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tjbison
02-25-2016, 11:30 PM
Ok, I'm wondering what if any the impact on recruiting a high pick from a school would do for recruits? Granted this is all if things pan out but NDSU could have 2 draft picks this year, this is pretty big publicity once again for NDSU.

I think it's a huge thing for a kid knowing he can get top round if not top pick by coming to an FCS school...thoughts?

td577
02-25-2016, 11:46 PM
Ok, I'm wondering what if any the impact on recruiting a high pick from a school would do for recruits? Granted this is all if things pan out but NDSU could have 2 draft picks this year, this is pretty big publicity once again for NDSU.

I think it's a huge thing for a kid knowing he can get top round if not top pick by coming to an FCS school...thoughts?

I think NDSU has already established itself as a program that can produce NFL talent. It has to be a pretty big deal to sit across from a kid and tell them if you are a potential NFL talent, you will get a shot coming out of NDSU just as well as most schools, plus you get actual playing time for four years. Now getting a former walk on that might go in the first half of the draft and a potential top 5 pick, that is just more icing on the cake. You will get noticed here. It goes so much deeper then just the guys drafted. Guys in the CFL, a few still out there still getting a shot in NFL camps, and a few years straight where there have been a handful of Bison alumni starting or highly contributing on Sundays goes a long ways. Then when you add in that some of these guys were considered FBS project guys who might not have seen the field for their first three years in any other program, it has to have a positive impact. Our staff can sit in front of any recruit and their parents and honestly tell them if they follow the program of working hard in the classroom and in the football program, they have a legitimate shot in 4 or 5 years of at least getting a serious look by a NFL team. How many guys last year went to mini-camps invited? They all didn't make it, but they got the opportunity. Not every school can say that about their former student/athletes and not all of them can say their football players leave with a college degree. You leave NDSU prepared.

HerdBot
02-28-2016, 02:58 AM
It will be cool putting a 1st round QB pick on the walls of the dome, coaching offices, and media guides. I think any high school QB who has NFL aspirations will be impressed by that and it will only have a positive effect. And when you still have an awesome QB coach who coached him... big impact.

I think UNI benefitted from Kurt Warner and probably still do. Hopefully Carson not only is drafted high but has a good career

MAKBison
02-28-2016, 02:59 AM
It will be cool putting a 1st round QB pick on the walls of the dome, coaching offices, and media guides. I think any high school QB who has NFL aspirations will be impressed by that and it will only have a positive effect. And when you still have an awesome QB coach who coached him... big impact.

I think UNI benefitted from Kurt Warner and probably still do. Hopefully Carson not only is drafted high but has a good career

Kolpeck had an artifice in todays INFORUM about Hedberg....http://www.inforum.com/sports/bison/3957755-kolpack-wentzs-rise-national-prominence-directly-traced-hedberg

MAKBison
02-28-2016, 03:02 AM
I think NDSU has already established itself as a program that can produce NFL talent. It has to be a pretty big deal to sit across from a kid and tell them if you are a potential NFL talent, you will get a shot coming out of NDSU just as well as most schools, plus you get actual playing time for four years. Now getting a former walk on that might go in the first half of the draft and a potential top 5 pick, that is just more icing on the cake. You will get noticed here. It goes so much deeper then just the guys drafted. Guys in the CFL, a few still out there still getting a shot in NFL camps, and a few years straight where there have been a handful of Bison alumni starting or highly contributing on Sundays goes a long ways. Then when you add in that some of these guys were considered FBS project guys who might not have seen the field for their first three years in any other program, it has to have a positive impact. Our staff can sit in front of any recruit and their parents and honestly tell them if they follow the program of working hard in the classroom and in the football program, they have a legitimate shot in 4 or 5 years of at least getting a serious look by a NFL team. How many guys last year went to mini-camps invited? They all didn't make it, but they got the opportunity. Not every school can say that about their former student/athletes and not all of them can say their football players leave with a college degree. You leave NDSU prepared.

I think where it pays dividends is that it broadens your recruiting footprint! Makes it easier to get those guys outside of your imedaite footprint

HerdBot
02-28-2016, 03:09 AM
I think where it pays dividends is that widens your recruiting footprint!.

True.
Plus, every team has a famous NFL player who is kind of thr face of the program. Carson will be the guy. Let's face it, everyone knows who the QB is on an NFL team.

Honeybooboo
02-28-2016, 03:20 AM
True.
Plus, every team has a famous NFL player who is kind of thr face of the program. Carson will be the guy. Let's face it, everyone knows who the QB is on an NFL team.

Not everyone

Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Teddy Bridgewater
Ben Rothsl....berger
Tom Brady

Those are the only NFL QB's I can name with their teams off the top of my head. but I admit I don't follow NFL at all. Granted I know more names if someone reminds me but I couldn't place them with a team. But your right NFL diehards will know

Milkman
02-28-2016, 04:47 AM
No Joe Flacco or Tony Romo?

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SDbison
02-28-2016, 05:02 AM
In a different line of thinking about impact, just imagine with Carson's apparent top QB in the NFL draft status how much pressure this would have put on Easton for next year if Carson had played the entire season. The 8 wins with Easton starting really makes this a non issue. If Easton's first game was next season this might have seemed like huge shoes to fill and could have had an impact on the transition to a new QB.

HerdBot
02-28-2016, 05:31 AM
Not everyone

Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Teddy Bridgewater
Ben Rothsl....berger
Tom Brady

Those are the only NFL QB's I can name with their teams off the top of my head. but I admit I don't follow NFL at all. Granted I know more names if someone reminds me but I couldn't place them with a team. But your right NFL diehards will know

Sorry not what I meant.
Every college team has a player who is their big name guy. Right now we a bunch of good NFL guys but no big names everyone recognizes nationally. Wentz could be that guy

HerdBot
02-28-2016, 05:32 AM
In a different line of thinking about impact, just imagine with Carson's apparent top QB in the NFL draft status how much pressure this would have put on Easton for next year if Carson had played the entire season. The 8 wins with Easton starting really makes this a non issue. If Easton's first game was next season this might have seemed like huge shoes to fill and could have had an impact on the transition to a new QB.

Great point

SDbison
02-28-2016, 05:53 AM
Great point For emphasis, the transition to replace Carson after him playing all season and getting drafted in 2nd or 3rd round would have been a big deal. Even more so if Easton had little or no experience last season replacing Carson as an early 1st round pick would have been a huge burden.

A1pigskin
02-28-2016, 01:09 PM
True.
Plus, every team has a famous NFL player who is kind of thr face of the program. Carson will be the guy. Let's face it, everyone knows who the QB is on an NFL team.

Some of those faces are from the past. CW is the now and many H.S. live in the now.

td577
02-28-2016, 01:17 PM
Sorry not what I meant.
Every college team has a player who is their big name guy. Right now we a bunch of good NFL guys but no big names everyone recognizes nationally. Wentz could be that guy

I do think when a guy becomes a big name nationally and they are from a traditionally obscure college, there is an additional emphasis on the school they came from from. It seems Flacco is always mentioned with the college while Rodgers not so much. I have a feeling CW will be one of those guys as he progresses. He will be always be mentioned as being from NDSU. As guys like KE, Haeg, and others progress, they will too and it will seem perfectly normal nationwide for NDSU to be producing NFL talent. I know we already see this and it isn't unexpected to see Bison athletes at the pro level, but we haven't reached that level of the casual fan recognizing NDSU as a producer of NFL talent. When that perception is normalized across the board, then recruiting again becomes that much easier and as many have said, the recruiting footprint becomes larger, the marketability of the program becomes bigger, and our targeted recruits become easier to lock down during the process. Sure there are other great college stories out there with programs like Mt. Union, for example, that are non-traditional non-P5 championship programs, but do they also have the additional benefit to their student/athlete of producing NFL talent. No one will have to sell the idea very hard that NDSU produces NFL talent when on Sundays the announcers and sport shows are doing it for you. Just another layer to the championship program already established which is already there but will become more publicized.

Christopher Moen
03-02-2016, 05:14 AM
It will be cool putting a 1st round QB pick on the walls of the dome, coaching offices, and media guides. I think any high school QB who has NFL aspirations will be impressed by that and it will only have a positive effect. And when you still have an awesome QB coach who coached him... big impact.

I think UNI benefitted from Kurt Warner and probably still do. Hopefully Carson not only is drafted high but has a good career

Strange thing about UNI, I don't recall over the many years of running wrestling events at their place seeing any mention of Kurt Warner. I know they use to have a huge banner of Bryce Paup for a long time, but nothing in Kurt.

scottietohottie
03-02-2016, 01:17 PM
Didn't Kurt Warner play for uni in 93 and didn't make the rams until 98. Probably has a lot to do with his number not making the garage door of fame.

gumby013
03-02-2016, 01:25 PM
Didn't Kurt Warner play for uni in 93 and didn't make the rams until 98. Probably has a lot to do with his number not making the garage door of fame.

I'd say that's mostly due to Warner not being all that spectacular in college. He didn't get really good until the arena league.

Christopher Moen
03-03-2016, 05:43 AM
I'd say that's mostly due to Warner not being all that spectacular in college. He didn't get really good until the arena league.

Heard he was a pretty good worker at Hyvee. Perhaps, he's BigDaddyKane's secret hero.

A1pigskin
03-06-2016, 12:33 PM
With all the publicity during the Combine, does anyone know if Coach fielded any calls from people wanting to play at NDSU?

HerdBot
03-07-2016, 12:28 AM
I'd say that's mostly due to Warner not being all that spectacular in college. He didn't get really good until the arena league.

He only started for 1 year at UNI, the year they won the, Nat, uh I mean the Conference Championship