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bluebison35
03-04-2016, 02:55 PM
A lot has been discussed how NDSU has a pro style offense vs Goff's "Bear raid". Everything I have read, NDSU's offense is a plus for CW when it comes to his pros and cons. With that being said......Do we give a little bit of props to Vigen? or maybe it was the OC before him??

Power run game, to the West Coast passing, to the Gun read option. NDSU has a versatile offense. Between our last 3 OC's, when they finally got their chance to be the play caller, they have sprinkled in their own philosophies.

CW's talents definitely play a huge role, but I believe on offensive scheme, Vigen should get some props.

My .02 I will hang up and listen. CW's thread was finally starting to slow down a bit so I thought I would throw out HP330's fav OC's name out there.
bisonp
03-04-2016, 03:18 PM
I definitely prefer the current offense to the Veer, successful and storied as it was. But I'm not sure if that was Vigen or not.
BisManBison
03-04-2016, 03:20 PM
A lot has been discussed how NDSU has a pro style offense vs Goff's "Bear raid". Everything I have read, NDSU's offense is a plus for CW when it comes to his pros and cons. With that being said......Do we give a little bit of props to Vigen? or maybe it was the OC before him??

Power run game, to the West Coast passing, to the Gun read option. NDSU has a versatile offense. Between our last 3 OC's, when they finally got their chance to be the play caller, they have sprinkled in their own philosophies.

CW's talents definitely play a huge role, but I believe on offensive scheme, Vigen should get some props.

My .02 I will hang up and listen. CW's thread was finally starting to slow down a bit so I thought I would throw out HP330's fav OC's name out there.

The Power West Coast was brought in with Bohl and his first OC who was Pat Perles I believe.
THEsocalledfan
03-04-2016, 03:42 PM
The Power West Coast was brought in with Bohl and his first OC who was Pat Perles I believe.

Yep, and lets face it, it was Bohl's decision. Bohl deserves the credit.

Vigen did do a great job of innovating the system to play to his players strengths during the Jensen years. (Think he struggled with that before, but sure the talent upgrade helps a coach a ton.)
Bison"FANatic"
03-04-2016, 04:22 PM
Yep, and lets face it, it was Bohl's decision. Bohl deserves the credit.

Vigen did do a great job of innovating the system to play to his players strengths during the Jensen years. (Think he struggled with that before, but sure the talent upgrade helps a coach a ton.)

Vigen did a good job in his later years, early it was like a fish out of water but he learned and the predictability and game planning were noticeably different. Those early years were the "fire Vigen" years but he improved. Carson learned a bunch under those coaches and under Polasek and Hedberg.

I remember Bohl saying that Carson was special after the first fall camp. He told the story at teammakers how Carson came in for his rep and threw it to a different receiver than he was suppose to. The D had cheated and Carson said yes it was suppose to go to that guy but this D guy did this and this other one did this and the read then changes to this other receiver. Bohl said there is no way he should have understood the offense at that level that early but he did and it was the complete right call. That was the day Bohl knew he could be special.
El_Chapo
03-04-2016, 04:28 PM
Vigen was a JOKE> sorry. he got credit for GREAT PLAYERS that BOHL recruited (or tim brewster didnt) much like randy hedberg getting accolades from small man kolpack. small timey nd 9man guys that happened to be in right spot at right time.
Leonardite
03-04-2016, 04:30 PM
The Power West Coast was brought in with Bohl and his first OC who was Pat Perles I believe.

Dan Enos was Bohl's original OC. Former Central Michigan HC that left to become Bielema's OC at Arkansas.
Professor Chaos
03-04-2016, 04:41 PM
Those early years were the "fire Vigen" years but he improved.
The early years like 2012? ;)

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?28686-Fire-vigen-save-season
Christopher Moen
03-04-2016, 06:14 PM
As much as I hate bringing up his name, but what type of offensive scheme did Babich bring? I remember reading or watching something that the veer was on the way out when he was hired to replace Rocky. Judging from what footage I could find on the internet, it confirms my memory that we seem to of had a similar pro-style offense to what we have today, especially with Lamar in the backfield.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TQUj-tmR8g
BISONBRI53
03-04-2016, 08:11 PM
As much as I hate bringing up his name, but what type of offensive scheme did Babich bring? I remember reading or watching something that the veer was on the way out when he was hired to replace Rocky. Judging from what footage I could find on the internet, it confirms my memory that we seem to of had a similar pro-style offense to what we have today, especially with Lamar in the backfield.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TQUj-tmR8g

Did he know what kind of offense we ran?
Christopher Moen
03-04-2016, 08:28 PM
Did he know what kind of offense we ran?

Wow, did it just get hot here because that's a nuclear burn!!!
CAS4127
03-04-2016, 08:34 PM
Did he know what kind of offense we ran?


Wow, did it just get hot here because that's a nuclear burn!!!


I'm diggin on the no purple too!!
EndZoneQB
03-04-2016, 09:15 PM
As much as I hate bringing up his name, but what type of offensive scheme did Babich bring? I remember reading or watching something that the veer was on the way out when he was hired to replace Rocky. Judging from what footage I could find on the internet, it confirms my memory that we seem to of had a similar pro-style offense to what we have today, especially with Lamar in the backfield.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TQUj-tmR8g

Man, those highlights gave me goosebumps. I remember that team so well! All of those names, even the UND names, are just a blast from the past. This run has been pretty special, but the nostalgia is still really fun.
HerdBot
03-04-2016, 10:28 PM
Bohl brought the general style and the OCs and DCs innovated it. I like how Polasek took the basic offensive concepts and really added the QB run. Same with Klieman who took our defense to another level. Everyone deserves credit
EC8CH
03-04-2016, 11:08 PM
Everyone deserves credit

Especially Bisonville ;)
overquota
03-04-2016, 11:42 PM
I don't remember his name but I do not miss that sportscaster from GF
BamaBison1
03-06-2016, 01:45 AM
As much as I hate bringing up his name, but what type of offensive scheme did Babich bring? I remember reading or watching something that the veer was on the way out when he was hired to replace Rocky. Judging from what footage I could find on the internet, it confirms my memory that we seem to of had a similar pro-style offense to what we have today, especially with Lamar in the backfield.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TQUj-tmR8g

I think he mostly used the 8 play Tecmo Bowl offensive scheme.