2017 Preseason Polls

[Bison03]

Let it begin.
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/athlon-sports-preseason-fcs-top-25-2017

[CalBison97]

Can't argue too much with spots 1-3. UND at 5 is an absolute joke.

[tjbison]

meh....wait till week 4 to see whats up

[MankatoBison]

Can't argue too much with spots 1-3. UND at 5 is an absolute joke.

I literally laughed out loud when I saw them at 5. Full belly laugh

[natstar1]

Where would be a good spot for UND?

[TransAmBison]

Where would be a good spot for UND?North Korea.

[ZHerd]

Where would be a good spot for UND?

Not sure how many starters or good role players are returning but that is huge imo. They improved a lot last year and if they return much that trend will continue. I think Illinois State is being underrated (maybe because the were recently overrated and now there is an overreaction). That freshmen RB flashed some big time ability when we played them and I think he is going to wreck the MVC

[THEsocalledfan]

I think SDSU is the biggest threat this year. We have to play them in their new palace and even the fickle fans of SD may finally realize how good their team is and sell that place out, of course with our ample help. That offense scares me to death......all they need is a semi-competent defense that can stop the run.......

[Bison 4 Life]

North Korea.

https://i.giphy.com/14xFtRMKKza7WU.webp

[thebigund]

Not sure how many starters or good role players are returning but that is huge imo. They improved a lot last year and if they return much that trend will continue. I think Illinois State is being underrated (maybe because the were recently overrated and now there is an overreaction). That freshmen RB flashed some big time ability when we played them and I think he is going to wreck the MVC

Lose our best OL and 4 really good LBs. Other than that everyone is back that contributed.

[tjbison]

[QUOTE=THEsocalledfan;1210615..all they need is a semi-competent defense that can stop the run.......[/QUOTE]

which i don't believe they have

[Mr Meaty]

I am surprised NDSU is listed #1 and JMU #2. It probably does not really matter as both are very good. SDSU at #3 is high, but with the offense they have returning they are a threat to win it. They have to improve on defense if they really want to be taken seriously. UND at #5? They still have a question make at QB with their current guy. RB's they should be very good at. LB's and corner's will need to step up for them. SHSU up there . Beat someone that is really really good and you can be up there. Beating Sisters of the Blind and Jefferson Pre-k teams does not cut it.

[Mr Meaty]

You got 3 school in the top 5 that are 250 miles apart. I guess we know who has the best teams though.

[HerdBot]

There was some good discussion on this on Bison 1660 today

https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-insiders-june-6-2017-full-show

[MNLonghorn10]

Sam Houston should never be allowed in the top 5 until the CAA and MVFC go fbs

[THEsocalledfan]

You got 3 school in the top 5 that are 250 miles apart. I guess we know who has the best teams though.

Too bad Jim Madison won last year, or we could have just renamed the FCS, the North Central United States Champion. (Yes, I realize Iowa schools and MN fall in this area..... :) )

[SoCalBison]

Too bad Jim Madison won last year, or we could have just renamed the FCS, the North Central United States Champion. (Yes, I realize Iowa schools and MN fall in this area..... :) )

No worries, we've taken care of the best teams in Iowa and Minnesota.

[Herd]

Can't argue too much with spots 1-3. UND at 5 is an absolute joke.

We'll see what they are made of vs. Utah to start the season. Hang with Utah and I'd tip my cap. Lose by 20+ and it would show they have some work to do. Utah likes to Bully people, so it will be a physical test.

[ndsubison1]

You can make an argument for them at top 10, but 5 is a little high

[CalBison97]

We'll see what they are made of vs. Utah to start the season. Hang with Utah and I'd tip my cap. Lose by 20+ and it would show they have some work to do. Utah likes to Bully people, so it will be a physical test.

Utes by 28+. Top tier PAC-12 team. UND showed their true colors against a battered Richmond team.


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[NDSU1980]

Here's the Massey ratings. Has the Bison 1, JMU 2, UN_ 21. Interesting prediction on the Mississippi Valley State game, Massey has us winning 52-0. You don't suppose he's using some sort of reverse psychology do you??? http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings

[cbline]

The "flagship" won the Big Sky last year with a cupcake schedule. Will be interesting to see how they do with a stronger schedule.

[td577]

I think the Haley poll has it about right for the top 3 and the rest doesn't matter. I think by the end of the year, it will be those three teams at the top and you can shake up the rest of the names in a hat and it won't matter.

[CalBison97]

Here's the Massey ratings. Has the Bison 1, JMU 2, UN_ 21. Interesting prediction on the Mississippi Valley State game, Massey has us winning 52-0. You don't suppose he's using some sort of reverse psychology do you??? http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings

Massey:Longhorn : : Lakes:Chapo


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[KC Bison]

Mcfoolum questions why the Bison are #1 (they would never be lower than#2) but has absolutely no comment about why the suzies got ranked at #5 or ranked at all? They certainly ended last season on an incredibly low note, losing after having a 24-7 lead. Its a fabulously funny YouTube to watch the 4th quarter of that game.

[mtoutfitter]

Mcfoolum questions why the Bison are #1 (they would never be lower than#2) but has absolutely no comment about why the suzies got ranked at #5 or ranked at all? They certainly ended last season on an incredibly low note, losing after having a 24-7 lead. Its a fabulously funny YouTube to watch the 4th quarter of that game.

Yep, watching the 4th quarter of that game borders on orgasmic!!!

[HerdBot]

Good discussion with Brian McLaughlin from hero sports on JMU and NDSU


FULL SHOW - THE INSIDERS - Wednesday, June 7th
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HERO Sports Brian McLaughlin 6 - 7-17
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[tjbison]

The "flagship" won a share of the Big Sky last year with a cupcake schedule. Will be interesting to see how they do with a stronger schedule.

fixed your post

[Mr. Burgundy]

The "flagship" won the Big Sky last year with a cupcake schedule. Will be interesting to see how they do with a stronger schedule.

UND is much improved. They understand their schedule wasn't tough, and I think their playoff collapse probably helped them this off season. That had to sting. Until they beat someone, they still have that "prove it" factor to me. If they go to USD and dominate, then I will listen. Them being ranked 5th is hard for me to undersand as I honesty have 5 teams easily ahead of them in the Missouri Valley. But, they will eventually play in the best conference in FCS so this will all be mute. Excited for football season, for camps, for verbals to start rolling in. Quite a time to be a fan.

[mtoutfitter]

UND is much improved. They understand their schedule wasn't tough, and I think their playoff collapse probably helped them this off season. That had to sting. Until they beat someone, they still have that "prove it" factor to me. If they go to USD and dominate, then I will listen. Them being ranked 5th is hard for me to undersand as I honesty have 5 teams easily ahead of them in the Missouri Valley. But, they will eventually play in the best conference in FCS so this will all be mute. Excited for football season, for camps, for verbals to start rolling in. Quite a time to be a fan.

Mr B do you have any personal ideas on which guys will verbal based on some of the offers out there now?? I know you have ESPN!!!

[NDSU1980]

UND is much improved. They understand their schedule wasn't tough, and I think their playoff collapse probably helped them this off season. That had to sting. Until they beat someone, they still have that "prove it" factor to me. If they go to USD and dominate, then I will listen. Them being ranked 5th is hard for me to undersand as I honesty have 5 teams easily ahead of them in the Missouri Valley. But, they will eventually play in the best conference in FCS so this will all be mute. Excited for football season, for camps, for verbals to start rolling in. Quite a time to be a fan.
Heck, they should be used to the sting by now. In 2015 they didn't even make the playoffs and supposedly that was going to drive them to great things last year. I guess the inspiration wore off in the second half of their first ever playoff game. :D

[BisonTru]

AGS Poll Results - PRESEASON - 07/31/2017

Rank Team Total Points First Place Votes
1 James Madison Dukes 1862 64
2 North Dakota State Bison 1784 8
3 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1624 2
4 Eastern Washington Eagles 1541
5 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1464 1
6 Richmond Spiders 1447
7 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1326
8 Wofford Terriers 1308
9 Villanova Wildcats 1199
10 Youngstown State Penguins 1175
11 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 1114
12 Chattanooga Mocs 953
13 Central Arkansas Bears 934
14 The Citadel Bulldogs 902
15 New Hampshire Wildcats 798
16 Charleston Southern Buccaneers 653
17 Samford Bulldogs 623
18 Illinois State Redbirds 529
19 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 507
20 Western Illinois Leathernecks 351
21 Cal Poly Mustangs 344
22 Northern Iowa Panthers 338
23 Fordham Rams 155
24 Weber State Wildcats 147
25 Albany Great Danes 146
ORV:
26 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 138
27 San Diego Toreros 131
28 Montana Grizzlies 121
29 McNeese State Cowboys 98
30 Grambling State Tigers 96
31 North Carolina A&T Aggies 94
32 North Carolina Central Eagles 56
33 South Dakota Coyotes 44
34 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 42
35 William & Mary Tribe 39
36 Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 34
37T Harvard Crimson 33
37T Saint Francis Red Flash 33
39 Maine Black Bears 28
40 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 26

[ZHerd]

Not bad but I would drop SHSU. I really don't think they are a top 5 team and until they can demonstrate some mental toughness under Keeler when they actually play someone they don't deserve to be grouped with the heavyweights

[Professor Chaos]

Not bad but I would drop SHSU. I really don't think they are a top 5 team and until they can demonstrate some mental toughness under Keeler when they actually play someone they don't deserve to be grouped with the heavyweights
They play Richmond, who is a preseason top 10 team, this year in week 0 so we'll find out who they really are early.

Game is on ESPNU on Sunday 8/27 at 6PM CT.

[ZHerd]

They play Richmond, who is a preseason top 10 team, this year in week 0 so we'll find out who they really are early.

Game is on ESPNU on Sunday 8/27 at 6PM CT.

It's certainly not a meaningless game but back to back years of looking great in regular season, getting to crunch time, and then looking like the worst team in FCS tells me something is wrong there.

[Professor Chaos]

It's certainly not a meaningless game but back to back years of looking great, getting to crunch time, and then looking like the worst teams in FCS tells me something is wrong there.
I think they're a really good team deserving of a top 5 spot in the preseason considering what they return but I also think their playoff belly flops are a direct result of a team with not much mental toughness because they play in a Charmin soft conference. They're not nearly as bad as their playoff exits the last two years have made them look but they don't seem to know how to compete when they get punched in the mouth because that just doesn't happen to them in their conference.

[ZHerd]

I think they're a really good team deserving of a top 5 spot in the preseason considering what they return but I also think their playoff belly flops are a direct result of a team with not much mental toughness because they play in a Charmin soft conference. They're not nearly as bad as their playoff exits the last two years have made them look but they don't seem to know how to compete when they get punched in the mouth because that just doesn't happen to them in their conference.

Correct, thus they aren't a top 5 team. Top teams can compete with other top teams. Honestly, I'd be embarrassed to see NDSU lose that badly to Alabama much less an FCS peer. You might be right about them, I'm just feeling that they need to prove it, and prove it somewhere other than the southland (thus playoffs)

[eman]

As far as the shit hawks go, there is 6-7 teams on that poll ranked below them that should be ranked ahead of them!!! They played nobody last year and it showed glaringly in the playoffs!!! They have to prove themselves!

[Christopher Moen]

As far as the shit hawks go, there is 6-7 teams on that poll ranked below them that should be ranked ahead of them!!! They played nobody last year and it showed glaringly in the playoffs!!! They have to prove themselves!

Are you saying they left some doubt?

Don't worry, they're in for rude awakening this year.

[BisonTru]

Are you saying they left some doubt?

Don't worry, they're in for rude awakening this year.

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[MNLonghorn10]

As far as the shit hawks go, there is 6-7 teams on that poll ranked below them that should be ranked ahead of them!!! They played nobody last year and it showed glaringly in the playoffs!!! They have to prove themselves!

Dont know how long youve been following FCS polls...but anything after about 6 or 7 is interchangeable for the next 10 spots. the talent level gap between the top 3 teams and teams 6-16 or 17 is pretty massive. Teams who play in absolute shit conferences but pad the wins vs middle of the pack teams from good a good conference mesh together

[eman]

Dont know how long youve been following FCS polls...but anything after about 6 or 7 is interchangeable for the next 10 spots. the talent level gap between the top 3 teams and teams 6-16 or 17 is pretty massive. Teams who play in absolute shit conferences but pad the wins vs middle of the pack teams from good a good conference mesh together

Long enough! And I agree after the top 3 or 4 there is a big gap! I just have a hatred for that team going back to the NCC days, I have NO respect for them whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[taper]

I'm not worried about UND's preseason rank. They won't be able to hide behind a weak schedule this year, things will sort themselves out quickly.

[MNLonghorn10]

Well deserved ranking for Sam Houston. Well done voters.

[Bison bison]

Yep, watching the 4th quarter of that game borders on orgasmic!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQf2TiwBFHo

[Bison03]

1
James Madison (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0196) (0-0)
4034 (134)
NR


2
North Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0309) (0-0)
3874 (19)
NR


3
Sam Houston State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0184) (0-0)
3610 (7)
NR


4
South Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0312) (0-0)
3385 (2)
NR


5
Eastern Washington (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0113) (0-0)
3270
NR


6
Jacksonville State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0247) (0-0)
3081 (1)
NR


7
Richmond (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0198) (0-0)
3041
NR


8
North Dakota (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0308) (0-0)
2871
NR


9
Youngstown State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0225) (0-0)
2658
NR


10
Villanova (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0199) (0-0)
2628
NR


11
Wofford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0267) (0-0)
2543
NR


12
Chattanooga (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0177) (0-0)
1995
NR


13
New Hampshire (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0205) (0-0)
1741
NR


14
Charleston Southern (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0211) (0-0)
1710
NR


15
Central Arkansas (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0268) (0-0)
1685
NR


16
Citadel (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0172) (0-0)
1545
NR


17
Lehigh (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0164) (0-0)
1369
NR


18
UNI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0123) (0-0)
924
NR


19
Samford (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0218) (0-0)
893
NR


20
Illinois State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0121) (0-0)
876
NR


21
Grambling State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0189) (0-0)
692
NR


22
Fordham (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0161) (0-0)
604
NR


23
Cal Poly (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0108) (0-0)
427
NR


24
Albany (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0546) (0-0)
418
NR


25
Western Illinois (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0126) (0-0)
367
NR

[DM05]

I'm not worried about UND's preseason rank. They won't be able to hide behind a weak schedule this year, things will sort themselves out quickly.

Their schedule is mildly stronger this year. Utah and USD in the non-con, EWU at home in Big Sky. The rest of their conference schedule is against teams picked to finish 6-12 in a 13 team league. Not like that's a murder's row or anything.

[EndZoneQB]

Honestly, I feel a better case could be made for UND @#3 than SHSU. Not saying they belong there, but I feel like it would be easier to stomach. Still no idea how SHSU is above SDSU.

[Professor Chaos]

Honestly, I feel a better case could be made for UND @#3 than SHSU. Not saying they belong there, but I feel like it would be easier to stomach. Still no idea how SHSU is above SDSU.
Because its the STATS poll and apparently they have a significant voter bloc with raging mega boners for SHSU. Last year this poll had them as clear #1 after NDSU lost to SDSU and kept them that way all the way through Selection Sunday when the selection committee seeded them #5.

[thebigund]

Their schedule is mildly stronger this year. Utah and USD in the non-con, EWU at home in Big Sky. The rest of their conference schedule is against teams picked to finish 6-12 in a 13 team league. Not like that's a murder's row or anything.

Last season in our "cupcake" schedule the pre season rankings of our conference opponents were very poor. As it turned out we played every top 7 team other than EWU and ourselves. Just like every year nobody knows the true strength of a schedule til much later in the year.

[MNLonghorn10]

Last season in our "cupcake" schedule the pre season rankings of our conference opponents were very poor. As it turned out we played every top 7 team other than EWU and ourselves. Just like every year nobody knows the true strength of a schedule til much later in the year.

what?



it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know whos going to be good in FCS. Its NDSU, whoever can beat NDSU(JMU, SDSU), then everybody else.

[barnwintersportsengelstad]

what?



it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know whos going to be good in FCS. Its NDSU, whoever can beat NDSU(JMU, SDSU), then everybody else.

From a preseason perspective, I'll give you that.

[bison_by_blood]

what?



it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know whos going to be good in FCS. Its NDSU, whoever can beat NDSU(JMU, SDSU), then everybody else.

Hmmm, did you have JMU and YSU being in the title game this time last year? JMU was 12 and YSU just missed the preseason rankings in 2016. More like their are roughly 20 teams that have a shot to win it all, barring a miracle. Usually about 5 will prove themselves ahead of the rest by playoff time.

[Mr Meaty]

Hmmm, did you have JMU and YSU being in the title game this time last year? JMU was 12 and YSU just missed the preseason rankings in 2016. More like their are roughly 20 teams that have a shot to win it all, barring a miracle. Usually about 5 will prove themselves ahead of the rest by playoff time.

I would agree with this. I would say there are 10 teams in FCS that are capable of winning the title. But only maybe 4-5 of them show up each and every year. You will have a one year wonder here and there. Then despite their terrible conference SHSU is always around but when playoffs come lately it is a bad bad deal for them. NDSU, SDSU (win a big game once), JMU(I think they are here to stay), Richmond & EWU. The rest of the field will make up the other 5-6 teams. A dark horse could always come from nowhere to get to the title game. Once in the title game anything can happen.

[MNLonghorn10]

Hmmm, did you have JMU and YSU being in the title game this time last year? JMU was 12 and YSU just missed the preseason rankings in 2016. More like their are roughly 20 teams that have a shot to win it all, barring a miracle. Usually about 5 will prove themselves ahead of the rest by playoff time.Nope. And they got taken to the woodshed in the championship. winning at Jacksonville and ewu isn't an easy task so kudos there

Point still stands. Ndsu killed ysu also last year

[Bison03]

Coaches Poll:



2017 Preseason FCS Coaches Poll



Team (First-Place Votes)
W-L
Pts
Prev


1
James Madison (20)
14-1
642
1


2
North Dakota State (2)
12-2
618
3


3
Sam Houston State (3)
12-1
577
5


4
Eastern Washington
12-2
525
4


5
Jacksonville State
10-2
493
6


6
South Dakota State (1)
9-4
479
7


7
Richmond
10-4
474
8


8
Youngstown State
12-4
450
2


9
Villanova
9-4
413
13


10
North Dakota
9-3
412
12


11
Wofford
10-4
381
11


12
The Citadel
10-2
333
9


13
Chattanooga
9-4
330
10


14
Charleston Southern
7-4
261
14


15
Central Arkansas
10-3
251
16


16
New Hampshire
10-3
244
17


17
Lehigh
9-3
177
18


18
Illinois State
6-6
149
N/R


19
Samford
7-5
144
23


20
Northern Iowa
5-6
136
N/R


21
Grambling State
12-1
133
15


22
Weber State
7-5
102
24


23
Cal Poly
7-5
85
21t


24
North Carolina Central
9-3
83
19


25
North Carolina A&T
9-3
78
20

[MNLonghorn10]

lmfao. Sam Houston got more 1st place votes than NDSU?

[oldmantutters]

It's ridiculous how the coaches poll is consistently the worst.

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[jacksfan29]

It's ridiculous how the coaches poll is consistently the worst.

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Because the coaches don't vote. Most of the time the vote is completed by an assistant SID.

[Professor Chaos]

Because the coaches don't vote. Most of the time the vote is completed by an assistant SID.
I doubt the coaches would do any better if they did vote. They have little to no familiarity with teams they haven't played or haven't seen on film playing one of their opponents.

[barnwintersportsengelstad]

I doubt the coaches would do any better if they did vote. They have little to no familiarity with teams they haven't played or haven't seen on film playing one of their opponents.

They should scrap the coaches poll.

[UncleBuck]

Has anybody brought up that maybe JMU is number 1 because they have dead voters? Just sayin' if one of there students can do it for the election . . .

[Son of a Bison]

Has there been anymore talk about the JMU suspensions from last year's playoffs? I remember there were suspensions but never heard an honest answer why. I think some other teams were also involved.

[Christopher Moen]

Has there been anymore talk about the JMU suspensions from last year's playoffs? I remember there were suspensions but never heard an honest answer why. I think some other teams were also involved.

Never heard about SDSU's either. Can't remember if YSU's were publicized.


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[BisonNation11]

Figured this was as good as any place to post. Listened to The Insiders today (rare occasion for me due to work schedule) and they were talking with SHSU Radio guy (Cooter I believe was his name). Came off as a complete homer to me. Like delusional homer. Said Briscoe was 30% during the JMU game due to a late injury the week before and had a migraine. Said if he would have been healthy, score would have been 65-61, you name the winner... Completely blew off the fact they've been blown out in the playoffs 3 straight years. Random excuses for each year, quiet mumbling. Says there are no holes in there team outside of one position where coaches simply haven't locked in a position. WR are best on the planet. Deepest DL anywhere. Just rubbed me wrong from the word go. It's ok to be supportive of where you work, but take the glasses off and see the world as it really is.

[EC8CH]

I liked Fritz. Keeler bugs me. I like seeing them get bounced from the playoffs each year in an increasingly hilarious fashion.

Hard to argue they aren't over rated each year when they have a record of being embarrassed against real competition in the playoffs three years running.

[Professor Chaos]

Figured this was as good as any place to post. Listened to The Insiders today (rare occasion for me due to work schedule) and they were talking with SHSU Radio guy (Cooter I believe was his name). Came off as a complete homer to me. Like delusional homer. Said Briscoe was 30% during the JMU game due to a late injury the week before and had a migraine. Said if he would have been healthy, score would have been 65-61, you name the winner... Completely blew off the fact they've been blown out in the playoffs 3 straight years. Random excuses for each year, quiet mumbling. Says there are no holes in there team outside of one position where coaches simply haven't locked in a position. WR are best on the planet. Deepest DL anywhere. Just rubbed me wrong from the word go. It's ok to be supportive of where you work, but take the glasses off and see the world as it really is.
Those Texas radio guys live and die with their teams....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45lSSMzKGHA

[EC8CH]

That clip is the perfect microcosm for SHSU finishing the regular season and choking in the playoffs.

[THEsocalledfan]

Figured this was as good as any place to post. Listened to The Insiders today (rare occasion for me due to work schedule) and they were talking with SHSU Radio guy (Cooter I believe was his name). Came off as a complete homer to me. Like delusional homer. Said Briscoe was 30% during the JMU game due to a late injury the week before and had a migraine. Said if he would have been healthy, score would have been 65-61, you name the winner... Completely blew off the fact they've been blown out in the playoffs 3 straight years. Random excuses for each year, quiet mumbling. Says there are no holes in there team outside of one position where coaches simply haven't locked in a position. WR are best on the planet. Deepest DL anywhere. Just rubbed me wrong from the word go. It's ok to be supportive of where you work, but take the glasses off and see the world as it really is.

Yep, but boy was that good radio for all those same reasons...... :) Hell, Jeremy asked him a few nasty questions, too. Best was if it bothers the coaches that they've gotten dismantled three times in a row in the playoffs.

[Christopher Moen]

Figured this was as good as any place to post. Listened to The Insiders today (rare occasion for me due to work schedule) and they were talking with SHSU Radio guy (Cooter I believe was his name). Came off as a complete homer to me. Like delusional homer. Said Briscoe was 30% during the JMU game due to a late injury the week before and had a migraine. Said if he would have been healthy, score would have been 65-61, you name the winner... Completely blew off the fact they've been blown out in the playoffs 3 straight years. Random excuses for each year, quiet mumbling. Says there are no holes in there team outside of one position where coaches simply haven't locked in a position. WR are best on the planet. Deepest DL anywhere. Just rubbed me wrong from the word go. It's ok to be supportive of where you work, but take the glasses off and see the world as it really is.

The dude reminded me a lot of F'Hawker fans. No matter how bad the beating was, there was a legit reason for it and they'll get'em next time.

[OrygunBison]

The dude reminded me a lot of F'Hawker fans. No matter how bad the beating was, there was a legit reason for it and they'll get'em next time.

Also reminds me that no matter how good we have it, and no matter how irrelevant it may be to a particular current discussion, some people just can't seem to avoid bringing up UND. Usually those people are the first to tell you how UND doesn't matter, how irrelevant their program is, and how the school isn't a rival.

[Bison 4 Life]

That dude sounded WASTED

[Christopher Moen]

Also reminds me that no matter how good we have it, and no matter how irrelevant it may be to a particular current discussion, some people just can't seem to avoid bringing up UND. Usually those people are the first to tell you how UND doesn't matter, how irrelevant their program is, and how the school isn't a rival.

As long as a parasite exists, it's still relevant. Ignoring doesn't make it go away - that makes it stronger. Beating its arse though, keeps it in check.

[EndZoneQB]

I actually didn't mind him. I expect the home town guy to be a homer and he was good radio. What did you expect him to say? We suck and we can't carry NDSU's jocks. C'mon guys, lighten up.

[MNLonghorn10]

I actually didn't mind him. I expect the home town guy to be a homer and he was good radio. What did you expect him to say? We suck and we can't carry NDSU's jocks. C'mon guys, lighten up.

doesnt hurt to spit the truth when youre on the airwaves in a different state.

[EndZoneQB]

doesnt hurt to spit the truth when youre on the airwaves in a different state.

They didn't bring him on to spit the truth. They brought him on there to pump up SHSU.

[BisonNation11]

I actually didn't mind him. I expect the home town guy to be a homer and he was good radio. What did you expect him to say? We suck and we can't carry NDSU's jocks. C'mon guys, lighten up.
I expect homer, just not Marge, Lisa, Bart and Maggie to join him.

[NDSU92]

I actually didn't mind him. I expect the home town guy to be a homer and he was good radio. What did you expect him to say? We suck and we can't carry NDSU's jocks. C'mon guys, lighten up.

Honestly from what I've heard, I assume 99% of non-MVFC radio guys to be absolute homers. We're just spoiled

[ndsubison1]

Figured this was as good as any place to post. Listened to The Insiders today (rare occasion for me due to work schedule) and they were talking with SHSU Radio guy (Cooter I believe was his name). Came off as a complete homer to me. Like delusional homer. Said Briscoe was 30% during the JMU game due to a late injury the week before and had a migraine. Said if he would have been healthy, score would have been 65-61, you name the winner... Completely blew off the fact they've been blown out in the playoffs 3 straight years. Random excuses for each year, quiet mumbling. Says there are no holes in there team outside of one position where coaches simply haven't locked in a position. WR are best on the planet. Deepest DL anywhere. Just rubbed me wrong from the word go. It's ok to be supportive of where you work, but take the glasses off and see the world as it really is.

I thought he was entertaining, but yes disagreed on the Briscoe thing. JMU was the best team last season, no doubt about that. The SLC has been average last few seasons. The MVC prepares the conference for the playoffs, the SLC doesnt.

[barnwintersportsengelstad]

Also reminds me that no matter how good we have it, and no matter how irrelevant it may be to a particular current discussion, some people just can't seem to avoid bringing up UND. Usually those people are the first to tell you how UND doesn't matter, how irrelevant their program is, and how the school isn't a rival.

You've got it.

[THEsocalledfan]

They didn't bring him on to spit the truth. They brought him on there to pump up SHSU.

I am not understanding why folks did not enjoy that interview. It was very entertaining; wish they'd have him on every week. I love good comedy.

[MNLonghorn10]

They didn't bring him on to spit the truth. They brought him on there to pump up SHSU.You can pump up shsu but also know when it comes to the playoffs and playing actual teams, they lose by 4 tds.

They call that "slow your role in the biz

[oldmantutters]

He was about as objective as "Kneepads" Schlossman up in GF.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

You can pump up shsu but also know when it comes to the playoffs and playing actual teams, they lose by 4 tds.

That's why i love SHSU so much. I wish them all the best luck and playoff rankings so they can help us walk to Frisco.

[EC8CH]

I wonder if a player is actually at 30%, what would be their physical abilities?

[Christopher Moen]

I wonder if a player is actually at 30%, what would be their physical abilities?

Honestly, probably restricted to a hospital bed.

[Bisonator98]

I wonder if a player is actually at 30%, what would be their physical abilities?

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/bbaa372bdae7c30d27512f9c0c338b072925bdbc/c=392-9-4065-2771&r=x393&c=520x390/local/-/media/2017/08/11/USATODAY/USATODAY/636380796371988529-USATSI-10206426.jpg

[Mr Meaty]

I wonder if a player is actually at 30%, what would be their physical abilities?

Ask Izzy how he was on his last date!!!!

[TAILG8R]

Ask Izzy how he was on his last date!!!!

Do you really think he can remember that far back?

[IzzyFlexion]

Do you really think he can remember that far back?

Well......now that hurts.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9ZtBmqxo3TA/hqdefault.jpg

[BisonNeil]

Well......now that hurts.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9ZtBmqxo3TA/hqdefault.jpg

I would take Helen Mirren on a date anytime, if that is who it is.

[Bison 4 Life]

I would take Helen Mirren on a date anytime, if that is who it is.

That is absolutely NOT Helen Mirren. When Stripes came out she would have been in her late 30's

[Christopher Moen]

That is absolutely NOT Helen Mirren. When Stripes came out she would have been in her late 30's

That year, she was pretty busy being somewhat hot in Excalibur. I say "somewhat" because of the weirdness of her character and her "relationship" with her brother.

http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/HelenMirren_Excalibur_1981_19.jpg