NDSU vs Jacksonville State Championship game

[awBison]

Should be a good game. If CJ and Champion can handle Barge and Gonzalez I say we win. I'm not too worried about CJ but
I think Champion might struggle a bit. Covering the long ball is going to be very important. It looks like Jacksonville's O line is
pretty weak so that should help us get pressure on Jenkins. Jenkins seems pretty fast and nimble though so even with pressure they
might be able to make plays. I don't see Jacksonville's D shutting down our run game like UNI did. We should be able to put
up points, control the clock, and keep Jacksonville's offense on the sidelines for a good part of the game. Should be a great game.

[Professor Chaos]

Jacksonville won't be in the title game. They're in the non-scholarship Pioneer Football League and were ineligible for the postseason this year.



....I realize I'm nitpicking but how would we like it if on their board they made a thread about playing North Dakota in Frisco?

[Kevin]

Bison win easy again. Despite "southern speed".

[jcdcubs]

Bison defense will keep Jacksonville score down just like Richmond.

[awBison]

Jacksonville won't be in the title game. They're in the non-scholarship Pioneer Football League and were ineligible for the postseason this year.



....I realize I'm nitpicking but how would we like it if on their board they made a thread about playing North Dakota in Frisco?

Yep....I was actually going to go back and add that but then forgot....maybe a mod can add State?

[Bisonator98]

As long as the Bison don't fumble it away 3 times and throw pick I think they will be OK. JSU doesn't look all that special. Their dline looks decent but not sure how good SHS's oline is either.

[SafeTeeJ]

Best scenario possible meeting JSU in the Chipper after a BIG win over SHSU. They will be "cocky"

Hope they don't get to bring their own refs like they did in 1989.

We will get no calls, so we will have to overcome that, which we will

go Bison!!!

[No_Skill]

Bison defense will keep Jacksonville score down just like Richmond.

...and proceed to get frustrated and make mistakes.

[CaBisonFan]

It's tough to get a read off of today's game with SHSU. All of the early fumbles and junk really tilted the game toward JSU. JSU looks athletic...without a doubt.

[Kevin]

I'm kind of disappointed. I was looking forward to more "National Runner-Up" Sammy shirts.

[jcdcubs]

Avoid turnovers for Bison and better referees that make good calls.

[gumby013]

Our lines will pound away on another team with soft lines used to only zone blocking.

[Kevin]

Defense wins championships. Four in a row, to be exact. Soon to be five.

[Buffalo.Rider]

Jacksonville State so far against Sam Houston State (in 3 Qtrs) has recovered 3 fumbles and caught one interception. I don't know if JSU forced these, or were just opportunistic - either way, suggests something very positive about them. The score is 55-10 Jacksonville State's favor. Their QB is (I think) the 2015 2nd Team FCS All-American. They have a couple other All-Americans. They almost beat Auburn, some say they beat themselves in the last few minutes of play, otherwise they would have won.

I think JSU will be the toughest opponent the Bison face this year. UNI was very good and might be the 2nd or 3rd best team in FCS right now, despite their slow start to find themselves (a starting QB and their best RB) and get their defense going. If UNI and JSU played, it might be interesting.

NDSU is a GREAT football team right now. I suspect Jacksonville State is too and that the championship game will be a tough test for the Bison. They better be ready to bring it, or the Bison may have their head handed to them.

[Kevin]

Jacksonville State so far (in 3 Qtrs) has recovered 3 fumbles and caught one interception. I don't know if JSU forced these, or were just opportunistic, right place at the righ time. Nevertheless, the score is 55-10 Jacksonville State's favor. Their QB is (I think) the 2015 2nd Team FCS All-American. They have a couple other All-Americans. They almost beat Auburn, some say they beat themselves in the last few minutes of play, otherwise they would have won.

I think JSU will be the toughest opponent the Bison face this year. UNI might So I

We would have embarrassed SHSU just as badly. Almost beating a terrible Auburn team isn't a feather in their hat either.

Much like Richmond and the other "southern speed" teams they are going to get beaten up. They will give up by the third quarter.

[HerdBoy]

Bison defense playing at a high level right now and going against another high powered offense in #1 Jax State. I am looking forward to this game. Drive for Five is alive. Go Bison!

[HuskerBizon]

Did SHSU play that bad or is JSU that solid

[DCinOK]

Barge's porn-star mustache bothers me.

[gumby013]

Did SHSU play that bad or is JSU that solid

SHSU couldn't do anything right, irregardless of what JSU was doing.

[MNLonghorn10]

Did SHSU play that bad or is JSU that solid

theyre solid...Sam Houston didnt play anyone to get where they were...probably one of the easiest paths to the semis.

[NovaBison]

Best scenario possible meeting JSU in the Chipper after a BIG win over SHSU. They will be "cocky"


Hopefully they take a nice long Christmas Vacation like SHSU did in 2011... they worked hard, they deserve it! :)

[tjbison]

Routine......long bye before the game, first champion ship game experience for the

Ask Towson how that worked, our guys have been there done that so any awe is gone. See a 37-21 bison win

[VirginiaBison]

3 weeks is a long long lay off. If you haven't experienced it before dealing with it can be a problem. Another problem is if you were not expecting to get to FRISCO, you may have problems getting your fans sufficient tickets to make a presence. The team that has been there many time also has experience dealing with the venue, media, and distractions. First time is a tough trip.

So, Six for Stick's 2016? or Stick for Six!

[Prime Power]

JSU looked good, but NDSU is on another level right now. Three weeks to prepare for JSU, does not bode well for them. Plus with aying in Frisco which is basically a home game for the Bison.....well they are screwed. Bison 38 JSU 17

[civilguy]

Home field is Bison country! And Friso is Fargo South, Texas


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[NDSUFREAK]

JSU tickets go on sale at 1pm tomorrow (probably eastern time). First dibs to season ticket holders so keep your eyes out for public sales.

[Olton Hall]

I didn't get to watch much of today's game but I noticed a few things about JSU. Their offense seem to receive a lot of instructions from the sidelines. This can be to the Bison's advantage as one shift of our defense will have them consulting with the sidelines to rethink their game plane. All the Bison fans in the stands will make those consultations a bit more of a challenge too. They have a good running game and can defend against a passing game. The few times SHSU ran the ball the JSU defense wasn't that strong which is an advantage for us. Their offense and defensive lines have some big players but they aren't big in a healthy sort of way. Those kinds of players lack stamina.

It will be a good, running game battle with the Bison coming out on top. The Bison's offense's ability to control of the clock will be a big factor.

[gumby013]

Doesn't hurt to try I guess. Time is noon central tomorrow.


‪#‎JSUGamecocks‬ will have an allotment of general public tickets to the FCS Championship Game available. Suite holders and season ticket holders will have priority to purchase tickets. Contact the JSU Athletic Ticket Office at 256-782-8499 on Sunday beginning at 1 p.m.

[AKBison]

Tougher matchup....Jacksonville State 2016 or Illinois State 2015? My gut says JSU because of the unknowns. Last year both teams knew exactly what they were getting into and what kind of game it would be. It was a typical MVFC game plus, they had Roberson and we all know one of our biggest weaknesses the last few years has been running qb's. IMO the game will be one or lost by their O-Line and our D-Line.

[Bison bison]

Are allotted tickets flashseats?

[1998braves64]

Historically have been paper tickets I think. But that may be changed now.
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[td577]

My early prediction is 24-13. Bison win. Jax State will score some first half points and then NDSU will lock it down in the second half. The Bison o-line will take over and just put a typical ram like beat down on them after half time. The Bison defense will settle in, make adjustments at halftime, and the game will be decided in the third quarter. I just think the relentless pressure in the trenches on both sides of the ball will be too much. The Bison have way too much experience preparing for a game like this with such a long break and our coaches know how to effectively game plan against talented offenses. I think Jax State is a good team, but no better then third or fourth in the valley. They are another school who rely on such a few guys to provide a high majority of their offensive output. Their QB alone is 1/2 their offense. Make the game difficult for him and it becomes a lot harder for them to succeed. Their running game is primarily two guys and their passing game is primarily two guys. The guys they rely on are very good, they just don't have enough to spread the ball around to make the Bison pay for stopping their main threats. It isn't so much making them one dimensional because they can either pass or run quite well, it will be about keeping their playmakers at bay and making other guys beat you. Our offense simply just has to man handle them.

[wtffootballfan]

From AGS, JSU tickets will be for season ticket holders and students first. Tuesday or Wednesday left over tickets will go up for public sale. JSU has about 2,000 season ticket holders.

[Scooter1]

Tougher matchup....Jacksonville State 2016 or Illinois State 2015? My gut says JSU because of the unknowns. Last year both teams knew exactly what they were getting into and what kind of game it would be. It was a typical MVFC game plus, they had Roberson and we all know one of our biggest weaknesses the last few years has been running qb's. IMO the game will be one or lost by their O-Line and our D-Line.

That's a good question. I'm going with JSU. I saw a lot of different players on the o line and d line for JSU and I believe there are 30 seniors on thisJSU team. That is a lot of experience.

No prediction yet, gotta dig some more.

[BisonAccountant44]

Their head coach is an interesting story, if I'm really following this timeline correctly. JSU alum who until 3 years ago had only coached at the high school level. His only college coaching experience is one year as JSU OC and 2 as HC.

That could lead to some interesting decisions around how to handle the 3 week break.

[wtffootballfan]

Have to be ready for the pooch kick.

[ndsubison1]

Jenkins is a solid QB. They seem to take what the defense gives them in the passing game. If were playing off their WRs they will run short, quick routes. Then go for the big play. Their top 2 WR are solid and made big plays vs Auburn early in the year

[Kingslayer]

This will be the toughest test for us in a championship game..gotta bring back the big gun for this one. Cough...Wentz...cough

[ACECON]

Their head coach is an interesting story, if I'm really following this timeline correctly. JSU alum who until 3 years ago had only coached at the high school level. His only college coaching experience is one year as JSU OC and 2 as HC.

That could lead to some interesting decisions around how to handle the 3 week break.

Here is his bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Grass_(American_football)

[BisonEngrGirl]

I have faith that the coaching staff will put the right QB in to give us the greatest chance of success. So many variables go into that decision including health, offensive game plan, how each QB is practicing, and how comfortable the rest of the offense feels. In reality we have no idea what's been going on with Wentz. We are so fortunate to have this problem: Stick or Wentz? At the end of the day I know that the staff will make the right decision for the team!


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[GOBISON123]

War of Words heating up....:duel:

North Dakota State's semifinal win Friday was barely finished when the Frisco mayor was texting a sports columnist at NDSU's local newspaper, the Forum of Fargo-Moorhead, expressing his pleasure that his old friends from up North will visit again. Nobody from The Anniston Star has gotten a text yet from Maher Maso, mayor of Frisco since 2008. It's like Frisco is hosting Thanksgiving and expecting Jacksonville State to be the turkey.

We like blue-collar football here in the South, and JSU is about as blue collar as you can get. The Gamecocks want to run over you on offense until.....:rimshot:


http://www.annistonstar.com/sports/mark-edwards-after-big-semifinal-win-jax-state-ready-to/article_e5ccc9fe-a6c4-11e5-bc2b-6328cc770f22.html#.VnY3HSVgG20.twitter

[gumby013]

JSU already made a mistake. They rushed the field one game too early.

http://i.imgur.com/VtOeejp.jpg

[StL Bison Fan]

Let the big talking begin. Fans do this, but players? Bad form, bad form. Reflection of their coaches
Hey @NDSUfootball , we coming for you #getcocky #StayCocky #JSUGamecocks

https://twitter.com/bmwilson01/status/678378238905683968

[BisoninNWMN]

Jacksonville State is very good. Both offensively and defensively. SHSU couldn't do anything in that game. Turnovers killed them also.

NDSU is a different animal compared to SHSU. Hard to really gauge JSU since Sammy runs the same spread/run option crap that most college teams run with OL zone blocking and they played piss poor. The Bison defense will be tested by this team but IMO, our DL will make it difficult for them.

IMO, it will come down to the Bison offense controlling the clock. NDSU can run on this team. Grind out drives and play field position. Make JSU march the whole field to score. JSU has some athletes and the Bison secondary needs to play a good game. This will be a tough game. JSU has a good fan base and averaged over 15K last year so it will be interesting to see how many are at Frisco. Probably not Towson numbers but probably what Ill State had last year.

Looking forward to a 5th straight NC game.

[OatmealWicket92]

I read that article this morning and the local media sounds a bit hungry for clicks. I look forward to beating a good team who must think they embody the SEC? You'd think guys from the southeast believe they invented football.


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[cbline]

Their head coach is an interesting story, if I'm really following this timeline correctly. JSU alum who until 3 years ago had only coached at the high school level. His only college coaching experience is one year as JSU OC and 2 as HC.

That could lead to some interesting decisions around how to handle the 3 week break.

^^^ This ^^^ Scott Miller brought this up on the post-game Friday night. In his words, NDSU already "has 98%" of the schedule made for the break until the game starts. Experience here is invaluable.

[Professor Chaos]

Lots of interesting stuff from this article: http://www.annistonstar.com/sports/jsu-notebook-tickets-for-championship-game-go-on-sale-sunday/article_3f694b0c-a6cc-11e5-a1b4-bb5c2bc91844.html#.VnaNo8X92eg.twitter


They're selling tickets to the general public but you have to be there to pick up.
They're taking 5 days off for Christmas (12/23-12/27).
And there's this gem: "North Dakota, that’s the standard,” Grass said. “Their film was the first we watched when we came here. The road goes through them to win it. We’re glad to have the opportunity."

So I wonder when they'll start watching tape on North Dakota State?

[oldmantutters]

NDSU isn't going to fumble 3 times in the first 7 minutes of the game. Keeler should be embarrassed with how shellshocked his team was with those pop up kicks. #12 looked alright but it will probably be a different story with someone actually covering him. In the end the bracket may have the two best teams playing for a championship but the way it has played out is am embarrassment and a shame to FCS football. Regionalization makes this tournament small potatoes. Congrats to JSU for making it this far more you can see how you stack up against a real opponent instead of that glorified D2 schedule you've had this year.

[tjbison]

NDSU isn't going to fumble 3 times in the first 7 minutes of the game. Keeler should be embarrassed with how shellshocked his team was with those pop up kicks. #12 looked alright but it will probably be a different story with someone actually covering him. In the end the bracket may have the two best teams playing for a championship but the way it has played out is am embarrassment and a shame to FCS football. Regionalization makes this tournament small potatoes. Congrats to JSU for making it this far more you can see how you stack up against a real opponent instead of that glorified D2 schedule you've had this year.

We are putting the ball on the turf a lot more than years past, they are typical in their guys go for the strip first then the tackle.

So yes we could fumble if we are not ready, ball security has been suspect this year and against this team it's lethal

[THEsocalledfan]

Lots of interesting stuff from this article: http://www.annistonstar.com/sports/jsu-notebook-tickets-for-championship-game-go-on-sale-sunday/article_3f694b0c-a6cc-11e5-a1b4-bb5c2bc91844.html#.VnaNo8X92eg.twitter


They're selling tickets to the general public but you have to be there to pick up.
They're taking 5 days off for Christmas (12/23-12/27).


And there's this gem: "North Dakota, that’s the standard,” Grass said. “Their film was the first we watched when we came here. The road goes through them to win it. We’re glad to have the opportunity."

So I wonder when they'll start watching tape on North Dakota State?

Wow, if lived in that area, I'd be trying to buy 200, and then sell them for $100 a pop here on Bisonville. easy money.

[HerdBoy]

NDSU isn't going to fumble 3 times in the first 7 minutes of the game. Keeler should be embarrassed with how shellshocked his team was with those pop up kicks. #12 looked alright but it will probably be a different story with someone actually covering him. In the end the bracket may have the two best teams playing for a championship but the way it has played out is am embarrassment and a shame to FCS football. Regionalization makes this tournament small potatoes. Congrats to JSU for making it this far more you can see how you stack up against a real opponent instead of that glorified D2 schedule you've had this year.


They played 3 teams with winning records during regular season and the only ranked team they played all year was Chattanooga and Char Southern in the playoffs. Auburn finished the year at 6-6. Are they going to be prepared to play football for 4 quarters?

[awBison]

Off topic but does anyone know how I can register at anygivensaturday? I get a "sorry, registration has been disabled by administrator" error when I click on the 'register' link.

[Bison 4 Life]

Off topic but does anyone know how I can register at anygivensaturday? I get a "sorry, registration has been disabled by administrator" error when I click on the 'register' link.

I'll drop the admin a note and see whats up.

[GreenfieldBison]

They played 3 teams with winning records during regular season and the only ranked team they played all year was Chattanooga and Char Southern in the playoffs. Auburn finished the year at 6-6. Are they going to be prepared to play football for 4 quarters?

Their linemen looked to me as if their girth around the belly is larger than the chest. I would guess that if the Bison O put down one of those 8 minute drives their DL would be about done. That Barge kid made some very nice catches as did Gonzalez but I just don't see the Bison DL allowing their QB that much time to find his targets and make an accurate throw. I think the Bison roll....

[wtffootballfan]

Off topic but does anyone know how I can register at anygivensaturday? I get a "sorry, registration has been disabled by administrator" error when I click on the 'register' link.

He turns it off for the Decemberist's.

[tjbison]

Wow, if lived in that area, I'd be trying to buy 200, and then sell them for $100 a pop here on Bisonville. easy money.

Apparently jsu fans all graduate and live right in the vicinity....kind of alienated anyone wanting to go but doesn't live there

[westnodak93bison]

Apparently jsu fans all graduate and love right in the vicinity....kind of alienated anyone wanting to go but doesn't live there
Why didn't they just say no ticket sales to folks with a zip code above the Mason-Dixon line? #damnyankees

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[westnodak93bison]

Extended forecast goes out to 1/3/16 on AccuWeather. High of 53, low of 33

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[OatmealWicket92]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/20/49fe83dcc7fb112b9896f587ea9531b4.jpg

Yeah this team won't be ready for 4 full quarters. If we keep it close the 1st 2qtrs I think they will let us roll the 2nd half


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[Bison 4 Life]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/20/49fe83dcc7fb112b9896f587ea9531b4.jpg

Yeah this team won't be ready for 4 full quarters. If we keep it close the 1st 2qtrs I think they will let us roll the 2nd half


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When talking about JSU, please only use the 2 Chatty games and the worst Auburn team in decades as a reference. The rest of their schedule is as tough as wet toilet paper.

This will be the best team they've played by a million miles.

[awBison]

I'll drop the admin a note and see whats up.

Thanks much!

[tony]

When talking about JSU, please only use the 2 Chatty games and the worst Auburn team in decades as a reference. The rest of their schedule is as tough as wet toilet paper.

This will be the best team they've played by a million miles.

Bad Auburn is still very good. And Chatty is the most-talented team in the FCS every year (or so I have read.)

[OatmealWicket92]

When talking about JSU, please only use the 2 Chatty games and the worst Auburn team in decades as a reference. The rest of their schedule is as tough as wet toilet paper.

This will be the best team they've played by a million miles.

Yeah I agree. I just thought it was interesting to see the whole season they don't get thought later in the game.


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[3Putt]

They played 3 teams with winning records during regular season and the only ranked team they played all year was Chattanooga and Char Southern in the playoffs. Auburn finished the year at 6-6. Are they going to be prepared to play football for 4 quarters?



Record Sagarin
Opponent Score W L Rank Predictor
@Chattanooga 23 29 9 4 95 61.51
@Auburn (FBS) 20 27 6 6 36 76.07
Tennessee State 48 13 4 6 204 37.57
@Tennessee-Martin 48 41 7 4 135 49.9
Miss Valley St 49 7 1 10 251 8.66
@Tennessee Tech 42 13 4 7 203 37.46
@Austin Peay 27 7 0 11 238 24.7
Eastern Kentucky 34 0 6 5 140 50.51
@Eastern Illinois 24 3 7 5 130 54.31
SEMO 56 28 4 7 169 47.85
Murray State 42 20 3 8 201 40.22
Chattanooga 41 35 9 4 95 61.51
Charleston Southern 58 38 10 3 121 54.65
Sam Houston State 62 10 11 4 101 58.64
NDSU 12 2 51 73.49


5 games against teams with a Sagarin ranking over 200.

[Bison 4 Life]

Bad Auburn is still very good. And Chatty is the most-talented team in the FCS every year (or so I have read.)

Good, yes. Probably not very good.

I will give JSU some credit but the usual take an opponent lightly getting caught off guard had to come into play a little bit.

I'll openly admit that's what our KSU win was.

[Professor Chaos]

Chatty is kind of like NDSU-lite. Good physical line play, solid defense, and solid running game. Their QB Huesman is better than Stick is but he's a senior and everything else about NDSU is better.

Chatty gave JSU all they could handle twice. I'm going to watch that JSU/UTC playoff game replay on ESPN3 just to get an idea of what they did well to nearly pull the upset but I think it bodes well for how NDSU matches up with the Cocks.

[MNLonghorn10]

JSU already made a mistake. They rushed the field one game too early.

http://i.imgur.com/VtOeejp.jpg

they need to act like they've been there before!

[gumby013]

Anyone have a count on how many FBS transfers they have on the roster?

[westnodak93bison]

5dimes has the Bison favored by 3

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[MNLonghorn10]

Record Sagarin
Opponent Score W L Rank Predictor
@Chattanooga 23 29 9 4 95 61.51
@Auburn (FBS) 20 27 6 6 36 76.07
Tennessee State 48 13 4 6 204 37.57
@Tennessee-Martin 48 41 7 4 135 49.9
Miss Valley St 49 7 1 10 251 8.66
@Tennessee Tech 42 13 4 7 203 37.46
@Austin Peay 27 7 0 11 238 24.7
Eastern Kentucky 34 0 6 5 140 50.51
@Eastern Illinois 24 3 7 5 130 54.31
SEMO 56 28 4 7 169 47.85
Murray State 42 20 3 8 201 40.22
Chattanooga 41 35 9 4 95 61.51
Charleston Southern 58 38 10 3 121 54.65
Sam Houston State 62 10 11 4 101 58.64
NDSU 12 2 51 73.49


5 games against teams with a Sagarin ranking over 200.
that is absolutely horrifying.

[Bison 4 Life]

5dimes has the Bison favored by 3

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Oh noes, the horror! They were the #1 seed! The disrespect!

Any coincidence that's the margin for home field advantage?

[Bison 4 Life]

that is absolutely horrifying.

OVC's gonna OVC

[DCinOK]

What are everyone's thoughts on Jenkins compared to Bailey or Roberson? Both Bailey and Roberson seemed more dangerous as runners...more scary in breaking a long one.

[DM05]

What are everyone's thoughts on Jenkins compared to Bailey or Roberson? Both Bailey and Roberson seemed more dangerous as runners...more scary in breaking a long one.

Jenkins seems to have similar speed, but not nearly as physical as Bailey. Also seems to be a bit better passer than either of them, which isn't really saying too much. Roberson and Bailey aren't exactly known for their passing skills.

Jenkins hasn't had to play against a physical defense either. They remind me a bit of last year's ISUr offense: read option plus some downfield deep shots. Defend the read option with the DE staying home and hit the QB every chance we get. Do that and we will see how good he really is.

They are all pumped up about scoring 62 points on the 83rd ranked defense in FCS. We will be the only team they play this year that can match their physicality, much less plays more physical.

[3Putt]

that is absolutely horrifying.
Yeah, that's like 5 games with Missouri State (#223).

[bri-dog]

Anyone have a count on how many FBS transfers they have on the roster?

Had to click on every bio, so I may have counted wrong, but I got 13.

I should have thought to write down who they are and where they transferred from, but oh well...

[DM05]

Yeah, that's like 5 games with Missouri State (#223).

If we played their schedule against Sagarin equivalent teams from this year, here is what I come up with:

Auburn, SDSU x 2, Richmond, Indiana State x 2, Southern Illinois, UND, Weber State, and Missouri State x 5.

Edit: So basically, Auburn plus 8 games against teams we beat this year by a combined 154 points, plus 5 Missouri State games.

[westnodak93bison]

On the coaches show Jeremy said they pretty much have an SEC drop down defensive line.

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[Professor Chaos]

Jenkins seems to have similar speed, but not nearly as physical as Bailey. Also seems to be a bit better passer than either of them, which isn't really saying too much. Roberson and Bailey aren't exactly known for their passing skills.

Jenkins hasn't had to play against a physical defense either. They remind me a bit of last year's ISUr offense: read option plus some downfield deep shots. Defend the read option with the DE staying home and hit the QB every chance we get. Do that and we will see how good he really is.

They are all pumped up about scoring 62 points on the 83rd ranked defense in FCS. We will be the only team they play this year that can match their physicality, much less plays more physical.
This year Roberson was limited as a passer, probably due to a combination of his thumb injury and losing two very good WRs, but last year he was among the most efficient passers in the nation. I think Jenkins/Pope in 2015 are very similar to Roberson/Coprich in 2014. Overall JSU this year seems very similar to ISUr last year. The difference between the two teams is I think JSU has a better front 7 defensively than ISUr had last year.

[BisonAccountant44]

Anyone have a count on how many FBS transfers they have on the roster?
On their board they said 13

[RonMexico]

War of Words heating up....:duel:

North Dakota State's semifinal win Friday was barely finished when the Frisco mayor was texting a sports columnist at NDSU's local newspaper, the Forum of Fargo-Moorhead, expressing his pleasure that his old friends from up North will visit again. Nobody from The Anniston Star has gotten a text yet from Maher Maso, mayor of Frisco since 2008. It's like Frisco is hosting Thanksgiving and expecting Jacksonville State to be the turkey.

We like blue-collar football here in the South, and JSU is about as blue collar as you can get. The Gamecocks want to run over you on offense until.....:rimshot:


http://www.annistonstar.com/sports/mark-edwards-after-big-semifinal-win-jax-state-ready-to/article_e5ccc9fe-a6c4-11e5-bc2b-6328cc770f22.html#.VnY3HSVgG20.twitter

My favorite quote from that article is "But the Bison haven't played a team from the southeast in the finals." So the southeast hasn't had a team good enough to get the finals in what, ten years, and the Bison should be concerned they are playing a team from the southeast? :rofl:

[OatmealWicket92]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/20/26f956f6243689261d39b3b425fd5594.jpg

Only two teams this year outside the top 150 for us. Most games though were against teams ranked 120 and better. Most of JSU games were against teams 130 or worse. And when they did play a team similar to us in chatty they had a win by 3 pts and an OT win. And Chattanooga is not even close to our level of consistency.


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[gumby013]

My favorite quote from that article is "But the Bison haven't played a team from the southeast in the finals." So the southeast hasn't had a team good enough to get the finals in what, ten years, and the Bison should be concerned they are playing a team from the southeast? :rofl:

We just beat the team from the capitol of the south. I think we are covered.

[StL Bison Fan]

They want to run over you on offense? Ok then. Our guys think its fun to stop the run. I think our eight legged friends would agree. Game could go either way.
But I have followed the OVC since my college days, so that is many, many years (dont ask how many, it is not polite)
Of watching very bad football. JSU is gonna have to Show Me

[gumby013]

I see this game going like Sam Houston #2, including the botched PAT excitement.

[Professor Chaos]

My favorite YouTube channel has the JSU/UTC playoff game up:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPOJgK8u5Ms

Even if you don't want to watch the game, the ending is pretty good when Chatty's coach goes off on JSU's coach at the midfield postgame handshake and the UTC fans and JSU players also get into it in the corner of the field by JSU's band.

[Bison Gal]

Interesting reading various sites.....seems like it's NDSU against the world. ��

One thing I've noticed watching JSU game is some of the JSU players seem very cocky (no pun intended). I admire how humble, focused and team-oriented our Bison men are....great representatives for the school and program.

[ndsubison1]

So youre saying it's their first time to Frisco? hehe. But remember they scored a lot on Charleston Southern, the #2 defense. Lol.

[CaBisonFan]

The writer from the Anniston Star says it's Jacksonville State's turn. We don't take turns.

[StL Bison Fan]

The writer from the Anniston Star says it's Jacksonville State's turn. We don't take turns.

How sweet of him. Or how elementary school of him...

[Wally]

Interesting reading various sites.....seems like it's NDSU against the world. ��

One thing I've noticed watching JSU game is some of the JSU players seem very cocky (no pun intended). I admire how humble, focused and team-oriented our Bison men are....great representatives for the school and program.

Obligatory

http://i.imgur.com/j7hrcgw.gif

[JMB]

War of Words heating up....:duel:

North Dakota State's semifinal win Friday was barely finished when the Frisco mayor was texting a sports columnist at NDSU's local newspaper, the Forum of Fargo-Moorhead, expressing his pleasure that his old friends from up North will visit again. Nobody from The Anniston Star has gotten a text yet from Maher Maso, mayor of Frisco since 2008. It's like Frisco is hosting Thanksgiving and expecting Jacksonville State to be the turkey.

We like blue-collar football here in the South, and JSU is about as blue collar as you can get. The Gamecocks want to run over you on offense until.....:rimshot:


http://www.annistonstar.com/sports/mark-edwards-after-big-semifinal-win-jax-state-ready-to/article_e5ccc9fe-a6c4-11e5-bc2b-6328cc770f22.html#.VnY3HSVgG20.twitter

Wow, did that dude used to write for tge Grand Forks Herald?

[MAKBison]

My favorite quote from that article is "But the Bison haven't played a team from the southeast in the finals." So the southeast hasn't had a team good enough to get the finals in what, ten years, and the Bison should be concerned they are playing a team from the southeast? :rofl:

By Mark Edwards, Sports Editor, medwards@annistonstar.com
JACKSONVILLE -- Good luck, North Dakota State.
You'll need it. Jacksonville State is coming for you.
It doesn't much matter that you've won the last four national titles in the Football Championship Subdivision......

[tjbison]

Nothing wrong with them being confident, they have earned it with a great season, hope it's a good game

[Bisonguy]

My favorite YouTube channel has the JSU/UTC playoff game up:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPOJgK8u5Ms

Even if you don't want to watch the game, the ending is pretty good when Chatty's coach goes off on JSU's coach at the midfield postgame handshake and the UTC fans and JSU players also get into it in the corner of the field by JSU's band.

Did I see that correctly that JSU's Oline averages 284? What's the deal with their guts then, or is it a case of fat being less dense than muscle?


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[wtffootballfan]

A bunch of "we almost beat Auburn B.S." on AGS. Three weeks of this will get very old.

[td577]

A bunch of "we almost beat Auburn B.S." on AGS. Three weeks of this will get very old.
I've never been to AGS. It doesn't feel like I'm missing anything.

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[kristind]

Did I see that correctly that JSU's Oline averages 284? What's the deal with their guts then, or is it a case of fat being less dense than muscle?


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I agree...my husband even walked through the room when I was watching the game, took one look at their line and said, "yeah....that's not going to hold up to 4 quarters of Bison football"..... I feel like they are coming in so high from that big win and this year's record against generally weaker teams that I wonder how they will handle it if they are down in points or when they have that " oh, shit" moment realizing how relentless our guys are. Will they be able to take the adversity and roll? They haven't faced much adversity right? Any being cocky is literally their school motto......As fans we have the luxury of being able to come across like we are underestimating opponents, but we also have the comfort of knowing that our guys don't underestimate anyone. I don't think JMU has any idea what they will be walking into.

[gumby013]

My favorite YouTube channel has the JSU/UTC playoff game up:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPOJgK8u5Ms

Even if you don't want to watch the game, the ending is pretty good when Chatty's coach goes off on JSU's coach at the midfield postgame handshake and the UTC fans and JSU players also get into it in the corner of the field by JSU's band.

What a defensive shit-show.

[gumby013]

Did I see that correctly that JSU's Oline averages 284? What's the deal with their guts then, or is it a case of fat being less dense than muscle?


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They are also a couple inches shorter across the board.

[Bisonguy]

They are also a couple inches shorter across the board.

So our starting DT are bigger than their O line average? And by bigger I mean height and weight, not circumference.


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[bri-dog]

So our starting DT are bigger than their O line average? And by bigger I mean height and weight, not circumference.


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How'd they get so big around? Too much pi?

[Hammerhead]

How'd they get so big around? Too much pi?

http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/7778734_f260.jpg

[Bisonguy]

How'd they get so big around? Too much pi?

I'm guessing it was more the r squared, but in this case the r stands for returns to the buffet.


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[gumby013]

How'd they get so big around? Too much pi?

That and the Golden Corral Chocolate Wonderfall.

[OatmealWicket92]

That and the Golden Corral Chocolate Wonderfall.

Too many piggly wiggly stops?


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[wtffootballfan]

Does anybody know what the point spread is?

[gumby013]

Does anybody know what the point spread is?

-3

No over/under yet.

https://www.5dimes.eu/livelines/livelines.aspx

[Professor Chaos]

Everything you wanted to know (and probably more) in terms of how these two teams stack up by 25 different statistical categories. The rank is the FCS national rank (out of 123 teams).



NDSU Rank JSU Rank
Points per game 34.8 16 41.0 6
Points allowed per game 15.7 6 18.7 12
Yards per game 426.2 26 529.2 2
Yards allowed per game 276.3 3 294.7 11
Rushing yards per game 240.6 12 311.7 3
Rushing yards allowed per game 101.4 7 116.6 16
Average per rush attempt 5.1 15 6.3 3
Passing yards per game 185.6 79 217.5 51
Passing yards allowed per game 174.9 14 178.1 17
Team passing efficieny 155.3 9 136.9 31
Team pass effeciency defense 103.6 12 103.3 11
Average time of possession 36:17 1 32:13 23
Turnover margin +4 T33 +8 T16
Penalty yards per game 48.3 27 62.6 86
3rd down conversion % 45.7% 13 45.4% 18
3rd down conversion defense 25.8% 2 28.7% 6
Kick return average 29.5 1 19.8 82
Kick return defense 19.2 37 22.8 94
Net punting 39.4 4 36.6 32
Punt return average 11.8 24 9.5 T44
Redzone offense scoring % 81.5% T42 84.7% 26
Redzone defense scoring % 85.2% T98 82.4% 76
Tackes for loss per game 5.1 95 9.3 4
Sacks per game 2.2 45 2.9 14
Sacks allowed per game 1.1 21 1.2 25


NDSU with the edge in 14 of 25 of these categories.

[wtffootballfan]

Thank you.

[EC8CH]

How many FBS transfers does the JSU band have? No way can they be as good as advertised without a large number of SEC transfers.

[StL Bison Fan]

I just began watching the jsu- shsu game. How can you recover losing the opening fumble? Geez

[Bison 4 Life]

I just began watching the jsu- shsu game. How can you recover losing the opening fumble? Geez
See us against UNI a couple years ago. Stout defense.

[3Putt]

Everything you wanted to know (and probably more) in terms of how these two teams stack up by 25 different statistical categories. The rank is the FCS national rank (out of 123 teams).



NDSU Rank JSU Rank
Points per game 34.8 16 41.0 6
Points allowed per game 15.7 6 18.7 12
Yards per game 426.2 26 529.2 2
Yards allowed per game 276.3 3 294.7 11
Rushing yards per game 240.6 12 311.7 3
Rushing yards allowed per game 101.4 7 116.6 16
Average per rush attempt 5.1 15 6.3 3
Passing yards per game 185.6 79 217.5 51
Passing yards allowed per game 174.9 14 178.1 17
Team passing efficieny 155.3 9 136.9 31
Team pass effeciency defense 103.6 12 103.3 11
Average time of possession 36:17 1 32:13 23
Turnover margin +4 T33 +8 T16
Penalty yards per game 48.3 27 62.6 86
3rd down conversion % 45.7% 13 45.4% 18
3rd down conversion defense 25.8% 2 28.7% 6
Kick return average 29.5 1 19.8 82
Kick return defense 19.2 37 22.8 94
Net punting 39.4 4 36.6 32
Punt return average 11.8 24 9.5 T44
Redzone offense scoring % 81.5% T42 84.7% 26
Redzone defense scoring % 85.2% T98 82.4% 76
Tackes for loss per game 5.1 95 9.3 4
Sacks per game 2.2 45 2.9 14
Sacks allowed per game 1.1 21 1.2 25


NDSU with the edge in 14 of 25 of these categories.

One more to look at is strength of schedule. NDSU 55.41 (#133 out of 253 all D1), JSU 48.27 (#166). Kind of a "degree of difficulty" multiplier.

[Bison Fin]

How many FBS transfers does the JSU band have? No way can they be as good as advertised without a large number of SEC transfers.

It was posted earlier that they have 13

[EC8CH]

It was posted earlier that they have 13

Mostly in the brass section, or some woodwinds too?

[GreenfieldBison]

http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/7778734_f260.jpg

I get them. And it's true. :(

[tony]

Everything you wanted to know (and probably more) in terms of how these two teams stack up by 25 different statistical categories. The rank is the FCS national rank (out of 123 teams).



NDSU Rank JSU Rank
Points per game 34.8 16 41.0 6
Points allowed per game 15.7 6 18.7 12
Yards per game 426.2 26 529.2 2
Yards allowed per game 276.3 3 294.7 11
Rushing yards per game 240.6 12 311.7 3
Rushing yards allowed per game 101.4 7 116.6 16
Average per rush attempt 5.1 15 6.3 3
Passing yards per game 185.6 79 217.5 51
Passing yards allowed per game 174.9 14 178.1 17
Team passing efficieny 155.3 9 136.9 31
Team pass effeciency defense 103.6 12 103.3 11
Average time of possession 36:17 1 32:13 23
Turnover margin +4 T33 +8 T16
Penalty yards per game 48.3 27 62.6 86
3rd down conversion % 45.7% 13 45.4% 18
3rd down conversion defense 25.8% 2 28.7% 6
Kick return average 29.5 1 19.8 82
Kick return defense 19.2 37 22.8 94
Net punting 39.4 4 36.6 32
Punt return average 11.8 24 9.5 T44
Redzone offense scoring % 81.5% T42 84.7% 26
Redzone defense scoring % 85.2% T98 82.4% 76
Tackes for loss per game 5.1 95 9.3 4
Sacks per game 2.2 45 2.9 14
Sacks allowed per game 1.1 21 1.2 25


NDSU with the edge in 14 of 25 of these categories.

Yeah, but I wonder how many games their starters sat out the fourth quarter? That might skew the stats.

On the flip side, NDSU's schedule was tougher...

On the flip, flip side, but Auburn.

[Bison Fin]

Mostly in the brass section, or some woodwinds too?

Oh man I have a reading problem. I am not a smart man. In all seriousness, getting sec band transfers is no way to have continuing success. Those fools have nothing on the pride of North Dakota

[Bisonguy]

Meh, don't know where they were getting the 285 average for the JSU Oline. Looks like they go 295, 310, 285, 320, 290. Of course their heights are a little shorter, 6-4, 6-4, 6-3, 6-1, and 6-3.

[gumby013]

Someone is happy are going back.

http://imgur.com/QsYiN1D.jpg

[1st&TennBison]

The JSU fans on AGS seem more worried about their band (of close to 500) being able to go than how the football team is going to do.

[StL Bison Fan]

The JSU fans on AGS seem more worried about their band (of close to 500) being able to go than how the football team is going to do.

They could have sent the band to play SHSU.
I am going to cut them slack. Unless you have been there, you really dont know what to expect.
From tailgating, to the band, to school 'sections', you really have no idea until you go.

[Bison bison]

I'd be pissed if I was a booster and lost my seat to the 13th trombone player.

[NDSUSR]

The JSU fans on AGS seem more worried about their band (of close to 500) being able to go than how the football team is going to do.

It would be great if NDSU fans just stayed off AGS for a few weeks and let the haters argue amongst themselves.

[Bison 4 Life]

Off topic but does anyone know how I can register at anygivensaturday? I get a "sorry, registration has been disabled by administrator" error when I click on the 'register' link.

PM me an email and I'll pass it along to the admin. They have been getting hundreds of spam registrations so they closed it to invite only.

[Green1]

It would be great if NDSU fans just stayed off AGS for a few weeks and let the haters argue amongst themselves.


Agree completely! Let them have band smack, #buttAuburn and how we have "never seen anything like their team" talk.

If Bison fans went strangely "dark" on AGS, it would be interesting.

[tjbison]

Agree completely! Let them have band smack, #buttAuburn and how we have "never seen anything like their team" talk.

If Bison fans went strangely "dark" on AGS, it would be interesting.

Bison fans going quiet....lol

[gumby013]

On O, I'm expecting to see lots of formations with Cyr and Bonnet in the backfield; and the delta formation. Lots and lots of the delta formation.

[IBleedYellow]

I'm off of AGS for a while.

I seriously can't stand Jax State fans even a bit. SHSU really had to shit the bed, didn't they?

[Bison56]

I'm off of AGS for a while.

I seriously can't stand Jax State fans even a bit. SHSU really had to shit the bed, didn't they?
I'm with ya I just learned my lesson.

As for the game I don't see them slowing down the power game. As soon as they had to play some decent teams they got run over.

[bri-dog]

I'll probably cut down on my volume over there too. Of course, it's hard to cut back too much, with 64 posts in 7 1/2 years...:)

[gumby013]

Let the band go Stanford style. Anybody me is welcome to join. Knowing how to play an instrument is optional.

[tony]

I'm off of AGS for a while.

I seriously can't stand Jax State fans even a bit. SHSU really had to shit the bed, didn't they?

Well, some of the news ones are a bit much but not that many Bison fans show anybody any respect over there. Anyway, Cocky is a good poster.

[IBleedYellow]

I'm with ya I just learned my lesson.

As for the game I don't see them slowing down the power game. As soon as they had to play some decent teams they got run over.

I honestly think we're going to utterly destroy them. They are coming in with so much emotion and cockiness.

The second our team starts leaning on them and they start realizing they can't compete, they will get chippy and those emotions are going to cause them to make more mistakes, causing a waterfall effect.

[IBleedYellow]

Well, some of the news ones are a bit much but not that many Bison fans show anybody any respect over there. Anyway, Cocky is a good poster.

Cocky has been around a time or two, he's good. The rest are terrible.

[StL Bison Fan]

So, i got through one half (barely) of the JSU/SHSU game.
Sam is really really bad. Where in the world do they find players that have such skinny little legs and run like they have a pants full?
Who knows how this will turn out. But i suspect I know.
8 peat?

[westnodak93bison]

I don't think we can beat them in the pompons

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[IndyBison]

CAA crew will work the game

[Bison 4 Life]

This might be discussed elsewhere. Is there a reason to not go for 2 every time? I mean, if you succeed on 50% it's the same thing.

[westnodak93bison]

CAA crew will work the game
Is that good or bad?

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[A1pigskin]

So, i got through one half (barely) of the JSU/SHSU game.
Sam is really really bad. Where in the world do they find players that have such skinny little legs and run like they have a pants full?
Who knows how this will turn out. But i suspect I know.
8 peat?

That's funny stuff right there.

[Professor Chaos]

CAA crew will work the game
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_ODcECzxGQ/T4sMKffGa8I/AAAAAAAAA88/LnQ8Dvynqbg/s1600/michael-scott-no.gif

Anyone remember the last time we had a CAA crew for a Bison playoff game?

HINT: Think tipped pass by the LB with 12' arms.


Is that good or bad?

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See above. You tell me. ;)

[1st&TennBison]

CAA crew will work the game

Game will be called off by the officials on account of "Hatred" for either schools conference.

[gumby013]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_ODcECzxGQ/T4sMKffGa8I/AAAAAAAAA88/LnQ8Dvynqbg/s1600/michael-scott-no.gif

Anyone remember the last time we had a CAA crew for a Bison playoff game?

HINT: Think tipped pass by the LB with 12' arms.


See above. You tell me. ;)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/tippednot.jpg

[IndyBison]

Is that good or bad?

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Neither. I'm assuming every conference has very good officials and theoretically their best would be selected for this game. They would have already worked one postseason game and were selected based on their performance in that game. The MVFC gets shut out again thanks to the Bison. A couple friends could have possibly worked the game if Richmond had won.

[IndyBison]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_ODcECzxGQ/T4sMKffGa8I/AAAAAAAAA88/LnQ8Dvynqbg/s1600/michael-scott-no.gif

Anyone remember the last time we had a CAA crew for a Bison playoff game?

HINT: Think tipped pass by the LB with 12' arms.


See above. You tell me. ;)
Pretty safe to assume that crew didn't work again last year

[westnodak93bison]

Pretty safe to assume that crew didn't work again last year
Do you think refs call things differently from conference to conference?

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[VirginiaBison]

If they are from the CAA, they probably aren't familiar with physical play.... expect a lot of flags

[ZHerd]

Do you think refs call things differently from conference to conference?

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No but some might have a nice sounding accent over the com

[IndyBison]

Do you think refs call things differently from conference to conference?

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There shouldn't be much variation but there could be some differences. Some may be more technical on things like holding, DPI, and procedural fouls. For example, some supervisors may want the quick snap down by linemen on short yardage situations to be flagged as a false start every time (it should be) and others will say to let it go unless the defense jumps. There are some gray areas and different supervisors could have different philosophies.

[BlueBisonRock]

They want to run over you on offense? Ok then. Our guys think its fun to stop the run. I think our eight legged friends would agree. Game could go either way.
But I have followed the OVC since my college days, so that is many, many years (dont ask how many, it is not polite)
Of watching very bad football. JSU is gonna have to Show Me

We don't need to know how many years you have been following. We already know that you need to take off your shoes to get through a part of the counting.

[BlueBisonRock]

A bunch of "we almost beat Auburn B.S." on AGS. Three weeks of this will get very old.

Butt Bama...

[Bison56]

The biggest accomplishment if you ask is losing to Auburn.

[Bisonguy]

The biggest accomplishment if you ask is losing to Auburn.

Chea, I just saw that they're declaring they faced 3 top defenses in the playoffs. The 34th, 39th, and 72nd ranked scoring defenses must have been a real gauntlet to run through.

[NDSU1980]

-3

No over/under yet.

https://www.5dimes.eu/livelines/livelines.aspx

With that low a spread a guy should be betting on the Bison heavily before the points start to rise.

[Green1]

Bison fans going quiet....lol


:facepalm: My bad....

[Bison 4 Life]

I'm off of AGS for a while.

I seriously can't stand Jax State fans even a bit. SHSU really had to shit the bed, didn't they?

They are going to be the worst of all of the finals opponents the way they are starting.

[Buffalo.Rider]

I like the Bison's chances. They are playing great defense right now.

We have seen games, including playoff and championship games, in the past where great running backs, and receivers, have come in and the sports prognosticators (appropriately so) predicted that they would pose problems for the Bison. Yet the Bison have proven them wrong. Zach Zenner - now an NFL running back - never had a big game against the Bison, and got stuffed to his lowest output of the year a couple of times. Weineke - WR SDSU - was 1st team All American this year and did very little against the Bison. The (now) NFL running back from Towson - what was his name, West? - had low yardage in the 2013 championship game. And in the last three playoff games, the Bison have held teams to season lows.

On the other hand, the Redbirds in the championship game last year - their two best players played well, got good yardage. And the long touchdown catch late in the game was a breakdown by the Bison defense. I am sure there are other examples against other teams where they did well against the Bison even if the Bison won.

Jacksonville State - pretty formidable. Data, statistics, don't tell the whole story, but I liked seeing the comparison chart posted earlier. Looks pretty even based on that.

JSU deserves respect. While I hope the game is well in hand by the 4th quarter, I won't be surprised if this is a close one.
I am not inclined to predict an outcome - I don't know enough.

[JMB]

I've never been to AGS. It doesn't feel like I'm missing anything.

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AGS is a lot like Camelot from The Holy Grail.

[DakotaOkie]

They are going to be the worst of all of the finals opponents the way they are starting.

Reading some of the AGS threads, it looks most of the garbage is being spewed by a single "band" member and some folks are rising to the bait yet others are trying to have intelligent conversations. No point arguing with drunks or other mentally impaired folks, it just brings one down to their level. It reminds me of a poster I once saw that said "arguing with some folks is just like trying to keep a hog out of a mud hole; after a while you realize they both just enjoy it!".

[bisonhp330]

The Chive has good timing

http://thechive.com/2015/12/20/a-few-random-facts-about-texas-that-you-may-not-have-known-25-photos/

[Bison56]

Just remember no matter what we still have to live in Fargo. :facepalm:

[MNLonghorn10]

Their board is an abortion filled with mouth breathers.

words cant even explain how stupid some their people are. Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas....that whole region of America, is annually ranked at or near the bottom for the dumbest states in the country.


I read a post where one would take their top 2 qb's over NDSU's.

Another one i read was that yea NDSU has won 4 national championships...but none have come against JSU(wtf?)

Also JSU played 3 of the toughest defenses in the country and put up 120 points or whatever. No...you just played a semi decent team. Not a team that makes up your sept-nov schedule.

Their conference as a whole, is the 24th ranked conference. The MVC as a whole is 15th, ahead of many FBS divisions. Albeit not very good ones, but still. The OVC is ranked behind the southland, MVC, Big Sky and CAA. such a joke.

Has there ever been a time where the 3 seed has been 6 point favorites over the "#1" in the championship?

I mean, words cant even...that side of the bracket was such a sham.

[tjbison]

Just remember no matter what we still have to live in Fargo. :facepalm:

Every fan base throws this out......every one

The cap is spewed all over...only reason people watch football is because they all know there is nothing else to do.etc..etc...

[Bison 4 Life]

Their board is an abortion filled with mouth breathers.

words cant even explain how stupid some their people are. Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas....that whole region of America, is annually ranked at or near the bottom for the dumbest states in the country.


I read a post where one would take their top 2 qb's over NDSU's.

Another one i read was that yea NDSU has won 4 national championships...but none have come against JSU(wtf?)

Also JSU played 3 of the toughest defenses in the country and put up 120 points or whatever. No...you just played a semi decent team. Not a team that makes up your sept-nov schedule.

Their conference as a whole, is the 24th ranked conference. The MVC as a whole is 15th, ahead of many FBS divisions. Albeit not very good ones, but still. The OVC is ranked behind the southland, MVC, Big Sky and CAA. such a joke.

Has there ever been a time where the 3 seed has been 6 point favorites over the "#1" in the championship?

I mean, words cant even...that side of the bracket was such a sham.

Honestly, I thought it was Jacksonville, FL until last year. Then I realized it was Sisterfuck, Alabama.

[Bison56]

Every fan base throws this out......every one

The cap is spewed all over...only reason people watch football is because they all know there is nothing else to do.etc..etc...

Yep they do.

[td577]

Every fan base throws this out......every one

The cap is spewed all over...only reason people watch football is because they all know there is nothing else to do.etc..etc...
Over/under on these until January 9th and a few days beyond if we win:

1. Why would anyone live in Fargo?
2. Of course you have a huge following, there is nothing else to do.
3. You people are fat.
4. At least we don't have to go back to North Dakota.
5. Butt auburn.
6. Butt #1 seed.
7. You betcha.
8. Southern speed.
9. Fbs transfers. (I don't even know if their program has any).
10. NDSU is just plain lucky.

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[MNLonghorn10]

Honestly, I thought it was Jacksonville, FL until last year. Then I realized it was Sisterfuck, Alabama.

same here. Never knew there was such thing as pud Jacksonville Alabama.

[tjbison]

Over/under on these until January 9th and a few days beyond if we win:

1. Why would anyone live in Fargo?
2. Of course you have a huge following, there is nothing else to do.
3. You people are fat.
4. At least we don't have to go back to North Dakota.
5. Butt auburn.
6. Butt #1 seed.
7. You betcha.
8. Southern speed.
9. Fbs transfers. (I don't even know if their program has any).
10. NDSU is just plain lucky.

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And ....ncaa investigstion....cheaters

[td577]

And ....ncaa investigstion....cheaters
I thought that was just a couple of guys from Montana.

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[Vet70]

Over/under on these until January 9th and a few days beyond if we win:

1. Why would anyone live in Fargo?
2. Of course you have a huge following, there is nothing else to do.
3. You people are fat.
4. At least we don't have to go back to North Dakota.
5. Butt auburn.
6. Butt #1 seed.
7. You betcha.
8. Southern speed.
9. Fbs transfers. (I don't even know if their program has any).
10. NDSU is just plain lucky.

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On the coaches show today it was mentioned that 3 of the starting 4 D line were former Alabama and Auburn players. I would not be surprised if they did not have more.

[td577]

On the coaches show today it was mentioned that 3of the starting 4 D line were former Alabama and Auburn players. I would not be surprised if they did not have more.
We are screwed.

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[tjbison]

I thought that was just a couple of guys from Montana.

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It is, but they are included

[td577]

It is, but they are included
I still don't know what that is all about.

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[tjbison]

I still don't know what that is all about.

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Egriz has a handful of posters who after we blew them out are thinking we are a dirty program and sanctions are inevitable, couple also claim steroid use by players

It's really something, but so are some of the bison fans still posting over there, they need to STFU also

[westnodak93bison]

Egriz has a handful of posters who after we blew them out are thinking we are a dirty program and sanctions are inevitable, couple also claim steroid use by players

It's really something
I heard that a UNI player was "out with an injury" for our play off game

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[Vet70]

We are screwed.

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They are #16 in rush defense and we are #7. It seems to me that in the past we have beaten whole teams of FBS players.

[Mr Meaty]

I cannot remember from previous years but how early before the game do they open the tailgating lots? Being a 11:00 game it will be early.

[bisonpride4ever]

They are #16 in rush defense and we are #7. It seems to me that in the past we have beaten whole teams of FBS players.

But it's not the same as almost beating Auburn.


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[td577]

Egriz has a handful of posters who after we blew them out are thinking we are a dirty program and sanctions are inevitable, couple also claim steroid use by players

It's really something, but so are some of the bison fans still posting over there, they need to STFU also
I remember something from well before that game from them about that stuff. If there was any truth, the NCAA wouldn't sit on it for this long.

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[tjbison]

I remember something from well before that game from them about that stuff. If there was any truth, the NCAA wouldn't sit on it for this long.

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It's BS, ncaa does random testing after games in the playoffs, can happen at any round anytime

If those morons think NDSU has played 19 games won 4 straight and not had testing they can't be helped

[HerdBoy]

On the coaches show today it was mentioned that 3 of the starting 4 D line were former Alabama and Auburn players. I would not be surprised if they did not have more.

I counted eleven.

[bri-dog]

I counted eleven.

I counted 13, and I believe that was confirmed in another thread (or earlier in this one, I can't remember where).

[HerdBoy]

I counted 13, and I believe that was confirmed in another thread (or earlier in this one, I can't remember where).

OK I must have miscounted. Their entire DL is FBS transfers.

[FFBison]

CAA crew will work the game

Let's hope for Stuart Mullins and his crew. We've had them before and they've called very good games in the past. They aren't overmatched at all.

[Green1]

I counted 13, and I believe that was confirmed in another thread (or earlier in this one, I can't remember where).


Can someone confirm the confirmation???

[FFBison]

I cannot remember from previous years but how early before the game do they open the tailgating lots? Being a 11:00 game it will be early.

Here's the fan event schedule, but no mention of tailgate lots opening. Let's just say 5.5 hours before kickoff!!

8:30 a.m. Visiting Team Arrival and Walk to Stadium (Lamar Hunt Way)
8:45 a.m. Home Team Arrival and Walk to Stadium (Lamar Hunt Way)
9 a.m. NCAA Tailgate Town Opens (Toyota Stadium North Plaza)
9:40 a.m. Visiting Team Pep Rally (Tailgate Town Stage)
10 a.m. Home Team Pep Rally (Tailgate Town Stage)
11 a.m. NCAA Division I Football Championship Game
After Halftime Tailgate Town Activities in North Plaza Close
After Game Awards Presentation (Toyota Stadium North Stage)

Seems like the team arrival's aren't that early. 2 hours by the time you get into the facility. Whoever is taping wrists and ankles better be fast!!

[BFKasper14]

I remember something from well before that game from them about that stuff. If there was any truth, the NCAA wouldn't sit on it for this long.

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They also talk about how Teammakers is corrupt and breaking the rules. That they are paying players to speak in front of crowds of people. Another one that was brought up was the petition thing saying that the judge was not hard enough on the players and all of them should have been kicked off the team. Then there was talk about Doug Bergum doing something. Can't remember who it was but he hired someone that was an ex bison player to a position that has influence when he had no experience with the job.

I have no dog in this fight but a lot of it seems VERY far fetched to me.


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[awBison]

Anyone have any stats on JSU line sizes/weights and how they match up to us? I think that was a big factor in the Richmond game.

[Kevin]

same here. Never knew there was such thing as pud Jacksonville Alabama.

I'm willing to admit that up until yesterday I thought they were from Florida.

[1998braves64]

I cannot remember from previous years but how early before the game do they open the tailgating lots? Being a 11:00 game it will be early.

I think people have gotten there prior to 6am they let them in at that point?? But one year we went it was a 12 pm start I think.

[bri-dog]

I think people have gotten there prior to 6am they let them in at that point?? But one year we went it was a 12 pm start I think.

Our group has been one of the top 5-10 rigs all 4 years -- I think you're about right in the timing. They supposedly weren't going to open until a little later but said screw it and opened early. I wouldn't be surprised if we are in line by 5 am or so.

[56BISON73]

Our group has been one of the top 5-10 rigs all 4 years -- I think you're about right in the timing. They supposedly weren't going to open until a little later but said screw it and opened early. I wouldn't be surprised if we are in line by 5 am or so.

One year they were letting cars in and it was still dark. Ive talked to the people who have run the parking for 4 years running. They dont want long lines so they will be letting people in early on sat. Plus if they do it like last year you should be able to park your rigs and trailers on Friday afternoon.

[Fast Eddie]

Should be a good game. If CJ and Champion can handle Barge and Gonzalez I say we win. I'm not too worried about CJ but
I think Champion might struggle a bit. Covering the long ball is going to be very important. It looks like Jacksonville's O line is
pretty weak so that should help us get pressure on Jenkins. Jenkins seems pretty fast and nimble though so even with pressure they
might be able to make plays. I don't see Jacksonville's D shutting down our run game like UNI did. We should be able to put
up points, control the clock, and keep Jacksonville's offense on the sidelines for a good part of the game. Should be a great game.

Looking forward to our first trip to Frisco, and could not ask for a better opponent than the Bison. It should be fun. Our trip to Auburn was great, even though we lost in OT.
I know NDSU has great fans that travel well, and are vocal. I am honestly excited to see how the Bison fans greet their opponent's followers. No smack talk here (yet).

[Fast Eddie]

Bison defense will keep Jacksonville score down just like Richmond.

Spoken like a true bovine. Gamecocks eat Spiders for breakfast, and Bison is much tastier.

[Green1]

Please, for the love of all that is good and right... please tell me they get more witty than this one.

[Fast Eddie]

Best scenario possible meeting JSU in the Chipper after a BIG win over SHSU. They will be "cocky"

Hope they don't get to bring their own refs like they did in 1989.

We will get no calls, so we will have to overcome that, which we will

go Bison!!!

"Cocky" is our mascot, so yeah, we're always cocky. Nice to see you mention your 1989 loss to Jacksonville State in the quarterfinal game that year.
I didn't attend that game, or the 1977 semifinal match-up when JSU branded the Bison 31-7.
See you in "fargo south". LOL

[Fast Eddie]

Jacksonville State so far against Sam Houston State (in 3 Qtrs) has recovered 3 fumbles and caught one interception. I don't know if JSU forced these, or were just opportunistic - either way, suggests something very positive about them. The score is 55-10 Jacksonville State's favor. Their QB is (I think) the 2015 2nd Team FCS All-American. They have a couple other All-Americans. They almost beat Auburn, some say they beat themselves in the last few minutes of play, otherwise they would have won.

I think JSU will be the toughest opponent the Bison face this year. UNI was very good and might be the 2nd or 3rd best team in FCS right now, despite their slow start to find themselves (a starting QB and their best RB) and get their defense going. If UNI and JSU played, it might be interesting.

NDSU is a GREAT football team right now. I suspect Jacksonville State is too and that the championship game will be a tough test for the Bison. They better be ready to bring it, or the Bison may have their head handed to them.

Yeah. A big Bison head on the wall of my den back here in Alabama would be sweet.

[Fast Eddie]

Hopefully they take a nice long Christmas Vacation like SHSU did in 2011... they worked hard, they deserve it! :)

Oh yeah. We just be drinkin' sweet tea and eatin' BBQ. Just sittin' on the front porch in the rockin' chairs. Just lazy Southerners. You don't need to worry 'bout us.

[CaBisonFan]

It's gonna be a long three weeks.

[Fast Eddie]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/20/49fe83dcc7fb112b9896f587ea9531b4.jpg

Yeah this team won't be ready for 4 full quarters. If we keep it close the 1st 2qtrs I think they will let us roll the 2nd half


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When you were doing that super-smart Bison analysis of scoring, by quarters, did you realize that JSU regularly clears the bench in the second half? (see: SHSU game)

[Fast Eddie]

Everything you wanted to know (and probably more) in terms of how these two teams stack up by 25 different statistical categories. The rank is the FCS national rank (out of 123 teams).



NDSU Rank JSU Rank
Points per game 34.8 16 41.0 6
Points allowed per game 15.7 6 18.7 12
Yards per game 426.2 26 529.2 2
Yards allowed per game 276.3 3 294.7 11
Rushing yards per game 240.6 12 311.7 3
Rushing yards allowed per game 101.4 7 116.6 16
Average per rush attempt 5.1 15 6.3 3
Passing yards per game 185.6 79 217.5 51
Passing yards allowed per game 174.9 14 178.1 17
Team passing efficieny 155.3 9 136.9 31
Team pass effeciency defense 103.6 12 103.3 11
Average time of possession 36:17 1 32:13 23
Turnover margin +4 T33 +8 T16
Penalty yards per game 48.3 27 62.6 86
3rd down conversion % 45.7% 13 45.4% 18
3rd down conversion defense 25.8% 2 28.7% 6
Kick return average 29.5 1 19.8 82
Kick return defense 19.2 37 22.8 94
Net punting 39.4 4 36.6 32
Punt return average 11.8 24 9.5 T44
Redzone offense scoring % 81.5% T42 84.7% 26
Redzone defense scoring % 85.2% T98 82.4% 76
Tackes for loss per game 5.1 95 9.3 4
Sacks per game 2.2 45 2.9 14
Sacks allowed per game 1.1 21 1.2 25


NDSU with the edge in 14 of 25 of these categories.

Looks pretty even to me, especially if you add 4th down conversion percentage, and the all important winning percentage!

[Fast Eddie]

How many FBS transfers does the JSU band have? No way can they be as good as advertised without a large number of SEC transfers.

That's really pretty funny! Nice job EC8CH.

[Fast Eddie]

Mostly in the brass section, or some woodwinds too?

The Marching Southerners have been accused of using steroids, especially the 20J's. Nothing has been proven....yet.

[Fast Eddie]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_ODcECzxGQ/T4sMKffGa8I/AAAAAAAAA88/LnQ8Dvynqbg/s1600/michael-scott-no.gif

Anyone remember the last time we had a CAA crew for a Bison playoff game?

HINT: Think tipped pass by the LB with 12' arms.


See above. You tell me. ;)

Nobody like a whiner. Geeez. You probably would like the NC game played in a f&#@ing dome, wouldn't you?

[Fast Eddie]

They are #16 in rush defense and we are #7. It seems to me that in the past we have beaten whole teams of FBS players.

Montana is #79 in rushing defense and S. Dakota is # 57, and how did those weak sisters beat the mighty Bison?

[ndsubison1]

Over/under on these until January 9th and a few days beyond if we win:

1. Why would anyone live in Fargo?
2. Of course you have a huge following, there is nothing else to do.
3. You people are fat.
4. At least we don't have to go back to North Dakota.
5. Butt auburn.
6. Butt #1 seed.
7. You betcha.
8. Southern speed.
9. Fbs transfers. (I don't even know if their program has any).
10. NDSU is just plain lucky.

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A few Montana fans saying: "but you guys didn't play Marshall in the playoffs!" lmao

[Fast Eddie]

I'm willing to admit that up until yesterday I thought they were from Florida.

For the record, Jacksonville, AL is a small, sleepy town on northeast Alabama. The town has about 13,000 residents and JSU has roughly 8,400 students. There is little of interest going on here and not much for entertainment except football. Those poor boys playing for Jax State have little to do except lift weights and run. There's really only one bar in town. No movie theatre, no bowling alley, nothing much at all. I'll bet they really enjoy getting to play another game. See you veterans in Frisco.

[GOBISON123]

Just finished seeing the replay of the Jacksonville game. They don't look special. They have few good receivers who can fight with the CB and come down with the ball. Their RB is very much like Shakir Bell very nimble. Their QB can run but not like Bailey. They kicked a lot of on side kicks which was interesting. Overall if we can handle their WRs and play an error free game, with good ball safety I like our chances. I know our D will shutdown that busy feet Pope.

Bearcat never looked like they wanted to play. This game was over by first 15 minutes.

I am predicting the Jacksonville will kick onside/pooch kicks similar to what they did with Bearcats.

Also there is something confusing how they forced so many fumbles and turnovers from the Bearcat QB.

[tjbison]

Just finished seeing the replay of the Jacksonville game. They don't look special. They have few good receivers who can fight with the CB and come down with the ball. Their RB is very much like Shakir Bell very nimble. Their QB can run but not like Bailey. They kicked a lot of on side kicks which was interesting. Overall if we can handle their WRs and play an error free game, with good ball safety I like our chances. I know our D will shutdown that busy feet Pope.

Bearcat never looked like they wanted to play. This game was over by first 15 minutes.

I am predicting the Jacksonville will kick onside/pooch kicks similar to what they did with Bearcats.

Also there is something confusing how they forced so many fumbles and turnovers from the Bearcat QB.

SHSU was not prepared plus..with that bracket lol.....some really mediocre teams

[MNLonghorn10]

For the record, Jacksonville, AL is a small, sleepy town on northeast Alabama. The town has about 13,000 residents and JSU has roughly 8,400 students. There is little of interest going on here and not much for entertainment except football. Those poor boys playing for Jax State have little to do except lift weights and run. There's really only one bar in town. No movie theatre, no bowling alley, nothing much at all. I'll bet they really enjoy getting to play another game. See you veterans in Frisco.
So your fans make fun of ND, or the city of Fargo because....?

[Professor Chaos]

Nobody like a whiner. Geeez. You probably would like the NC game played in a f&#@ing dome, wouldn't you?
You have no clue what you're talking about. The last game we experienced with CAA refs they took over the game with numerous questionable calls going both ways. They were a giant wart on what was otherwise a fantastic game. I'd hate to see that happen in the biggest game of the year in the FCS.

[Professor Chaos]

When you were doing that super-smart Bison analysis of scoring, by quarters, did you realize that JSU regularly clears the bench in the second half? (see: SHSU game)
How does that change the point he's making? If the starters are usually out by mid-3rd quarter how will they react if they have to play 60 minutes? In Chattanooga #2 they went 24 game minutes between the early 3rd and late 4th without scoring. In the Auburn game they pissed it right down their legs in the 4th and OT.

The "we play in the MVFC" argument is overplayed but one thing it does do is prepare teams for the grind it out type games that are bound to happen in a deep playoff run. NDSU knows how to close out close games late. JSU, to their credit, has done it twice against UTC but other than that they haven't had to worry about it. It'll be advantage Bison if this game is tight going down the stretch.

[THEsocalledfan]

The thing that cracks me up the most about our jack st. friends is like Georgia Southern in 2011, they are really, really proud of a loss. That's just not the way we roll in Fargo.

[td577]

SHSU was not prepared plus..with that bracket lol.....some really mediocre teams

Jax State blew their wad with just about every trick in their book to get to the championship game. I know our coaches will find something on those plays that tip them off. While it is possible the Bison can get burned on something tricky once, it won't happen twice or three times like against the made up animals. I do think Jax State will think the way to beat the Bison will be to take some tremendous chances but it will come down to who is playing sound football in the end.

[tjbison]

So your fans make fun of ND, or the city of Fargo because....?
Insecure about their own place

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[Bison 4 Life]

How does that change the point he's making? If the starters are usually out by mid-3rd quarter how will they react if they have to play 60 minutes? In Chattanooga #2 they went 24 game minutes between the early 3rd and late 4th without scoring. In the Auburn game they pissed it right down their legs in the 4th and OT.

The "we play in the MVFC" argument is overplayed but one thing it does do is prepare teams for the grind it out type games that are bound to happen in a deep playoff run. NDSU knows how to close out close games late. JSU, to their credit, has done it twice against UTC but other than that they haven't had to worry about it. It'll be advantage Bison if this game is tight going down the stretch.

The average Sagarin rating of JSU's opponents is 151.

That's only because of Auburn and Chatty dragging it up. Kansas is 151 in Sagarin. The average opponent for JSU was only as good as Kansas!

[ZHerd]

I've already lost interest in this game and all the lame fan smack...AGS is unbearable to read with all the chest thumping Bison fans and Alabama village fans. Is it wrong of me to already be looking ahead to playing the Hawkeyes or is it ok since I'm just a homer-rube fan? I will check back in Jan 10 or whenever this game is played

[aces1180]

New championship opponent, same lame-ass smack talk...Boring.

[Bisonator98]

The only decent FCS team they have faced, Chattanooga, they barely won those 2 games. IMO Chattanooga is similar to NDSU only NDSU is better. I like our chances.

[THEsocalledfan]

The only decent FCS team they have faced, Chattanooga, they barely won those 2 games. IMO Chattanooga is similar to NDSU only NDSU is better. I like our chances.

But, but Auburn!!!!!

[ZHerd]

Truth is if JSU had beaten Auburn that win would have eclipsed every Bison FBS win but K-State. Even taking them to OT is a more impressive accomplishment than many of our FBS wins. At least though, the Bison find a way to win.

[Bison 4 Life]

Truth is if JSU had beaten Auburn that win would have eclipsed every Bison FBS win but K-State. Even taking them to OT is a more impressive accomplishment than many of our FBS wins. At least though, the Bison find a way to win.

Put it with Georgia Southern's win against Florida. Sometimes you just catch a team on a down year. This will likely be a forgotten year for Auburn.

In fact, it's a lot like the K State game. The prior year they were in the NC conversation then just had a down year. Scraped to enough wins to get a bowl, same as Auburn.

[td577]

Truth is if JSU had beaten Auburn that win would have eclipsed every Bison FBS win but K-State. Even taking them to OT is a more impressive accomplishment than many of our FBS wins. At least though, the Bison find a way to win.

But they didn't win.

[Bisonator98]

Truth is if JSU had beaten Auburn that win would have eclipsed every Bison FBS win but K-State. Even taking them to OT is a more impressive accomplishment than many of our FBS wins. At least though, the Bison find a way to win.

Not going to disagree but people put the SEC on too much of a pedestal. It's a top heavy conference just like the rest. In fact it's been trending down the past 2 seasons. Auburn was not that good this season.

[westnodak93bison]

Not going to disagree but people put the SEC on too much of a pedestal. It's a top heavy conference just like the rest. In fact it's been trending down the past 2 seasons. Auburn was not that good this season.
If we played today, Auburn would be favored by 3 on a neutral field.

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[tjbison]

Truth is if JSU had beaten Auburn that win would have eclipsed every Bison FBS win but K-State. Even taking them to OT is a more impressive accomplishment than many of our FBS wins. At least though, the Bison find a way to win.

They were 6-6.....look at their wins

If they beat them different story, but now it's OK to lose to a team close?

[Bisonator98]

They were 6-6.....look at their wins

If they beat them different story, but now it's OK to lose to a team close?

Auburn beat:
7-5 Louisville
5-7 San Jose St.
5-7 Kentucky
8-4 Texas A&M
4-8 Idaho

2 teams with winning records. No doubt the TAM win was a good one but seriously a real murderers row...

[THEsocalledfan]

If we played today, Auburn would be favored by 3 on a neutral field.

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Exactly. People get fixated by SEC and they did not win. If they won, I would actually be much more worried.

[westnodak93bison]

I watched the SHSU game and part of the Chatty playoff game. Doesn't JSU look susceptible to the inside run? Do they rotate D lineman?

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[MNLonghorn10]

A&M sucks. Don't put much stock into that one

[bi'S'on]

Not going to disagree but people put the SEC on too much of a pedestal. It's a top heavy conference just like the rest. In fact it's been trending down the past 2 seasons. Auburn was not that good this season.

Correct on the facts that Auburn is not very good and that the SEC is top heavy. However, the pedestal seems appropriate with 7 out of last 10 NCs.

[Bisonator98]

A&M sucks. Don't put much stock into that one

So does Texas. :)

[Saxy Southerner]

Hello Bisonville,
Let me start by saying what an privilege it will be to take on the team that will go into the books as having the most dominant dynasty in FCS history and what a treat it will be to end the streak. ;) I look forward to experiencing the Bison GameDay I hear so much about and wish everyone safe travels to Frisco and back.

I did have a question pop-up I wanted to ask though. As I read through the thread I noticed many people point toward our weak schedule (no arguments on that, MVSU and Peay aren't exactly the cream of the FCS crop) and some fans have started to point to a weakness JSU has late in the game and that they can't go for four full quarters of football. I'm curious where this notion is coming from? Looking at the games against strong opponents (Chattanooga, CSU, Auburn, and SHSU) JSU has statistically played some of their best ball in the fourth quarter or later, save for OT at Auburn, obviously. For reference here are our scoring averages by quarter against the above mentioned opponents:
1st- 6
2nd- 13
3rd- 9
4th or later- 13

Even without the Sammy blowout the numbers are 3/10/8/14 respectively.

On defense the story isn't too much different. Our scoring defense against mentioned opponents is 5-5-5-10 whereas the Bison 5/3/4/6. We can say both teams are weakest on defense late and that the Bison are more consistent but our considering our last score is inflated by a 21 point 4th quarter shootout with Chuck South I think it's safe to say our defense isn't one that will shrivel up and die late in the game. Nor is our offense. We can look at stats all day long and we will always come to two conclusions, JSU has an unreal offense and a pretty good defense and the Bison have an unreal defense and a pretty good offense. No matter how many things we discuss homerism will always play its part. I for one think JSU's offense won't be slowed enough for a Bison win and I'm sure Bison fans think otherwise. However, let's try not to let our homerisms overshadow what both teams have accomplished this season. The Bison are coming into their fifth straight title game after God knows how many MVFC titles and Jacksonville State is coming into their first I school history after going 16-0 to be back to back OVC champs and running the 2015 FCS table. Both teams deserve respect for what they have accomplished so far. We will see who is really the best in three weeks.

Merry Christmas, Bisonville.

[cbline]

To the Jacksonville sports writer: Proverbs 11 says "When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom." I will take the humility of Coach K and the Bison.

[Bisonator98]

Hello Bisonville,
Let me start by saying what an privilege it will be to take on the team that will go into the books as having the most dominant dynasty in FCS history and what a treat it will be to end the streak. ;) I look forward to experiencing the Bison GameDay I hear so much about and wish everyone safe travels to Frisco and back.

I did have a question pop-up I wanted to ask though. As I read through the thread I noticed many people point toward our weak schedule (no arguments on that, MVSU and Peay aren't exactly the cream of the FCS crop) and some fans have started to point to a weakness JSU has late in the game and that they can't go for four full quarters of football. I'm curious where this notion is coming from? Looking at the games against strong opponents (Chattanooga, CSU, Auburn, and SHSU) JSU has statistically played some of their best ball in the fourth quarter or later, save for OT at Auburn, obviously. For reference here are our scoring averages by quarter against the above mentioned opponents:
1st- 6
2nd- 13
3rd- 9
4th or later- 13

Even without the Sammy blowout the numbers are 3/10/8/14 respectively.

On defense the story isn't too much different. Our scoring defense against mentioned opponents is 5-5-5-10 whereas the Bison 5/3/4/6. We can say both teams are weakest on defense late and that the Bison are more consistent but our considering our last score is inflated by a 21 point 4th quarter shootout with Chuck South I think it's safe to say our defense isn't one that will shrivel up and die late in the game. Nor is our offense. We can look at stats all day long and we will always come to two conclusions, JSU has an unreal offense and a pretty good defense and the Bison have an unreal defense and a pretty good offense. No matter how many things we discuss homerism will always play its part. I for one think JSU's offense won't be slowed enough for a Bison win and I'm sure Bison fans think otherwise. However, let's try not to let our homerisms overshadow what both teams have accomplished this season. The Bison are coming into their fifth straight title game after God knows how many MVFC titles and Jacksonville State is coming into their first I school history after going 16-0 to be back to back OVC champs and running the 2015 FCS table. Both teams deserve respect for what they have accomplished so far. We will see who is really the best in three weeks.

Merry Christmas, Bisonville.

2 things really. JSU hasn't been tested for 4 quarters very often but when they have been it's been close wins or a loss. JSU hasn't played a team like NDSU that leans on people physically for 4 quarters consistently. We are going to find out if JSU is up to the task on the 9th!

[tjbison]

Hello Bisonville,
Let me start by saying what an privilege it will be to take on the team that will go into the books as having the most dominant dynasty in FCS history and what a treat it will be to end the streak. ;) I look forward to experiencing the Bison GameDay I hear so much about and wish everyone safe travels to Frisco and back.

I did have a question pop-up I wanted to ask though. As I read through the thread I noticed many people point toward our weak schedule (no arguments on that, MVSU and Peay aren't exactly the cream of the FCS crop) and some fans have started to point to a weakness JSU has late in the game and that they can't go for four full quarters of football. I'm curious where this notion is coming from? Looking at the games against strong opponents (Chattanooga, CSU, Auburn, and SHSU) JSU has statistically played some of their best ball in the fourth quarter or later, save for OT at Auburn, obviously. For reference here are our scoring averages by quarter against the above mentioned opponents:
1st- 6
2nd- 13
3rd- 9
4th or later- 13

Even without the Sammy blowout the numbers are 3/10/8/14 respectively.

On defense the story isn't too much different. Our scoring defense against mentioned opponents is 5-5-5-10 whereas the Bison 5/3/4/6. We can say both teams are weakest on defense late and that the Bison are more consistent but our considering our last score is inflated by a 21 point 4th quarter shootout with Chuck South I think it's safe to say our defense isn't one that will shrivel up and die late in the game. Nor is our offense. We can look at stats all day long and we will always come to two conclusions, JSU has an unreal offense and a pretty good defense and the Bison have an unreal defense and a pretty good offense. No matter how many things we discuss homerism will always play its part. I for one think JSU's offense won't be slowed enough for a Bison win and I'm sure Bison fans think otherwise. However, let's try not to let our homerisms overshadow what both teams have accomplished this season. The Bison are coming into their fifth straight title game after God knows how many MVFC titles and Jacksonville State is coming into their first I school history after going 16-0 to be back to back OVC champs and running the 2015 FCS table. Both teams deserve respect for what they have accomplished so far. We will see who is really the best in three weeks.

Merry Christmas, Bisonville.

This game will come down to preparation, something NDSU and the staff know how to do for the long layoff and multiple distractions. The absolute Cockiness that seems to be flowing from AL points me to believe they won't prepare correctly.

No the OVC is not strong but obviously JSU played good to get to the Semis and win, please compare schedule for schedule ours and yours and you will see. Good luck to you guys and have a good holiday

[Saxy Southerner]

2 things really. JSU hasn't been tested for 4 quarters very often but when they have been it's been close wins or a loss. JSU hasn't played a team like NDSU that leans on people physically for 4 quarters consistently. We are going to find out if JSU is up to the task on the 9th!

Same could be said for the Bison as they blew two leads and won two games with less than :40 on the clock. Two of the four games being to sub-par teams compared to the Bison. Though the Bison have definitely improved a lot. It's going to be a long wait until Frisco to find out just how much. It's gonna be a good one.

[Bisonator98]

Same could be said for the Bison as they blew two leads and won two games with less than :40 on the clock. Two of the four games being to sub-par teams compared to the Bison. Though the Bison have definitely improved a lot. It's going to be a long wait until Frisco to find out just how much.

NDSU has been battle tested all season. JSU not so much. The OVC is beyond pathetic. Not your fault just the way it is. JSU brought back nearly their entire team from a year ago. Tons of talent from FBS transfers. Congrats on getting to the title game!

NDSU had to reload with a bunch of young inexperienced players. They learned on the fly and have improved tremendously over the course of the season. They are playing extremely well right now. It should be a great game.

[Saxy Southerner]

NDSU has been battle tested all season. JSU not so much. The OVC is beyond pathetic. Not your fault just the way it is. JSU brought back nearly their entire team from a year ago. Tons of talent from FBS transfers. Congrats on getting to the title game!

NDSU had to reload with a bunch of young inexperienced players. They learned on the fly and have improved tremendously over the course of the season. They are playing extremely well right now. It should be a great game.

UTC (twice), Auburn, Chuck South, and Sammy weren't battle tests? I can understand Sammy, but that means we would be sitting at 3 of 4 or .750. The only real challenges the Bison had was Montana the first time, UNI twice, USD, and Youngstown. The others were blowouts and didn't really push the Bison to their limit IMO. If we take those "battle-test games" the Bison sit at 3 of 5, or .600 while under pressure. Just my personal opinion though. I agree the OVC is garbage but if we were only as good as our schedule we would have got stomped in the second round and UTC would be the ones on their way to Frisco.

[Bison 4 Life]

UTC (twice), Auburn, Chuck South, and Sammy weren't battle tests? I can understand Sammy, but that means we would be sitting at 3 of 4 or .750. The only real challenges the Bison had was Montana the first time, UNI twice, USD, and Youngstown. The others were blowouts and didn't really push the Bison to their limit IMO. If we take those "battle-test games" the Bison sit at 3 of 5, or .600 while under pressure. Just my personal opinion though. I agree the OVC is garbage but if we were only as good as our schedule we would have got stomped in the second round and UTC would be the ones on heir way to Frisco.

short answer? no. not really.

[Saxy Southerner]

short answer? no. not really.

And your reasoning would be?

[ZHerd]

Yes I agree with everyone that the SEC is down right now and the power shifted to the B10 last year (actually I think the Pac12 is pretty tough right now even though they don't have a super dominant team) but 6-6 Auburn is still better than most of the FBS teams we beat. I just think it sounds silly trying to discredit their performance there via discrediting 2015 Auburn. However I do think that current NDSU team beats current Auburn and current JSU loses again

[Bison 4 Life]

Let's put it this way. If JSU and NDSU swapped positions and nothing else, NDSU would be playing UNI in the final.

[IBleedYellow]

Let's put it this way. If JSU and NDSU swapped positions and nothing else, NDSU would be playing UNI in the final.

Bingo. There is no doubt in my mind.

[ZHerd]

I also think Chatty is solid and those were good wins for JSU...obviously not flukish since they did it twice. I also still stand by my opinion that UNI was the best team in these playoffs not named NDSU

[tjbison]

UTC (twice), Auburn, Chuck South, and Sammy weren't battle tests? I can understand Sammy, but that means we would be sitting at 3 of 4 or .750. The only real challenges the Bison had was Montana the first time, UNI twice, USD, and Youngstown. The others were blowouts and didn't really push the Bison to their limit IMO. If we take those "battle-test games" the Bison sit at 3 of 5, or .600 while under pressure. Just my personal opinion though. I agree the OVC is garbage but if we were only as good as our schedule we would have got stomped in the second round and UTC would be the ones on their way to Frisco.

Lol.....we played 8 top 25 teams....6 in our conference alone

[THEsocalledfan]

could not help but go read a bit of their message board. Great bison fan providing some very balanced info for them, and they are ripping on him. I got quite a quick out of it. They really don't understand just how bad Ohio Valley is as far as a conference. They were pulling out horrible metrics rather than sagarin or Massey which are the best objective guides to that discussion. I don't they even know how much higher NDSU is ranked.

After reading and digesting everything, they way they will beat us is if the pass the ball really well and they are very capable. With that said, I really think however wins, wins by 14 at least, and the game is in hand in the 4th quarter. Only possible way that does not hold is if NDSU gets down, and number 11 is in the game. Then, it could be a 4 quarter game.

[Bisonator98]

UTC (twice), Auburn, Chuck South, and Sammy weren't battle tests? I can understand Sammy, but that means we would be sitting at 3 of 4 or .750. The only real challenges the Bison had was Montana the first time, UNI twice, USD, and Youngstown. The others were blowouts and didn't really push the Bison to their limit IMO. If we take those "battle-test games" the Bison sit at 3 of 5, or .600 while under pressure. Just my personal opinion though. I agree the OVC is garbage but if we were only as good as our schedule we would have got stomped in the second round and UTC would be the ones on their way to Frisco.

I'm saying week in and week out NDSU played better competition. That helps when you get to the PO's. I also think JSU's side of the bracket was really weak. UTC was your toughest opponent and you played them right after a bye. CS and Sammy were chumps.