AP Poll

[2011BisonAlumni]

Was just released. NDSU received 74 votes. Tied with UCLA for 27th. Iowa received 47 votes.

I believe this is easily a new high for an FCS team.

[Bison 4 Life]

Was just released. NDSU received 74 votes. Tied with UCLA for 27th. Iowa received 47 votes.

I believe this is easily a new high for an FCS team.

points, not votes. there are likely many voters who put NDSU higher than 25

[ndsansa]

We are a little bit ahead of some pretty impressive programs.


TCU 132, UCLA 74, North Dakota State 74, Boise State 69, Iowa 47, California 44, Oklahoma State 42, Notre Dame 32, Oregon 23, North Carolina 17, Georgia Tech 17, Central Michigan 16, South Florida 7, Western Michigan 6, Toledo 6, Maryland 3, Arizona State 3, Virginia Tech 1.

[A1pigskin]

We are a little bit ahead of some pretty impressive programs.


TCU 132, UCLA 74, North Dakota State 74, Boise State 69, Iowa 47, California 44, Oklahoma State 42, Notre Dame 32, Oregon 23, North Carolina 17, Georgia Tech 17, Central Michigan 16, South Florida 7, Western Michigan 6, Toledo 6, Maryland 3, Arizona State 3, Virginia Tech 1.

Very impressive.

[Sapper6]

I cannot believe TCU has that many after the way SDSU played them and then a loss to Arkansas


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[BisonCountry]

http://i.imgur.com/BLbEoFk.png

[Bison 4 Life]

If my eyes are good enough that's 10 25th place votes, 3 24th, 2 each of 23 and 22, and 1 18th place.

[MontBison]

Lol the dude from Indiana has us at 15 in his poll. Wow

[Bison 4 Life]

Lol the dude from Indiana has us at 15 in his poll. Wow

dang, missed that one. didn't expect that.

[No_Skill]

The guy that has us 18 is from the SEC.

[MNLonghorn10]

I like the cut of Pete Diprimios jib

[NDSU1980]

If my eyes are good enough that's 10 25th place votes, 3 24th, 2 each of 23 and 22, and 1 18th place.

I see two at 21.

[BisonTeacher]

So theoretically, if some teams ahead of us lose and we don't play next week...we move up??? :)

[SC_TX]

So theoretically, if some teams ahead of us lose and we don't play next week...we move up??? :)

This is probably the pinnacle. Voters have the win over Iowa in mind. In a few weeks they won't be paying attention to wins over Illinois State

[td577]

This is probably the pinnacle. Voters have the win over Iowa in mind. In a few weeks they won't be paying attention to wins over Illinois State

This what I was thinking when I saw the poll. If we weren't going to be 25 now, we aren't going to be it later in the season as our schedule is FCS only and most voters will probably not see another NDSU snap unless we are playing in January. I think a replay of the FG is about the only Bison snap most of the voters will ever see of the Bison this year.

[gumby013]

We need Iowa to keep winning for us to move up.

[HandoEX]

Iowa to the playoffs!!!!! 13-1 after the B1G Championship game!!!

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

This has to be salt in the wounds of the halfwits who were trolling the board. OUCH!

[GOBISON123]

Iowa had nothing to be ashamed of. They lost to the Bison , many FBS schools have, this is not an "upset". Iowa should not be punished for playing an FBS caliber team which happens be in the FCS.

[gizmo]

It's the AP's weekly beauty contest among their favorite handful of teams. Don't get too excited.

[Winning is Gr8]

We needed the redbirds to win last week as if they were undefeated and had beat Northwestern that would have helped us as well. If Game Day comes that may give us a boost as well as i am sure they will talk about it and give us a bump.

[wagsabison]

Fun to see us in the mix but in the end it doesn't really matter.

[1993bison]

Fun to see us in the mix but in the end it doesn't really matter.
It does matter. It can not hurt recriuting

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[scottietohottie]

It would be funny if Iowa wins out and doesn't make the playoff because they lost to a little old fcs school.

[gumby013]

We needed the redbirds to win last week as if they were undefeated and had beat Northwestern that would have helped us as well. If Game Day comes that may give us a boost as well as i am sure they will talk about it and give us a bump.

The opponent has not mattered the last two times. It's all about if there is a compelling FBS matchup for them to cover.

[scottietohottie]

The opponent has not mattered the last two times. It's all about if there is a compelling FBS matchup for them to cover.

This gameday just comes to bask in Bison greatness.

[MAKBison]

We needed the redbirds to win last week as if they were undefeated and had beat Northwestern that would have helped us as well. If Game Day comes that may give us a boost as well as i am sure they will talk about it and give us a bump.

I think history shows the opponent does not matter. If CGD comes it is out of respect of 5 NC and what was done this sat.

[bisonfan08]

Considering that our Homecoming matchup against Ill St. was the most likely date for ESPN Gameday to make an appearance in the first place this win pretty much solidifies that if they are coming this season that will be the day. Hope to see them in a couple weeks!

[SomeJsuFan]

RE: the #18 ranking from the SEC guy:
I'll chime in to say that he seems to be from the ATL area, which is a peripheral JSU market. Perhaps he developed a keener awareness of the Bison back in January...

[bri-dog]

I wasn't sure where to put this, so I put it here. I don't think they're giving nearly enough credit, but that's just my opinion...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2016/09/22/north-dakota-state-compare-to-fbs-iowa-acc-big-ten-big-12-pac-12-sec-aac-cusa-mac-mwc-sun-belt/90807122/

[thebootfitter]

I wasn't sure where to put this, so I put it here. I don't think they're giving nearly enough credit, but that's just my opinion...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2016/09/22/north-dakota-state-compare-to-fbs-iowa-acc-big-ten-big-12-pac-12-sec-aac-cusa-mac-mwc-sun-belt/90807122/
Yeah, I didn't follow all their logic, but definitely seems to be a bit biased. Looking at some of the teams in that list ahead of them in each conference, I would be pretty confident that the Bison would beat many of them at least 50% of the time -- even without the additional scholarships and resources.

[bisonboone11]

I wasn't sure where to put this, so I put it here. I don't think they're giving nearly enough credit, but that's just my opinion...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2016/09/22/north-dakota-state-compare-to-fbs-iowa-acc-big-ten-big-12-pac-12-sec-aac-cusa-mac-mwc-sun-belt/90807122/
The rankings seem a bit strange. One example is UNLV would be ranked higher than Iowa...

[VirginiaBison]

I think history shows the opponent does not matter. If CGD comes it is out of respect of 5 NC and what was done this sat.


Hmmmm, maybe but it might be that on occasion the GD folks just need/like to bask in the no-pressure glory and love which they get in Fargo.

[VirginiaBison]

I wasn't sure where to put this, so I put it here. I don't think they're giving nearly enough credit, but that's just my opinion...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2016/09/22/north-dakota-state-compare-to-fbs-iowa-acc-big-ten-big-12-pac-12-sec-aac-cusa-mac-mwc-sun-belt/90807122/

They need one more adjustment to consider.... if NDSU had full FBS scholarships. All the comparisons I have seen have the Bison with FCS scholarships vs FBS numbers. How about equaling it up in these hypotheticals.

[Christopher Moen]

They need one more adjustment to consider.... if NDSU had full FBS scholarships. All the comparisons I have seen have the Bison with FCS scholarships vs FBS numbers. How about equaling it up in these hypotheticals.

Never let facts get in the way of a false argument!!!

[td577]

I wasn't sure where to put this, so I put it here. I don't think they're giving nearly enough credit, but that's just my opinion...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2016/09/22/north-dakota-state-compare-to-fbs-iowa-acc-big-ten-big-12-pac-12-sec-aac-cusa-mac-mwc-sun-belt/90807122/

I don't think Iowa will finish that low. Their metric sucks. Take the funbelt, for example. Not only is App State 1-2 and sure they played Tennessee tough, but they got the shit kicked out of them by Miami who is probably on par with Iowa. Right now, without the extra full scholarships, they are probably easily in the top 10 of G5 schools. I would say top 5, but I don't want to come across too much like a homer. When schools are more connected in Sagarin and the Bison take care of business, they will move up in the computer rankings and are probably a top 40 team. That blows away all of those predictions. Throw in the extra full scholarships and a couple recruiting seasons and they aren't in the bottom third of any of those P5 conferences. I am not saying they win P5 conferences, but they would play competitive football and could legitimately put together teams that could hang around the midway point of almost all the P5 conferences.

I love numbers and they can tell a lot of stories, but football is still a game you have to watch and see with your eyes who passes the test.

[BisonNeil]

Not sure this has been posted, Bruce Feldman thinks NDSU should be in the top 20 AP poll.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/why-north-dakota-state-should-be-ranked-in-the-top-20-092116.amp.html?client=safari

Stewart Mandel, about two thirds of the way down in mailbag, discusses NDSUs changes to move higher.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/mailbag-why-lsu-auburn-could-cost-les-miles-or-gus-malzahn-his-job-092116

[NovaBison]

Week later... havent seen the poll yet but I did see this out of the SEC:

https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/marq-burnett-how-i-voted-in-ap-top-25-following-week-4

[No_Skill]

Week later... havent seen the poll yet but I did see this out of the SEC:

https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/marq-burnett-how-i-voted-in-ap-top-25-following-week-4

He had us at 18 last week. Up to 15 this week.

...interesting.

[No_Skill]

Still out of the top 25. Can't find the ORV yet.

Edit: Lost votes. 58 points #28 in the poll.

[MarkyMark]

Projecting Bison at #21 tomorrow! http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/projecting-top-25-bloodbath/

This one projects Bison at #25 https://www.seccountry.com/sec/ap-poll-projecting-the-ap-top-25-after-week-5

[SC_TX]

I honestly don't see it.

The luster of the Iowa win has worn off. There are FBS teams that will probably jump NDSU. Like Colorado, Maryland, etc

[Christopher Moen]

Projecting Bison at #21 tomorrow! http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/projecting-top-25-bloodbath/

This one projects Bison at #25 https://www.seccountry.com/sec/ap-poll-projecting-the-ap-top-25-after-week-5

That second link had too many mistakes that I stopped reading after #21. Talked about the Badgers when he was suppose to talk about Michigan State and thinks Colorado played Washington State today.


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[MarkyMark]

Look at the (bad) losses today at the back end of the top 25 including #26 Arizona St. losing to USC

No. 17 Michigan State (2-2) lost to Indiana 24-21, OT. Next: vs. BYU, Saturday.
No. 18 Utah (4-1) lost to California 28-23. Next: vs. Arizona, Saturday.
No. 19 San Diego State (3-1) lost to South Alabama 42-14. Next: vs. UNLV, Saturday.
No. 20 Arkansas (4-1) beat Alcorn State 52-10. Next: vs. No. 1 Alabama, Saturday.
No. 21 TCU (3-2) lost to Oklahoma 52-46. Next: at Kansas, Saturday.
No. 22 Texas (2-2) lost to Oklahoma State 49-31. Next: vs. Oklahoma at Dallas, Saturday.
No. 23 Florida (4-1) beat Vanderbilt 13-6. Next: vs. LSU, Saturday.
No. 24 Boise State (3-0) vs. Utah State. Next: at New Mexico, Friday.
No. 25 Georgia (3-2) lost to No. 11 Tennesee 34-31. Next: at South Carolina, Saturday

There is a good chance NDSU will be ranked tomorrow.

[SC_TX]

I honestly don't see it.

The luster of the Iowa win has worn off. There are FBS teams that will probably jump NDSU. Like Colorado, Maryland, etc

West Virginia, North Carolina, Virginia Tech... Etc

[A1pigskin]

If my eyes are good enough that's 10 25th place votes, 3 24th, 2 each of 23 and 22, and 1 18th place.

LOL, I am cross-eyed for life now.

[SoCalBison]

Would be a beautiful thing, I'd love to be wrong about this too, but don't think so.

[North Side]

Iowa lost to NW I think there is no way we are ranked.

[SC_TX]

http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll

Not in. Like I thought, teams like Colorado, West Virginia and Virginia tech got in

[Professor Chaos]

FWIW, even though the Bison's vote total has shrunk once again so did the gap between them and #25. In the Week 4 poll they had 74 points and #25 had 139 (-65). Last week they had 58 points and #5 had 142 (-84). This week they have 46 points and #25 only has 85 (-39). #25 is a really volatile spot though.

[Professor Chaos]

In case anyone cares the Bison dropped another 10 points this week down to 36 points to come in at #31 (which is ahead of preseason #8 Stanford). Somehow Iowa got 3 votes after their uninspiring win at Minnesota (they had none last week).

http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/seasontype/2/year/2016/week/7

[tjbison]

if you look at the individual voters it shows us having a 4-2 record, i didnt get thru all but i seen some had NDSU up to 22

[BYZEN]

if you look at the individual voters it shows us having a 4-2 record, i didnt get thru all but i seen some had NDSU up to 22
F'Awkers!.

[stevdock]

if you look at the individual voters it shows us having a 4-2 record, i didnt get thru all but i seen some had NDSU up to 22

http://collegepolltracker.com/football/

Interesting site as it shows that someone has us at 17 and 11 overall have us in their top 25.

[Professor Chaos]

http://collegepolltracker.com/football/

Interesting site as it shows that someone has us at 17 and 11 overall have us in their top 25.
That is pretty cool. Here's the link to the breakdown of all the voters with NDSU in their polls: http://collegepolltracker.com/football/team/ndsu/2016.

It also shows previous weeks so you can see who's dropping NDSU lower or completely off their ballots. Interesting that Josh Kendall (South Carolina voter) had them at #18 last week and took them completely off this week. :confused:

[VirginiaBison]

Is NDSU being confused with _ND by voters?

[southcliffbison]

Is NDSU being confused with _ND by voters?

Can't be !!!! Voters know there is only one D1 team in North Dakota.

[bloodmakesthegrassgrow]

Can't be !!!! Voters know there is only one D1 team in North Dakota.

Doubtful, with the Sioux rolling people.

[SC_TX]

It'll be interesting to see if pollsters pay any attention to FCS this week. If NDSU still gets votes, we know they don't

[gizmo]

In case anyone cares the Bison dropped another 10 points this week down to 36 points to come in at #31 (which is ahead of preseason #8 Stanford). Somehow Iowa got 3 votes after their uninspiring win at Minnesota (they had none last week).

http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1/seasontype/2/year/2016/week/7

Great news for the Hawkeyes. Looks like they are a shoo-in for the WeSuckToo Bowl.