quo?
EndZoneQB
08-21-2017, 01:52 PM
I think you're right. They'll go as far as their defense can take them.
The old adage applies here: Offense scores points, defense wins championships.
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-21-2017, 02:07 PM
so when NDSU loses 1 game this year, and wins another natty, is that a bounce back or status quo?
So when NDSU slips 1 game, that increases the odds for another slip, then slips again, is that then a status quo or slip and slide?
aces1180
08-21-2017, 03:04 PM
So when NDSU slips 1 game, that increases the odds for another slip, then slips again, is that then a status quo or slip and slide?
So from what I have read from the majority of your posts on this subject, the only way UND will reach NDSU's level is if the Bison slip...Got it!
Bison 4 Life
08-21-2017, 03:22 PM
So from what I have read from the majority of your posts on this subject, the only way UND will reach NDSU's level is if the Bison slip...Got it!
That's how they got their only championship. So yeah
El_Chapo
08-21-2017, 04:17 PM
im banned. but crap threads like this and other und ones keep going. how embarassing for bisonville and all of you.
MNLonghorn10
08-21-2017, 04:38 PM
So when NDSU slips 1 game, that increases the odds for another slip, then slips again, is that then a status quo or slip and slide?Ndsu lost twice last year...the same amount of games they lost in 15 but won a championship...im wondering how that means they're slipping?
56BISON73
08-21-2017, 05:12 PM
Ndsu lost twice last year...the same amount of games they lost in 15 but won a championship...im wondering how that means they're slipping?
They have been praying we will slip so they can catch up. Why dont they worry about getting better. Thats what winner do.
aces1180
08-21-2017, 05:30 PM
They have been praying we will slip so they can catch up. Why dont they worry about getting better. Thats what winner do.
Because they are pussies, not winners.
Christopher Moen
08-21-2017, 05:39 PM
The only thing F'hawkers know about slips are the ones they wear.
Comparing schedules last year, the F'hawkers' FCS competition went 57-68 and their G5 lost was against a team that finished 4-8. Their best victory was against a team that finished 7-5.
NDSU, on the other hand, had their FCS competition go 102-59 and also had a victory over a P5 team that finished 8-5.
In my opinion, the F'hawkers really are not improving as much as they think they are and their record proves it, especially when you consider how close they were in games against bad to terrible teams. This year, I expect a few of those close games to go the other way now that the F'hawkers have a target on their back. This is why I see them finishing with about five wins this year.
garbageman
08-21-2017, 06:32 PM
The only thing F'hawkers know about slips are the ones they wear.
Comparing schedules last year, the F'hawkers' FCS competition went 57-68 and their G5 lost was against a team that finished 4-8. Their best victory was against a team that finished 7-5.
NDSU, on the other hand, had their FCS competition go 102-59 and also had a victory over a P5 team that finished 8-5.
In my opinion, the F'hawkers really are not improving as much as they think they are and their record proves it, especially when you consider how close they were in games against bad to terrible teams. This year, I expect a few of those close games to go the other way now that the F'hawkers have a target on their back. This is why I see them finishing with about five wins this year.
Ya but they have Elmer Fud for a coach they have to be getting better
Bisonator98
08-21-2017, 06:39 PM
Ya but they have Gilligan for a coach they have to be getting better
FIFY
http://www.wday.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_860/public/field/image/Bubba_6.jpg?itok=JNAuICda
Christopher Moen
08-21-2017, 06:44 PM
FIFY
http://www.wday.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_860/public/field/image/Bubba_6.jpg?itok=JNAuICda
What the f'hawk!
Milkman
08-21-2017, 06:56 PM
FIFY
http://www.wday.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_860/public/field/image/Bubba_6.jpg?itok=JNAuICda
https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/coach-klein.jpg?quality=100&w=650
totoinfl
08-21-2017, 07:24 PM
7831
This might be closer...judging from the F'hawkers cheerleaders
IzzyFlexion
08-21-2017, 09:23 PM
What the f'hawk!
http://www.wday.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_860/public/field/image/Bubba_6.jpg?itok=JNAuICda
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/94/43/9e/94439e32c7e32f21a4c16f0b5bba2b66--bill-meme-bill-obrien.jpg
thebigund
08-21-2017, 11:39 PM
So when NDSU slips 1 game, that increases the odds for another slip, then slips again, is that then a status quo or slip and slide?
Because they are pussies, not winners.
Actually very few want NDSU to slip. I and a strong majority of other UND fans want to take down NDSU when they are at their best.
Mr Meaty
08-22-2017, 01:08 AM
Actually very few want NDSU to slip. I and a strong majority of other UND fans want to take down NDSU when they are at their best.
Somehow I believe you are in a very small group that feel that way.
KilldeerBison
08-22-2017, 02:12 AM
Actually very few want NDSU to slip. I and a strong majority of other UND fans want to take down NDSU when they are at their best.
And this is why the Bison get every opponent's "A" game. Get in line, might want to bring your tent along, it's a very long line.
Hammerhead
08-22-2017, 02:51 AM
Some year they will make if off the island. :)
https://metvnetwork.s3.amazonaws.com/qRNC6-1457728234-2467-list_items-gilligan.jpg
http://www.wday.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_860/public/field/image/Bubba_6.jpg?itok=JNAuICda
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/94/43/9e/94439e32c7e32f21a4c16f0b5bba2b66--bill-meme-bill-obrien.jpg
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-22-2017, 04:45 AM
So from what I have read from the majority of your posts on this subject, the only way UND will reach NDSU's level is if the Bison slip...Got it!
Don't fool yourself, UND is improving! and so are the SD's.
Scooter1
08-22-2017, 04:54 AM
Don't fool yourself, UND is improving! and so are the SD's.
So...I have to chant "Hawks kind of suck?" Congrats on that.
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-22-2017, 04:54 AM
JM rah rah coach had his players all pumped up for first game last year.
Had them at the top of their game at end of season. That's the team to beat.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/15/james-madison-repeat-expectations-matt-houston/560269001/
Mr. Burgundy
08-22-2017, 11:31 AM
NDSU worrying about week 1. UND worrying about NDSU. UND must beat USD or they will struggle to get in the playoffs with no quality wins.
wagsabison
08-22-2017, 12:04 PM
JM rah rah coach had his players all pumped up for first game last year.
Had them at the top of their game at end of season. That's the team to beat.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2017/08/15/james-madison-repeat-expectations-matt-houston/560269001/
As they should be the team to beat.
thebigund
08-22-2017, 12:59 PM
NDSU worrying about week 1. UND worrying about NDSU. UND must beat USD or they will struggle to get in the playoffs with no quality wins.
Pretty sure UND is concerned with the 400lb Samoans they're about to face.
aces1180
08-22-2017, 01:08 PM
Don't fool yourself, UND is improving! and so are the SD's.
But you keep saying NDSU is slipping...You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Typical.
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-22-2017, 01:41 PM
But you keep saying NDSU is slipping...You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Typical.
See JM !?!
Bison Loaf
08-22-2017, 01:57 PM
FIFY
http://www.wday.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_860/public/field/image/Bubba_6.jpg?itok=JNAuICda
Some year they will make if off the island. :)
https://metvnetwork.s3.amazonaws.com/qRNC6-1457728234-2467-list_items-gilligan.jpg
Maybe this belongs in the TV Show thread, I don't know. :confused: :biggrin: Oh well, I'll just leave it here I guess.
Popcorn Show Isle
(Show Opening Verse)
Just sit right back
and you'll hear a tale,
a tale of a fateful trip,
that started from this wasted heap,
their loonies call "flagship".
My Lord! They say "flagship"! :rofl:
They thought of themselves as something big,
because they have a rink,
until their rival left the coop,
and backers raised a stink!
"We must follow or we sink".
But their problems started getting worse,
Their precious "Sioux" was lost.
When Muss got beat by ol' Sioux Falls
their cookies they did toss.
their cookies they did toss.
The "ship's" now stuck on the shore of this
uncharted losers isle
With Bubba boy,
And Mark K too.
Finger flippers and their wives,
A helmut car,
Some professors that surf the web,
Here on Popcorn Show Isle!
(Show Ending Verse)
So this was the tale of our throwaways,
In hell for a long, long time.
They'll have to make the best of things,
It's an uphill climb.
Next week what will we find?
But Bubba and ol' Mark K, too,
Will do their very best,
To make the others comfortable
In this Fawkers self-made mess.
Pray the Bison "slip", that's best.
No wins, no fans, no sold out games,
Not a tailgate worth a see
Like Morningside or D3 teams
It's primitive as can be.
They're in Grand Forks! Don't you see?!
So join us here each week my friends,
You're sure to get a smile,
where arrogance means comedy
Here on Popcorn Show Isle!
Bisonator98
08-22-2017, 02:00 PM
Maybe this belongs in the TV Show thread, I don't know. :confused: :biggrin: Oh well, I'll just leave it here I guess.
Popcorn Show Isle
(Show Opening Verse)
Just sit right back
and you'll hear a tale,
a tale of a fateful trip,
that started from this wasted heap,
their loonies call "flagship".
My Lord! They say "flagship"! :rofl:
They thought of themselves as something big,
because they have a rink,
until their rival left the coop,
and backers raised a stink!
"We must follow or we sink".
But their problems started getting worse,
Their precious "Sioux" was lost.
When Muss got beat by ol' Sioux Falls
their cookies they did toss.
their cookies they did toss.
The "ship's" now stuck on the shore of this
uncharted losers isle
With Bubba boy,
And Mark K too.
Finger flippers and their wives,
A helmut car,
Some professors that surf the web,
Here on Popcorn Show Isle!
(Show Ending Verse)
So this was the tale of our throwaways,
In hell for a long, long time.
They'll have to make the best of things,
It's an uphill climb.
Next week what will we find?
But Bubba and ol' Mark K, too,
Will do their very best,
To make the others comfortable
In this Fawkers self-made mess.
Pray the Bison "slip", that's best.
No wins, no fans, no sold out games,
Not a tailgate worth a see
Like Morningside or D3 teams
It's primitive as can be.
They're in Grand Forks! Don't you see?!
So join us here each week my friends,
You're sure to get a smile,
where arrogance means comedy
Here on Popcorn Show Isle!
:judges::judges:
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-22-2017, 02:19 PM
That's pretty good Bison Loaf.
You bring up a wide range of points, have some talent there.
Can't wait for 2020 @ the Hawk's Nest.
MNLonghorn10
08-22-2017, 02:22 PM
Pretty sure UND is concerned with the 400lb Samoans they're about to face.There's no excuse, if ndsu can beat a ranked fbs team, sure as shit und can.
ByeSonBusiness
08-22-2017, 02:29 PM
That's pretty good Bison Loaf.
You bring up a wide range of points, have some talent there.
Can't wait for 2020 @ the Hawk's Nest.
I look forward to the MVFC sending the flagship to NDSU again in 2020. If I was NDSU, i may have even put that as a condition of voting them into the conference.
Bisonator98
08-22-2017, 02:32 PM
I look forward to the MVFC sending the flagship to NDSU again in 2020. If I was NDSU, i may have even put that as a condition of voting them into the conference.
Better yet, play in Fargo in 2020 and then rotate them out of our schedule for 3 years!:biggrin:
thebigund
08-22-2017, 02:54 PM
There's no excuse, if ndsu can beat a ranked fbs team, sure as shit und can.
Not sure where I made an excuse. This game will be the litmus test for if we're ready to take the next step or not.
Bisonator98
08-22-2017, 02:58 PM
Not sure where I made an excuse. This game will be the litmus test for if we're ready to take the next step or not.
Lol you guys are going to get your asses handed to you.
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-22-2017, 03:05 PM
Lol you guys are going to get your asses handed to you.
Not so fast, this could be a good game for 3 quarters? It's only a week and 2 days away.
aces1180
08-22-2017, 03:05 PM
See JM !?!
Please tell me how losing to the eventual national champions is a slip...Seriously, I want to know how that is considered a slip.
wagsabison
08-22-2017, 03:08 PM
Please tell me how losing to the eventual national champions is a slip...Seriously, I want to know how that is considered a slip.
He's a troll... "ndsu is slipping" & "ndsu is playing at the hawk's nest in 2020". Same stuff different day.
Bisonator98
08-22-2017, 03:08 PM
Please tell me how losing to the eventual national champions is a slip...Seriously, I want to know how that is considered a slip.
We didn't 6peat. #slippage
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-22-2017, 03:09 PM
Please tell me how losing to the eventual national champions is a slip...Seriously, I want to know how that is considered a slip.
Your first slip was SDSU. Many Bizon fans talking #6, that never materialized. JM rah rah coach out coached the team that lost and may I add, in the Dome.
aces1180
08-22-2017, 03:13 PM
He's a troll... "ndsu is slipping" & "ndsu is playing at the hawk's nest in 2020". Same stuff different day.
Oh I know...He keeps repeating the same shit and hoping it sticks.
I'm not sure who is more of an idiot, he or Darrel. I'll call it a push.
Milkman
08-22-2017, 03:20 PM
Oh I know...He keeps repeating the same shit and hoping it sticks.
I'm not sure who is more of an idiot, he or Darrel. I'll call it a push.
Have you ever seen Darrel and barnboy in the same room at the same time???
https://media.tenor.com/images/f13a71af50a1edf19aa3ef3621eb01b8/tenor.gif
Bisonator98
08-22-2017, 03:25 PM
barn winter sports? I don't even want to know!:facepalm:
ByeSonBusiness
08-22-2017, 03:29 PM
Your first slip was SDSU. Many Bizon fans talking #6, that never materialized. JM rah rah coach out coached the team that lost and may I add, in the Dome.
Yep. They slipped against SDSU and then beat them so bad in the playoffs that I can't tell ya the score because we left early.
Mr. Burgundy
08-22-2017, 05:02 PM
Yep. They slipped against SDSU and then beat them so bad in the playoffs that I can't tell ya the score because we left early.
I will help you with the score. It was 10-0 SDSU after they scored on Jason Eck's trick play. After his celebration dance, the Bison ran off 36 straight points. They have continued to beat Jason in recruiting since then. I think we are officially running up the score now. #motivation #dontdance #actlikeyouhavebeentherebefore
ByeSonBusiness
08-22-2017, 05:34 PM
I will help you with the score. It was 10-0 SDSU after they scored on Jason Eck's trick play. After his celebration dance, the Bison ran off 36 straight points. They have continued to beat Jason in recruiting since then. I think we are officially running up the score now. #motivation #dontdance #actlikeyouhavebeentherebefore
Thanks Ron! Much appreciated. The only slipping I really saw last year that I can remember was a really big 2nd half lead in the Alerus Center.
Christopher Moen
08-22-2017, 05:43 PM
Your first slip was SDSU. Many Bizon fans talking #6, that never materialized. JM rah rah coach out coached the team that lost and may I add, in the Dome.
For a guy/gal who loves a Hitler-loving, Nazi sympathizer, your smack is nothing but weak sauce. SDSU was the first "slip?" How is that last second lost any different than the other loses NDSU has had the previous seasons that weren't 2013?
USD and Montana were all lost on pretty much the last second in 2015. In 2014, UNI was a big lost and a game Wentz shouldn't have played after getting hurt late in the game the previous week against they Jackrabbits. In 2012, nobody can forget spotting the mighty Sycamores two pick sixes. In 2011, well, the Penguins got us after the defense had a bad, first-quarter game and the offense couldn't capitalize at all in the fourth. Dropping a head-scratching game at least once a year is a common trend for the Championship-caliber Bison.
So no, losing to SDSU was not a "slip," especially considering NDSU was still the number one seed come playoffs. In other words, it had no negative affect on the team (it gave them a positive one come playoffs though). The only things you can base any type of "slip" on in regards to NDSU are the injuries to our QB and two future NFL defensive players during the season and a stubborn OC. While the injuries are part of the game, the OC issue left town. So no, no slippage.
However, no need to worry about seeing what a "slip" looks like. Your beloved team will be doing that this year as they "slip" back to where they belong - mediocrity.
Bisonfanatical
08-23-2017, 12:25 AM
Maybe this belongs in the TV Show thread, I don't know. :confused: [emoji3] Oh well, I'll just leave it here I guess.
Popcorn Show Isle
(Show Opening Verse)
Just sit right back
and you'll hear a tale,
a tale of a fateful trip,
that started from this wasted heap,
their loonies call "flagship".
My Lord! They say "flagship"! :rofl:
They thought of themselves as something big,
because they have a rink,
until their rival left the coop,
and backers raised a stink!
"We must follow or we sink".
But their problems started getting worse,
Their precious "Sioux" was lost.
When Muss got beat by ol' Sioux Falls
their cookies they did toss.
their cookies they did toss.
The "ship's" now stuck on the shore of this
uncharted losers isle
With Bubba boy,
And Mark K too.
Finger flippers and their wives,
A helmut car,
Some professors that surf the web,
Here on Popcorn Show Isle!
(Show Ending Verse)
So this was the tale of our throwaways,
In hell for a long, long time.
They'll have to make the best of things,
It's an uphill climb.
Next week what will we find?
But Bubba and ol' Mark K, too,
Will do their very best,
To make the others comfortable
In this Fawkers self-made mess.
Pray the Bison "slip", that's best.
No wins, no fans, no sold out games,
Not a tailgate worth a see
Like Morningside or D3 teams
It's primitive as can be.
They're in Grand Forks! Don't you see?!
So join us here each week my friends,
You're sure to get a smile,
where arrogance means comedy
Here on Popcorn Show Isle!Wow ... I think I see some talent here ... works for me!
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
thebigund
08-23-2017, 12:58 AM
Have you ever seen Darrel and barnboy in the same room at the same time???
https://media.tenor.com/images/f13a71af50a1edf19aa3ef3621eb01b8/tenor.gif
Remember when you morans thought I was teh Darryls? That was hilarious and insulting.
Mr. Burgundy
08-23-2017, 01:10 AM
Geaux Sioux doesn't work at target and his wife doesn't love NDSU.
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-23-2017, 01:44 AM
For a guy/gal who loves a Hitler-loving, Nazi sympathizer, your smack is nothing but weak sauce. SDSU was the first "slip?" How is that last second lost any different than the other loses NDSU has had the previous seasons that weren't 2013?
USD and Montana were all lost on pretty much the last second in 2015. In 2014, UNI was a big lost and a game Wentz shouldn't have played after getting hurt late in the game the previous week against they Jackrabbits. In 2012, nobody can forget spotting the mighty Sycamores two pick sixes. In 2011, well, the Penguins got us after the defense had a bad, first-quarter game and the offense couldn't capitalize at all in the fourth. Dropping a head-scratching game at least once a year is a common trend for the Championship-caliber Bison.
So no, losing to SDSU was not a "slip," especially considering NDSU was still the number one seed come playoffs. In other words, it had no negative affect on the team (it gave them a positive one come playoffs though). The only things you can base any type of "slip" on in regards to NDSU are the injuries to our QB and two future NFL defensive players during the season and a stubborn OC. While the injuries are part of the game, the OC issue left town. So no, no slippage.
However, no need to worry about seeing what a "slip" looks like. Your beloved team will be doing that this year as they "slip" back to where they belong - mediocrity.
As of late, you absolutely had some great teams and lost some close games. You also won some close games in the run.
Last 2 years, things began to and did change.
Where was the JM game at? Why? Ratings.
Were the ratings wrong, and if so, should have the game been at JM?
mtoutfitter
08-23-2017, 01:55 AM
As of late, you absolutely had some great teams and lost some close games. You also won some close games in the run.
Last 2 years, things began to and did change.
Where was the JM game at? Why? Ratings.
Were the ratings wrong, and if so, should have the game been at JM?
He must mean TV ratings....something the Siouxucks FB team has never experienced!
Christopher Moen
08-23-2017, 02:33 AM
As of late, you absolutely had some great teams and lost some close games. You also won some close games in the run.
Last 2 years, things began to and did change.
Where was the JM game at? Why? Ratings.
Were the ratings wrong, and if so, should have the game been at JM?
The biggest change last year was not having an injury happen to one major, important playmaker, but instead, several major, important playmakers. JMU doesn't win if Tanguay, DeLuca and Easton are healthy. It might be a blow-out if all three were healthy.
Ratings? I'm guessing you meant rankings. During the run, NDSU didn't always get seeded #1, but I believe were always in the top three. No change there. Why were the Bison ranked #1? Easy. They had one lost to team that beat them at the last second. That team would also be a playoff team. Plus, NDSU arguably had the toughest schedule among the teams in the top-five. This included a victory over #2 EWU and also a big-time victory over an undefeated Iowa team that had participated in the previous year's Rose Bowl. Pretty hard to argue a #1 ranking come playoff time.
Why was JMU ranked #4. Probably because the CAA doesn't hold the esteem it once did and the blow-out lost to North Carolina looked pretty bad on their resume when comparing one-lost records to EWU and arguably Jacksonville State. JSU probably got #3 based on them being in the Championship game and JMU getting beat at home by Colgate in the previous playoff.
Therefore, no evidence of a "slip." NDSU is still a super strong contender for the NCAA Division I Championship Trophy.
Your school, on the other hand, is only a Big Sky contender on paper. Reality is about to hit you guys/gals like a Mack truck. Just wait until 2020, when that Mack truck smack happens on a weekly basis. Sorry, Bubba isn't a Bohl and I doubt you guys/gals are going to be able to attract enough horses to Grand Forks, even if they're a Canuck, to absorb the grind of the MVFC schedule.
Christopher Moen
08-23-2017, 02:34 AM
He must mean TV ratings....something the Siouxucks FB team has never experienced!
Contrary to their beliefs, neither does NCAA Hockey.
thebigund
08-23-2017, 03:08 AM
The biggest change last year was not having an injury happen to one major, important playmaker, but instead, several major, important playmakers. JMU doesn't win if Tanguay, DeLuca and Easton are healthy. It might be a blow-out if all three were healthy.
Ratings? I'm guessing you meant rankings. During the run, NDSU didn't always get seeded #1, but I believe were always in the top three. No change there. Why were the Bison ranked #1? Easy. They had one lost to team that beat them at the last second. That team would also be a playoff team. Plus, NDSU arguably had the toughest schedule among the teams in the top-five. This included a victory over #2 EWU and also a big-time victory over an undefeated Iowa team that had participated in the previous year's Rose Bowl. Pretty hard to argue a #1 ranking come playoff time.
Why was JMU ranked #4. Probably because the CAA doesn't hold the esteem it once did and the blow-out lost to North Carolina looked pretty bad on their resume when comparing one-lost records to EWU and arguably Jacksonville State. JSU probably got #3 based on them being in the Championship game and JMU getting beat at home by Colgate in the previous playoff.
Therefore, no evidence of a "slip." NDSU is still a super strong contender for the NCAA Division I Championship Trophy.
Your school, on the other hand, is only a Big Sky contender on paper. Reality is about to hit you guys/gals like a Mack truck. Just wait until 2020, when that Mack truck smack happens on a weekly basis. Sorry, Bubba isn't a Bohl and I doubt you guys/gals are going to be able to attract enough horses to Grand Forks, even if they're a Canuck, to absorb the grind of the MVFC schedule.
How do you think the game would've gone if both JMU and NDSU were at full strength. Remember JMU was missing something like 5 good players, one of which was a tackle who was backed up by the guy who had about 5 false starts.
Christopher Moen
08-23-2017, 03:24 AM
How do you think the game would've gone if both JMU and NDSU were at full strength. Remember JMU was missing something like 5 good players, one of which was a tackle who was backed up by the guy who had about 5 false starts.
How many of JMU's injured guys are/were NFL-caliber and how many of those were really "injured?" I take NDSU with both teams at full strength, and that full strength better be all natural.
thebigund
08-23-2017, 03:52 AM
How many of JMU's injured guys are/were NFL-caliber and how many of those were really "injured?" I take NDSU with both teams at full strength, and that full strength better be all natural.
Being injured or suspended makes the same amount of difference for the lineup so I don't consider them different for my question.
ByeSonBusiness
08-23-2017, 04:05 AM
How many of JMU's injured guys are/were NFL-caliber and how many of those were really "injured?" I take NDSU with both teams at full strength, and that full strength better be all natural.
I mean... the backup left tackle alone messed up a ton. Tough to know what would have happened though. They came into the dome during the playoffs and won... Tough to make excuses.
Christopher Moen
08-23-2017, 04:38 AM
Being injured or suspended makes the same amount of difference for the lineup so I don't consider them different for my question.
So a team that has a handful of suspended players for a reason(s) not yet known and might be a hint of what might the reason why a team had a huge turn around in one season is the same as an injured player?
Dude, you're not thinking straight.
Christopher Moen
08-23-2017, 04:41 AM
I mean... the backup left tackle alone messed up a ton. Tough to know what would have happened though. They came into the dome during the playoffs and won... Tough to make excuses.
Give JMU and NDSU their healthy players. Their starting LT might not have as many false starts, but does he and his clean plays make up for Tanguay and DeLuca's presence in the middle? I don't think so.
wagsabison
08-23-2017, 12:30 PM
As of late, you absolutely had some great teams and lost some close games. You also won some close games in the run.
Last 2 years, things began to and did change.
Where was the JM game at? Why? Ratings.
Were the ratings wrong, and if so, should have the game been at JM?
It's JMU... if you're going to try to bring us down you might as well use the schools correct initials.
thebigund
08-23-2017, 01:01 PM
So a team that has a handful of suspended players for a reason(s) not yet known and might be a hint of what might the reason why a team had a huge turn around in one season is the same as an injured player?
Dude, you're not thinking straight.
Are you saying they were all suspended for PIDs?
Bisonator98
08-23-2017, 01:06 PM
Are you saying they were all suspended for PIDs?
What's a PID?
Professor Chaos
08-23-2017, 01:30 PM
What's a PID?
Pelvic inflammatory disease or chlamydia as it is more commonly referred to.... seems awful cruel to suspend someone from a football team for that though... it's also pretty tough to get without having lady parts if I understand correctly. :innocent:
http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/what-is-pelvic-inflammatory-disease
thebigund
08-23-2017, 01:45 PM
What's a PID?
Penis Inhailing Dudes?
*PED's.......:hide:
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-23-2017, 02:13 PM
It's JMU... if you're going to try to bring us down you might as well use the schools correct initials.
JMU it is.
Bizon is also Bye son and Bison.
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-23-2017, 02:23 PM
How many of JMU's injured guys are/were NFL-caliber and how many of those were really "injured?" I take NDSU with both teams at full strength, and that full strength better be all natural.
Injuries and suspensions are and always will be part of the game.
JM was a better team last year. They should be ranked #1 in every preseason poll this year.
Mr Meaty
08-23-2017, 02:49 PM
Are you saying they were all suspended for PIDs?
They are all PUDs... What is why.... :rofl:
Milkman
08-23-2017, 03:01 PM
They are all PUDs... What is why.... :rofl:
my first thought was maybe they are all CHUDs !!!!! :omfg::omfg::omfg:
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Christopher Moen
08-23-2017, 06:09 PM
Are you saying they were all suspended for PIDs?
Without an official release, a lot can be speculated. From my understanding, USADA doesn't test NCAA athletes, the NCAA does their own testing. If USADA did, they would have released the positive test results of JMU, YSU, SDSU and whatever teams that had athletes getting "popped" during the playoffs.
BisonNation11
08-23-2017, 08:55 PM
Not sure where I stand on the issue of releasing information on student athletes who fail drug tests, but I do lean one way. Considering my donations go to pay for scholarships for the athletes on the field, part of me thinks I deserve to know why they failed. I think that should go for any suspension.
Christopher Moen
08-23-2017, 10:14 PM
Not sure where I stand on the issue of releasing information on student athletes who fail drug tests, but I do lean one way. Considering my donations go to pay for scholarships for the athletes on the field, part of me thinks I deserve to know why they failed. I think that should go for any suspension.
Being a part of an organization that works under the USOC umbrella, and therefore the strict rules of USADA, it's strange to see other American sports organizations to not have to deal with the "oh crap" moment when an athlete gets "popped" and the ensuing press and social media frenzy.
barnwintersportsengelstad
08-24-2017, 04:17 PM
So is it that FB players are more apt to use banned drugs?
And therefore maybe more testing than other sports?
Christopher Moen
08-24-2017, 05:00 PM
So is it that FB players are more apt to use banned drugs?
And therefore maybe more testing than other sports?
NCAA athletes, regardless of sport, do not get tested nearly as much as Olympic-caliber USA athletes. I doubt any athlete, professional or amateur, has to deal with a tenth of the harassment our Olympic-caliber get from USADA.
For example, if you are an Olympic-caliber athlete and you go on a trip of any kind and forget to tell USADA, you better hope they don't come knocking on your home door for a random test (usually get at least one a month). If your not at home, practice, work or any place you listed you would be available for the test, you now get marked for failing a drug test.
NCAA athletes might get tested early in the season and then randomly in the post season. In regards to the teams that had players get "popped," only a percentage of the players get tested. So when 15-20 players get randomly tested on each playoff team and a playoff team has a high percentage of those players getting "popped," I highly doubt the NCAA only caught the guilty by chance. There is probably a higher chance that the team as a whole is using whatever substance came up positive or was shown to be masked.
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barnwintersportsengelstad
08-25-2017, 05:22 AM
NCAA athletes, regardless of sport, do not get tested nearly as much as Olympic-caliber USA athletes. I doubt any athlete, professional or amateur, has to deal with a tenth of the harassment our Olympic-caliber get from USADA.
For example, if you are an Olympic-caliber athlete and you go on a trip of any kind and forget to tell USADA, you better hope they don't come knocking on your home door for a random test (usually get at least one a month). If your not at home, practice, work or any place you listed you would be available for the test, you now get marked for failing a drug test.
NCAA athletes might get tested early in the season and then randomly in the post season. In regards to the teams that had players get "popped," only a percentage of the players get tested. So when 15-20 players get randomly tested on each playoff team and a playoff team has a high percentage of those players getting "popped," I highly doubt the NCAA only caught the guilty by chance. There is probably a higher chance that the team as a whole is using whatever substance came up positive or was shown to be masked.
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Thx, JM and Youngstown had to be a disappointment to a lot of FCS fans for making it to the Natty Game and had quite a few players "popped" as you say, by the NCAA. Ya, and then how many didn't they catch?
Maybe I missed something in your answer, but I don't recall hearing about anyone getting popped in basketball, baseball, hockey, etc.? Does the NCAA check in most sports.
Christopher Moen
08-25-2017, 05:54 AM
Thx, JM and Youngstown had to be a disappointment to a lot of FCS fans for making it to the Natty Game and had quite a few players "popped" as you say, by the NCAA. Ya, and then how many didn't they catch?
Maybe I missed something in your answer, but I don't recall hearing about anyone getting popped in basketball, baseball, hockey, etc.? Does the NCAA check in most sports.
Outside of wrestling and what I've heard about football, I don't know how it works for other sports. In wrestling, we were given a cup to fill unsupervised at the beginning of the season. I don't remember anyone being randomly tested for remainder of the year until the Championships. At the Championships, individuals were randomly chosen to take a test throughout the tournament, and I believe the finalist were both tested (Champion for sure).
From what I've heard about football during the playoffs, a certain number of players are randomly selected from each participating team to test. I don't know if this includes every round.
semobison
09-16-2017, 11:13 PM
How many offenses in teh valleys are actually good?
Thought this might be funny considering what happened today...so...Bump!
EC8CH
09-16-2017, 11:19 PM
Thought this might be funny considering what happened today...so...Bump!
The number is surely to go up once the F'Hawkers and their horrible D join the valley.
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
09-16-2017, 11:33 PM
LOL They just got thumped by a middle of the pack Valley team.
What would happen if they actually played a team from the Valley that is really good?
NDSU1980
09-17-2017, 12:35 AM
LOL
What would happen if they actually played a team from the Valley that is really good?
78-0 Not sure if that's still toe to toe.
Bison03
09-17-2017, 12:52 AM
LOL They just got thumped by a middle of the pack Valley team.
What would happen if they actually played a team from the Valley that is really good?
I think if they played the Bison today...the outcome would be similar to what is was in 2015.
MinotBison
09-17-2017, 01:02 AM
LOL They just got thumped by a middle of the pack Valley team.
What would happen if they actually played a team from the Valley that is really good?
I would say 45-7 is a lot more than getting thumped.
KilldeerBison
09-17-2017, 02:13 AM
They aren't built to play Utah. Utah is a tough matchup for them. It is a large spread. But, like I told a friend, Utah is the least of their concerns. They have to beat USD, that is their game of the year. If they lose to Utah, USD and potentially Eastern Washington, they will have 3 losses and no quality wins. Missouri State is the worst in the league. The thing about them, is their new staff played no upper classman, they all got a year older, he can coach. Nothing would shock me. Is it true NDSU averaged a yard more at tailback than UND did? It was just posted. In the valley vs the sky? Is that even possible?
Burgundy, bumped for crystal ball accuracy.
BadlandsBison
09-17-2017, 02:16 AM
Burgundy, bumped for crystal ball accuracy.
And I think they travel to Missoula to boot. Situation critical.
Da Bison
09-17-2017, 02:36 AM
78-0 Not sure if that's still toe to toe.I think that would be more like.............heal to toe.
If you get my drift [emoji15]
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EndZoneQB
09-17-2017, 02:52 AM
And I think they travel to Missoula to boot. Situation critical.
Montana lost their starting QB to a pretty gruesome injury.
MAKBison
09-17-2017, 02:54 AM
Montana lost their starting QB to a pretty gruesome injury.
seen it... that dudes leg was pointing ways your leg should not
EndZoneQB
09-17-2017, 03:04 AM
seen it... that dudes leg was pointing ways your leg should not
Sounds like he had immediate surgery. You know it's bad when that happens.
KilldeerBison
09-17-2017, 03:31 AM
S Utah just beat UNI, 21 to 24.
EC8CH
09-17-2017, 03:44 AM
S Utah just beat UNI, 21 to 24.
UNI just off to their typical start.
Seriously though, they look like crap this year.
MAKBison
09-17-2017, 05:51 AM
Sounds like he had immediate surgery. You know it's bad when that happens.
Yeah, it looked like a lower leg break.
Bison20
09-17-2017, 01:23 PM
Pretty quiet from the trolls up north. We finally found out how to keep them away. A good old beatdown from a middle of the pack valley team.
BisonTeacher
09-17-2017, 01:30 PM
Pretty quiet from the trolls up north. We finally found out how to keep them away. A good old beatdown from a middle of the pack valley team.
I think even the most illogical up north are having a hard dose of reality with their coffee this morning. When will they start calling for bubba's job? The fact that some up there are making muss comparisons is telling.
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
09-17-2017, 01:55 PM
Pretty quiet from the trolls up north. We finally found out how to keep them away. A good old beatdown from a middle of the pack valley team.
Yeah, they'll be licking their wounds for awhile, but I hope they don't stay away for too long. The comic relief is worth the price of admission.
GOBISON123
09-17-2017, 03:54 PM
S Utah just beat UNI, 21 to 24.
No drop off in their defense. Their defense still scores atleast two scores each game. Jared Farley is playing great, he had a pick six in previous two games. Stripping the ball, forcing fumble and turnovers are a common theme with this defense.
MNLonghorn10
09-17-2017, 04:04 PM
Just when you thought I forgot to perform the only task I was put on this God forsaken planet to do I finally got over NDSU's 6th consecutive national title and mustered up the gusto to limp my way through yet another attempt to teach you lot to not breathe with your mouths. Whew, inhale, through your nose. Anyway we enter this season ranked #5 by Craig Haley, a reward for last season's playoff dominance no doubt. NDSU comes in at #1 as any defending national champ should. Craig is so smart. It seems inevitable that the NCAA will match our teams up in the playoffs this year. It will be a game of epic proportions; a true heavyweight bout. It's not so much the David and Goliath that the last game was.... more like The Mountain vs The Hound or Tyrion Lannister vs syphilis.
Coaching:
HC: Bubbles is better get over it.
OC: Rudolph vs Polesuck was a true head to head smashfest of incompetence; the jet sweep into the near sideline vs the double reverse drive killer. Somehow that neanderthal dragged his knuckles down to the Hawkeye state in a bizarre twist where someone deserving a demotion actually got a huge promotion. We now have to deal with teh Messinghams Effects. Seriously though, what the fuck is that? Anyway Messingham's Revenge will definitely occur if you drink the tap water at the Fargo Loaf. In other words, this one is an explosive push followed by some vomit and maybe a shomit if you're lucky.
DC: Schmidty vs Entz? Apparently, according to Jeff and Dom, the other Jeff and something called Jorgie, Entz was handed the keys to a Ferrari for this season. The only way he screws this up is if he's been taking driving lessons from Caitlyn Jenner. Schmidty is the man, he was a better player than Entz and is a better coach.
Overall: teh FHawkers
Offense:
QB:Hockey Stick still looks like a 220 lb 12 year old boy but throws the ball about as well as a 14 year old girl. He can run though, so there's that. He hasn't lost many games but he's just not that good of a QB..... compared to Carson Wentz. My boy Heny VanDerDellen is now the best QB on campus. That's right. That's a hot take right there. Cole Davids is going to be the best 3rd string QB in the nation. BOOM DOUBLE HOT TAKE!
Keaton Studsrud can throw (http://forum.siouxsports.com/uploads/monthly_2017_08/Screenshot_20170801-000921.png.10c87b3de088c555b6c088553546e9a4.png) , he can run, he can stare down his primary WR better than Dante Culpepper, and he can get injured better than Derrick Rose. What a stud. Andrew Spicoli Zimmerman is an EWU transfer and the presumed backup. Brad Heidlebaugh is next after him and with his mechanics our best hope is that he doesn't need to play this year and can switch positions next season. Seriously, Tebow has better mechanics.
Advantage: NDSU, only because of my boy VanDerDellen.
RB: Oh, boy, this is about to get heated.
Bruce Anderson and Lance Dunn will try and get there Ojuri/Crockett on this year. Here's a hint, they won't. The OL aint shit compared to what Ojuri and Crockett had. Anyway Bruce is big and fast and strong and made of glass. He's really good when healthy. People seem to think Dunn is going to be an all american this year. He's damn fast and thicker than anyone would guess. We'll see on all that but he's a really good player. I've heard people compare Purifoy to David Johnson. Well, I'd like to tell all of you dreamers that you're fucked in the head and he aint even half the player David Johnson, you know, the top RB in the fucking NFL, was at UNI. Just stop with all that noise. What's next? Cofield is the next Lamar Gordon? Kleiman must be a big fan of John Santiago because he's trying to make Ty Brooks into him. He looked pretty good in your spring game so I'm sure he will be the waterbug de jour. He's a ND boy so I can't cheer against him. The way I see it, 3 very good backs and some backups with apparently mythical potential.
Last year we had a two headed monster with John Santiago and Brady Olivera. We then added James Johannesson, only because NDSU didn't have any pesos for the poor schmuck, to create a 3 headed monster. A hydra.... minus 6 heads, if you will. So you're telling me we have the most shifty and explosive RB in the country, a bruising Canadian battering ram, and a 6'1" 230+ blazing fast B1G transfer all in one backfield?
Advantage: obviously UND
TE: Luke "Thor" Feidler is 6'5" 250 lbs, 30 of which are his golden flowing locks. He's got long skinny arms and looks like he isn't worth a shit in the run game, until he locks on and seals the edge. Don't let the hair and the soft skin fool you, this chick is a killer (http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209603607&DB_OEM_ID=13500). Alex Cloyd was the first TE to play as a true fr since Jimmy Kleinsasssser. He came in built like a senior. A wrestling stud from Nebraska. You hear that Christopher Moen? Wildcard is Hunter Pinke out of good ol Wishek, he's gonna be a good one.
First off, what the fuck are you guys doing with 10 TEs on your roster? Is this part of Messingham's Revenge? Jeff Illies is apparently majoring in biker meth. He's either a small TE or a slow WR, take your pick. Ben Ellefson fell to NDSU like manna from heaven.... and didn't have a single catch last year. He "was a key blocker for NDSU" so there's that. That dirty cheap shot giving cock sucker Conner Wentz is still around? Good. Nate Jensen is a tall goofy looking bastard. He's a good redzone matchup because he's tall and so goofy looking that nobody takes him seriously. Think Gindorth with get his shirt pulled? I hear he's pretty good.
Advantage: NDSU.... for now
OL: AJ Stockwell has started is going to be a 4 year starter at LT. Demon Taylor is a pre season first team RG. LG/CGrant Aplin is a 6' 300lb meat missile. C Patrick Rooney looks like a pile of goose shit but is actually good at football. Elijah Grady....... didn't report to camp.... soooooo Matt Molasses In January Cox might have to start at RT unless a RS FR steps up. Fuck. Either way, 4 returning starters is pretty good. If we lock down the RT spot look out. Candidates for that position are Noah Mortel, a supremely athletic cheese head and Bryce Blair who literally cannot get above 280lbs. Other than RT our OL is rock solid.
Teh rams have a bunch of question marks coming into this season. However, RG Austin Kuhnert is a 4 year starter and all around bad dude. RT Zack Johnson is on his 9th year of eligibility now? Seriously. OC Tanner Volson will attempt to fill the large shoes of Kuhnert. LT Dillon Radunz is covered in drool from Jeremy Jorgensen's gushing sessions on the insiders. That man has a sick obsession with this young man and you can hear his pants straining with tension when he talks about him. Maybe he can give flying lessons at UND after Radunz files a restraining order? Will Zack Zeimer finally earn a starting roll with teh rams at LG?
Advantage: The Hogs - experience trumps drool soaked potential
WR: RJ Urbandunski is finally a senior. Not gonna lie, he hasn't improved one bit since he was a fr. Sure he was a stud as a fr but I figured he would have improved at least a little bit. Tell you what though, I love me some Darrius Shepherd. He is a baller. Sure he's not big or all that fast but he gets the job done and is a big game playmaker. Sean Engel is like soon talllll. So Engel if is the white Dee Grey who is the white Kenny Golladay? Wow, who the fuck are these other guys? I've heard of Dimitri Williams but he's ass. These other guys were obviously too good to play for UND though so I'm sure they're all future all americans. You guys better hope Desmond Cain is all that.
Stanley Toivonen Wanzek Mercer. 6'4, 6'3, 6'4, 6'2. Stanley is ol reliable and at 230lbs blocks like a damn TE on the edge. Toivonen is slow as shit but he's a big boy with some strong mits who can also block. Wanzek is an absolute stud. Last year he weighed about 175 lbs and was able to play as a true fr and make spectacular catches all over the field. He's up to 200 lbs now. DBs are in trouble. Mercer didn't factor in to the offense really until the last 5 games after transferring over in the summer. He's got size and speed and was our go to WR down the stretch last year. He now actually knows the offense so expect a big year out of him. The weakness of this very pale basketball team is deep speed to keep safeties honest. Enter Cam McKinney. Word on the street is he is faster than Santiago. IF he can be a true deep threat our offense will be a buzzsaw. Throw in Danny Amendola look alike Josh Seibel and we've got a complete set of WR.
Advantage: UND - 5 proven guys > 2
Overall: UND - we've just got more experience and talent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hmg_fJ6A4k
barnwintersportsengelstad
09-17-2017, 06:04 PM
Pretty quiet from the trolls up north. We finally found out how to keep them away. A good old beatdown from a middle of the pack valley team.
Does hurt, early in the year, we could rebound. Have to give SD credit, they played well.
mtoutfitter
09-17-2017, 06:53 PM
Does hurt, early in the year, we could rebound. Have to give SD credit, they played well.
Reasons for loss
1...Thin at LB
2...Poor O Line play
3...Bad calls by Officials
4...OC's play calling sucks
5...Can't tell the difference between a Bull and Cow without the hangie down thingie!! (Had to be there for that one)
thebigund
09-18-2017, 12:01 AM
Sounds like he had immediate surgery. You know it's bad when that happens.
His leg looked worse than our offense yesterday. His ankle was rotated a good 120 degrees to the outside. Never seen anything that bad.
thebigund
09-18-2017, 12:02 AM
Pretty quiet from the trolls up north. We finally found out how to keep them away. A good old beatdown from a middle of the pack valley team.
This is rich. USD may be the best team in The Valley when this season is over.
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
09-18-2017, 12:06 AM
This is rich. USD may be the best team in The Valley when this season is over.
LOL, you keep telling yourself that.
Whatever make you feel better.
scottietohottie
09-18-2017, 12:07 AM
This is rich. USD may be the best team in The Valley when this season is over.
I can't wait until you get your ass beat by USD and then have to play Illinois State, sdsu, Youngstown state and then NDSU.
You'll be looking forward to the offseason.
Playoffs are going to suck this year going to be valley play 2.0.
BisonHorns
09-18-2017, 01:02 AM
I can't wait until you get your ass beat by USD and then have to play Illinois State, sdsu, Youngstown state and then NDSU.
You'll be looking forward to the offseason.
AMEN to this!
EC8CH
09-18-2017, 01:20 AM
This is rich. USD may be the best team in The Valley when this season is over.
You know what's rich? UN_ may be the best team in the Pig Sty when this season is over.
Bison Loaf
09-18-2017, 01:20 AM
This is rich. USD may be the best team in The Valley when this season is over.
And Richmond may very well be the best FCS team in the country when the season is over, and Utah may very well be the PAC-12 and BCS champion when the season is over.
We certainly understand what the common denominator is in your mind.
runtheoption
09-18-2017, 02:31 PM
I can't wait until you get your ass beat by USD and then have to play Illinois State, sdsu, Youngstown state and then NDSU.
You'll be looking forward to the offseason.
Reminds me of us making the move from the Great West to the MVFC.
MNLonghorn10
09-18-2017, 02:40 PM
This is rich. USD may be the best team in The Valley when this season is over.You sound like my dad when it comes to every team that beats UND is super tough and he doesn't think NDSU can stand up to the Jacksonville states, Richmond's, sdsus etc.
Bisonator98
09-18-2017, 02:41 PM
This is rich. USD may be the best team in The Valley when this season is over.
Don't worry big undies, hockie season is right around the corner.:rofl:
This is rich. USD may be the best team in The Valley when this season is over.
Or they could finish 9th, like Missouri State did in 2014 after beating UND 38-0. Yotes have certainly looked impressive so far (against Drake, a bad FBS team, and some Big Sky team), but they have to get through a helluva schedule: roads trips to Western Illinois, Illinois State, UNI, and NDSU. Also host Youngstown and SDSU.
garbageman
09-18-2017, 02:53 PM
you sound like my dad when it comes to every team that beats und is super tough and he doesn't think ndsu can stand up to the jacksonville states, richmond's, sdsus etc.
does your dad have a drinking problem? Lol please get him some help
BisonTeacher
09-18-2017, 03:04 PM
You sound like my dad when it comes to every team that beats UND is super tough and he doesn't think NDSU can stand up to the Jacksonville states, Richmond's, sdsus etc.
Well that explains a lot.
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
09-20-2017, 02:36 AM
Bump :biggrin:
LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
09-24-2017, 02:47 AM
Hey Undie, So........will UN_ get a seed? Do you think UN_ and NDSU will be on the same side of the bracket or will we meet in Frisco? :biggrin:
NDSU1980
09-24-2017, 02:54 AM
Hey Undie, So........will UN_ get a seed? Do you think UN_ and NDSU will be on the same side of the bracket or will we meet in Frisco? :biggrin:
I suppose they can hope a 1-10 record gets them in. After all, "Leave No Doubt".
MAKBison
09-24-2017, 02:59 AM
I suppose they can hope a 1-10 record gets them in. After all, "Leave No Doubt".
wait 4 it...............
MAKBison
09-24-2017, 03:00 AM
wait 4 it...............
Wait................
MAKBison
09-24-2017, 03:00 AM
Wait................
wait..................
MAKBison
09-24-2017, 03:01 AM
wait..................
Hey... anyone has seen a worm in here? it's supposed to be turning!
NDSU1980
09-24-2017, 03:17 AM
Hey... anyone has seen a worm in here? it's supposed to be turning!
I think the worm died.
imabison
09-24-2017, 03:18 AM
I think the worm died.
In a Tequila bottle...
MAKBison
09-24-2017, 03:24 AM
In a Tequila bottle...
I think for many F'hawkeyers it was tonight
BisonAccountant44
09-24-2017, 03:43 AM
Is it time for the 2018 thread now?
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BisManBison
09-24-2017, 03:52 AM
Is it time for the 2018 thread now?
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Uhm , they're sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with this girl who saw the Fawkers lifting weights because their pissed and are going to leave no doubt in 2017. I guess it's pretty serious.
MAKBison
09-24-2017, 03:54 AM
Uhm , they're sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with this girl who saw the Fawkers lifting weights because their pissed and are going to leave no doubt in 2017. I guess it's pretty serious.
WOW in that case...........................
EC8CH
09-24-2017, 03:59 AM
Uhm , they're sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with this girl who saw the Fawkers lifting weights because their pissed and are going to leave no doubt in 2017. I guess it's pretty serious.
Save Fawkers!
Bison20
09-24-2017, 04:08 AM
Save Fawkers!
It can't be for real. Und has so many advantages over ndsu at most positions. To bad our rbs aren't very good. Dunn only rushed for 111 yards and 3 touchdowns on 3 carries.
EC8CH
09-24-2017, 04:13 AM
It can't be for real. Und has so many advantages over ndsu at most positions. To bad our rbs aren't very good. Dunn only rushed for 111 yards and 3 touchdowns on 3 carries.
4 TDs. He caught the ball once too ;)
BisManBison
10-01-2017, 02:17 AM
Thank God hockey season started today for GFCC, with 7 minutes left in the 2nd, they've given up over 350yds in total offense already :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Update, 421 yards in the first half.
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