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tony
11-20-2016, 12:27 PM
Just to be clear (all times Central):



Jeff and Dom are doing a live blog starting at 9:30
The selection show is 10:00 on ESPNU
Anish Shroff is going to be on Bison1660 at 11:30 (I'm sure there'll be more coverage than that, but you can't miss Anish on 1660)


What else?

dewey
11-20-2016, 12:28 PM
Just to be clear (all times Central):



Jeff and Dom are doing a live blog starting at 9:30
The selection show is 10:00
Anish Shroff is going to be on Bison1660 at 11:30 (I'm sure there'll be more coverage than that, but you can't miss Anish on 1660)


What else?

It is on ESPNU...right?

Dewey

Gully
11-20-2016, 12:35 PM
It is on ESPNU...right?

Dewey

Correct......

A1pigskin
11-20-2016, 12:58 PM
Just to be clear (all times Central):



Jeff and Dom are doing a live blog starting at 9:30
The selection show is 10:00 on ESPNU
Anish Shroff is going to be on Bison1660 at 11:30 (I'm sure there'll be more coverage than that, but you can't miss Anish on 1660)


What else?

Church at 10:00, looks like I will have to pray from home. I'm sure everyone will understand.

FCS Nation
11-20-2016, 01:12 PM
Church at 10:00, looks like I will have to pray from home. I'm sure everyone will understand.


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NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 02:01 PM
Klieman will be on the selection show for an interview.

No_Skill
11-20-2016, 02:19 PM
Last year they posted the top 4 seeds just before the show. I'm guessing they'll do the same this year.

EC8CH
11-20-2016, 02:20 PM
Last year they posted the top 4 seeds just before the show. I'm guessing they'll do the same this year.

Yes on Twitter start at 9:30 in alphabetical order.

EC8CH
11-20-2016, 02:32 PM
SHSU melt down in 3... 2...1...

EC8CH
11-20-2016, 02:32 PM
EWU
NDSU
JSU
JMU

in no particular order

Hammersmith
11-20-2016, 02:35 PM
EWU
NDSU
JSU
JMU

in no particular order

Which twitter account is that from?

EC8CH
11-20-2016, 02:37 PM
@NCAA_FCS

Official FCS football account

Strategery
11-20-2016, 02:38 PM
Which twitter account is that from?

FCS Football @NCAA_FCS

Hammersmith
11-20-2016, 02:41 PM
Thanks guys. Was looking at just about every feed except that one. (I'm a twitter luddite)

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 02:42 PM
SHSU fans must be melting down right now.

Vet70
11-20-2016, 02:48 PM
SHSU fans must be melting down right now.

Let's hope this board doesn't do the same.

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 02:53 PM
Let's hope this board doesn't do the same.

Well, if the MVFC only gets three teams...

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 02:58 PM
lulz@ sam houston

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 03:04 PM
Bison at #1 as predicted

BisonAlumni
11-20-2016, 03:06 PM
1) NDSU
2) EWU
3) Jack St.
4) JMU

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 03:07 PM
Seeds..

1. NDSU
2. EWU
3. JSU
4. JMU
5. SHSU
6. The Citadel
7. UND
8. SDSU

BisonAlumni
11-20-2016, 03:08 PM
5) SHSU
6) The Citadel
7) UND
8) SDSU

aces1180
11-20-2016, 03:08 PM
We get San Diego or Poly in the second round...

bisonridge
11-20-2016, 03:08 PM
And potentially play SDSU in quarters.

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ByeSonBusiness
11-20-2016, 03:09 PM
That's dumb. Und and sdsu should have been switched. SDSU fans are going to lose their minds.

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:09 PM
LMFAO. Cal Poly and then SDSU?

oldmantutters
11-20-2016, 03:09 PM
Seeds..

1. NDSU
2. EWU
3. JSU
4. JMU
5. SHSU
6. The Citadel
7. UND
8. SDSU
So fucking dumb.

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Mr Pep Band
11-20-2016, 03:10 PM
Regionalization and conference rematch and them wanting NDSU to lose at all costs! :mad:

natstar1
11-20-2016, 03:10 PM
LMFAO. Cal Poly and then SDSU?

I have no idea. Is Cal Poly good?

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:12 PM
That's dumb. Und and sdsu should have been switched. SDSU fans are going to lose their minds.

yep. lets take away the opportunity to put 2 match ups between 4 co conference champs.

scottietohottie
11-20-2016, 03:12 PM
Here have the number one seed and then will just stack the bracket. Still comes back to should have beat the jacks the first time. Don't give the committee a chance to do this.

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 03:12 PM
I have no idea. Is Cal Poly good?

Weak defense but their triple option is always hard to prep for...good thing we have an extra week.

No_Skill
11-20-2016, 03:12 PM
I have no idea. Is Cal Poly good?

Triple option pound it at you team.

No_Skill
11-20-2016, 03:13 PM
Linebackers out won't be good for the Cal Poly game.

oldmantutters
11-20-2016, 03:14 PM
They are still doing their best to not have 2 teams from the same conference meet in the championship game.

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Vet70
11-20-2016, 03:15 PM
Buckle up, it's going to be a rough ride.

semobison
11-20-2016, 03:15 PM
We get San Diego or Poly in the second round...

We get Poly in the 2nd round. SD would struggle to win a game in the MVFC.

bruinbison
11-20-2016, 03:16 PM
They are still doing their best to not have 2 teams from the same conference meet in the championship game.

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That's what makes me irritated about this.
It's also a lack of respect for the Missouri Valley......
......just like last year......

FFBison
11-20-2016, 03:17 PM
Regionalization hidden by seeding...could have easily flipped NDSU/UND to avoid MVFC and Big Sky matchups. But being that UND didn't play EWU, that may have had a factor as well.

Whatever...let's heal up and crush whatever opponent is in front of us. Home field.

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:17 PM
well at least NDSU gets 2 weeks to prepare for the triple option and get the new LB's situated since im sure PGT will be a no go.

Mr Meaty
11-20-2016, 03:18 PM
No road will be easy. I like our side of the bracket. Shsu won't make it that far.

JMB
11-20-2016, 03:18 PM
I think Cal Poly played San Diego this year. I hate it when they do that.

Mr Pep Band
11-20-2016, 03:18 PM
#SDSU-fans-say-FU%$-you-committee .......again :facepalm:

Mr Pep Band
11-20-2016, 03:19 PM
No road will be easy. I like our side of the bracket. Shsu won't make it that far.

double post

Mr Pep Band
11-20-2016, 03:19 PM
I think Cal Poly played San Diego this year. I hate it when they do that.

THEY DID!!!!
:rofl::rofl::ranting:

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:21 PM
Fighting Bo Pelinis @ JSU will be interesting

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 03:22 PM
SDSU again. 2 of the 4 best teams in the country meeting in the quarters. So dumb. They could have given us UND for the same money and avoided 2 conference head to heads, instead creating cross conference cochamp games. Fucking NC A&T with an at large. They might not beat San Diego. At least the MVFC got 4 in. The rest of this is pretty much garbage.

NDSUBowler
11-20-2016, 03:23 PM
Awful draw for NDSU.

But whatever...gotta win them all anyways so bring it on.

Hammersmith
11-20-2016, 03:24 PM
AGS nails it again with 24 of 24. Only thing they got wrong was UND & SDSU being flipped.

ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 03:24 PM
Cal Poly will be tough with that offense. Defense has to be ready to play. Offense has to put up some points

Wally
11-20-2016, 03:25 PM
Death, taxes, sdsu vs NDSU in the playoffs.

JMB
11-20-2016, 03:26 PM
Think about this... 3 of the top 8 are from the two Dakotas... Screw the south!

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 03:28 PM
Cal Poly will be tough with that offense. Defense has to be ready to play. Offense has to put up some points

A little concerned with our LB core beat up and no Tanguay but our d-backs are good in run support. Spread passing games scare me more.

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:30 PM
AGS nails it again with 24 of 24. Only thing they got wrong was UND & SDSU being flipped.

thats actually pretty impressive.

FCS Nation
11-20-2016, 03:30 PM
Screw the south!

The South Will Rise Again!!!


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NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 03:31 PM
UND got a very favorable path...Richmond is a shell of what they once were. Wouldn't be shocked if NC A&T beats them.

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:31 PM
A little concerned with or LB core beat up and no Tanguay but our d-backs are good in run support. Spread passing games scare me more.

The defensive plan vs SDSU in October...........do the opposite

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:31 PM
UND got a very favorable path...Richmond is a shell of what they once were. Wouldn't be shocked if NC A&T beats them.

Theyre going to get torched by EWU. SDSU & EWU would've been a treat for all of America.

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 03:32 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxuAh4BUoAEtVoA.jpg

Vet70
11-20-2016, 03:32 PM
Forget about SDSU for now. CAL POLY beat them in Brookings and ran for 440 yards and over seven a rush. This side of the bracket is going to be a brutal gauntlet.

leeshajo
11-20-2016, 03:32 PM
Theyre going to get torched by EWU. SDSU & EWU would've been a treat for all of America.

You mean the 110-109 score? (btw not even sure that is possible) and utter lack of defense?

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 03:33 PM
UND got a very favorable path...Richmond is a shell of what they once were. Wouldn't be shocked if NC A&T beats them.

Agree about UNDs path and Richmond's state, but I'd still be shocked if NCAT won that game. That's a terrible at large selection by the committee.

Hammerhead
11-20-2016, 03:33 PM
NDSU vs UND in Frisco!

aces1180
11-20-2016, 03:34 PM
Would love to see 'Nova in the dome on Dec. 3...They were supposed to be there back in 2010.

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:36 PM
You mean the 110-109 score? (btw not even sure that is possible) and utter lack of defense?

pretty much. Kupp vs Weineke? (would have been) in.

FFBison
11-20-2016, 03:38 PM
Would love to see 'Nova in the dome on Dec. 3...They were supposed to be there back in 2010.

Would that have been an NDSU home game? Didn't recall that.

CalBison97
11-20-2016, 03:39 PM
Wish we would have been the 2 seed.


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aces1180
11-20-2016, 03:39 PM
Predictions for attendance at UND on Dec. 3 for a 5 pm kickoff? Teh hockies play at 6:30 that night in NYC.

I say < 10,000

aces1180
11-20-2016, 03:40 PM
Would that have been an NDSU home game? Didn't recall that.

Both teams were not seeded, so it would have been based on bid...It was always assumed we'd have the game.

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 03:40 PM
Would that have been an NDSU home game? Didn't recall that.

I think NDSU had the higher bid

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 03:42 PM
So NDSU gets paired with the seed with the 5th best chance to win the title? Makes sense FCS committee.

Bisonator98
11-20-2016, 03:46 PM
Predictions for attendance at UND on Dec. 3 for a 5 pm kickoff? Teh hockies play at 6:30 that night in NYC.

I say < 10,000

They'll probably promise to show teh hockies on the big screen to get more people to show up.

natstar1
11-20-2016, 03:47 PM
NDSU vs UND in Frisco!

http://i.imgur.com/ptbfJUS.gif

Bisonator98
11-20-2016, 03:47 PM
Bring on Cal Poly! One game at a time boys let's do this!

RadioBison
11-20-2016, 03:48 PM
Agree about UNDs path and Richmond's state, but I'd still be shocked if NCAT won that game. That's a terrible at large selection by the committee.

But, they're 9-2, so they've got to be better than a 5-6 UNI team, right?

Christopher Moen
11-20-2016, 03:50 PM
I like it when the committee pisses off the Bison. Looking forward to NDSU getting their revenge in the QF.


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td577
11-20-2016, 03:54 PM
Agree about UNDs path and Richmond's state, but I'd still be shocked if NCAT won that game. That's a terrible at large selection by the committee.

NCAT had to lose to selected and the team that beat them would not have been selected. That alone should have have enough red flags.

Professor Chaos
11-20-2016, 03:54 PM
I love the bracket! A chance at revenge in the quarters. A great chance for the defense to silence the critics with some prolific passing offenses on our side of the bracket. It's time for the Bison playoff machine to get rolling!

No_Skill
11-20-2016, 03:55 PM
Just saw the reaction of the SDSU team to getting the 8 seed. They were pumped. Definitely look like a team who wants to knock us out.

aces1180
11-20-2016, 03:55 PM
Big lovefest for the Bison on the show...

NorthernBison
11-20-2016, 03:57 PM
Championships are earned. No reason to fear SDSU unless we really think they are the better team.

If they come to Fargo and win TWICE, then we have absolutely nothing to bitch about.


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NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 03:57 PM
Wow NCAT was solidly in.

aces1180
11-20-2016, 03:58 PM
Championships are earned. No reason to fear SDSU unless we really think they are the better team.

If they come to Fargo and win TWICE, then we have absolutely nothing to bitch about.


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Agreed...And they beat us with five seconds left.

They still don't have a win against us in the playoffs.

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 03:59 PM
Wow NCAT was solidly in.

What a joke.

aces1180
11-20-2016, 04:00 PM
Jay Walker...SMH

BisonAccountant44
11-20-2016, 04:00 PM
Well time to find out who this Bison team and coaching staff really are.

HerdBot
11-20-2016, 04:00 PM
Turn into Bison 1660 now...

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 04:01 PM
Was scared we were about to get the Jay Walker kiss of death for a second there.

scottietohottie
11-20-2016, 04:01 PM
Well stig is really looking forward to coming back to Fargo to get his kitchen sink back. Yeah he left it in the fargodome last game.

GOBISON123
11-20-2016, 04:02 PM
I love Brock Spack man, especially how he got his team ready to play the Jack Rabbits. The had one feet in the regular season grave but the played with so much heart it was unbelievable.

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 04:03 PM
Championships are earned. No reason to fear SDSU unless we really think they are the better team.

If they come to Fargo and win TWICE, then we have absolutely nothing to bitch about.


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sure we do, then we say UND should've been #8 :rofl:

SDSU would win by 14+ over the Hawks

td577
11-20-2016, 04:03 PM
I love the bracket! A chance at revenge in the quarters. A great chance for the defense to silence the critics with some prolific passing offenses on our side of the bracket. It's time for the Bison playoff machine to get rolling!

I don't have a problem with the bracket. Just slightly surprised at 7 and 8. I really thought they would be flipped around to present some seriously interesting quarterfinal matchups. Mostly I wanted to see a potential EWU/SDSU matchup. We got the #1 seed, now it is time to play like the #1 seed, and destroy everyone in the Bison path to Frisco in the dome.

td577
11-20-2016, 04:05 PM
Well stig is really looking forward to coming back to Fargo to get his kitchen sink back. Yeah he left it in the fargodome last game.

I agree. They threw everything they had into that game.

FCS Nation
11-20-2016, 04:05 PM
Wofford hosts Chas So with the winner at The General. I really don't want to see Wofford again this season. Their defense is excellent. The Citadel owes the Bucs....

Vet70
11-20-2016, 04:08 PM
I agree. They threw everything they had into that game.

If we meet them in the quarters they will do the same.

NorthernBison
11-20-2016, 04:08 PM
I don't have a problem with the bracket. Just slightly surprised at 7 and 8. I really thought they would be flipped around to present some seriously interesting quarterfinal matchups. Mostly I wanted to see a potential EWU/SDSU matchup. We got the #1 seed, now it is time to play like the #1 seed, and destroy everyone in the Bison path to Frisco in the dome.

Hard to flip 7 and 8 based on objective criteria. Better record and they do have a common opponent. One lost at home I think.

They don't seed based on future matchups according to the Chairman.


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tony
11-20-2016, 04:09 PM
I disagree about the seeding being manipulated - pretty sure they submit their votes in to prevent that kind of stuff.

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 04:11 PM
SRS ratings...

1. North Dakota St. 2.00
2. Eastern Wash. 1.91
3. Jacksonville St. 1.36
4. Sam Houston St. 1.35
5. South Dakota St. 1.22
6. The Citadel 1.22
7. James Madison 1.09
8. North Dakota 1.05
9. Central Ark. 1.03
10. Youngstown St. 1.02
11. Coastal Caro. 0.92
12. Charleston So. 0.86
13. Lehigh 0.86
14. Chattanooga 0.81
15. Grambling 0.77
16. Villanova 0.72
17. Wofford 0.70
18. Cal Poly 0.68
19. UNI 0.63
20. Southern Utah 0.49
21. Richmond 0.48
22. Illinois St. 0.46
23. Princeton 0.46
24. Samford 0.45
25. Western Ill. 0.43
26. San Diego 0.40
27. Weber St. 0.34
28. N.C. A&T 0.29
29. Montana 0.28
30. New Hampshire 0.24

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/simple-ratings-system

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 04:12 PM
Hard to flip 7 and 8 based on objective criteria. Better record and they do have a common opponent. One lost at home I think.

They don't seed based on future matchups according to the Chairman.


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No it isn't hard. SDSU would still be under seeded at 7 and UND over seeded at 8, based say on the objective evaluation of Sagarin algorithm, just for example.

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 04:13 PM
Not sure why Cal Poly SD rematch. Is that a bus trip?

FFBison
11-20-2016, 04:14 PM
There should be no reason we can't run on the bunnies if that matchup presents itself...right? We sure didn't in the first matchup, but did big Zack play that game?

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 04:15 PM
Not sure why Cal Poly SD rematch. Is that a bus trip?

Yep...only way to avoid two long flights was to pair them up so they could bus.

tony
11-20-2016, 04:20 PM
Not sure why Cal Poly SD rematch. Is that a bus trip?

Probably, it's just over 300 miles, but they have to go through LA.

ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 04:22 PM
What a joke.

MEAC should be excluded after going the bowl route. Albany should be in over them.

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 04:35 PM
MEAC should be excluded after going the bowl route. Albany should be in over them.

I don't have a problem with the conference being included in the process. NCAT just isn't good enough to be an at large.

heffray
11-20-2016, 04:38 PM
NDSU vs UND in Frisco!

No. No. No.

No.

DIBISON
11-20-2016, 04:41 PM
Hard to flip 7 and 8 based on objective criteria. Better record and they do have a common opponent. One lost at home I think.

They don't seed based on future matchups according to the Chairman.


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You forgot the objective criteria related to SOS, SRS rating, Sagarin rating, and overall conference strength. Other than the overall record SDSU is much stronger based on all of the rating and ranking criteria. SDSU should have been seeded higher than UND.

BisonTeacher
11-20-2016, 05:01 PM
Shsu salty. They should make 5 seed t shirts.

td577
11-20-2016, 05:08 PM
If we meet them in the quarters they will do the same.

Sure, but everything they can and will do is on tape now. They will still be tough, but there will be no element of surprise.

HerdBot
11-20-2016, 05:10 PM
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/road-to-frisco-the-bison-bracket-show-with-jeff-culhane-and-jeremy-jorgenson


Here is the "Road To Frisco: The Bison Bracket Show" with Jeff Culhane and Jeremy Jorgenson

Guests include Anish Sheroff from ESPN and a return discussion from the chairman of the playoff committee

NorthernBison
11-20-2016, 05:13 PM
You forgot the objective criteria related to SOS, SRS rating, Sagarin rating, and overall conference strength. Other than the overall record SDSU is much stronger based on all of the rating and ranking criteria. SDSU should have been seeded higher than UND.

Maybe SDSU should have beat Cal Poly.

I guess some people are scared of the Rabbits. Our objective is to win it all. It's not about going to a certain round. Therefore, it's immaterial who we play and when.


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ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 05:14 PM
You forgot the objective criteria related to SOS, SRS rating, Sagarin rating, and overall conference strength. Other than the overall record SDSU is much stronger based on all of the rating and ranking criteria. SDSU should have been seeded higher than UND.

If SDSU had lost one less game than I would agree with you

thebigund
11-20-2016, 05:15 PM
One thing you should know about Poly is that their QB is actually a really good passer. Because of that it's more of a quadruple option. Their D isn't all that great though. Should be a fun game for you guys.

bisonaudit
11-20-2016, 05:50 PM
If SDSU had lost one less game than I would agree with you

I guess you had SHSU at the top of your bracket then?

SloStang
11-20-2016, 05:56 PM
One thing you should know about Poly is that their QB is actually a really good passer. Because of that it's more of a quadruple option. Their D isn't all that great though. Should be a fun game for you guys.
Great offense and not so good efense (no D in it). Looking forward (if we get past USD for the second time this year) to playing our old conference mates.

CaBisonFan
11-20-2016, 06:07 PM
Great offense and not so good efense (no D in it). Looking forward (if we get past USD for the second time this year) to playing our old conference mates. We remember the last game at Cal Poly. Quite the game. You were really good then too.

SloStang
11-20-2016, 06:26 PM
One thing you should know about Poly is that their QB is actually a really good passer. Because of that it's more of a quadruple option. Their D isn't all that great though. Should be a fun game for you guys.
He was 13 of 14 passing for 191 yards and 2 TDs last night. He also rushed 18 times for 147 yards and a TD.

For the year he is 91 of 139 for 1,445 yards and 17 TDs and 4 INTs. He has rushed 149 times for 684 yards and 9 TDs. He does not throw a lot, but he is efficient when he does.

Defense is where we have struggled. We give up 130 yards rushing and 268 yards passing a game (399 total yards a game).

ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 06:31 PM
I guess you had SHSU at the top of your bracket then?

I posted mine

bisonforever
11-20-2016, 06:36 PM
Looking at the brackets, EWU has pretty easy path to Frisco.

BattleBorn
11-20-2016, 06:39 PM
May get crucified for this, but really hoping UND makes it to Cheney. That's a hell of a measuring stick for them, would like to see how they stack up on the field.

Bison Bridge Guy
11-20-2016, 06:44 PM
Shsu salty. They should make 5 seed t shirts.

They looked absolutely pissed when they were shown after their seed was announced.

thebigund
11-20-2016, 06:48 PM
He was 13 of 14 passing for 191 yards and 2 TDs last night. He also rushed 18 times for 147 yards and a TD.

For the year he is 91 of 139 for 1,445 yards and 17 TDs and 4 INTs. He has rushed 149 times for 684 yards and 9 TDs. He does not throw a lot, but he is efficient when he does.

Defense is where we have struggled. We give up 130 yards rushing and 268 yards passing a game (399 total yards a game).
Graves is a beast.

wagsabison
11-20-2016, 07:02 PM
May get crucified for this, but really hoping UND makes it to Cheney. That's a hell of a measuring stick for them, would like to see how they stack up on the field.

Richmond might take them down


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Bison Bridge Guy
11-20-2016, 07:07 PM
Reminder for playoff tickets...unless it has changed, there is no benefit in paying online if you live in FM - you still have to go to the dome to pick them up and there is a processing fee for paying online. So if you can make it to the dome before the deadline, just pay there.

thebigund
11-20-2016, 07:10 PM
Richmond might take them down


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Richmond QB is out for the year. The backups did not look good yesterday.

Da_Bizon
11-20-2016, 07:14 PM
Reminder for playoff tickets...unless it has changed, there is no benefit in paying online if you live in FM - you still have to go to the dome to pick them up and there is a processing fee for paying online. So if you can make it to the dome before the deadline, just pay there.

According to the email, you can now print at home.

Bison Bridge Guy
11-20-2016, 07:23 PM
According to the email, you can now print at home.

Good deal, didn't read the email yet. Still costs more to pay online though. Depends on how many tickets you have whether or not that's a big deal. Also, I forgot the ticket office is at the SHAC now, not the dome.

Hammerhead
11-20-2016, 07:27 PM
Good deal, didn't read the email yet. Still costs more to pay online though. Depends on how many tickets you have whether or not that's a big deal. Also, I forgot the ticket office is at the SHAC now, not the dome.

Will call was $2.00 while print at home tickets are free. I was surprised to get tickets at midfield, even though they are up in row JJ.

ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 07:34 PM
May get crucified for this, but really hoping UND makes it to Cheney. That's a hell of a measuring stick for them, would like to see how they stack up on the field.

I'm seeing Bison fans on social media hoping it's Ndsu vs Und in Frisco :facepalm:

aces1180
11-20-2016, 08:12 PM
I'm seeing Bison fans on social media hoping it's Ndsu vs Und in Frisco :facepalm:

The bitching about the lack of tickets would be epic though, haha.

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 08:33 PM
Wow the amount of salt coming from SHSU is insane. They have become obsessed with our shared title, some even bashing our Iowa win and calling the Hawkeyes weak.

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 08:36 PM
Now the Rabbit coaching staff is whining...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxvG6kYXcAEIfB3.jpg

BlueBisonRock
11-20-2016, 08:41 PM
I'm seeing Bison fans on social media hoping it's Ndsu vs Und in Frisco :facepalm:


The bitching about the lack of tickets would be epic though, haha.

Think about the opportunity for those Bison fans who did not get tickets to order from the UN_ ticket office. They have no method to vet based on location and likely do not have the season ticket holder base to grab their allocation. Even SoCalled would get tickets IF he had them sent to his parental home.

El_Chapo
11-20-2016, 09:01 PM
I'm seeing Bison fans on social media hoping it's Ndsu vs Und in Frisco :facepalm:

I'm really starting to hate this fan base, it's getting overridden with Judy's from hoople! Embarrassing

El_Chapo
11-20-2016, 09:10 PM
just saw the reaction of the sdsu team to getting the 8 seed. They were pumped. Definitely look like a team who wants to knock us out.

ndsu didnt even need a team selection show....haha

PlrbrBison
11-20-2016, 09:28 PM
Does SDSU travel here if it comes to that? We wouldn't go there in the playoffs as a result of losing to them in regular season would we?

Christopher Moen
11-20-2016, 09:36 PM
Now the Rabbit coaching staff is whining...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxvG6kYXcAEIfB3.jpg

NDSU and SDSU do not have the same overall record. Apparently Jacob forgot the Jackrabbits have 3x the losses the Bison have this year (hopefully it will be 4x after all is said and done).

EndZoneQB
11-20-2016, 09:38 PM
Does SDSU travel here if it comes to that? We wouldn't go there in the playoffs as a result of losing to them in regular season would we?

You're kidding, right?

Bison03
11-20-2016, 09:38 PM
Does SDSU travel here if it comes to that? We wouldn't go there in the playoffs as a result of losing to them in regular season would we?
No. Higher seeds host. We wont leave Fargo through December.

PlrbrBison
11-20-2016, 09:55 PM
You're kidding, right?

Nope. Just ignorant.

PlrbrBison
11-20-2016, 09:56 PM
No. Higher seeds host. We wont leave Fargo through December.

Thank you.

Bison Bridge Guy
11-20-2016, 09:59 PM
NDSU and SDSU do not have the same overall record. Apparently Jacob forgot the Jackrabbits have 3x the losses the Bison have this year (hopefully it will be 4x after all is said and done).

Guessing they are hanging their hat on conference record. For some reason.

td577
11-20-2016, 10:00 PM
Now the Rabbit coaching staff is whining...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxvG6kYXcAEIfB3.jpg

You teach your youth it is the entire body of work that is judged and if you want to play in a program that loses a game, learns from it, and drives on by winning out the rest of the season, go to NDSU.

HerdBoy
11-20-2016, 10:05 PM
NDSU and SDSU do not have the same overall record. Apparently Jacob forgot the Jackrabbits have 3x the losses the Bison have this year (hopefully it will be 4x after all is said and done).

I think someone didn't teach him how to do Math in his youth.

SDbison
11-20-2016, 10:07 PM
Post on sdsufans.com from a delusional and bitter yote fan (yoteforever): After watching the USD / NDSU game yesterday, and being in Brookings last week, there's no reason you don't beat the Bison by 10 or more. I said it before, and I'll say it again...you are the best team in the league. If the MVFC is the best conference, I do think you can win it all.

StL Bison Fan
11-20-2016, 10:12 PM
Think about the opportunity for those Bison fans who did not get tickets to order from the UN_ ticket office. They have no method to vet based on location and likely do not have the season ticket holder base to grab their allocation. Even SoCalled would get tickets IF he had them sent to his parental home.

Its hockies season. There will be plenty of Frisco tics.

StL Bison Fan
11-20-2016, 10:14 PM
NDSU and SDSU do not have the same overall record. Apparently Jacob forgot the Jackrabbits have 3x the losses the Bison have this year (hopefully it will be 4x after all is said and done).

How can this guy have a job coaching in the MVFC and not even understand the rules? Nice hire Stig. Maybe you should take away his twitter account.

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 10:19 PM
did coach dickert whine about this the x amount of other times NDSU had to share a title with UNI/ISUR etc?

shows you how small time they are when they actually care about sharing a title. lulz

scbison91
11-20-2016, 10:21 PM
Does SDSU travel here if it comes to that? We wouldn't go there in the playoffs as a result of losing to them in regular season would we? You get the #1 seed for reason.. sheesh.

SDbison
11-20-2016, 10:28 PM
did coach dickert whine about this the x amount of other times NDSU had to share a title with UNI/ISUR etc?

shows you how small time they are when they actually care about sharing a title. lulz Just hang around the knucklehead SDSU fans for a while. Most think they already won a potential playoff game against NDSU. In fact, some think that Cal Poly will beat NDSU. Maybe the Jacks will make all these plans and end up losing to Villanova.

bisonridge
11-20-2016, 10:45 PM
Did dickert use to coach at ndsu? I use to work with his wife in Fargo and thought he was at ndsu.

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td577
11-20-2016, 10:48 PM
Did dickert use to coach at ndsu? I use to work with his wife in Fargo and thought he was at ndsu.

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2008-2010 at NDSU

BFKasper14
11-20-2016, 10:51 PM
2008-2010 at NDSU

There's probably a reason he left. We don't like whiny bitches on our sideline. What a whiny little shit.


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NDSU1980
11-20-2016, 10:51 PM
Now the Rabbit coaching staff is whining...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxvG6kYXcAEIfB3.jpg
Why would their coaching staff be any different than their prick fans?

G_Funky
11-20-2016, 10:54 PM
Now the Rabbit coaching staff is whining...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxvG6kYXcAEIfB3.jpg

bahaha Dickert coached at NDSU for a couple years...then goes on and throws them under the bus.

if they are true champions maybe they should act like they've been there before...oh wait...


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Bison bison
11-20-2016, 10:57 PM
dickert butthurt...

G_Funky
11-20-2016, 10:59 PM
did ndsu do a "watch party"?

i haven't seen anything.


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Vet70
11-20-2016, 10:59 PM
NDSU had a better loss. It was close. One of our best players was out. Sound Familiar?

StL Bison Fan
11-20-2016, 11:39 PM
Per Haley tweet. Kind of sad, but next man up. Will they win to face the undies?

As Richmond @SpiderFootball feared. QB Kyle Lauletta has a torn ACL and his season is over. Spiders next host @NCATAGGIES in #FCSPlayoffs.

PlrbrBison
11-21-2016, 12:04 AM
You get the #1 seed for reason.. sheesh.

Say now....be nice.

natstar1
11-21-2016, 12:11 AM
Tweet is cut off and it's a stupid tweet, but I looked at the whole thing and I agree with him. If two teams finish with the same record and won the head to head they should be outright champions.

What are we teaching our youth when two teams have the same record but one team lost the head to head yet can still share the title????

StL Bison Fan
11-21-2016, 12:15 AM
Tweet is cut off and it's a stupid tweet, but I looked at the whole thing and I agree with him. If two teams finish with the same record and won the head to head they should be outright champions.

What are we teaching our youth when two teams have the same record but one team lost the head to head yet can still share the title????

this makes sense when you play all the teams in your conference. But the mvfc (and the bsc) dont play everyone- thus rules like this. another good reason not to expand.

MNLonghorn10
11-21-2016, 12:17 AM
he sure as shit wouldn't have tweeted that had both teams been 7-4 and on the bubble with SDSU getting the AQ, while NDSU had to sweat it out.

NDSUstudent
11-21-2016, 12:17 AM
I don't think our coaches whined when UNI painted another conference title on the garage door in 2011.

natstar1
11-21-2016, 12:29 AM
I don't think our coaches whined when UNI painted another conference title on the garage door in 2011.

you're right even if you don't agree with it you don't say anything

Vet70
11-21-2016, 12:30 AM
You teach the kids that you live with the rules that are set out ahead of time and don't whine. I doubt he would have minded sharing the title if the situation had been reversed.

td577
11-21-2016, 12:33 AM
this makes sense when you play all the teams in your conference. But the mvfc (and the bsc) dont play everyone- thus rules like this. another good reason not to expand.

The more I think about this the more it makes sense to me it would be impossible to create any tiebreakers when everyone doesn't play each other, even when you have situations like this where SDSU and NDSU did play each other. What if there was a third team tied that one of the other two didn't play? It would get way too messy to come up with a equitable solution. It is kind of funny that even though NDSU has the goal of winning a conference championship every season and acknowledges it, it isn't that big of a deal. It means a lot less if finishing the playoffs without a W at this point. They should have beat ISUr and this wouldn't have been a conversation. They are conference champions and got the AQ. If that is all that matters to them, let them have it. The Bison are really in the game for the second season.

BisonTeacher
11-21-2016, 12:40 AM
Conference titles are nice but ill be happier with the national title.

NDSUstudent
11-21-2016, 01:25 AM
FCS Playoffs Expert
‏@The_Bison_Logo
Based on the tweets coming from the team and coaching staff, the SDSU tweet appears to have rubbed them the wrong way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8rNb1BAXxU

Vet70
11-21-2016, 01:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8rNb1BAXxU

Here's hoping we get by CP and the Jacks keep putting out bulletin board material.

1998braves64
11-21-2016, 01:36 AM
Now the Rabbit coaching staff is whining...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxvG6kYXcAEIfB3.jpg

must of deleted it after realizing that NDSU was 10-1 and Jacks were 8-3 but still had the AQ??


Oops thought that it was referencing the seeding not the conference championship. Anyways If you don't want to share, don't lose ever... ISUr beat SDSU shouldn't they get a share by beating the AQ??

NorthernBison
11-21-2016, 01:43 AM
You teach the kids that you live with the rules that are set out ahead of time and don't whine. I doubt he would have minded sharing the title if the situation had been reversed.

In the days of the NCC, titles were shared too. Everybody played everybody else.

And yeah, there is no way the Jacks would be whining if the situation were reversed.


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EC8CH
11-21-2016, 02:14 AM
Did the chairman misspeak when he said their bid offer had an impact on NC A&T being an at large team? If not how is that not a huge scandal? If not it means the FCS playoffs are for sale to the highest bidder.

BlueBisonRock
11-21-2016, 02:22 AM
I'm seeing Bison fans on social media hoping it's Ndsu vs Und in Frisco :facepalm:


NDSU and SDSU do not have the same overall record. Apparently Jacob forgot the Jackrabbits have 3x the losses the Bison have this year (hopefully it will be 4x after all is said and done).

And I thought this type of whining was only valid in politics.

Jude3
11-21-2016, 02:27 AM
Did the chairman misspeak when he said their bid offer had an impact on NC A&T being an at large team? If not how is that not a huge scandal? If not it means the FCS playoffs are for sale to the highest bidder.

Is this for real?

EC8CH
11-21-2016, 02:34 AM
Is this for real?

Listen to "Road To Frisco: The Bison Bracket Show" with Jeff Culhane and Jeremy Jorgenson by Bison 1660 #np on #SoundCloud

https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/road-to-frisco-the-bison-bracket-show-with-jeff-culhane-and-jeremy-jorgenson

Question starts at 38:30 listen until end.

FFBison
11-21-2016, 02:41 AM
Is this for real?

Yes this is real...heard it with my own ears on 1660 this morning. Jorgenson even brought it up after the discussion with the chairman. My first reaction too was..."is that legit?" Then I figured it must be because who would be dumb enough to say it live on the radio waves. Then I though...members of this committee would be that dumb.

I have no idea if this is legit, but its certainly interesting.

Jude3
11-21-2016, 02:49 AM
Wow. That sounds pretty shady. Any chance we could get the Port to ask for an open records request? Haha

abc123
11-21-2016, 03:06 AM
Did the chairman misspeak when he said their bid offer had an impact on NC A&T being an at large team? If not how is that not a huge scandal? If not it means the FCS playoffs are for sale to the highest bidder.

Their bid clearly wasn't very high, they aren't hosting so the NCAA isn't getting any money from them. Guessing he misspoke.

Hammersmith
11-21-2016, 04:29 AM
Did the chairman misspeak when he said their bid offer had an impact on NC A&T being an at large team? If not how is that not a huge scandal? If not it means the FCS playoffs are for sale to the highest bidder.

Got to be a misspeak. Haven't listened, but I'm sure he meant bid as in their resume and not bid as in how much money. I believe they don't open the bids until the entire field is set.

I believe the order of events goes something like this:

1. Committee members introduce teams for consideration.
2. Discussion is had on each team. When a team is being discussed, the conference rep for that team leaves the room.
3. Teams are voted on. Unanimous teams get put on the list.
4. More discussion and voting until the rest of the field is set.
5. Secret ballot to pick seeds. One vote and it's done.
6. Rest of field goes into the bracket using the NCAA guidelines and more discussion.
7. Bids are opened and home teams assigned.

bisonmike2
11-21-2016, 11:33 AM
In the days of the NCC, titles were shared too. Everybody played everybody else.

And yeah, there is no way the Jacks would be whining if the situation were reversed.


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They can have the AQ and conference championship. Around here we play for national titles.

MNLonghorn10
11-21-2016, 12:30 PM
They can have the AQ and conference championship. Around here we play for national titles.
Reminds me of the movie dodgeball where sdsu is average Joe's and ndsu is global gym.

Sdsu: how could you enter the fcs playoffs, you didn't even win a regional qualifying match.

Ndsu: oh my god we didn't win a regional qualifying match. Oh that's right now I remember...the fcs chairman happens to be an extremely close personal friend of mine. I also helped him shed some unwanted pounds before beach season. So close your rule book on that one, Poindexter.

tony
11-21-2016, 12:42 PM
Got to be a misspeak. Haven't listened, but I'm sure he meant bid as in their resume and not bid as in how much money. I believe they don't open the bids until the entire field is set.

I believe the order of events goes something like this:

1. Committee members introduce teams for consideration.
2. Discussion is had on each team. When a team is being discussed, the conference rep for that team leaves the room.
3. Teams are voted on. Unanimous teams get put on the list.
4. More discussion and voting until the rest of the field is set.
5. Secret ballot to pick seeds. One vote and it's done.
6. Rest of field goes into the bracket using the NCAA guidelines and more discussion.
7. Bids are opened and home teams assigned.

I'm not even sure that Bisonville could come up with a better system than that.

THEsocalledfan
11-21-2016, 01:27 PM
Got to be a misspeak. Haven't listened, but I'm sure he meant bid as in their resume and not bid as in how much money. I believe they don't open the bids until the entire field is set.

I believe the order of events goes something like this:

1. Committee members introduce teams for consideration.
2. Discussion is had on each team. When a team is being discussed, the conference rep for that team leaves the room.
3. Teams are voted on. Unanimous teams get put on the list.
4. More discussion and voting until the rest of the field is set.
5. Secret ballot to pick seeds. One vote and it's done.
6. Rest of field goes into the bracket using the NCAA guidelines and more discussion.
7. Bids are opened and home teams assigned.

I heard the interview, and it sure sounded like the bid was the main reason NC A&T got in. JJ thought maybe the MEAC helped them financially on the bid. He also thinks they will get pasted.

For those who think money is not a factor, you are a bit naive......

Professor Chaos
11-21-2016, 01:36 PM
I heard the interview, and it sure sounded like the bid was the main reason NC A&T got in. JJ thought maybe the MEAC helped them financially on the bid. He also thinks they will get pasted.

For those who think money is not a factor, you are a bit naive......
They're not even hosting vs Richmond (who averaged about 8k per home game last year). How could their bid be that astronomical? Even if it was it doesn't matter unless they make the quarters because if they win this week they're going to Grand Forks next week no matter what their bid was. I'm nearly positive the committee chair just bumbled his terms.

I also wouldn't be too sure about them getting pasted. Richmond's QB Lauletta tore his ACL in their last regular season game and they lost handily to a pretty bad William & Mary team. Of course that sets up UND to get a MEAC cupcake on their way to the quarters before they run into the red turf buzz saw in the "Big Sky Championship Game".

THEsocalledfan
11-21-2016, 02:17 PM
They're not even hosting vs Richmond (who averaged about 8k per home game last year). How could their bid be that astronomical? Even if it was it doesn't matter unless they make the quarters because if they win this week they're going to Grand Forks next week no matter what their bid was. I'm nearly positive the committee chair just bumbled his terms.

I also wouldn't be too sure about them getting pasted. Richmond's QB Lauletta tore his ACL in their last regular season game and they lost handily to a pretty bad William & Mary team. Of course that sets up UND to get a MEAC cupcake on their way to the quarters before they run into the red turf buzz saw in the "Big Sky Championship Game".

That's really weird. They made it sound like NC A&T got the home game. Now, i have no idea what they were talking about. both what the guy said, then JJ's comments after.

cpa_guy
11-21-2016, 02:30 PM
Did the chairman misspeak when he said their bid offer had an impact on NC A&T being an at large team? If not how is that not a huge scandal? If not it means the FCS playoffs are for sale to the highest bidder.

I interpreted the chairman's comments to mean that the fact that NC A&T even submitted a bid offer (not the amount) was a representation of their intention to participate in the playoffs. I would imagine that most tops teams from the SWAC/MEAC never submit a bid.

NDSUstudent
11-21-2016, 02:52 PM
From what I can remember NC A&T was one of the MEAC schools that wanted to compete in the playoffs, so I am not surprised they put in a bid and I'm sure they are very excited to be in the field.

Bison"FANatic"
11-21-2016, 02:56 PM
Now that makes more sense then, it would suck if the committee invites a team to participate and then they decline. By them submitting a bid they basically said they would play.

Bison03
11-21-2016, 03:06 PM
Reminds me of the movie dodgeball where sdsu is average Joe's and ndsu is global gym.

Sdsu: how could you enter the fcs playoffs, you didn't even win a regional qualifying match.

Ndsu: oh my god we didn't win a regional qualifying match. Oh that's right now I remember...the fcs chairman happens to be an extremely close personal friend of mine. I also helped him shed some unwanted pounds before beach season. So close your rule book on that one, Poindexter.

Fuckin' Committee Chair!!

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M3492e4dee87b1dfbd0ae53bc42366bf2H0&w=300&h=226&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dodgeball+fat&view=detailv2&&id=C45933E11CF5F368754A77FE1E032B548816121E&selectedIndex=0&ccid=NJLk3uh7&simid=608028552728740697&thid=OIP.M3492e4dee87b1dfbd0ae53bc42366bf2H0)

Bison 4 Life
11-21-2016, 03:48 PM
Holy shit are the SDSU dummies pissed.

Hey blind squirrel, enjoy your nut, stop waving it around or someone might take it back.

Vet70
11-21-2016, 03:52 PM
Holy shit are the SDSU dummies pissed.

Hey blind squirrel, enjoy your nut, stop waving it around or someone might take it back.

That is what happens when you have never been there before.

bisonaudit
11-21-2016, 04:16 PM
I don't see what the big thing is about the MVFC split title is but they've got good reason to be pissed about their playoff draw.

Bison 4 Life
11-21-2016, 04:43 PM
I don't see what the big thing is about the MVFC split title is but they've got good reason to be pissed about their playoff draw.

That's not what they seem to be complaining about.

THEsocalledfan
11-21-2016, 05:05 PM
PGT MCL strain; no tear!

TateMosersneighbor
11-21-2016, 05:12 PM
I strained mine getting up to mix a Morgan Coke (Silver Rum this time) on Saturday. Since it was a higher up the leg strain and I was lubed up...I should be fine for the 2nd round game.

Regardless of how this season ends...our defense is going to be filthy next year.

Christopher Moen
11-21-2016, 05:50 PM
I don't see what the big thing is about the MVFC split title is but they've got good reason to be pissed about their playoff draw.

SDSU should try its best to be quiet. Them and their fans have left a ton of stupid material on NDSU's bulletin board already, and if the match-up happens as it should in the QF, the Bison are going to be full throttle, especially #8:

https://twitter.com/Jaybartley34/status/787685380392833025

Yes, they won the regular season match-up, but that required them playing at their absolute best while the Bison were going through a tough situation that week. I'm looking forward to seeing the Bison in play-off beast mode - no mercy.

G_Funky
11-21-2016, 06:07 PM
I don't see what the big thing is about the MVFC split title is but they've got good reason to be pissed about their playoff draw.

they're actually happy with the playoff draw.

confidence through the roof over at sdsufans about their quarter final match up in Fargo.


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NDSUstudent
11-21-2016, 06:14 PM
Oddly SHSU fans are much more pissed off about our shared title, to them it means we should be disqualified from a top 2 seed. They are obsessed with it.

SDbison
11-21-2016, 06:34 PM
they're actually happy with the playoff draw.

confidence through the roof over at sdsufans about their quarter final match up in Fargo.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk LOL.......you should hear their fans down here. They believe their 2 point victory over NDSU during the regular season assures them of a win in the playoffs. Currently talking about which SDSU player should be player of the year, etc.

TransAmBison
11-21-2016, 06:36 PM
Oddly SHSU fans are much more pissed off about our shared title, to them it means we should be disqualified from a top 2 seed. They are obsessed with it.butundefeated. It doesn't matter if it is against junior high teams...it is near impossible to be undefeated. Just ask them.

Bison 4 Life
11-21-2016, 06:41 PM
Savage, I love it.

http://i.imgur.com/GfTXYXi.png

NDSUstudent
11-21-2016, 06:45 PM
butundefeated. It doesn't matter if it is against junior high teams...it is near impossible to be undefeated. Just ask them.

Yeah, they love to talk about how hard it is to be undefeated and then they'll turn around and rip NDSU and EWU's FBS wins. I'm like WTF? If their school beat Iowa they would probably hang a banner and print t-shirts to commemorate it.

cbline
11-21-2016, 07:47 PM
Yeah, they love to talk about how hard it is to be undefeated and then they'll turn around and rip NDSU and EWU's FBS wins. I'm like WTF? If their school beat Iowa they would probably hang a banner and print t-shirts to commemorate it.

Or print it on pillow cases for the pillow fight.

briguy13
11-21-2016, 08:38 PM
SDSU beat writer Matt Zimmer's article...

http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/south-dakota-state-university/2016/11/21/zimmer-quit-complaining-fcs-bracket/94176708/

ndsubison1
11-21-2016, 08:45 PM
Oddly SHSU fans are much more pissed off about our shared title, to them it means we should be disqualified from a top 2 seed. They are obsessed with it.

Shared titles are more common than outright

StL Bison Fan
11-21-2016, 08:48 PM
SDSU beat writer Matt Zimmer's article...

http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/south-dakota-state-university/2016/11/21/zimmer-quit-complaining-fcs-bracket/94176708/
So their players are more mature than their assistant coach

Bison 4 Life
11-21-2016, 08:53 PM
So their players are more mature than their assistant coach

The stupid thing is he was butthurt about sharing the conference title. Didn't even mention the playoffs.

I mean, how petty can you be?

THEsocalledfan
11-21-2016, 09:10 PM
The stupid thing is he was butthurt about sharing the conference title. Didn't even mention the playoffs.

I mean, how petty can you be?

Top SD recruit who just happens to be an NDSU verbal took a shot at them over this.

bisonforever
11-27-2016, 02:16 AM
Graves is a beast.
Graves is not a beast! Go Big Fluffy! 0-2 on the opening week!