Missouri State Pregame Thread

[gumby013]

Missouri State Pregame Thread Discussion

Game Notes - Depth chart on last page.

http://missouristatebears.com/documents/2016/10/3/5_North_Dakota_State.pdf

Coach Interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgtxijsF2E

[gumby013]

Players Interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKsobK4lfMs

[KilldeerBison]

Anybody know if their QB, Ruddick will be off suspension? He is the guy that was suspended for breaking a dog's jaw.

[Bison 4 Life]

Anybody know if their QB, Ruddick will be off suspension? He is the guy that was suspended for breaking a dog's jaw.

It was the other kid who killed it last week anyway.

[Kevin]

It was the other kid who killed it last week anyway.

Breaking it's jaw wasn't bad enough?

[Bison 4 Life]

Breaking it's jaw wasn't bad enough?

Poor choice of words. Chopped down the trees?

[MizzouMan]

Breaking it's jaw wasn't bad enough?

Hahaha. That whole story is wild. There are like 200,000 people who have signed the online petition about Breck Ruddick. I have interacted with a couple of MSU fans/alums who are refusing to donate or support MSU until he is kicked out of school. I could maybe understand that stance in regard to his status on the team, but full investigation be darned, people want blood. And now.

[Gully]

I hope their safety has finally graduated. Schafitzle or something like that? He always played great against NDSU.

[gumby013]

I hope their safety has finally graduated. Schafitzle or something like that? He always played great against NDSU.

Their starting safeties are listed as:

Jared Beshore - 6'0" 196 Sophomore

Cameron Price - 6'2" 208 Redshirt Freshman

[Bison03]

Maybe Ed Schultz can weigh in on this controversy.

[Bison 4 Life]

I just bought 2 seats in section H row 2 for $5. That's the lowest price I've paid to see a football game since I was a student.

[KilldeerBison]

Maybe Ed Schultz can weigh in on this controversy.
Big Eddie can be expected to react with guns blazing, regarding matters of animal cruelty.

[StL Bison Fan]

I just bought 2 seats in section H row 2 for $5. That's the lowest price I've paid to see a football game since I was a student.

In all fairness they are at least charging something. At weber they gave the tickets away at the convenience store if you bought a coke.

[Bison 4 Life]

In all fairness they are at least charging something. At weber they gave the tickets away at the convenience store if you bought a coke.

well if someone has not bought yet and needs only one ticket, I'll probably give it away at the tailgate if my son doesn't want to come.

[bisonmike2]

Hahaha. That whole story is wild. There are like 200,000 people who have signed the online petition about Breck Ruddick. I have interacted with a couple of MSU fans/alums who are refusing to donate or support MSU until he is kicked out of school. I could maybe understand that stance in regard to his status on the team, but full investigation be darned, people want blood. And now.

Anyone sticking up for the kid? Maybe the dog was a dick and deserved it?

[Kevin]

Poor choice of words. Chopped down the trees?

Wait... so their back up qb is a dog killing lumberjack?

What kind of program are they running down there?

[Professor Chaos]

I think that the fact that Missouri St will have a half decent crowd for once against NDSU is actually a good thing for the Bison. It seems like in the late season games in 2014/2012/2010 the NDSU teams have kind of sleepwalked through the game and part of that has been a completely dead atmosphere there. Having a few more Bears fans there should give our guys a little more energy with that traditional road-game feel. At least that's my hope.

[StL Bison Fan]

I think that the fact that Missouri St will have a half decent crowd for once against NDSU is actually a good thing for the Bison. It seems like in the late season games in 2014/2012/2010 the NDSU teams have kind of sleepwalked through the game and part of that has been a completely dead atmosphere there. Having a few more Bears fans there should give our guys a little more energy with that traditional road-game feel. At least that's my hope.
I think it just makes for a better atmosphere all the way around. MO state is one of the places I enjoy going.

[gumby013]

I think it just makes for a better atmosphere all the way around. MO state is one of the places I enjoy going.

Which lot is NDSU tailgating?

[DakotaOkie]

I just bought 2 seats in section H row 2 for $5. That's the lowest price I've paid to see a football game since I was a student.
Man, I thought my $10 tickets in section G were a bargain! A concession stand coke might cost more than your ticket price of $2.50. Or was yours $0 and you will give the $5 ticket away.
Actually I hope your son comes along and you get some good father/son time together.

[Bison 4 Life]

Which lot is NDSU tailgating?

There's really only one lot, just south of the stadium. The MSU folks were all at places just north of the stadium.

[StL Bison Fan]

Which lot is NDSU tailgating?

There is only one long lot and I sure cant remember the direction. It is right across from the entrance.
They have their BearFest Village and then we are past that. You should be able to find us.
Remember you cannot bring beer into the stadium

[Bison 4 Life]

There is only one long lot and I sure cant remember the direction. It is right across from the entrance.
They have their BearFest Village and then we are past that. You should be able to find us.
Remember you cannot bring beer into the stadium

See my pic in the other thread. :)

[StL Bison Fan]

If you are in the tailgate lot, please look us up. The alumni association is making a box of goodies for us to pass out.
I am sure it will be beads and such. And I have been assured there will be Pom Pons!!!! :rolleyes:

[Green1]

If you are in the tailgate lot, please look us up. The alumni association is making a box of goodies for us to pass out.
I am sure it will be beads and such. And I have been assured there will be Pom Pons!!!! :rolleyes:


MO State might as well forfeit now and save themselves from crushing power of mighty Pom Pons! I hope they bar women and children from the stadium so as not to traumatize them at the sight of the slaughter.

[bisonhp330]

MO State might as well forfeit now and save themselves from crushing power of mighty Pom Pons! I hope they bar women and children from the stadium so as not to traumatize them at the sight of the slaughter.

YES!!! BRING ON THE POM PONS!!!!!!!!!!! VICTORY IS OURS!


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[jcdcubs]

Bison win 41-7

:cheers:

[devin45k]

Bison win 41-7

:cheers:

I am predicting 34 points via safeties

[HerdBot]

Here is an interview with Missouri State head coach Dave Steckel on Bison 1660. It was on Keith Brakes show.
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/missouri-state-head-coach-dave-steckel-on-the-brakedown-tuesday-october-4th

[BearsCountry]

Here is a map for tailgating:
http://missouristatebears.com/sports/2016/8/23/bearfest-village.aspx

Surface parking lots south of the stadium are for tailgating. All of the Bears tailgating is at BearFest Village, which is north of the stadium. It's located on a great spot on campus and has a great feel. Especially with a big crowd.

[bisonmike2]

Here is a map for tailgating:
http://missouristatebears.com/sports/2016/8/23/bearfest-village.aspx

Surface parking lots south of the stadium are for tailgating. All of the Bears tailgating is at BearFest Village, which is north of the stadium. It's located on a great spot on campus and has a great feel. Especially with a big crowd.


I have a friend who lives in San Francisco. I think he lives near BearFest Village.

[1993bison]

Is this the first Missouri State game to ever have some buzz to it?

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[Mr Meaty]

Is this the first Missouri State game to ever have some buzz to it?

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Pregame Buzz , YES!!!! There has been plenty post game buzz before.

[THEsocalledfan]

I don't buy it. Let's remember who they beat and don't be surprised when we win by 30.

[Bison03]

As far as the game is concerned, I don't get what some people are saying about Missouri St. and them being a good team. I mean, come on. They win a conference game for the first time in 2 years and all of a sudden they are a good team? I get it, you can't take any team lightly I the Valley; and obviously the team won't; but I don't see them as anything much different then last year. Just look at their wins so far this year.

Southwestern College: 57-0 W (NAIA school)
Murray State: W 28-22 (Currently have a 1-4 record)
Indiana State: W 45-24 (Won vs Illinois State and that's the only good win)

There is no reason to believe that the Bison won't win this by 21+.

[Bison 4 Life]

As far as the game is concerned, I don't get what some people are saying about Missouri St. and them being a good team. I mean, come on. They win a conference game for the first time in 2 years and all of a sudden they are a good team? I get it, you can't take any team lightly I the Valley; and obviously the team won't; but I don't see them as anything much different then last year. Just look at their wins so far this year.

Southwestern College: 57-0 W (NAIA school)
Murray State: W 28-22 (Currently have a 1-4 record)
Indiana State: W 45-24 (Won vs Illinois State and that's the only good win)

There is no reason to believe that the Bison won't win this by 21+.

Yeah but as dead as the last one was, it will be nice to have a little atmosphere, even if it's only for an hour.

[THEsocalledfan]

As far as the game is concerned, I don't get what some people are saying about Missouri St. and them being a good team. I mean, come on. They win a conference game for the first time in 2 years and all of a sudden they are a good team? I get it, you can't take any team lightly I the Valley; and obviously the team won't; but I don't see them as anything much different then last year. Just look at their wins so far this year.

Southwestern College: 57-0 W (NAIA school)
Murray State: W 28-22 (Currently have a 1-4 record)
Indiana State: W 45-24 (Won vs Illinois State and that's the only good win)

There is no reason to believe that the Bison won't win this by 21+.

And the Indiana St. win over Illinois st. was only because the good QB did not play right away.

[Bison 4 Life]

I just read that they're trying to cook up a thing where they collectively shake their keys on 3rd down.

Adorbs.

[KidZer0]

Here is a map for tailgating:
http://missouristatebears.com/sports/2016/8/23/bearfest-village.aspx

Surface parking lots south of the stadium are for tailgating. All of the Bears tailgating is at BearFest Village, which is north of the stadium. It's located on a great spot on campus and has a great feel. Especially with a big crowd.

IIRC, most of the Bison tailgaters were in Lot 24 two years ago. Is that where folks are planning to be Saturday?

[1993bison]

Yeah but the Bison have a tendency to play poorly in Springfield. It could be closer that most have predicted.

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[Bison 4 Life]

Yeah but the Bison have a tendency to play poorly in Springfield. It could be closer that most have predicted.

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One game, 6 years ago, is not a "tendency". They pretty much named the score last time.

[1993bison]

One game, 6 years ago, is not a "tendency". They pretty much named the score last time.
2 of the last 3 times we played there we did not play well

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[Bison 4 Life]

2 of the last 3 times we played there we did not play well

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What are you talking about? 2014 was a mercy killing 2012 the defense gave up only 149 yds and it was only 3 picks by Jensen that kept the game clause. That was the year he became uncharacteristically interception prone for a stretch.

This won't even be close.

[Christopher Moen]

I just read that they're trying to cook up a thing where they collectively shake their keys on 3rd down.

Adorbs.

Are they stealing that from UNI?

[gumby013]

Are they stealing that from UNI?

I guess they don't know you should try to steal good things.

[Vet70]

Are they stealing that from UNI?

It has been going on at different stadiums for years.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=rattling%20of%20keys%20at%20football%20games

[Bison 4 Life]

Gophers do it to. So bush.

[Mr Meaty]

Gophers do it to. So bush.

The Gophs do it for "keys" to the game.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

Missouri isn't even a real state.

[Son of a Bison]

Gophers do it to. So bush.

The Gophs do it not because they are organized to do it. It is spontaneous as they know when to grab their keys because they have lost again.

[Bison 4 Life]

Missouri isn't even a real state.

I always wait to cross into Missouri before I relieve myself.

[Da Bison]

I always wait to cross into Missouri before I relieve myself.
Just don't.........Jerk and Drive!!!


Oops wrong State ;)

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[BisonHorns]

I am super excited for this game. The bears have some really good stats and I want to see how we match up to them. This may be the best bears teams we've seen.

[Hammerhead]

I just read that they're trying to cook up a thing where they collectively shake their keys on 3rd down.

Adorbs.

Some of us drive fancy vehicles with key fobs so our keys don't really jingle too much. :)

[StL Bison Fan]

IIRC, most of the Bison tailgaters were in Lot 24 two years ago. Is that where folks are planning to be Saturday?

24 is where we have been. No need to change now I guess. What is the weather prediction? Just got back from StL and the evenings were chilly but the days were nice.

[Bisonator98]

Just don't.........Jerk and Drive!!!


Oops wrong State ;)

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Jack Attack!:hide:

[DakotaOkie]

24 is where we have been. No need to change now I guess. What is the weather prediction? Just got back from StL and the evenings were chilly but the days were nice.

Forecast is sunny with high of 70, low in the 40's. Light winds of 10 mph. Perfect football weather!

[MrSnuffleupagus]

Forecast is sunny with high of 70, low in the 40's. Light winds of 10 mph. Perfect football weather!

If this wind is coming from the north, just remember...Iowa is north of Missouri.

[DakotaOkie]

If this wind is coming from the north, just remember...Iowa is north of Missouri.

Truuue...but, Springfield is nearly in Arkansas. Even Iowa aromas can't get that far south.

[56BISON73]

What ESPN channel is the game on?

[Vet70]

what espn channel is the game on?

espn 3-------

[Christopher Moen]

What ESPN channel is the game on?

Just the online version (so far) ESPN3. Hopefully it will be picked up by ESPN College Extra. Here's the ESPN College Extra schedule website: http://www.espn.com/espncollegeextra/#schedule

[HerdBot]

Here is a good listen on Missouri State

Springfield News-Leader Writer Jim Connell on Bison 1660 AM today (or 92.7 too)
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/springfield-news-leader-writer-jim-connell-oct-6-2016

[CAS4127]

MSU coach is saying we "aren't a challenge, KSU was a challenge. We can compete with them. No S on our jerseys, just numbers."

Starting center saying "if we think we can out-physical him them."

DT saying similar things.

Chalkboard material.


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[Bison 4 Life]

MSU coach is saying we "aren't a challenge, KSU was a challenge. We can compete with them. No S on our jerseys, just numbers."

Starting center saying "if we think we can out-physical him them."

DT saying similar things.

Chalkboard material.


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[StecMSU]

MSU coach is saying we "aren't a challenge, KSU was a challenge. We can compete with them. No S on our jerseys, just numbers."

Starting center saying "if we think we can out-physical him them."

DT saying similar things.

Chalkboard material.


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The difference this year is that we have a team that can back up the talk for the first time in many, many years.

NDSU should expect a fight for four quarters tomorrow.

[StecMSU]

Bison win 41-7

:cheers:

In your dreams. This one will be very close.

[THEsocalledfan]

The difference this year is that we have a team that can back up the talk for the first time in many, many years.

NDSU should expect a fight for four quarters tomorrow.

There is no doubt your team is better; no one would argue that.

But before you get carried away, remember who you played. The non biased Sagarin ranking, which has all your success considered, but could have a little bit of lingering stuff from last year (but probably not much at this point), has you as a 24 points dog and I think that is about right.

I think NDSU wins by 20. No, the game will be over in the 4th quarter.

[Bison 4 Life]

The difference this year is that we have a team that can back up the talk for the first time in many, many years.

NDSU should expect a fight for four quarters tomorrow.

One win against a suspect ISUb team and you think you're a contender.

Cute.

[ZHerd]

I think this is the fastest I've ever witnessed a program go from horrible to cocky. They almost sound a bit like JSU

[Bison 4 Life]

I think this is the fastest I've ever witnessed a program go from horrible to cocky. They almost sound a bit like JSU

and they're going to get the same treatment.

[StecMSU]

One win against a suspect ISUb team and you think you're a contender.

Cute.

Contender is an overstatement. But I would say if we can improve this much in one year, imagine where we could be at in 3-4 years.

When Terry Allen was in Springfield, we were like most everyone else in the Missouri Valley. We'd see the Bison helmets during pregame warmups and we were already beat. That's not the case with Stec and his coaching staff. We aren't going to be overawed. You may still beat us, but I guarantee that your boys will be sore on Sunday and know they played a tough, physical opponent.

[ZHerd]

and they're going to get the same treatment.

I'm down with it...makes the game more exciting

[Bison 4 Life]

Contender is an overstatement. But I would say if we can improve this much in one year, imagine where we could be at in 3-4 years.

When Terry Allen was in Springfield, we were like most everyone else in the Missouri Valley. We'd see the Bison helmets during pregame warmups and we were already beat. That's not the case with Stec and his coaching staff. We aren't going to be overawed. You may still beat us, but I guarantee that your boys will be sore on Sunday and know they played a tough, physical opponent.

Spoiler alert, it's the Missouri Valley. We set the standard for physical play.

[ndsubison1]

MSU coach is saying we "aren't a challenge, KSU was a challenge. We can compete with them. No S on our jerseys, just numbers."

Starting center saying "if we think we can out-physical him them."

DT saying similar things.

Chalkboard material.


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Not many teams out physical us. At same time, I wouldn't be surprised if we had a letdown game tomorrow

[steelbison]

The difference this year is that we have a team that can back up the talk for the first time in many, many years.

NDSU should expect a fight for four quarters tomorrow.

This is funny shit!!!!!!!!!

A team who gets beat 35-0 by K state and barely beats a god awful Murray State team thinks they can play with us? LMAO!!



Think of this..we might be better than K State!! So where does that leave you? Honestly our scout team could beat Murray State..No lie!!

[thebootfitter]

Contender is an overstatement. But I would say if we can improve this much in one year, imagine where we could be at in 3-4 years.

When Terry Allen was in Springfield, we were like most everyone else in the Missouri Valley. We'd see the Bison helmets during pregame warmups and we were already beat. That's not the case with Stec and his coaching staff. We aren't going to be overawed. You may still beat us, but I guarantee that your boys will be sore on Sunday and know they played a tough, physical opponent.
If you can play the Bison tough for four quarters, then "contender" probably isn't an overstatement. If you think contender is an overstatement, then you may not be able to play the Bison tough for four quarters.

Regarding the comment about being sore... that's pretty much every team in the Valley. Well, maybe in prior years not Misery State, but this year it may include y'all too, the way things are looking!

[Bison 4 Life]

Not many teams out physical us. At same time, I wouldn't be surprised if we had a letdown game tomorrow

I would. The bye week actually came at a really good time. Usually if it would have happened after ISUr instead of after, this would be a letdown.

[steelbison]

Contender is an overstatement. But I would say if we can improve this much in one year, imagine where we could be at in 3-4 years.

When Terry Allen was in Springfield, we were like most everyone else in the Missouri Valley. We'd see the Bison helmets during pregame warmups and we were already beat. That's not the case with Stec and his coaching staff. We aren't going to be overawed. You may still beat us, but I guarantee that your boys will be sore on Sunday and know they played a tough, physical opponent.

Like that beat down we gave you last year..That was coach Stec right? LOL your team quit last year...you might want to go back and watch the game..they stopped trying..it was embarrassing!!

[ZHerd]

Not many teams out physical us. At same time, I wouldn't be surprised if we had a letdown game tomorrow

That actually wouldn't surprise me either. Their comments might actually somewhat decrease that possibility. I've never understood teams that talk or stick their chests out a little before playing NDSU. Why do something to help the best team in the history of the subdivision. It's just stupid. NDSU has won 5 straight titles, and pounds the snot out of P5 teams in front of their horrified fans yet NDSU players and coaches NEVER talk or chest thump

[StecMSU]

Spoiler alert, it's the Missouri Valley. We set the standard for physical play.

I wouldn't disagree with that. But you don't own a monopoly on physical play either.

I give NDSU props for being the standard bearer of FCS football but just understand that if we skip the typical MVC pregame ritual of bowing down before you and giving Klieman the key to the city of Springfield that we are not being disrespectful.

[ZHerd]

I wouldn't disagree with that. But you don't own a monopoly on physical play either.

I give NDSU props for being the standard bearer of FCS football but just understand that if we skip the typical MVC pregame ritual of bowing down before you and giving Klieman the key to the city of Springfield that we are not being disrespectful.

Enjoy making a point of not doing what no one else does either

[TransAmBison]

I wouldn't disagree with that. But you don't own a monopoly on physical play either.

I give NDSU props for being the standard bearer of FCS football but just understand that if we skip the typical MVC pregame ritual of bowing down before you and giving Klieman the key to the city of Springfield that we are not being disrespectful.I like your attitude. Win or lose, stick around after the game for at least the rest of the season...

[Bisonator98]

Contender is an overstatement. But I would say if we can improve this much in one year, imagine where we could be at in 3-4 years.

When Terry Allen was in Springfield, we were like most everyone else in the Missouri Valley. We'd see the Bison helmets during pregame warmups and we were already beat. That's not the case with Stec and his coaching staff. We aren't going to be overawed. You may still beat us, but I guarantee that your boys will be sore on Sunday and know they played a tough, physical opponent.

That's funny because Allen was your coach last time you beat us. :rofl:

[bisonp]

I wouldn't disagree with that. But you don't own a monopoly on physical play either.

I give NDSU props for being the standard bearer of FCS football but just understand that if we skip the typical MVC pregame ritual of bowing down before you and giving Klieman the key to the city of Springfield that we are not being disrespectful.

I thought you already gave that away?
http://static-media.fxx.com/img/FX_Networks_-_FXX/308/855/Simpsons_04_09_P4.jpg

[Bison Loaf]

What is this?! Banter from Missouri State? :confused: You mean to tell me that a pulse has been found?

Well, ok then. Nice.

[Bison 4 Life]

I wouldn't disagree with that. But you don't own a monopoly on physical play either.

I give NDSU props for being the standard bearer of FCS football but just understand that if we skip the typical MVC pregame ritual of bowing down before you and giving Klieman the key to the city of Springfield that we are not being disrespectful.

I'm not saying that either. Nobody has to bow down to anyone. Just temper your expectations.

[Christopher Moen]

The difference this year is that we have a team that can back up the talk for the first time in many, many years.

NDSU should expect a fight for four quarters tomorrow.

BDK/Nilknarf back already?

[BlueBisonRock]

It appears meth sales are up in southern Missouri.

[THEsocalledfan]

I particularly liked the post reminding him we might be better than K St. (Sagarin says we are not for the record.) But they do get us at home.....

[Christopher Moen]

This is funny shit!!!!!!!!!

A team who gets beat 35-0 by K state and barely beats a god awful Murray State team thinks they can play with us? LMAO!!



Think of this..we might be better than K State!! So where does that leave you? Honestly our scout team could beat Murray State..No lie!!

They lost to KSU 35-0 without playing the second half due to weather. Similarly, NDSU was beating MSU 41-0 by halftime last year despite the team still recovering from the flu.

This game should be interesting in that it will determine which team improved the most since last year. Will it be the team that was doing the throttling or will it be the team that was throttled into submission?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF-Ym6B01e0

[StecMSU]

I particularly liked the post reminding him we might be better than K St. (Sagarin says we are not for the record.) But they do get us at home.....

I think you guys have similar styles but I'd give the edge to K-State this season for sure. When you got them in 2013 or 2014, that was the perfect storm. I have watched you all out tough Kansas, ISU, and Iowa but I think that K-State game was pretty fluky. Not taking anything away. I am just saying that generally I think you are the better team than Iowa, ISU, and definitely Kansas. I always felt that the K-State win was the exception.

Regardless of all that, we will certainly have our hands full this weekend. I just can't help but think that your team is going to sleepwalk their way through this one though. This is just another game in a long line for NDSU and this is the biggest game at MSU in many years.

[BadlandsBison]

The biggest difference between last year's msu team and this year's msu team is that they have a fan


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[Christopher Moen]

I think you guys have similar styles but I'd give the edge to K-State this season for sure. When you got them in 2013 or 2014, that was the perfect storm. I have watched you all out tough Kansas, ISU, and Iowa but I think that K-State game was pretty fluky. Not taking anything away. I am just saying that generally I think you are the better team than Iowa, ISU, and definitely Kansas. I always felt that the K-State win was the exception.

Regardless of all that, we will certainly have our hands full this weekend. I just can't help but think that your team is going to sleepwalk their way through this one though. This is just another game in a long line for NDSU and this is the biggest game at MSU in many years.

Sorry, USD last season put an end to that for a few years.

[ZHerd]

Sorry, USD last season put an end to that for a few years.

Not really. It's a risk every year and could happen any time this conference season

[Christopher Moen]

Not really. It's a risk every year and could happen any time this conference season

There's a risk of losing, but not a risk of losing because the team didn't take their opponent seriously.

[Snowgoose]

[QUOTE=StecMSU;1159923]I think you guys have similar styles but I'd give the edge to K-State this season for sure. When you got them in 2013 or 2014, that was the perfect storm. I have watched you all out tough Kansas, ISU, and Iowa but I think that K-State game was pretty fluky. Not taking anything away. I am just saying that generally I think you are the better team than Iowa, ISU, and definitely Kansas. I always felt that the K-State win was the exception.

By the way your answer above is like any other FBS answer in that we always catch people at the right time. The problem is it wasn't a perfect storm. In actuality we had more NFL talent on that 2013 team than KSU had. We actually had better players, but I know that is very tough for some to consider that as a possibility.

[ZHerd]

I think you guys have similar styles but I'd give the edge to K-State this season for sure. When you got them in 2013 or 2014, that was the perfect storm. I have watched you all out tough Kansas, ISU, and Iowa but I think that K-State game was pretty fluky. Not taking anything away. I am just saying that generally I think you are the better team than Iowa, ISU, and definitely Kansas. I always felt that the K-State win was the exception.

Regardless of all that, we will certainly have our hands full this weekend. I just can't help but think that your team is going to sleepwalk their way through this one though. This is just another game in a long line for NDSU and this is the biggest game at MSU in many years.

We typically can't sleepwalk through conference games. I'm guessing that we will be in several conference nail-biters. You guys could possibly be one of them. I still feel that the verdict is out on MSU as of now

[Bison 4 Life]

There's a risk of losing, but not a risk of losing because the team didn't take their opponent seriously.

Remember, every loss in the last 2 years can be directly attributable to limitations of an injured quarterback that probably shouldn't have been playing at the given time.

[Bison Loaf]

I think you guys have similar styles but I'd give the edge to K-State this season for sure. When you got them in 2013 or 2014, that was the perfect storm. I have watched you all out tough Kansas, ISU, and Iowa but I think that K-State game was pretty fluky. Not taking anything away. I am just saying that generally I think you are the better team than Iowa, ISU, and definitely Kansas. I always felt that the K-State win was the exception.

Regardless of all that, we will certainly have our hands full this weekend. I just can't help but think that your team is going to sleepwalk their way through this one though. This is just another game in a long line for NDSU and this is the biggest game at MSU in many years.

I'm glad you're here (really) and I think you are showing a lot of spunk in doing so, but..............................

In your own words, you said you would "give the "edge" to K-State (over NDSU) this season for sure", which is fair enough, and I've, generally, got no problem with that assessment. However, if K-State just has an "edge" over us, and K-State beat you 35-0 in half a game..............................tell me again your logic in calling this a 4-quarter game? :confused::confused:

[Christopher Moen]

Remember, every loss in the last 2 years can be directly attributable to limitations of an injured quarterback that probably shouldn't have been playing at the given time.

Yep, and that probably is Wentz's biggest bane in that he's sometimes too competitive to realize that his injuries can be too much for even him to be effective. In regards to the USD lost, I don't feel that Coyotes were too much of an obstacle for the Bison to overcome Wentz's injury (unknown at the time) as a team like UNI and Montana were. I feel there was a bit of a lack of focus in that game last year.

[BisonNation11]

How is this just another game in a long line for NDSU? Outside of the playoffs, doesn't everyone play the same amount of games? It happens to be the next one on the schedule. It's all how any given team approaches the game. If MSU has to make this their biggest game to get up for it, so be it. I wouldn't try and ride that wave though. You'll see an emotional let down that you'll never recover from. I don't like predictions, but I'll go with a 3 score victory for the Bison. They've been reminded enough this week how poor they've done down there in the past for them to take this game lightly.

[Bisonator98]

Remember, every loss in the last 2 years can be directly attributable to limitations of an injured quarterback that probably shouldn't have been playing at the given time.

Lol I don't think that was the reason for those losses. Just sayin.....

[THEsocalledfan]

By the way your answer above is like any other FBS answer in that we always catch people at the right time. The problem is it wasn't a perfect storm. In actuality we had more NFL talent on that 2013 team than KSU had. We actually had better players, but I know that is very tough for some to consider that as a possibility.

Yepper. As I like to say, our BACKUP QB was Carson Wentz. Think about that for a moment......that team was loaded. And if you think the win over K St was "flukey" you know nothing about Bison football.

[Rock]

Getting to be a decent run of flukes though.

[Bison 4 Life]

Lol I don't think that was the reason for those losses. Just sayin.....

Sure, there's an arugment that Carson was limited by some ankle or knee thing that happened against SDSU just before the UNI game that limited him. The high ankle sprain at Montana limited him and the wrist break definitely limited him.

[scottietohottie]

Yepper. As I like to say, our BACKUP QB was Carson Wentz. Think about that for a moment......that team was loaded. And you think it was "flukey" you know nothing about Bison football.

Actually the team was so loaded that our backup qb moved to linebacker because Carson Wentz took his backup qb job.

[scottietohottie]

I'll just be impressed if misery state can get the ball from the center to the qb. That would be an improvement from last year.

[TransAmBison]

Actually the team was so loaded that our backup qb moved to linebacker because Carson Wentz took his backup qb job.Sounds like it should be in the Bison Smack section...A third string Bison qb is good enough to be taken 2nd in the NFL draft.

[Bisonator98]

Sure, there's an arugment that Carson was limited by some ankle or knee thing that happened against SDSU just before the UNI game that limited him. The high ankle sprain at Montana limited him and the wrist break definitely limited him.

It's not the reason we lost those games.

[Rock]

It's not the reason we lost those games.

C'mon man- my therapist said I am getting to a really good place. Let's not regress.

[BisonAccountant44]

Yepper. As I like to say, our BACKUP QB was Carson Wentz. Think about that for a moment......that team was loaded. And if you think the win over K St was "flukey" you know nothing about Bison football.

That last drive was a total fluke. No way could we have legitimately driven 80 yards over 8 1/2 minutes and 16 plays in that heat, on the road, to win a game.

[Bisonator98]

Sorry but my therapist says I'm not even close to a good place. In fact it says I'm not even in the same universe! I don't think it likes me.

[BisonAccountant44]

Regardless of all that, we will certainly have our hands full this weekend. I just can't help but think that your team could sleepwalk their way through this one though and still bitch slap us. This is just another game in a long line where NDSU is playing in their opponents biggest game in many years.

fixed your post

[Bison 4 Life]

I think you guys have similar styles but I'd give the edge to K-State this season for sure. When you got them in 2013 or 2014, that was the perfect storm. I have watched you all out tough Kansas, ISU, and Iowa but I think that K-State game was pretty fluky. Not taking anything away. I am just saying that generally I think you are the better team than Iowa, ISU, and definitely Kansas. I always felt that the K-State win was the exception.

Regardless of all that, we will certainly have our hands full this weekend. I just can't help but think that your team is going to sleepwalk their way through this one though. This is just another game in a long line for NDSU and this is the biggest game at MSU in many years.

and somehow NDSU has won 93.7% of those games. Everybody thinks they're the one.

[Twincitybizon]

I wouldn't disagree with that. But you don't own a monopoly on physical play either.

I give NDSU props for being the standard bearer of FCS football but just understand that if we skip the typical MVC pregame ritual of bowing down before you and giving Klieman the key to the city of Springfield that we are not being disrespectful.

Misery State is to the Missouri Valley what Kentucky is to the SEC. nuff said

[Bison 4 Life]

Honestly if anything thinks Pig Fuck Kansas Community College and Murray State gives you a respectible win record vs. 3 top 10 FCS and a top 15 FBS team, you cray.

[StL Bison Fan]

Honestly if anything thinks Pig Fuck Kansas Community College and Murray State gives you a respectible win record vs. 3 top 10 FCS and a top 15 FBS team, you cray.

Now, I should be insulted by the Murray state comments, but true is true.
I am not going to comment until I know which uniforms they are wearing. White?

[Bison 4 Life]

Now, I should be insulted by the Murray state comments, but true is true.
I am not going to comment until I know which uniforms they are wearing. White?

I was thinking of you as I wrote that.

[ndsubison1]

I think you guys have similar styles but I'd give the edge to K-State this season for sure. When you got them in 2013 or 2014, that was the perfect storm. I have watched you all out tough Kansas, ISU, and Iowa but I think that K-State game was pretty fluky. Not taking anything away. I am just saying that generally I think you are the better team than Iowa, ISU, and definitely Kansas. I always felt that the K-State win was the exception.

Regardless of all that, we will certainly have our hands full this weekend. I just can't help but think that your team is going to sleepwalk their way through this one though. This is just another game in a long line for NDSU and this is the biggest game at MSU in many years.

Not sure how it was a perfect storm. They went 8-5 with a bowl win. Tough to say if theyre better than that season now.

[StecMSU]

I'm glad you're here (really) and I think you are showing a lot of spunk in doing so, but..............................

In your own words, you said you would "give the "edge" to K-State (over NDSU) this season for sure", which is fair enough, and I've, generally, got no problem with that assessment. However, if K-State just has an "edge" over us, and K-State beat you 35-0 in half a game..............................tell me again your logic in calling this a 4-quarter game? :confused::confused:


That's a fair question. I think there were a number of factors.

1. There was massive internal chaos because of the Breck Ruddick situation. Losing your starting QB the day before the game is bad. Having to deal with the fallout due to the reasoning behind the suspension was a gigantic distraction.

2. From talking to people close to the program, we didn't handle the weather delay very well. We were ready to go, then we weren't.

3. The crowd will give us a huge boost tomorrow. Something we didn't have in the Little Apple.

4. We just did not play well at all that day. It could happen again but I feel absolutely certain you will get our best shot tomorrow afternoon.

[Vet70]

That's a fair question. I think there were a number of factors.

1. There was massive internal chaos because of the Breck Ruddick situation. Losing your starting QB the day before the game is bad. Having to deal with the fallout due to the reasoning behind the suspension was a gigantic distraction.

2. From talking to people close to the program, we didn't handle the weather delay very well. We were ready to go, then we weren't.

3. The crowd will give us a huge boost tomorrow. Something we didn't have in the Little Apple.

4. We just did not play well at all that day. It could happen again but I feel absolutely certain you will get our best shot tomorrow afternoon.


Wait until you see how many of the crowd are wearing Bison gear. The question is not whether you will give us your best shot, it is whether it will be good enough. I doubt it.

[thebootfitter]

I think you guys have similar styles but I'd give the edge to K-State this season for sure. When you got them in 2013 or 2014, that was the perfect storm. I have watched you all out tough Kansas, ISU, and Iowa but I think that K-State game was pretty fluky. Not taking anything away. I am just saying that generally I think you are the better team than Iowa, ISU, and definitely Kansas. I always felt that the K-State win was the exception.

Regardless of all that, we will certainly have our hands full this weekend. I just can't help but think that your team is going to sleepwalk their way through this one though. This is just another game in a long line for NDSU and this is the biggest game at MSU in many years.
I'd like to go back to these comments for a moment, but first I also want to thank you for posting and being far more reasonable than some former friends like Nilknarf.

Did you actually watch the K-State/NDSU game from 2013? What about it do you feel was "fluky"? I genuinely would like to hear your thoughts on this.

From my perspective, I've always described it as being not a fluke at all. When you watch the lines and realize that our Rams up front started to wear them down toward the end... just like almost every other team the Bison have played... it doesn't seem very "fluky" at all.

[StecMSU]

I'd like to go back to these comments for a moment, but first I also want to thank you for posting and being far more reasonable than some former friends like Nilknarf.

Did you actually watch the K-State/NDSU game from 2013? What about it do you feel was "fluky"? I genuinely would like to hear your thoughts on this.

From my perspective, I've always described it as being not a fluke at all. When you watch the lines and realize that our Rams up front started to wear them down toward the end... just like almost every other team the Bison have played... it doesn't seem very "fluky" at all.

I remember being at a bar and watching the game on television since it was a Friday night game and I was interested to see if your team could beat K-State. I have to concede that I was pretty drunk that night though. And I am a huge fan of Coach Snyder so I could be biased in my recollections. Someone mentioned some 7 minute drive or something in the 4th quarter. I need to go back and rewatch the game, I have no memory of that at all.

[semobison]

Remember, every loss in the last 2 years can be directly attributable to limitations of an injured quarterback that probably shouldn't have been playing at the given time.

Come on man! We don't make excuses. I give this Bears fan credit. He believes, and the players, they believe. Doesn't mean they can beat us but it's progress. The fact is there has really only been one game against MSU that has been over at the half and that was last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they hang around for a while.

[GreenfieldBison]

I remember being at a bar and watching the game on television since it was a Friday night game and I was interested to see if your team could beat K-State. I have to concede that I was pretty drunk that night though. And I am a huge fan of Coach Snyder so I could be biased in my recollections. Someone mentioned some 7 minute drive or something in the 4th quarter. I need to go back and rewatch the game, I have no memory of that at all.

Really no need to go back and review. You're very likely to see one of those in real time tomorrow.


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[DakotaOkie]

This is funny shit!!!!!!!!!

A team who gets beat 35-0 by K state and barely beats a god awful Murray State team thinks they can play with us? LMAO!!



Think of this..we might be better than K State!! So where does that leave you? Honestly our scout team could beat Murray State..No lie!!


35- 0 and the game at K-State was called off at half time. Good god. Win a couple of games against an NAIA team and some other bottom feeders and now they are contenders?? No doubt Mo-state is improved over last year but, really...

[Vet70]

35- 0 and the game at K-State was called off at half time. Good god. Win a couple of games against an NAIA team and some other bottom feeders and now they are contenders?? No doubt Mo-state is improved over last year but, really...

Once more a team that just ran out of time.

[thebootfitter]

I remember being at a bar and watching the game on television since it was a Friday night game and I was interested to see if your team could beat K-State. I have to concede that I was pretty drunk that night though. And I am a huge fan of Coach Snyder so I could be biased in my recollections. Someone mentioned some 7 minute drive or something in the 4th quarter. I need to go back and rewatch the game, I have no memory of that at all.
Yeah, I think you'll change your assessment if you re-watch the game sober.

[HerdBot]

Remember if your traveling to Missouri, download the Bison 1660 mobile App. You can actually listen to the live Bison pregame and postgame show on it. Plus it's nice to have some podcasts to listen to on a boring drive.

[BisoninNWMN]

Bison 38-9 and I'm being conservative on the Bison points!

[Christopher Moen]

My prediction is 41-17 and we see a lot of action from our younger players before the fourth quarter begins.

[Jay]

My prediction is 41-17 and we see a lot of action from our younger players before the fourth quarter begins.

Like your score prediction. But we rarely play younger players minus very late.

[Bison 4 Life]

Remember if your traveling to Missouri, download the Bison 1660 mobile App. You can actually listen to the live Bison pregame and postgame show on it. Plus it's nice to have some podcasts to listen to on a boring drive.

If I'm not in that parking lot drinking a beer before the pregame starts, something has gone terribly wrong.

[Bison Bridge Guy]

Like your score prediction. But we rarely play younger players minus very late.

3 of 4 games ended on the last play of the game so far this year.

[Christopher Moen]

Like your score prediction. But we rarely play younger players minus very late.

Last year, Cole Davis took over the reins with what I believe was 10 minutes left in the third quarter.

Of course, our defensive backfield is full of youngsters, so they'll probably be in all day, but rotating a lot.

[Jay]

3 of 4 games ended on the last play of the game so far this year.

Thanks. Hadn't watched any games.

[PlainsBison]

Today (6:30 p.m.) in Bismarck, I was driving by the west I94 exit. Looked towards the gas station. Saw a NDSU tailgating trailer being pulled by a black Suburban or Tahoe. Drive is 13.5 hours which would put them in at 8:00 a.m. Tomorrow. I wonder is they were actually going that direction. Dang, should have ridden with them.

[Bison Bridge Guy]

Thanks. Hadn't watched any games.

So it would appear.

For serious though, I think Klieman has been a little better about this than Bohl was. But we've had a lot of youth as starters lately too.

[CAS4127]

Last year, Cole Davis took over the reins with what I believe was 10 minutes left in the third quarter.

Of course, our defensive backfield is full of youngsters, so they'll probably be in all day, but rotating a lot.

I'd like to see Davis get some meaningful snaps actually.


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[bri-dog]

I'd like to see Davis get some meaningful snaps actually.


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Especially since he grew up less than 200 miles from Springfield. Probably lots of family there.

[oldmantutters]

Give him the first series!

On second thought that would take away from Easton's potential record. Give Easton the start, Davis second series. Or impose our will, be up 5+ scores at half and give him the second half and don't let off the gas peddle.

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[THEsocalledfan]

Cocky guys back yet?

[56BISON73]

Give him the first series!

On second thought that would take away from Easton's potential record. Give Easton the start, Davis second series. Or impose our will, be up 5+ scores at half and give him the second half and don't let off the gas peddle.

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Neither one is a consideration. You go with your A team period.