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larson311

11-03-2015, 03:07 PM

I can count 5 tossups in there. I think if NDSU pulls the redshirts on Fogarty and Nielson they could flip the score. Should be a good dual.

125 - Rodriguez DEC Herrmann 3-0 NDSU
133 - DiCamillo MD ???? 4-3 Virginia
141 - Friedman DEC Krivus (tossup) 6-4 NDSU
149 - Ream DEC Miller (tossup) 9-4 NDSU (Ream pinned him early last year)
157 - Harrell DEC ???? (tossup) 9-7 NDSU (Fogarty could win here if he doesn't RS)
165 - Peppelman DEC McNutt (tossup) 10-9 Virginia
174 - Virginia DEC NDSU (tossup) 13-9 Virginia (Nielson could win here if he doesn't RS, Virginia has a good RS here as well Fox Baldwin)
184 - Zillmer TF ???? 14-13 NDSU
197 - Nye MD Paxton 17-14 Virginia
285 - Gillen DEC Tyanan 21-14 Vriginia

Gladiator Dad

11-03-2015, 04:18 PM

Abe1727

11-03-2015, 07:40 PM

Thanks again for the detailed info. Thankfully, I'll be at the Bison open. Go Bison!

larson311

11-03-2015, 08:49 PM

I could see both Ream & Bengsten weighing in at 149 with one of them moving up to wrestle 157. I think it's too early in the year to make the decision to pull a Redshirt.

I'm not a fan of pulling redshirts either, I hope that's what they do.

It would sure be nice if they had a coach's podcast or something so the fans had an idea what's going on....

Abe1727

11-04-2015, 12:29 AM

The Virginia Coach does a weekly podcast. It's pretty informational. I wonder if anyone else does? Go Bison.

larson311

11-04-2015, 01:52 PM

Gophers Assistant Eggum did one last year each week, I assume he will be doing the same, just maybe haven't started yet, we will see.

SDSU has Jacked up monday with an assistant coach as well.
https://theguillotine.com/2015/11/jacked-up-monday-november-2-2015/

Big Bird

11-04-2015, 03:20 PM

Coach Bono typically releases a "Jacked Up" Podcast and multiple video updates a week and is very active on social media. That is the one area that frustrates me about NDSU and is an area where SDSU is excelling.

RadioBison

11-04-2015, 11:17 PM

[QUOTE=larson311;1058247]Gophers Assistant Eggum did one last year each week, I assume he will be doing the same, just maybe haven't started yet, we will see.

One just came through today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQG6anUWCgA&feature=youtu.be

Gladiator Dad

11-05-2015, 02:11 PM

I would love to see NDSU do a podcast or weekly video segment. I think things like this that can be posted to a social media board helps promote the sport. I firmly believe that the wrestling community in general, although getting better at it over the last few years, has done a poor job in the promotion of the sport to the mainstream sports fan. If we expect to maintain and grow the sport we have to become more active in the social media promotion of the sport itself. I applaud Bono in his social media efforts to promote SDSU wrestling. The more positive stories that we can put out there to the mainstream sports fan the more chances we have to draw them into the wrestling cult that we all love.

larson311

11-05-2015, 02:35 PM

I mentioned how SDSU and Gophers do a weekly podcasts to the NDSU wrestling twitter account. Hopefully it doesn't fall on deaf ears.

tblaney

11-05-2015, 03:17 PM

UW - Barry does an article every Tuesday. http://www.wiwrestling.com/tuesdays-with-barry-110315/

THEsocalledfan

11-05-2015, 08:10 PM

Okay, folks you have to admit, how cool is it that Virginia is coming to Fargo for any sport? And how cool is it seeing the B12 logo on wrestling stuff?

Abe1727

11-05-2015, 08:21 PM

Incredibly cool on both points. Go Bison.

Big Bird

11-06-2015, 02:43 AM

I'm pretty excited for tomorrow. A lot of new faces in the starting lineup and a good chance to beat a quality opponent. Virginia should be favored to win the dual, but I have hope still. Hard to tell what the matchups are going to be this early in the year, but I think the likeliest path to victory is with wins at 125, 141, 149, 157, 184, and then an upset at either 165 or HWT. I expect UVA bonus at 133 and 174 and possibly at 197 and 165. I expect bonus from NDSU at 184 and possibly at 149/157 if Ream can do damage on top.

larson311

11-06-2015, 03:34 PM

Here's what I'm going with based on projected lineups. Hoping for some upsets or bonus points! If we can manage winning both 149 and 157 somehow it could be 18-17 Virginia and a bonus point or two in there would win it for us.

125 - Rodriguez DEC Herrmann 3-0 NDSU
133 - DiCamillo MD O'Brien 4-3 Virginia
141 - Friedman DEC Watson (tossup) 6-4 NDSU
149 - Ream DEC Miller (tossup) 9-4 NDSU (Ream pinned him early last year)
157 - Atkinson DEC Bengston 9-7 NDSU (I won't count out Bengston here, we may see Nehring too I'm not sure? Could see Ream and Bengston flip flop here too...)
165 - Peppelman DEC McNutt (tossup) 10-9 Virginia
174 - Askey DEC Blake Thompson (tossup) 13-9 Virginia (Virginia has a good RS here as well Fox Baldwin, not sure what their plan with him is)
184 - Zillmer TF Schany 14-13 NDSU
197 - Nye MD Paxton 17-14 Virginia
285 - Gillen DEC Tyanan 21-14 Vriginia

Gladiator Dad

11-06-2015, 03:40 PM

Article from UVA's website.

http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-wrestl/spec-rel/110515aaa.html

125 - Rodriguez DEC Herrmann 3-0 NDSU
133 - DiCamillo MD O'Brien 4-3 Virginia
141 - Friedman DEC Watson (tossup) 6-4 NDSU
149 - Ream/Bengsten DEC Miller (tossup) 7-6 NDSU ( If it's Ream I think we could pick up bonus points here)
157 - Ream/Bengsten DEC Atkinson 10-6 NDSU(I agree it may see Nehring as well)
165 - Peppelman DEC McNutt (tossup) 10-9 NDSU ( I would not be surprised to see McNutt win here, I think he will surprise a lot of people especially early in the season)
174 - Askey DEC Blake Thompson (tossup) 13-10 Virginia (Virginia has a good RS here as well Fox Baldwin, not sure what their plan with him is)
184 - Zillmer TF Schany 14-10 NDSU
197 - Nye MD Paxton 14-14 Virginia/NDSU
285 - Gillen DEC Tyanan 17-14 Vriginia

If we win either HWT or 165 I think we can pull the upset over VA. Bonus points will be the other key.

Big Bird

11-06-2015, 04:11 PM

I know its not in NDSUs best interest for winning today, but I hope UVA doesn't redshirt Fox Baldwin and has him in there today. Dude won nearly 400 matches, had over 300 falls, and 5 state titles in high school. He was also #8 in the HS pound for pound rankings at the end of last year by Flo.

Peppleman was a big time recruit, but his results were pretty good, but not great last year. McNutt could definitely win that one but he'll have to perform really well.

CP over at Flo is pretty big on Watson at 141, so I'm hoping Friedman can get the W, but I'm starting to think that is a tossup at best.

larson311

11-06-2015, 05:35 PM

I really hope McNutt makes the jump this year like Ream did last year, that will help a ton, especially in today's dual like you said.

Big Bird

11-06-2015, 07:07 PM

Fox Baldwin was the only starter announced for UVA at 174

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:09 PM

I'm not seeing anything on the gobison.com feed, has it started yet?

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:14 PM

I'm in, changed from Firefox to Chrome.

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:26 PM

No good, needed a Tech or pin out of Zillmer. Thought Paxton was going to hold a decision, but it got ugly mid-way through the 2nd.

Big Bird

11-06-2015, 07:35 PM

GREAT comeback ot win for Ben tynan

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:39 PM

GREAT comeback ot win for Ben tynan

That was huge, we are in this!

MAKBison

11-06-2015, 07:42 PM

whats the score?

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:43 PM

7-4 Bison, No Herrmann for Virginia at 125, but Martinez is no slouch.

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:44 PM

NDSU vs. Virginia

184 - #5 Zillmer MD Schany 4-0 NDSU
197 - #10 Nye MD Paxton 4-4
285 - Tyanan DEC Gillen 7-4 NDSU
125 - #16 Rodriguez vs Martinez on the mat Rodriguez up 3-0 after 2

MAKBison

11-06-2015, 07:45 PM

Thanks can someone keep updating I cant do all access and of course no radio has it

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:49 PM

125 - Rodriguez MD Martinez 10-4 NDSU

Now up at 133 - Obrien vs DiCamillo

DiCamillo up 6-2 after 1

MAKBison

11-06-2015, 07:52 PM

NDSU vs. Virginia

184 - #5 Zillmer MD Schany 4-0 NDSU
197 - #10 Bye MD Paxton 4-4
285 - Tyanan DEC Gillen 7-4 NDSU
125 - #16 Rodriguez vs Martinez on the mat Rodriguez up 3-0 after 2

is someone hurt at 197?

bri-dog

11-06-2015, 07:53 PM

is someone hurt at 197?

I think it should say "Nye"...

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:57 PM

is someone hurt at 197?

No Paxton is our Starter, who were you thinking of?

larson311

11-06-2015, 07:58 PM

I think it should say "Nye"...

haha woops you are correct.

larson311

11-06-2015, 08:01 PM

184 - #5 Zillmer MD Schany 4-0 NDSU
197 - #10 Nye MD Paxton 4-4
285 - Tyanan DEC Gillen 7-4 NDSU
125 - #16 Rodriguez MD Martinez 11-4 NDSU
133 - DiCamillo MD O'Brien 11-8 NDSU
141 - Watson DEC Friedman 11-11
149 - Bengston DEC Miller in OT 14-11 NDSU
157 - Atkinson MD Ream 15-14 Virginia (That backfired)
165 - Peppelman Tech McNutt 20-14 Virginia
174 - Fox Baldwin Tech Blake Thompson 25-14 Virginia

Bisonwinagn

11-06-2015, 08:32 PM

Looks like a pretty shitty effort overall. Could be a long year for team results. They didn't seem to have any energy but maybe its because of all the matches last week and a noon start.

larson311

11-06-2015, 08:33 PM

Looks like a pretty shitty effort overall. Could be a long year for team results. They didn't seem to have any energy but maybe its because of all the matches last week and a noon start.

I'm mainly dissapointed with Ream and McNutt, the rest of the guys looked good or performed about as expected.

Gladiator Dad

11-06-2015, 08:49 PM

I'm mainly dissapointed with Ream and McNutt, the rest of the guys looked good or performed about as expected.

Ah, don't give up the ship yet, they will bounce back and be fine

Big Bird

11-06-2015, 09:31 PM

That was a rough one today, but Virginia is a pretty solid team.

125- Rodriguez did enough to get bonus points, but the concerning thing for me was his performance on bottom. That has been a trouble spot for him and he got rode pretty well again. I hope Kish puts him down when its his choice in every open tournament and early season dual. He looked ok on his feet and was very good on top.
133- O'Brien did some things well, he just went up against a superior wrestler. The effort was encouraging, and I'm hopeful he'll be alright this year.
141- Friedman did a lot of little things wrong and they added up. There are some things to build on, but at this level, if you don't execute the little things, you're not going to be successful. This was a match he could have won, but instead it got kind of ugly.
149- Bengston got a win over a quality opponent. His stamina also looked much improved up a weight. On the down side, the match shouldn't have gone to OT and the offense was missing for most of the match. There is no excuse for both not getting that takedown when he was behind miller on their feet to put the match away and for giving a takedown up out of that same scenario. The aggression out of the front head was missing too, which has been his bread and butter. Despite all of that, he found a way to win against a quality opponent.
157- Ream didn't look like himself. I still have faith he'll be in the mix to AA at 149 by the end of the year. Also, this is a great example of why you don't see guys bumping up weights in duals. Atkinson isn't a big 157, but he got to weigh in there and Clay weighed in at 149. I'd still like to see Bengston at 141, Ream at 149, and Nehring at 157.
165- This was very ugly. Peppleman was able to do whatever he wanted.
174- This was very ugly too.
184- Zillmer looked solid. Would've liked to see some a little more aggressiveness early, but that's just splitting hairs. The stall call against Zillmer was just awful and made NO sense
197- The effort was there, but Nye was just the far superior wrestler. My only real complaint is that if you're going to try a headlock, don't half ass it, commit to it. This was my first time seeing Paxton wrestle, and I'm hoping to see some offense out of him at the Bison Open.
HWT- Highlight of the dual from the NDSU side. Tynan moved well, took some good shots (and some bad ones), and battled back from a 3rd period deficit to win in OT. He's not the biggest or strongest guy, so he'll have to be careful about when he shoots and goes underneath some bigger HWTs. Gas tank, effort, and quickness weren't issues for him.

Overall, a very disappointing end to the dual after a pretty good start. UVA hit some tilts for 4 that completely changed some matches. Biggest area where I think NDSU needs work is on the bottom. Could throw better movement on their feet to get some better shot angles, but that wasn't too bad.

Big Bird

11-08-2015, 01:31 AM

I know it isn't relating to this dual, but a bunch of guys went to the Grand View Open, and some did very well. Most notably, Fogarty won the tile at 157. Harrington took 2nd at 174, falling to a very good Jake Residori (#24 at 174 according to wrestlestats) of SIUE. Nielson took 3rd at 174, and lost to that same Residori, giving him his only close match on the day, falling 4-2. No idea if one of them will grow into a 184 next year, but if the staff doesn't think one of them will, they might as well pull one of their redshirts.

Grand View Open Results for North Dakota State
Open 125 - Arthur Payne's place is 4th and has scored 13.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Arthur Payne (North Dakota State) won by decision over Ignace Hakizimana (Concordia) (Dec 4-1)
Quarterfinal - Da`Wayne Robertson (Grand View ) won by tech fall over Arthur Payne (North Dakota State) (TF 17-2)
Cons. Round 2 - Arthur Payne (North Dakota State) won by injury default over Johnny Nguyen (Grand View ) (Inj. 0:00)
Cons. Round 3 - Arthur Payne (North Dakota State) won by decision over Drake Swarm (Iowa State University) (Dec 5-2)
Cons. Semi - Arthur Payne (North Dakota State) won by decision over Tristan Bundy (Grand View ) (Dec 4-3)
3rd Place Match - Alex DelaCruz (Iowa Central CC) won by decision over Arthur Payne (North Dakota State) (Dec 8-3)

Open 133 - David Flynn's place is 5th and has scored 13.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - David Flynn (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Champ. Round 2 - Jacob Colon (Grand View ) won by fall over David Flynn (North Dakota State) (Fall 5:40)
Cons. Round 2 - David Flynn (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Cons. Round 3 - David Flynn (North Dakota State) won by injury default over Andrew Gorman (William Penn ) (Inj. 0:00)
Cons. Round 4 - David Flynn (North Dakota State) won by forfeit over Trevor Feagans (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) (FF)
Cons. Round 5 - David Flynn (North Dakota State) won by decision over Jacob Grant (Grand View ) (Dec 5-2)
Cons. Semi - Godwin Cutler (Grand View ) won by major decision over David Flynn (North Dakota State) (Maj 20-6)
5th Place Match - David Flynn (North Dakota State) won by decision over Austin Anderson (Iowa State University) (Dec 8-2)

Open 141 - Wyatt Becker's place is unknown and has scored 0.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Wyatt Becker (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Champ. Round 2 - Tyler Hinton (Ottawa University) won by fall over Wyatt Becker (North Dakota State) (Fall 5:41)
Cons. Round 2 - Wyatt Becker (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Cons. Round 3 - Brandon Brindley (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) won by major decision over Wyatt Becker (North Dakota State) (Maj 11-3)

Open 141 - Samuel Gilseth's place is unknown and has scored 0.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Topher Carton (University of Iowa) won by fall over Samuel Gilseth (North Dakota State) (Fall 2:37)
Cons. Round 1 - Samuel Gilseth (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Cons. Round 2 - Cameron Kelly (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) won by fall over Samuel Gilseth (North Dakota State) (Fall 4:11)

Open 149 - Nathaniel Rykerd's place is unknown and has scored 4.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Nathaniel Rykerd (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Champ. Round 2 - Elijah Sullivan (Grand View ) won by fall over Nathaniel Rykerd (North Dakota State) (Fall 2:37)
Cons. Round 2 - Nathaniel Rykerd (North Dakota State) won in overtime over John Pacha (Ottawa University) (OT 8-6)
Cons. Round 3 - Nathaniel Rykerd (North Dakota State) won by fall over Ruben Burrows (MWC) (Fall 7:36)
Cons. Round 4 - Mason Miller (Grand View ) won by fall over Nathaniel Rykerd (North Dakota State) (Fall 1:42)

Open 157 - Matt Njos's place is unknown and has scored 6.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Logan Thomsen (University of Iowa) won by fall over Matt Njos (North Dakota State) (Fall 4:38)
Cons. Round 1 - Matt Njos (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Cons. Round 2 - Matt Njos (North Dakota State) won by fall over Logan Loftus (William Penn ) (Fall 1:13)
Cons. Round 3 - Jr Lule (Concordia) won by major decision over Matt Njos (North Dakota State) (Maj 12-3)

Open 157 - Andrew Fogarty's place is 1st and has scored 26.50 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Andrew Fogarty (North Dakota State) won by decision over Chase Straw (Iowa State University - Unattached) (Dec 8-4)
Champ. Round 2 - Andrew Fogarty (North Dakota State) won by tech fall over Logan Loftus (William Penn ) (TF 16-0)
Quarterfinal - Andrew Fogarty (North Dakota State) won by decision over Renaldo Rodriguez-Spencer (Iowa State University) (Dec 5-3)
Semifinal - Andrew Fogarty (North Dakota State) won by major decision over Nate Higgins (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) (Maj 11-1)
1st Place Match - Andrew Fogarty (North Dakota State) won by decision over Grant Henderson (Grand View ) (Dec 2-0)

Open 157 - Nick Mergen's place is unknown and has scored 4.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Nick Mergen (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Champ. Round 2 - Grant Henderson (Grand View ) won by major decision over Nick Mergen (North Dakota State) (Maj 8-0)
Cons. Round 2 - Nick Mergen (North Dakota State) won by decision over Dustin Harberts (Grand View ) (Dec 15-13)
Cons. Round 3 - Nick Mergen (North Dakota State) won by fall over Tyler Willis (Midland University) (Fall 4:04)
Cons. Round 4 - Tanner Werner (Grand View ) won by fall over Nick Mergen (North Dakota State) (Fall 0:58)

Open 174 - Tyler Harrington's place is 2nd and has scored 22.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Tyler Harrington (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Quarterfinal - Tyler Harrington (North Dakota State) won by decision over Dylan Blackford (Grand View ) (Dec 5-1)
Semifinal - Tyler Harrington (North Dakota State) won by injury default over Tobias Northrup (Unattached) (Inj. 0:00)
1st Place Match - Jake Residori (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) won by major decision over Tyler Harrington (North Dakota State) (Maj 14-3)

Open 174 - Carter Nielsen's place is 3rd and has scored 15.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Carter Nielsen (North Dakota State) won by decision over Clayton Bass (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) (Dec 4-0)
Quarterfinal - Carter Nielsen (North Dakota State) won by major decision over Derrick Huber (Grand View ) (Maj 16-3)
Semifinal - Jake Residori (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) won by decision over Carter Nielsen (North Dakota State) (Dec 4-2)
Cons. Semi - Carter Nielsen (North Dakota State) won by decision over Dylan Blackford (Grand View ) (Dec 6-1)
3rd Place Match - Carter Nielsen (North Dakota State) won by decision over Derrick Huber (Grand View ) (Dec 6-4)

Open 184 - Alexander Bleeker's place is 6th and has scored 7.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Alexander Bleeker (North Dakota State) won by decision over Nick Wise (William Penn ) (Dec 11-5)
Quarterfinal - Alexander Bleeker (North Dakota State) won by fall over Asiah Dyer (Midland University) (Fall 4:53)
Semifinal - Michael Pixley (Grand View ) won by fall over Alexander Bleeker (North Dakota State) (Fall 0:15)
Cons. Semi - Josh Casperson (South Dakota State) won by fall over Alexander Bleeker (North Dakota State) (Fall 2:07)
5th Place Match - Damonte Stogner (Grand View ) won by fall over Alexander Bleeker (North Dakota State) (Fall 2:28)

Open 197 - Cordell Eaton's place is unknown and has scored 10.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Cordell Eaton (North Dakota State) received a bye () (Bye)
Champ. Round 2 - Cordell Eaton (North Dakota State) won by fall over Brandon Ott (Ottawa University) (Fall 1:01)
Quarterfinal - Matthew Hurford (Unattached) won by decision over Cordell Eaton (North Dakota State) (Dec 10-5)
Cons. Round 4 - Cordell Eaton (North Dakota State) won by major decision over Mathew McClimens (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) (Maj 13-4)
Cons. Round 5 - Ken Burkhardt Jr (Concordia) won by decision over Cordell Eaton (North Dakota State) (Dec 11-10)

Open 285 - Carson Hagen's place is unknown and has scored 3.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Dean Broghammer (Grand View ) won by tech fall over Carson Hagen (North Dakota State) (TF 16-0)
Cons. Round 1 - Carson Hagen (North Dakota State) won by fall over Tyler Styrk (William Penn ) (Fall 4:46)
Cons. Round 2 - Aaron Rafalko (Midland University) won by decision over Carson Hagen (North Dakota State) (Dec 4-1)

Open 285 - Vince Feola's place is unknown and has scored 3.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Ceron Francisco (Concordia) won by major decision over Vince Feola (North Dakota State) (Maj 10-2)
Cons. Round 1 - Vince Feola (North Dakota State) won by major decision over Alex Hermes (Iowa Lakes Community College) (Maj 10-1)
Cons. Round 2 - Vince Feola (North Dakota State) won by decision over Maury Lemons (Midland University) (Dec 6-5)
Cons. Round 3 - Jake McKiernan (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) won by fall over Vince Feola (North Dakota State) (Fall 2:13)

Open 285 - Jon Zeidler's place is unknown and has scored 1.00 team points.
Champ. Round 1 - Jon Scanlan (Iowa State University) won by major decision over Jon Zeidler (North Dakota State) (Maj 12-1)
Cons. Round 1 - Jon Zeidler (North Dakota State) won by decision over Scott Pitrowski (Calumet College of St. Joseph) (Dec 7-1)
Cons. Round 2 - Jake McKiernan (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) won by fall over Jon Zeidler (North Dakota State) (Fall 0:51)