So if Wentz goes in the top ten in the draft do we retire his number 11?

[civilguy]

I vote yes!


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[NDSU_grad]

I vote yes!


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Nope. I would put the odds on that happening at about 1,000,000,000,000,000 to 1.

[civilguy]

So you're saying there is a chance!


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[Vet70]

So you're saying there is a chance!


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I think he is saying that there is a snowballs chance in hell.

[Bison 4 Life]

That's not our style.

[Milkman]

If CW is drafted by the Browns, resurrects that franchise and wins 5 Super Bowls in a row. Then I say we consider it. Maybe.

[BisonFanAnn]

I agree that it's not our style. No names on the back - now is not the time to make it all about one player (no matter how big a star he might become).

[IBleedYellow]

That's not how we roll.

Go lookup the reason the one number we have is retired.

I'll hangup and listen.

[NDSU_grad]

If CW is drafted by the Browns, resurrects that franchise and wins 5 Super Bowls in a row. Then I say we consider it. Maybe.

No offense, but what he does in the NFL shouldn't matter at all. If he does do that in Cleveland, they can retire his jersey. We don't retire numbers at NDSU. Well, just one, but that was of course a special circumstance.

[Trumpster]

That's not how we roll. Go lookup the reason the one number we have is retired. I'll hangup and listen. This. Someone asked the same thing about #16.

[MNLonghorn10]

Brock's number didn't get retired so

[bisonaudit]

Don't the places that retire numbers usually do it based on what a player accomplished while they were with that team?

Even if they don't, what does getting drafted in a particular spot have to do with anything? It effects the amount of money he gets to put in his pocket but beyond that it's basically meaningless. It's not really an accomplishment. It's merely a reflection of what the most optimistic of 32 front offices hopes he can do at the next level.

[BlueBisonRock]

NDSU does not retire numbers. This has not been done in the history of NDSU and its football teams.

There is however one number which will not be reissued. For reasons myself and many others respect.

[MAKBison]

NO! As far as CW and Bison go..... Once Bison always a Bison. In addition, its next man up!

[Milkman]

No offense, but what he does in the NFL shouldn't matter at all. If he does do that in Cleveland, they can retire his jersey. We don't retire numbers at NDSU. Well, just one, but that was of course a special circumstance.Yeah I know. Hence why Michigan ain't retiring Brady's number. Sorry I thought the purple was implied.

[MAKBison]

Don't the places that retire numbers usually do it based on what a player accomplished while they were with that team?

Even if they don't, what does getting drafted in a particular spot have to do with anything? It effects the amount of money he gets to put in his pocket but beyond that it's basically meaningless. It's not really an accomplishment. It's merely a reflection of what the most optimistic of 32 front offices hopes he can do at the next level.

Agree with most of what you said.......but getting drafted and getting drafted high is certainly an accomplishment

[MAKBison]

NDSU does not retire numbers. This has not been done in the history of NDSU and its football teams.

There is however one number which will not be reissued. For reasons myself and many others respect.

So share the knowledge...what number was never re issued and why?

[bisonaudit]

Agree with most of what you said.......but getting drafted and getting drafted high is certainly an accomplishment

Clearly, I've been living to close to the Washington football team for to many years. I'm terribly jaded about anything NFL related that happens between mid-Feb and early Sept. #wintheoffseason

[Bison 4 Life]

So share the knowledge...what number was never re issued and why?

From the Media Guide:



Only one number (79) has ever been retired in North Dakota State football history. It belonged to defensive tackle Paul Allen Bothof who played for the Bison from 1968 through 1970.

A two-year starter and an all-conference selection in 1970, the 6-foot-6, 245-pound giant was called the "best-looking football player in this game" by a pro scout at the 1969 Camellia Bowl at the end of his junior season.

But Bothof's career came to a tragic end on Sunday, October 25, 1970, two weeks before the end of the regular season, as he was the victim of an accidental shooting while hunting.

No player has ever worn that jersey number for the Bison since.

[MAKBison]

From the Media Guide:



Only one number (79) has ever been retired in North Dakota State football history. It belonged to defensive tackle Paul Allen Bothof who played for the Bison from 1968 through 1970.

A two-year starter and an all-conference selection in 1970, the 6-foot-6, 245-pound giant was called the "best-looking football player in this game" by a pro scout at the 1969 Camellia Bowl at the end of his junior season.

But Bothof's career came to a tragic end on Sunday, October 25, 1970, two weeks before the end of the regular season, as he was the victim of an accidental shooting while hunting.

No player has ever worn that jersey number for the Bison since.

Makes sense.

[HerdBot]

No. We don't retire numbers. Going in the top 10 while incredible doesn't guarantee he will even have a better career than our other NFL guys. No other player with nfl success has their number retired. Heck Steve Nelson is in the Patriots Hall Of Fame and his number isn't retired.

[BlueBisonRock]

So share the knowledge...what number was never re issued and why?

You can follow this BV thread from a few years back for some history. BV Files (http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?26222-At-this-rate-The-NDSU-should)

Also, thanks to B4L for the media guide reference.

[Vet70]

So, it sounds like one yes, one purple maybe and the rest no.

[silkamilkamonico]

Scheels needs to bring his jersey back again!

[WFBisonFan]

Zero chance.

[Bison4peat]

No man is more important than The Team. No coach is more important than The Team. The Team, The Team, The Team -Bo Schembechler 1983

[td577]

There is a Bison athletic hall of fame to highlight and honor individual (and team) accomplishments. He will probably go in twice. That is how the Bison do it.

[CAS4127]

There is a Bison athletic hall of fame to highlight and honor individual (and team) accomplishments. He will probably go in twice. That is how the Bison do it.

Likely 3 times--individually and with his 2 Natty's. Hell, he technically could go in 5 times.


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[56BISON73]

I vote yes!


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NO..............................

So if he goes #1 you would retire his number. If he doesnt go number 1 you give him the high hard one?

[td577]

Likely 3 times--individually and with his 2 Natty's. Hell, he technically could go in 5 times.


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Yes. I wasn't thinking about all the different teams. A 6 time Hall of Famer possibility. It would take Vraa figuring out another year of eligibility to top that.

[CAS4127]

Yes. I wasn't thinking about all the different teams. A 6 time Hall of Famer possibility. It would take Vraa figuring out another year of eligibility to top that.

Wow, I gapped 6 times out--crazy!


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[BisonAccountant44]

Yes. I wasn't thinking about all the different teams. A 6 time Hall of Famer possibility. It would take Vraa figuring out another year of eligibility to top that.

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[El_Chapo]

From the Media Guide:



Only one number (79) has ever been retired in North Dakota State football history. It belonged to defensive tackle Paul Allen Bothof who played for the Bison from 1968 through 1970.

A two-year starter and an all-conference selection in 1970, the 6-foot-6, 245-pound giant was called the "best-looking football player in this game" by a pro scout at the 1969 Camellia Bowl at the end of his junior season.

But Bothof's career came to a tragic end on Sunday, October 25, 1970, two weeks before the end of the regular season, as he was the victim of an accidental shooting while hunting.

No player has ever worn that jersey number for the Bison since.


DID PL think he was a turkey & wanted the feathers? /purple

[DjKyRo]

I vote no, but we definitely switch Stick to #100 to continue the binary karma.

[HazenBizon]

I vote no, but we definitely switch Stick to #100 to continue the binary karma.

If we really want binary karma, Stick should be 110 to guarantee the six peat.

[BlueHawkAlumni]

No

10char

[Bisonator98]

I vote no, but we definitely switch Stick to #100 to continue the binary karma.

Hmmm, Brock was 16, Carson was 11, so Stick should be 6. I like it!:biggrin:

[DjKyRo]

If we really want binary karma, Stick should be 110 to guarantee the six peat.
I assume Longhorn will be rolling the six-wolf moon shirt to ensure this.

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[cbline]

No numbers should be retired.

[bisonp]

This thought crossed my mind, and I'm sure it will within the athletic department too. But I don't think it will happen, and I don't think it should.

I do expect to see a lot more of him in the concourses though.

[Mr Pep Band]

IMO, no.
NDSU don't retire numbers, same reason we don't put names of anyone but "Bison" and "NDSU".

[FrozenTech]

I assume Longhorn will be rolling the six-wolf moon shirt to ensure this.

Is it a Six Wolf Moon shirt, or a Six Moon Wolf shirt? Inquiring minds want to know.

[imabison]

IMO, no.
NDSU don't retire numbers, same reason we don't put names of anyone but "Bison" and "NDSU".

http://admin.xosn.com/pdf5/80945.pdf its here noticed a picture of Steffes 23 and he was behind 82 it would be interesting to see a similar picture with
the size of the both compared to todays teams.

I say no do not retire any numbers.

[gizmo]

No. Next #11 up!

[DORMIE]

Can't retire the numbers of Jensen and Wentz as they never made all conference and that is a joke in itself!!!!! Team wins 5 National Championships and the QB never makes all conference. Must be some jealousy there.

[Vet70]

We don't retire the numbers of mediocre quarterbacks.

[MNLonghorn10]

I assume Longhorn will be rolling the six-wolf moon shirt to ensure this.

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Is it a Six Wolf Moon shirt, or a Six Moon Wolf shirt? Inquiring minds want to know.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZQ01P9sPuM



its not even the end of basketball season. I havent talked to the clouds yet to get a vision.

[EC8CH]

Can't retire the numbers of Jensen and Wentz as they never made all conference and that is a joke in itself!!!!! Team wins 5 National Championships and the QB never makes all conference. Must be some jealousy there.

HAHA... so true

[YOUVEBEENTHUNDERSTRUCK]

this whole thread is a joke right? by the end of this year Wentz will be the third best NDSU QB of the last five years

[civilguy]

So now let's fast forward ten years..... Mvp.....couple Super Bowl rings..... Few hundred TDs later...... Now what you thinking?


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[Vet70]

So now let's fast forward ten years..... Mvp.....couple Super Bowl rings..... Few hundred TDs later...... Now what you thinking?


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Two words--no, no, and no.

[BisonNation11]

No. Never. Bison football is about the team. No accolades or accomplishments by any player at this or the next level will ever be greater than what the team has achieved. That's the culture. The day that changes is the day Bison football as we know it dies.

[BisonTru]

So now let's fast forward ten years..... Mvp.....couple Super Bowl rings..... Few hundred TDs later...... Now what you thinking?


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If he wins a couple SBs for the Browns they should consider it. NDSU, no.

[StL Bison Fan]

We start retiring numbers, we will run out of numbers :biggrin:

[56BISON73]

So now let's fast forward ten years..... Mvp.....couple Super Bowl rings..... Few hundred TDs later...... Now what you thinking?


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What he does in the pros has no bearing.

[CAS4127]

What he does in the pros has no bearing.

No bearing on number retirement, (which shouldn't even be a topic of discussion IMO) but could be for HOL (not that he needs any help there). I believe Gus Bradley may get in individually at some point, but it won't be for on-field play, it will be for post-NDSU success. And I have no problem with that really.


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[gumby013]

I think there should be a more substantial hall of fame. Covers all athletic programs and allows for flexibility. Give the athletes and fans someplace to walk through history.

[Bison_Pride]

Somebody doesn't understand how Bison football operates.

[Vet70]

Somebody doesn't understand how Bison football operates.

You have to admit he is persistent. :facepalm:

[dewey]

No. Never. Bison football is about the team. No accolades or accomplishments by any player at this or the next level will ever be greater than what the team has achieved. That's the culture. The day that changes is the day Bison football as we know it dies.

^^^^This! Like CAS said Hall of Fame yes.

Dewey

[THEsocalledfan]

No. Never. Bison football is about the team. No accolades or accomplishments by any player at this or the next level will ever be greater than what the team has achieved. That's the culture. The day that changes is the day Bison football as we know it dies.

Ding, Ding, Ding. We have a winner. Shoe in for the Bison HOF.

Not sure which induction I am looking forward to me. Carson's or Brock's. Those two will be legends forever here.

[civilguy]

Ten years from now I just want to have proof it was I that started the push! That and a buck will get me a coffee at McDonald's !



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[StL Bison Fan]

Ten years from now I just want to have proof it was I that started the push! That and a buck will get me a coffee at McDonald's !



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Its not like you started a Bison cheer or something.
But stop by the tailgate and I will give you coffee (or some drink)

[56BISON73]

I think there should be a more substantial hall of fame. Covers all athletic programs and allows for flexibility. Give the athletes and fans someplace to walk through history.

All sports are eligible.

[gumby013]

All sports are eligible.

I'm saying it needs a substantial physical location.

[56BISON73]

I'm saying it needs a substantial physical location.

I agree.......

[1998braves64]

I'm saying it needs a substantial physical location.


Isn't part of the shac going to have a hall of fame location in it?? Seems I remember that being mentioned.

[EC8CH]

Isn't part of the shac going to have a hall of fame location in it?? Seems I remember that being mentioned.

Yes 10char

[A1pigskin]

I agree that it's not our style. No names on the back - now is not the time to make it all about one player (no matter how big a star he might become).

I'd go with this.....