2016 Verbal: Shaun Beyer | TE

[Jay]

6'5" 210 | TE

Offers: Illinois State, UNI, SDSU, WIU

http://bisonation.info/te-shaun-beyer-shellsburg-ia-2016-offer/

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Shaun-Beyer-172458

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2287738/shaun-beyer

@Beyer10Shaun: Excited to announce that I have verbally committed to play football at North Dakota State University! �� #BisoNation http://t.co/vArfTvvTZ6

[BisonNation11]

Excellent get!!! Right out of UNI's backyard!!! Don't know how Kli does it, but whatever he's doing I hope he keeps it up!

[gumby013]

Welcome Shaun!

[Herd890]

Wow, I thought from the Scout article that he would likely not commit until after the season. Must have had a great visit last week. Kid looks like a great athlete.

Welcome Shaun!

[CaBisonFan]

Welcome to Bison Nation Shaun !!

[Christopher Moen]

I see he has a wrestling background. That will come to use if he becomes big enough to be a lineman.

[westnodak93bison]

Yes welcome to the Bison!

[Bisonfaithful]

That size and speed would really clog up the middle if they slot him at a LB. Looks like a great get!

[EndZoneQB]

Keeping winning battles!

[bisonpride4ever]

BOOM!

Welcome to the Family!


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[Bisonwinagn]

Welcome aboard. Love seeing recruits with multiple MVFC offers!!

[17>1]

Welcome aboard. Love seeing recruits with multiple MVFC offers!!

Especially when it's UNI, ISUr, and SDSU!!

[Mr Meaty]

Welcome Shaun.

[ZHerd]

Welcome Shaun.

Sweet. Pretty nice looking list of MVC teams beat out to get this guy

[HerdBot]

Booyah! Now the question... TE or Dline?
Welcome aboard!

[GOBISON123]

Welcome to BisonNation Shaun.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Great get! Welcome to NDSU! I just wish coach Klieman cared more about the kicking game! I mean Gabe wants more specialists on full rides.....how do I roll my eyes from my phone on the pontoon. I get embarrassed I read some of that garbage. Yeah..like he doesn't know the importance of the special teams. Laughing at u..not with u

[HerdBot]

Great get! Welcome to NDSU! I just wish coach Klieman cared more about the kicking game! I mean Gabe wants more specialists on full rides.....how do I roll my eyes from my phone on the pontoon. I get embarrassed I read some of that garbage. Yeah..like he doesn't know the importance of the special teams. Laughing at u..not with u

I was agreeing with another poster. It wasn't even my comment to begin with. Boy are you sensitive

[BisonNeil]

I was agreeing with another poster. It wasn't even my comment to begin with. Boy are you sensitive

Nah, Burg just likes being an asshole to other posters and act like he is a big shot who knows everything. His fucking ego is so large that it has to be fed. Don't. Put him on ignore so you only have to read his shit when someone else, like you, quote him.

[tony]

Well that escalated quickly.

Coaches told him he was being recruited as a TE so I wouldn't expect him to end up on the defensive side of the ball.

[HerdBot]

Nah, Burg just likes being an asshole to other posters and act like he is a big shot who knows everything. His fucking ego is so large that it has to be fed. Don't. Put him on ignore so you only have to read his shit when someone else, like you, quote him.

Lol. He sure knows how to keep it classy. And seriously, they weren't even negative posts. Just observations and opinions. And valid opinions when it comes to special teams players.

[KC Bison]

Looks like he needs to put on some pounds to be an effective Bison TE but looks strong playing defense.

[SamsRams]

L
Well that escalated quickly.

Coaches told him he was being recruited as a TE so I wouldn't expect him to end up on the defensive side of the ball.

I have been 100% on my site when listing what position they will play at NDSU. I got killed on Morlock and Deluca by some but I stood by my position listing. He is 100% being recruited as a TE at this point

[Professor Chaos]

Scout is reporting that Shaun Beyer was offered by Nebraska.

https://twitter.com/NDSUonScout/status/662102290497732608

This would undoubtedly be the biggest recruiting win NDSU has pulled off if he sticks with his verbal but I wouldn't blame for jumping at the opportunity at UNL.

[ZHerd]

I'd love to see NDSU win this head to head and hope Shaun sticks with his commit. I think it's possible. NDSU is an excellent program and Nebraska is very unstable

[Bison_Pride]

Lincoln is 3 hours closer to his hometown. So if he decommits, we could always blame that I guess.

[HerdBot]

Given Nebraska fires coaches who win 9 and 10 games and fires grest coaches after 1 losing season, I would be shocked if they have their head coach at the end of the year. This will be their worst season in modern history. Not a stable time. Its Nebraska and it's run by the donors, not the AD. History always repeats itself.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Gabe....u have no idea what u are talking about. Sorry. U literally are lost!

[tjbison]

Good luck to Shaun, tough choices but Nebraska is hard to turn down

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[Herd890]

This year aside, Nebraska is a great program with tremendous fan support like we have.

Congrats to Shaun on the offer and best of luck to him in his decision. He is a crazy athlete and I think his ceiling is really high.

[HerdBot]

Gabe....u have no idea what u are talking about. Sorry. U literally are lost!

Have you actually paid attention to what's going on at Nebraska? Their AD has to do press releases after losses now to calm down fans who want him fired.

I actually really like Nebraska. Best atmosphere in football. Tough offer to turn down but to call the situation stable...

[Bison"FANatic"]

Have you actually paid attention to what's going on at Nebraska? Their AD has to do press releases after losses now to calm down fans who want him fired.

I actually really like Nebraska. Best atmosphere in football. Tough offer to turn down but to call the situation stable...

I am pretty sure he actually has season tickets for Nebraska. I may be wrong but I would bet he follows them a heck of closer than most on this board do.

[BadlandsBison]

A few years ago I think Missouri State, of all places, beat Nebraska head to head for a recruit. Not impossible!

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[steelbison]

Guys. I love your optimism but let's get real. This kid is gone. Best of luck to him. Next man up.


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[bruinbison]

Congrats to Shaun Beyer on his FBS offers. Great for him to have
choices, perhaps more to come.



Nebraska officially offered the Cedar Rapids Kennedy senior tight end Wednesday, according to Kennedy Coach Brian White. He said Beyer plans on being at the Nebraska-Iowa game the day after Thanksgiving “wearing red.”

Air Force also recently offered Beyer, who is 6-foot-5 and can run. Military academies do not give athletics scholarships, but all schooling and athletic endeavors are paid for.

Earlier in the fall, Beyer committed to FCS national champion North Dakota State, though he hoped some FBS program would come along. Iowa Coach Reese Morgan has scouted him during Kennedy games, but as of yet, the Hawkeyes have not offered a scholarship.

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/blogs/diamonds-and-ice-by-jeff-johnson/kennedys-beyer-gets-nebraska-football-offer-20151104?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GazetteOnlineSports+%28TheGaz ette.com+Sports+News%29

[HerdBot]

Guys. I love your optimism but let's get real. This kid is gone. Best of luck to him. Next man up.


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Yeah that's pretty much a foregone conclusion unless the coach ends up getting shit canned which is a slight possibility. But now that Nebraska has offered, he will start seeing more big offers anyway so I say he's gone. He said pretty clearly in the scout interview that he's still open to Nebraska, Iowa, and Iowa State. That's ok though. Congrats to the kid. At least we know were recruiting the right guys. I do really like Gabe Lloyd and TE isn't a spot we're weak at by any means with guys like Ellefson who also had a Big 10 offer.

[ndsubison1]

Have you actually paid attention to what's going on at Nebraska? Their AD has to do press releases after losses now to calm down fans who want him fired.

I actually really like Nebraska. Best atmosphere in football. Tough offer to turn down but to call the situation stable...

This isn't Purdue or a Mac school were talking about. Nebraska is still highly regarded by ppl and 99.9% of recruits would choose them over us.

[ZHerd]

This isn't Purdue or a Mac school were talking about. Nebraska is still highly regarded by ppl and 99.9% of recruits would choose them over us.

Which is partly why it would be so much fun to beat them. Doesn't sound promising though

[THEsocalledfan]

This isn't Purdue or a Mac school were talking about. Nebraska is still highly regarded by ppl and 99.9% of recruits would choose them over us.

The interesting part of this to me, is the situation verbaling puts these young kids in this situation. On one hand, coaches want you to verbal so they know where they stand, particularly with their scholies/positions. On the other, the kid has to feel pressured a bit to say yes, then something like this happens and they have to feel a bit bad if/when they back out. Now, I think he should take the Big Red offer; I just find the whole system interesting.

So, what do you do as a coach at NDSU, now? Just give him space? That would probably be what I would do, but I am sure they want to know if they have that scholie available, so wonder how long they wait.

[westnodak93bison]

This isn't Purdue or a Mac school were talking about. Nebraska is still highly regarded by ppl and 99.9% of recruits would choose them over us.
So you are saying there's a chance? Maybe he values culture over mediocrity? This ain't the NE of the 90's. Maybe he will ponder what program will develop him to his potential? Not everyone will chose a Mercedes over a pickup truck. Does NE even use a TE? I don't know cause I can't stand watching shitty football.

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[MAKBison]

The interesting part of this to me, is the situation verbaling puts these young kids in this situation. On one hand, coaches want you to verbal so they know where they stand, particularly with their scholies/positions. On the other, the kid has to feel pressured a bit to say yes, then something like this happens and they have to feel a bit bad if/when they back out. Now, I think he should take the Big Red offer; I just find the whole system interesting.

So, what do you do as a coach at NDSU, now? Just give him space? That would probably be what I would do, but I am sure they want to know if they have that scholie available, so wonder how long they wait.

At the same time SU has a business to run so you cant really give him too much space. (the term business in this case is intentional)

[HerdBot]

This isn't Purdue or a Mac school were talking about. Nebraska is still highly regarded by ppl and 99.9% of recruits would choose them over us.

That has nothing to do with my point. The point is an offer isn't always there if a coach isn't there at the end of the season. Nebraska is having their worst season in modern history and the fans are pissed. When fans are pissed coaches get canned. Bo Pelini got canned depsite winning 9 or 10 games ever single single season. What would have happened had he won 4 games?

[ZHerd]

That has nothing to do with my point. The point is an offer isn't always there if a coach isn't there at the end of the season. Nebraska is having their worst season in modern history and the fans are pissed. When fans are pissed coaches get canned. Bo Pelini got canned depsite winning 9 or 10 games ever single single season. What would have happened had he won 4 games?

Riley will probably be in his yard in Corvallis pushing around a lawnmower this coming spring

[Tony Almeida]

Not worried about losing a TE because we seem to get plenty of them with enough talent every year . . . unless, we had other plans for him like say WR then I would be upset...in his videos, he looks more like a WR to me and a tall one at that...

[Kujava23]

So you are saying there's a chance? Maybe he values culture over mediocrity? This ain't the NE of the 90's. Maybe he will ponder what program will develop him to his potential? Not everyone will chose a Mercedes over a pickup truck. Does NE even use a TE? I don't know cause I can't stand watching shitty football.

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Exactly, bigger doesn't always mean better!
Plus, with the current state of their program I would think that would scare off some recruits
Everyone values different things though

[HerdBot]

Exactly, bigger doesn't always mean better!
Plus, with the current state of their program I would think that would scare off some recruits
Everyone values different things though

I think the only thing that could possibly scare him off is the head coaches job stability. Since Tom Osbourne has left...

Frank Solich was fired in 2003 2 years removed from the National Championship game after a 10 win season.
Bill Callahan was fired in 2007 after a losing season, 1 year after winning the Big 12 North
Bo Pelini was fired despite 9-10 win seasons and top 25 rankings every year... and paid 8 million to leave


Mike Riley... 3-6 with late season bad loss vs Purdue. 1 win in the Big 12 with games left vs Iowa and Michigan State.... his 3 wins come vs a Sunbelt team, a below .500 Gophers team, and the signature win is vs Southern Miss.

If they get smoked at home vs Michigan State or Iowa... things will get interesting. Given the fact he had 2 straight losing seasons his last 2 at oregon state already has Nebraska fans skeptical

[tjbison]

Nebraska will not be his last offer

look for Iowa and maybe a couple others. I'm guessing an Iowa offer would be accepted right away, then again he may accept the UNL offer during his visit. either way I would say the chances of him coming here are slim to none right now.

bonus if he does and congrats to him on either road he chooses, after all he got and accepted a verbal from the best FCS program in the country, that's a pretty good resume

[Bison53]

Is Shawn a punter too?

[MAKBison]

I guess its the ol' the chips will fall wherever they fall adage.

[SDbison]

Maybe the kid will see he may get more game experience and exposure playing for the Bison. There are hundreds of TE's that start in the FBS. Seems NFL scouts have their eye on the Bison to see who might develop into a pro talent.

[MAKBison]

Maybe the kid will see he may get more game experience and exposure playing for the Bison. There are hundreds of TE's that start in the FBS. Seems NFL scouts have their eye on the Bison to see who might develop into a pro talent.

or the kid likes the coaches or the program or ......we wont know until we know :biggrin:

[ByeSonBusiness]

Given Nebraska fires coaches who win 9 and 10 games and fires grest coaches after 1 losing season, I would be shocked if they have their head coach at the end of the year. This will be their worst season in modern history. Not a stable time. Its Nebraska and it's run by the donors, not the AD. History always repeats itself.

Are you insane?

Goodness gracious.


So you are saying there's a chance? Maybe he values culture over mediocrity? This ain't the NE of the 90's. Maybe he will ponder what program will develop him to his potential? Not everyone will chose a Mercedes over a pickup truck. Does NE even use a TE? I don't know cause I can't stand watching shitty football.

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Nebraska has an awesome football culture... And puts plenty of players into the league. Nebraska may not be what it used to be, but it's certainly not "shitty" football.

[tjbison]

Are you insane?

Goodness gracious.



Nebraska has an awesome football culture... And puts plenty of players into the league. Nebraska may not be what it used to be, but it's certainly not "shitty" football.

yeah, not sure what's being smoked but, it's nebraska, not Purdue, illinois, Kansas etc.

[HerdBot]

Are you insane?

Goodness gracious.





Well see how insane I am when Nebraska gets stomped in their last 2 home games and in Nebraska like overreaction, shit cans their coach. Nebraska does not accept losing much less ass whooping

[HerdBot]

Here's a question. .. can we confirm he was offered a scholarship? I assumed so but who knows maybe it was a preferred walk on or a grey shirt? If that's the case, who knows. We've beaten Big 10 teams quite a few times for walk ons. Looking at his skills I highly doubt it was a PWO but I gotta at least ask

[tjbison]

Here's a question. .. can we confirm he was offered a scholarship? I assumed so but who knows maybe it was a preferred walk on or a grey shirt? If that's the case, who knows. We've beaten Big 10 teams quite a few times for walk ons. Looking at his skills I highly doubt it was a PWO but I gotta at least ask

he tweeted it himself, that he received an offer and is making the visit

but no I guess it never was laid out full or PWO but it really doesn't matter

[HerdBot]

he tweeted it himself, that he received an offer and is making the visit

but no I guess it never was laid out full or PWO but it really doesn't matter

It could matter depending on the person... its a huge difference between paying out of state cash tuitiom and volunteering your time vs getting a scholarship with full cost of attendance at Nebraska. I'm just not one to jump to conclusions based on a tweet. At this point we know they offered him and he's visiting. If it's a scholarship I would jump to a conclusion. Many of us assumed Easton Stick was going to be playing in the Big 10 after an offer. .. including me.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Well see how insane I am when Nebraska gets stomped in their last 2 home games and in Nebraska like overreaction, shit cans their coach. Nebraska does not accept losing much less ass whooping

I would be interested to hear about these Nebraska-like overreactions.

[HerdBot]

I would be interested to hear about these Nebraska-like overreactions.

Would you also like to hear about how the cave men discovered fire?

[ByeSonBusiness]

Would you also like to hear about how the cave men discovered fire?

Still waiting.

[KilldeerBison]

I remember we got Brock Jensen after two guys were offered before him, they both took FBS offers. Then Brock was offered last, I remember how excited he was to come to NDSU, to get a chance. Point is, if he goes to Nebraska, that opens the scholarship our coaches can offer to another athelete. NDSU has a pretty good history of developing players into great players, that starts with them being excited to be here. Where ever he goes, he needs be excited about it.

[HerdBot]

Still waiting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygpzm0S_rPQ&app=desktop

[Tony Almeida]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygpzm0S_rPQ&app=desktop

I just spit out my morning hot toddy when I saw this!

[SDbison]

I posted this in another thread and it's really applicable here:
I think FBS programs are now looking to poach Bison commits if they run low in a certain position and don't have enough candidates. Why not, it's easy.
Nebraska I am talking about you...........go find your own recruits..........I like Nebraska, but I guess they are so desperate they need to poach from a great FCS team in their neighborhood.

[ByeSonBusiness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygpzm0S_rPQ&app=desktop

... So about those Nebraska overreactions...?

[tjbison]

ok, this thread has ran its course until an official answer is known

[Professor Chaos]

I posted this in another thread and it's really applicable here:
I think FBS programs are now looking to poach Bison commits if they run low in a certain position and don't have enough candidates. Why not, it's easy.
Nebraska I am talking about you...........go find your own recruits..........I like Nebraska, but I guess they are so desperate they need to poach from a great FCS team in their neighborhood.
NDSU and many other schools at all levels do the same thing. Last year Michael Veldman was a Western Illinois verbal until NDSU offered at least a partial and now he's redshirting in Fargo.

If the kid hasn't signed he has every right to still field offers and choose what's best for him. That being said I'd be all for an early signing period in college football like college basketball does but the SEC schools at the top of the recruiting food chain won't allow that to happen because they're always on the Nebraska side of these situations.

[HerdBot]

... So about those Nebraska overreactions...?

In 1969, Neil Armstrong was the first man to walk on the moon.

[ByeSonBusiness]

In 1969, Neil Armstrong was the first man to walk on the moon.

So it's settled.

[HerdBot]

So it's settled.

Yes sir it is.

[ByeSonBusiness]

Yes sir it is.

So Nebraska.... Beat a top ten school today eh?

[HerdBot]

So Nebraska.... Beat a top ten school today eh?

I'm a Nebraska fan. Good win. May have saved Rileys job. Thst should take away doubt that he will be canned

[Snowgoose]

Until these last two weeks I would told Shaun to consider going somewhere cause Polasek had virtually taken the TE out of our offense the first half of this year, but since wentz went down it seems like we are back to being under center more and using play action passes to our TE. hopefully he doesn't forget that.

[GOBISON123]

Until these last two weeks I would told Shaun to consider going somewhere cause Polasek had virtually taken the TE out of our offense the first half of this year, but since wentz went down it seems like we are back to being under center more and using play action passes to our TE. hopefully he doesn't forget that.

Not using the TEs and Darius Shepard is by design. I believe Polasek is saving those plays for the playoffs.

[Tony Almeida]

Not using the TEs and Darius Shepard is by design. I believe Polasek is saving those plays for the playoffs.

Oh geez, not this again...put it in purple please.

[southcliffbison]

I'm a Nebraska fan. Good win. May have saved Rileys job. Thst should take away doubt that he will be canned

Good and a very lucky win; the wr stepped out of bounds and the db then let up on the play, rightfully thinking the wr had no eligibility to catch the ball. Major sports networks are hammering the officials in that game for the non call. Wouldn't surprise me if this bunch of officials get suspended like the ones from the Miami game.

[BFKasper14]

Any word yet on Shaun to Nebraska or Ko to Minnesota?


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[Mr Meaty]

Any word yet on Shaun to Nebraska or Ko to Minnesota?


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no news is good news, but there is a long way to go until we know for sure.

[Jay]

Was offered and committed to Iowa. Congrats and best wishes to Shaun!

[Mr Meaty]

Was offered and committed to Iowa. Congrats and best wishes to Shaun!

Hard to pass up on the #4 ranked team in FBS. Good Luck and best wishes. I guess we will see him next year.

[Professor Chaos]

Hard to pass up on the #4 ranked team in FBS. Good Luck and best wishes. I guess we will see him next year.
Especially when his high school is a half hour away from Kinnick Stadium.

[ndsubison1]

Ill laugh when we beat Iowa next year.

[ZHerd]

Ill laugh when we beat Iowa next year.

I think that we can win that game but it's a very tall order. I'm not sure who Iowa returns next year but if it's largely the current squad then it will be the best team NDSU has faced and I doubt it will be with the best team we have ever fielded. But yes it would be pretty sweet...and funny. The Bison are magic in big time games. It's a very dangerous game for Iowa

[ndsubison1]

I think that we can win that game but it's a very tall order. I'm not sure who Iowa returns next year but if it's largely the current squad then it will be the best team NDSU has faced and I doubt it will be with the best team we have ever fielded. But yes it would be pretty sweet...and funny. The Bison are magic in big time games. It's a very dangerous game for Iowa

They would return something around 13 starters last time I checked. But they are always physical.

[SDbison]

Good job cherry picking FCS for your recruits Iowa. Screw the Fhawkeyes. This is one FBS game the Bison need to win.

[ZHerd]

They would return something around 13 starters last time I checked. But they are always physical.

They are more physical than any other FBS team we've faced and we won't surprise them with our own physicality. It's largely why no other FCS team has been able to beat them. We will be returning a good o-line, and our most experienced D-line since 2013 so I like our chances. Losing our 2 cbs, 2 main fullbacks and Wentz is a concern.

[ZHerd]

Good job cherry picking FCS for your recruits Iowa. Screw the Fhawkeyes. This is one FBS game the Bison need to win.

Your car is Hawkeye colors...poser :P

[SDbison]

Your car is Hawkeye colors...poser :P I did buy it in Iowa City, although, the Bison have done pretty well since and the shade of yellow is correct for the Bison. My car will return to Iowa City next September to bring home another Bison victory over FBS.

[ZHerd]

I did buy it in Iowa City, although, the Bison have done pretty well since and the shade of yellow is correct for the Bison. My car will return to Iowa City next September to bring home another Bison victory over FBS.

Hey whatever works

[MAKBison]

Kids gotta do what he thinks works best for him. With that being said, a spot just opened up and I am not sure we need anther TE...who is the next target and at what position?

[Jay]

Kids gotta do what he thinks works best for him. With that being said, a spot just opened up and I am not sure we need anther TE...who is the next target and at what position?

I still think Heismeyer (http://www.scout.com/college/north-dakota-state/story/1563739-heismeyer-excels-at-ndsu-camp) ends up here at some point at the TE position. Jabril Cox would be the most recent guy.

I also want the MHD guys in Bison colors.

[Christopher Moen]

They are more physical than any other FBS team we've faced and we won't surprise them with our own physicality. It's largely why no other FCS team has been able to beat them. We will be returning a good o-line, and our most experienced D-line since 2013 so I like our chances. Losing our 2 cbs, 2 main fullbacks and Wentz is a concern.

I was doing a quick scan over their roster last night and the one glaring thing that stood out to me was their lack of players over 300 LBS. I counted 7 Hawkeye players 300 LBS and over, while NDSU currently has 11.


For more equal comparison, here's how many players that are 300 LBS and over for the other Big 10 teams:

Illinois - 16 players
Indiana - 15 players
Maryland - 20 players
Michigan - 8 players
Michigan State - 14 players
Minnesota - 11 players
Nebraska - 14 players
Northwestern - 10 players
Ohio State - 18 players
Penn State - 15 players
Purdue - 11 players (including one weighing 420 LBS)
Rutgers - 8 players
Wisconsin - 17 players


For more comparison, here's how many some of the best P5 schools have players 300 LBS and over:

Alabama - 18 players
Baylor - 17 players (including one weighting 410 LBS)
Clemson - 13 players
Florida - 17 players
Florida State - 19 players
Notre Dame - 22 players
Oklahoma - 16 players
Oklahoma State - 15 players
Oregon - 11 players
Stanford - 6 players


Finally, here's the number of players 300 LBS and over for the best FCS schools:

Charleston Southern - 1 player
Chattanooga - 8 players
Coastal Carolina - 6 players
Illinois State - 3 players
Jacksonville State - 11 players
James Madison - 5 players
McNeese State - 4 players
Montana - 4 players
Northern Iowa - 6 players
Portland State - 6 players
Richmond - 4 players
Sam Houston State - 8 players
South Dakota State - 4 players
Southern Utah - 7 players
Western Illinois - 8 players
William & Mary - 10 players


While I cannot directly correlate team success with the number of players 300 LBS and over, I can conclude that NDSU matches up size-wise fairly well with the most successful programs in FBS when comparing lineman.

[CaBisonFan]

Good luck to Shaun. We'll be fine at TE.

[ZHerd]

I was doing a quick scan over their roster last night and the one glaring thing that stood out to me was their lack of players over 300 LBS. I counted 7 Hawkeye players 300 LBS and over, while NDSU currently has 11.


For more equal comparison, here's how many players that are 300 LBS and over for the other Big 10 teams:

Illinois - 16 players
Indiana - 15 players
Maryland - 20 players
Michigan - 8 players
Michigan State - 14 players
Minnesota - 11 players
Nebraska - 14 players
Northwestern - 10 players
Ohio State - 18 players
Penn State - 15 players
Purdue - 11 players (including one weighing 420 LBS)
Rutgers - 8 players
Wisconsin - 17 players


For more comparison, here's how many some of the best P5 schools have players 300 LBS and over:

Alabama - 18 players
Baylor - 17 players (including one weighting 410 LBS)
Clemson - 13 players
Florida - 17 players
Florida State - 19 players
Notre Dame - 22 players
Oklahoma - 16 players
Oklahoma State - 15 players
Oregon - 11 players
Stanford - 6 players


Finally, here's the number of players 300 LBS and over for the best FCS schools:

Charleston Southern - 1 player
Chattanooga - 8 players
Coastal Carolina - 6 players
Illinois State - 3 players
Jacksonville State - 11 players
James Madison - 5 players
McNeese State - 4 players
Montana - 4 players
Northern Iowa - 6 players
Portland State - 6 players
Richmond - 4 players
Sam Houston State - 8 players
South Dakota State - 4 players
Southern Utah - 7 players
Western Illinois - 8 players
William & Mary - 10 players


While I cannot directly correlate team success with the number of players 300 LBS and over, I can conclude that NDSU matches up size-wise fairly well with the most successful programs in FBS when comparing lineman.

Good research and interesting numbers. Over the summer I compared us to two P5 conferences with o-line size and found that NDSU would have been one of the largest in Pac-12 (top 3 if I recall correctly) and in the top half of B10 lines as well. That fact would give me more confidence in regards to Iowa if the Hawkeyes were not kicking bigger lines butts. It will be a very interesting matchup.
Edit: height and weight were factored into the comparison I put together but I only looked at projected starters

[HerdBot]

Was offered and committed to Iowa. Congrats and best wishes to Shaun!

That's awesome for a home town kid. Congrats

[ndsubison1]

He has every right to take whatever offer he gets. He's not going to be a Bison so I couldnt care less now.

[tjbison]

He has every right to take whatever offer he gets. He's not going to be a Bison so I couldnt care less now.
Exactly this

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[SDbison]

Shaun who? Once a B.....oh never mind.

[SDbison]

Just would love to read this kids mind when he watches the Bison beat the Fhawkeyes next September.............

[Professor Chaos]

Just would love to read this kids mind when he watches the Bison beat the Fhawkeyes next September.............
I doubt he'll regret his decision one iota.

Would you hold it against a kid from say Casselton who verbally committed to UM-Duluth but jumped at an NDSU offer made later in the recruiting process, essentially eschewing his UMD commitment? It's basically the same situation we have here with Beyer.

[tjbison]

I doubt he'll regret his decision one iota.

Would you hold it against a kid from say Casselton who verbally committed to UM-Duluth but jumped at an NDSU offer made later in the recruiting process, essentially eschewing his UMD commitment? It's basically the same situation we have here with Beyer.

we have did this exact thing in the recent past.....

[SDbison]

I doubt he'll regret his decision one iota.

Would you hold it against a kid from say Casselton who verbally committed to UM-Duluth but jumped at an NDSU offer made later in the recruiting process, essentially eschewing his UMD commitment? It's basically the same situation we have here with Beyer. I don't care one bit about this kid since he is not a Bison. And I don't care about UM-Duluth or Iowa. But you just keep worrying about them all for the rest of us.

[Professor Chaos]

I don't care one bit about this kid since he is not a Bison. And I don't care about UM-Duluth or Iowa. But you just keep worrying about them all for the rest of us.
I'm not worried about it one bit. I guarantee you that a good number of the kids who are wearing green and yellow right now wouldn't be had the Big Ten school in their backyard offered them. I'm just trying to put it in perspective because you seem to be holding it against the kid as if he's somehow cheated on the Bison.

[NDSU_grad]

Just would love to read this kids mind when he watches the Bison beat the Fhawkeyes next September.............

So if the Bison lose to Iowa next year does that validate his decision?

[THEsocalledfan]

Put this kid in the NDSU lost to Iowa category; I'd like to see a running list of the de-commitments somewhere.

[roadwarrior]

Doesn't an occasional de-commit show that our coaching staff is aiming high in their recruiting process?

[OrygunBison]

Doesn't an occasional de-commit show that our coaching staff is aiming high in their recruiting process?

How dare you spin this into a positive statement!!

[tjbison]

Doesn't an occasional de-commit show that our coaching staff is aiming high in their recruiting process?

no, no im sure to some they didnt do their job to retain him, and the kid was a loser anyway............

[THEsocalledfan]

Doesn't an occasional de-commit show that our coaching staff is aiming high in their recruiting process?

I'd say we should fire them if that was not the case. I can't help but wonder just how tricky this line is to navigate. On one hand, you want the very best. On the other, you risk blowing holes in your recruiting if you have multiple folks de-commit on you. I'd love to hear an in depth discussion on this. Can't be super easy and I can't blame the kids for what they do as they want to lock down the offers, but yet don't want to miss out on what they consider a better opportunity.

[bisonpride4ever]

Doesn't an occasional de-commit show that our coaching staff is aiming high in their recruiting process?


How dare you spin this into a positive statement!!

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