Official 2017 Signing Day Thread!

[HerdBot]

Finally... it's here! Faxes start rolling in early this morning! Will we have any surprise signings?

Interesting coverage this year. Early morning it will be all Twitter for updates. Then there is a Facebook Live video stream at 9:45 am. Then its all Bison1660 radio coverage. It goes all day until 8 pm including hourly updates!

Looks like there will be everything from interviews with recruits, coaches, and other guests all day on Bison1660. Coach Chris Klieman, Nick Goeser, Ross Uglum, and more will be on The Insiders from 11-1.

If your from outside of Fargo... download the Bison 1660 Mobile App or stream online.



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Here is the official NDSU signing day coverage announcement from NDSU... http://gobison.com/news/2017/1/24/general-full-coverage-available-for-feb-1-national-signing-day.aspx

SIGNING DAY COVERAGE / SCHEDULE

National Signing Day for the North Dakota State University football and women's soccer teams is Wednesday, Feb. 1, and Bison fans will enjoy full coverage throughout the day on NDSU's official social media accounts, GoBison.com, and Bison 1660.

7:00 a.m. – Follow our official @NDSUfootball and @NDSUsoccer accounts on Twitter to find out who the latest recruits are to sign their National Letter of Intent, and visit GoBison.com for photos, videos and player information.

9:45 a.m. to 10:45 a.m. – Watch our live video stream on the official @NDBison Facebook page and submit your questions for the coaches as they join host Jeremy Jorgenson to break down this year's recruiting class.

11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. – Listen to "The Insiders" with Jeff Culhane and Jeremy Jorgenson live on Bison 1660 AM and 92.7 FM or online at Bison1660.com and the Bison 1660 mobile app for a complete breakdown of the signing class and interviews.

2:00 p.m. – Listen to the NDSU Signing Day Press Conference live on Bison 1660 (92.7 FM) or watch live on GoBison.com/allaccess as head football coach Chris Klieman and head women's soccer coach Mark Cook comment and field questions about their signing classes.

4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. – Listen to "The BrakeDown" with Keith Brake live on Bison 1660 AM and 92.7 FM or online at Bison1660.com and the Bison 1660 mobile app for the latest from NDSU and around the sports world.

6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. – Tune in to Bison 1660 broadcasting live from the NDSU Signing Day Party as NDSU coaches join hosts Keith Brake and Jeremy Jorgenson to wrap-up the 2017 national signing day.




SIGNING DAY PARTY TONIGHT

5:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. – Join NDSU coaches, staff and fans at the annual NDSU Signing Day Party at the Ramada Plaza Suites Crystal Ballroom. Tickets are $40 per person and on sale at GoBison.com/tickets through Monday, Jan. 30. Buffet dinner served at 6:30 p.m. with a program starting at 7:30 p.m.


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Off topic but not really.....

LOCKER ROOM DONATIONS
This class appears to be very impressive and you win with players. If you want to make an impact as a fan, you can donate to the Football locker room fund on GoBison.com so we can WOW recruits for our 2018 class with an impressive locker room facility. It's going to be a pretty kick ass upgrade but it's also expensive as hell. (between a half million to a million) It's all about first impressions and our locker room is pretty lame compared to most teams in our conference who are upping their facilities big time. I know... you don't win recruits with locker rooms BUT when you have a player whose on the fringe.. every little detail counts. It could be the difference between finding our next Carson Wentz, Kyle Emmanual, Billy Turner, Marcus Williams, CJ Smith or losing them to another team in the conference. There is no minimum and you don't have to donate huge amounts, just chip in something so they can get it done even if it's only like $25 bucks. But the more the better!

HOW TO DONATE

1) Go to http://ndsuathleticfund.com
2) Click "Give Now button
3) Choose "Football Locker room fund. "

[HerdBot]

NAME POS HT WT HOMETOWN PREV SCHOOL
Holden Hotchkiss QB 6-4 205 Lakeland, Fla. Lakeland HS
Joshua Hayes S 6-0 175 Lakeland, Fla. Lake Gibson HS
Christian Watson WR 6-2 190 Tampa, Fla. Plant HS
Mason Hofstedt ATH 6-0 185 Cannon Falls, Minn. Cannon Falls HS
Jack Begley LB 6-3 205 Omaha, Neb. Millard North HS
Logan McCormick DE 6-2 235 Appleton, Wis. Kimberly HS
Zach Willis OL 6-3 315 Fargo, N.D. West Fargo HS
Costner Ching TE/FB 6-3 250 Castlewood, S.D. Castlewood HS
Michael Tutsie S 5-11 185 Indianapolis, Ind. Warren Central HS
Austin Avery TE/FB 6-3 225 Yorkville, Ill. Yorkville HS
Jake Reinholz K 6-2 175 Fargo, N.D. Shanley HS
Spencer Waege DE 6-4 232 South Shore, S.D. Watertown HS
Nash Jensen OL 6-4 350 Maple Grove, Minn. Osseo HS
Josh Babicz TE 6-5 228 Barrington, Ill. Barrington HS
Cody Mauch TE 6-5 221 Hankinson, N.D. Hankinson HS
Brant Bohmert WR 5-11 174 Fargo, N.D. Northern Cass HS
Noah Sanders QB 6-3 201 Lakeville, Minn. Apple Valley HS
Lane Tucker DT 6-3 255 Gillette, Wyo. Campbell County HS
Seth Wilson RB 5-10 195 Holmen, Wis. Holmen HS
Max Bautch LB 6-1 205 Ham Lake, Minn. Blaine HS
Tanner Sundt DE 6-3 237 Farmington, Minn. Farmington HS
Noah Gindorff TE 6-6 235 Crosby, Minn. Crosby-Ironton HS
Andy Voyen WR 6-2 205 Stillwater, Minn. Mahtomedi HS
Carson Yaggie ATH 6-2 181 Breckenridge, Minn. Breckenridge HS
Dawson Weber CB 6-1 189 Elk Grove, Calif. Pleasant Grove HS

[HerdBot]

Media podcasts today

Signing Day Special Full Show
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/bison-signing-day-special-full-show

The Insiders Signing Day Full Show
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-insiders-signing-day-2017-feb-1-2017-full-show

Ross Uglem Joins The Insiders To Talk Bison Signing Day 2 - 1-17
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/ross-uglem-joins-the-insiders-to-talk-bison-signing-day-2-1-17

Bison Recruiting Coordinator Nick Goeser Feb. 1, 2017
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/bison-recruiting-coordinator-nick-goeser-feb-1-2017

Bison Head Coach Chris Klieman on Signing Day Feb. 1, 2017
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/bison-head-coach-chris-klieman-on-signing-day-feb-1-2017

Ross Uglem Joins The Insiders To Talk Bison Signing Day 2 - 1-17
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/ross-uglem-joins-the-insiders-to-talk-bison-signing-day-2-1-17

Michael Tutsie Feb. 1, 2017
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/michael-tutsie-feb-1-2017

Zach Willis Feb. 1, 2017
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/zach-willis-feb-1-2017

Bison 1660 Football Analyst, Christian Dudzik on "The Brakedown" Wednesday, February 1st
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/bison-1660-football-analyst-christian-dudzik-on-the-brakedown-wednesday-february-1st

Hero Sports Senior Writer, Brian McLaughlin on "The Brakedown" Wednesday, February 1st
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/hero-sports-senior-writer-brian-mclaughlin-on-the-brakedown-wednesday-february-1st

Chris Klieman Signing Day Press Conference Wednesday, February 1st
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/chris-klieman-signing-day-press-conference-wednesday-february-1st


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBTgD_jZrT8

[Bison20]

Hopefully there will be one big suprise that we didn't see coming. You would think the coaches have been trying to get another we the last few days. Think the coaches did well at the safety spot lately with Tutsie and Josh hayes and Dawson webber at cb but could use another cb too.

[Jay]

Christian Watson has signed. Welcome to Bison Nation! Going to be a playmaking WR!

http://www.scout.com/player/209270-christian-watson/news?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieBRORUSJgA

[Jay]

QB1, Holden Hotchkiss has signed!

http://www.scout.com/player/197627-holden-hotchkiss/news?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDZk5iA18SM

[Jay]

Josh Hayes joins the wolfpack. He's a baby Bison!

http://www.scout.com/player/214054-joshua-hayes/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9wrG-JVc1k

[bruinbison]

Welcome to the Florida players!
Was hoping for an extra FLA surprise signing, but Coach P's tweet
includes the phrase "Florida is in" after the 3rd LOI arrived, so I'll
interpret that as a no for any additional Florida players, at least for now.

[Jay]

Jack Begley joins Code Green & the Head Hunters! Welcome!

http://www.scout.com/player/205956-jack-begley/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oisArP7vxhU

[Jay]

The first of our extremely talented defensive line and Alley Cat class is in, Logan McCormick!

http://www.scout.com/player/202672-logan-mccormick/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtpBS-LRcQM

[Jay]

RAMS! Zach Willis has signed. Keeping the local talent right where it should be, at NDSU!

http://www.scout.com/player/206837-zach-willis?s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7XPW-90qOo

[Jay]

Another wolf in the pack! Michael Tutsie signs!

http://www.scout.com/player/205254-michael-tutsie/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PWdEG9ohI4

[Jay]

Austin Avery joins the Crew Chiefs! Welcome aboard!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqYm9DDJUaQ

[bisonpride4ever]

Austin Avery joins the Crew Chiefs! Welcome aboard!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqYm9DDJUaQ

I think he might have killed that guy right at the end of the video. That looked like a Bison hitting a bunny at full speed. #squish


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[Jay]

Mason Hofstedt, welcome aboard! Projects as a OLB/athlete.

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[Jay]

Costner Ching joins the crew chiefs!

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[Jay]

Jake Reinholz is a baby Bison! Someone get him a kickers facemask!

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[Jay]

Another alley cat! Spencer Waege, welcome aboard!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wob-7EG7paw

[Bisonator98]

Jake Reinholz is a baby Bison! Someone get him a kickers facemask!

LOL I love a kicker with attitude!

[Loud and Proud Bison fan]

Question.. realistically how many scholarships are not given out to commits, in case someone flips? Like PGT did to UNI, we had to have extra scholarship money sitting around.

[Bisonator98]

Question.. realistically how many scholarships are not given out to commits, in case someone flips? Like PGT did to UNI, we had to have extra scholarship money sitting around.

I think we usually have 2-4 scholarships on the shelf every year. Most schools don't use the full 63 available.

[Jay]

Noah Sanders, the top rated QB in Minnesota by Northstar Recruiting network! Welcome aboard!

http://www.scout.com/player/205470-noah-sanders/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

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[Jay]

Nash Jensen joins the RAMS!

http://www.scout.com/player/203380-nash-jensen/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDFLUQeS4mA

[Jay]

Another crew chief! Josh Babicz, welcome aboard!

http://www.scout.com/player/209112-josh-babicz/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84wIOAfXDnA

[Jay]

Crew Chief! Another one! Cody Mauch...

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[Jay]

In-state slot back Brant Bohmert!

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[Jay]

This is a big one... Lane Tucker is a Bison!!

http://www.scout.com/player/207169-lane-tucker/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnRlRBcAG7g

[Jay]

Seth Wilson! Welcome to The Machines!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N87UMbZsdLk

[Jay]

Max Bautch, a great PWO and Head Hunter!

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[Jay]

Tanner Sundt, another Alley Cat!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFygzaVX5Eo

[Jay]

One of the biggest wins of this recruiting cycle, a Crew Chief, Noah Gindorff is a Bison!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBz7aysTAyM

[Jay]

Andy Voyen, welcome to BisoNation!

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[Jay]

Waiting on two more, Carson Yaggie and Dawson Weber who is just waking up on the west coast.

[SDbison]

Welcome 2017 recruits! Nice to see the graphics for each player that often includes video. LOL at SDSU message board signing day thread. Each post says, "insert name" is in.

[SDbison]

Waiting on two more, Carson Yaggie and Dawson Weber who is just waking up on the west coast. So is that all that is left to sign? Will there be any surprise additions? I think we already know who were the late defectors up until yesterday, and I assume there are no more.

[MNLonghorn10]

Welcome 2017 recruits! Nice to see the graphics for each player that often includes video. LOL at SDSU message board signing day thread. Each post says, "insert name" is in.
That was depressing to read

[HerdBot]

so who are we still waiting on?

[Jay]

So is that all that is left to sign? Will there be any surprise additions? I think we already know who were the late defectors up until yesterday, and I assume there are no more.

I wouldn't be shocked to see an additional DT with the Metz news today. But I wouldn't be shocked to see Costner Ching move to that side of the ball.

[BismarckBisonFan]

so who are we still waiting on?

Yaggie and Weber.

[SDbison]

That was depressing to read Just think if you were a rabbit fan, player, etc.

[HerdBot]

Awesome job Jay!!

[phxbison]

So I'm wondering who this recruit is that Ross Uglem and Ryan Burns were alluding to ? They mentioned a recruit that was going to sign but they promised him they wouldn't reveal his name as he wanted to announce it himself.

[HerdBot]

Just think if you were a rabbit fan, player, etc.

I don't see Paup on their list today. Nor do I see the 2 kids from Hopkins.

[BismarckBisonFan]

I don't see Paup on their list today. Nor do I see the 2 kids from Hopkins.
Same with Hill. Thought he flipped to the Jacks..

[Jay]

Welcome aboard, Carson Yaggie! Keeping the family tradition alive!

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[SUBISON247]

QB1, Holden Hotchkiss has signed!

http://www.scout.com/player/197627-holden-hotchkiss/news?year=2016&s=564

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDZk5iA18SM

Is this a preview of a Green on Green look for next season??? It looks good to me.

[RossUglem]

So I'm wondering who this recruit is that Ross Uglem and Ryan Burns were alluding to ? They mentioned a recruit that was going to sign but they promised him they wouldn't reveal his name as he wanted to announce it himself.

Suppose it would be acceptable to talk about it now. Cam Hairston verballed to the staff and notified me as well. Cam's family went a different direction, Cam never announced and he committed to UConn a few days later.

[Bisonator98]

Congrats to all of the signee's and welcome to the Bison!

I'm a little concerned with so few OL and DL recruits in this class. How many of the TE's project to OL or DL?

[Jay]

Congrats to all of the signee's and welcome to the Bison!

I'm a little concerned with so few OL and DL recruits in this class. How many of the TE's project to OL or DL?

Our DL class is phenomenal. What we may lack in #'s, all were at the top of our recruiting big board.

[SDbison]

Congrats to all of the signee's and welcome to the Bison!

I'm a little concerned with so few OL and DL recruits in this class. How many of the TE's project to OL or DL? Yeah, where's the beef? I know we got 2 big guys in Nash Jensen and Zach Willis!

[Bisonator98]

Our DL class is phenomenal. What we may lack in #'s, all were at the top of our recruiting big board.

Yeah I miscounted the DL. Looks like 4 studs there. I would hope a few of the TE's can play OL with only 2 OL listed. Can never have enough bodies on the lines, injuries are a given there.

[Jay]

C


Karson Schoening

Christian Triplett
Tanner Volson
Austin Kuhnert
Max Polson


OG

Nash Jensen
Ben Hecht
Jack Albrecht
Luke Bacon
Zack Ziemer
Bryce Messner


OT


Cordell Volson
Dillon Radunz
Josh Howieson
Zack Johnson
Colin Conner
Erik Olson


OL

Zach Willis
Michael Kelly
Zach Kubas









DT

Lane Tucker
Matthew Biegler
Quinn Alo
Connor Hubbs
Jack Darnell
Aaron Steidl
Blake Williams
Grant Morgan
Nate Tanguay


DE

Logan McCormick
Spencer Waege
Tanner Sundt
Justice Kelly
Cole Karcz
Derrek Tuszka
Caleb Butler
Stanley Jones
Greg Menard
Jarrod Tuszka



We have a lot of redshirt OL waiting in the wings. You'll see a push in next years recruiting cycle again for OL.

[17>1]

Yeah, where's the beef?

*see last years OL class

I think we ended up with 7 OL and a couple of DT's last year, plus a couple of more of each this year, I think we're pretty well set for now.

[Bison 4 Life]

Just as an aside, has anyone seen Billy Turner's welcome to the recruiting class? Looks like living in Colorado is agreeing with him. :rofl:

[SDbison]

*see last years OL class

I think we ended up with 7 OL and a couple of DT's last year, plus a couple of more of each this year, I think we're pretty well set for now. I just updated the post you replied to with, "I know we got 2 big guys in Nash Jensen and Zach Willis!"

[Bisonator98]

Just as an aside, has anyone seen Billy Turner's welcome to the recruiting class? Looks like living in Colorado is agreeing with him. :rofl:

Link?......

[RedRiver]

Live video on now with Coach K & JJ on Facebook live @ NDBison. They are discussing each recruit and taking questions.

[EC8CH]

Link?......

Yea Mon:

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/826818248343691264

[Vet70]

Yea Mon:

https://twitter.com/NDSUfootball/status/826818248343691264

I thought it was the reincarnation of Bob Marley :rofl:.

[thebigund]

What channel is your signing day special on?

[Jay]

Dawson Weber's fax just rolled in! Welcome to the Wolf Pack!

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[Bison 4 Life]

Well Dawson Weber is in. I can breathe easy now. That's all the commits, right?

[Bison 4 Life]

What channel is your signing day special on?

It's 2017. Who uses channels anymore?

http://il5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/9002407/thumb/1.jpg

[phxbison]

Suppose it would be acceptable to talk about it now. Cam Hairston verballed to the staff and notified me as well. Cam's family went a different direction, Cam never announced and he committed to UConn a few days later.

Thanks Ross, that's all I wanted too know. Keep up the good work !

[Jay]

Well Dawson Weber is in. I can breathe easy now. That's all the commits, right?

25 are in. We are done for the day. Great job coaches! Celebrate the rest of the day and see ya tonight!

[thebigund]

It's 2017. Who uses channels anymore?

http://il5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/9002407/thumb/1.jpg

O yea, your signing day special is on the radio, isn't that some newfangled form of media? These kids and their radios.... rotting their brains.

[Bison 4 Life]

O yea, your signing day special is on the radio, isn't that some newfangled form of media? These kids and their radios.... rotting their brains.

I've been watching Coach K talk about all the recruits on Facebook live for the last 20 minutes. You're so old media.

[thebigund]

I've been watching Coach K talk about all the recruits on Facebook live for the last 20 minutes. You're so old media.

We've had live coverage on everything but chat roulette.

[Bisonator98]

O yea, your signing day special is on the radio, isn't that some newfangled form of media? These kids and their radios.... rotting their brains.

Does Bubbles even know how to tweet?

[Jay]

The coaches commenting/asking questions in the FB Live feed is great stuff!

[thebigund]

Does Bubbles even know how to tweet?

https://twitter.com/BubbaSchweigert

[Honeybooboo]

https://twitter.com/BubbaSchweigert

GTFO of this thread, my god

[SDbison]

The coaches commenting/asking questions in the FB Live feed is great stuff! I don't facebook.

[EC8CH]

What channel is your signing day special on?

What does the backdrop for your signing day special look like?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3l9DN1VMAAtjVr.jpg

[HerdBot]

O yea, your signing day special is on the radio, isn't that some newfangled form of media? These kids and their radios.... rotting their brains.

Yeah... Nobody listens to streaming media or podcasts on mobile devices. Internet radio? That'll never work

Of course it helps when the radio station is giving 8 straight hours of coverage

[cbline]

What does the backdrop for your signing day special look like?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3l9DN1VMAAtjVr.jpg

The F'n Hawks have that awesome helmet car, duh!!! :)

[thebigund]

The F'n Hawks have that awesome helmet car, duh!!! :)

Live from an actual indoor practice facility

[THEsocalledfan]

We've had live coverage on everything but chat roulette.

So, UNDies, of the players who had head to head NDSU vs UND offers, how many did UND score this year?

[DM05]

Live from an actual indoor practice facility

Just because no one is in the Alerus when you guys play doesn't mean you should call it a practice facility.

[Bisonator98]

Live from an actual indoor practice facility

Doing live sit downs in a practice facility? Very professional.

[thebigund]

So, UNDies, of the players who had head to head NDSU vs UND offers, how many did UND score this year?

Who knows, you guys usually don't admit to offers and say you pulled the money which allowed UND to get a player. Doesn't matter anyway, not like NDSU offered Santiago or Reyes.

[thebigund]

Doing live sit downs in a practice facility? Very professional.


Not literally. Just pointing out that you guys are very behind in facilities. Our interviews are from a professional TV studio, not the lobby of coaches offices. The actual TV broadcast is also being live streamed to the youngsters.

[EC8CH]

Live from an actual indoor practice facility

So just to compare, one program is able to highlight a half century of success with 13 National Championships, the other has an indoor practice facility to show off.

[thebigund]

So just to compare, one program is able to highlight a half century of success with 13 National Championships, the other has an indoor practice facility to show off.

Was there room for the 2017 trophy on that shelf?

[siouxfan512]

Does Bubbles even know how to tweet?

I believe he is contracting that work out to President Trump :)

[Bisonator98]

Not literally. Just pointing out that you guys are very behind in facilities. Our interviews are from a professional TV studio, not the lobby of coaches offices. The actual TV broadcast is also being live streamed to the youngsters.

Yeah very behind. We all dream of an IPF with a track and cut off practice field.:rofl:

[HoopsBison]

Congrats to all the new Bison players and the football staff....very excited!

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[siouxfan512]

What does the backdrop for your signing day special look like?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3l9DN1VMAAtjVr.jpg

That is pretty sick! no doubt about it.

[MAKBison]

I believe he is contracting that work out to President Trump :)

I am on to you.....trying to get the thread closed !!

[BisonNeil]

Congrats to all of the signee's and welcome to the Bison!

I'm a little concerned with so few OL and DL recruits in this class. How many of the TE's project to OL or DL?

Ummm, you think four DL recruits is too few? It was going to be five before Metz decided to concentrate on wrestling.

How many did you expect? They got only one last year, 4 in 2015 but one left in camp, three in 2014. They did get 5 in 2013 but that was highly unusual, 2-3 is the normal range. I am not sure they have ever had the kind of potential coming in that they have this year in any previous years when you consider numbers and quality. I am personally thrilled.

I think your thought process that there needed to be more is a bit unrealistic, especially when you consider all four of these guys are scholarship players. Many of the TE prospects are PWOs so there aren't as many scholies tied up as you think.

[EC8CH]

Was there room for the 2017 trophy on that shelf?

Just barely.

Is there going to be any discussion of which sports are getting the axe at UND during this live TV coverage? I might tune in for that.

BTW Midco televising your signing day is just South Dakota's way of trolling UND for their recruiting class.

[Honeybooboo]

Just barely.

Is there going to be any discussion of which sports are getting the axe at UND during this live TV coverage? I might tune in for that.

another thread that has ZERO to do with another school ruined

[Bisonator98]

Ummm, you think four DL recruits is too few? It was going to be five before Metz decided to concentrate on wrestling.

How many did you expect? They got only one last year, 4 in 2015 but one left in camp, three in 2014. They did get 5 in 2013 but that was highly unusual, 2-3 is the normal range. I am not sure they have ever had the kind of potential coming in that they have this year in any previous years when you consider numbers and quality. I am personally thrilled.

I think your thought process that there needed to be more is a bit unrealistic, especially when you consider all four of these guys are scholarship players. Many of the TE prospects are PWOs so there aren't as many scholies tied up as you think.

I admitted I miss counted the DL. Like you stated though things happen and kids don't always stick around for whatever reason it's good to have numbers on the lines IMO.

[siouxfan512]

So, UNDies, of the players who had head to head NDSU vs UND offers, how many did UND score this year?

Not even worth discussing at this point. I really don't have the number or info on who all had offers from both, but clearly NDSU won more battles. I know there have been arguments about whether or not Ott had an offer from NDSU, and frankly I don't care, I'm just glad we have him; looks to be a solid player.

I think the staff know they aren't going to win a lot of battles against NDSU at this point. They are getting closer to where they might be able to entice a few more each year, but its not an even playing field yet. UND has had consistent improvement, but only 1 solid season, and 1 playoff appearance. I'm interested to see if Bubba can now show consistency over the next 2-3 seasons. Then you might see UND winning some more battles. As it is now, UND will certainly offer "some" of the same players, but I think they tend to recruit a different group overall.

[thebigund]

Just barely.

Is there going to be any discussion of which sports are getting the axe at UND during this live TV coverage? I might tune in for that.

The important sports are safe so I'm not worried.

[siouxfan512]

Question for the folks who follow Bison recruiting closely.

Who is the big time QB recruit in this class? I assume the kid from Florida, but how much do you expect the Apple Valley kid to compete? Or is potential to be that future starter, fairly even?

[Bison56]

Ban this idiot so we can get back on topic.

[HerdBot]

Live from an actual indoor practice facility

https://i.imgflip.com/1irnst.jpg

[THEsocalledfan]

Who knows, you guys usually don't admit to offers and say you pulled the money which allowed UND to get a player. Doesn't matter anyway, not like NDSU offered Santiago or Reyes.

So zero I assume based on this response? I know this is the usual answer, but just trying to confirm.

[thebigund]

You guys sign anybody good or what?

[Grizzled]

Just barely.

Is there going to be any discussion of which sports are getting the axe at UND during this live TV coverage? I might tune in for that.

BTW Midco televising your signing day is just South Dakota's way of trolling UND for their recruiting class.

Budget cuts will/should dominate the news for all public ND campuses in the coming weeks. 12% cut for NDSU is not small potatoes but I think we have part of the game plan in place.

[thebigund]

So zero I assume based on this response? I know this is the usual answer, but just trying to confirm.

Ott and JJ for sure but tough to know for sure on anyone else.

[Honeybooboo]

Question for the folks who follow Bison recruiting closely.

Who is the big time QB recruit in this class? I assume the kid from Florida, but how much do you expect the Apple Valley kid to compete? Or is potential to be that future starter, fairly even?

Hotchkiss, was a 3* from some and they like him for his Arm and height. Looks to be a pretty solid player, his team had some major HS recruits and the area teams they played also. His WR core I believe 2 signed with SEC/ACC schools but they also played against Elite DB's.

I think he will be good with Hedberg coaching him.

[Christopher Moen]

You guys sign anybody good or what?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3c/4e/7c/3c4e7c889b4c01542a81a1d521f2da3b.gif


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[DORMIE]

Knew it was going to be a great day for Bison recruiting. I had an early sign. Started my car at 4:40 (I morning stock at Menards at 5:00) and Thunderstruck was playing. Can't make that shit up.

[Vet70]

You guys sign anybody good or what?

Yes, but the day has been a total failure because you have better signing day coverage :rofl:.

[Bison Dan]

You guys sign anybody good or what?
Tell about about the Gibson kid that turned down your scholarship for a DII school?

[CalBison97]

Suppose it would be acceptable to talk about it now. Cam Hairston verballed to the staff and notified me as well. Cam's family went a different direction, Cam never announced and he committed to UConn a few days later.

Ross, appreciate the info you provide. Question: last week on The Insiders you mentioned a former Fleck verbal who was flipping to likely either us or New Mexico St. What was his name and has he committed somewhere?


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[Bison 4 Life]

Just be glad we don't get kids who do shit like this.


https://youtu.be/eWSkF9sPEBc?t=56

[Christopher Moen]

Ross, appreciate the info you provide. Question: last week on The Insiders you mentioned a former Fleck verbal who was flipping to likely either us or New Mexico St. What was his name and has he committed somewhere?


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Marcus Hayes committed to New Mexico.


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[thebigund]

Just be glad we don't get kids who do shit like this.


https://youtu.be/eWSkF9sPEBc?t=56

Even I think that kid is a fucking tool. Just wait for the trickle down of douchbagery by top recruits inspired by this.

[HerdBot]

Who knows, you guys usually don't admit to offers and say you pulled the money which allowed UND to get a player. Doesn't matter anyway, not like NDSU offered Santiago or Reyes.

Sites like rivals, scout, and 24-7 are not run by NDSU so not sure what your talking about. The players themselves provide the info

[thebigund]

Tell about about the Gibson kid that turned down your scholarship for a DII school?

He obviously was scared of our depth chart. Too soft to play defense. We pulled his offer. We never offered him in the first place. Did I miss any classic bisonville excuses?

[CalBison97]

Marcus Hayes committed to New Mexico.


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Yes, that's him. I am surprised he chose that program over ours. We win (games AND championships) and produce NFL talent.


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[HerdBot]

Just be glad we don't get kids who do shit like this.


https://youtu.be/eWSkF9sPEBc?t=56


Even I think that kid is a fucking tool. Just wait for the trickle down of douchbagery by top recruits inspired by this.

That's about the only thing we will all agree on. Not very often I root for a kid to fail...

[Bison20]

He obviously was scared of our depth chart. Too soft to play defense. We pulled his offer. We never offered him in the first place. Did I miss any classic bisonville excuses?

Cause JJ said he would much rather play at und. I'm sure he would have signed at und over ndsu if it wasn't for Minnesota.

[Bisonator98]

Blame ESPN for televising shit like that.

[HerdBot]

He obviously was scared of our depth chart. Too soft to play defense. We pulled his offer. We never offered him in the first place. Did I miss any classic bisonville excuses?

The "we pulled an offer" only applies after we signed players of the same position first. Example: The kid who signed with Navy (Sims) was an offer until we signed Seth Wilson. At that time... no offer is on the table because we only take 1 running back. Then the guy goes out on Twitter and says he's deciding between NDSU, USD, and Navy when he didn't have an offer anymore. Does it only to boost his own stock hoping to get a bigger offer. So if he had chosen USD... they would have claimed to have beaten us when they really didn't. But he chose Navy

[Bison20]

The "we pulled an offer" only applies after we signed players of the same position first. Example: The kid who signed with Navy (Sims) was an offer until we signed Seth Wilson. At that time... no offer is on the table because we only take 1 running back. Then the guy goes out on Twitter and says he's deciding between NDSU, USD, and Navy when he didn't have an offer anymore. Does it only to boost his own stock hoping to get a bigger offer. So if he had chosen USD... they would have claimed to have beaten us when they really didn't. But he chose Navy

He was using an ndsu offer to generate interest. I'm sure und had some good battles for recruits with Valley city and jamestown.

[THEsocalledfan]

The "we pulled an offer" only applies after we signed players of the same position first. Example: The kid who signed with Navy (Sims) was an offer until we signed Seth Wilson. At that time... no offer is on the table because we only take 1 running back. Then the guy goes out on Twitter and says he's deciding between NDSU, USD, and Navy when he didn't have an offer anymore. Does it only to boost his own stock hoping to get a bigger offer. So if he had chosen USD... they would have claimed to have beaten us when they really didn't. But he chose Navy

Just me, but if Sims had interest, he would have signed, so definitely a loss in my book. Same for Christion when NDSU recrutied him out of Sioux Falls, but not as a QB. SDSU clearly won that.

[Christopher Moen]

Yes, that's him. I am surprised he chose that program over ours. We win (games AND championships) and produce NFL talent.


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Remember Brian Urlacher?


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[tolnabison]

Thought I heard over the radio (1660) that Jackson Hankey, from Park River signed with us? I haven't seen any thing yet like our other commits. Maybe I missed it?

[ndsubison1]

Just be glad we don't get kids who do shit like this.


https://youtu.be/eWSkF9sPEBc?t=56

:facepalm:

[DM05]

Thought I heard over the radio (1660) that Jackson Hankey, from Park River signed with us? I haven't seen any thing yet like our other commits. Maybe I missed it?

Heard the same on one of the updates, can't find any confirmation.

[Jay]

Coach K just dropped on 1660 that Hendricks is moving to safety, which makes sense.

[SDbison]

Just me, but if Sims had interest, he would have signed, so definitely a loss in my book. Same for Lujan when NDSU recrutied him out of Sioux Falls, but not as a QB. SDSU clearly won that. I think the SDSU QB you are thinking of is Taryn Christion.

[THEsocalledfan]

I think the SDSU QB you are thinking of is Taryn Christion.

Yep, went back and fixed it.

[tojo70]

This is a big one... Lane Tucker is a Bison!!

http://www.scout.com/player/207169-lane-tucker/recruiting?year=2016&s=564

7623


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnRlRBcAG7g

Texted my friend who lives in Gillette and follows Sports pretty close. He said Lane is very strong very athletic. Good in basketball too. Great get. Then he said he probably could have gone FBS but you guys are better than Wyoming anyway. And he's a Pokes grad. LOL

[CalBison97]

Remember Brian Urlacher?


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I remember him from his NFL accomplishments. Certainly not for what he did in college or where he played for that matter.


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[Herd12]

Remember Brian Urlacher?


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At this point that's like saying Mississippi Valley State puts out talent because Jerry Rice went there. UNM has three pros to North Dakota State's eight.

[El_Chapo]

What channel is your signing day special on?


Midco is a joke. FARGO DMA Cable Penetration : 38% Split 40/40 between Midco/Cableone with Spectrum, Charter, Arvig repping the other 20%.

SO yes, 18-19% of FARGO DMA will get Midco and maybe 10% of that will watch your special show LOL

[RossUglem]

Ott and JJ for sure but tough to know for sure on anyone else.

Neither of these things are true.

[Christopher Moen]

At this point that's like saying Mississippi Valley State puts out talent because Jerry Rice went there. UNM has three pros to North Dakota State's eight.

I wouldn't put the Lobos in the same regard as Mississippi Valley State as UNM is a solid Mountain West school. No, they're not NDSU, but apparently they could offer Hayes something we couldn't.


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[2011BisonAlumni]

He was using an ndsu offer to generate interest. I'm sure und had some good battles for recruits with Valley city and jamestown.

No joke on this. They had a kid flip to Winona State.

[HerdBot]

Coach Klieman press conference coming up at 2 today... it's on Bison1660 or GoBison All Access

http://www.gobison.com/allaccess
Listen live at www.Bison1660.com
Listen live through the Bison 1660 mobile app.
Listen live on Tune In radio http://tunein.com/radio/Bison-1660-s34901/

[silkamilkamonico]

No joke on this. They had a kid flip to Winona State.


I'm pretty sure he flipped to Winona when he found out UND was leaving the Big Fluff to move over to the Missouri Valley. That Missouri Valley is a pretty tough conference.

[SDbison]

I found a way to view this morning's Facebook live show at 1660. During the show Jeremy said NDSU got the following:
#1 ranked player from ND
#1 ranked player from SD
#2 ranked player from WY
One top 20 player from NE
One top 20 player from WI
2 or 3 top 20 players from MN

Very impressive!

[thebigund]

Neither of these things are true.

Funny. These two have been verified by many sources.

[ZHerd]

Huge, impressive recruiting class based on the number of graduates. Should be a very competitive fall camp.

[HerdBot]

I'm updating all the podcasts in the podcast thread or at the top of this thread but here are the latest

Media podcasts today

The Insiders Signing Day Full Show
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/the-insiders-signing-day-2017-feb-1-2017-full-show

Ross Uglem Joins The Insiders To Talk Bison Signing Day 2 - 1-17
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/ross-uglem-joins-the-insiders-to-talk-bison-signing-day-2-1-17

Bison Recruiting Coordinator Nick Goeser Feb. 1, 2017
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/bison-recruiting-coordinator-nick-goeser-feb-1-2017

Bison Head Coach Chris Klieman on Signing Day Feb. 1, 2017
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/bison-head-coach-chris-klieman-on-signing-day-feb-1-2017

Ross Uglem Joins The Insiders To Talk Bison Signing Day 2 - 1-17
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/ross-uglem-joins-the-insiders-to-talk-bison-signing-day-2-1-17

Michael Tutsie Feb. 1, 2017
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/michael-tutsie-feb-1-2017

Zach Willis Feb. 1, 2017
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/zach-willis-feb-1-2017

[DIBISON]

Ott and JJ for sure but tough to know for sure on anyone else.

JJ had an NDSU scholarship offer as a high school recruit and a NDSU walk on offer when he decided to transfer from the Gophers. I'm sure UND offered a full ride and playing time to get him to transfer. Big difference. between a scholarship and pwo the first year.

[Bison 4 Life]

JJ had an NDSU scholarship offer as a high school recruit and a NDSU walk on offer when he decided to transfer from the Gophers. I'm sure UND offered a full ride and playing time to get him to transfer. Big difference. between a scholarship and pwo the first year.

They needed the win.

We are stacked at RB for a few years. He might have moved to LB or something.

[Bisonator98]

Funny. These two have been verified by many sources.

What sources? Darrelldoesthewioux, siouxvolleyshouldbeinapaddedcell and star2shittyimahomer??:rofl:

[Vet70]

What sources? Darrelldoesthewioux, siouxvolleyshouldbeinapaddedcell and star2shittyimahomer??:rofl:

geaux_sioux.

[bisonforever]

Ott and JJ for sure but tough to know for sure on anyone else. Why do UND people keep saying we offered Ott? I happen to know that we didn't! JJ was PWO vs. Full. Good for UND on both. Good players.

[SDbison]

C


Karson Schoening

Christian Triplett
Tanner Volson
Austin Kuhnert
Max Polson


OG

Nash Jensen
Ben Hecht
Jack Albrecht
Luke Bacon
Zack Ziemer
Bryce Messner


OT


Cordell Volson
Dillon Radunz
Josh Howieson
Zack Johnson
Colin Conner
Erik Olson


OL

Zach Willis
Michael Kelly
Zach Kubas









DT

Lane Tucker
Matthew Biegler
Quinn Alo
Connor Hubbs
Jack Darnell
Aaron Steidl
Blake Williams
Grant Morgan
Nate Tanguay


DE

Logan McCormick
Spencer Waege
Tanner Sundt
Justice Kelly
Cole Karcz
Derrek Tuszka
Caleb Butler
Stanley Jones
Greg Menard
Jarrod Tuszka



We have a lot of redshirt OL waiting in the wings. You'll see a push in next years recruiting cycle again for OL. I like reviewing this info. Jay, do you have a similar chart for other positions, both O and D? Would be nice to have the starters highlighted in green and those with significant play time highlighted in yellow.

[thebigund]

They needed the win.

We are stacked at RB for a few years. He might have moved to LB or something.
The reason he chose UND is because we don't have 2 all conference RBs that are only jrs.

[thebigund]

Why do UND people keep saying we offered Ott? I happen to know that we didn't! JJ was PWO vs. Full. Good for UND on both. Good players.

NDSU offered him as a TE

[Bisonator98]

NDSU offered him as a TE

Prove it....

[bisonforever]

The reason he chose UND is because we don't have 2 all conference RBs that are only jrs. You mean the slot receiver and the fullback? Not purple. All conference RB's in the BSC elite company there. Cal Poly kid was good after that Meh!

[ndsubison1]

Why do UND people keep saying we offered Ott? I happen to know that we didn't! JJ was PWO vs. Full. Good for UND on both. Good players.

Because they are desperate/obsessed with their recruits having offers from us

[Bison 4 Life]

The reason he chose UND is because we don't have 2 all conference RBs that are only jrs.

The only time I saw John Santiagonnagonowhere he was busy getting stonewalled against a real defense. He still beating up the fluffy?

[Bison Dan]

NDSU offered him as a TEReminds me of your great OT Stockwell.. Got a PWO offer after camp but told Muss he got a full and guess what Muss offered a full.

[Vet70]

NDSU offered him as a TE

http://www.scout.com/player/201921-ezekiel-ott/recruiting?year=2016

[abc123]

http://www.scout.com/player/201921-ezekiel-ott/recruiting?year=2016
You mean Scout didn't take the time to update an FCS player's page?? They don't have his offer from UNI or Washington State listed either. Color me shocked!

[SDbison]

Lets keep discussion to NDSU recruits here. PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLLS !!!

[Bisonator98]

You mean Scout didn't take the time to update an FCS player's page?? They don't have his offer from UNI or Washington State listed either. Color me shocked!

Apparently none of the other sites updated it either.

[Vet70]

You mean Scout didn't take the time to update an FCS player's page?? They don't have his offer from UNI or Washington State listed either. Color me shocked!

Here, you can color yourself shocked again.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ezekiel-Ott-89737/RecruitInterests

[Bison20]

Looks like charlie jones went to Buffalo.

[abc123]

Here, you can color yourself shocked again.
http://247sports.com/Recruitment/Ezekiel-Ott-89737/RecruitInterests
So NDSU only had 13 commits, including a kid that is signing with SDSU (or somewhere that isn't NDSU)? Great example on how accurate these sites are!

[Christopher Moen]

So NDSU only had 13 commits, including a kid that is signing with SDSU (or somewhere that isn't NDSU)? Great example on how accurate these sites are!

Why do you F'Hawkers get mad if your recruits didn't get a NDSU offer? You guys are acting as if they lost some type of legitimacy.

I think it's pretty clear UND is not going to be chasing after NDSU recruits.


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[Vet70]

Why do you F'Hawkers get mad if your recruits didn't get a NDSU offer? You guys are acting as if they lost some type of legitimacy.

I think it's pretty clear UND is not going to be chasing after NDSU recruits.


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They are so desperate to prove they have a "win" against NDSU of any kind in football it is pathetic.

[goalpost]

They are so desperate to prove they have a "win" against NDSU of any kind in football it is pathetic.

I wish the hawks would fly south for the winter

[Bison Dan]

There's a big difference in the NDSU camps vs UND. NDSU has 2 1/2 day camps where they put the kids to the test. UND's camp is 2 1/2 hours.

[goalpost]

this looks like the bison and the hawks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dUDtX6ucZ4

[EC8CH]

this looks like the bison and the hawks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dUDtX6ucZ4

Looked more like a lion and a wilderbeast to me :p

[Bison 4 Life]

So NDSU only had 13 commits, including a kid that is signing with SDSU (or somewhere that isn't NDSU)? Great example on how accurate these sites are!

These sites rely on self-reporting. Schools are not allowed to disclose offers on students per NCAA rules.

[HerdBot]

So NDSU only had 13 commits, including a kid that is signing with SDSU (or somewhere that isn't NDSU)? Great example on how accurate these sites are!

Apparently that site doesn't list many walk ons or updates in the last week. Isiah Hill hasn't committed to anyone yet but he was a verbal up until a week or so ago.

[HerdBot]

Not sure if this was posted but Paup walked on to Nebraska.

[abc123]

Why do you F'Hawkers get mad if your recruits didn't get a NDSU offer? You guys are acting as if they lost some type of legitimacy.

I think it's pretty clear UND is not going to be chasing after NDSU recruits.

Not mad at all. Just getting amusement out of the denial on something I know is accurate. I can ask the exact same to you, why does the possibility that a kid who was committed for months to a school turning down a late NDSU offer get everyone here so worked up?



These sites rely on self-reporting. Schools are not allowed to disclose offers on students per NCAA rules.
Exactly my point. Why is it so hard to believe that a kid who has long been committed and has decided he isn't going to change mind going to bother updating something that doesn't matter to him. That doesn't mean the offers didn't happen, it just means a random website won't be updated.



Apparently that site doesn't list many walk ons or updates in the last week. Isiah Hill hasn't committed to anyone yet but he was a verbal up until a week or so ago.So what you're saying is that they aren't exactly accurate and there are things on there that are outdated or not updated?

[HerdBot]

Not mad at all. Just getting amusement out of the denial on something I know is accurate. I can ask the exact same to you, why does the possibility that a kid who was committed for months to a school turning down a late NDSU offer get everyone here so worked up?



Exactly my point. Why is it so hard to believe that a kid who has long been committed and has decided he isn't going to change mind going to bother updating something that doesn't matter to him. That doesn't mean the offers didn't happen, it just means a random website won't be updated.


So what you're saying is that they aren't exactly accurate and there are things on there that are outdated or not updated?

In the last week yes. But the other stuff is accurate. The players not listed on 24-7 are listed on all the other recruiting sites like rivals or scout.

[Vet70]

Not mad at all. Just getting amusement out of the denial on something I know is accurate. I can ask the exact same to you, why does the possibility that a kid who was committed for months to a school turning down a late NDSU offer get everyone here so worked up?

You might be correct. So quit flapping your gums and show some evidence.

[Bison 4 Life]

Go back to the HYB, trolls and pat one another over the alternative facts of winning recruiting battles over NDSU.

[Christopher Moen]

Not mad at all. Just getting amusement out of the denial on something I know is accurate. I can ask the exact same to you, why does the possibility that a kid who was committed for months to a school turning down a late NDSU offer get everyone here so worked up?



Exactly my point. Why is it so hard to believe that a kid who has long been committed and has decided he isn't going to change mind going to bother updating something that doesn't matter to him. That doesn't mean the offers didn't happen, it just means a random website won't be updated.


So what you're saying is that they aren't exactly accurate and there are things on there that are outdated or not updated?

Where are "we" getting "worked" up? Most of us here weren't aware of your recruits until you guys brought them up as some kind of weird "victories " over NDSU.

All we asked for was proof that NDSU "offered" them since we can't find any.


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[RossUglem]

NDSU offered him as a TE

This is not true.

[ZHerd]

Lolz at UND recruiting class being so lame that their fans come spend the day over here

[BadlandsBison]

Some guys just can't help but come and talk smack about RECRUITING. Wow, I love it(purple)

I'm sure our green and pink (and gray?) friends got some great players today. Plus their recruiting coverage was live on TV somewhere apparently. Big victory. Probably the biggest victory since Bowling Green. And yes Bowling Green still counts as a victory since the worm hadn't quite made a full turn yet. Maybe the biggest win since Stony Brook, its hard to say.

[bruinbison]

Tyler Roehl on signing party radio:

TE Austin Avery - can be position flexible, an Andrew Bonnet type

TE Costner Ching - big & strong already, 250 already, Coach Goeser (DT's) will be begging for him on defense

Excited about RB Adam Cofield for next season


Coach Goeser: Was able to fly to Gillette, Wyoming for recruiting, fortunately.

DL Lane Tucker - 6' 3" 255 - will be up to 285 at DT in no time


Coach Klieman: Expects to play a true freshman defensive back next fall, at least on special teams

Disappointed not to be in Frisco, but that allowed for a week of recruiting where the Coaching Staff was able to find Dawson Weber, Joshua Hayes and Michael Tutsie. Had lost some dback recruits. Gave them a month to get to know them and establish a relationship with them. Those 3 were not summer camp kids.

Coach Entz: Gave Michael Tutsie a Colton Heagle comp at S

[EndZoneQB]

It will be interesting to see how the kids they didn't have in camp turn out. Not saying it's bad, but I know we recruit based on getting kids on campus.

[Bison20]

I really like the defensive signings, lots of talent on all levels. The D line could be scary for years to come with the 4 guys we got.

[CAS4127]

Expecting one or two of TEs to be moved to OL--Mauch & Babicz are my picks.

Also think Seth Wilson with be the back we have been wanted for a long time. Similar to Abdullah in both speed, endurance and strength/finishing runs. Man I hope we use him right. I really like him. "Small school" (sorry for the emphasis quotes Tony) but I don't care. We have had lots of great backs from so-called "small schools".


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[HerdBot]

Expecting one or two of TEs to be moved to OL--Mauch & Babicz are my picks.

Also think Seth Wilson with be the back we have been wanted for a long time. Similar to Abdullah in both speed, endurance and strength/finishing runs. Man I hope we use him right. I really like him. "Small school" (sorry for the emphasis quotes Tony) but I don't care. We have had lots of great backs from so-called "small schools".


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Babicz looks closer to a receiver but Mauch is a blocker. Polasek said he will learn the slot position. Avery is so much like Andrew Bonnet physically.

Seth Wilson.. One of my favorite recruits ever

[Vet70]

Expecting one or two of TEs to be moved to OL--Mauch & Babicz are my picks.

Also think Seth Wilson with be the back we have been wanted for a long time. Similar to Abdullah in both speed, endurance and strength/finishing runs. Man I hope we use him right. I really like him. "Small school" (sorry for the emphasis quotes Tony) but I don't care. We have had lots of great backs from so-called "small schools".


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You may be right about Wilson playing next season. I was struck by Kleiman's comment in his press conference that he thought Seth could be of help right away.

[Herd12]

Expecting one or two of TEs to be moved to OL--Mauch & Babicz are my picks.

Also think Seth Wilson with be the back we have been wanted for a long time. Similar to Abdullah in both speed, endurance and strength/finishing runs. Man I hope we use him right. I really like him. "Small school" (sorry for the emphasis quotes Tony) but I don't care. We have had lots of great backs from so-called "small schools".


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There is a less than 0% chance that this happens, FWIW.

[siouxfan512]

Why do you F'Hawkers get mad if your recruits didn't get a NDSU offer? You guys are acting as if they lost some type of legitimacy.

I think it's pretty clear UND is not going to be chasing after NDSU recruits.


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Actually, I agree. I'm not sure why some are so obsessed with whether or not a guy was recruited by NDSU or not. As long as the kid performs well on the field and buys into the coaches system, then I'm glad we got him (ex. Will Ratelle - Not sure if he had any other offers when he came out of HS).

UND may go after some of the same kids that NDSU goes after, but they won't start winning those recruiting battles (or at least not more of them) until the winning becomes consistent. Granted there are other factors that can come into play as well (Location, Major, Facilities, Playing Time and Depth Chart, General feel for the campus and school). This year was another step forward. But UND needs to emulate the type of winning culture that you see in NDSU, EWU, MT, SHSU or any other team that is strong on an annual basis. Doing that will make recruiting battles more interesting.

[HerdBot]

Tyler Roehl on signing party radio:

TE Austin Avery - can be position flexible, an Andrew Bonnet type

TE Costner Ching - big & strong already, 250 already, Coach Goeser (DT's) will be begging for him on defense

Excited about RB Adam Cofield for next season


Coach Goeser: Was able to fly to Gillette, Wyoming for recruiting, fortunately.

DL Lane Tucker - 6' 3" 255 - will be up to 285 at DT in no time


Coach Klieman: Expects to play a true freshman defensive back next fall, at least on special teams

Disappointed not to be in Frisco, but that allowed for a week of recruiting where the Coaching Staff was able to find Dawson Weber, Joshua Hayes and Michael Tutsie. Had lost some dback recruits. Gave them a month to get to know them and establish a relationship with them. Those 3 were not summer camp kids.

Coach Entz: Gave Michael Tutsie a Colton Heagle comp at S

Here's the full show

Signing Day Special Full Show
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/bison-signing-day-special-full-show

[SDbison]

Actually, I agree. I'm not sure why some are so obsessed with whether or not a guy was recruited by NDSU or not. As long as the kid performs well on the field and buys into the coaches system, then I'm glad we got him (ex. Will Ratelle - Not sure if he had any other offers when he came out of HS).

UND may go after some of the same kids that NDSU goes after, but they won't start winning those recruiting battles (or at least not more of them) until the winning becomes consistent. Granted there are other factors that can come into play as well (Location, Major, Facilities, Playing Time and Depth Chart, General feel for the campus and school). This year was another step forward. But UND needs to emulate the type of winning culture that you see in NDSU, EWU, MT, SHSU or any other team that is strong on an annual basis. Doing that will make recruiting battles more interesting. Get over yourself.......UND football tradition will never be bigger than NDSU. Not even close for the next 30 years.

[ZHerd]

There is a less than 0% chance that this happens, FWIW.

He is athletic lengthy, and catches with his hands. Imo he looks like more of a receiving threat than most TE we recruit

[CAS4127]

There is a less than 0% chance that this happens, FWIW.

Umm, Ok--you know the future better than I. We'll see I guess. He is gonna need to beat some people out for PT. And, do your math a bit better AND understand we need more athletic OLs. Your fucking world!!


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[abc123]

You might be correct. So quit flapping your gums and show some evidence.
Heard it directly from someone who has first hand knowledge of his recruitment and absolutely zero to benefit from it one way or another. Not sure where the insecurity comes from that a late offer didn't sway a long term relationship, it's the same reasoning behind NDSU keeping Grindorff, they put in the time. He is also looking into the medical field which played a part as well.

[Vet70]

Heard it directly from someone who has first hand knowledge of his recruitment and absolutely zero to benefit from it one way or another. Not sure where the insecurity comes from that a late offer didn't sway a long term relationship, it's the same reasoning behind NDSU keeping Grindorff, they put in the time.

Okay, got it. You heard it from someone.

[2011BisonAlumni]

Heard it directly from someone who has first hand knowledge of his recruitment and absolutely zero to benefit from it one way or another. Not sure where the insecurity comes from that a late offer didn't sway a long term relationship, it's the same reasoning behind NDSU keeping Grindorff, they put in the time. He is also looking into the medical field which played a part as well.

Nobody gives a fuck. Let it go. He'll get a great education at UND and get to play in front of 7k fans on a mediocre football team.

[Herd12]

Umm, Ok--you know the future better than I. We'll see I guess. He is gonna need to beat some people out for PT. And, do your math a bit better AND understand we need more athletic OLs. Your fucking world!!


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You have a better chance about being right about someone moving to OL from TE (still not much of a chance) but definitely not Babicz. Kid is a 220 pound wide receiver that they're going to try hang enough weight on to play tight end. They're damn sure not going to make a wide receiver a tackle.) Get real mad about it though.

[CAS4127]

You have a better chance about being right about someone moving to OL from TE (still not much of a chance) but definitely not Babicz. Kid is a 220 pound wide receiver that they're going to try hang enough weight on to play tight end. They're damn sure not going to make a wide receiver a tackle.) Get real mad about it though.

Our you can get real stupid--but perhaps already there.


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[Herd12]

Our you can get real stupid--but perhaps already there.


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Stupid like projecting a high school wide receiver to the offensive line based on conjecture? Or a different kind of stupid?

[Bison 4 Life]

Heard it directly from someone who has first hand knowledge of his recruitment and absolutely zero to benefit from it one way or another. Not sure where the insecurity comes from that a late offer didn't sway a long term relationship, it's the same reasoning behind NDSU keeping Grindorff, they put in the time. He is also looking into the medical field which played a part as well.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MLWGDxGh2G4/hqdefault.jpg

[Bison 4 Life]

Get over yourself.......UND football tradition will never be bigger than NDSU. Not even close for the next 30 years.



Ease up, he's showing contrition.

[1993bison]

How did we miss on this guy?

https://mobile.twitter.com/RedbirdFB/status/826797183018082305

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[ZHerd]

How did we miss on this guy?

https://mobile.twitter.com/RedbirdFB/status/826797183018082305

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Too European

[EndZoneQB]

Umm, Ok--you know the future better than I. We'll see I guess. He is gonna need to beat some people out for PT. And, do your math a bit better AND understand we need more athletic OLs. Your fucking world!!


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...Joe Haeg anyone...

[bisonforever]

This is not true. Confirmed tonight that we indeed DID NOT offer Ott! We had contact with him no offer. As I said before, good player go luck to him at UND. F'n Hawk rubes get over it!

[56BISON73]

Umm, Ok--you know the future better than I. We'll see I guess. He is gonna need to beat some people out for PT. And, do your math a bit better AND understand we need more athletic OLs. Your fucking world!!


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From what I understand we have a few OLmen waiting in the wings that are pretty athletic to the point where there might be a shuffle of positions.
We are pretty thick at OT and they have to find a way to get a couple of them playing time as they are that good. My bet is Kuenert goes to guard. Volson Center. The other guard and two tackles are gong to be very interesting.

[HerdBot]

How did we miss on this guy?

https://mobile.twitter.com/RedbirdFB/status/826797183018082305

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Buffalomeat sounds like he deserves a beat down from us. After the Bison kick somebodys ass they say "Yo, that dudes Buffalo meat!"

[HerdBot]

Umm, Ok--you know the future better than I. We'll see I guess. He is gonna need to beat some people out for PT. And, do your math a bit better AND understand we need more athletic OLs. Your fucking world!!


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From what I understand we have a few OLmen waiting in the wings that are pretty athletic to the point where there might be a shuffle of positions.
We are pretty thick at OT and they have to find a way to get a couple of them playing time as they are that good. My bet is Kuenert goes to guard. Volson Center. The other guard and two tackles are gong to be very interesting.

We definitely need to get more athletic. Last year we were way less athletic at LT and RG. Conor and Plankers were bulldozers but they couldn't pull like Jeremy Kelly or Joe Haeg.

I don't think we need to convert any of those TEs though. I think we have to figure out a way to get Zach Johnson and Radunz on the field at the same time.

Personally I'd like to see us move Connor to either RG or RT where he's an upgrade athletically and then slide ZJ or Radunz into his old spot. Also wanna see Cordell Volson win a spot. 6-6 300 lbs and athletic...

[ndsubison1]

Confirmed tonight that we indeed DID NOT offer Ott! We had contact with him no offer. As I said before, good player go luck to him at UND.

All we need are the UND posters to predict where Babicz will play and the opposite will be our answer

[Bison20]

We definitely need to get more athletic. Last year we were way less athletic at LT and RG. Conor and Plankers were bulldozers but they couldn't pull like Jeremy Kelly or Joe Haeg.

I don't think we need to convert any of those TEs though. I think we have to figure out a way to get Zach Johnson and Radunz on the field at the same time.

Personally I'd like to see us move Connor to either RG or RT where he's an upgrade athletically and then slide ZJ or Radunz into his old spot. Also wanna see Cordell Volson win a spot. 6-6 300 lbs and athletic...

I agree sounds like little Zach and radunz are both athletic and have lots of promise. Be interesting to see how it unfolds with 3 spots open and lots of competition

[DM05]

Expecting one or two of TEs to be moved to OL--Mauch & Babicz are my picks.

Also think Seth Wilson with be the back we have been wanted for a long time. Similar to Abdullah in both speed, endurance and strength/finishing runs. Man I hope we use him right. I really like him. "Small school" (sorry for the emphasis quotes Tony) but I don't care. We have had lots of great backs from so-called "small schools".


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CAS, just wondering why are you expecting one of the TE's to be moved? Only to get more athletic? You may well be right, but we also lose 3 TE's to graduation in the next 2 years (plus didn't Lashua announce he is done playing football? Even if not, he would make 4) and last years TE recruits are either gone (Lund) or potentially changing positions (one of the coaches shows mentioned Biegler moving to DT). Ellefson and Anderson are the only other TE's on the roster, so they need to start developing replacements for Illies, Wentz, and Jensen.

Last years OL class has been rumored to be very solid and deep (Radunz, Hecht, Volson have all been mentioned by name as standouts at some point), and all 7 redshirted. The position of greater need is arguably TE (much like bringing in extra DE's after getting poached a bit last year), especially if they plan on using Gindorff and/or Babicz in more of a receiving role.

[siouxfan512]

Actually, I agree. I'm not sure why some are so obsessed with whether or not a guy was recruited by NDSU or not. As long as the kid performs well on the field and buys into the coaches system, then I'm glad we got him (ex. Will Ratelle - Not sure if he had any other offers when he came out of HS).

UND may go after some of the same kids that NDSU goes after, but they won't start winning those recruiting battles (or at least not more of them) until the winning becomes consistent. Granted there are other factors that can come into play as well (Location, Major, Facilities, Playing Time and Depth Chart, General feel for the campus and school). This year was another step forward. But UND needs to emulate the type of winning culture that you see in NDSU, EWU, MT, SHSU or any other team that is strong on an annual basis. Doing that will make recruiting battles more interesting.


Get over yourself.......UND football tradition will never be bigger than NDSU. Not even close for the next 30 years.

I never said anything about UND football tradition being bigger than NDSU? I said UND needs to try to emulate the winning culture that the perennial powers have. That and I don't understand why some of our fans are obsessed with whether or not a UND recruit had an NDSU offer. It really doesn't matter who else they have offers from, if he is the right player for the right team and buys into the system. I think we have all seem highly touted recruits struggle and no-name recruits or walk-ons have terrific career. What part of that statement was so controversial for you?

[HerdBot]

I never said anything about UND football tradition being bigger than NDSU? I said UND needs to try to emulate the winning culture that the perennial powers have. That and I don't understand why some of our fans are obsessed with whether or not a UND recruit had an NDSU offer. It really doesn't matter who else they have offers from, if he is the right player for the right team and buys into the system. I think we have all seem highly touted recruits struggle and no-name recruits or walk-ons have terrific career. What part of that statement was so controversial for you?

yeah good coaches recruit players who fit their system. The DE you guys got is a good fit for the 3-4. My favorite example was Jeff Bentrim. Most people don't realize he was an option QB in high school. Obviously it helped as he was one of the best option QBs in college history and played as a freshman

[aces1180]

Right, but apparently their coaching staff told their fans the opposite.

I guess whatever they need to do to try and pump up egos.

[Christopher Moen]

Right, but apparently their coaching staff told their fans the opposite.

I guess whatever they need to do to try and pump up egos.

Most of these UND fans who post here are like a bunch of milk drinkers trying to out-drink a bunch of whiskey drinkers in a beer guzzling contest.


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[cbline]

Right, but apparently their coaching staff told their fans the opposite.

I guess whatever they need to do to try and pump up egos.

I am currently re-reading Orwell's "1984." Sounds like Bubbles is using Newspeak up north.

[siouxfan512]

Most of these UND fans who post here are like a bunch of milk drinkers trying to out-drink a bunch of whiskey drinkers in a beer guzzling contest.


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I'll take Whiskey or Beer please :)

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[tony]

Just be glad we don't get kids who do shit like this.


https://youtu.be/eWSkF9sPEBc?t=56

Haha, I'd love an NDSU recruit to parody that on youtube. Except instead of taking off other schools' jerseys, maybe just rip off layers of t-shirts: like "I'm with Stupid", "My X went to Y and all I got was this crappy t-shirt", etc.

[IzzyFlexion]

So.......I suppose that I can overlook his level of disrespect to the Florida schools since he's not going full douchebag by wearing a gangster brimmed hat................oh yeah, forget it.

[Vet70]

In case you missed it here is a twist when announcing which university you are joining.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/02/5-star-recruit-aubrey-solomon-miami-michigan-jim-harbaugh-signing-day-commitment

[coloradobison]

One edit would be moving Hendricks to DB/Safety after Klieman's comments yesterday.

[Bison03]

Too lazy to read this whole thread but have we given Holden Hotchkiss his obvious nickname yet?

The Hotchkiss Cannon!!
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M68c32bf50568d8dbf07405249dc2434eo0&w=300&h=214&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hotchkiss+cannon&view=detailv2&&id=81CC3070F576C2A81F2DFC78D75ADC7EEE1119E9&selectedIndex=5&ccid=aMMr9QVo&simid=607991169426000087&thid=OIP.M68c32bf50568d8dbf07405249dc2434eo0)

[Mr Meaty]

Too lazy to read this whole thread but have we given Holden Hotchkiss his obvious nickname yet?

The Hotchkiss Cannon!!
http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M68c32bf50568d8dbf07405249dc2434eo0&w=300&h=214&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=hotchkiss+cannon&view=detailv2&&id=81CC3070F576C2A81F2DFC78D75ADC7EEE1119E9&selectedIndex=5&ccid=aMMr9QVo&simid=607991169426000087&thid=OIP.M68c32bf50568d8dbf07405249dc2434eo0)

He has a cannon of an arm.

[Jay]

@SDBison

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[coloradobison]

2 obvious positions of need for next recruiting cycle : Punter and Long Snapper.

[bruinbison]

2 obvious positions of need for next recruiting cycle :
Punter and Long Snapper.

Uh oh, here comes that Bugs Bunny baseball cartoon......



only need 1 person

[56BISON73]

@SDBison

7636

That list is missing the OTs

[Vet70]

@SDBison

7636


That list is missing the OTs

Eighth row?

[56BISON73]

Eighth row?

Missing the commits

[Vet70]

Missing the commits

I am not seeing any OT's on the commit list.
http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?37043-2017-Recruiting-Summary

[56BISON73]

I am not seeing any OT's on the commit list.
http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?37043-2017-Recruiting-Summary

All I know is they announced some huge OL guys last night.

[Jay]

All I know is they announced some huge OL guys last night.

Zach Willis is on OL row.

[EndZoneQB]

Zach Willis is on OL row.

Willis isn't long enough to be an OT is he?

[KSBisonFan]

2 obvious positions of need for next recruiting cycle : Punter and Long Snapper.
Well, since CAS is taking over at Offensive Coordinator there won't be any more 4th downs so no need to punt. Also, Seth Wilson had a punt in his highlights so there's that. #Firepuntingsavedynasty.

[Jay]

Willis isn't long enough to be an OT is he?

I think he can. I've seen him at 6'5" on Scout and listed at 6'3" by NDSU. I think he can play both. Not a sure fire guard like Nash.

[Mr Meaty]

Does Dexter Werner have any eligibility left after basketball this season? Play him at TE or DE.

[Jay]

Does Dexter Werner have any eligibility left after basketball this season? Play him at TE or DE.

No, he RS.

[Son of a Bison]

Kind of wish Morlock could wrestle even if unattached. Just a good kid overall.

[CalBison97]

Uh oh, here comes that Bugs Bunny baseball cartoon......



only need 1 person


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdGlrC0oL_A

[SDbison]

@SDBison

7636Thanks Jay!

[WRSDBison]

Marcus Hayes committed to New Mexico.


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Why would a wide receiver choose them? They run the triple option.

[Vet70]

Why would a wide receiver choose them? They run the triple option.

I don't know where they will play him, but he was also a CB.

[Christopher Moen]

Why would a wide receiver choose them? They run the triple option.

Didn't stop Calvin Johnson or Demaryius Thomas from attending Georgia Tech.


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[WRSDBison]

Didn't stop Calvin Johnson or Demaryius Thomas from attending Georgia Tech.


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If I remember correctly (and I could be wrong because I haven't researched it) Calvin was there and gone before Paul Johnson got there and implemented the triple option. I also think Demaryious redshirted a year under Chan Gailey, which means there was no triple option at GT when he signed.

[Christopher Moen]

If I remember correctly (and I could be wrong because I haven't researched it) Calvin was there and gone before Paul Johnson got there and implemented the triple option. I also think Demaryious redshirted a year under Chan Gailey, which means there was no triple option at GT when he signed.

My bad; for some odd reason, I thought GT had been using the triple-option long before Paul Johnson got there.

Triple-option and spread offense - I can't figure out which scheme I dislike more.


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[2011BisonAlumni]

My bad; for some odd reason, I thought GT had been using the triple-option long before Paul Johnson got there.

Triple-option and spread offense - I can't figure out which scheme I dislike more.


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Not sure why you would hate the triple option so much. NDSU won 5 national championships running it.

[Christopher Moen]

Not sure why you would hate the triple option so much. NDSU won 5 national championships running it.

I won't deny the veer's effectiveness, but it doesn't appeal to me like power football does. I love when a defense's will gets broken by the power-scheme. It's a thing of beauty. The end of the veer at NDSU and the eventual emergence of power football might be the only benefit of a mistimed snowball fight outside of Stockbridge Hall.

In regards to spread football, it might put up pretty numbers, but it takes away the cerebral aspect of a QB and relies too much on having superior WRs compared to DBs.


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[HerdBot]

Not sure why you would hate the triple option so much. NDSU won 5 national championships running it.

Teams that run the veer do it because they can't get elite lineman or receivers. We don't have that problem. However I do like elements of the veer and it's super hard to prepare for these days since nobody runs it and you can't emulate it in practice

[Hammerhead]

Was the veer made less effective when they moved the hash marks closer together?



Teams that run the veer do it because they can't get elite lineman or receivers. We don't have that problem. However I do like elements of the veer and it's super hard to prepare for these days since nobody runs it and you can't emulate it in practice

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

FWIW

http://herosports.com/news/fcs-recruiting-top-50-recruiting-classes-2017

3. NDSU
2. JMU
1. Harvard

Time will tell

[EC8CH]

FWIW

http://herosports.com/news/fcs-recruiting-top-50-recruiting-classes-2017

3. NDSU
2. JMU
1. Harvard

Time will tell

Recruiting is only step #1.

[THEsocalledfan]

Recruiting is only step #1.

Step 2 is participating in the FCS PO's....

[Jay]

Fantastic write-up about the 2017 recruiting season:

http://www.scout.com/college/north-dakota-state/story/1752117-2017-bisonreport-recruiting-awards

[Bison"FANatic"]

Fantastic write-up about the 2017 recruiting season:

http://www.scout.com/college/north-dakota-state/story/1752117-2017-bisonreport-recruiting-awards

This quote from that article is Golden: The Best Recruiter?

Ryan says: The NDSU fans

It sounds totally cliche, but I've never heard recruits rave about a fan base like they do when they talk about NDSU. Time after time after time, when I'd be talking to recruits that just visited Fargo, the number one thing they'd mention to me was how supportive the fans were of the football team and that made them feel wanted and at home. The fan support absolutely made a difference in this 2017 class.