1/31: @ iupui

[HoopsBison]

The Bison men will enjoy a nice week off before they will travel to Indianapolis to take on the Jaguars of IUPUI. IUPUI played a very tough non-conference season and struggled to pick up wins but have done very well thus far in conference play and come in at a record of 5-2 and a game ahead of NDSU in SL standings. This is a big game, the Bison should be well rested and ready to go. The Jags are playing some good basketball right now. Tip-off is set for 12:00 and I believe will be on ESPN 3.


Go Bison!

[DIBISON]

DIRECTV guide shows the game on channel 790 on Sunday at noon. I'll replace the no Sunday football on TV with a Bison basketball game!!

[BFKasper14]

Not good, not bad start. Few more TO's than wanted, but only down 1.


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[Mr Meaty]

Khy playing well.

[HoopsBison]

Not our best effort defensively..

[Mr Meaty]

P Miller on fire

[Mr Meaty]

Attacking the rim and drawing fouls. Not a slow start today. Defense been playing better last few possessions.

[HoopsBison]

Defense has been garabge...pretty frustrating. Offense has been real good on the other hand.

[NDSUstudent]

Khy had a great half, defense was kind of optional for both teams.

[Jay]

Not sure wtf AJ was doing at the end of the half.

[BFKasper14]

Should have taken the last shot at half.


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[Bison Gal]

Second half starting momentarily. Bison up 44-41 over IUPUI at the half.

NDSU shot 65% in the first half, including 5-of-7 from 3-point range.

Bison scoring at halftime: Kabellis 12, Jacobson 11, Paul Miller 10, Clements 5, Brown 4, Dylan Miller 2

[Mr Meaty]

Box out on rebounds.

[Mr Meaty]

P Smooooth threeeeeee

[NDSUstudent]

Bison need to weather the storm without KB for a while.

[Mr Meaty]

P Smoooth again for threeee!!!

[Kujava23]

Getting lots of points in the paint

[Hansel]

Paul miller is fun to watch.

[ndsubison1]

Every time they score, the announcers "let's see if this sparks iupui"

[ndsubison1]

Take care of the ball. Jesus.

[NDSUstudent]

Just a horrible shot by Khy.

[BFKasper14]

And here comes the choke show


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[Mr Meaty]

Someone step up and make the shot

[BFKasper14]

Difference between last year and this year is this year they can't finish games. I think Alexander was a big part of that. They just need to be more confident down the stretch and avoid these 5-8 minute droughts. Someone NEEDS to step up.


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[Mr Meaty]

Finish this 3 minutes. Come on guys don't let this one slip away

[NDSUstudent]

Free throws...free throws...free throws.

[Mr Meaty]

Make a free throw.

[BFKasper14]

Make your god damn FREE THROWS!!!


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[westnodak93bison]

Embarrassing. Shooting fts like 4th grade girls

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[ndsubison1]

Jesus how's many FT we going to miss

[BFKasper14]

Just disgusting effort the last 10 minutes


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[Mr Meaty]

Huge stop there

[NDSUstudent]

At least we are hitting the board hard, it is saving us. Need one more basket now.

[BFKasper14]

Now FINISH THE GAME


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[NDSUstudent]

Can't believe Dex is this off from the charity stripe.

[Mr Meaty]

Get this one dex

[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

Why is AJ taking the ball out? Better question why didn't he call a TO instead of passing it to Werner?!

[BFKasper14]

Big hit by Brown, but Dex HAS to make these


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[BFKasper14]

GOD DAMMIT!!!


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[Kujava23]

Call a TIMEOUT at 12.1 to get INBOUND to a FREE THROW SHOOTER----to Paul Miller or AJ

danggggggggggggggggggggg

[NDSUstudent]

Horrific loss.

[BFKasper14]

MAKE YOUR FREE THROWS!!! It's costing us this game


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[Kujava23]

Terrible LOSS!!!

[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

Wow.......

[BFKasper14]

Jesus Christ this team SUCKS


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[North Side]

Was his foot on the line?

[BFKasper14]

This team better be puking after their next practice. Have an entire practice to shoot FTs and make em run when they miss. Absolutely PATHETIC showing today.


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[Kujava23]

Ok, I'm tired of watching AJ defer when game gets close----WHY

We need him to be AGGRESSIVE--

[Kingslayer]

God we suck.... no tourney this year :/

[ndsubison1]

Make free throws and we win. Simple as that.

[HerdBoy]

AJ and Dex 3 for 10 from the free throw line. We should be shooting 70% from the line as a team. Poor free throw shooting cost us this game.

[StL Bison Fan]

Get a lead. Engage cruise control. Bleech

[North Side]

God we suck.... no tourney this year :/

Already knew this at start of the season this team would not go dancing. We are WAY too young.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Jesus Christ this team SUCKS


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U had some very professional and well thought out posts in the last few minutes. I hope u feel better about yourself. Enjoy your Sunday...although it appears it has been ruined.

[ndsubison1]

Call a TIMEOUT at 12.1 to get INBOUND to a FREE THROW SHOOTER----to Paul Miller or AJ

danggggggggggggggggggggg

This!! We deserved to lose

[phxbison]

What a terrible, terrible loss that was. Give up a 10 point lead with 4:00 minutes to go. Take bad shots, can't get stops and can't make free throws !

[Mr Meaty]

Ok, I'm tired of watching AJ defer when game gets close----WHY

We need him to be AGGRESSIVE--

Exactly why????!

[NDSUstudent]

Two things really hurt frees throws obviously but also not having another ball handler. Just an ugly loss to blow a 10 point lead.

[Mr Meaty]

8-18 from the line.

[HerdBot]

Frustrating. In years past these 1 point losses would have been 1 point wins. We're not that far off but it's still frustrating. We're better than a .500 team in the conference.

[EC8CH]

This game felt a lot like USD except we weren't lucky this time on their final shot. Need to improve playing with the lead and of course making free throws.

[Strommer10]

44% from the free throw line is unacceptable at the D1 level. This team will continue to struggle closing out games until this improves.

[BFKasper14]

U had some very professional and well thought out posts in the last few minutes. I hope u feel better about yourself. Enjoy your Sunday...although it appears it has been ruined.

Oh sorry Mr. Bergundy. I apologize! Let me correct myself...

Boy this team really played well today! Losing to a 10-13 team is awesome! You know what? I think free throws are overrated. Who needs em? This team really should pat themselves on the back for their effort! Great show boys! Let's go play the next game, but if we lose, that's ok! At least we got close and got the moral victory!

That better? Sorry for being a dick, but I expect wins. When you're up by 10 four times in a season and blow the leads, something needs to be addressed. Today it was free throws, defense, and keeping rhythm the entire game. I'm sick of this team quitting after the first 3 quarters of the game.


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[Mr. Burgundy]

Frustrating. In years past these 1 point losses would have been 1 point wins. We're not that far off but it's still frustrating. We're better than a .500 team in the conference.

We really could have used say a junior ball handler in the second half..........

[NDSUstudent]

We really could have used say a junior ball handler in the second half..........

Nailed it.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Oh sorry Mr. Bergundy. I apologize! Let me correct myself...

Boy this team really played well today! Losing to a 10-13 team is awesome! You know what? I think free throws are overrated. Who needs em? This team really should pat themselves on the back for their effort! Great show boys! Let's go play the next game, but if we lose, that's ok! At least we got close and got the moral victory!

That better? Sorry for being a dick, but I expect wins. When you're up by 10 four times in a season and blow the leads, something needs to be addressed. Today it was free throws, defense, and keeping rhythm the entire game. I'm sick of this team quitting after the first 3 quarters of the game.


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Well then don't be a dick. Where did I say free throws aren't important. It's common sense. Everyone over the age of 3 knows why we just lost.

[BFKasper14]

Well then don't be a dick. Where did I say free throws aren't important. It's common sense. Everyone over the age of 3 knows why we just lost.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.


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[HerdBoy]

God we suck.... no tourney this year :/

I don't think any team has really become the Top Dog in the Summit yet. Just a bunch of teams mishmashed together. I still like our chances.

[Herd12]

God we suck.... no tourney this year :/

So if that last second shot clanks of the rim on this, the 31st of January that we somehow have a better chance of winning the Summit League championship on March 8th? Fascinating logic.

[North Side]

So if that last second shot clanks of the rim on this, the 31st of January that we somehow have a better chance of winning the Summit League championship on March 8th? Fascinating logic.

agreed this year is about developement we are not going dancing and if we did we would be a 16 seed. Last year with LA we were a 15 and this team is no where as good as last year.

[GOB1SON]

Oh sorry Mr. Bergundy. I apologize! Let me correct myself...

Boy this team really played well today! Losing to a 10-13 team is awesome! You know what? I think free throws are overrated. Who needs em? This team really should pat themselves on the back for their effort! Great show boys! Let's go play the next game, but if we lose, that's ok! At least we got close and got the moral victory!

That better? Sorry for being a dick, but I expect wins. When you're up by 10 four times in a season and blow the leads, something needs to be addressed. Today it was free throws, defense, and keeping rhythm the entire game. I'm sick of this team quitting after the first 3 quarters of the game.


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Davis down by 9
Ark St down by 13
UND down by 15

This team has also come back from big deficits. Forget about those? Pretty easy to only remember the blown leads, I guess, and not give credit for the great wins.

[BFKasper14]

Davis down by 9
Ark St down by 13
UND down by 15

This team has also come back from big deficits. Forget about those? Pretty easy to only remember the blown leads, I guess, and not give credit for the great wins.

You know what? You guys are right. I went off the handle and said some things that were unprofessional. I can admit when I'm wrong. Apologies all around!


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[Herd12]

agreed this year is about developement we are not going dancing and if we did we would be a 16 seed. Last year with LA we were a 15 and this team is no where as good as last year.

Disagree pretty firmly. This team, with Dupree, has every contributor besides Alexander from last year. Paul's step up has made up a lot of that gap. This team beat a Montana team by 20 that it lost to last year. That's maybe not the best way to look at it but to say they're "nowhere near as good" is honestly ludicrous. By the time March comes around they'll have just as good of a chance at dancing as last year's squad did. "Too young".... lol, uh 6 of the 7 guys that played last year are on this years team and have another year of experience.

[NDSUstudent]

I think if Dupree hadn't quit for that short period the team has a few more wins, that said if he can come back and help out in the tournament I could see the team making a run. This team isn't terrible, just at times they have some lapses. It reminds me of young teams with Braun and LA. These issues are really magnified on the road.

[ZHerd]

NDSU is definitely not a bad team. Bad teams get blown out of the water and when this team loses it is usually a squeaker. Someone else mentioned it, but this team, with its lapses, cold spells, and sloppy streaks reminds me some of the young Braun, LA team.

[westnodak93bison]

Well then don't be a dick. Where did I say free throws aren't important. It's common sense. Everyone over the age of 3 knows why we just lost.
Pot calling kettle black. Look yourself in the mirror for once.

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[Bisonator98]

Terrible loss today. Pissed away a 10 point second half lead. Can't in bound the ball. Can't make fricking free throws. The whole program needs to do some soul searching and that includes the coaching staff. Dave was out coached IMO. Why isnt Dex in bounding it in a late foul situation. He shouldn't be going to the line there. Need to pull there heads out before the tourney or they might as well stay home.

[unbison]

AJ and Dex 3 for 10 from the free throw line. We should be shooting 70% from the line as a team. Poor free throw shooting cost us this game.

Are they from Milwaukee?

[IBleedYellow]

Ooof.

Bad loss to take.

Thankfully we're only halfway through the conference schedule. Bust out the rest of the way and don't drop a game. Get better from the free throw line (gotta earn 'em!), play solid D, and stop putting out cruise control with 10 minutes left in the game.

[bisonranch]

Get a lead. Engage cruise control. Bleech

It's almost like they're trying to be like the football team and eat up the clock rather than keep the intensity scoring. Gotta make free throws though.

[Herd12]

Terrible loss today. Pissed away a 10 point second half lead. Can't in bound the ball. Can't make fricking free throws. The whole program needs to do some soul searching and that includes the coaching staff. Dave was out coached IMO. Why isnt Dex in bounding it in a late foul situation. He shouldn't be going to the line there. Need to pull there heads out before the tourney or they might as well stay home.

Lose to the T1 team in the conference on the road by one on a last second step back three by a kid averaging single digit points scoring, and it's coach-blaming time, baby!....wuff

[silkamilkamonico]

Leave it to NDSU fans to get stupid over losses every year. I remember reading multiple posts similar to the one in this thread about the football team after USD.

NDSU is a good team. This loss doesn't change that. They certainly need to know how to put games away but it doesn't make them a bad team with bad coaching. They are currently a very inexperienced team that has dealt with some unique adversity. They have 4 conference losses by a total of 16 points. I'm pretty sure they are fully aware of losing these games in the manner they are losing. There's 2 freshman and 2 sophomores in the starting lineup, that are learning how to carry a team
for 40 minutes game after game, and also having to finish games.

These issues were masked last year because we had a stud senior who played a position in which he dominated the ball. Brown is a stud senior who doesn't dominate the ball so it's left in the hands of the young guys that are learning and they are taking their lumps along the way, which is pretty much status quo in all of college basketball.

Do people not remember that when our 2nd round, Oklahoma beating, best Bison team in program history, run by a loaded senior class, went 9-9 in conference play when they were sophomores? Other teams are trying to win in conference too.

[HerdBot]

agreed this year is about developement we are not going dancing and if we did we would be a 16 seed. Last year with LA we were a 15 and this team is no where as good as last year.

I think we are actually better than last year with Dupree. We have the exact same team as last year minus LA. He was one of my all time favorite players but this team should be better just based on returning players. It's basically the entire team returning. Unless of course last year everyone peaked, which I doubt happened. Well, maybe they didn't practice free throws this offseason

[Bisonator98]

Lose to the T1 team in the conference on the road by one on a last second step back three by a kid averaging single digit points scoring, and it's coach-blaming time, baby!....wuff

Say what you want but they should not have been in that situation and part of it was coaching. You think it was a good coaching move to have our better FT shooters in bounding the ball to one of our worst in the final seconds??? I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Most of the losses have come down to some of the same costly mistakes and they need to start learning from them. Dave and Paul admitted as much in their post game comments.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I think we are actually better than last year with Dupree. We have the exact same team as last year minus LA. He was one of my all time favorite players but this team should be better just based on returning players. It's basically the entire team returning. Unless of course last year everyone peaked, which I doubt happened. Well, maybe they didn't practice free throws this offseason

You tremendously underestimate what LA meant to this team last year. He led and would not let us give up 10-0 + runs. He had the ability shut that down with one trip down the court. We still lack that leader in our scorers. I thought Paul was going to do it and step up and he did mid season but he has faded away during the opposing teams late game runs. We looked lost when they through the zone against us. KHY tried to stop it from 7 min to 5 min but missed jumper, 3pointer and 2 missed free throws. Dex tried the last few minutes but missed jumper, missed layup and missed 3 of 4 from the line.

Against IPFW we didn't score from 7min to 1 1/2 minutes left.

USD we went for 5 minutes without scoring from that same time range 91/2 to 5 minutes. We luckily pulled out that game

We have pattern of from 10 minutes to 3-5 minutes left in the game of our game disappearing. I don't know if it is conditioning or getting complacent or what but we need to figure out that time frame in a game.

Someone needs to stand up and knock down the shots, or coaching needs to throw some different when they see it happening.

[Bison"FANatic"]

SDSU we scored 2 free throws from about 12 minutes to 5 1/2 minutes left.

Western Illinois from about 11 min to about 5 minutes we scored 6 points.

[Mr Meaty]

SDSU we scored 2 free throws from about 12 minutes to 5 1/2 minutes left.

Western Illinois from about 11 min to about 5 minutes we scored 6 points.

Ok so then my follow up question is, Did we call a time out during either of those times to discuss/change or improve what we were doing? I know coaches tend to "allow" teams to work through things. But going 5-6-7 minutes without meaningful points is not acceptable.
AJ needs to pickup his game. Over the last 4 games he has like 30 total points. Not acceptable. Don't tell me he is only a sophomore because so is P Smooth and he is scoring.

[silkamilkamonico]

Coaches get criticized for decisions they make or don't make all the time. It happens with the blue blood programs incessantly. Hell it happens with Saban at Alabama who's arguably the G.O.A.T. Belichek's decisions against Denver could have costed them a SuperBowl, and he's still the G.O.A.T. It isn't a foolproof system. Richmond isn't going to make the perfect decision all the time that will result in wins. It doesn't work like that. All a coach can do is look forward and keep trying to make the team/program better. Great thing our coach is one who seems to be good at that.

[HoopsBison]

Been avoiding this thread til now, its about what I expected. Frustrating loss for sure. We build a 10 point lead then take quick shots and turn it over the lead to direct points. This team always seems to make it difficult this season. Just need to be smarter and stay the course and build on the leads.

IUPUI may be 10-13 but they played a very tough non-conference and currently tied for first in the conference. They have defeated solid teams, credit to them. They certainly have improved and their Coach has done a nice job.

We currently sit 4-4, 3 of those losses have been on the road and very tight games. Omaha is the only team that has really controlled us. Unfortuantely this loss will likely prevent us from getting a 1 or 2 seed but I gurantee not many teams will want to play us is Sioux Falls. We need to improve in areas and go into the tournament playing our best ball.

This loss definately does sting.

[Bison"FANatic"]

Ok so then my follow up question is, Did we call a time out during either of those times to discuss/change or improve what we were doing? I know coaches tend to "allow" teams to work through things. But going 5-6-7 minutes without meaningful points is not acceptable.
AJ needs to pickup his game. Over the last 4 games he has like 30 total points. Not acceptable. Don't tell me he is only a sophomore because so is P Smooth and he is scoring.

The under 8 time out is happening right around these times. It is perplexing, If I remember right a few years ago with Brown and team this happened a lot in the first half from about 10min to 2 min.

Now you take this team which is younger and compare it to the Woodside as JR. team of 07-08 when they also had a hard time on the road in conference. They are not doing to bad. Road conference wins are tough to come by and you can see them happen more and more as the team matures but they are usually one of the last things to come around.