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NDSUstudent
11-16-2016, 02:35 AM
1. NDSU
2. EWU
3. JSU
4. JMU
5. SHSU
6. The Citadel
7. UCA
8. Richmond
9. UND
10. SDSU

MontBison
11-16-2016, 02:35 AM
1. NDSU
2. EWU
3. JSU
4. JMU
5. SHSU
6. The Citadel
7. UCA
8. Richmond
9. UND
10. SDSU

Wait really? Not to be a Debbie downer here but this weekend has let down written all over it now.

wagsabison
11-16-2016, 02:36 AM
I wonder if shsu stays seeded if they lose?


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NDSUstudent
11-16-2016, 02:36 AM
Wait really?

Yep...really. The committee got it right.

CaBisonFan
11-16-2016, 02:36 AM
Fantastic!! Now...we need a big road win.

EndZoneQB
11-16-2016, 02:37 AM
Really. UND gets an 8 seed pretty much guaranteed because SHSU or UCA will lose.

aces1180
11-16-2016, 02:37 AM
Really. UND gets an 8 seed pretty much guaranteed because SHSU or UCA will lose.


Let's hope SDSU beats UNI...

Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:38 AM
1. NDSU
2. EWU
3. JSU
4. JMU
5. SHSU
6. The Citadel
7. UCA
8. Richmond
9. UND
10. SDSU

They got 1 and 2 right. The rest, I don't care.

aces1180
11-16-2016, 02:39 AM
http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9tu3100o01ql7fyro2_250.gif

CAS4127
11-16-2016, 02:40 AM
Who is UCA?


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NDSUBowler
11-16-2016, 02:40 AM
NDSU UND quarterfinal game Friday Night at Fargodome would be the most amazing thing.

Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:40 AM
Wait really? Not to be a Debbie downer here but this weekend has let down written all over it now.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/f/fd/J-r-williams-batman-slap-robin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130309190504

td577
11-16-2016, 02:40 AM
Who is UCA?


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Central Arkansas

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Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:41 AM
Who is UCA?


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Central Arkansas.

NDSUBowler
11-16-2016, 02:41 AM
Who is UCA?


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Central Arkansas

EDIT: slow pony...

THANK YOU IOWA

Vet70
11-16-2016, 02:41 AM
Now take care of business Saturday!

Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:42 AM
NDSU UND quarterfinal game Friday Night at Fargodome would be the most amazing thing.

I don't see UND winning a game in the playoffs.

MNLonghorn10
11-16-2016, 02:43 AM
thank you football gods

Professor Chaos
11-16-2016, 02:43 AM
Really. UND gets an 8 seed pretty much guaranteed because SHSU or UCA will lose.


Let's hope SDSU beats UNI...
Yeah, I think SDSU can still jump UND. The good news with these rankings is it's pretty clear either UND or SDSU will be seeded after either UCA or SHSU loses and it really would've been messed up to see those two matched up in the first round (as top 10 teams) with the winner going to top seeded NDSU.

89MTBISON
11-16-2016, 02:45 AM
Lookin more and more like UN_ at the Fargodome first weekend in December.

Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:45 AM
The parody radio skit is hilarious in regards to the Clemson/Pittsburgh and Iowa/Michigan games. NDSU getting a lot of mention.

tony
11-16-2016, 02:46 AM
Well, carp, what are we going to complain about now?

MNLonghorn10
11-16-2016, 02:46 AM
katfans meltdown even tho msu moorhead played tougher teams. theyre an embarrassment

thebigund
11-16-2016, 02:47 AM
I don't see UND winning a game in the playoffs.

Why am I not surprised?

NDSUstudent
11-16-2016, 02:48 AM
I'm not sure beating a 5-6 team is going to jump SDSU over UND.

runtheoption
11-16-2016, 02:48 AM
Well, carp, what are we going to complain about now?


The SHAC, Koonce, Polasek, Stick, Vermilion, and the SBOHE.

DIBISON
11-16-2016, 02:49 AM
Yeah, I think SDSU can still jump UND.
No question, especially if SDSU beats a playoff bubble team this Saturday and UND is idle. Why wouldn't two MVFC teams get seeds over two seeds from the Big Sky?

Vet70
11-16-2016, 02:49 AM
Well, carp, what are we going to complain about now?



If we win Saturday, it wasn't by a big enough margin.

Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:49 AM
Why am I not surprised?

Keep in mind that if UND gets the 8 seed, they will more than likely play the #9 team. Has UND played any team that good this year?

89MTBISON
11-16-2016, 02:49 AM
Why am I not surprised?
I'm seein your fat ass in Missoula next weekend.

VirginiaBison
11-16-2016, 02:50 AM
Who is UCA?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Univ Central Arkansas?

CAS4127
11-16-2016, 02:50 AM
Can someone post a bracket as far as how this ranking shakes out, understanding it could change?


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Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:50 AM
The SHAC, Koonce, Polasek, Stick, Vermilion, and the SBOHE.

Sweet, no more complaining about Grimsely.

Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:52 AM
I'm seein your fat ass in Missoula next weekend.

UND will host their first game after getting a bye if they get a seed.

thebigund
11-16-2016, 02:52 AM
I'm seein your fat ass in Missoula next weekend.

My ass is actually very muscular thank you.

Mr Meaty
11-16-2016, 02:53 AM
Hell yeah.... eyes wide open

StL Bison Fan
11-16-2016, 02:55 AM
Well, carp, what are we going to complain about now?



Pretzels. .

NDSUstudent
11-16-2016, 02:55 AM
Can someone post a bracket as far as how this ranking shakes out, understanding it could change?


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Something like this is very possible...

Maine at Lehigh vs 1. NDSU
Weber State at SDSU vs 8. UND
St Francis at YSU vs 5. JMU
Illinois State at Chattanooga vs 4. JSU

Charleston Southern at Wofford vs 6. The Citadel
San Diego at Cal Poly vs 3. SHSU
Samford at Villanova vs 7. Richmond
WIU at UCA vs 2. EWU


Autobids: EWU, Charleston Southern, JMU, SDSU, St. Francis, Jacksonville State, Lehigh, San Diego, The Citadel, SHSU

At Large: NDSU,Chattanooga, Richmond, UND, UCA, YSU, Cal Poly, Villanova, Samford, Wofford, Maine, WIU, Illinois State, Weber State


Bubble: Albany, Montana, UNC, UNH, UNI, NCCU/NCAT, Fordham, UT Martin

Bison Bridge Guy
11-16-2016, 02:56 AM
The SHAC, Koonce, Polasek, Stick, Vermilion, and the SBOHE.

Port, clicks for FCC, tailgating rules, dome nazis, posts in the corners...

ndsubison1
11-16-2016, 02:56 AM
Citadel beats North Carolina that should jump them up

89MTBISON
11-16-2016, 02:56 AM
UND will host their first game after getting a bye if they get a seed.
SHSU UCA finish in a tie saturday after 3 OTs due to a violent thunderstorm cancelling the finish of the game. UN_ hopes for a seed and home game dashed as they finish tied for 9th with SDSU. Montana bids $1 mill for the home game, UN_ loses in Missoula 53-14.

Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 02:59 AM
Can someone post a bracket as far as how this ranking shakes out, understanding it could change?


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Can't do full 24-man Bracket, but by using the top-10, here's what I got in terms of QF if teams play to seed:


(#1 NDSU vs. winner of #8 Richmond/#9 UND) vs. winner of (#4 JMU vs. #5 SHSU)

(#3 JSU vs. #6 The Citadel) vs. winner of (#2 EWU vs. winner of #7 UCA/#10 SDSU)

Hammerhead
11-16-2016, 03:00 AM
Keep in mind that if UND gets the 8 seed, they will more than likely play the #9 team. Has UND played any team that good this year?

I think they will seed UND at #8 with the winner of SDSU and some other team going to Grand Forks so there is still a bus ride to Fargo for the quarterfinals, assuming we win our 1st game.

Mr Meaty
11-16-2016, 03:02 AM
Pretzels. .

They are making me thirty

natstar1
11-16-2016, 03:03 AM
NDSU UND quarterfinal game Friday Night at Fargodome would be the most amazing thing.

guaranteed to happen since I have game this night.

CAS4127
11-16-2016, 03:05 AM
Thanks to those who posted proposed brackets. Makes it easier to understand layout/possibilities.


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El_Chapo
11-16-2016, 03:13 AM
NDSU UND quarterfinal game Friday Night at Fargodome would be the most amazing thing.


dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.

NDSU1980
11-16-2016, 03:20 AM
NDSU UND quarterfinal game Friday Night at Fargodome would be the most amazing thing.

But that would require UN_ to actually win a playoff game and no way is that happening. I doubt they get seeded and they don't deserve to be. Only making the playoffs because USD and NAU destroyed themselves in the last couple minutes of the games.

NDSUBowler
11-16-2016, 03:21 AM
dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.

Aww Lakes I thought we were bros

Bison bison
11-16-2016, 03:22 AM
dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.

i love you, lakes. dont ever change.

natstar1
11-16-2016, 03:26 AM
But that would require UN_ to actually win a playoff game and no way is that happening. I doubt they get seeded and they don't deserve to be. Only making the playoffs because USD and NAU destroyed themselves in the last couple minutes of the games.

Granted they would have to win another game, and a road game at that, but if they stay at #9 it would still be possible.

MNLonghorn10
11-16-2016, 03:32 AM
dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.
You be nice to dick and Mary from hoople!

abc123
11-16-2016, 03:34 AM
But that would require UN_ to actually win a playoff game and no way is that happening. I doubt they get seeded and they don't deserve to be. Only making the playoffs because USD and NAU destroyed themselves in the last couple minutes of the games.
Considering how accurate you've been on your UND predictions/obsessions, UND fans should feel pretty good about this.

El_Chapo
11-16-2016, 03:39 AM
You be nice to dick and Mary from hoople!


Its amazing how many people get stiffy's over this stuff, please consult a doctor from the 108th ranked med school in the country in that stays saluted for 4 hours or more.

NDSU is 5 time champs, ESPN gameday twice, Beat a top 20 FBS team & 8 other FBS teams, but yea, lets get excited about that game?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO.

mango
11-16-2016, 03:57 AM
Lookin more and more like UN_ at the Fargodome first weekend in December.

So if the seeds hold, UND is going to cake walk through SDSU?


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NDSUstudent
11-16-2016, 03:59 AM
So if the seeds hold, UND is going to cake walk through SDSU?


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Yeah, I'm not at all sold on UND beating SDSU, even in the Tin Shed. UND's pass defense is probably the weaker part of their defense.

1998braves64
11-16-2016, 04:04 AM
Maybe the playoff committee is just trolling us??

NDSUstudent
11-16-2016, 04:20 AM
LOL at some sports director from Charleston...


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@dshelton66 North Dakota State has a loss to an unranked team.

https://twitter.com/SEisbergWCIV/status/798735626556370946

kab1one
11-16-2016, 04:21 AM
dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.

It would be epic.

Second or third biggest game in FargoDome History. Behind the Georgia Southern Games. Probably Bison's toughest game en route to Frisco.

tke
11-16-2016, 04:21 AM
Can't do full 24-man Bracket, but by using the top-10, here's what I got in terms of QF if teams play to seed:


(#1 NDSU vs. winner of #8 Richmond/#9 UND) vs. winner of (#4 JMU vs. #5 SHSU)

(#3 JSU vs. #6 The Citadel) vs. winner of (#2 EWU vs. winner of #7 UCA/#10 SDSU)
I don't believe that they are matching up 8/9 and 7/10. They only seed 8. I believe they release 9/10 to keep those fans interested and to say they are next up. However when the seeds hit, 9 and 10 will go wherever regionalization sends them. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but that's my understanding.

Hell it would be possible that UND gets 8 seed and SDSU/other team winner gets routed to Fargo while UND gets College of Faith or whomever.

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NDSUstudent
11-16-2016, 04:29 AM
Do people realize that SDSU plays at UNI this weekend...I'm not sure a close win over a 5-6 team is going to send the committee this huge message to bump the Rabbits over the F'N Hawks.

History says when SDSU and UNI play the game is usually tighter than the SHAC's leg room.

56BISON73
11-16-2016, 04:33 AM
dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.

:rofl: :D

Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 05:04 AM
I don't believe that they are matching up 8/9 and 7/10. They only seed 8. I believe they release 9/10 to keep those fans interested and to say they are next up. However when the seeds hit, 9 and 10 will go wherever regionalization sends them. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but that's my understanding.

Hell it would be possible that UND gets 8 seed and SDSU/other team winner gets routed to Fargo while UND gets College of Faith or whomever.

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If they want to do a true bracket, they would line-up teams accordingly to their ranking. And yes, how they decided where the #9 through #24 get placed is up to them. My post was basically based on how we (USAW) bracket wrestlers at a trials tournament, where nobody is randomly drawn in.

Tony Almeida
11-16-2016, 05:09 AM
History says when SDSU and UNI play the game is usually tighter than the SHAC's leg room.Too soon...

thebigund
11-16-2016, 05:18 AM
Yeah, I'm not at all sold on UND beating SDSU, even in the Tin Shed. UND's pass defense is probably the weaker part of their defense.

We are top 10 against the run yardage wise and I think in the 90s for passing yards given up but we are first in INTs which is huge. I want our route to include SDSU and NDSU sober can see what we're made of. I'm not affraid of an ass whoopin.

ndsubison1
11-16-2016, 05:45 AM
I could see SHSU at 8 if they lose

NorthernBison
11-16-2016, 08:38 AM
If they want to do a true bracket, they would line-up teams accordingly to their ranking. And yes, how they decided where the #9 through #24 get placed is up to them. My post was basically based on how we (USAW) bracket wrestlers at a trials tournament, where nobody is randomly drawn in.

This isn't wrestling so why bother when you already know the selection committee doesn't work that way?

They only seed 8 and the rest are NOT randomly drawn. It becomes about Geography.

The one thing I do know is that we damn well better win on Saturday and it better not be a squeaker.

And yeah, UND will get the 8 seed slated to come to Fargo Dec 9 or 10 if they win on the 3rd.


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Christopher Moen
11-16-2016, 09:04 AM
This isn't wrestling so why bother when you already know the selection committee doesn't work that way?

They only seed 8 and the rest are NOT randomly drawn. It becomes about Geography.

The one thing I do know is that we damn well better win on Saturday and it better not be a squeaker.

And yeah, UND will get the 8 seed slated to come to Fargo Dec 9 or 10 if they win on the 3rd.


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Dude, why so angry?

CAS wanted to know what a bracket looked like based on the new rankings and I provided an example.


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BisonHorns
11-16-2016, 09:54 AM
It would be epic.

Second or third biggest game in FargoDome History. Behind the Georgia Southern Games. Probably Bison's toughest game en route to Frisco.

Was this sarcastic? I sure hope so.

thebootfitter
11-16-2016, 10:42 AM
Something like this is very possible...

Maine at Lehigh vs 1. NDSU
Weber State at SDSU vs 8. UND
St Francis at YSU vs 5. JMU
Illinois State at Chattanooga vs 4. JSU

Charleston Southern at Wofford vs 6. The Citadel
San Diego at Cal Poly vs 3. SHSU
Samford at Villanova vs 7. Richmond
WIU at UCA vs 2. EWU


Autobids: EWU, Charleston Southern, JMU, SDSU, St. Francis, Jacksonville State, Lehigh, San Diego, The Citadel, SHSU

At Large: NDSU,Chattanooga, Richmond, UND, UCA, YSU, Cal Poly, Villanova, Samford, Wofford, Maine, WIU, Illinois State, Weber State


Bubble: Albany, Montana, UNC, UNH, UNI, NCCU/NCAT, Fordham, UT Martin
I don't think so. You've got four MVFC teams on one side. I think the new rules say they won't do that anymore.

tjbison
11-16-2016, 11:13 AM
Sdsu will not beat UNI, Mark it down

bisonaudit
11-16-2016, 11:14 AM
I don't think so. You've got four MVFC teams on one side. I think the new rules say they won't do that anymore.

Flip St. Francis @ YSU with Stamford @ Villanova?

MNLonghorn10
11-16-2016, 11:25 AM
LOL at some sports director from Charleston...



https://twitter.com/SEisbergWCIV/status/798735626556370946
People are so clueless on this level. Guarantee he thought sdsu was the coyotes

NorthernBison
11-16-2016, 11:31 AM
Dude, why so angry?

CAS wanted to know what a bracket looked like based on the new rankings and I provided an example.


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Not angry at all. Just low tolerance for irrelevant chatter. The bracket process doesn't work the way you laid it out making your effort meaningless. You could just as well have used the method the NFL uses. It's just as relevant.

Anyway, I apologize. Chatter away.


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wagsabison
11-16-2016, 12:09 PM
dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.

It's inevitable.

td577
11-16-2016, 12:19 PM
Not angry at all. Just low tolerance for irrelevant chatter. The bracket process doesn't work the way you laid it out making your effort meaningless. You could just as well have used the method the NFL uses. It's just as relevant.

Anyway, I apologize. Chatter away.


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This is Bisonville. There is no known factor of relevancy needed to bring up a thought. As the reader, you just move to the next one.

tjbison
11-16-2016, 12:22 PM
It's inevitable.

not really, they are going to have to beat someone first

Bison Loaf
11-16-2016, 01:20 PM
Well, carp, what are we going to complain about now?



This whole process...............and Bisonville's priceless, and frankly, necessary reaction to it.....................reminds me of a little ditty I heard someplace a loooong time ago. I think it went something like this.....................

"You can't always get what you want,
No, you can't always get what you want,
You can't always get what you want,
But if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need."

:)

Let's Go Bison, need to take care of business!

Bison03
11-16-2016, 01:20 PM
It's funny how some f'hawker fans made fun of our whining that we should be a top two seed based on the resume' of the teams above us; then turn around and whine about themselves being a top 8 seed based on the resume' of the teams above them!!

RedRiver
11-16-2016, 01:25 PM
Sdsu will not beat UNI, Mark it down
If SDSU does beat UNI, they will be seeded ahead of UND, mark it down! The committee will continue their recent work by looking at resumes and ratings such as Sagarin, which show UND needs a lot of help to be seeded, SDSU not so much.

MNLonghorn10
11-16-2016, 01:26 PM
It's funny how some f'hawker fans made fun of our whining that we should be a top two seed based on the resume' of the teams above us; then turn around and whine about themselves being a top 8 seed based on the resume' of the teams above them!!
Is it considered whining when it's common sense?

1993bison
11-16-2016, 01:26 PM
I credit the big corrections to Bison 1660. Jeremy & Jeff kind of grilled the head playoff guy a couple weeks ago. Good job fellas. Really like Bison 1660!

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Or was it Brake? Jeff and Keith sound so much alike I can't tell the difference.

Mr Meaty
11-16-2016, 01:26 PM
It's funny how some f'hawker fans made fun of our whining that we should be a top two seed based on the resume' of the teams above us; then turn around and whine about themselves being a top 8 seed based on the resume' of the teams above them!!

Fhawkers have not played anyone so there resume is nothing .

Professor Chaos
11-16-2016, 01:32 PM
I credit the big corrections to Bison 1660. Jeremy & Jeff kind of grilled the head playoff guy a couple weeks ago. Good job fellas. Really like Bison 1660!

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Or was it Brake? Jeff and Keith sound so much alike I can't tell the difference.
Meh... I think this movement was bound to happen anyway if the committee was honest with themselves. Maybe those interviews gave the committee chair the push he needed to make sure his people were doing due diligence but I think it would've happened regardless. I'd guess that this process of smoothing out the rough edges of their rankings over the last 2-3 weeks of the regular season is no different from how it's always been, this is just the first year we've seen it in action.

All I can say is if they plan to do this again next year I hope they realize that they can't half-ass it with the first ranking again because they're setting themselves up for a boatload of criticism when they have to fix their broken rankings without justification down the line.

tjbison
11-16-2016, 01:36 PM
plus the F hawkers are new to this and don't understand

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kab1one
11-16-2016, 02:02 PM
Was this sarcastic? I sure hope so.

Not at all. As much as this board doesn't want to admit it UND/NDSU is still a big thing and will only become bigger as UND becomes what appears to be more competitive. At the of the NCC days UND handled NDSU on a regular basis. Not saying it will happen this year or in 2019 but that is obviously the fear of this board is the return of the Sioux to a level of NDSU. I don't see much excitement in this years bracket in the playoffs, so the biggest game this year will be the Sioux at the FDD

X-Factor
11-16-2016, 02:08 PM
dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.


I credit the big corrections to Bison 1660. Jeremy & Jeff kind of grilled the head playoff guy a couple weeks ago. Good job fellas. Really like Bison 1660!

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Or was it Brake? Jeff and Keith sound so much alike I can't tell the difference.

Is there a link to that interview? I usually follow gabe's posts but I must have missed it.

bri-dog
11-16-2016, 02:11 PM
Is there a link to that interview? I usually follow gabe's posts but I must have missed it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/morehead-state-ad-and-fcs-committee-chair-brian-hutchinson-nov-4-2016

1993bison
11-16-2016, 02:17 PM
Go to the Bison 1660 ap and scroll back

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RonMexico
11-16-2016, 02:34 PM
dumbest thing ever written on bisonville, just an absolute joke. all you small town ndsu fans disgust me.

Yeah, Playing Butler in the Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl would be so much better.

wagsabison
11-16-2016, 02:40 PM
Yeah, Playing Butler in the Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl would be so much better.

Being involved in the MAC Tuesday night games would be exciting too!

Bison bison
11-16-2016, 02:47 PM
MAC Attack!

El_Chapo
11-16-2016, 03:04 PM
Not at all. As much as this board doesn't want to admit it UND/NDSU is still a big thing and will only become bigger as UND becomes what appears to be more competitive. At the of the NCC days UND handled NDSU on a regular basis. Not saying it will happen this year or in 2019 but that is obviously the fear of this board is the return of the Sioux to a level of NDSU. I don't see much excitement in this years bracket in the playoffs, so the biggest game this year will be the Sioux at the FDD

my gawd SHUT UP

BisonCardinal
11-16-2016, 03:19 PM
Well, carp, what are we going to complain about now?



Klieman's tunnel walk is too slow. Bohl's pace was much better. I get tired of waiting for the team to come out.

Son of a Bison
11-16-2016, 03:37 PM
Is it considered whining when it's common sense?

Are you married?

HerdBot
11-16-2016, 03:40 PM
Klieman's tunnel walk is too slow. Bohl's pace was much better. I get tired of waiting for the team to come out.

:rofl: I don't know why but that is funny stuff!

MrSnuffleupagus
11-16-2016, 03:49 PM
Klieman's tunnel walk is too slow. Bohl's pace was much better. I get tired of waiting for the team to come out.

Its funny that you say this...

We always talk about at the games how the whole countdown would be 1000x better if when we get to 0 the team is coming out onto the field. It feels so weird counting down to zero, cheering really loud...then it tapers down....then somewhat loud again when they finally make it out. Its just...odd.

Bison4x
11-16-2016, 04:02 PM
We are top 10 against the run yardage wise and I think in the 90s for passing yards given up but we are first in INTs which is huge. I want our route to include SDSU and NDSU sober can see what we're made of. I'm not affraid of an ass whoopin.

Please don't refer to UN_ as "we" and "our" on the Bison Forum. Makes me think of being a UN_ fan and my wiener wants to turn inside out.

X-Factor
11-16-2016, 04:40 PM
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/morehead-state-ad-and-fcs-committee-chair-brian-hutchinson-nov-4-2016

Hahaha. Wow. Good job 1660. They did a good job of slowly moving the FCS chairman to understand the shortcomings.

Bisonwinagn
11-16-2016, 06:45 PM
So there is still potential NDSU could face USD, SDSU, and UND in the next three games before they face anyone outside the region.

southcliffbison
11-16-2016, 09:26 PM
so there is still potential ndsu could face usd, sdsu, and und in the next three games before they face anyone outside the region.

take that !!!!! Regionalization

ndsubison1
11-16-2016, 10:21 PM
I thought the complaint was about teams from same conference, not regional?

MNLonghorn10
11-16-2016, 11:06 PM
Are you married?

Yea and Im not into dudes.

scottietohottie
11-16-2016, 11:19 PM
Yea and Im not into dudes.

you trump voting white racist son of a!

X-Factor
11-17-2016, 12:38 AM
you trump voting uneducated old white racist son of a!

Fixed it for ya

MNLonghorn10
11-17-2016, 01:37 AM
wondered over to Katfans and see TAB struck up a convo with those mouth breathers.

I dont think I can finish the final 12 pages at 6 posts a page. Just too much at once.

MAKBison
11-17-2016, 01:41 AM
Fixed it for ya

Dammit and now I gotta go back to my scream circle and play with my comfort dog:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepa lm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepa lm::(:(:(:(:(:( ....DDP!:offtopic::offtopic::offtopic::offtopic::o fftopic::offtopic:

MAKBison
11-17-2016, 01:44 AM
Its funny that you say this...

We always talk about at the games how the whole countdown would be 1000x better if when we get to 0 the team is coming out onto the field. It feels so weird counting down to zero, cheering really loud...then it tapers down....then somewhat loud again when they finally make it out. Its just...odd.

Your are not listining to the tune, he comes out at the same spot in the song...geeesshhh

Son of a Bison
11-17-2016, 01:58 AM
Yea and Im not into dudes.

I was going to offer my mother in law to answer your question. That is why I asked. She likes the Longhorns.

DIBISON
11-17-2016, 02:55 AM
Copied from another blog, liked it so much. Much more goes into the final seeding's than just the record of a team.

NDSU will stay one if they win over USD. No way EWU loses to Portland so they will be two. That’s they way it should be. The movement will be at the bottom. If UCA loses they are out and either SDSU or UND are in at 8.
If SDSU beats UNI and UCA loses I expect SDSU to jump UND for the 8 seed with a far better resume and SOS. A UCA win likely means both SHSU and UCA get a seed with UND and SDSU, as 9 and 10 playing in round one with a trip to Fargo on the line. Regionalization still exists.

1993bison
11-17-2016, 03:13 AM
Just so much egg on the face for the committee members it's laughable. At least it looks like they will get it right for the most part.

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LITTLEGUYSINGREEN
11-17-2016, 03:27 AM
What the team really needs to do is just win and let the rest take care of itself. No guarantee we beat USD, especially without a passing game. We lose to USD and all eleven pages of this thread have been a colossal waste of time.

ndsubison1
11-17-2016, 04:00 AM
Watch Citadel and UCA win this weekend. Seems like theres always a little chaos last weekend

GOBISON123
11-17-2016, 01:09 PM
Somebody from the selection committee was on Bison1660 few weeks ago when the first rankings came out. The committee member said they were not impressed by how Bison won against the EW Eagles.

I think the committee is forgetting the fact that EW Eagles needed some trick plays to win that game, off side kick etc. Also against UNI Panthers the Eagles won because of last second trick play where the lineup as if they were going to kick a field goal and then score a TD.

I am surprised nobody's giving these committee members a earful about this when they rib the Bison for playing close games.

Bison03
11-17-2016, 01:14 PM
What the team really needs to do is just win and let the rest take care of itself. No guarantee we beat USD, especially without a passing game. We lose to USD and all eleven pages of this thread have been a colossal waste of time.

Yeah, we have never won this year having bad passing games......

Charleston Southern: 194 - WIN
Iowa: 197 - WIN
Missouri St: 159 - WIN
W Illinois: 160 - WIN
UNI: 118 - WIN
Youngstown: 89 - WIN
Indiana St: 73 -WIN

IzzyFlexion
11-17-2016, 01:20 PM
Yeah, we have never won this year having bad passing games......

Charleston Southern: 194 - WIN
Iowa: 197 - WIN
Missouri St: 159 - WIN
W Illinois: 160 - WIN
UNI: 118 - WIN
Youngstown: 89 - WIN
Indiana St: 73 -WIN


You must have made an error...............
That batch of numbers indicates a steady decline.

Bisonator98
11-17-2016, 02:52 PM
Somebody from the selection committee was on Bison1660 few weeks ago when the first rankings came out. The committee member said they were not impressed by how Bison won against the EW Eagles.

I think the committee is forgetting the fact that EW Eagles needed some trick plays to win that game, off side kick etc. Also against UNI Panthers the Eagles won because of last second trick play where the lineup as if they were going to kick a field goal and then score a TD.

I am surprised nobody's giving these committee members a earful about this when they rib the Bison for playing close games.

More great analysis from you. Keep up the great work.:facepalm:

BTW have broken down 30 hours of film on USD and decided we are doomed yet?

89MTBISON
11-17-2016, 04:03 PM
Here is an interesting look at bracket scenarios from nobowls.
http://nobowls.com/#scenarios

TransAmBison
11-17-2016, 04:22 PM
Lakes on 1660 right now...

tolnabison
11-17-2016, 04:22 PM
Interesting article on STATS FCS football Craig Haley did with the chairman of the selection commitee, Brian Hutchinson. Not sure if it will actually happen, but it deals with regionalization.
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20161117104721004269704

56BISON73
11-17-2016, 04:28 PM
Lakes on 1660 right now...

When are we moving up? FBS? :biggrin:

TransAmBison
11-17-2016, 04:30 PM
When are we moving up? FBS? :biggrin:It was a good call as usual. He vented about the possible/likely regionalization for the playoffs. It is a legit gripe...just too bad it is too costly.

wagsabison
11-18-2016, 12:41 PM
It was a good call as usual. He vented about the possible/likely regionalization for the playoffs. It is a legit gripe...just too bad it is too costly.

He actually had a pretty good phone call. Not as extreme as I thought it would be.

El_Chapo
11-18-2016, 01:25 PM
It was a good call as usual. He vented about the possible/likely regionalization for the playoffs. It is a legit gripe...just too bad it is too costly.

Yea its D2 all over again. Appy St, Georgia Southern Liberty and now Coastal Carolina have moved up.

having the possibility of a bracket of NDSU vs winner of SDSU/und is so D2 I cant even fathom it.. what a colossal waste of the last 5-6 years, I cant believe we havent PARLAYED this run into something!

Vermillion , Terra Haute, Macomb , grand forks, brookings ARE NOT THE TOWNS FARGO SHOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH!

ndsubison1
11-18-2016, 02:01 PM
Lakes on 1660 right now...

heard him on the podcast. Said everything other than "Lets Go FBS" haha. He's good on the radio.

2011BisonAlumni
11-18-2016, 02:55 PM
Yea its D2 all over again. Appy St, Georgia Southern Liberty and not Coastal Carolina have moved up.

You know what's ironic? You say how much you want to move, but yet the following are lacking on your part a.) being a member of teammakers (just looked at the member list and your name is not on there) and b.) being a tax payer in the state of North Dakota.

All talk, no action.

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 03:37 PM
You know what's ironic? You say how much you want to move, but yet the following are lacking on your part a.) being a member of teammakers (just looked at the member list and your name is not on there) and b.) being a tax payer in the state of North Dakota.

All talk, no action.
You need to be a resident of the state of North Dakota to pimp fbs?



(Lulz at taking the time to look him up on the team makers list)

Professor Chaos
11-18-2016, 03:44 PM
Of course El Chapo isn't a Teammaker... he's under arrest and had all his assets seized by the Mexican government.

Don't worry though... I suspect he's planning his escape as we speak!

BYZEN
11-18-2016, 04:18 PM
Of course El Chapo isn't a Teammaker... he's under arrest and had all his assets seized by the Mexican government.

Don't worry though... I suspect he's planning his escape as we speak!


http://www.cartoonstudio.co.uk/images/00MidweekMotivators/HavingBadDay.jpg

Christopher Moen
11-18-2016, 04:57 PM
You know what's ironic? You say how much you want to move, but yet the following are lacking on your part a.) being a member of teammakers (just looked at the member list and your name is not on there) and b.) being a tax payer in the state of North Dakota.

All talk, no action.

No, what's ironic is naming teams that moved up that will become irrelevant in the FBS because they will be playing in irrelevant conferences and their biggest aspirations is to play in irrelevant Bowl Games.

No need to be envious of G5 teams right now.

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:00 PM
No, what's ironic is naming teams that moved up that will become irrelevant in the FBS because they will be playing in irrelevant conferences and their biggest aspirations is to play in irrelevant Bowl Games.

No need to be envious of G5 teams right now.

whats more ironic is that FCS teams & games are already irrelevant so lets stay status quo

VanClubPres
11-18-2016, 06:01 PM
No, what's ironic is naming teams that moved up that will become irrelevant in the FBS because they will be playing in irrelevant conferences and their biggest aspirations is to play in irrelevant Bowl Games.

No need to be envious of G5 teams right now.

Personally I think that rain on your wedding day, it's a free ride when you already paid, it's the good advice that you just didn't take. But who would've thought, it figures.

Christopher Moen
11-18-2016, 06:04 PM
whats more ironic is that FCS teams & games are already irrelevant so lets stay status quo

You find Division I National Championship Titles irrelevant? I don't. Until the G5 figures out they're the odd man out (based on my conversation with people from the Mountain West, they're a bit clueless or in denial right now), no reason to do anything.

Vet70
11-18-2016, 06:09 PM
Here we go again. :facepalm:

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:11 PM
You find Division I National Championship Titles irrelevant? I don't. Until the G5 figures out they're the odd man out (based on my conversation with people from the Mountain West, they're a bit clueless or in denial right now), no reason to do anything.
They are relevant to a degree. But when youre on your way to 6 in a row, nation wide talking heads will ask why this team isn't moving up or considering it. It also doesnt change the fact that a prestigious program like NDSU is currently in the same brackets as colleges like NC A&T, Samford, San Diego & St Francis.

Western Michigan is currently rolling, and will be playing in a post New Years day bowl game. You dont think NDSU could pull that off? I know i know conference invites, politics, money, whatever has to go the right way.

I just want NDSU's ass covered at the right time and not left on the same shoreline as San Diego, St Francis, Samford and NC A&T. I'll spare you from writing what I know what you are going to write: Matt Larsen, PDB and others are doing whats best for NDSU and will make the move when the timing is right since this landscape is always changing.

Christopher Moen
11-18-2016, 06:15 PM
They are relevant to a degree. But when youre on your way to 6 in a row, nation wide talking heads will ask why this team isn't moving up or considering it. It also doesnt change the fact that a prestigious program like NDSU is currently in the same brackets as colleges like NC A&T, Samford, San Diego & St Francis.

Western Michigan is currently rolling, and will be playing in a post New Years day bowl game. You dont think NDSU could pull that off? I know i know conference invites, politics, money, whatever has to go the right way.

I just want NDSU's ass covered at the right time and not left on the same shoreline as San Diego, St Francis, Samford and NC A&T. I'll spare you from writing what I know what you are going to write: Matt Larsen, PDB and others are doing whats best for NDSU and will make the move when the timing is right since this landscape is always changing.

Western Michigan isn't going to be playing in any Dr. Pepper National Championship Game no matter how many games they win as long as they are in the MAC. Playing in a New Years Day bowl is nice, but nothing more than a participation prize. The important games all belong to the P5. There's a reason why they only allow four teams in the CFP.

Bison03
11-18-2016, 06:17 PM
I'd rather watch us try and win a national championship then win the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. Thats what this thread is about. Why does every thread drift to moving up to FBS talk. Lets stay focused. Win and get the #1 seed and the road to Frisco goes through Fargo once again.

bisonaudit
11-18-2016, 06:18 PM
As of the committee's last work, Western Michigan wouldn't be in a New Year's Six Bowl. Boise State would.

Bison bison
11-18-2016, 06:22 PM
A bowl of buffalo wild wings sounds pretty damn good right now.

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:23 PM
Western Michigan isn't going to be playing in any Dr. Pepper National Championship Game no matter how many games they win as long as they are in the MAC. Playing in a New Years Day bowl is nice, but nothing more than a participation prize. The important games all belong to the P5. There's a reason why they only allow four teams in the CFP.
Houston isn't p5. WMU will get their shot at a top 10 team in a nationally televised bowl game.

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:24 PM
As of the committee's last work, Western Michigan wouldn't be in a New Year's Six Bowl. Boise State would.

Interesting. We'll see what happens after 2 more weeks of stuff + conference championships

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:25 PM
I'd rather watch us try and win a national championship then win the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl. Thats what this thread is about. Why does every thread drift to moving up to FBS talk. Lets stay focused. Win and get the #1 seed and the road to Frisco goes through Fargo once again.

Blame trans am for quoting El Chapos radio interview and spitting the truths.

Just because youre content with 11 straight trips to Frisco and national championships doesnt mean everybody else is.

2011BisonAlumni
11-18-2016, 06:28 PM
You need to be a resident of the state of North Dakota to pimp fbs?



(Lulz at taking the time to look him up on the team makers list)

Nope but if you want NDSU to go FBS, I fully expect you to put your money where your mouth is. If you can't fork over $100 a year to be a team maker or you aren't a tax paying resident in ND, you have no business saying that NDSU should go FBS.

2011BisonAlumni
11-18-2016, 06:30 PM
Blame trans am for quoting El Chapos radio interview and spitting the truths.

Just because youre content with 11 straight trips to Frisco and national championships doesnt mean everybody else is.

What have you done to make it happen? How much money do you contribute annually to teammakers? Do you want the taxpayers in ND to foot the bill just so you can see FBS football?

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:31 PM
Nope but if you want NDSU to go FBS, I fully expect you to put your money where your mouth is. If you can't fork over $100 a year to be a team maker or you aren't a tax paying resident in ND, you have no business saying that NDSU should go FBS.

You just contradicted yourself with your answer. lmfao

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:33 PM
What have you done to make it happen? How much money do you contribute annually to teammakers? Do you want the taxpayers in ND to foot the bill just so you can see FBS football?

So the hypothetical scenario of a rube pining for greener pastures and making it work is what youre going with? Im not employed by NDSU. Im not an athletic director, AD general in waiting, team makers president whatever.

My voice is minimal. doesn't mean I can't voice my opinion.

oh wait, I dont pay taxes to ND.

El_Chapo
11-18-2016, 06:39 PM
actually Teammakers FORCED ME TO JOIN THEM since im a basketball season ticket holder & I told them I didnt want my name on the list.

(great move by D2 pat simmers... so he can flap his arms & say OH LOOK WE'VE INCREASED TEAMMAKERS By 10,000 members by holding them hostage and forcing them to donate!) what a joke.

ps- Im guessing over the last 20 years, i've spent $20,000 on ndsu tickets, donations, apparel, etc... and giving them $200k in free advertising & exposure.

TransAmBison
11-18-2016, 06:43 PM
So the hypothetical scenario of a rube pining for greener pastures and making it work is what youre going with? Im not employed by NDSU. Im not an athletic director, AD general in waiting, team makers president whatever.

My voice is minimal. doesn't mean I can't voice my opinion.

oh wait, I dont pay taxes to ND.I was promised a wall.

2011BisonAlumni
11-18-2016, 06:43 PM
You just contradicted yourself with your answer. lmfao

I said OR....I don't care if you are a team maker so long as you contribute to the funding of NDSU via your tax dollar and are prepared to accept a greater burden or accept the loss in state funding.

Bisonwinagn
11-18-2016, 06:44 PM
What have you done to make it happen? How much money do you contribute annually to teammakers? Do you want the taxpayers in ND to foot the bill just so you can see FBS football?

What the hell does the state of ND and tax money have to do with NDSU?

NorthernBison
11-18-2016, 06:44 PM
The future for Bowl Games outside of the playoff includes top NFL prospects bailing out after the regular season ends.

There is ZERO reason to risk millions by playing in an exhibition game.


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2011BisonAlumni
11-18-2016, 06:45 PM
So the hypothetical scenario of a rube pining for greener pastures and making it work is what youre going with? Im not employed by NDSU. Im not an athletic director, AD general in waiting, team makers president whatever.

My voice is minimal. doesn't mean I can't voice my opinion.

oh wait, I dont pay taxes to ND.

I just want you to put your money where your mouth is. If you want it contribute something for it. In the meantime, be happy with FCS football because unless there is a substantial rise in donations to teammakers, the move isn't going to happen.

No wonder you are from Minnesota. You want something and expect someone else to pay for it.

2011BisonAlumni
11-18-2016, 06:48 PM
What the hell does the state of ND and tax money have to do with NDSU?

If you have to ask that question boy I feel sorry for you.

TransAmBison
11-18-2016, 06:51 PM
I have to say, I was not a fan of the first seeding the committee gave. Now...I'm glad they did it that way. The SHSU fans were given such false hope it is quite comical. They have a few good fans on that board...but they got a number of winners on their board. Good times.

Vet70
11-18-2016, 06:54 PM
Does anyone have any ideas, information, speculation or discussion about the FCS Selection Committee? I thought I was on the right thread.

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:56 PM
I said OR....I don't care if you are a team maker so long as you contribute to the funding of NDSU via your tax dollar and are prepared to accept a greater burden or accept the loss in state funding.
I just ate at culvers on 25th St for lunch today. Does that count?

Vet70
11-18-2016, 06:56 PM
I have to say, I was not a fan of the first seeding the committee gave. Now...I'm glad they did it that way. The SHSU fans were given such false hope it is quite comical. They have a few good fans on that board...but they got a number of winners on their board. Good times.

Too late. You are responsible for this mess.

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 06:57 PM
I just want you to put your money where your mouth is. If you want it contribute something for it. In the meantime, be happy with FCS football because unless there is a substantial rise in donations to teammakers, the move isn't going to happen.

No wonder you are from Minnesota. You want something and expect someone else to pay for it.
Let it out melvin. Remind us what state actually has a surplus and which one tapped out its rainy day fund...

2011BisonAlumni
11-18-2016, 07:02 PM
Let it out melvin. Remind us what state actually has a surplus and which one tapped out its rainy day fund...

When is the last time you really took a look at ND's financial picture? Ya man, let's cut social services positions but fund an FBS football program.

You are a non contributor financially to NDSU athletics. Put your money where your mouth is and then let's talk FBS. Until then feel free to keep on living in fantasy land because the State of North Dakota is NEVER going to fund NDSU in the level needed to have an FBS football team, have an FBS quality stadium or pay the coaching staff FBS level salaries.

bisonaudit
11-18-2016, 07:07 PM
Does anyone have any ideas, information, speculation or discussion about the FCS Selection Committee? I thought I was on the right thread.

They completely botched the early roll out of their top 10 and its damaged their credibility and that of the tournament they're responsible for.

Bisonator98
11-18-2016, 07:09 PM
I have to say, I was not a fan of the first seeding the committee gave. Now...I'm glad they did it that way. The SHSU fans were given such false hope it is quite comical. They have a few good fans on that board...but they got a number of winners on their board. Good times.

What's really funny is SHSU wasn't even moved from their spot last week but their fans are the ones who are all butt hurt. :rofl:

TransAmBison
11-18-2016, 07:11 PM
What's really funny is SHSU wasn't even moved from their spot last week but their fans are the ones who are all butt hurt. :rofl:But undefeated! Best was when one guy when asked for what their quality wins were...he stated Lamar and Nichols. You just can't make this stuff up! :rofl:

Vet70
11-18-2016, 07:13 PM
They completely botched the early roll out of their top 10 and its damaged their credibility and that of the tournament they're responsible for.

I really questioned the early roll out of the ratings. If their goal was to create interest, controversy or whatever, their ineptitude certainly accomplished that. That aside, now that we have a number one ranking we need to keep the ball rolling.

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 07:14 PM
When is the last time you really took a look at ND's financial picture? Ya man, let's cut social services positions but fund an FBS football program.

You are a non contributor financially to NDSU athletics. Put your money where your mouth is and then let's talk FBS. Until then feel free to keep on living in fantasy land because the State of North Dakota is NEVER going to fund NDSU in the level needed to have an FBS football team, have an FBS quality stadium or pay the coaching staff FBS level salaries.
Oh so are you going to come peel my team makers sticker off of my truck? Pay me back my dues?

Vet70
11-18-2016, 07:16 PM
But undefeated! Best was when one guy when asked for what their quality wins were...he stated Lamar and Nichols. You just can't make this stuff up! :rofl:

Another way to look at it is he was honest---those probably are their quality wins. :rofl:

2011BisonAlumni
11-18-2016, 07:22 PM
Oh so are you going to come peel my team makers sticker off of my truck? Pay me back my dues?

Nope I wouldn't.

Are you prepared to quadrupole your contribution to fund FBS? I hope so.

I want NDSU to go FBS as much as you do. I contribute what I can to NDSU. The money just is not there and the state isn't willing. It's not going to happen.

Bisonator98
11-18-2016, 07:27 PM
But undefeated! Best was when one guy when asked for what their quality wins were...he stated Lamar and Nichols. You just can't make this stuff up! :rofl:

The Citadel is undefeated too and they actually have a better SOS then sammy. Sammy fans are just butt hurt that they have nothing to defend that weak schedule they put together. I really hope UCA shuts them up this weekend but I doubt it will happen.

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 07:38 PM
Nope I wouldn't.

Are you prepared to quadrupole your contribution to fund FBS? I hope so.

I want NDSU to go FBS as much as you do. I contribute what I can to NDSU. The money just is not there and the state isn't willing. It's not going to happen.
It isn't much. It's in fact what they tack onto my season tickets lulz. If I heard ndsu was in the planning stages at least of moving up, I'd contribute more in a heartbeat

MNLonghorn10
11-18-2016, 07:40 PM
The Citadel is undefeated too and they actually have a better SOS then sammy. Sammy fans are just butt hurt that they have nothing to defend that weak schedule they put together. I really hope UCA shuts them up this weekend but I doubt it will happen.
Citadel hasn't done what sam has in the playoffs though. Like lose to ndsu by an average of 3 tds a game...but they hung tough in the first half and if passes x,y,z would've been completed...we're talking way different outcomes!

Christopher Moen
11-18-2016, 07:42 PM
Someone needs to remind SHSU about McNeese from last year. Same conference, also had their FBS game (LSU) cancelled, also were undefeated and ended up seeded fourth. Their final result? Lost in the second round to SHSU.

Bisonator98
11-18-2016, 07:52 PM
Citadel hasn't done what sam has in the playoffs though. Like lose to ndsu by an average of 3 tds a game...but they hung tough in the first half and if passes x,y,z would've been completed...we're talking way different outcomes!

They do have those runner-up shirts going for them, which is nice! :rofl:

El_Chapo
11-18-2016, 07:58 PM
When is the last time you really took a look at ND's financial picture? Ya man, let's cut social services positions but fund an FBS football program.

You are a non contributor financially to NDSU athletics. Put your money where your mouth is and then let's talk FBS. Until then feel free to keep on living in fantasy land because the State of North Dakota is NEVER going to fund NDSU in the level needed to have an FBS football team, have an FBS quality stadium or pay the coaching staff FBS level salaries.

YES so get your butts out there, find 4 big stadium donors at $25 mill., raise the other $50 mill voila, $150 mil 42,000 seat outdoor stadium OWNED BY NDSU and all REVENUE going to NDSU!
screw the state! NDSU is 50/50 ND/MN students last time I checked!

Bison Loaf
11-18-2016, 08:36 PM
Ya know...........there IS one measure in which I can see SHSU getting deference from the committee, but I don't know that they look at it this way and it is not one of their "official" criteria.

But first, let me set the stage. As much as we talk about how we hate regional pairings (and I most certainly do), the committee probably doesn't know "what all the fuss is about" when this phenomenon comes to NDSU. They have literally thrown the "kitchen sink" of FCS football at the Bison in this Championship run (although, admittedly, the committee can only "set the table", but teams must actually win to get a crack at NDSU). Get this though..........in an astounding display of dynastic power in the last 5 years of FCS playoffs, NDSU has beaten 15 different teams/programs in the 20 playoff games (and 5 titles) it has won!!

As you might expect, nobody has come even close to beating the breadth of teams in the playoffs as NDSU has over the last 5 years. New Hampshire, Jacksonville State, Eastern Washington and Illinois State all fall in far behind the Bison with 5 different teams/programs beat in the playoffs over that time. Montana and UNI are next with 4 different teams/programs beat. SDSU is among a group of 5 teams that have beaten 3 different programs over that time.

But wait a minute!! There is another program that comes into the picture here. That's right. We circle back to my original topic of Sam Houston State. Sammy, in it's 17 playoff games in the last 5 seasons, has beaten 11 different teams/programs............by far a wider breadth of playoff victories than any other program in the nation, except NDSU.

They may not have the strength of schedule this year, nor in the past. But once they get there, and except for losing to NDSU three times (no shame in that! :)), they've mostly brought the goods.

Bison03
11-18-2016, 09:05 PM
Sam Houston has been the best playoff team in the past 5 years not named NDSU. They play in a cupcake conference. Ut they do kick it in come December.

bisonaudit
11-18-2016, 09:12 PM
The fuss about regionalization has somewhat less to do specifically with NDSU and somewhat more to do with putting every team from the strongest conference in the country in the same half of the bracket.

bisonaudit
11-18-2016, 09:17 PM
Sam Houston has been the best playoff team in the past 5 years not named NDSU. They play in a cupcake conference. Ut they do kick it in come December.

The only other team that's even been in the field each of the last 5 seasons is New Hampshire.

Christopher Moen
11-18-2016, 09:29 PM
Looking at NDSU's first game playoff games during the championship streak:

2011: Beat JMU 26-14.
2012: Beat SDSU 28-3. Rematch of a game played three weeks prior.
2013: Beat Furman 38-7. I believe this was the game that got played prior to the announcement of Bohl leaving.
2014: Beat SDSU 27-24. Rematch of a game played five weeks prior.
2015: Beat Montana 37-6. Rematch of FCS Kick-off game played earlier in the season.

Other rematches played:
2012: Beat GSU and SHSU in the SF and Championship Game respectively for the second year in a row.
2014: Beat Coastal Carolina for the second year in a row in a QF game. Also beat SHSU in the SF game.
2015: Beat Northern Iowa in the QF game. A rematch from a game played two month earlier.

Outside of playing SDSU and UNI, regionalization hasn't been much of an issue for NDSU. However, the Bison do seem to get stuck in the tougher side of the bracket being that their side has won the National Championship the past six years.

FCS Nation
11-19-2016, 01:04 AM
The Citadel is undefeated too and they actually have a better SOS then sammy. Sammy fans are just butt hurt that they have nothing to defend that weak schedule they put together. I really hope UCA shuts them up this weekend but I doubt it will happen.

The Citadel has a better SOS than Jacksonville State too and plays in what Mr. Massey and Mr. Sagarin say is the 2nd toughest conference in the FCS...

bisonfanette
11-19-2016, 01:45 AM
No wonder you are from Minnesota. You want something and expect someone else to pay for it.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, partner!
You were doing just fine until you played the Minnesota card!
I PAY for IT! :biggrin: (Game day program page 80!) Carry on!!!
(Our athletic budget is approximately 20 million. Not even close to what it takes for FBS.)
Now back to your regular scheduled program.

kab1one
11-19-2016, 03:29 AM
why is regionalization an issue? Last year we played one MVFC team in the playoffs, the rest got beat. So non issue. This year UND and MVFC could be played. One conference play off and one team that is local. Is this regionallization.

BisonHorns
11-19-2016, 11:07 AM
If you ask me the regionalization could be a gift if we get an easy game against Un_ but it would stink if we have to grind out another close game with SDSU. Best scenario for my likings would be bringing in teams from as far away as possible, the ones I would never get to see on person otherwise.

Son of a Bison
11-19-2016, 12:57 PM
Every week the rankings have changed. How sure are we that if we win we are still number 1? The committee contradicted themselves repeatedly with their current ranking and could screw this up easily.

bisonaudit
11-19-2016, 02:52 PM
Every week the rankings have changed. How sure are we that if we win we are still number 1? The committee contradicted themselves repeatedly with their current ranking and could screw this up easily.

Yep. No idea where things will actually end up no matter what happens today.

MNLonghorn10
11-19-2016, 03:24 PM
Without any unsuspected losses, things will be status quo as they currently are

Bison03
11-19-2016, 03:31 PM
Regionalization sucks because it does not evenly distribute the teams. If we are the 1 seed, we should be playing the winner of the 15 vs 16 best non-seeded teams, when we could see SDSU or UND who will be just missing out of a seed at 9 or 10. I get that they dont rank outside the top 8, but it seems like this happens a lot. It sucks for that higer ranked te to have to go play the 1 seed too. 2012 had a top ranked Jacks team coming to Fargo.

NDSUstudent
11-19-2016, 03:39 PM
Without any unsuspected losses, things will be status quo as they currently are

Or unsuspected wins in the case of The Citadel.

ZHerd
11-19-2016, 03:44 PM
Just for the unrealistic fun of it, what changes would Chatty beating Bama tonight lead to?

Vet70
11-19-2016, 03:47 PM
Just for the unrealistic fun of it, what changes would Chatty beating Bama tonight lead to?

Hell freezing over.

semobison
11-19-2016, 10:54 PM
Sammy is beating UCA 59-16. How far will they move up?

wagsabison
11-19-2016, 11:04 PM
Sammy is beating UCA 59-16. How far will they move up?

I have no doubt Sammy is a good team but it's not like UCA is great anyway despite their ranking. Regardless Sam would be a tough matchup for this team

Bison Bridge Guy
11-19-2016, 11:22 PM
Who replaces Richmond in the top 10 a after their loss today?

Vet70
11-19-2016, 11:41 PM
Just for the unrealistic fun of it, what changes would Chatty beating Bama tonight lead to?


Hell freezing over.

Hell hasn't frozen over yet, but there is a little frost. MOCS 3, BAMA 0 after one.

EndZoneQB
11-19-2016, 11:44 PM
Who replaces Richmond in the top 10 a after their loss today?

Top 10 matters nothing after today. UND and SDSU are basically BOTH primed for a seed, if SDSU wins. That's what that means.

ZHerd
11-20-2016, 12:18 AM
Hell hasn't frozen over yet, but there is a little frost. MOCS 3, BAMA 0 after one.

Could get out of hand at any time but Chatty is fighting, and playing a pretty good half of football.

wagsabison
11-20-2016, 12:19 AM
They muffed a punt inside the 10 and Alabama scored 7 easy


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ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 12:26 AM
Top 10 matters nothing after today. UND and SDSU are basically BOTH primed for a seed, if SDSU wins. That's what that means.

UCA could still be seeded

ZHerd
11-20-2016, 12:28 AM
They muffed a punt inside the 10 and Alabama scored 7 easy


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Even with that mistake Alabama only up 14-3 at halftime. Pretty impressive imo. Chatty played a better first half than most SEC team do against Bama

Bisonwinagn
11-20-2016, 12:29 AM
Should be SDSU 7 and UND 8 to avoid conference matchups. Easy decision in my mind if NDSU is 1 and EWU is 2.

wagsabison
11-20-2016, 12:37 AM
Should be SDSU 7 and UND 8 to avoid conference matchups. Easy decision in my mind if NDSU is 1 and EWU is 2.

Could kind of see that but then you have a 3-loss team at 7... I dunno.


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Gully
11-20-2016, 12:47 AM
Could kind of see that but then you have a 3-loss team at 7... I dunno.


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3 loss but also MVFC co-champs so........

wagsabison
11-20-2016, 12:50 AM
3 loss but also MVFC co-champs so........

True and as we all know it's pretty much a toss up on what they decide. They'll probably really reward SHSU on their victory today.


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ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 01:04 AM
1. Ndsu
2. EWU
3. SHSU
4. JSU
5. JMU
6. Citadel
7. UND
8. SDSU

td577
11-20-2016, 01:18 AM
1. Ndsu
2. EWU
3. SHSU
4. JSU
5. JMU
6. Citadel
7. UND
8. SDSU

I could see the committee saying un_ is a newcomer and flip your 7 and 8 around. That would be their rationale to themselves, anyways.

Wally
11-20-2016, 01:21 AM
I could see the committee saying un_ is a newcomer and flip your 7 and 8 around. That would be their rationale to themselves, anyways.

You could avoid conference matchups in the quarters as well. Both und and sdsu are bus rides, so why not? Sdsu is better than und anyway.

DIBISON
11-20-2016, 01:30 AM
IMO there is no doubt now that SDSU will be seeded higher than UND. After W/L record the Jacks are far superior in SOS, Sagarin and resume. MVFC Champ is also worth more than BSC Champ based on conference rank. Whether Bison fans like it or not the Jacks have a very impressive win today which will still be remembered by the committee members tonight. It's a no brainer to rank SDSU ahead of UND.

I'd much rather have UND coming to Fargo in the quarterfinals than SDSU.

GRAFTONBISON
11-20-2016, 01:34 AM
IMO there is no doubt now that SDSU will be seeded higher than UND. After W/L record the Jacks are far superior in SOS, Sagarin and resume. MVFC Champ is also worth more than BSC Champ based on conference rank. Whether Bison fans like it or not the Jacks have a very impressive win today which will still be remembered by the committee members tonight. It's a no brainer to rank SDSU ahead of UND.

I'd much rather have UND coming to Fargo in the quarterfinals than SDSU.

So much this

wagsabison
11-20-2016, 01:35 AM
You could avoid conference matchups in the quarters as well. Both und and sdsu are bus rides, so why not? Sdsu is better than und anyway.

SDSU has more of the qualities of a team that can hurt us (they already have). UND doesn't scare me but I think they'd keep it close. They also have pulled out a lot of games late. We seem to enjoy giving teams a chance in the 4th quarter


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td577
11-20-2016, 01:38 AM
IMO there is no doubt now that SDSU will be seeded higher than UND. After W/L record the Jacks are far superior in SOS, Sagarin and resume. MVFC Champ is also worth more than BSC Champ based on conference rank. Whether Bison fans like it or not the Jacks have a very impressive win today which will still be remembered by the committee members tonight. It's a no brainer to rank SDSU ahead of UND.

I'd much rather have UND coming to Fargo in the quarterfinals than SDSU.

For anyone who thinks logically, you are spot on. We are talking about the committee here.

WFBisonFan
11-20-2016, 01:49 AM
With SDSU's impressive win today...does UND have a shot at even being #8? If not, then they would more than likely host a 1st round game, correct? (that is if they bid high enough)

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 02:17 AM
With SDSU's impressive win today...does UND have a shot at even being #8? If not, then they would more than likely host a 1st round game, correct? (that is if they bid high enough)

Its going to be

NDSU 1
EWU 2
SHSU 3
JSU 4
JMU 5
Citadel 6
SDSU 7
UND 8

ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 02:28 AM
IMO there is no doubt now that SDSU will be seeded higher than UND. After W/L record the Jacks are far superior in SOS, Sagarin and resume. MVFC Champ is also worth more than BSC Champ based on conference rank. Whether Bison fans like it or not the Jacks have a very impressive win today which will still be remembered by the committee members tonight. It's a no brainer to rank SDSU ahead of UND.

I'd much rather have UND coming to Fargo in the quarterfinals than SDSU.

I see Sdsu at 8 with Und having less losses and undefeated in conference

Bison Bridge Guy
11-20-2016, 02:29 AM
Its going to be

NDSU 1
EWU 2
SHSU 3
JSU 4
JMU 5
Citadel 6
SDSU 7
UND 8
Why do you think SHSU moves up?

ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 02:31 AM
You could avoid conference matchups in the quarters as well. Both und and sdsu are bus rides, so why not? Sdsu is better than und anyway.

They don't seed based on conference matchups

ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 02:33 AM
With SDSU's impressive win today...does UND have a shot at even being #8? If not, then they would more than likely host a 1st round game, correct? (that is if they bid high enough)

Und is going to be seeded

MAKBison
11-20-2016, 02:36 AM
Its going to be

NDSU 1
EWU 2
SHSU 3
JSU 4
JMU 5
Citadel 6
SDSU 7
UND 8

Hope so..........

Wally
11-20-2016, 02:37 AM
They don't seed based on conference matchups

I know. That's why I said sdsu is better than und anyway

MNLonghorn10
11-20-2016, 02:42 AM
Why do you think SHSU moves up?

the battle of shit schedules besides @ lsu for jsu...shsu did dismantle central arkansas, the only challenger for either schedule.


you could flip a coin i suppose

wagsabison
11-20-2016, 02:46 AM
the battle of shit schedules besides @ lsu for jsu...shsu did dismantle central arkansas, the only challenger for either schedule.


you could flip a coin i suppose
Really don't know how good UCA really was either. Makes it kind of tough to guess who's better than who.

Professor Chaos
11-20-2016, 02:49 AM
JMU should be above both SHSU and JSU. I'd argue that The Citadel should be above JSU also.

What it should be:

1) NDSU
2) EWU
3) JMU
4) SHSU
5) The Citadel
6) JSU
7) SDSU
8) UND

Then again, JSU's AD is on the selection committee...

NDSU1980
11-20-2016, 02:53 AM
Und is going to be seededThey might be seeded now, but I suspect they get planted in their first and only playoff game.

RonMexico
11-20-2016, 02:56 AM
I have no faith in the committee making NDSU any higher than a 3 seed.

Professor Chaos
11-20-2016, 03:00 AM
I have no faith in the committee making NDSU any higher than a 3 seed.
Based on??? Hyper-paranoia???

The only time NDSU has been less than a #2 seed over the last 6 years is the only time they had more than 1 FCS loss in any given season. As much as you may like to think otherwise the committee has seeded NDSU pretty generously over the last 5 years. The matchups they've fed into NDSU... well that's another story.

Hammerhead
11-20-2016, 03:13 AM
NDSU vs. SDSU or EWU in Frisco would be epic.


Its going to be

NDSU 1
EWU 2
SHSU 3
JSU 4
JMU 5
Citadel 6
SDSU 7
UND 8

NDSUstudent
11-20-2016, 03:16 AM
My seeds....

1: NDSU
2: EWU
3: SHSU
4: JMU
5: JSU
6: The Citadel
7: SDSU
8: UND

bison22
11-20-2016, 03:16 AM
Dont know if it has been said yet. But what time is the selection show?

Bison Bridge Guy
11-20-2016, 03:17 AM
Dont know if it has been said yet. But what time is the selection show?

10am CT........

bison22
11-20-2016, 03:19 AM
Awesome. Thank you.

MinotBison
11-20-2016, 03:21 AM
They might be seeded now, but I suspect they get planted in their first and only playoff game.

The firetrucks think they match up better with us than they do with the Jacks.

ndsubison1
11-20-2016, 03:41 AM
JMU should be above both SHSU and JSU. I'd argue that The Citadel should be above JSU also.

What it should be:

1) NDSU
2) EWU
3) JMU
4) SHSU
5) The Citadel
6) JSU
7) SDSU
8) UND

Then again, JSU's AD is on the selection committee...

Have to think like the committee. Based on resumes, JMU should probably be at least 4th. maybe 3rd. Should be at least 5th. Committee likes to spread the wealth. They may mess up the bottom seeds. Which I could see SDSU not even being seeded and there always seems to be a head scratcher team that gets in.

HerdBot
11-20-2016, 04:12 AM
Dont know if it has been said yet. But what time is the selection show?


10am CT........

Bison 1660 is doing a reaction radio show 11 am tomorrow too

El_Chapo
11-20-2016, 04:28 AM
1 EWU
2 NDSU
7 SDSU
8 u d