Klieman signs a 6-year contract

[BisonFanAnn]

Looks like Coach K doesn't plan to go anywhere soon!

http://gobison.com/news/2016/4/22/football-klieman-signs-six-year-contract-with-ndsu-through-2021-season.aspx

[Bison 4 Life]

I'll bet that came with a little bump somewhere.

[IBleedYellow]

Cya coach!

Thanks for getting us a bigger buyout clause in your contract!

[No_Skill]

When does coach Bohl's contract run out again?

[Bison 4 Life]

I could see Klieman doing either. He's young so he might try to jump to another opportunity but where are you going to have this much support and comfort in a position? You can make enough money to have a very nice living in Fargo or would you go to Oxford, Ohio for twice as much?

I mean, if you get a FBS job it's because the last guy got fired.

[NDSUBowler]

I could see Klieman doing either. He's young so he might try to jump to another opportunity but where are you going to have this much support and comfort in a position? You can make enough money to have a very nice living in Fargo or would you go to Oxford, Ohio for twice as much?

I mean, if you get a FBS job it's because the last guy got fired.
Or it means the coach ran such a successful program that he left for a better job higher up the FBS ranks...

[IBleedYellow]

When schools start throwing millions of dollars, that's retirement money, and then never having to work another day in his life.

You can't just walk away from money like that.

[BYZEN]

Nice bit in ESPN ...

http://espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=15304029

[bisonp]

This time is different guys. I don't think it's any coincidence the videoboard bids came in yesterday. Bohl never had that.

[Bison bison]

Seriously?

[Professor Chaos]

One pretty amazing stat from that GoBison release is that NDSU is 17-2 against FCS top 25 teams under Klieman (I'm assuming they're using the FCS coaches poll). That's amazing considering he's only coached 31 games for NDSU. Throw in the FBS game and that means 20 of the 31 games he's coaches have been against FCS top 25 caliber opponents. They definitely haven't taken the easy route his first two years.

[BlueHawkAlumni]

I'll bet that came with a little bump somewhere.

i don't think coach k does drugs

[BlueHawkAlumni]

Looks like Coach K doesn't plan to go anywhere soon!

http://gobison.com/news/2016/4/22/football-klieman-signs-six-year-contract-with-ndsu-through-2021-season.aspx

All this guarantees is a future contract buyout.

[HerdBot]

Super happy for coach but I hope Matt Larson has a plan B in place. Need to make sure we have a pipeline of former or current coaches to keep our systems in place. Kind of like when we went from Wacker to Morton to Solomonson to Rocky. Our biggest screw up was hiring Babich who totally changed all our systems and the teams sucked because of it. (And a few other factors of course)

[BlueHawkAlumni]

did you know babich is at the chargers? how in the hell...

[ndsubison1]

Looks like Coach K doesn't plan to go anywhere soon!

http://gobison.com/news/2016/4/22/football-klieman-signs-six-year-contract-with-ndsu-through-2021-season.aspx

A team can snatch him up at any point

[Bison 4 Life]

Why does every one of these thread devolve into "CK is leaving"?

[Vet70]

Why does every one of these thread devolve into "CK is leaving"?

Because we want him to stay, but chances are eventually he will leave.

[ndsubison1]

Why does every one of these thread devolve into "CK is leaving"?

Who said hes leaving?

[Bison bison]

I say we fire him before he gets a chance to leave.

[MHDBisonfan]

One pretty amazing stat from that GoBison release is that NDSU is 17-2 against FCS top 25 teams under Klieman (I'm assuming they're using the FCS coaches poll). That's amazing considering he's only coached 31 games for NDSU. Throw in the FBS game and that means 20 of the 31 games he's coaches have been against FCS top 25 caliber opponents. They definitely haven't taken the easy route his first two years.

This is a great stat right here - pretty impressive

[No_Skill]

I say we fire him before he gets a chance to leave.

I like how you think. Be proactive rather than reactive.

[1998braves64]

My guess he got new raise structure but NDSU added higher buyout clauses, which will be pretty much the norm until someone decides they want him bad enough to pay the buyout clause. Didn't Wyoming pay for Bohl's buyout, remember he renewed to a 6 year or something contract just prior to that last season too which made some of us kind of think he was possibly interested in sticking around long term as he'd been there for 7-8 years already? These extensions only allow the coach to tell the kids they're recruiting that I'm contracted for 6 years, doesn't mean he'll be around that long.

[Professor Chaos]

My guess he got new raise structure but NDSU added higher buyout clauses, which will be pretty much the norm until someone decides they want him bad enough to pay the buyout clause. Didn't Wyoming pay for Bohl's buyout, remember he renewed to a 6 year or something contract just prior to that last season too which made some of us kind of think he was possibly interested in sticking around long term as he'd been there for 7-8 years already? These extensions only allow the coach to tell the kids they're recruiting that I'm contracted for 6 years, doesn't mean he'll be around that long.
If I recall correctly, the buyout for Bohl's contract was different for P5 and non-P5 (or might've been considered BCS and non-BCS at the time) and the buyout for non-P5 was pretty trivial like 100K whereas the buyout for a P5 was much larger.

[HerdBot]

If I recall correctly, the buyout for Bohl's contract was different for P5 and non-P5 (or might've been considered BCS and non-BCS at the time) and the buyout for non-P5 was pretty trivial like 100K whereas the buyout for a P5 was much larger.

Klieman's old contact had a $320,000 buyout until January of 2017. It would be reduced to $150,000 yearly after wards. I would imagine the buyout went up again post January 2017. This is a way to fend off the lower end FBS teams. I would imagine the P5 teams could pay off that buyout and more.

[JMB]

Nice bit in ESPN ...

http://espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=15304029

It was interesting to see the news go across the bottom of the screen "news scroll" on ESPN 2 over lunch. Who woulda thought an NDSU coach signing an extension would warrant any note on ESPN.

[EndZoneQB]

Nice bit in ESPN ...

http://espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=15304029

That's actually from STATS. just picked up on ESPN on their wire.

[aces1180]

He's making bank...

http://www.inforum.com/sports/4015655-pdf-heres-details-chris-kliemans-new-contract-ndsu

[NDSUBowler]

How much did Bohl make at NDSU when he left?

Klieman's Year 1 Salary looks like:
300k annual
50k bonuses
25k appearance fee
65k media appearance

=440k


No provision for portion of ticket sales or anything else that I could find.

[NDSUBowler]

That puts him 110th of 127 in the FBS according to 2015 compensation.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

EDIT: Lowest FBS is Kansas at 800k

[Professor Chaos]

Doesn't look like his buyout changed much at all. It's still $300K through 1/17/2017 and $150K thereafter until the end of the contract.

[Vet70]

How much did Bohl make at NDSU when he left?

Klieman's Year 1 Salary looks like:
300k annual
50k bonuses
25k appearance fee
65k media appearance

=440k


No provision for portion of ticket sales or anything else that I could find.

He is worth every penny.

[BisonFanAnn]

He is worth every penny.

Yep - he has been nothing but a class act every time he gets in front of a camera or a microphone. Not only is a great coach, apparently well liked and respected by his players and staff, he is a fantastic representative of the University and the community.

[A1pigskin]

I am happy for Coach K. Time to kick some more ass.

[bisonaudit]

There's an extra year that kicks in if both Bresciani and Larsen leave. Kind of a poison pill in the event a new regime wants to bring in their own guy.

[HerdBot]

That puts him 110th of 127 in the FBS according to 2015 compensation.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

EDIT: Lowest FBS is Kansas at 800k

At least we know he won't be leaving for a Mac, Sunbelt, or Conference USA job. Were in the same ballpark.

But hey making 400k without bonuses is a great step. It's a stepping stone to get us competitive with Mountain West type schools.

[JJones]

Somewhat interesting is Kliemans increase plus incentives amount to as much as other Head coaches annual salaries are. Not saying that is bad but it is what it is.

[HerdBot]

Somewhat interesting is Kliemans increase plus incentives amount to as much as other Head coaches annual salaries are. Not saying that is bad but it is what it is.

75k to do the same is a heck of a raise. Of course his job doing tv shows and radio stuff is a big job. That's something thr other coaches don't do nearly as much. Would like to continue to see our awesome coaches get paid well.

I know our assistant coaches are paid very good for the FCS

[Rock]

Somewhat interesting is Kliemans increase plus incentives amount to as much as other Head coaches annual salaries are. Not saying that is bad but it is what it is.

NDSU didn't get to where they are doing what others do. Team first goes for coaches too.

[BYZEN]

He's still not the highest paid coach in FCS. Hello, not even in the MVFC.

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2015/10/1020-pelini-ap.jpg

[southcliffbison]

He's still not the highest paid coach in FCS. Hello, not even in the MVFC.

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2015/10/1020-pelini-ap.jpg

It's not YSU paying him, it's the Huskers. Just a FYI.

[BisonTeacher]

So Glad Klieman is our coach. Everyone was concered when Bohl left and we owe him a huge debt for what he did for the program...but things worked out for the best.

[Schrute]

Cya coach!

Thanks for getting us a bigger buyout clause in your contract!

? Seriously? :facepalm:

[ByeSonBusiness]

He's still not the highest paid coach in FCS. Hello, not even in the MVFC.

http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2015/10/1020-pelini-ap.jpg

Lol wrong love it

[Vet70]

For The Valley And The Rest:
http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Bill-Murray-Deal-with-It.gif

[tjbison]

This man is just a pure class act, If you are not listening to his Weekly Presser, make sure you do.


Love this guy, he needs to stay

[Bison bison]

This man is just a pure class act, If you are not listening to his Weekly Presser, make sure you do.


Love this guy, he needs to stay

Good to hear. Can't help but think that he was on the hot seat for the first half against the Bears.

[Twincitybizon]

Good to hear. Can't help but think that he was on the hot seat for the first half against the Bears.

Nomination for most preposterous statement. Hot seat usually refers to a job being in jeopardy. He hasn't lost a game this year. lol

[ndsubison1]

Nomination for most preposterous statement. Hot seat usually refers to a job being in jeopardy. He hasn't lost a game this year. lol

Hes very sarcastic

[Mr Meaty]

This man is just a pure class act, If you are not listening to his Weekly Presser, make sure you do.


Love this guy, he needs to stay

I have heard many players talk about the "bison family" and how the coaches care about them as young men than players some time. You can really get that from Coach K talk and actions. They are not only teaching football to these young men but teaching them to be better people.

[yopaulie]

Good to hear. Can't help but think that he was on the hot seat for the first half against the Bears.

No purple needed

[GreenfieldBison]

Nomination for most preposterous statement. Hot seat usually refers to a job being in jeopardy. He hasn't lost a game this year. lol

Yeah I think Bison bison neglected to change his post font to the proper purple color. Nonetheless I interpreted his comment to be facetious.

Now if he had made that same statement about Tracy Claeys on the other hand... (and of course substitute "first half" with "entire game" and "Bears" with "Hawks".)

[HerdBot]

This man is just a pure class act, If you are not listening to his Weekly Presser, make sure you do.


Love this guy, he needs to stay

He gets the big picture. Super classy and genuinely cares about his players. Oh, and hes a rock star head coach.



Good to hear. Can't help but think that he was on the hot seat for the first half against the Bears.

:rofl: sarcasm obviously


Nomination for most preposterous statement. Hot seat usually refers to a job being in jeopardy. He hasn't lost a game this year. lol

He was being sarcastic obviously

[Bisonator98]

This man is just a pure class act, If you are not listening to his Weekly Presser, make sure you do.


Love this guy, he needs to stay

Yeah this..... I think I got something in my eyes.....

[Twincitybizon]

Unless it's purple I make no assumptions. At times, the depths of bisonville's insanity knows no bounds.

[Trumpster]

Unless it's purple I make no assumptions. At times, the depths of bisonville's insanity knows no bounds.

Sarcasm that is spelled out is the worst kind of sarcasm

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[runtheoption]

Unless it's purple I make no assumptions. At times, the depths of bisonville's insanity knows no bounds. You forgot the purple.

[VirginiaBison]

If you want to play football any school will do; but if you want to LEARN football NDUS is the school for you! Go Coach K and staff.... please keep the kids above $$. It's the future!

[yopaulie]

No purple needed

Nobody noticed my "no need for purple" was in purple. We should put every sarcastic remark in purple.

[CAS4127]

Nobody noticed my "no need for purple" was in purple. We should put every sarcastic remark in purple.

Ummm, that's why we use purple. /purple-purple


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[1998braves64]

Unless it's purple I make no assumptions. At times, the depths of bisonville's insanity knows no bounds.



You get to know peoples personality a bit after you've read 100s if not thousands of their posts.



Sausage=PL

Rainforest=Lakes (RIP)

Rev B0b=TAB

Anything negative = SDbison

Negative farming = Scottie

Lakes support= longhorn

Gameday signs/tickets =fanette

Insider info= road

Logical well supported with facts=Hammersmith

Sarcasm to the nth degree=all ndb posts (shoot forgot he's bison bison, I go by his profile pic though)



Probably a lot more that I can't think of

[HerdBot]

This man is just a pure

[QUOTE=1998braves64;1161237]You get to know peoples personality a bit after you've read 100s if not thousands of their posts.



Sausage=PL

Rainforest=Lakes (RIP)

Rev B0b=TAB

Anything negative = SDbison

Negative farming = Scottie

Lakes support= longhorn

Gameday signs/tickets =fanette

Insider info= road

Logical well supported with facts=Hammersmith

Sarcasm to the nth degree=all ndb posts (shoot forgot he's bison bison, I go by his profile pic though)



Probably a lot more that I can't think of

Tatanka - 10 month mute and media whore at the same time

[runtheoption]

You get to know peoples personality a bit after you've read 100s if not thousands of their posts.



Sausage=PL

Rainforest=Lakes (RIP)

Rev B0b=TAB

Anything negative = SDbison

Negative farming = Scottie

Lakes support= longhorn

Gameday signs/tickets =fanette

Insider info= road

Logical well supported with facts=Hammersmith

Sarcasm to the nth degree=all ndb posts (shoot forgot he's bison bison, I go by his profile pic though)



Probably a lot more that I can't think ofWho is the resident a-hole? If you name anyone but me, you are a dick.

[TransAmBison]

Who is the resident a-hole? If you name anyone but me, you are a dick.Dimwitted a-hole - rto

[1998braves64]

Who is the resident a-hole? If you name anyone but me, you are a dick.

Consider yourself added as the resident A-hole - RTO!

Sausage=PL

Rainforest=Lakes (RIP)

Rev B0b=TAB

Anything negative = SDbison

Negative farming = Scottie

Lakes support= longhorn

Gameday signs/tickets =fanette

Insider info= road

Logical well supported with facts=Hammersmith

Sarcasm to the nth degree=all ndb posts (shoot forgot he's bison bison, I go by his profile pic though)

Resident A-hole = RTO

[Twincitybizon]

Yeah my bad I read more posts on AGS than here so I don't have everybody down yet. Plus all the bison names tend to run together for me at times. On a different note related to the thread I just watched the presser for Monday. Wow. We may rip on the staff and coach K for some things, but I've always been a huge fan of the leader he is and the incredibly high character individual we have. Hope we can hold on to him as long as possible.

[THEsocalledfan]

Anyone ever find the public copy of this contract? Just wondering how much these games are worth, financially, to coach for bonuses.

[Bison 4 Life]

Anyone ever find the public copy of this contract? Just wondering how much these games are worth, financially, to coach for bonuses.

Home games are 5k each

https://www.scribd.com/doc/310113086/Chris-Klieman-s-NDSU-football-contract

Presumably every win means one more game.

[THEsocalledfan]

Home games are 5k each

https://www.scribd.com/doc/310113086/Chris-Klieman-s-NDSU-football-contract

Presumably every win means one more game.

So, just some fun tallying bonuses for this year:

$10k 8 win regular season
$10k MVCF championship
$5K/playoff game, so $10K so far

So $30K so far, and another $5k likely this weekend. Also noted his buyout is down to $150K......chump change if big job comes along.

[Bison 4 Life]

So, just some fun tallying bonuses for this year:

$10k 8 win regular season
$10k MVCF championship
$5K/playoff game, so $10K so far

So $30K so far, and another $5k likely this weekend. Also noted his buyout is down to $150K......chump change if big job comes along.

gets at least 10k for winning this upcoming game.

[THEsocalledfan]

gets at least 10k for winning this upcoming game.

Not counting upcoming payment for Frisco, I am only seeing $5k.

[tjbison]

Not counting upcoming payment for Frisco, I am only seeing $5k.

Lots of Discussion here, should have been moved to this thread

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?37949-x-a-possible-candidate-for-y-job&p=1246043#post1246043

[Bison 4 Life]

Not counting upcoming payment for Frisco, I am only seeing $5k.

10k for championship game loss

15k for a win

[No_Skill]

When I saw this thread bumped, I thought for sure there would be job offer rumors.

[THEsocalledfan]

10k for championship game loss

15k for a win

We are saying the same thing.

[Bison 4 Life]

We are saying the same thing.

sure. It's just broken up a little bit differently in the contract.

The most impressive thing is the incentives for the assistants. I like how we take care of them.

[MAKBison]

renegotiation time?

[Bison 4 Life]

renegotiation time?

Some JMU fans think Mike Houston is worth 750k so I think CK is underpaid.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

Some JMU fans think Mike Houston is worth 750k so I think CK is underpaid.

Gotta love this. Apparently winning one National Championship equates to 'Houston built a dynasty." lol

[imabison]

renegotiation time?

Did anyone catch during to the coaches show, and he was talking about Bison Tradition he
did say and when I leave it will continue. That really does not mean anything but just he does not
intend to stay forever..

[Hammerhead]

Did anyone catch during to the coaches show, and he was talking about Bison Tradition he
did say and when I leave it will continue. That really does not mean anything but just he does not
intend to stay forever..

I think he was just emphasising that NDSU has (and will continue to) win championships under different head coaches.

[THEsocalledfan]

I think he was just emphasising that NDSU has (and will continue to) win championships under different head coaches.

I've heard him say it multiple times, but more this year than ever. Coincidence???????

[Bison 4 Life]

Mike Houston will be gone before Chris Klieman

[TAILG8R]

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard him say that. More this year? I’m not sure about that. It seems he says it every time someone wants to compliment him for a job well done.


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[Herd]

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard him say that. More this year? I’m not sure about that. It seems he says it every time someone wants to compliment him for a job well done.


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A Clear Sign, Yes. A sign that the man is humble.

[MAKBison]

Did anyone catch during to the coaches show, and he was talking about Bison Tradition he
did say and when I leave it will continue. That really does not mean anything but just he does not
intend to stay forever..

yeah, i brought it up back in oct or nov. he has been doing it all season.

[CAS4127]

So CK has been foreshadowing his departure all year?!?? SMFH!!


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[GOBISON123]

CK and his crew will leave for better opportunities, no doubt but first he has to prove that he can win Championship with his recruits. He did it with Coach Bhol recruits but the day he does that with his recruits he is gone.

[56BISON73]

A Clear Sign, Yes. A sign that the man is humble.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This

Hes stated from day one that the culture was there before he got there and it will be there long after he is gone. People need to quit trying to read something in to every thing he says.

[MAKBison]

So CK has been foreshadowing his departure all year?!?? SMFH!!


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got me if that is what he is doing, i just noticed he says it at most every presser

[THEsocalledfan]

In all seriousness, these are mostly guys he recruited at this point, or those he closed on after Bohl left. He wins a title at this point, no one can say "coat tails' or those are Bohl's players, etc. I would not be at all surprised if he is gone in the next 1-2 years. Question is, do we have the next coach on staff right now?

[Professor Chaos]

How does the saying go? You can worry about a coach leaving in one hand and shit in the other....

[CAS4127]

How does the saying go? You can worry about a coach leaving in one hand and shit in the other....

Thank you!


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[bisonp]

How does the saying go? You can worry about a coach leaving in one hand and shit in the other....

I'll start to worry when NDSU coaches aren't in demand. It's possible Klieman could stay like an Eddie Robinson or John Gagliardi but I wouldn't expect him to. I just hope we get one more title from him.

[AKBison]

In all seriousness, these are mostly guys he recruited at this point, or those he closed on after Bohl left. He wins a title at this point, no one can say "coat tails' or those are Bohl's players, etc. I would not be at all surprised if he is gone in the next 1-2 years. Question is, do we have the next coach on staff right now?

No, no we don't. I can think of a couple guys who might be head coach material, but need time to grow in the business. IMO, the next head coach here will be Vigen.

[Bison 4 Life]

No, no we don't. I can think of a couple guys who might be head coach material, but need time to grow in the business. IMO, the next head coach here will be Vigen.

That would be pretty convenient, we already have a thread waiting for him.

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?28686-Fire-vigen-save-season

[Mr. Burgundy]

No, no we don't. I can think of a couple guys who might be head coach material, but need time to grow in the business. IMO, the next head coach here will be Vigen.

I would bet against that, if you are willing.

[wagsabison]

I don't see Vigen leaving the FBS ranks anytime soon.

[Bison 4 Life]

I don't see Vigen leaving the FBS ranks anytime soon.

Yeah. I think he knows he has it good there. He's likely not making a ton but if Bohl gets the right job, he knows he can go with him. Every year a P5 job comes up and Bohl is mentioned. Dunno. Klieman is our coach now and I haven't heard anything to suggest he won't be.

[Christopher Moen]

I would bet against that, if you are willing.

I believe we have the next coach on staff already. There a few candidates, but my personal favorite would be Roehl.

[ndsubison1]

No, no we don't. I can think of a couple guys who might be head coach material, but need time to grow in the business. IMO, the next head coach here will be Vigen.

Polasek...

[tjbison]

I believe we have the next coach on staff already. There a few candidates, but my personal favorite would be Roehl.

Love Tyler, but don't see him as HC yet, still learning IMO. His fire is unmatched though

[NDSUstudent]

I believe we have the next coach on staff already. There a few candidates, but my personal favorite would be Roehl.

In my opinion if you want to be a HC then you need to be a successful coordinator first.

[MankatoBison]

Klieman has said on the coaches show that Matt Entz has aspirations of becoming a head coach one day whether or not that is here or somewhere else remains to be seen.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Entz is the longest tenured coach on staff not named Chris Klieman, correct?

IF Klieman were to bolt tomorrow, I would guess that Matt Entz would be the first interview. I'm sure they would also give Vigen and Polosak and maybe even scotty Hazleton interviews as well.

Any other guys out there I'm missing?

Who would the outsiders be? Bob Nielson? Glen Caruso from St. Thomas haha?

[BattleBorn]

No, no we don't. I can think of a couple guys who might be head coach material, but need time to grow in the business. IMO, the next head coach here will be Vigen.

I heard from someone who claims to be in the know that Vigen wouldn't be brought back given the circumstances regarding his boss' exit. I wouldn't know, has anyone more connected than I heard such things?

[BisonAccountant44]

I heard from someone who claims to be in the know that Vigen wouldn't be brought back given the circumstances regarding his boss' exit. I wouldn't know, has anyone more connected than I heard such things?I've seen that and the exact opposite statement on here. I don't have any knowledge either, but my thought is that unless Pres B has some strong feelings on the matter that it would have more to do with how BV feels he was treated on the way out than anything else. With GT gone and CK being gone, if the position were open, who else would still be here to hold anything against him?

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[GSUsTALON]

Party on NDSU!

[oldmantutters]

Kramer!

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[Christopher Moen]

Kramer!

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He's got the number one need from a head coach mastered - leader of men.

[CalBison97]

Yeah. I think he knows he has it good there. He's likely not making a ton but if Bohl gets the right job, he knows he can go with him. Every year a P5 job comes up and Bohl is mentioned.

I’d be surprised if Bohl is not currently at his final FBS destination.



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[HerdThat!]

Mike Houston signs with JMU for 10 years- sounds like collusion involving the mayor of Frisco wanting JMU/NDSU every year....

http://jmusports.com/news/2017/12/12/mike-houston-signs-10-year-extension-as-head-coach-of-james-madison-football.aspx

[MankatoBison]

Mike Houston signs with JMU for 10 years- sounds like collusion involving the mayor of Frisco wanting JMU/NDSU every year....

http://jmusports.com/news/2017/12/12/mike-houston-signs-10-year-extension-as-head-coach-of-james-madison-football.aspx

0% chance, and I mean ZERO PERCENT chance that he is there until 2027.

If I'm wrong I guess I'll eat my words but we wont find out for another decade haha

[1st&TennBison]

I've seen that and the exact opposite statement on here. I don't have any knowledge either, but my thought is that unless Pres B has some strong feelings on the matter that it would have more to do with how BV feels he was treated on the way out than anything else. With GT gone and CK being gone, if the position were open, who else would still be here to hold anything against him?

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Maybe the guy who sits in section 29 EE seat 16 (totally random seat selection by the way).

[MAKBison]

I've seen that and the exact opposite statement on here. I don't have any knowledge either, but my thought is that unless Pres B has some strong feelings on the matter that it would have more to do with how BV feels he was treated on the way out than anything else. With GT gone and CK being gone, if the position were open, who else would still be here to hold anything against him?

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IDK there were some pretty shitty stunts pulled....does CB take all that stink or did BV get a bit on him...IDK

[1st&TennBison]

IDK there were some pretty shitty stunts pulled....does CB take all that stink or did BV get a bit on him...IDK

I was always under the impression that the CB hiring and his leaving were done as well as it could be. And that nothing was done that was underhanded. If I am incorrect, can someone elaborate a little please. I do know that some fans thought it was shitty of him to leave, but who can blame a guy for wanting to get a pay raise and try to advance his career.

[TAILG8R]

I was always under the impression that the CB hiring and his leaving were done as well as it could be. And that nothing was done that was underhanded. If I am incorrect, can someone elaborate a little please. I do know that some fans thought it was shitty of him to leave, but who can blame a guy for wanting to get a pay raise and try to advance his career.

I think you missed a lot then.

[Answer Guy]

0% chance, and I mean ZERO PERCENT chance that he is there until 2027.

If I'm wrong I guess I'll eat my words but we wont find out for another decade haha

How could you be wrong if it’s 0% chance?

[MAKBison]

I was always under the impression that the CB hiring and his leaving were done as well as it could be. And that nothing was done that was underhanded. If I am incorrect, can someone elaborate a little please. I do know that some fans thought it was shitty of him to leave, but who can blame a guy for wanting to get a pay raise and try to advance his career.

I am not going to regurgitate all of that...its on here if you want to dig, but just think the opposite of what you said and you will be in the ballpark.

[td577]

Maybe the next HC here is Gus Bradley. Kind of a reboot to his career.

[1998braves64]

I was always under the impression that the CB hiring and his leaving were done as well as it could be. And that nothing was done that was underhanded. If I am incorrect, can someone elaborate a little please. I do know that some fans thought it was shitty of him to leave, but who can blame a guy for wanting to get a pay raise and try to advance his career.Kolpack alluded to it in his book also. There is quite a bit of info on the board here but will take some digging.

Sent by my phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

[B. b. bison]

Maybe the next HC here is Gus Bradley. Kind of a reboot to his career.

Any idea what his current salary as DC for the Chargers is? I'm guessing that would be a pretty big pay cut.

[Professor Chaos]

I was always under the impression that the CB hiring and his leaving were done as well as it could be. And that nothing was done that was underhanded. If I am incorrect, can someone elaborate a little please. I do know that some fans thought it was shitty of him to leave, but who can blame a guy for wanting to get a pay raise and try to advance his career.
Actually most of the time it's brought up it seems the answer is "I don't want to get into it" and "go find it". I really don't see why there's any need to send smoke signals about it anymore since it's going on 4 years ago now.

What I've heard is the outgoing Wyoming staff took every bit of recruiting info they had with them so, while they couldn't contact NDSU verbals as per a "handshake agreement" between Taylor and Bohl unless those verbals contacted them first, it left the remaining coaches scrambling trying to ensure that they touched base with all the current verbals and rebuilt their recruiting board for the stretch run of the recruiting season which was not a pleasant experience for Klieman when he was trying to build a coaching staff on top of it at the same time.

Other than that I've heard that the open door policy in the coach's offices quickly became a closed door policy where the coaches leaving for Wyoming and the coaches staying essentially had their own meetings and their own carpools up to Grand Forks (they practiced up at the Alerus some that December since it was before the bubble was around and the dome was occupied). Let's just say the guys staying and the guys leaving weren't exactly on each other's Christmas list.

Why that was is probably a long story but the main reason seems to be that Bohl felt jaded since he thought he had Klieman's word that he was going with him to Wyoming and he thought Klieman reneged on that by staying to take the HC job. From what I've heard from Klieman's perspective he never agreed to go to Wyoming only saying that he'd consider it.

So it was quite the little soap opera. I don't know how much more there was to it but there's probably more than what I mentioned above. In either case I think both Bohl and Klieman and their respective staff's have done well for themselves in the time since and I doubt any of the coaches that stayed or went have much regret about the choice they made.... maybe just a little regret on some bridges burned on the way out.

[MAKBison]

Actually most of the time it's brought up it seems the answer is "I don't want to get into it" and "go find it". I really don't see why there's any need to send smoke signals about it anymore since it's going on 4 years ago now.

What I've heard is the outgoing Wyoming staff took every bit of recruiting info they had with them so, while they couldn't contact NDSU verbals as per a "handshake agreement" between Taylor and Bohl unless those verbals contacted them first, it left the remaining coaches scrambling trying to ensure that they touched base with all the current verbals and rebuilt their recruiting board for the stretch run of the recruiting season which was not a pleasant experience for Klieman when he was trying to build a coaching staff on top of it at the same time.

Other than that I've heard that the open door policy in the coach's offices quickly became a closed door policy where the coaches leaving for Wyoming and the coaches staying essentially had their own meetings and their own carpools up to Grand Forks (they practiced up at the Alerus some that December since it was before the bubble was around and the dome was occupied). Let's just say the guys staying and the guys leaving weren't exactly on each other's Christmas list.

Why that was is probably a long story but the main reason seems to be that Bohl felt jaded since he thought he had Klieman's word that he was going with him to Wyoming and he thought Klieman reneged on that by staying to take the HC job. From what I've heard from Klieman's perspective he never agreed to go to Wyoming only saying that he'd consider it.

So it was quite the little soap opera. I don't know how much more there was to it but there's probably more than what I mentioned above. In either case I think both Bohl and Klieman and their respective staff's have done well for themselves in the time since and I doubt any of the coaches that stayed or went have much regret about the choice they made.... maybe just a little regret on some bridges burned on the way out.

dont forget, the fact there was cowboy recruiting happening on ndsu's dime. but yeah rhe fact they hide the recruiting materials and then treid to snag some of ndsu's gems....they got at rb and cb????

[oldmantutters]

Actually most of the time it's brought up it seems the answer is "I don't want to get into it" and "go find it". I really don't see why there's any need to send smoke signals about it anymore since it's going on 4 years ago now.

What I've heard is the outgoing Wyoming staff took every bit of recruiting info they had with them so, while they couldn't contact NDSU verbals as per a "handshake agreement" between Taylor and Bohl unless those verbals contacted them first, it left the remaining coaches scrambling trying to ensure that they touched base with all the current verbals and rebuilt their recruiting board for the stretch run of the recruiting season which was not a pleasant experience for Klieman when he was trying to build a coaching staff on top of it at the same time.

Other than that I've heard that the open door policy in the coach's offices quickly became a closed door policy where the coaches leaving for Wyoming and the coaches staying essentially had their own meetings and their own carpools up to Grand Forks (they practiced up at the Alerus some that December since it was before the bubble was around and the dome was occupied). Let's just say the guys staying and the guys leaving weren't exactly on each other's Christmas list.

Why that was is probably a long story but the main reason seems to be that Bohl felt jaded since he thought he had Klieman's word that he was going with him to Wyoming and he thought Klieman reneged on that by staying to take the HC job. From what I've heard from Klieman's perspective he never agreed to go to Wyoming only saying that he'd consider it.

So it was quite the little soap opera. I don't know how much more there was to it but there's probably more than what I mentioned above. In either case I think both Bohl and Klieman and their respective staff's have done well for themselves in the time since and I doubt any of the coaches that stayed or went have much regret about the choice they made.... maybe just a little regret on some bridges burned on the way out.Thanks. It's nice to have it summarized like that.

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[wagsabison]

Actually most of the time it's brought up it seems the answer is "I don't want to get into it" and "go find it". I really don't see why there's any need to send smoke signals about it anymore since it's going on 4 years ago now.

What I've heard is the outgoing Wyoming staff took every bit of recruiting info they had with them so, while they couldn't contact NDSU verbals as per a "handshake agreement" between Taylor and Bohl unless those verbals contacted them first, it left the remaining coaches scrambling trying to ensure that they touched base with all the current verbals and rebuilt their recruiting board for the stretch run of the recruiting season which was not a pleasant experience for Klieman when he was trying to build a coaching staff on top of it at the same time.

Other than that I've heard that the open door policy in the coach's offices quickly became a closed door policy where the coaches leaving for Wyoming and the coaches staying essentially had their own meetings and their own carpools up to Grand Forks (they practiced up at the Alerus some that December since it was before the bubble was around and the dome was occupied). Let's just say the guys staying and the guys leaving weren't exactly on each other's Christmas list.

Why that was is probably a long story but the main reason seems to be that Bohl felt jaded since he thought he had Klieman's word that he was going with him to Wyoming and he thought Klieman reneged on that by staying to take the HC job. From what I've heard from Klieman's perspective he never agreed to go to Wyoming only saying that he'd consider it.

So it was quite the little soap opera. I don't know how much more there was to it but there's probably more than what I mentioned above. In either case I think both Bohl and Klieman and their respective staff's have done well for themselves in the time since and I doubt any of the coaches that stayed or went have much regret about the choice they made.... maybe just a little regret on some bridges burned on the way out.

Definitely a tough spot for everyone involved. For a team that makes deep runs in the playoffs continuously I don't know that there is a good way to leave the program. Most of the new hires take place in December from an FBS perspective.

[THEsocalledfan]

Definitely a tough spot for everyone involved. For a team that makes deep runs in the playoffs continuously I don't know that there is a good way to leave the program. Most of the new hires take place in December form an FBS perspective.

And now, Nebraska folks are already ripping on Frost for trying to aid in coaching Central Florida. Bohl was right when he said there was never going to be a good time and now Frost is again showing why.

[DM05]

dont forget, the fact there was cowboy recruiting happening on ndsu's dime. but yeah rhe fact they hide the recruiting materials and then treid to snag some of ndsu's gems....they got at rb and cb????

Can't blame the guy for wanting to move up, but the thing that always bothered me most was how/when the whole thing went down. IIRC, news broke hours after the first playoff game that year and that's how the players found out. Then they had a meeting at the dome Sunday morning. I doubt that's what Bohl wanted, but just the way it came out wasn't optimal.

That and Bohl kept saying his focus was 100% on the 2013 Bison when it was clear his time/effort was being split between the new and old jobs rubbed me the wrong way. You can't say that and interview at Wyoming during a playoff run.

[BattleBorn]

If it's true that recruit paperwork was stolen, that goes well beyond "bad timing," and really leaves a bad taste in my mouth for Bohl and anyone else involved. It's one thing to move up, and quite another to burn the old house down on your way out the door.

[bisonp]

Can't blame the guy for wanting to move up, but the thing that always bothered me most was how/when the whole thing went down. IIRC, news broke hours after the first playoff game that year and that's how the players found out. Then they had a meeting at the dome Sunday morning. I doubt that's what Bohl wanted, but just the way it came out wasn't optimal.

That and Bohl kept saying his focus was 100% on the 2013 Bison when it was clear his time/effort was being split between the new and old jobs rubbed me the wrong way. You can't say that and interview at Wyoming during a playoff run.

I don't know, it certainly took a lot more effort on his part to do that, and I think the team and most fans appreciated it at the time. Everything can look different when you nitpick in hindsight.

[tjbison]

the 2013 team was so good they didnt need coaches

[Bison"FANatic"]

The thing that always rubbed me the wrong way was the way Bohl treated Kleiman and Gene on the way out. Bohl cared about Bohl and not about NDSU. With the way Bohl handled all the recruiting information it is my opinion that if Kleiman had not stayed Bohl would have decimated that NDSU recruiting class. He viewed those players as being committed to him and not to the NDSU Program.

[El_Chapo]

the 2013 team was so good they didnt need coaches

^^^ THIS quit with the BOHL hate... dude built this dynasty!!

[NDSUstudent]

The thing that always rubbed me the wrong way was the way Bohl treated Kleiman and Gene on the way out. Bohl cared about Bohl and not about NDSU. With the way Bohl handled all the recruiting information it is my opinion that if Kleiman had not stayed Bohl would have decimated that NDSU recruiting class. He viewed those players as being committed to him and not to the NDSU Program.

Yeah, I think that was his plan. If he had gotten coach K there would be nobody left to secure our recruits. GT would have had to hire externally, which due to state laws would have taken sometime.

[1998braves64]

The thing that always rubbed me the wrong way was the way Bohl treated Kleiman and Gene on the way out. Bohl cared about Bohl and not about NDSU. With the way Bohl handled all the recruiting information it is my opinion that if Kleiman had not stayed Bohl would have decimated that NDSU recruiting class. He viewed those players as being committed to him and not to the NDSU Program.

From the smoke I've seen I think it centers all around the recruiting information and bringing in recruits that weren't ever going to be at NDSU. And Bohl/Taylor had a rift because speculating Bohl felt gypped by Taylor convincing Klieman to stay. Thankfully for Bison nation this happened otherwise we could have seen an entire recruiting class essentially gone. Wasn't there one of the assistants too that stuck around and helped Klieman? Also keeping Kramer was huge didn't Bohl try to convince him too?

Oddly the whole mistake maybe was having Taylor let the team vote on whether to let Bohl stay, and they did. He probably should have said he's out the door but the assistants had to stay then could do whatever? Not sure that would have worked either. Oddly with all the inside knowledge Grant Olson and Brock Jenson still seem to look up to Bohl a lot too? Grant until this year was a GA in Wyoming...

[Christopher Moen]

From the smoke I've seen I think it centers all around the recruiting information and bringing in recruits that weren't ever going to be at NDSU. And Bohl/Taylor had a rift because speculating Bohl felt gypped by Taylor convincing Klieman to stay. Thankfully for Bison nation this happened otherwise we could have seen an entire recruiting class essentially gone. Wasn't there one of the assistants too that stuck around and helped Klieman? Also keeping Kramer was huge didn't Bohl try to convince him too?

Oddly the whole mistake maybe was having Taylor let the team vote on whether to let Bohl stay, and they did. He probably should have said he's out the door but the assistants had to stay then could do whatever? Not sure that would have worked either. Oddly with all the inside knowledge Grant Olson and Brock Jenson still seem to look up to Bohl a lot too? Grant until this year was a GA in Wyoming...

Nick Goeser has been with NDSU since 2010 and Conor Riley joined the Bison in 2013 - Bohl's final year.

[EndZoneQB]

From the smoke I've seen I think it centers all around the recruiting information and bringing in recruits that weren't ever going to be at NDSU. And Bohl/Taylor had a rift because speculating Bohl felt gypped by Taylor convincing Klieman to stay. Thankfully for Bison nation this happened otherwise we could have seen an entire recruiting class essentially gone. Wasn't there one of the assistants too that stuck around and helped Klieman? Also keeping Kramer was huge didn't Bohl try to convince him too?

Oddly the whole mistake maybe was having Taylor let the team vote on whether to let Bohl stay, and they did. He probably should have said he's out the door but the assistants had to stay then could do whatever? Not sure that would have worked either. Oddly with all the inside knowledge Grant Olson and Brock Jenson still seem to look up to Bohl a lot too? Grant until this year was a GA in Wyoming...

From my understanding, there was a split in the locker room about supporting Bohl as well. The younger guys were Klieman supporters with the older/seniors being Bohl guys. Could be wrong though.

[1998braves64]

From my understanding, there was a split in the locker room about supporting Bohl as well. The younger guys were Klieman supporters with the older/seniors being Bohl guys. Could be wrong though.

I believe so, I'm pretty sure Jeff mentioned that in his book too, but not sure if he worded it younger/older. Might have been more defensive/offensive but at that time I think the offensive players group leaders might had the age compared to defensive group leaders?

[KC Bison]

I saw an old 2012 game at which Bohl had just signed a new multi-year contract. His comment was to ESPN reporters was that he had a long term contract and just loved it in Fargo. Implication was he was here for the long haul. My friend with Univ. of Wyoming ties, told me virtually the same thing this year. Bohl has a long term contract and just loved living in Wyoming. Not so fast my friend, I've heard this before. Told him, give him two good years and he's gone. Surprise, my friend doesn't believe me.

[tjbison]

Had the same thoughts while watching the game. Seems like living in Fargo would not be all that great but he does get kids to come there for football. Also could not help but wonder what Hauck thought while he watched the game--here he is going to be in one of the most beautiful towns in North America to live in, with a Cadillac stadium, rabid fan base and a 44 million dollar athletic training facility and players reported to eagerly run through a wall for him. Who is better off?

https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=78839

[Bison 4 Life]

https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=78839

Sure it's a beautiful town, in the middle of fucking nowhere.

[89MTBISON]

https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=78839

I will answer that question from egriz. Kleiman.

[EC8CH]

I will answer that question from egriz. Kleiman.



"Chris" Kleiman. Silly grizzly.

[Bison Bridge Guy]

Klieman finished 11th in the coach of the year voting this week. I guess voters think it's easy to do what he did this year. After we lost to JMU he talked immediately about needing better backups and building depth. We have more depth than anyone because of his emphasis on it and his leadership. 11th in the country? Bullshit.

[tjbison]

Klieman finished 11th in the coach of the year voting this week. I guess voters think it's easy to do what he did this year. After we lost to JMU he talked immediately about needing better backups and building depth. We have more depth than anyone because of his emphasis on it and his leadership. 11th in the country? Bullshit.

Well, loom at the Walter Payton winner yesterday

Tell me which QB was better, same goes with all these type awards, they are kind of a joke

[BISON Thunder]

Coach K and his staff are not only great teachers of the game, also tremendous ambassadors for NDSU, Fargo, the state of North Dakota and region. I hope we are able to hold on to this group for another run.

[GOBISON123]

Coach K and his staff are not only great teachers of the game, also tremendous ambassadors for NDSU, Fargo, the state of North Dakota and region. I hope we are able to hold on to this group for another run.

I think Coach K and crew will stick around for one more Championship after that they are gone to Big10 or Big12 opportunity.

[westnodak93bison]

Coach K and his staff are not only great teachers of the game, also tremendous ambassadors for NDSU, Fargo, the state of North Dakota and region. I hope we are able to hold on to this group for another run.Don't forget mentors for the players.

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[steelbison]

If the K-State head coach retires we might be in Trouble.


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[MAKBison]

If the K-State head coach retires we might be in Trouble.


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k state coach is retiring and gunna burn the house down if his son is not hired in his place

[Bison"FANatic"]

The only thing we can hope for is that Larson and Kleiman have been open and candid with each other and work to have a transition plan in place when/if it happens.

[AKBison]

k state coach is retiring and gunna burn the house down if his son is not hired in his place

K-State coach announced last week he will be back for 2018. I think coach K stays for more money for a few more years. Coach at a MAC school for 500k or at NDSU for 500k, basically a no brainer. If a P5 or AAC/MWC school offers him, he gone, as he should be.

[AKBison]

Mike Houston signs with JMU for 10 years- sounds like collusion involving the mayor of Frisco wanting JMU/NDSU every year....

http://jmusports.com/news/2017/12/12/mike-houston-signs-10-year-extension-as-head-coach-of-james-madison-football.aspx

If JMU has another successful run next year, Mike Houston will be the next head coach at ECU in 2019. You can book it.

[td577]

If there is any doubt the best defensive mind is sitting at NDSU right now, people were not watching the game on Saturday. No way the defense gets that exotic with the different sets and different blitz packages without Coach K intimately involved. Time to renegotiate. One reason is to take care of Coach K relative to any potential head coaching job out there. Secondly, to take care of NDSU if he gets hired away. The buy-out is getting too low right now.

[THEsocalledfan]

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

[Twentysix]

Sure it's a beautiful town, in the middle of fucking nowhere.So is Fargo though. Only people already in North Dakota think the kind of drive it takes to get anywhere is ok.

Also wow those posts, aren't they all from Montana? They need to tell each other what it looks like on a head coach thread?


Plus coach k is from Waterloo right? That's just Fargo in Iowa. It's good fit.
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[bisonp]

So is Fargo though. Only people already in North Dakota think the kind of drive it takes to get anywhere is ok.

Also wow those posts, aren't they all from Montana? They need to tell each other what it looks like on a head coach thread?


Plus coach k is from Waterloo right? That's just Fargo in Iowa. It's good fit.

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Not really. Our location adjacent to a decently populated state that only has one DI football program has been a major asset.

[BisonNeil]

So is Fargo though. Only people already in North Dakota think the kind of drive it takes to get anywhere is ok.

Also wow those posts, aren't they all from Montana? They need to tell each other what it looks like on a head coach thread?


Plus coach k is from Waterloo right? That's just Fargo in Iowa. It's good fit.
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You need to update your script with ‘17 :D

[MankatoBison]

give him another 50k annually and up his buyout. Chris is the real deal. The kind of coach every parent prays that their kid will have. The kind of coach that fans pray they can keep haha

[scottietohottie]

Does Klieman go if Jon Gruden calls looking for a DC?

[Hail bison]

It amazes me that mouth breathers like Smart, Swinney, Gundy and Fisher can be the face of the FBS. They call out their own players and make excuses for everything. Watch a press conference. Idiots. Assholes. Maybe we just hire coaches with a sense of humility or being in the FCS just keeps them that way

[td577]

It amazes me that mouth breathers like Smart, Swinney, Gundy and Fisher can be the face of the FBS. They call out their own players and make excuses for everything. Watch a press conference. Idiots. Assholes. Maybe we just hire coaches with a sense of humility or being in the FCS just keeps them that wayI don't get how coaches can be asses and get a job somewhere else.

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[bisonaudit]

I don't get how coaches can be asses and get a job somewhere else.

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makes you contemplate the character and motives of the people doing the hiring.

[Christopher Moen]

I don't get how coaches can be asses and get a job somewhere else.

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The game is dirty at that level, especially when it comes to recruiting. It’s part of the culture.


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[BigDEXX]

Anyone else notice that flight from Fargo to Tucson on flight aware?

[Professor Chaos]

Anyone else notice that flight from Fargo to Tucson on flight aware?
Are you talking this one? https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8017

That's not exactly to Tucson. Bullhead City is a good 350 miles through the Phoenix metro to get to Tucson.

[BisonVifte]

probably a gambling trip to Laughlin

[THEsocalledfan]

probably a gambling trip to Laughlin

And Sun Country would not be the ones running a football coach flight as it would be a much smaller jet.

[Bison_Pyro]

probably a gambling trip to Laughlin

yup! I got some flyer in the mail about it a few months ago

[TAILG8R]

So in typical Bisonville fashion I will derail this thread even more ... I notice the Sun Country banners hanging in Hector ... what's that all about? Since when does Sun Country have any flights flying in or out of Fargo?

[roadwarrior]

So in typical Bisonville fashion I will derail this thread even more ... I notice the Sun Country banners hanging in Hector ... what's that all about? Since when does Sun Country have any flights flying in or out of Fargo?

Numerous charter flights...like the one today. And the Bison football team to Frisco of course.

[TAILG8R]

Numerous charter flights...like the one today. And the Bison football team to Frisco of course.

Makes sense. Thanks Road!

[56BISON73]

Numerous charter flights...like the one today. And the Bison football team to Frisco of course.

I think we flew Sun Country charter in 2010 to EWU.

[Honeybooboo]

Anyone else notice that flight from Fargo to Tucson on flight aware?

they do this all the time, they are chartered flights thru Kvamme, Travel leaders etc..

Cancun, Laughlin, Puerto, etc..not a conspiracy

[Bison bison]

Ndsu to the mwc. Book it.

[KNOW IT ALL]

Im starting to waffle on this whole FCS vs FBS thing, Frisco is becoming quite the annual destination spot!!!!:) Don't get me wrong, it would be great to play in the LIQUID Plumber Toilet Bowl, hosted in beautiful downtown Cleveland.

[Mr Meaty]

Im starting to waffle on this whole FCS vs FBS thing, Frisco is becoming quite the annual destination spot!!!!:) Don't get me wrong, it would be great to play in the LIQUID Plumber Toilet Bowl, hosted in beautiful downtown Cleveland.

Maybe Waffle House could be the sponsor to the game and make you feel better.

[VirginiaBison]

Those 6 and 10 year contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on it appears.

[Bisonator98]

Those 6 and 10 year contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on it appears.

No contract is actually. Either party can opt out whenever they want just depends on who's going to pay.

[TAILG8R]

No contract is actually. Either party can opt out whenever they want just depends on who's going to pay.


Yep. This is the reason for the contract not necessarily the longevity.

[EC8CH]

Those 6 and 10 year contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on it appears.

Beware the contract extension. Cover for renegotiating terms prior to an upcoming exit.

[bisonaudit]

There’s a reason they have buyout clauses in them.

[KNOW IT ALL]

This is all starting to sound like another Seinfeld Episode. The one where Jerry snoops for info and when Elaine asks "What did you find out?", Jerry replies "I'm not sure", Elaine says "So you didn't find out anything new, Good JOB JEROME"!!!! We knew a week ago KC was being considered for KSU, "GOOD JOB JEROME".