Virginia Duals

[RadioBison]

It looks like we have Virginia and the Citadel in the roundrobin pools. Some of our guys will get a good test against the Cavs. It should be interesting to see Josh against Mueller.

[larson311]

#25 Ream gets #35 Aaron Walker of The Citadel, that's about the only noteworthy match against The Citadel.

Here's what I have for Virginia. Rankings are from WresteStat.

125 - #7 Josh Rodriguez Dec #14 Jack Mueller 3-0 NDSU
133 - #46 Will Mason Dec #81 Cam Sykora 3-3 (good test for Cam and winnable. Cam's best win was against #72 and worst loss is to #49)
141 - #9 George DiCamillo TF #125 Taylor Nein 8-3 VU (Would be a win if Nein can hold to a MD)
149 - #92 Mitch Friedman or #74 Kyle Gliva Dec #67 Sam Krivus 8-6 VU (I'd call this a tossup, same as 133, I will give us this one)
157 - #14 Andrew Atkinson Dec #25 Clay Ream 11-6 VU (Ream will need to avenge a loss by MD last year to Atkinson)
165 - #35 Andrew Fogarty Dec #77 Ray Bethea 11-9 VU (Assuming Fogarty wrestles, otherwise we probably drop this one)
174 - #127 Dylan Urbach Dec #49 Tyler Askey Dec 12-11 NDSU (tossup)
184 - #49 Will Schany Dec #66 Tyler McNutt 14-12 VU (tossup)
197 - #93 Chance McClure Dec #104 Cordell Eaton 17-12 VU (tossup)
285 - #46 Ben Tyanan Fall #195 Chuck Boddy 18-17 NDSU

Would be awesome to see the dual end that way :) but it could go many different ways. We need Fogarty healthy and need to take some of these tossup matches that VU is favored in. WrestleStat predicts a 23-10 Virgina win. Regardless, should be some good matches and a fun weekend!

[countin' lights]

Is anyone out there to possibly give updates?

[Big Bird]

I won't be there, but trackwrestling will have live updates for free and you can watch the entire tournament for $14.99 through trackwrestling.

[larson311]

Results from The Citadel, Ream didn't wrestle. Coach Garnett replied to me on Twitter and said he was just resting, so hopefully we see him against Virginia.

Match Summary CIT NDSU
125 Joshua Rodriguez (North Dakota State) over Charles Kearney (The Citadel) Fall 1:24 0 6.00
133 Cam Sykora (North Dakota State) over Andrew Szalwinski (The Citadel) Fall 1:37 0 6.00
141 Taylor Nein (North Dakota State) over Douglas Gudenburr (The Citadel) Dec 8-2 0 3.00
149 Tyler Buckiso (The Citadel) over Mitchell Friedman (North Dakota State) Dec 5-4 3.00 0
157 Aaron Walker (The Citadel) over Kyle Gliva (North Dakota State) Dec 7-2 3.00 0
165 Andrew Fogarty (North Dakota State) over Ruston Hill II (The Citadel) TF 17-0 0 5.00
174 Dylan Urbach (North Dakota State) over Martin Duane (The Citadel) TF 16-0 0 5.00
184 Tyler McNutt (North Dakota State) over Chandler Sambets (The Citadel) TF 16-0 0 5.00
197 Sawyer Root (The Citadel) over Cordell Eaton (North Dakota State) SV-1 7-5 3.00 0
285 Benjamin Tyanan (North Dakota State) over Joseph Bexley (The Citadel) Fall 3:52 0 6.00
Dual Meet Score 9.0 36.0

[larson311]

It's 6-6 after 3, i had it 8-3 VU so far so good!

[Gladiator Dad]

It's 6-6 after 3, i had it 8-3 VU so far so good!

Thru 174 NDSU 18 UVA 20

[Bisonator98]

Thru 174 NDSU 18 UVA 20

trackwrestling says NDSU leads 18-13 thru 184 :confused:

[Bisonator98]

I think NDSU won 27-13!

[roadwarrior]

Final score NDSU 27 Virginia 13

[Bisonator98]

So Arizona State tomorrow? Time?

[StL Bison Fan]

I think our wrestling team is truly a hidden gem. I actually can watch them on tv- love it

[Christopher Moen]

So Arizona State tomorrow? Time?

Virginia Tech tomorrow. Winner takes on the winner of the Oklahoma/Arizona State dual. Both losers wrestle for third. Huge win for the NDSU program.

[Big Bird]

I know it isn't all about him, but huge test for Josh Rodriguez tomorrow. He's always been close with Dance, but hasn't been able to finish off a win. I think he can do it, but he is the underdog. He needs to keep the pace high, keep good movement/distance, and finish shots quickly. Dance is super strong and if you play into his ties, he will wear you down.

IF he wins, and runs the table (which is likely if he gets by Dance), he's looking at a #2 or #3 seed and would have a much more favorable spot in St Louis.

GREAT job today by the team today though! Friedman, Eaton, and Clay with very big wins vs UVA. Sykora showing he absolutely belongs too

[Gladiator Dad]

Dual starts today at 1:00 Central Time with VT. Pretty solid Team effort so far down here overall. The worse the Team can do is 4th.

[Big Bird]

Should be some great tests for the guys.

125- Josh is 0-4 vs Dance, but even the match he lost 8-1, he was in deep on a shot late to go ahead. He wound up getting put on his back to make it look lopsided. I certainly think Josh looks better this year and that he can win this one.
133- Gustafson has been very good all year and only has one loss...but Sykora has continued to show he belongs and he can win this one. Looking at his wins, he doesn't have any stand out ones this year and his best wins, IMO, are close decisions over Jake Hodges and Micky Phillipi (Who, again IMO, are similar to Cam right now)
141- Norstrem isn't a world beater, but is a definitive favorite over Nein. I think it'll be a decision though and Nein should be able to compete with him.
149- Chishko is a big favorite over Friedman and beat him by decision last season. Friedman has been wrestling well though and I'd be happy with a competitive decision loss.
157- Regardless of who VT throws out there, it'll be tough for Clay. Sal Mastriani owns a head to head win over Clay a few years ago and has been ranked in the top 5 before and Bismarck's Ryan Blees is a former super recruit who is wrestling well. The win over Atkinson gives me confidence in picking Clay to win a tough battle though.
165- Fogarty should win. It'd be great to see a rematch of his (somewhat controversial) Christmas Tournament loss to Blees from high school. Either way I pick Fogarty to win.
174- If Urbach keeps it to a dec, good on him.
184- Same for McNutt.
197- I think Cordell does keep this to a decision. I'm looking forward to seeing how competitive he is here.
HWT- Big Ben kept it to a decision when these two wrestled last year, and that'll be tough to do again. If I remember correctly, Bbig Ben even got a TD in that match, which is super rare vs Walz.

Overall, I'm hoping for a competitive dual through 165. After that, you run into a murders row for VT.

Coach Dresser wanted this dual to happen and he's getting his wish http://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestling/Features/2017/January/13/Virginia-Tech-advances-to-Virginia-Duals-semifinals (also hat tip to Pat Ream for the photo in it)

[Big Bird]

scoreless first period. Beautiful ankle pick by dance defended by josh

[Big Bird]

3-1 dance heading to the third. No offense from Josh thus far and Dance is getting his going

[Big Bird]

3-2 1:40 to go

[Big Bird]

5-2 dance. Still doable with a quick escape

[Big Bird]

Dance wins 5-3. Unfortunately it wasn't even as close as the score indicated. Couldn't even touch dance's legs and Dance got to Josh's whenever he wanted the last 2 periods

[Big Bird]

Quick td for Cam

[Big Bird]

Cam getting to the legs but Gustafson is strong

[Big Bird]

Another good single leg draws a stall on Gustafson. Gustafson is strong and has heavy hips. Cam at a high pace too, hope he can keep it up

[Big Bird]

GREAT job by Cam to prevent a TD in the last 10 seconds of the first

[Big Bird]

9-1 Cam and he's taking over against a good opponent

[Big Bird]

Gave upa reversal and takes a 9-3 lead to the 3rd. Starts on top

[Big Bird]

Cam getting tired. But up 4

[Big Bird]

Cam wins 10-8. Ref was very inconsistent with calls, Cam got tired, but still a good win

[Big Bird]

Nein with the fall!!!

[Big Bird]

Great shot off the whistle vs the VT backup, caught the head (Kish was yelling for him to do it) and stacked him up for the fall. Great job

[Big Bird]

Great double late in the first for Chishko to take a 2-0 lead heading to the 2nd.

[Big Bird]

Friedman riding tough and Chishko already looks tired

[Big Bird]

Great shot by Friedman but ran out of real estate. Chishko leads 3-0 but is tired. Friedman will start the 3rd on bottom but he can do this

[Big Bird]

3-1 minute and a half to go

[Big Bird]

Stalling Chishko

[Big Bird]

Another close one. 30 secs to go

[Big Bird]

3-2 Chisko won. Friedman locked up two cradles from neutral on the edge and didn't get a td. Missed opportunity but good match

[Big Bird]

Clay down 2-1 after 1 to Mastriani. Close match

[Big Bird]

3-3 heading to the third and Clay starts on bottom. Quick escape 4-3 Clay

[Big Bird]

Clay TD and 4 NF! Looking for a major now!

[Big Bird]

Nevermind! Now an escape and TD for Sal

[Big Bird]

12-8 win for Clay! Very good win.

12-6 NDSU, need bonus here for any chance in the dual

[Big Bird]

Fogarty leads 2-1 after 1. Has 2 min of RT too

[Big Bird]

6-2 Fogarty after 2. Needs to keep cutting him

[Big Bird]

Fogarty holds on for a 9-7 win. Terrible 3rd period. No urgency to finish his shots. He got in on a low single several times, stopped wrestling, and allowed his opponent to scramble and score

[Big Bird]

Urbach down 4-0 after 1.

Although we're up 15-6, VT is a significant favorite in all remaining matches. Best chance for an upset may be Eaton

[Big Bird]

Urbach down 10-0 after 2. This should be a tech, it has been ugly

[Big Bird]

Epperly tech.

[Big Bird]

McNutt down 3-0 halfway through the 2nd, ZZ has rt too

[Big Bird]

McNutt falls 4-1. Good D and nice job slowing down ZZ

[Big Bird]

Eaton down 8-0 plus RT after 1.

[Big Bird]

10-0 plus RT after 2

[Big Bird]

Eaton falls 13-1. He was at least competitive in the 3rd

[Big Bird]

Ben down 2-1 after 1 vs the clear cut #3 HWT in the country

[Big Bird]

Big Ben picks top...hes been great on top lately.

Didn't work. Quick escape and TD by Walz. It'll be tough to get back in this

[Big Bird]

7-2 after 2. Walz picks down

[Big Bird]

Tynan gives up a td in the last 5 seconds to lose 11-2. Good effort by the team against a top 5 team

[Big Bird]

Looks like Arizona State will be the opponent for 3rd

[DORMIE]

What was the final team score?

[Big Bird]

22-15 I believe. Very respectable

[Gladiator Dad]

Championship Finals - North Dakota State is guaranteed 4th place
Match #1 Semifinal: Virginia Tech defeated North Dakota State 22-15
125 - Joey Dance (Virginia Tech) over Joshua Rodriguez (North Dakota State) Dec 5-3
133 - Cam Sykora (North Dakota State) over Dennis Gustafson (Virginia Tech) Dec 10-8
141 - Taylor Nein (North Dakota State) over Brenden Ryan (Virginia Tech) Fall 0:31
149 - Solomon Chishko (Virginia Tech) over Mitchell Friedman (North Dakota State) Dec 3-2
157 - Clayton Ream (North Dakota State) over Sal Mastriani (Virginia Tech) Dec 12-8
165 - Andrew Fogarty (North Dakota State) over David Bergida (Virginia Tech) Dec 9-7
174 - Zach Epperly (Virginia Tech) over Dylan Urbach (North Dakota State) TF 18-3
184 - Zachary Zavatsky (Virginia Tech) over Tyler McNutt (North Dakota State) Dec 4-1
197 - Jared Haught (Virginia Tech) over Cordell Eaton (North Dakota State) Maj 13-1
285 - Ty Walz (Virginia Tech) over Benjamin Tyanan (North Dakota State) Maj 11-2

[RadioBison]

22-15 I believe. Very respectable
Thanks for the updates.

[Big Bird]

Apparently they started early.
Rodriguez with atech and Cam working on a major in the third vs ASUs backup

[Big Bird]

Huge third period for Cam and he gets the tech. 10-0 NDSU

[Big Bird]

Nein scoreless after 1 vs borderline top 20 opponent Villareal

[Big Bird]

Nein trails 3-2 after 2 and starts down. He's wrestling well

[Big Bird]

3-3 minute to go

[Big Bird]

Nein takedown with 8 seconds left to win! Great win!

[Big Bird]

13-0 NDSU. Friedman facing Pagdilao here. Pagdilao and Maruca both start for ASU here, but they're going with Pagdilao here.

ASU is weak at 184 and 197 and very good everywhere else remaining. This will wind up being a tight dual, but a win at 157 would go a long way towards winning this dual

[Big Bird]

Frieman down 2-1 after 1

[Big Bird]

Wild second period where they trade 4 reversals and Friedman trails 6-5 going to the third

[Big Bird]

Friedman falls 8-6. Gave up 3 reversals and it cost him

[Big Bird]

Beautiful single 5 seconds in for Clay to take the lead

[Bisonwinagn]

Friedman falls 8-6. Gave up 3 reversals and it cost him

How did he do that? I don't thin I've ever seen that many reversals before.

[Big Bird]

2-1 Clay after 1, Reviewing whether Clay had 2 more at the end of 1. Clay has RT too.

Shields very heavy with the ties but didn't initiate any offense.

And they give Clay 2 more. 4-1 after 1

[Big Bird]

6-2 after 2, 1:38 of RT and Clay will choose neutral

[Big Bird]

Incredible misdirection shot by Shields but he can't finish. 50 seconds to go

[Big Bird]

Clay wins 8-4. Great weekend of wrestling out of him!

[Big Bird]

Valencia up 6-1 with RT after 1.

[Big Bird]

He got pancaked in the 2nd and trails 12-2 plus RT. Good job to fight off his back, but you can't give up 2 6 point moves

[Big Bird]

Valencia tech. Fogarty gave up 2 six pointers, several stalls, and had no reaction from a 10 foot shot.

I've seen Valencia dominate on his feet, but that 2nd to last td should not happen. It was literally from 10 feet away.

Urbach needs to win this one, as it appears they're bumping Zahid Valencia to 184

[Big Bird]

Zeke needs shut up. He's really annoying me

0-0 after 1, both guys with a stalling

[Big Bird]

Urbach down 3-0 plus RT. Looks tired

[Christopher Moen]

Zeke needs shut up. He's really annoying me

0-0 after 1, both guys with a stalling

Try working with him.


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[Big Bird]

Urbach loses 6-2. Looked bad on bottom, but if he would've switched to a double on his really nice Hi c in the second, he probably wins the match. Great example of not doing the little things right and it costing you in that one

[Big Bird]

McNutt had Zahid up in a single and couldn't finish...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Big Bird]

Try working with him.


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Haha, I like the guy, but man he's been annoying this dual

[Big Bird]

8-1 after 1. After they told both coaches to stay in the corner last match, Zeke was on the met right in front of the head table (nowhere near the corner) when Zahid put him on his back. Even got in the way of the secondary official

[Big Bird]

Zahid fall.

[Big Bird]

Zahid is special, but McNutt got physically manhandled by a 174 pounder. That can't happen

[HerdBot]

Where there goes the lead down 17-16

[Christopher Moen]

Haha, I like the guy, but man he's been annoying this dual

He's not a bad guy, but extremely demanding. It was hard for upper management to get him to understand that his coworkers weren't not his personal servants.

[Big Bird]

0-0 after 1

Eaton allowed Cauley to control the ties.

Need both of these last two matches and Hall at HWT is a top 5-10 guy

[Big Bird]

1-0 Eaton after 2. Not a single offensive attempt by either guy.

Cauley at least controlling the ties and direction

Quick esc 1-1

[Big Bird]

Eaton td to take the lead back

[Big Bird]

Eaton wins 5-2.

All comes down to HWT

[Christopher Moen]

Eaton wins 5-2. NDSU now leads 19-17. Comes down to HWT!

[Big Bird]

Noticeable quickness advantage for Ben. Needs to trust his offense

[Big Bird]

0-0 after 1 and a couple near misses for Ben. He's in this

He did get called for a bad stall call

[Big Bird]

Hall escapes in 4 secs

[Christopher Moen]

0-0 after 1 and a couple near misses for Ben. He's in this

He did get called for a bad stall call

Tanner Hall is pretty tough. He might be listed as a Sophomore, but he spent a few years on a Mormon Mission.

[Big Bird]

3-0 hall plus rt after 2

have to go neutral

[Big Bird]

Tynan falls 4-1 and ASU comes back to win 20-19

[Christopher Moen]

Hall wins 4-1. ASU wins 20-19. The Bison are still improving and are looking like a team that might be able to finish in the Top-20 in March.

[Big Bird]

Great weekend for the team overall. Shoutouts to Cam, Nein, and Clay for all having fantastic performances this weekend.

[Bisonator98]

Sheesh not a good day for the Bison. Lose both BB games and both wrestling matches.

[Big Bird]

Thoughts on the entire weekend:
125- Josh wrestled well. Mueller is a top 10 guy and the win was dominating and controlling. The match vs Dance wasn't what I hoped, but Dance is a top 2 or 3 guy at 125, and the loss was only 2 points. The worry for me was how ineffective Josh was at getting to Dance's legs. Dance was also able to get to Josh's legs fairly easily, but he's the first guy all year to do that. Still, Josh's outlook remains about the same. He should slot in seeded right around 5th come NCAA time with a chance to move up a couple spots.
133- Cam was really good all weekend. Only guy on the team to 4-0 and had a couple quality wins over Mason and Gustafson. Cam has a solid single leg and great tilts. One troubling trend of late has been his third period performance. Not sure if he's just rounding into shape after not competing a ton first semester or if he's putting it on cruise control because he has the match one. My hope is that Cam has done enough, and will continue to do enough, to earn another AQ spot for the B12.
141- Breakout performance for Nein. The fall vs VT was a big reason why the dual was as close as it was. Villareal was probably set to crack the top 20 until Nein knocked him off, so that is a real signature win for the true freshman. A 3-1 weekend with his only loss coming to a top 10 opponent is more than pretty much anyone could've expected. Great job and something really positive to build on.
149- Friedman's record this weekend was disappointing, but he was very competitive again against good competition. He went just 1-3 but his win over Krivus is a good one. Pagdilao has been in and out of the top 20 for the better part of a year, Chishko is a top 10 guy, and Buckiso is solid. He had Chishko on the ropes and should have won. Combine those with his matches vs Jeffries and he looks like a guy who could steal someones AQ spot come B12 tourney time. Had he beaten Chishko and Jeffries once, he may well have earned another AQ spot for the conference. He's surpassing my expectations.
157- Great weekend for Clay. 3-0 with all three wins over top 20 guys, with Shields being top 10 according to Flo. Great rebound weekend for him. Although I'm not sure Gladiator Dad was happy with his movement at times on his feet (I'm guessing that was you I could hear on the video). Gliva lost to a top 20 Walker, so no shame in that one.
165- Fogarty went 3-1 but his performance was pretty spotty. The third period vs Bergida was incredibly frustrating to watch. Plus the takedown in the last 5 seconds vs Valencia sucked, as it gave up the tech. He was also losing when he won by injury default. Not sure if he's just hitting a rough patch in a long season, but there are some cracks developing. With that said, Zilverberg knocked off Ashworth this weekend and Fogarty may well crack the top 20 in Flo's rankings now. He still looks like an NCAA qualifier too.
174- Urbach was ok. He wound up 1-3 and could've gone 2-2 if he beat Peterson. He was down 1-0 in the 2nd and in very deep on a hi-c and didn't try to finish. Granted Peterson had something to do with that, but if he finishes that quickly, it's a whole different match and he may well win. Peterson is solid, so the loss doesn't bother me so much as the one sequence that could've changed the match. I hope Nielson still sees some time, as I like his defense better and he has some solid attacks.
184- Rough weekend for McNutt. He went 1-3 but two of his losses were to top 10 guys. The only thing that bothered me was how bad Zahid overpowered him. He jumped 2 weight classes in one offseason, so it'll likely take another offseason before he better acclimates to the higher weight. Hopefully he can add some strength this offseason. I think he's a better wrestler than Schany too, but he dropped that one by 1.
197- Eaton was ok again. He went 2-2 but he definitely could've won the match vs Citadel. I'm more just hoping he learns and develops this year, as he is still pretty raw. Big talented kid who just needs matches vs good competition.
HWT- A 2-2 weekend with two losses vs top 5 opponents isn't bad. He had a noticeable quickness advantage vs Hall and you could see his confidence rise after he had a couple near misses. Hopefully this is a confidence boost to let him know that he can compete with most of the top 20. I think he is an NCAA qualifier this year and could win a couple in St Louis.

As a whole, the team is trending in the right direction. Probably back in the top 25 after knocking off UVA and dropping two close ones to ASU and VT. It's not unrealistic to say Rodriguez, Sykora, Friedman, Ream, Fogarty, and Tynan could each qualify for NCAAs. It probably isn't realistic for all of them to make it, but they all individually have a very legitimate chance. Rodriguez and Ream have both shown legitimate AA potential too. If things broke in a Julson like fashion (which is absolutely perfect at NCAAs), I think Tynan could too.

[Gladiator Dad]

157- Great weekend for Clay. 3-0 with all three wins over top 20 guys, with Shields being top 10 according to Flo. Great rebound weekend for him. Although I'm not sure Gladiator Dad was happy with his movement at times on his feet (I'm guessing that was you I could hear on the video). Gliva lost to a top 20 Walker, so no shame in that one.

LOL Big Bird you've got me. I have always believed with him that if he has good motion that's when he is at his best and and gets off a good shot by creating good angels. When he is stationary it makes him vulnerable to getting picked and having to defend against a shot by his opponent.

Good over all assessment that you gave above. The one thing that I would add that you don't see just from watching the live feed as how this team has geld and have really started coming together and supporting each other. I will also add that there were so many people from other teams or just there as fans of the sport that came up to the few Bison Fans that made the trip as well as our coaches that stated how impressed they were on how our team battled and conducted themselves. I think the Young Bison showed a lot of people that they can't be taken lightly.

[RadioBison]

Thoughts on the entire weekend:

As a whole, the team is trending in the right direction. Probably back in the top 25 after knocking off UVA and dropping two close ones to ASU and VT. It's not unrealistic to say Rodriguez, Sykora, Friedman, Ream, Fogarty, and Tynan could each qualify for NCAAs. It probably isn't realistic for all of them to make it, but they all individually have a very legitimate chance. Rodriguez and Ream have both shown legitimate AA potential too. If things broke in a Julson like fashion (which is absolutely perfect at NCAAs), I think Tynan could too.

I agree that all of the guys you mentioned seem to be wrestling well enough to make the NCAA field, but I get the feeling that most of them are going to need upset wins at the Big XII tournament to get in. Rodriguez and Ream should be in no matter what at this point. With the other guys, even though they have good records and many of the losses are to quality opponents, I don't really see many "quality wins", or many further opportunities for them this season. Friedman seems like he might have the best chance, with Hammond, Mendenhall, and Kocer remaining on the schedule. After seeing Tyler Lehmann not get in a few years ago (14-6, with five losses to ranked opponents), and with Steven Monk not making it in as a freshman (22-9, 2nd in WWC), I guess I don't have much faith in the committee helping us too much. Am I way off base here?

P.S. I'm basing some of my outlook beyond top 20 guys on wrestlestat, which I haven't gained lots of trust in just yet. I do appreciate all of the match results in one place.