2015 Season Ticket Renewals

[gumby013]

Received my season ticket renewal form in the mail today. $205 per seat this year.

Previously my seats had no donation amount attached to them, but there is now one for $100 per seat. I had been expecting it to happen sooner or later. Maybe this will free up some seats for those of us willing to pay.

[roadwarrior]

Another change this year: no more free tickets with the 1/2, 3/4, and full scholarship levels.

[BISONFAN4LIFE]

Received my season ticket renewal form in the mail today. $205 per seat this year.

Previously my seats had no donation amount attached to them, but there is now one for $100 per seat. I had been expecting it to happen sooner or later. Maybe this will free up some seats for those of us willing to pay.

Where are you tickets at? Mine didn't either but I think they were doing $50 in section 25.

[gumby013]

Where are you tickets at? Mine didn't either but I think they were doing $50 in section 25.

Section 22, top row...KK

[Mr Meaty]

Section 22, top row...KK

Too high no change up there. I'm in 22 but row e there is a tm fee there.

[gumby013]

Too high no change up there. I'm in 22 but row e there is a tm fee there.

That's why I am posting. There was a change up there. Used to be zero, now it is $100 per seat.

[56BISON73]

Too high no change up there. I'm in 22 but row e there is a tm fee there.

First 14 rows saw an increase.

[tjbison]

Received my season ticket renewal form in the mail today. $205 per seat this year.

Previously my seats had no donation amount attached to them, but there is now one for $100 per seat. I had been expecting it to happen sooner or later. Maybe this will free up some seats for those of us willing to pay.

It's 205 per seat for the entire year, that's 34.17 per game, don't think that's a TM due just a usual yearly price increase

[gumby013]

It's 205 per seat for the entire year, that's 34.17 per game, don't think that's a TM due just a usual yearly price increase

Ticket increase from $185 to $205. Plus the donation increase. Not complaining, just laying out the facts.

[tjbison]

Ticket increase from $185 to $205. Plus the donation increase. Not complaining, just laying out the facts.

Your saying they are forcing you to donate in the top row of section 22?

I have a couple in 22 I picked up a few years ago and there is no TM fees applied or are you voluntarily adding 100 to tm?

[Mr Meaty]

As stated earlier I have 4 seats in row e with tm fee total $100 and I also have two seats in row ee no fee. I am fine with this since I have been a tm for about 4 years.

[gumby013]

Your saying they are forcing you to donate in the top row of section 22?

I have a couple in 22 I picked up a few years ago and there is no TM fees applied or are you voluntarily adding 100 to tm?

Mandatory donation. I normally donate, so it's not a big deal.

http://i.imgur.com/rm2m7eN.jpg

[tjbison]

Mandatory donation. I normally donate, so it's not a big deal.

http://i.imgur.com/rm2m7eN.jpg

Interesting, I don't have a fee on mine. You pick them up recently? And mine are in single letter rows

[gumby013]

Interesting, I don't have a fee on mine. You pick them up recently? And they are in single letter rows

Had them for years. Top row...KK

[scottietohottie]

I thought I herd once that all the sidelines would be tm and some of the front rows in north end zone.

[Honeybooboo]

I too don't have TM fees on the 8 I have for friends in 22

Rows w and y

Just 205 each...had them since 2007

[Bison Loaf]

Previously my seats had no donation amount attached to them, but there is now one for $100 per seat. I had been expecting it to happen sooner or later. Maybe this will free up some seats for those of us willing to pay.

Maybe, but I highly doubt it. Too much demand built up.

And that demand has been built up by a great product and, frankly, a very well-handled policy by NDSU and Team Makers of not getting too far ahead of that demand. And I think most of us "long-timers" appreciate that. It's not enough just to have a great football team. You have to generate, then manage, demand for the product and let it feed upon itself for growth. A hundred dollar seat donation/fee is just a little fertilizer for the growth. (and no, I'm not a farmer!)

I also want to make it clear that I know you are not complaining :) before I say to anyone else that, IMO, a $100, one-time-per-year Team Maker fee for ANY seat in that Dome is an absolute steal considering the great product put on the field. My fee/donation is much more than that ;), but well, well worth it for all the great enjoyment I get out of Bison Football.

[roadwarrior]

Mandatory donation. I normally donate, so it's not a big deal.

http://i.imgur.com/rm2m7eN.jpg

If you voluntarily donated $200 last year, I think they just carry that forward to the billing this year.

[gumby013]

If you voluntarily donated $200 last year, I think they just carry that forward to the billing this year.

Is there a cutoff for that? Example: would I be charged $10K if that is what I voluntarily donated last year?

[BisonFan02]

Just logged in to my account (since I haven't gotten my mailer yet). Section 6, rows Q and R at $205 each with no dues listed in my "pay now" link.

[aces1180]

I have 11 seats in section 9...$25 fee attached to each seat for TM...$155 each

[MNLonghorn10]

160 each in the tatankaless end zone

[Tatanka]

160 each in the tatankaless end zone


Clearly, it's $5 cheaper per seat because they have to look at me from behind whereas you get the benefit of full frontal tatanka.

[bisonfanette]

Clearly, it's $5 cheaper per seat because they have to look at me from behind whereas you get the benefit of full frontal tatanka.

OMGosh!!! About ready to throw up in anticipation of what the cost of a "side-view" may be??!!! :)

[BisoninNWMN]

In 2004, when I started to buy season tickets, my TM dues in section 20 row c were $150/seat and now they are $575/seat. IMO, that is a bargain and would pay whatever price they were set at. I think now those seats TM dues would be a lot higher if someone else picked them up if I didn't renew them.

My 4 tickets with the TMer dues will be $3130.00 this year. I would pay more to see the best team in the country...:)


GO BISON

[tjbison]

The reality of it imo is NDSU is handling this tm fees issue perfectly. Can't come in and raise them so high it forces people out and causes them to stop supporting so a little bit every year people can handle as its normal for anything to increase.

I feel it would have been disastrous to just say to longtime fans pay up or get out, don't think there would have been enough money to cover what could have been lost

[bajadanny]

I will be out of the country for quite awhile, I have a question about when the tickets need to be renewed?

Thanks anyone

[loudsilverado]

Here we go with the cheap ass idiots whining that their tickets are more expensive.....

[BisoninNWMN]

Here we go with the cheap ass idiots whining that their tickets are more expensive.....


Who is whining?

I think most season ticket holders would/will pay more for their tickets.

[tjbison]

Here we go with the cheap ass idiots whining that their tickets are more expensive.....

I don't see anyone whining

It's just a general conversation

[tjbison]

I will be out of the country for quite awhile, I have a question about when the tickets need to be renewed?

Thanks anyone

April 1st is the deadline

They can be renewed on you go bison account also

[bajadanny]

Thanks tjbison

I hope the ticket office had email and they are understanding?

[tjbison]

Thanks tjbison

I hope the ticket office had email and they are understanding?

Are you currently out of the country?

You must have a gobison.com account don't you?

[Bison"FANatic"]

If you voluntarily donated $200 last year, I think they just carry that forward to the billing this year.

Yes it seems this is what they did. We will actually be lowering the amount of my wife's company match we used the last few as we have decided to use it for another organization for a few years. So I will have to call and get it dropped down on the pledge they just carried forward.

[bisonfanette]

If you voluntarily donated $200 last year, I think they just carry that forward to the billing this year.

Yes, my invoice has the cost of tickets ("side-view of Tatanka") plus our TM scholarship donation from last year.
I may have to call Edward!!! :) All worth it baby!
(Edward Jones)

[bajadanny]

Are you currently out of the country?

You must have a gobison.com account don't you?

Yes until first week of April

[Tatanka]

If you voluntarily donated $200 last year, I think they just carry that forward to the billing this year.

Exactly what happened. The portion of my annual donation that now covers my seating obligation for my season tickets in the end zone is now broken out into a separate line item, and the remainder is still in there as a donation. I'm guessing this is because the donation is 100% tax deductible whereas now the portion that relates to seating obligation is only partially so.

Either way it looks like I'll need to renegotiate my media fees as I'm not sure the total compensation any longer covers the total cost of my seats. Teh outrage.

[tjbison]

Yes until first week of April
Can't you renew on gobison.com

If you can access this site you can renew

[Vet70]

Either way it looks like I'll need to renegotiate my media fees as I'm not sure the total compensation any longer covers the total cost of my seats. Teh outrage.

Do you need an agent?

[imabison]

Yes, my invoice has the cost of tickets ("side-view of Tatanka") plus our TM scholarship donation from last year.
I may have to call Edward!!! :) All worth it baby!
(Edward Jones)

I think its the cost of the ticket and the new suggested donation to Team Makers actually, which they might have bumped up from last year.
And yes I think its worth it.

[Tatanka]

Do you need an agent?


Orange? Perhaps.

[Vet70]

Orange? Perhaps.

Already been there done that.

[A1pigskin]

Got my renewal invoice today. Ticket prices went up a little bit.

[BYZEN]

Got my renewal invoice today. Ticket prices went up a little bit.

Butt did you get your Bison Illustrated???:hide:*




*Since my flying monkeys/pony express/Newman has yet to deliver the "information" today.....:praying:

[BlueBisonRock]

Butt did you get your Bison Illustrated???:hide:*




*Since my flying monkeys/pony express/Newman has yet to deliver the "information" today.....:praying:


Yep. Got both. TM up $25 per seat in 21, but no TM fee for section 31. Tickets up $20 per seat.

<Not a complaint. Simply provided for a truth in lending / comparison basis>

[BYZEN]

Butt did you get your Bison Illustrated???:hide:*




*Since my flying monkeys/pony express/Newman has yet to deliver the "information" today.....:praying:


Yep. Got both. TM up $25 per seat in 21, but no TM fee for section 31. Tickets up $20 per seat.

<Not a complaint. Simply provided for a truth in lending / comparison basis>

Thank you for the "INFORMATION".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg_4z2adv6Q

[BlueBisonRock]

Thank you for the "INFORMATION".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg_4z2adv6Q

Yep. Just the facts, Jack.

[bisonfanette]

I think its the cost of the ticket and the new suggested donation to Team Makers actually, which they might have bumped up from last year. And yes I think its worth it.
:)
Mine says:
Team Makers Membership ____ Club (and the $ amt. is the same as last yr.) $_____
2015 Season Football Tickets (side view Tatanka/expensive/don't complain/just pay) $______

[NDSU1980]

I got my invoice from TM today. No tickets of course since there are probably 5000 people ahead of me in points. Anyway, what surprised me was just a bill for the same amount as last year, no encouragement to up the donation. I'm going to up it, but I was really shocked that TM isn't encouraging people to give until it hurts. Some people out there need a little push some times you know, if you get my drift.

[Mr Meaty]

I got my invoice from TM today. No tickets of course since there are probably 5000 people ahead of me in points. Anyway, what surprised me was just a bill for the same amount as last year, no encouragement to up the donation. I'm going to up it, but I was really shocked that TM isn't encouraging people to give until it hurts. Some people out there need a little push some times you know, if you get my drift.


I would agree. At least mention what the next level up from your current level is to encourage that.

[Tatanka]

I would agree. At least mention what the next level up from your current level is to encourage that.

sometimes I wonder if they couldn't maybe use a marketing consultant.

[BisonTeacher]

Didnt renew any tickets but I did renew my teammaker donation!

Edit...anyone know when we can start submitting our annual ticket request for rejection?

[bisonfanette]

sometimes I wonder if they couldn't maybe use a marketing consultant.

No maybe about it. The $100/yr donors should be encouraged to up their donation, as well as the Gold Club, etc! Remember the Bisonviller who had all of those wonderful marketing ideas?

[56BISON73]

Didnt renew any tickets but I did renew my teammaker donation!

Edit...anyone know when we can start submitting our annual ticket request for rejection?

Go to your account at GO Bison. I think there is an option to submit your request.

[BisonTeacher]

Go to your account at GO Bison. I think there is an option to submit your request.

I looked. I didnt see it. I only saw renewals?

YEp...nothing for current non season ticket holders.

There are seat request changes for current ticket holders but thats it.

[bisonfanette]

Go to your account at GO Bison. I think there is an option to submit your request.

You are correct... it's up & running on my computer!

[56BISON73]

I looked. I didnt see it. I only saw renewals?

YEp...nothing for current non season ticket holders.

There are seat request changes for current ticket holders but thats it.

Go to the page that shows your points. Click seating request. next page click add new seating request.

[tjamz]

No maybe about it. The $100/yr donors should be encouraged to up their donation, as well as the Gold Club, etc! Remember the Bisonviller who had all of those wonderful marketing ideas?

I'm still seriously thinking of going to Simmers and pitching a position with them based on those....

[Tatanka]

I'm still seriously thinking of going to Simmers and pitching a position with them based on those....


I encourage you to do this.

[unbison]

You can be a teammaker for a 100 dollars a year???!!!!

[Tatanka]

You can be a teammaker for a 100 dollars a year???!!!!


You don't even have to pay it all at once.

[scottietohottie]

You could actually probably join for half that 1 priority point equals 50 dollars donated. Feed an athlete for a day with that kind of contribution.

[NDSU1980]

You can be a teammaker for a 100 dollars a year???!!!!

That's even too much to pay for some of the "FBS Now" crowd. Everyone else can pay while they make demands.

[Vet70]

You can be a teammaker for a 100 dollars a year???!!!!

I don't know, but my renewal form says "Team Makers Membership-Booster Club" $100 and I have four seats.

[Bison Loaf]

I got my invoice from TM today. No tickets of course since there are probably 5000 people ahead of me in points. Anyway, what surprised me was just a bill for the same amount as last year, no encouragement to up the donation. I'm going to up it, but I was really shocked that TM isn't encouraging people to give until it hurts. Some people out there need a little push some times you know, if you get my drift.


I would agree. At least mention what the next level up from your current level is to encourage that.

Not disagreeing with you, as I think this is something that sure couldn't hurt, but I'm guessing that they are thinking the priority point system is the built-in "encouragement" part of the equation. I'm also guessing quite a few people DO understand that dynamic, and are doing so, at least adequately enough so that NDSU and TM's doesn't feel a burning need to market above that natural response to protect or increase your priority points.

Also, they may not want to mention the next donation level on the actual invoice itself because doing so may give off an unintended and unfullfilable expectation of additional tickets if you do move up a level. "If I've got 2 tickets at this level, I must be able to get 4 at the next level."

Anyway, just speculating here and playing defense counsel after my wonderful stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :)

[Bisonator98]

You can be a teammaker for a 100 dollars a year???!!!!

Yes, every contribution helps. Not everyone has a money tree in the back yard. You won't be getting a seat for $100 though.

[unbison]

Yes, every contribution helps. Not everyone has a money tree in the back yard. You won't be getting a seat for $100 though.

Some get them with no contribution I believe 100 is to low money tree ???? Get real


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[roadwarrior]

My TM dues per seat went up $75 this year (same increase as last year) and are now $900 per seat. I am in a section marked with $2000 per seat.

[Ndsu84]

What are the rules for tax write offs on the donations?

Are there tax credits? Or percentage to write off?

[StL Bison Fan]

I usually double my donation each year, but with a wedding looming, it will just be the same this year.
But! I (and you) can contribute by buying 50/50, going to events, and bidding. We all contribute in others ways but it's so much fun we forget it's donating!

[MNLonghorn10]

That's even too much to pay for some of the "FBS Now" crowd. Everyone else can pay while they make demands.

dance little puppet, dance!

[garbageman]

Don't mind contributing to team makers and plan on upping my contributions again this year I don't have season tickets yet but I do think team maker members without season tickets should get first chance at single game tickets

[BisonTeacher]

but I do think team maker members without season tickets should get first chance at single game tickets

This. Other schools do this. Why we dont is silly imo.

[bisonfanette]

What are the rules for tax write offs on the donations?
Are there tax credits? Or percentage to write off?

All I know is that it makes my husband very happy at tax time!
On gobison questions & answers it say this: A contribution associated with the privilege of purchasing season tickets is deductable as a charitable contribution at 80% of the adjusted gift. (It seems to me as tho this needs to be updated, Tjamz, addressing all contributions etc.)

[scottietohottie]

Renewed season tickets made a donation and a request to move closer which is not going to happen.

[Putz]

but I do think team maker members without season tickets should get first chance at single game tickets

Has anyone ever asked why this isn't done? Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to implement.

[garbageman]

Talked to Simmers about doing it for playoffs he said they couldn't do it for that but was looking into it for next years regular season

[A1pigskin]

Renewed season tickets made a donation and a request to move closer which is not going to happen.

I've requested closer for 4 years. Not a chance it's happening. I've been approached if I would sell my seats to the people next to me, which is not happening, unless they can fund my retirement in full now.

[Vet70]

I've been approached if I would sell my seats to the people next to me, which is not happening, unless they can fund my retirement in full now.

To turn a phrase, I'll give up my season tickets when they pry them from my cold dead hands.

[56BISON73]

Don't mind contributing to team makers and plan on upping my contributions again this year I don't have season tickets yet but I do think team maker members without season tickets should get first chance at single game tickets

They are trying to put something in place to do this. Dont know if they will get it done this year but they are working on it.

[garbageman]

I guess that's all we can ask

[StL Bison Fan]

They are trying to put something in place to do this. Dont know if they will get it done this year but they are working on it.

If uni and usd can do this (although half a$$ed) we should be able to figure it out in 5 minutes

[56BISON73]

If uni and usd can do this (although half a$$ed) we should be able to figure it out in 5 minutes

You know that Everything of this nature is done by committee. Nothing is done by committee in 5 minutes.

[Tatanka]

You know that Everything of this nature is done by committee. Nothing is done by committee in 5 minutes.


Incorrect. They can defer to another committee to avoid even a whiff of accountability in nanoseconds when presented with the opportunity.

[56BISON73]

Incorrect. They can defer to another committee to avoid even a whiff of accountability in nanoseconds when presented with the opportunity.

Well there you go! :biggrin:

[1998braves64]

So I've never asked my employer about matching contribution how do people go about that normally? Does Their contribution count towards my points?

Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

[bisonfanette]

So I've never asked my employer about matching contribution how do people go about that normally? Does Their contribution count towards my points?

Wow. That would be unfair. The rest of us have to call Edward & just scrouge it up! :) I need a new employer!!!

[tjamz]

So I've never asked my employer about matching contribution how do people go about that normally? Does Their contribution count towards my points?

Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

Yes, it certainly does. If you have an employer who will match for charitable contributions typically you just submit your donation and they will cut a check to the same organization on your behalf

[StL Bison Fan]

Yes, it certainly does. If you have an employer who will match for charitable contributions typically you just submit your donation and they will cut a check to the same organization on your behalf

Our co won't match religious or athletic 501c3's. Even for scholarships.
Darn.

[Elvis was a Bison]

dance little puppet, dance!

justify lap dog, justify!

[1998braves64]

My renewal stayed the same as last year. Section 21 row DD also 27 row AA.
Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

[BisonTeacher]

Go to the page that shows your points. Click seating request. next page click add new seating request.

Called and confirmed. This link is only for current season ticket holders who are looking to add seats or move seats.

[loudsilverado]

Thinking of renewing my tickets and selling them as a package deal.

[bisonfanette]

Called and confirmed. This link is only for current season ticket holders who are looking to add seats or move seats.

:) Makes sense!

[bisonaudit]

Looks like Team Makers membership count is up about 7% while they raised about 3% more in 2014 than 2013. Numbers are a little SWAG-y because the 990 hasn't been filed for 2014 so I'm just using the press release for that information.

That would be the smallest % increase and smallest increase in terms of dollars since 2010, but things have been fairly insane during that period and the membership growth strikes me as a healthy number even though I don't have any numbers from prior years to compare it with.

http://www.gobison.com/news/2015/2/27/ATH_0227155931.aspx

[VanClubPres]

And if we are ever 3-8 again, that will be the opportune time to strike. It is when we got our extra tickets, which paid off because now we have kids. I couldn't give them away during those seasons.

[Bison Loaf]

And if we are ever 3-8 again............

Despite all the pleading, begging, wishing and crying on the rest of the fan boards of the FCS, I wouldn't hold my breath on that for the foreseeable future. :biggrin:

[NorthernBison]

Small increase here. Team Makers donation stayed at $200 per seat and season ticket went from $185 to $205 per seat. 4% overall.

Don't tell anybody but that's a deal.

[wtffootballfan]

I have a question... How many tickets does NDSU give away for free to politicians and certain business owners?

[loudsilverado]

TM $950, Tix $410 = $1370 total.

[Bison 14]

I have a question... How many tickets does NDSU give away for free to politicians and certain business owners?

This business owner pays full price. Not gonna bore you with all the details but tickets now cost $1230 plus TM pledge. Good seats and all but they are getting awful expensive. I remember when Simmers came begging to sell seats. Think the boys are going a little nuts right now. Wait until cost of attendance kicks in.

[unbison]

This business owner pays full price. Not gonna bore you with all the details but tickets now cost $1230 plus TM pledge. Good seats and all but they are getting awful expensive. I remember when Simmers came begging to sell seats. Think the boys are going a little nuts right now. Wait until cost of attendance kicks in.

1230 how many seats?

[wtffootballfan]

This business owner pays full price. Not gonna bore you with all the details but tickets now cost $1230 plus TM pledge. Good seats and all but they are getting awful expensive. I remember when Simmers came begging to sell seats. Think the boys are going a little nuts right now. Wait until cost of attendance kicks in.

I know a hotel owner that received free tickets last year for him and his family for at least 2 games. I also know that the mayor of Bismarck and his family received free tickets for all 6 home games. A classmate of mine received free tickets for at least 2 games for his family. I would consider his occupation falling under the political realm. I asked all of these people and they said they got the tickets from NDSU. The mayor of Bismarck tickets looked to be very good tickets(like 45 yardline close to front tickets).

[17>1]

I know a hotel owner that received free tickets last year for him and his family for at least 2 games. I also know that the mayor of Bismarck and his family received free tickets for all 6 home games. A classmate of mine received free tickets for at least 2 games for his family. I would consider his occupation falling under the political realm. I asked all of these people and they said they got the tickets from NDSU. The mayor of Bismarck tickets looked to be very good tickets(like 45 yardline close to front tickets).

Hit up the mayor of Bismarck and see if he can get me tickets to the Montana game/slight shade of purple.

No drift intended, I just haven't checked my mail for days.

Oh, and I got my BI from Hornbachers last week some time.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I know a hotel owner that received free tickets last year for him and his family for at least 2 games. I also know that the mayor of Bismarck and his family received free tickets for all 6 home games. A classmate of mine received free tickets for at least 2 games for his family. I would consider his occupation falling under the political realm. I asked all of these people and they said they got the tickets from NDSU. The mayor of Bismarck tickets looked to be very good tickets(like 45 yardline close to front tickets).

And your point is??????

[17>1]

And your point is??????

I think his point is pretty obvious, he knows people that got free tickets for NDSU football games, and good ones at that.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I think his point is pretty obvious, he knows people that got free tickets for NDSU football games, and good ones at that.

and??????

10 char

[17>1]

and??????

10 char

Haha, I was only being sort of serious, but I see you're being very serious about wanting an answer. I think somewhere in this thread someone asked something along the lines of people or organizations getting free tickets for football games. Pretty sure he was just throwing what he knew into that part of the conversation. If not, then I have no idea and I'll let you keep digging for a more accurate point to his story.

Edit: And I just scrolled back and found that he was the one that asked the initial question, haha.

[sambini]

Potential donors could get tickets?

[DIBISON]

I have a question... How many tickets does NDSU give away for free to politicians and certain business owners?
I assume that you mean individual game tickets. Every school and every sport gives away some free tickets for individual games.

[56BISON73]

I have a question... How many tickets does NDSU give away for free to politicians and certain business owners?

Why don't you call the ticket office? That information hasn't been made public.

[17>1]

Finally got around to checking my mail. Received my renewal form. Teammaker fee of $50. $155 per seat in the north endzone.

[bisonfanette]

IMO, the $25/seat TM fee makes me shake my head a bit.
I can spend that in 5 min. at McD's, & many ppl don't bat an eye to pay an extra $25. for cell phone bills/accessories.
I know, I know, maybe it's the "first step" in a process... & you can always "donate more" to TM.

[loudsilverado]

Personally, I think mine is a bit expensive. It would be nice to see some improvements in the FFD if we aren't building a new stadium, get those monitors in, make sure the sound system works, etc...

[GRAFTONBISON]

Finally got around to checking my mail. Received my renewal form. Teammaker fee of $50. $155 per seat in the north endzone.

Anybody know if the $50 teammaker level will receive the same benefits as the minimum $100 level receives? At least my understanding was that $100 was the minimum donation to receive BI, etc?

[tjamz]

Personally, I think mine is a bit expensive. It would be nice to see some improvements in the FFD if we aren't building a new stadium, get those monitors in, make sure the sound system works, etc...

IIRC none of the TM money goes to the FFD since the FFD is owned by the city they are the ones that would have to invest the money for something like that.

If you think your situation is expensive, consider mine: I pay $205/seat + $100 TM donation. Not bad, but the $100 TM donation goes to a group and doesn't help my personal TM points situation one bit AND I don't get to write it off on my taxes (it's a friend's group so I am perfectly ok with this, not complaining). Last year I started donating above and beyond that. I started with a $100 donation to get going and then had both my wifes and my company match the donation.

I'm not complaining for a couple of reasons:

1. I enjoy the product that NDSU has delivered
2. Even though I am not an NDSU alum I like giving back to deserving organizations
3. IF NDSU is ever going to move up (when it makes sense..... not necessarily now) to FBS it is going to take donations from guys like me to do so. The $100 to $500/year individuals. Heck, even to remain competitive at FCS levels it requires the small donors to be involved with FCOA and whatnot.
4. I feel invested in the program. My dividends have been watching exceptional football, basketball, wrestling, track, etc... programs develop at NDSU.

I hope that helps some of the "What's in it for me to be a TM" people decide if they should join or not.

[loudsilverado]

I just think it's expensive because i feel we are stagnant, no talks of moving up, no talks of a new stadium, no real talks of stadium remodel, etc...etc....

[tjamz]

I just think it's expensive because i feel we are stagnant, no talks of moving up, no talks of a new stadium, no real talks of stadium remodel, etc...etc....

Did lakes hack your account?

[scottietohottie]

I got a discount on my seat becasue I stand on defense.

[StL Bison Fan]

I got a discount on my seat becasue I stand on defense.

If they took the seats out in section 8, maybe I could get my 2 extra tickets.

[Bisonator98]

I just think it's expensive because i feel we are stagnant, no talks of moving up, no talks of a new stadium, no real talks of stadium remodel, etc...etc....

It'll take a hell of a lot more then TM dues or ST sales to pay for those. I may be wrong but all TM and ST money is basically funding scholarships and coaching salaries. Those things you mentioned require large donors, we're talking millions.

[BisonNation11]

I put in my request for Cookie's two seats since she won't be renewing

[Vet70]

I got a discount on my seat becasue I stand on defense.

Would you get an extra discount if you stand and yell?

[bisonfanette]

I put in my request for Cookie's two seats since she won't be renewing

:judges: ! ! ! ! !

[Mr Meaty]

I have a question on the gobison sight under a personal ticket account. You have a Priority Points and then your Rank. A person's rank is ____ oot of 53835. I know the 53835 number changes but really how many of that number at actually active? I would assume when I renew my tickets, that act alone will not change that number to 53836. So the number only changes when someone new receives points? Also letter winners for NDSU get 100 points for that alone. I am under a 100 points in my account but my ranking number seems high considering all the letter winners from the past that should be in front of me and all the larger donors. I expect to be at 100 or more points in about 2 years based on current donations and tickets and all that stuff. someone clarify this for me?

[56BISON73]

I have a question on the gobison sight under a personal ticket account. You have a Priority Points and then your Rank. A person's rank is ____ oot of 53835. I know the 53835 number changes but really how many of that number at actually active? I would assume when I renew my tickets, that act alone will not change that number to 53836. So the number only changes when someone new receives points? Also letter winners for NDSU get 100 points for that alone. I am under a 100 points in my account but my ranking number seems high considering all the letter winners from the past that should be in front of me and all the larger donors. I expect to be at 100 or more points in about 2 years based on current donations and tickets and all that stuff. someone clarify this for me?

Letter winners dont get the points until they join TM.

[T-Funk]

I have a question on the gobison sight under a personal ticket account. You have a Priority Points and then your Rank. A person's rank is ____ oot of 53835. I know the 53835 number changes but really how many of that number at actually active? I would assume when I renew my tickets, that act alone will not change that number to 53836. So the number only changes when someone new receives points? Also letter winners for NDSU get 100 points for that alone. I am under a 100 points in my account but my ranking number seems high considering all the letter winners from the past that should be in front of me and all the larger donors. I expect to be at 100 or more points in about 2 years based on current donations and tickets and all that stuff. someone clarify this for me?

I believe I've heard Josh H. at the ticket office say the number of active TM accounts is in the 2500-3000 range.

The 50000+ number is likely the number of people who have a login on the gobison.com site. So basically anybody who has ever bought tickets on gobison.com.

[Mr Meaty]

Ok thank you both for the info. Just was wondering.

[1998braves64]

Due to the increased interest in bison football I've gone from being around 1750 with very few points to 2050 or somewhere in that vicinity with nearly 50 points. Due to being laid off in 2009 finances have been a little tight. Hoping with my new promotion and raise that went with it I can loosen my thumb and forefinger on my penny now! Try to move myself back up.

Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

[tjbison]

I just think it's expensive because i feel we are stagnant, no talks of moving up, no talks of a new stadium, no real talks of stadium remodel, etc...etc....


where have you been?

they doing a total redo of the sound, video and scoreboard system which has begun BTW its a 2 yr project as they are updating to all HD so the cables needed tobe re run, Miles of them

they have engineering working on any possible ways to expand, one hold up on this is where they want to build the convention center.

I don't get how people can complain the dome hasn't done anything, it was just a few short years ago we tailgates in the mud, watched the team play on concrete etc....they are doing the best they can to keep upgrades

[gumby013]

I think everyone needs to request how many tickets they actually want, so current demand can be more accurately gauged.

EDIT: I think a lot of people are not doing this, since they know they won't be getting any extras.

[KTF]

ok so after hearing all the complaints about those season ticket holders that are non-teammakers, I finally donated to TeamMakers for the first time this year. Quick question, I live roughly 2.5 hours into MN from Fargo... Do they ever hold teammaker meetings outside of Fargo?

[Mr Meaty]

ok so after hearing all the complaints about those season ticket holders that are non-teammakers, I finally donated to TeamMakers for the first time this year. Quick question, I live roughly 2.5 hours into MN from Fargo... Do they ever hold teammaker meetings outside of Fargo?

rarely if at all.

[Bison bison]

It'll take a hell of a lot more then TM dues or ST sales to pay for those. I may be wrong but all TM and ST money is basically funding scholarships and coaching salaries. And a secret stash of m&m's in Pat Simmers office. Those things you mentioned require large donors, we're talking millions.






modified. too factual for Bisonville.

[A1pigskin]

I paid for my tickets yesterday.

[KSBisonFan]

Letter winners dont get the points until they join TM.

Any idea what percentage of letter winners are TM's? I'd assume this has to be a high %.

[56BISON73]

Any idea what percentage of letter winners are TM's? I'd assume this has to be a high %.

Lower than you would think. But many former athletes move away after school.

[bisonfanette]

Lower than you would think. But many former athletes move away after school.

Sure... but I still wish they would be TM's, like a few we know! To each their own I guess.

[Bison03]

Any idea what percentage of letter winners are TM's? I'd assume this has to be a high %.

Former NDSU athletes automatically have 100 priority when their career at NDSU is over. I would hope there is a lot since their ability to get tickets is better then a big majority of current teammakers.

[56BISON73]

Former NDSU athletes automatically have 100 priority when their career at NDSU is over. I would hope there is a lot since their ability to get tickets is better then a big majority of current teammakers.

Letter winners get 100 points if they join TM.

[gumby013]

The seating chart has finally been updated.

http://www.gobison.com/documents/2015/3/5/Football_Season_Ticket_Seating_Chart.pdf?tab=footb allseating

[Bison03]

The seating chart has finally been updated.

http://www.gobison.com/documents/2015/3/5/Football_Season_Ticket_Seating_Chart.pdf?tab=footb allseating

Are teammaker dues for endzone seats new this year? Don't remember that in the past. Im glad. Ween them in so that evebtually every season ticketholder will be teammakers and paying dues.

[StL Bison Fan]

Are teammaker dues for endzone seats new this year? Don't remember that in the past. Im glad. Ween them in so that evebtually every season ticketholder will be teammakers and paying dues.

Yes. Thru row n

[bisonfanette]

And why don't they put TM dues higher than row N?

(:hide: I would take section 13 & turn it into a reserve sideline section. Either all or 1/2 of that section.
Put all students in 6 or 6.5 sections. :hide: Just MO. I'll be quiet now.)

[56BISON73]

And why don't they put TM dues higher than row N?

(:hide: I would take section 13 & turn it into a reserve sideline section. Either all or 1/2 of that section.
Put all students in 6 or 6.5 sections. :hide: Just MO. I'll be quiet now.)

In time. Be patient.

[bisonfanette]

In time. Be patient.

:) I can do this!!!

[bisonaudit]

Not this student section stuff, again. They pay for those seats. Nothing can happen there without the ascent of the Student Senate.

[bisonaudit]

If you're in the lower portion of Reserved Sideline in Sections 6, 22, 30, or 31 or Reserved End Zone (the seats with the new $25 TM contribution) your price per seat increased 24% and 33%, respectively. Even above the TM line in those sections, prices increased more than anywhere else in the building (with the possible exception of scholarship section seats for long-time ticket holders which remains opaque), 11% and 15%, respectively.

Other price points increased between 3% and 8%.

Apparently everyone wants into the building but no one wants to sit in the nose bleeds on the 50.

[tony]

Apparently everyone wants into the building but no one wants to sit in the nose bleeds on the 50.

Those would be great seats! I'll take as many of them as they'll allow!

[56BISON73]

Are teammaker dues for endzone seats new this year? Don't remember that in the past. Im glad. Ween them in so that evebtually every season ticketholder will be teammakers and paying dues.

Do you not read any posts? Its been talked about since last year.:biggrin:

[StL Bison Fan]

Those would be great seats! I'll take as many of them as they'll allow!

Those are tickets they use for special events. The tree bowl peeps sit there during that game.

[unbison]

25 dollar team maker dues that has to be a joke

[56BISON73]

25 dollar team maker dues that has to be a joke

They are easing them in to it bit by bit. 50.00 would have been a shock to those who havent paid in the past.------Just passing on what I heard.:biggrin:

[MNLonghorn10]

Im in row T. 0 fees from me

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Deal-With-It-Meme-Gif.gif

[bisonaudit]

Those would be great seats! I'll take as many of them as they'll allow!

I'm just saying the price only went up 3% and it only went up 4% next door in the tops of sections 2, 17, 19 and 34. Those were the smallest increases except in the scholarship sections but we know that data isn't any good because most of the people sitting there aren't paying the published price.

In a rational universe, which I'm willing to concede we may not be in, this would suggest that demand at the relative price may be lower for those seats than the price setters had anticipated. Perhaps a lot of people want to move over but they're less willing to move up in order to do so?

Nosebleed on the 50 were $75 more than the next price point (one section over rows U-Z). Now the spread is down to $50.

[bisonaudit]

They are easing them in to it bit by bit. 50.00 would have been a shock to those who havent paid in the past.------Just passing on what I heard.:biggrin:

Makes sense to me. If they'd have tacked $50 onto the low end zone seats it would have been over a 50% jump all in one go.

[Bison Loaf]

25 dollar team maker dues that has to be a joke

I happen to agree with you. I think any reserved (for the season) seat in the Fargo Dome is worth at least $100 in TM fees.

I also trust this will be implemented in due time. I was thinking it would have been implemented a little more aggressively this season at the bottom-end giving levels, but ultimately I have no real problem with how they've ramped up so far. As I've said before, I think demand - once generated - has to be managed carefully so it continues to feed upon, and regenerate, itself.

[unbison]

They are easing them in to it bit by bit. 50.00 would have been a shock to those who havent paid in the past.------Just passing on what I heard.:biggrin:

It's sad that is all that the people selling the program feel it's worth

[Bison03]

My preditction is that withing 1-3 years, the lower half of the endzone sections will be at a minimum of $50 and the upper at $25. If people complain about it, there are plenty of people on a wating list behind them willing to pay the dues to get tickets.

[bisonaudit]

It's sad that is all that the people selling the program feel it's worth

I'm happy to see that you don't need to know somebody for them treat your wallet with kid gloves.

[Tatanka]

My preditction is that withing 1-3 years, the lower half of the endzone sections will be at a minimum of $50 and the upper at $25. If people complain about it, there are plenty of people on a wating list behind them willing to pay the dues to get tickets.

Bingo! I have absolutely no problem with the fee--my annual TM donation already more than covers this for the season tickets I have. I also have no problem easing people into it, as many of the folks with season tickets in the affected area have been season ticket holders in those areas since they were made to be season tickets and not GA--well before there was a stampede to get tickets. There's something to be said for rewarding longevity in addition to donations.

[Bison Loaf]

My preditction is that withing 1-3 years, the lower half of the endzone sections will be at a minimum of $50 and the upper at $25. If people complain about it, there are plenty of people on a wating list behind them willing to pay the dues to get tickets.

I think your prediction is too low. Hell, I'd take 2 seats in the lower half of the end zone for a $100 TM fee per seat- this very day, if they were offered. And I agree that there are many that would do likewise. So in that sense, unbison is spot on that they are being undervalued - and undervalued, I think, by some good bit.

[Tatanka]

I think your prediction is too low. Hell, I'd take 2 seats in the lower half of the end zone for a $100 TM fee per seat- this very day, if they were offered. And I agree that there are many that would do likewise. So in that sense, unbison is spot on that they are being undervalued - and undervalued, I think, by some good bit.

Agree with this as well.

[gumby013]

I think your prediction is too low. Hell, I'd take 2 seats in the lower half of the end zone for a $100 TM fee per seat- this very day, if they were offered. And I agree that there are many that would do likewise. So in that sense, unbison is spot on that they are being undervalued - and undervalued, I think, by some good bit.

Any low row seat should be at least that much.

[BisonNation11]

People need to take into account that much of the end zone seats are occupied by families with young children. In order to continue growing the brand, this is the next generation to help do so. Force their families out the door because you're too greedy and your brand can suffer. I think this is an appropriate starting point and if demand sees fit in the future, then by all means increase the price.

[Bison Loaf]

People need to take into account that much of the end zone seats are occupied by families with young children. In order to continue growing the brand, this is the next generation to help do so. Force their families out the door because you're too greedy and your brand can suffer. I think this is an appropriate starting point and if demand sees fit in the future, then by all means increase the price.

While I agree with you to a certain point, not all families with young children are necessarily "poor". $100 per seat in the lower half is not outrageous or onerous, IMO.

[scottietohottie]

Will if it makes you guys feel any better I sit in the north endzone and pay more then is required.

[Bison Loaf]

Will if it makes you guys feel any better I sit in the north endzone and pay more then is required.

Weirdly, yes, that DOES make me feel better………….and we also now know how you got your Bison Illustrated so early (for you) this year! :)

[bisonfanette]

Will if it makes you guys feel any better I sit in the north endzone and pay more then is required.

As do we in the south! Season Ticket holder for 9+ yrs (went thru the bad yrs) & honestly felt guilty not paying TM dues a few yrs ago.

[56BISON73]

It's sad that is all that the people selling the program feel it's worth

They know what its worth. It has more to do with the ND fan mentality and their wallets.
If you start treating your fans as strictly customers instead of fans they will then act like customers and start justifying and monetizing TM dues and tickets. Michigan did that with their last AD and it turned in to a disaster.

[Gully]

I really think they need to reseat the dome......start over. It's such a mess right now. I would pay more to get my 2 pairs of seats together, but there is no way to do that because everything is sold.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I really think they need to reseat the dome......start over. It's such a mess right now. I would pay more to get my 2 pairs of seats together, but there is no way to do that because everything is sold.


No no no no no, we have really enjoyed watching the games with all people around us. That is the major perks of having had season tickets for years. We are now good friends with lots and lots of people around us. As my wife would say, We like our neighborhood leave it the hell alone. Some people would like it but the day they reseat is the day they piss us off.

[Gully]

No no no no no, we have really enjoyed watching the games with all people around us. That is the major perks of having had season tickets for years. We are now good friends with lots and lots of people around us. As my wife would say, We like our neighborhood leave it the hell alone. Some people would like it but the day they reseat is the day they piss us off.

I've sat with the same people for years as well and I understand what you're saying. I tailgate with them all anyway though so I see plenty of them.

I'm sure it's going to happen at some point though, I would think it would have to happen if some of these expansion plans move forward.

[unbison]

They know what its worth. It has more to do with the ND fan mentality and their wallets.
If you start treating your fans as strictly customers instead of fans they will then act like customers and start justifying and monetizing TM dues and tickets. Michigan did that with their last AD and it turned in to a disaster.
What I'm suggesting and what Michigan did are different.... Those seats are worth 100 dollar donation
To truly grow the brand new blood is needed.... We need younger leadership in team makers ...current leader has no connection with younger people which is who the future of teammakers is

[tjamz]

What I'm suggesting and what Michigan did are different.... Those seats are worth 100 dollar donation
To truly grow the brand new blood is needed.... We need younger leadership in team makers ...current leader has no connection with younger people which is who the future of teammakers is

I tend to agree, but at the same time I get where TM is trying to phase people into donating to get seats. For a family of 5 (for example) justifying an additional 500/year is a tough sell sometimes. So I get not wanting to chase people away as well.

I'm fairly confident that the $25 will be used to gauge interest. If too many fall off and not enough move in to take the seats I doubt we'll see increases in the next few years. On the other hand if there is minimal churn and still great demand I'd expect that $50 will be the next jump.

[unbison]

I tend to agree, but at the same time I get where TM is trying to phase people into donating to get seats. For a family of 5 (for example) justifying an additional 500/year is a tough sell sometimes. So I get not wanting to chase people away as well.

I'm fairly confident that the $25 will be used to gauge interest. If too many fall off and not enough move in to take the seats I doubt we'll see increases in the next few years. On the other hand if there is minimal churn and still great demand I'd expect that $50 will be the next jump.

No one will fall off at 25 .... It's a disgrace it's part of the problem.... The problem of growing the brand ... 500 would what cut into people's tailgating tailgating seems to become more important then the team or the game .... That's the impression I get from walking through the tailgate lot and looking at the donors list....

[Bisonfaithful]

I really think they need to reseat the dome......start over. It's such a mess right now. I would pay more to get my 2 pairs of seats together, but there is no way to do that because everything is sold.

Reseat? because bison football is the bomb now, and if you can pay more then enjoy someone else's seats that for whatever reason can't afford the new popularity pricing scheme? I say those of us that stuck with our season tickets during the lean years when team makers were begging people to fill the dome should be recognized, not penalized for their socioeconomic place. But money talks and loyalty may not when your the king of FCS.
I have paid all the ticket increases and now pay my SLF to team makers to keep my seats, reseating would not go over well.

[Bison Loaf]

I really think they need to reseat the dome......start over. It's such a mess right now. I would pay more to get my 2 pairs of seats together, but there is no way to do that because everything is sold.

This is a bad idea (but I admire your guts for bringing it up :)). Reseating happened when we moved into the Fargo Dome and it was a complete disaster. Of course, at that time, there were no priority points, so those that had been supporting the program for years - many of those years prior to '65 when the program was truly struggling - got no credit what-so-ever for their prior support.

My understanding is that we lost a bunch of TM's and supporters then and it took a long, long time to catch back up……..another reason, IMO, that the 90's and early 00's were a "struggle" (relatively) for the program.

[unbison]

It's the right time!


I've sat with the same people for years as well and I understand what you're saying. I tailgate with them all anyway though so I see plenty of them.

I'm sure it's going to happen at some point though, I would think it would have to happen if some of these expansion plans move forward.

[bisonaudit]

This is a bad idea (but I admire your guts for bringing it up :)). Reseating happened when we moved into the Fargo Dome and it was a complete disaster. Of course, at that time, there were no priority points, so those that had been supporting the program for years - many of those years prior to '65 when the program was truly struggling - got no credit what-so-ever for their prior support.

My understanding is that we lost a bunch of TM's and supporters then and it took a long, long time to catch back up……..another reason, IMO, that the 90's and early 00's were a "struggle" (relatively) for the program.

why, because the wrong people were fully funding the program?

[Bison Loaf]

why, because the wrong people were fully funding the program?

So I take it you are against the priority point system?

[bisonaudit]

So I take it you are against the priority point system?

i didn't say that. My only point was that the identity of the people in the seats has no impact on the performance on the field.

[Bison Loaf]

i didn't say that. My only point was that the identity of the people in the seats has no impact on the performance on the field.

Nor did I say that "the wrong people were fully funding the program".

[CAS4127]

Got my renewal. I have no idea if cost went up for seats-->how do I tell?

It shows $205 for tickets x 4 as line item and then my $2500 TM donation as another line item. Do tickets include TM donation amount for seats too?


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[loudsilverado]

Got my renewal. I have no idea if cost went up for seats-->how do I tell?

It shows $205 for tickets x 4 as line item and then my $2500 TM donation as another line item. Do tickets include TM donation amount for seats too?


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You must still be on beach/Corona time....

[CAS4127]

You must still be on beach/Corona time....

Nope, home now.


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[56BISON73]

Got my renewal. I have no idea if cost went up for seats-->how do I tell?

It shows $205 for tickets x 4 as line item and then my $2500 TM donation as another line item. Do tickets include TM donation amount for seats too?


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Tickets were 185.00 last year. If you donate 2500.00 you wont see the difference in you seat donation because you are donating more than what those seats call for. My seat donation went up 25.00 each I think.

[bisonfanette]

Mine was $155. x __# of seats (which included the $25/seat dues) Plus $2500. TM donation.
(I kind of thought the $25./seat/dues could be subtacted from the TM donation? Maybe I should have asked?)

[56BISON73]

What I'm suggesting and what Michigan did are different.... Those seats are worth 100 dollar donation
To truly grow the brand new blood is needed.... We need younger leadership in team makers ...current leader has no connection with younger people which is who the future of teammakers is

Have you sat down with TM and asked what there vision is and their short term plans are for the future? Have you talked to them about getting younger people in TM? If you haven't how can you say TM needs new blood if you don't know what they are doing and what the process is?

[CAS4127]

Tickets were 185.00 last year. If you donate 2500.00 you wont see the difference in you seat donation because you are donating more than what those seats call for. My seat donation went up 25.00 each I think.

So my seats went up $20 per or $3.33 per game? Or am I missing something ... again?!?!

I must be paying TM dues for seats, plus an additional $2500 in TM dues is what I'm thinking. Otherwise, the $$ aren't even for seats. I'm thinking it's $180 + $25 TM for seats plus $2500 in additional TM dues.


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[bisonaudit]

The seating chart has finally been updated.

http://www.gobison.com/documents/2015/3/5/Football_Season_Ticket_Seating_Chart.pdf?tab=footb allseating


So my seats went up $20 per or $3.33 per game? Or am I missing something ... again?!?!

I must be paying TM dues for seats, plus an additional $2500 in TM dues is what I'm thinking. Otherwise, the $$ aren't even for seats. I'm thinking it's $180 + $25 TM for seats plus $2500 in additional TM dues.


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check out the chart. Maybe that will clarify.

[56BISON73]

So my seats went up $20 per or $3.33 per game? Or am I missing something ... again?!?!

I must be paying TM dues for seats, plus an additional $2500 in TM dues is what I'm thinking. Otherwise, the $$ aren't even for seats. I'm thinking it's $180 + $25 TM for seats plus $2500 in additional TM dues.


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What section and row are you in? How many seats?

[scottietohottie]

The letters for tickets are kind of confusing I would suggest logging on to gobison account it breaks it down better on my account anyways.

[bisonfanette]

I must be paying TM dues for seats, plus an additional $2500 in TM dues is what I'm thinking.
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Couldn't we (CAS & I) have taken the TM dues x the # of seats, and subtacted that from our donation of $2500. & still have a $2500. TM donation?

[56BISON73]

Couldn't we (CAS & I) have taken the TM dues x the # of seats, and subtacted that from our donation of $2500. & still have a $2500. TM donation?

Yes.........

[bisonfanette]

Yes.........

Kinda thought so. Farm commodity prices are L...O...W... so I may see if Mr. Simmers can do a slight refund:)
(Need beer $ for tailgating you know!)

[CAS4127]

check out the chart. Maybe that will clarify.

There we go. Basically, when you contribute more to TMs than required for seats, they back it out for you.

So, what Bfannette posted above is what is going on. $205 for each seat, which does not include TM dues for those seats, and then whatever TM donation you are making, provided it is greater than what TM dues would be for your seat(s)/ticket(s). The chart spells it out for you.

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[56BISON73]

Kinda thought so. Farm commodity prices are L...O...W... so I may see if Mr. Simmers can do a slight refund:)
(Need beer $ for tailgating you know!)

If you take money back then you wont have a 2500.00 donation. You donate 2500.00. All you are doing is paying more than what the seats TM dues actually costs.

[bisonfanette]

Ugg... no beer $. Such a problem...

[Bison 14]

Tickets were 185.00 last year. If you donate 2500.00 you wont see the difference in you seat donation because you are donating more than what those seats call for. My seat donation went up 25.00 each I think.

You are full of shit. I was hit for $1230 and we are in the circle of champions

[perthbison]

Ugg... no beer $. Such a problem...maybe you'll have to quit drinking Lowenbreau and go back to Milwaukee's Best:biggrin:

[56BISON73]

You are full of shit. I was hit for $1230 and we are in the circle of champions

How many seats and where are they located?

[Bison 14]

WTF does it matter where my seats are? I am telling you what happened and how much extra they expect. Tickets were included in our scholarship prior to this year. Just plain pushing as hard as they can. Been a Bison since 1970 BTW

[56BISON73]

You are full of shit. I was hit for $1230 and we are in the circle of champions


Your situation has nothing to do with the post I made now does it. Two different scenarios.

[Bison 14]

Your situation has nothing to do with the post I made now does it. Two different scenarios.

If I misinterpreted your post I apologize. Frustrated at what I perceive as greed. I will only pay so much and apparently have hit the boiling point.

[GOB1SON]

If I misinterpreted your post I apologize. Frustrated at what I perceive as greed. I will only pay so much and apparently have hit the boiling point.

Our Circle went up 2800 but we have 14 seats. We knew this was coming, I guess in part, because we talk to the folks regularly.

Truth be told, our Circle hasn't gone up in about 10 years, so it wasn't big surprise. In fact we have been wondering for about 5 years when we would get a bump.

[56BISON73]

If I misinterpreted your post I apologize. Frustrated at what I perceive as greed. I will only pay so much and apparently have hit the boiling point.

No problem. They have raised mine every year as well. Started out about 350-400 a seat and now its 750.00 not including tickets. I feel your pain...:biggrin:

[bisonaudit]

WTF does it matter where my seats are? I am telling you what happened and how much extra they expect. Tickets were included in our scholarship prior to this year. Just plain pushing as hard as they can. Been a Bison since 1970 BTW

seat at the 30 or better in the first 20 rows that you actually have to pay for now? #uptownproblems

[Bison 14]

seat at the 30 or better in the first 20 rows that you actually have to pay for now? #uptownproblems

Trust me we were paying for them every year and then some

[tjbison]

Trust me we were paying for them every year and then some


Are you upset they raised the TM fee all together or upset at the percentage of increase?

[tony]

Trust me we were paying for them every year and then some

Before getting too angry, you might want to call Team Makers and find out what the numbers on your invoice mean (if anything.)
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[Hammersmith]

Are you upset they raised the TM fee all together or upset at the percentage of increase?

The top-3 donation levels used to get comped tickets. It was supposed to be up to 4 tickets per donation. Starting this year, those donation levels need to pay for their tickets. Given the amount of "increase" the poster stated, I would say they had 6 seats in their group(1230 = 205 x 6). It's also been posted that the Circle of Champions donation level($11k) hasn't increased in quite a while. With tickets no longer comped, it will be interesting to see if they change how the scholarship-level donations work. Will they keep it as $11k for a block of seats, or switch to a per seat basis. If the poster is currently getting 6 seats for $11k(+ tickets), that could go to $16.5k(+ tickets). Given the "speed" at which TM has increased the grandfathered rates, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

[tony]

The top-3 donation levels used to get comped tickets. It was supposed to be up to 4 tickets per donation. Starting this year, those donation levels need to pay for their tickets. Given the amount of "increase" the poster stated, I would say they had 6 seats in their group(1230 = 205 x 6). It's also been posted that the Circle of Champions donation level($11k) hasn't increased in quite a while. With tickets no longer comped, it will be interesting to see if they change how the scholarship-level donations work. Will they keep it as $11k for a block of seats, or switch to a per seat basis. If the poster is currently getting 6 seats for $11k(+ tickets), that could go to $16.5k(+ tickets). Given the "speed" at which TM has increased the grandfathered rates, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Reduce the amount of their donation by $1230 or so and keep the seats?

That said, something will have to give because increases in TM seat level donations haven't been keeping up with tuition inflation for a long time. It was sustainable as long as revenues were increasing as new members joined, but that rush is over.

[MAKBison]

The top-3 donation levels used to get comped tickets. It was supposed to be up to 4 tickets per donation. Starting this year, those donation levels need to pay for their tickets. Given the amount of "increase" the poster stated, I would say they had 6 seats in their group(1230 = 205 x 6). It's also been posted that the Circle of Champions donation level($11k) hasn't increased in quite a while. With tickets no longer comped, it will be interesting to see if they change how the scholarship-level donations work. Will they keep it as $11k for a block of seats, or switch to a per seat basis. If the poster is currently getting 6 seats for $11k(+ tickets), that could go to $16.5k(+ tickets). Given the "speed" at which TM has increased the grandfathered rates, I wouldn't worry too much about it.


I asked PZ about it last year......told me that the CC comped tickets were going away. He indicated just too many folks want tickets and there are not enough to comp everyone.

[Bison 14]

Reduce the amount of their donation by $1230 or so and keep the seats?

That said, something will have to give because increases in TM seat level donations haven't been keeping up with tuition inflation for a long time. It was sustainable as long as revenues were increasing as new members joined, but that rush is over.

You are fairly close in your assumption. We started with 4 seats and added 2 a few years later. The kicker was a higher donation to TM. Think it is time to drop 2 seats and let someone else in on the fun.

[BattleBorn]

I assume existing season ticket holders will get a crack at more seats before putting them up for new folks. Is this correct? I'm happy to keep donating to TM, but obviously I hope I can get in on Tickets at some point. :)

[TNbison]

I assume existing season ticket holders will get a crack at more seats before putting them up for new folks. Is this correct? I'm happy to keep donating to TM, but obviously I hope I can get in on Tickets at some point. :)

I'm in the same boat. I do have a question about requesting season tickets though, I requested two under my team makers account for seating requests, which didn't require any credit card info. today I also requested to through the ticket portal where I did have to put in my credit card information. Does anyone know which route you're supposed to go, I never got a packet in the mail or anything. Although my priority points are pretty low, it's worth a shot

[BattleBorn]

The one with the credit card info is the way to go. Good luck to you!

[1998braves64]

Seems everyone here had some sort of increase in cost either donation or season tickets? Mine is exactly the same as last year ($775 total tickets and donation)? I'm section 21 Row DD (qty of 2) and Section 27 row AA (qty of 1) so have two seats with TM donation and one without. With the comp tickets going away may be a good year to request tickets as I do have 4 in my family now? Guess I should have been somewhat forward thinking but got the third one only when I had one kid.

[BisonTeacher]

My annual request/impending rejection has been submitted.

[Vet70]

My annual request/impending rejection has been submitted.

By some fluke I got one added two seasons ago for a family member, and man do I feel lucky.

[bisonfanette]

I've been approached if I would sell my seats

Ya, probably best not to do that... might not end well.

[StL Bison Fan]

My annual request/impending rejection has been submitted.

Price increase?

[BisonTeacher]

Price increase?

$155-205 were the options given

[Hail bison]

Ya, probably best not to do that... might not end well.

Usually some freeloader trying to get seats with your hard earned points

[IBleedYellow]

You are fairly close in your assumption. We started with 4 seats and added 2 a few years later. The kicker was a higher donation to TM. Think it is time to drop 2 seats and let someone else in on the fun.

Damn I'd take those in a heartbeat...

[56BISON73]

Usually some freeloader trying to get seats with your hard earned points

Thank goodness that single game tickets will now also be based on priority points.

[aces1180]

Thank goodness that single game tickets will now also be based on priority points.

Is this legit? There will be a lot of butthurt (not from me, but from the "bandwagoners).

[bisonaudit]

Thank goodness that single game tickets will now also be based on priority points.

How is that going to work?

[Bison"FANatic"]

Thank goodness that single game tickets will now also be based on priority points.
There Ya go. Teammakers wants a perception of a exclusive club just lock our 90% of Fargo from even being able to maybe go to one game. Bad move very bad move. Before they do that one would think they would at least require every season ticket to be teamakers. Sit back and watch boys and girls here comes the greed after the success.

[Tatanka]

There Ya go. Teammakers wants a perception of a exclusive club just lock our 90% of Fargo from even being able to maybe go to one game. Bad move very bad move. Before they do that one would think they would at least require every season ticket to be teamakers. Sit back and watch boys and girls here comes the greed after the success.


Right. Ok. So how would you do it, exactly?

[Trumpster]

There Ya go. Teammakers wants a perception of a exclusive club just lock our 90% of Fargo from even being able to maybe go to one game. Bad move very bad move. Before they do that one would think they would at least require every season ticket to be teamakers. Sit back and watch boys and girls here comes the greed after the success.

Just so we're clear, you'd rather it be basically a lottery? Those of us who can't get season tickets get nothing for teammakers?

[Bison"FANatic"]

Right. Ok. So how would you do it, exactly?
You always leave some seats for the regular Joe to have a chance at. It has worked well for the last 5 years. Concentrate on your season ticket holders you have now to all be teammakers. Every new grad coming out is going to say screw it why give when there are people that have been giving for years and I won't catch them. That person that graduated in December should at least have a shot at tickets. Doing this is how you alienate a whole generation of new grads.

[Bison"FANatic"]

Just so we're clear, you'd rather it be basically a lottery? Those of us who can't get season tickets get nothing for teammakers?
There are very few percentage of tickets that are single game. So Ya sorry your late to the game but there should always be some available by luck of getting through on phone or on gobison or standing in line. You want Fargo to keep supporting NDSU you don't turn it into a 100% exclusive club. There always has to be the perception of the chance at tickets.

[56BISON73]

How is that going to work?

I dont know the details. I dont know if ALL of the single game tickets will be handled via priority points or not.
How it would work isnt all that difficult. You put in your request. When all the requests are in those with the most post points get there requests filled.
Remember this is for those who DONT have season tickets.

[BisonFan02]

There are very few percentage of tickets that are single game. So Ya sorry your late to the game but there should always be some available by luck of getting through on phone or on gobison or standing in line. You want Fargo to keep supporting NDSU you don't turn it into a 100% exclusive club. There always has to be the perception of the chance at tickets.

Then it is time for Fargo to grow a sack and build a bigger facility... Strike while the iron is hot right?

[Bison 14]

[QUOTE=IBleedYellow;990532]Damn I'd take those in a heartbeat...[/QUOTE
What do you suppose a pair of lower level seats in Sec 18 would sell for on the street. This would include playoff and Frisco tickets if we advance. I have enough priority points to virtually guarantee tickets.

[unbison]

I'll be honest they need to reseat the entire dome based on priority points

[tjbison]

I'll be honest they need to reseat the entire dome based on priority points

yes and no, why should somone who just got going get better seats than someone who has had tickets for a longtime?

I doubt there are many cases like this but I know a guy who was proactive and bought season tickets in 2006 because he said he could see the writing on the wall, couldn't afford to add tm fees so was in a non tm section, started donations but still has very few points, some people since 2011 have just now come in and passed him so he should get moved because of his thinking ahead?

[NorthernBison]

I'll be honest they need to reseat the entire dome based on priority points
If you look at how the seating chart has been changing, they are doing something similar to that by adjusting the TM donations based on lines that didn't exist a couple years ago. Every Season Ticket should include a TM donation. Period.

[unbison]

If you look at how the seating chart has been changing, they are doing something similar to that by adjusting the TM donations based on lines that didn't exist a couple years ago. Every Season Ticket should include a TM donation. Period.
Yes! 25 dollars a seat does not qualify Asa tea maker dues

[NorthernBison]

Yes! 25 dollars a seat does not qualify Asa tea maker dues
Agreed. I expect that to change.

[Tatanka]

Agreed. I expect that to change.


Also agree, and I also expect that to change.

[unbison]

You always leave some seats for the regular Joe to have a chance at. It has worked well for the last 5 years. Concentrate on your season ticket holders you have now to all be teammakers. Every new grad coming out is going to say screw it why give when there are people that have been giving for years and I won't catch them. That person that graduated in December should at least have a shot at tickets. Doing this is how you alienate a whole generation of new grads.
How about every new donor that can't get themselves into the building.....

[tjamz]

Just so we're clear, you'd rather it be basically a lottery? Those of us who can't get season tickets get nothing for teammakers?

Full disclosure: I myself do not have season tickets through my own TM account.... but hear me out here on MY idea for a lottery system.

Anyone who submits a ticket request (TR) gets at least one entry into the lottery pool for up to 5 tickets (assuming typical family of 2 parents and 3 kids). If you have points already (but no tickets) you get that one entry plus one extra entry for every point you have up to let's say 50 points. If you are a TM with season tickets already you only get one entry... basically putting you in the same category as a non-TM looking for tickets. Each year these tickets go back on the market and the lottery starts over again.

Why does this method work? Because it still rewards larger donors without tickets already while encouraging new TM's to donate more to get a higher point total to increase their odds of getting tickets. It doesn't guarantee anyone any tickets of course but the odds will be better if you donate more. This could be used as a catalyst for getting new TM's and at the same time encouraging larger donations from others.

[scottietohottie]

I just have trouble believing that more season ticket holders aren't joining tm. The north endzone seems to be full of young alumni why are they not joining on their own?

[bisonaudit]

I gave Bison 14 a hard time a little earlier about his #uptownproblems. But the reality is the entire program has an uptown problem right now. If the renewal rate on season tickets weren't 99.44% a lot of these issues would resolve themselves.

[gumby013]

I gave Bison 14 a hard time a little earlier about his #uptownproblems. But the reality is the entire program has an uptown problem right now. If the renewal rate a season tickets weren't 99.44% a lot of these issues would resolve themselves.

I like Ivory Soap too.

[Bison bison]

Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But I like an orgy, once in a while.

Home, 99 44/100% Sweet Home
by Ogden Nash

[NorthernBison]

I just have trouble believing that more season ticket holders aren't joining tm. The north endzone seems to be full of young alumni why are they not joining on their own?
Most people won't write a bigger check unless it is required or they see something extra in it for them.