Proposed 2017 Rules Changes

[IndyBison]

The NCAA rules committee only publishes a rule book every other year so the off year they only consider important safety issues. This is an off year. The committee released their proposed safety changes for this year. They are not final, but it's unusual for them to not be approved. They are:


No more hurdling the offensive line on tries and FGs
Knee pads/pants must cover the knees
Grabbing and pulling down at the name plate area of a jersey can also be a horse collar tackle


Here is the full press release: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/football-rules-committee-recommends-changes-enhance-player-safety

There are a couple POEs, one being the management of sidelines and being more harsh on coaches who come on the field and demonstrably protest a call. We saw a little enforcement last year, but it continues to be an issue. Length of game is also an issue so they are looking at ways to improve it. One you will see this year (if you notice), is the halftime clock will start as soon as the players leave the field and not when the coaches leave the interview (could save an 30-60 seconds). When the clock reaches 0:00 at halftime as well the teams will be ready for the kickoff. Previously there could be a 2-3 minute delay after the halftime clock ran out before teams would be ready and TV tried to fill a couple more slots. They will consider rule changes like not stopping the clock for first downs or restarting the clock sooner after incomplete passes (at least outside of the last 2 minutes of a half).

[Bisonator98]

The NCAA rules committee only publishes a rule book every other year so the off year they only consider important safety issues. This is an off year. The committee released their proposed safety changes for this year. They are not final, but it's unusual for them to not be approved. They are:


No more hurdling the offensive line on tries and FGs
Knee pads/pants must cover the knees
Grabbing and pulling down at the name plate area of a jersey can also be a horse collar tackle


Here is the full press release: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/football-rules-committee-recommends-changes-enhance-player-safety

There are a couple POEs, one being the management of sidelines and being more harsh on coaches who come on the field and demonstrably protest a call. We saw a little enforcement last year, but it continues to be an issue. Length of game is also an issue so they are looking at ways to improve it. One you will see this year (if you notice), is the halftime clock will start as soon as the players leave the field and not when the coaches leave the interview (could save an 30-60 seconds). When the clock reaches 0:00 at halftime as well the teams will be ready for the kickoff. Previously there could be a 2-3 minute delay after the halftime clock ran out before teams would be ready and TV tried to fill a couple more slots. They will consider rule changes like not stopping the clock for first downs or restarting the clock sooner after incomplete passes (at least outside of the last 2 minutes of a half).
Agree with the first 2 but not the third. The whole horse collar rule is ridiculous IMO. How many players have been hurt by horse collar tackles?

[Mr Meaty]

The NCAA rules committee only publishes a rule book every other year so the off year they only consider important safety issues. This is an off year. The committee released their proposed safety changes for this year. They are not final, but it's unusual for them to not be approved. They are:


No more hurdling the offensive line on tries and FGs
Knee pads/pants must cover the knees
Grabbing and pulling down at the name plate area of a jersey can also be a horse collar tackle


Here is the full press release: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/football-rules-committee-recommends-changes-enhance-player-safety

There are a couple POEs, one being the management of sidelines and being more harsh on coaches who come on the field and demonstrably protest a call. We saw a little enforcement last year, but it continues to be an issue. Length of game is also an issue so they are looking at ways to improve it. One you will see this year (if you notice), is the halftime clock will start as soon as the players leave the field and not when the coaches leave the interview (could save an 30-60 seconds). When the clock reaches 0:00 at halftime as well the teams will be ready for the kickoff. Previously there could be a 2-3 minute delay after the halftime clock ran out before teams would be ready and TV tried to fill a couple more slots. They will consider rule changes like not stopping the clock for first downs or restarting the clock sooner after incomplete passes (at least outside of the last 2 minutes of a half).

Why is every sport so worried about length of game/pace of play. The above mentioned things might save 10 minutes. I guess I accept the fact going to a sporting event a basketball game will be roughly 2 hours and football will be right around or over 3 hours. This is barring OT or injury timeouts or something like that. They even want more golf courses to go to larger 6 inch cups to help speed up play. I expect golf to take 4 hours with a foursome playing. I get that all our lives are busy and time is precious.

Couple years ago baseball was going to put up netting from 3rd base all the way to 1st base to help prevent the 1 freak accident of someone getting hit badly by a ball or bat into the stands. If they would not have been on their phone texting it might have been avoided. I have not been to any MLB games to see if they put in all this netting. If they have not and it was just a talking point for a period of time and blew over. Same with pace of play right now. Why is it a problem now and not the past 20 years?

[IndyBison]

Why is every sport so worried about length of game/pace of play. The above mentioned things might save 10 minutes. I guess I accept the fact going to a sporting event a basketball game will be roughly 2 hours and football will be right around or over 3 hours. This is barring OT or injury timeouts or something like that. They even want more golf courses to go to larger 6 inch cups to help speed up play. I expect golf to take 4 hours with a foursome playing. I get that all our lives are busy and time is precious.

Couple years ago baseball was going to put up netting from 3rd base all the way to 1st base to help prevent the 1 freak accident of someone getting hit badly by a ball or bat into the stands. If they would not have been on their phone texting it might have been avoided. I have not been to any MLB games to see if they put in all this netting. If they have not and it was just a talking point for a period of time and blew over. Same with pace of play right now. Why is it a problem now and not the past 20 years?

The length of games continues to increase. There were games at 3:30+ last year. The big elephant in the room is the #1 reason is TV timeouts and producers extending those time outs to commentary. Using the exact sames rules with a lot of passing teams, scoring, and change of possession (other factors that result in extending game time), my D3 games average 2:45. We had several last year that were closer to 2:30. We had none over 3:00. I agree changing the items above will help shorten some, but they won't near the impact of reducing TV time outs. With all the money coming from TV contracts I doubt they will be willing to give up that time.

[Christopher Moen]

Why is every sport so worried about length of game/pace of play.

The attention span of younger generations is getting worse. Right now, they're at the equivalent of a goldfish.

For example, when I was a part of the production team for our Triple-A baseball team in Colorado Springs a few years back, most of the sub-25 year-olds would complain non-stop about how long the game was. The complaining usually every day an hour before first pitch.

[SDbison]

The NCAA rules committee only publishes a rule book every other year so the off year they only consider important safety issues. This is an off year. The committee released their proposed safety changes for this year. They are not final, but it's unusual for them to not be approved. They are:


No more hurdling the offensive line on tries and FGs
Knee pads/pants must cover the knees
Grabbing and pulling down at the name plate area of a jersey can also be a horse collar tackle


Here is the full press release: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/football-rules-committee-recommends-changes-enhance-player-safety

There are a couple POEs, one being the management of sidelines and being more harsh on coaches who come on the field and demonstrably protest a call. We saw a little enforcement last year, but it continues to be an issue. Length of game is also an issue so they are looking at ways to improve it. One you will see this year (if you notice), is the halftime clock will start as soon as the players leave the field and not when the coaches leave the interview (could save an 30-60 seconds). When the clock reaches 0:00 at halftime as well the teams will be ready for the kickoff. Previously there could be a 2-3 minute delay after the halftime clock ran out before teams would be ready and TV tried to fill a couple more slots. They will consider rule changes like not stopping the clock for first downs or restarting the clock soonIzzy still looking for the Fargodome , might find in time for next home game. Need bigger stadium to help Izzy find. er after incomplete passes (at least outside of the last 2 minutes of a half). Just f'ing great....can these people just stop messing with the game of football?????? Wow, all of those new rules are full of subjectivity and will cause all sorts interpretation issues. Really, do these rules make the game better?

[SDbison]

The NCAA rules committee only publishes a rule book every other year so the off year they only consider important safety issues. This is an off year. The committee released their proposed safety changes for this year. They are not final, but it's unusual for them to not be approved. They are:


No more hurdling the offensive line on tries and FGs
Knee pads/pants must cover the knees
Grabbing and pulling down at the name plate area of a jersey can also be a horse collar tackle


Here is the full press release: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/football-rules-committee-recommends-changes-enhance-player-safety

There are a couple POEs, one being the management of sidelines and being more harsh on coaches who come on the field and demonstrably protest a call. We saw a little enforcement last year, but it continues to be an issue. Length of game is also an issue so they are looking at ways to improve it. One you will see this year (if you notice), is the halftime clock will start as soon as the players leave the field and not when the coaches leave the interview (could save an 30-60 seconds). When the clock reaches 0:00 at halftime as well the teams will be ready for the kickoff. Previously there could be a 2-3 minute delay after the halftime clock ran out before teams would be ready and TV tried to fill a couple more slots. They will consider rule changes like not stopping the clock for first downs or restarting the clock soonIzzy still looking for the Fargodome , might find in time for next home game. Need bigger stadium to help Izzy find. er after incomplete passes (at least outside of the last 2 minutes of a half). Just f'ing great....can these people stop messing with the game of football?????? Wow, all of those new rules are full of subjectivity and will cause all sorts interpretation issues. Really, do these rules make the game better?

[ndsubison1]

Why is every sport so worried about length of game/pace of play. The above mentioned things might save 10 minutes. I guess I accept the fact going to a sporting event a basketball game will be roughly 2 hours and football will be right around or over 3 hours. This is barring OT or injury timeouts or something like that. They even want more golf courses to go to larger 6 inch cups to help speed up play. I expect golf to take 4 hours with a foursome playing. I get that all our lives are busy and time is precious.

Couple years ago baseball was going to put up netting from 3rd base all the way to 1st base to help prevent the 1 freak accident of someone getting hit badly by a ball or bat into the stands. If they would not have been on their phone texting it might have been avoided. I have not been to any MLB games to see if they put in all this netting. If they have not and it was just a talking point for a period of time and blew over. Same with pace of play right now. Why is it a problem now and not the past 20 years?

They changed the play clock to try and make the game quicker several years ago. Then teams started going hurry up, throwing more, so of course that prolonged it. They need to stop trying to "fix" the game. Also, what's wrong with a longer game?

[ndsubison1]

Just f'ing great....can these people just stop messing with the game of football?????? Wow, all of those new rules are full of subjectivity and will cause all sorts interpretation issues. Really, do these rules make the game better?

Busybodies. Happening in every sport unfortunately.

[bisonaudit]

Why is every sport so worried about length of game/pace of play. The above mentioned things might save 10 minutes. I guess I accept the fact going to a sporting event a basketball game will be roughly 2 hours and football will be right around or over 3 hours. This is barring OT or injury timeouts or something like that. They even want more golf courses to go to larger 6 inch cups to help speed up play. I expect golf to take 4 hours with a foursome playing. I get that all our lives are busy and time is precious.

Couple years ago baseball was going to put up netting from 3rd base all the way to 1st base to help prevent the 1 freak accident of someone getting hit badly by a ball or bat into the stands. If they would not have been on their phone texting it might have been avoided. I have not been to any MLB games to see if they put in all this netting. If they have not and it was just a talking point for a period of time and blew over. Same with pace of play right now. Why is it a problem now and not the past 20 years?

If a foursome could play a round in only 4 hours on any muni in the country the golf people wouldn't be worried about how long it takes to play. A lot of places it's 5+ hours.

[Mr Meaty]

Busybodies. Happening in every sport unfortunately.

People trying to justify there position in the sport and come up with stupid things that do not add anything to the game other than to say they did something.

[CAS4127]

I find it laughable that 3 rules are directed at player safety, while the other many of the other suggestions belie it: Less time to recovery between plays and rest at halftime.


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[Bisonwinagn]

Two main factors to increased game time is Instant Replay and TV timeouts. Both created and mandated by the media. Now they want to shorten the game so it fits into their time slots. Maybe they should start by eliminating those. Also the NFL seems to manage timeouts to finish the games on time.

[EC8CH]

I am kinda for the complete elimination of the hurdling the line on FG and PATs. It was so inconsistently called before. This should help to simplify the call and eliminate players from attempting to jump the line in the first place.

#2 I think effects our QB directly. Noticed Stick liked to play with his knees exposed last year.

#3 Sucks. More justification to throw a flag on what should be a legal tackle. One step closer to two hand touch.

[HerdBot]

Agree with the first 2 but not the third. The whole horse collar rule is ridiculous IMO. How many players have been hurt by horse collar tackles?

I fully expect in the future to look like this.

Thread: Proposed 2021 Rules Change

1. No tackling
2. No blocking
3. No helmet to helmet contact by any lineman
4. No kickoff
5. No punt returns. Ball placed where it hits or all fair catches.

[yopaulie]

Agree with the first 2 but not the third. The whole horse collar rule is ridiculous IMO. How many players have been hurt by horse collar tackles?

Billy Sims career ended from a horse collar, although helped by the Metrodome's terrible original artificial turf.

[ZHerd]

Gotta love beaurocracy at any level. Stupid rules, red tape, more stupid rules because we can...human nature. Knee pad rule is absolutely idiotic. Leave that up to the players. They've played for years and understand the risks...which probably aren't that great. Hey here is a player safety idea, let's ban football in America and play soccer, or maybe hop scotch

[Christopher Moen]

Billy Sims career ended from a horse collar, although helped by the Metrodome's terrible original artificial turf.

That dude could get some airtime when needed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0O7973Ew8A

[ZHerd]

Maybe the "rules committee" can pass some sort of rule that makes it immensely harder to pass rules. It would be the best committee ever

[bisonaudit]

Why is everyone so pissed about rule changes all of a sudden. 1) they do this kind of thing every year. 2) football is rule crazy, enforcement crazy, structure crazy. It's a command and control sport. Football isn't football without stupid rules and stupid rule changes.

[ZHerd]

Why is everyone so pissed about rule changes all of a sudden. 1) they do this kind of thing every year. 2) football is rule crazy, enforcement crazy, structure crazy. It's a command and control sport. Football isn't football without stupid rules and stupid rule changes.

The problem is two fold: 1) that the rules are continually increasing (I doubt just changing), and 2) that they are stupid. "Control" can get out of hand, to the place where they are replacing something with something worse. Imo #2&3 are "something worse." People get hurt biking, surfing, and tilling their gardens. That doesn't mean those things need more control. They are things with known associated risks that people are unfazed by and enjoy. I wish the committee would take a few years off.

[HerdBot]

Maybe the "rules committee" can pass some sort of rule that makes it immensely harder to pass rules. It would be the best committee ever

Or for every rule they make, they have to remove 2 old rules

[1993bison]

People trying to justify there position in the sport and come up with stupid things that do not add anything to the game other than to say they did something.
Justify their existence. Just like many government positions.

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[1993bison]

Maybe the "rules committee" can pass some sort of rule that makes it immensely harder to pass rules. It would be the best committee ever
Yeah ok
That would be like politicians passing term limits.

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[barnwintersportsengelstad]

Two main factors to increased game time is Instant Replay and TV timeouts. Both created and mandated by the media. Now they want to shorten the game so it fits into their time slots. Maybe they should start by eliminating those. Also the NFL seems to manage timeouts to finish the games on time.

Absolutely, instant replay and TV timeouts is were the extra time is consumed.