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Christopher Moen
08-03-2016, 05:37 PM
FYI.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2016-08-03/college-football-need-know-rule-changes-2016-season?cid=ncaafcssocial_fb_sf32414437

bisonaudit
08-03-2016, 05:48 PM
I see there's a Bo Pelini rule now.

gumby013
08-03-2016, 05:51 PM
I see there's a Bo Pelini rule now.

I encourage everyone to attempt to set off Mt. Pelini.

StL Bison Fan
08-03-2016, 06:08 PM
I encourage everyone to attempt to set off Mt. Pelini.

Not really a big challenge is it?

gumby013
08-03-2016, 06:13 PM
Not really a big challenge is it?

The fun is in the journey.

Mr Meaty
08-03-2016, 06:14 PM
I was watching the CFL the other night (sorry for thread drift). A player had a cramp and they stopped the clock for his "injury" late in the game. The guys doing the game mentioned that was a back time to get hurt because he now had to sit out the next THREE plays. I was surprised by that rule (if I heard him correctly). I think this is a rule that both college and NFL should be in with an exception of the QB. That position would still only sit out one play. How many teams pull this crap on us during the season and how many times on any given sunday in the NFL. I like this rule.

NDSUSR
08-03-2016, 06:30 PM
I was watching the CFL the other night (sorry for thread drift). A player had a cramp and they stopped the clock for his "injury" late in the game. The guys doing the game mentioned that was a back time to get hurt because he now had to sit out the next THREE plays. I was surprised by that rule (if I heard him correctly). I think this is a rule that both college and NFL should be in with an exception of the QB. That position would still only sit out one play. How many teams pull this crap on us during the season and how many times on any given sunday in the NFL. I like this rule.

Watch Bender in the JSU game. Walking fine, looks at the bench and falls down. Its was pretty bad acting.

Mr Meaty
08-03-2016, 06:37 PM
Watch Bender in the JSU game. Walking fine, looks at the bench and falls down. Its was pretty bad acting.

Exactly!!! that was one of the worst for the year.

natstar1
08-03-2016, 06:54 PM
Approved Rule Changes thread (http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?36890-Approved-Rule-Changes)

ndsubison1
08-03-2016, 06:56 PM
Some rules (current ones as well) are so wordy and confusing that I don't even know what it conveys

Christopher Moen
08-03-2016, 07:08 PM
Some rules (current ones as well) are so wordy and confusing that I don't even know what it conveys

Go to love legalese.

HerdBot
08-23-2016, 03:13 AM
Some rules (current ones as well) are so wordy and confusing that I don't even know what it conveys

Trying to figure out the cut block rule. Sounds like a lead blocker can cut a tackler as long as the ball carrier crosses the LOS and they block them head on. I thought that was the rule anyways.

Confused on the QB hits rule too. I would assume that's not applicable when he's outside the pocket? Wasn't that the rule anyways?

IndyBison
08-24-2016, 03:45 AM
Trying to figure out the cut block rule. Sounds like a lead blocker can cut a tackler as long as the ball carrier crosses the LOS and they block them head on. I thought that was the rule anyways.

Confused on the QB hits rule too. I would assume that's not applicable when he's outside the pocket? Wasn't that the rule anyways?

That situation didn't really change much. Some key changes are wideouts and backs outside the tackle box have to keep their blocks from the front (not side) at all times (lineman have some ability for low blocks from the side in the tackle box). Those same players though can't block low back toward the middle of the field until the play has "developed". That is defined as the runner has gone beyond the LOS. That's probably what you are hearing. The last part is trying to eliminate the crack back block if you know that terminology. There is a little more to it, but if you keep it in the front of the defender and you aren't going back toward the middle of the field, you are usually OK.

HerdBot
08-24-2016, 01:02 PM
That situation didn't really change much. Some key changes are wideouts and backs outside the tackle box have to keep their blocks from the front (not side) at all times (lineman have some ability for low blocks from the side in the tackle box). Those same players though can't block low back toward the middle of the field until the play has "developed". That is defined as the runner has gone beyond the LOS. That's probably what you are hearing. The last part is trying to eliminate the crack back block if you know that terminology. There is a little more to it, but if you keep it in the front of the defender and you aren't going back toward the middle of the field, you are usually OK.

I was listening to Bison 1660 and they said the says of a cut block are gone. They must have misunderstood it too. Glad to hear they are not. One of my favorite plays ever was the playoff game vs Coastal when Crockett runs
OT and the lead blocker Jedre Cyr destroyed the tackler with a cut rolled and runs down the field with Crockett to block another guy.

IndyBison
08-24-2016, 02:10 PM
I was listening to Bison 1660 and they said the says of a cut block are gone. They must have misunderstood it too. Glad to hear they are not. One of my favorite plays ever was the playoff game vs Coastal when Crockett runs
OT and the lead blocker Jedre Cyr destroyed the tackler with a cut rolled and runs down the field with Crockett to block another guy.

If I have taught you nothing else you should know to never listen to announcers for rules knowledge. Coaches and players are close behind and depends on how much they learned from announcers. In general a lead blocker can still cut as long as it's from the front (think 10 to 2 on a clock) on a play that doesn't involve a kick or after a change of possession. The two exceptions are the players who were outside the tackle box and came back to the middle of the field before the runner crosses the neutral zone or back toward your own goal line once the ball leaves the tackle box. Neither of those would likely involve a lead blocker. Prior to this rule change an OL could cut a LB from the front or side (9 to 3 on a clock). Now that block has to be 10 to 2 if it's beyond the neutral zone.

For comparison sake in HS, low blocks are only allowed by OL against DL in a box 8 yards wide and 6 yards deep on either side of the ball at the snap and while the ball is still in that zone (known as the free blocking zone). The ball generally leaves that zone fairly quickly on most plays so it you aren't cutting at the snap, it's likely illegal. I wouldn't be surprised to see college football move closer to that rule. I know the NCAA rules editor would like that, but he has to rely on the rules committee (made up of coaches and administrators) to make that change.