Week 7 Polls

[NDSUstudent]

AGS Poll
1 Eastern Washington Eagles 1998 33 3
2 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1973 27 2
3 North Dakota State Bison 1906 11 1
4 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1836 8 4
5 The Citadel Bulldogs 1719 1 7
6 James Madison Dukes 1671 4 6
7 Richmond Spiders 1561 8
8 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1561 11
9 Montana Grizzlies 1442 9
10 Chattanooga Mocs 1297 5
11 Youngstown State Penguins 1243 12
12 Charleston Southern Buccaneers 1215 10
13 Western Illinois Leathernecks 1077 14
14 Cal Poly Mustangs 1039 15
15 Central Arkansas Bears 897 17
16 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 828 18
17 Samford Bulldogs 759 19
18 Villanova Wildcats 648 13
19 Eastern Illinois Panthers 555 21
20 North Carolina A&T Aggies 457 22
21 Stony Brook Seawolves 340 26
22 Albany Great Danes 334 16
23 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 227 27
24 South Dakota Coyotes 123 31
25 Wofford Terriers 110 28
ORV:
26 Tennessee State Tigers 92 30
27 New Hampshire Wildcats 87 24
28 Harvard Crimson 64 20
29T Grambling State Tigers 44 29
29T Maine Black Bears 44 NR
31 Sacred Heart Pioneers 41 34
32 Weber State Wildcats 38 NR
33 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 19 25
34 North Carolina Central Eagles 15 NR
35T Illinois State Redbirds 9 33
35T Northern Iowa Panthers 9 23
37T Liberty Flames 6 NR
37T Missouri State Bears 6 36
39T Fordham Rams 4 40
39T William & Mary Tribe 4 39
41 Monmouth Hawks 2 37


Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits

Most Significant Loss: North Dakota State Bison

[THEsocalledfan]

AGS Poll
1 Eastern Washington Eagles 1998 33 3
2 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1973 27 2
3 North Dakota State Bison 1906 11 1
4 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1836 8 4
5 The Citadel Bulldogs 1719 1 7
6 James Madison Dukes 1671 4 6
7 Richmond Spiders 1561 8
8 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1561 11
9 Montana Grizzlies 1442 9
10 Chattanooga Mocs 1297 5
11 Youngstown State Penguins 1243 12
12 Charleston Southern Buccaneers 1215 10
13 Western Illinois Leathernecks 1077 14
14 Cal Poly Mustangs 1039 15
15 Central Arkansas Bears 897 17
16 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 828 18
17 Samford Bulldogs 759 19
18 Villanova Wildcats 648 13
19 Eastern Illinois Panthers 555 21
20 North Carolina A&T Aggies 457 22
21 Stony Brook Seawolves 340 26
22 Albany Great Danes 334 16
23 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 227 27
24 South Dakota Coyotes 123 31
25 Wofford Terriers 110 28
ORV:
26 Tennessee State Tigers 92 30
27 New Hampshire Wildcats 87 24
28 Harvard Crimson 64 20
29T Grambling State Tigers 44 29
29T Maine Black Bears 44 NR
31 Sacred Heart Pioneers 41 34
32 Weber State Wildcats 38 NR
33 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 19 25
34 North Carolina Central Eagles 15 NR
35T Illinois State Redbirds 9 33
35T Northern Iowa Panthers 9 23
37T Liberty Flames 6 NR
37T Missouri State Bears 6 36
39T Fordham Rams 4 40
39T William & Mary Tribe 4 39
41 Monmouth Hawks 2 37


Most Significant Win: South Dakota State Jackrabbits

Most Significant Loss: North Dakota State Bison

Good grief. NDSU should still be a consensus #1. This shows how dumb these things are.

[TAILG8R]

Good grief. NDSU should still be a consensus #1. This shows how dumb these things are.

It shows how badly some are just waiting for NDSU to lose so they don't have to vote them #1.

[NDSUstudent]

Stats poll has us dropping to #4, SHSU at #1. Why even bother with playing a tough schedule?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu_FYzSWEAAk6MA.jpg

[CAS4127]

It shows how badly some are just waiting for NDSU to lose so they don't have to vote them #1.

#1?!?!! Did we get any votes for any level?

Edit: Figured it out.

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[NDSUstudent]

SHSU's schedule....So far...

Pan Handle State(1-6)
@Lamar(3-3)
@Houston Baptist(2-4)
vs SFA(3-4)
Incarnate Word(1-5)
Abilene Christian(0-7)

Meanwhile we've played a 5-2 Big 10 team and 3 top 10 teams. The Stats poll is such garbage.

[HerdBot]

Polls don't mean anything. Just keep woman's well be a 1 or a 2 seed. Our resume is impressive. One game at a time

[THEsocalledfan]

Polls don't mean anything. Just keep woman's well be a 1 or a 2 seed. Our resume is impressive. One game at a time

Except when the ultimate poll last year put us three which was also bullshit.

[HerdBot]

Except when the ultimate poll last year put us three which was also bullshit.

On paper they had a legit argument last year. Can they really say EWU deserves to be ahead of us with the same number of losses and a head to head loss? We had 2 losses last year and no FBS wins. Illinois State was legit

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Stats poll has us dropping to #4, SHSU at #1. Why even bother with playing a tough schedule?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu_FYzSWEAAk6MA.jpg

That guy who runs STATS has always been against the Bison. I haven't perused it since when it had it's original name.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Except when the ultimate poll last year put us three which was also bullshit.

You understood that post huh.

[MNLonghorn10]

I don't care if ndsu is a 2 or 3...as long as ewu and sdsu are a 1 4 and 5

[Mr. Burgundy]

SHSU's schedule....So far...

Pan Handle State(1-6)
@Lamar(3-3)
@Houston Baptist(2-4)
vs SFA(3-4)
Abilene Christian(0-7)

Meanwhile we've played a 5-2 Big 10 team and 3 top 10 teams. The Stats poll is such garbage.

You actually missed a game. Sam Houston actually played Incarnate WOrd on October 8th....and won. IN winning, they gave up 48 points....TO INCARNATE WORD! So less than 10 days ago, they gave up 48 points...to Incarnate Word. I think we all understand how bad Incarnate Word is.

[FCS Nation]

That guy who runs STATS has always been against the Bison. I haven't perused it since when it had it's original name.

"That guy who runs STATS" has the same number of votes as everyone else. ONE. I kept y'all at #1. Do you really think there is an evil conspiracy against NDSU?

[Mr Pep Band]

I think dropping to 4th is COMPLETE Bull$H!T!!

I was thinking maybe fall to second, remotely 3rd, due to SDSU being ranked #11.

If go by pure records and NOT anything else including head to head matchups, then 4th would seem appropriate.

HOWEVER, it is not that way. Intelligent people consider all aspects when ranking teams, this includes, head-to-head matchups, STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE, common opponents, points scored and points allowed, and look into the game stats some.

SHSU should NOT be ranked #1, if anyone should, it should be EWU, JSU, or maybe even The Citadel.

But objectively.....IMO.........NDSU is still the best because we beat a RANKED FBS IOWA team! Who else can measure up to that in the FCS? WHO?




My guess on this mess up is that voters saw that SHSU was undefeated and that they knew the name and voted based on name familiarity.

[NDSUstudent]

You actually missed a game. Sam Houston actually played Incarnate WOrd on October 8th....and won. IN winning, they gave up 48 points....TO INCARNATE WORD! So less than 10 days ago, they gave up 48 points...to Incarnate Word. I think we all understand how bad Incarnate Word is.

How could I forget one of their biggest cupcakes. Their opponents are a combined 10-29, if an FBS team was ranked #1 with that kind of schedule people would be melting down.

[MNLonghorn10]

How could I forget one of their biggest cupcakes. Their opponents are a combined 10-29, if an FBS team was ranked #1 with that kind of schedule people would be melting down.

Comes with the territory of being FCS.

[No_Skill]

"That guy who runs STATS" has the same number of votes as everyone else. ONE. I kept y'all at #1. Do you really think there is an evil conspiracy against NDSU?

Do you really think the general public isn't tired of NDSU, hope for their downfall, and just itch for an opportunity to drop them in polls?

[garbageman]

How many fan boards light up when other teams lose. Sure a lot of fan boards with Bison lose topic on their boards

[NDSUstudent]

Coaches Poll
1 Sam Houston State (21) 643 6-0 2
2 Jacksonville State (2) 612 5-1 4
3 Eastern Washington (1) 556 5-1 5
4 North Dakota State (1) 546 5-1 1
5 James Madison (1) 533 6-1 6
6 The Citadel 513 6-0 9
7 Richmond 495 6-1 7
8 Chattanooga 439 6-1 3
9 Charleston Southern 431 3-2 8
10 Montana 428 5-1 10
11 South Dakota State 409 4-2 14
12 Youngstown State 376 5-1 12
13 Western Illinois 336 5-1 13
14 North Carolina A&T 294 5-1 16
15 Eastern Illinois 258 4-2 17
16 North Dakota 253 5-2 18
17 Villanova 220 5-2 11
18t Cal Poly 207 4-2 20
18t Central Arkansas 207 5-1 22
20 Samford 147 5-1 24
21 Grambling State 95 4-1 23
22 Stony Brook 91 4-2 NR
23 Harvard 87 4-1 15
24 Albany 50 4-2 19
25 Tennessee State 43 5-1 NR

[gizmo]

Polls are silly.

[ByeSonBusiness]

On paper they had a legit argument last year. Can they really say EWU deserves to be ahead of us with the same number of losses and a head to head loss? We had 2 losses last year and no FBS wins. Illinois State was legit

You can make an argument for EWU. They played on the road and lost in OT. I'd still have NDSU at #1 but it is not a big surprise to see them drop a couple spots.

[JSUBison]

You can make an argument for EWU. They played on the road and lost in OT. I'd still have NDSU at #1 but it is not a big surprise to see them drop a couple spots.

I agree, if someone has EWU #1 I see the argument. I put EWU #1 in my poll. But I just find it amazing that people have SHSU at #1. SHSU are a bunch of frauds for the reasons listed previous in the thread. I have SHSU #11. I wish Stats would publish every poll voters ballot so the media writers have to defend their garbage. Would love to have someone try to explain to me how SHSU has a better resume then EWU, NDSU, Citadel, Jax State, Richmond, JMU, etc.

[CAS4127]

Who really cares at this point where we are ranked. Personally, I think anywhere in top 10, sans 1-3 is about right from what I've seen of NDSU so far. We can beat any top 15 team or lose to one, so 4-10 seems about right to me.


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[SoCalBison]

Whatever. Win the next one.

[wagsabison]

Just matters at the end of the year and where we end up for playoff seeding. Crazy to look at our schedule and SHSU's schedule see how they compare. Our schedule has been ridiculously difficult compared to theirs.

[Mr Meaty]

Just matters at the end of the year and where we end up for playoff seeding. Crazy to look at our schedule and SHSU's schedule see how they compare. Our schedule has been ridiculously difficult compared to theirs.

And this is why SHSU will not make the title game. Weak schedule means weak playoff run.

[wagsabison]

And this is why SHSU will not make the title game. Weak schedule means weak playoff run.

I read through their board a little and they were talking how great their team is. Saying if EWU can put up 40 points against NDSU they can too (I can't completely disagree at this point, ha) but they haven't played a difficult team at all to compare to.

[Mr. Burgundy]

I read through their board a little and they were talking how great their team is. Saying if EWU can put up 40 points against NDSU they can too (I can't completely disagree at this point, ha) but they haven't played a difficult team at all to compare to.

They gave up 48 to Incarnate Word. THat is where I stop listening to all conversations. Are we perfect? NO! But, my goodness a lot of these teams arean't playing anyone.

[bisonaudit]

They gave up 48 to Incarnate Word. THat is where I stop listening to all conversations. Are we perfect? NO! But, my goodness a lot of these teams arean't playing anyone.

I don't disagree with the 48 to Incarnate Word argument; but I would feel better about it if we'd scored more than 17 on SDSU.

[CAS4127]

They gave up 48 to Incarnate Word. THat is where I stop listening to all conversations. Are we perfect? NO! But, my goodness a lot of these teams arean't playing anyone.

Unfortunately, I think part of the mindset of our O coaches going into SDSU game was that SDSU D was soft and we wouldn't need to do much to put up a bunch of points on them. If we end up playing SHSU, I sure hope they don't wash, rinse and repeat like the D side did re: EWU/SDSU.

[TransAmBison]

I don't disagree with the 48 to Incarnate Word argument; but I would feel better about it if we'd scored more than 17 on SDSU.Could this be somewhat like back when und built a defense to beat NDSU way back when? Then as a consequence they developed a good defense. Could it be SDSU built a defense to beat NDSU...and they looked bad against other teams with a completely different style of offense? I don't think we can hold TCU against them. Cal Poly at Cal Poly can be a handful for anybody...I remember a game in '07 where we stole a game. SIU has an offense that can really move the ball at times...we had our hands full last year.

With that all said do I think SDSU has a good defense? No, but they aren't terrible either.

[TransAmBison]

Unfortunately, I think part of the mindset of our O coaches going into SDSU game was that SDSU D was soft and we wouldn't need to do much to put up a bunch of points on them. If we end up playing SHSU, I sure hope they don't wash, rinse and repeat like the D side did re: EWU/SDSU.I wonder if you might have stumbled into something. Would have been interesting to talk to you about it before the game at tailgating. :)

[MNLonghorn10]

A sdsu ewu game would be fun as hell to watch....on the other side of the bracket.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

A sdsu ewu game would be fun as hell to watch....on the other side of the bracket.

HA.

Like they would ever put MVFC teams on opposite sides of the bracket. Good joke.

[natstar1]

Could this be somewhat like back when und built a defense to beat NDSU way back when? Then as a consequence they developed a good defense. Could it be SDSU built a defense to beat NDSU...and they looked bad against other teams with a completely different style of offense? I don't think we can hold TCU against them. Cal Poly at Cal Poly can be a handful for anybody...I remember a game in '07 where we stole a game. SIU has an offense that can really move the ball at times...we had our hands full last year.

With that all said do I think SDSU has a good defense? No, but they aren't terrible either.

I think this is part of the reason NDSU's offense has been successful over the years. Everyone builds their defense to defend the spread, so teams like NDSU can exploit that by running it down their throats.

[MNLonghorn10]

HA.

Like they would ever put MVFC teams on opposite sides of the bracket. Good joke.
Ewu 4 seed, sdsu 5, ndsu last seed in?

[Answer Guy]

Cal Poly at Cal Poly can be a handful for anybody...

Cal Poly game was in Brookings.

[TransAmBison]

Cal Poly game was in Brookings.Oh really? Well that doesn't work well for my case...

[Mr. Burgundy]

Cal Poly game was in Brookings.

In front of a PACKED HOUSE....wait, a pretty new house.

[Mr. Burgundy]

I am concerned about our injuries. A lot of depth has been lost as we have moved guys up the depth chart. Especially on special teams. We are still deeper than most, and like others have flaws. In regards to the way we play, we got our butts beat. I have moved on, and haven't forgotten about how we can look, when we are playing our best. I hope we come out Saturday and explode, I hope we shake things up, get explosive, and play angry. I do think we play conservative and know that in the 4th quarter we take over, and that didn't happen. we were coasting to a 2 TD lead when Shep drops a great first down throw, and King fumbles. They beat us. I love going on the road, the us against the world mentality now. Play in a stale environment and act like the champs. Last week was a tough week. I can't imagine how tough some of those young guys had it looking at their captain hurting. Nice to refocus and grab what is ours.

THe title of this is the polls...and nobody can tell me we should be 4th. If anyone wants to compare schedules, we can do that. You should probably talk quality wins at this point of the season when you want to talk playoff seeding. NDSU's resume is quite good. Very comfortable with a 5-1 record going into the 7th game. Now we play at #13, their homecoming game. Another big test. THe super bowl this week is in Macomb Illinois. Wonder if they punt? Maybe a second quarter on side kick? We will take their best shot, just like we do every week. Time to punch first. I would love some trickeration. I could care less if it goes on tape, every team has a batch of those plays, you can tweak it at any point in time. when a defense is overplaying something...use it against them. I am fired up. New opportunity on Saturday.

[THEsocalledfan]

I am concerned about our injuries. A lot of depth has been lost as we have moved guys up the depth chart. Especially on special teams. We are still deeper than most, and like others have flaws. In regards to the way we play, we got our butts beat. I have moved on, and haven't forgotten about how we can look, when we are playing our best. I hope we come out Saturday and explode, I hope we shake things up, get explosive, and play angry. I do think we play conservative and know that in the 4th quarter we take over, and that didn't happen. we were coasting to a 2 TD lead when Shep drops a great first down throw, and King fumbles. They beat us. I love going on the road, the us against the world mentality now. Play in a stale environment and act like the champs. Last week was a tough week. I can't imagine how tough some of those young guys had it looking at their captain hurting. Nice to refocus and grab what is ours.

THe title of this is the polls...and nobody can tell me we should be 4th. If anyone wants to compare schedules, we can do that. You should probably talk quality wins at this point of the season when you want to talk playoff seeding. NDSU's resume is quite good. Very comfortable with a 5-1 record going into the 7th game. Now we play at #13, their homecoming game. Another big test. THe super bowl this week is in Macomb Illinois. Wonder if they punt? Maybe a second quarter on side kick? We will take their best shot, just like we do every week. Time to punch first. I would love some trickeration. I could care less if it goes on tape, every team has a batch of those plays, you can tweak it at any point in time. when a defense is overplaying something...use it against them. I am fired up. New opportunity on Saturday.

The old Brent Vigen flea flicker used to be a killer with Jensen. Time to dig that one out if we start rolling them on the ground.

[Mr. Burgundy]

The old Brent Vigen flea flicker used to be a killer with Jensen. Time to dig that one out if we start rolling them on the ground.

I was begging for a jet sweet to Dmitri late as we wanted the clock to start ticking and they were selling out against the run. We have a lot of variations with that, and that young man is explosive. Just one game. Such a tough job. 24 hour rule in effect.

[oldmantutters]

I want to see this team come out and beat someone's ass. We have the talent to do that but haven't done it yet this year. We've seen glimpses of it here and there but nothing sustained. It's really frustrating as a fan. C'mon boys, pedal to the floor, foot on their throats and every other cliche. Get out there and rip someone's fucking head off. LET'S GO!

[UND-92]

I watched most of the SU game after the UND game was over. From what I saw, SDSU outplayed NDSU the entire game. I was very surprised the Jacks didn't kick a couple of FGs in the first quarter instead of going for a TD twice and not getting in. If they do that, the final score is different and the final TD not even needed. The Jacks looked better than I expected or NDSU is not as good as I thought this year. The next 5 games in all conferences will shake out the pretenders and let the cream float to the top.

I agree SHSU is way over rated, but until they get beat, they are still undefeated. I would see an early playoff exit coming for them. Lets hope we see each other in DEC.

[Christopher Moen]

I watched most of the SU game after the UND game was over. From what I saw, SDSU outplayed NDSU the entire game. I was very surprised the Jacks didn't kick a couple of FGs in the first quarter instead of going for a TD twice and not getting in. If they do that, the final score is different and the final TD not even needed. The Jacks looked better than I expected or NDSU is not as good as I thought this year. The next 5 games in all conferences will shake out the pretenders and let the cream float to the top.

I agree SHSU is way over rated, but until they get beat, they are still undefeated. I would see an early playoff exit coming for them. Lets hope we see each other in DEC.

If SDSU scores a TD on any of those early misses, NDSU's offensive approach is whole lot different, especially in regards to running up the middle with eight in the box. Playing conservative with a 20+ point lead is okay, while have less than 10 point lead is not. Don't believe me, then look at the EWU game.

[IzzyFlexion]

The injury bug is stronger this season than it has been for years.

With the bye weeks being over, it becomes more of a concern.

Hoping guys who are getting their shot elevate their game.

Did Darren Kelly play in the secondary against SDSU? I don't recall.

[tolnabison]

The injury bug is stronger this season than it has been for years.

With the bye weeks being over, it becomes more of a concern.

Hoping guys who are getting their shot elevate their game.

Did Darren Kelly play in the secondary against SDSU? I don't recall.

No he did not. He was on the kickoff coverage team.

[stevdock]

The old Brent Vigen flea flicker used to be a killer with Jensen. Time to dig that one out if we start rolling them on the ground.

Isn't that what it took to beat WIU the last time we were down there??

[StL Bison Fan]

Isn't that what it took to beat WIU the last time we were down there??

Pass from Crockett to Wentz. Fun stuff

[Fear the Beak!]

From my corner of the FCS world, NDSU should be ranked 1, 2 at the lowest. I do wonder how much the "polls folks" really know about the teams they are voting on. JSU is very good this year, I attend every home game and a few of the away games, but we are missing PATs, short field goals...our special teams are not where they need to be at all; yet somehow we are ranked 2.

[Christopher Moen]

From my corner of the FCS world, NDSU should be ranked 1, 2 at the lowest. I do wonder how much the "polls folks" really know about the teams they are voting on. JSU is very good this year, I attend every home game and a few of the away games, but we are missing PATs, short field goals...our special teams are not where they need to be at all; yet somehow we are ranked 2.

Is this you? https://www.facebook.com/pinkphoto/videos/10206856864473191/?hc_location=ufi

If so, it was cool meeting you after the game.

[Fear the Beak!]

No, he looks like an awesome JSU fan but that's not me. I am in the article below.

http://www.annistonstar.com/news/two-huntsville-coworkers---one-ndsu-fan-another-jsu/article_069ae9e8-b55e-11e5-8199-1bcf7c02aec6.html

[Christopher Moen]

No, he looks like an awesome JSU fan but that's not me. I am in the article below.

http://www.annistonstar.com/news/two-huntsville-coworkers---one-ndsu-fan-another-jsu/article_069ae9e8-b55e-11e5-8199-1bcf7c02aec6.html

He was a pretty good dude. He actually went on the field after the game and congratulated us and took pictures.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

I don't disagree with the 48 to Incarnate Word argument; but I would feel better about it if we'd scored more than 17 on SDSU.

If Fraiser doesn't fumble the gawd damn ball at mid field with Bison leading 17-3, this would all be moot.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

I watched most of the SU game after the UND game was over. From what I saw, SDSU outplayed NDSU the entire game. I was very surprised the Jacks didn't kick a couple of FGs in the first quarter instead of going for a TD twice and not getting in. If they do that, the final score is different and the final TD not even needed. The Jacks looked better than I expected or NDSU is not as good as I thought this year. The next 5 games in all conferences will shake out the pretenders and let the cream float to the top.

I agree SHSU is way over rated, but until they get beat, they are still undefeated. I would see an early playoff exit coming for them. Lets hope we see each other in DEC.

The simple reason Stig didn't take the FGs was that he was pretty sure, from past experience, he was going to need TDs to beat the Bison. The Bison just didn't live up to their usual game. Same reason he was going for it on 4th down.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

"That guy who runs STATS" has the same number of votes as everyone else. ONE. I kept y'all at #1. Do you really think there is an evil conspiracy against NDSU?

Is the Pope Catholic? (well, not necessarily THIS Pope).

[bisonaudit]

Is the Pope Catholic? (well, not necessarily THIS Pope).

Really? Why? And no, I don't want an answer. That's a 'why here?' why.

[CAS4127]

Heard NCAA may be releasing early seed/rankings for FCS POs this year, as in maybe starting later this week. ?????


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[dewey]

Heard NCAA may be releasing early seed/rankings for FCS POs this year, as in maybe starting later this week. ?????


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Correct.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20161030095717201231404

(STATS) - It will be interesting to see what the NCAA Division I FCS selection committee thinks of the potential playoff field later this week.

What the rest of us think doesn't matter.

On Thursday, the selection committee will release the first of three weekly Top 10 rankings - much like what happens on the FBS level. It's a new feature of the committee leading into Selection Sunday on Nov. 20. The first rankings will be aired on ESPN's "College Football Live," which begins at 3 p.m. ET.

Sam Houston State is top-ranked in the STATS FCS Top 25 and in other leading FCS polls. But the Bearkats, playing in a relatively down Southland Conference, are lacking a high strength of schedule, so the committee may not have them atop its first rankings.The STATS postseason projection has had the Bearkats as the fourth seed in recent weeks, behind North Dakota State, Eastern Washington and Jacksonville State.

In support of Sam Houston, it's handled every challenge with relative ease and hasn't trailed in a game this season. Plus, two of its final three games would be considered excellent wins - McNeese and Southland co-leader Central Arkansas.




Dewey

[89MTBISON]

We gotta be #1 seed at this point in the season, no?

[MNLonghorn10]

I think NDSU is the 1 seed until a second loss.

Bearkats schedule is absolutely embarrassing, on an FCS level. Every SHSU should feel ashamed and dirty for thinking their team is deserving of a #1 seed.

[thebootfitter]

We gotta be #1 seed at this point in the season, no?


I think NDSU is the 1 seed until a second loss.

Bearkats schedule is absolutely embarrassing, on an FCS level. Every SHSU should feel ashamed and dirty for thinking their team is deserving of a #1 seed.
See 2011. Though the committee does seem to have adjusted their emphasis on strength of schedule a little bit since then. Still wouldn't be surprised to see NDSU at #2, assuming both SHSU and NDSU win out.

[DM05]

NDSU: 7-1 with P5 win, #1 SOS, entire schedule is against the FCS top 50 (Sagarin), will play 8 of the top 26 and 4 of the top 6 plus Iowa
EWU: 7-1 with P5 win, #6 SOS, five top 50 games (lost to NDSU, beat UNI, Northern Arizona, Montana, yet to play Cal-Poly)
JSU: 7-1 with a D2 win (North Alabama), #38 SOS , four top 50 games (beat Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Eastern Illinois, yet to play UTM), will likely be the only team from OVC in playoffs
SHSU: 8-0 with a D2 win (OK Panhandle St), #104 SOS, two top 50 games (yet to play both McNeese and Central Arkansas), 7 games against #70 or worse

Almost zero chance Sam Houston gets the #1 seed, with that schedule and with other deserving teams that actually have several quality wins. If NDSU wins out and SHSU is ahead of them, the committee would basically be saying "Join the worst conference you can, schedule D2 teams, and go undefeated and you get homefield throughout even though you did nothing to earn it."

The only team that has an argument for number 1 right now ahead of NDSU is Eastern Washington. Similar resume, we have better SOS. We also own the head to head, but it did go to OT in Fargo. I think NDSU is the clear #1 based on the body of work to date, but only one team even has an argument IMO.

Longhorn is right on: that SHSU schedule is an embarrassment. Their conference sucks, but instead of getting an FBS or really good FCS team they schedule D2? Last year JSU was ahead of us based on one close loss at Auburn and the fact we lost 2 games and had no FBS win. We still got the three seed. I believe McNeese was undefeated and got #4. We win out we are number 2 at absolute worst. A couple tough games left to take care of before that happens.

[bisonaudit]

I think this is a bad idea for the committee. The only purpose of this whole exercise, releasing rankings in advance, is to create content. If that's what their media partners want, I get it, but given the treatment FCS football gets from the four letter, I can't imagine this is coming from them. Could be wrong, but I just don't get it outside that context.

[thebootfitter]

The only team that has an argument for number 1 right now ahead of NDSU is Eastern Washington. Similar resume, we have better SOS. We also own the head to head, but it did go to OT in Fargo. I think NDSU is the clear #1 based on the body of work to date, but only one team even has an argument IMO.
Don't mention this to SDBison and a few others... they think there's no argument to be had. :hide:

I think last year's seeding of McNeese suggests that an undefeated SHSU won't get number 1, but I still say look at 2011. And I also think SHSU is beating teams more handily than McNeese last year. I still wouldn't be surprised with SHSU at #1.

[EC8CH]

Don't mention this to SDBison and a few others... they think there's no argument to be had. :hide:

I think last year's seeding of McNeese suggests that an undefeated SHSU won't get number 1, but I still say look at 2011. And I also think SHSU is beating teams more handily than McNeese last year. I still wouldn't be surprised with SHSU at #1.

I would after hearing the chairman's interview on Bison 1660. Made it clear scheduling tough non conference schedule was very important.

[Professor Chaos]

Beyond having the toughest non-conference schedule in the FCS you could also make the argument that NDSU has the toughest conference schedule as well. While not head and shoulders above the rest like it was in 2014 and 2015 the MVFC is still the best FCS conference in the country by almost any objective measure and the only MVFC team NDSU doesn't play is cellar dweller SIU who is trending towards not winning a conference game all year (they're 0-5 and they have USD, YSU, and WIU left).

Bottom line is the Bison SOS is off the charts this year... literally. Most everywhere I've seen has UNI with the 2nd toughest schedule and their FBS team was obviously much easier (as evidenced by Iowa's 42-3 whitewashing of Iowa St). Beyond that the only difference in the two schedules is UNI played Montana and SIU whereas the Bison played Charleston Southern and Illinois St. Clear advantage NDSU again.

[tjbison]

Beyond having the toughest non-conference schedule in the FCS you could also make the argument that NDSU has the toughest conference schedule as well. While not head and shoulders above the rest like it was in 2014 and 2015 the MVFC is still the best FCS conference in the country by almost any objective measure and the only MVFC team NDSU doesn't play is cellar dweller SIU who is trending towards not winning a conference game all year (they're 0-5 and they have USD, YSU, and WIU left).

Bottom line is the Bison SOS is off the charts this year... literally. Most everywhere I've seen has UNI with the 2nd toughest schedule and their FBS team was obviously much easier (as evidenced by Iowa's 42-3 whitewashing of Iowa St). Beyond that the only difference in the two schedules is UNI played Montana and SIU whereas the Bison played Charleston Southern and Illinois St. Clear advantage NDSU again.

try explaining this to people who dont understand.....MIGRAINE

i have some friends from "other" schools that firmly believe they will be top 4 but somehow NDSU wont be top 2...lol

[Professor Chaos]

try explaining this to people who dont understand.....MIGRAINE

i have some friends from "other" schools that firmly believe they will be top 4 but somehow NDSU wont be top 2...lol
Oh yeah... on AGS I'm pretty sure I've seen fans from the following schools utter the "if we win out there's no way we're not in the top 2" line:

1) NDSU
2) EWU
3) SHSU
4) JSU
5) The Citadel (with the exception of their game against North Carolina)
6) JMU

Funny thing is none of those teams play each so all 6 could win out. There's going to be a lot of pissing and moaning if even 4 of those 6 teams win out.

[Mr Meaty]

Beyond having the toughest non-conference schedule in the FCS you could also make the argument that NDSU has the toughest conference schedule as well. While not head and shoulders above the rest like it was in 2014 and 2015 the MVFC is still the best FCS conference in the country by almost any objective measure and the only MVFC team NDSU doesn't play is cellar dweller SIU who is trending towards not winning a conference game all year (they're 0-5 and they have USD, YSU, and WIU left).

Bottom line is the Bison SOS is off the charts this year... literally. Most everywhere I've seen has UNI with the 2nd toughest schedule and their FBS team was obviously much easier (as evidenced by Iowa's 42-3 whitewashing of Iowa St). Beyond that the only difference in the two schedules is UNI played Montana and SIU whereas the Bison played Charleston Southern and Illinois St. Clear advantage NDSU again.


But the Bison do not have to play the Bison so there is another advantage for NDSU. lol