Great Article about former Wrestler.

[Christopher Moen]

Good article about Vettel from the In-Forum: http://www.inforum.com/news/3684081-nonstop-joel-vettel-sometimes-i-wonder-if-hes-two-places-one-time

[imabison]

Well a bit of shock but no one knows what happened!!

Joel Vettel resigned as head of Fargo Parks.

https://www.inforum.com/news/government-and-politics/2987365-Joel-Vettel-issues-statement-on-departure-from-Fargo-Park-District-interim-director-named

Resigned immediately. Did he do something bad? I think he was good for the program, but
maybe next info will be that they are hugely in debt and your taxes are going to skyrocket for parks.

Not sure why they have discuss the separation agreement.
1. He resigned.
2. Pay him his unused vacation as is required by law and end of story.
3. pay him thru the day he resigned and, and give him cobra...

Looks like maybe he got tired of his phone ringing off the hook, we want this and this and this...
Guess maybe time will tell..

[Christopher Moen]

Well a bit of shock but no one knows what happened!!

Joel Vettel resigned as head of Fargo Parks.

https://www.inforum.com/news/government-and-politics/2987365-Joel-Vettel-issues-statement-on-departure-from-Fargo-Park-District-interim-director-named

Resigned immediately. Did he do something bad? I think he was good for the program, but
maybe next info will be that they are hugely in debt and your taxes are going to skyrocket for parks.

Not sure why they have discuss the separation agreement.
1. He resigned.
2. Pay him his unused vacation as is required by law and end of story.
3. pay him thru the day he resigned and, and give him cobra...

Looks like maybe he got tired of his phone ringing off the hook, we want this and this and this...
Guess maybe time will tell..

From what I know, he didn't do something bad. Hopefully a more informed story will come out later as the story itself seemed fairly murky about his resignation.

[Greta Van Herd]

When Vettel didn’t get the police chief gig, and then later applied for and got the parks job, he was very clear about describing it as his “dream job”. Now, just three years later, he suddenly resigns his “dream job”?

Very strange.

[TAILG8R]

Seems to me he realized he might be in over his head, appreciated the opportu ity and the people he worked for but was classy enough to step down.

I could be and probably am dead wrong but that's how I read his quotes.

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[Greta Van Herd]

Seems to me he realized he might be in over his head, appreciated the opportu ity and the people he worked for but was classy enough to step down.

I could be and probably am dead wrong but that's how I read his quotes.

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You could be right, and I hope that’s what it is, but why wouldn’t he just come out and clearly say that then?

And why the tight lips by Papachek and the park board? If it is just as simple as you say it might be, they sure are making it seem more complicated than is necessary.

[El_Chapo]

it was a good ol boy slap on the back Xmas present of a hire at $140k-160k/year , thats all I know. guessing budgets werent met, pressure mounted.

[TAILG8R]

You could be right, and I hope that’s what it is, but why wouldn’t he just come out and clearly say that then?

And why the tight lips by Papachek and the park board? If it is just as simple as you say it might be, they sure are making it seem more complicated than is necessary.Because no matter how magnanimous you are it's still very hard to say publicly that you aren't up to the task.

I have respect for any person who admits they need a change and seeks it out on their own.

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[imabison]

Well a bit of shock but no one knows what happened!!

Joel Vettel resigned as head of Fargo Parks.

https://www.inforum.com/news/government-and-politics/2987365-Joel-Vettel-issues-statement-on-departure-from-Fargo-Park-District-interim-director-named

Resigned immediately. Did he do something bad? I think he was good for the program, but
maybe next info will be that they are hugely in debt and your taxes are going to skyrocket for parks.

Not sure why they have discuss the separation agreement.
1. He resigned.
2. Pay him his unused vacation as is required by law and end of story.
3. pay him thru the day he resigned and, and give him cobra...

Looks like maybe he got tired of his phone ringing off the hook, we want this and this and this...
Guess maybe time will tell..

WDAY said they had spoken to other people associated and said its was a management style issue. Probably was just time for him to leave, and he probably has something lined up.

[imabison]

WDAY said they had spoken to other people associated and said its was a management style issue. Probably was just time for him to leave, and he probably has something lined up.

https://www.inforum.com/news/government-and-politics/3828983-Severance-provides-salary-benefits-through-end-of-2019-for-Joel-Vettel-ex-director-of-Fargo-Park-District

So why does he get paid until the end of the year? REAL people quit a job and their salary and benefits end.
Beginning to sound like he was going to get a bad review and bugged out to keep it from the public.

Oh well, guess we all need to get public jobs so we can work 2 yrs and get severance...sheesh.

[HandoEX]

https://www.inforum.com/news/government-and-politics/3828983-Severance-provides-salary-benefits-through-end-of-2019-for-Joel-Vettel-ex-director-of-Fargo-Park-District

So why does he get paid until the end of the year? REAL people quit a job and their salary and benefits end.
Beginning to sound like he was going to get a bad review and bugged out to keep it from the public.

Oh well, guess we all need to get public jobs so we can work 2 yrs and get severance...sheesh.

Severance in this situation really feels f’d up!!

[NorthernBison]

https://www.inforum.com/news/government-and-politics/3828983-Severance-provides-salary-benefits-through-end-of-2019-for-Joel-Vettel-ex-director-of-Fargo-Park-District

So why does he get paid until the end of the year? REAL people quit a job and their salary and benefits end.
Beginning to sound like he was going to get a bad review and bugged out to keep it from the public.

Oh well, guess we all need to get public jobs so we can work 2 yrs and get severance...sheesh.

Maybe he had an employment contract rather than being employed “at will”. If that was the case, he gets paid unless you can terminate for cause. And, that usually involves something damn serious.

Even employment at will in these types of positions can get sticky if you aren’t careful. Easier, and cheaper, to negotiate a settlement.


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[imabison]

Maybe he had an employment contract rather than being employed “at will”. If that was the case, he gets paid unless you can terminate for cause. And, that usually involves something damn serious.

Even employment at will in these types of positions can get sticky if you aren’t careful. Easier, and cheaper, to negotiate a settlement.


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Thats easy for you to say, you don't pay Fargo Park taxes :) :). Without knowing the type of contract I suppose you right, just not happy that he can resign and get paid.

[NorthernBison]

Thats easy for you to say, you don't pay Fargo Park taxes :) :). Without knowing the type of contract I suppose you right, just not happy that he can resign and get paid.

If you read the agreement, there’s a lot of mutual “won’t sue” language. It appears both sides want it to end.

My educated guess is they didn’t have anything specific that would allow them to fire him. So, the meeting MIGHT have been to start the process of getting it moving with a less than good review. That would take 3-6 months anyway so why not just do it this way? Makes sense and brings closure.


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[56BISON73]

If you read the agreement, there’s a lot of mutual “won’t sue” language. It appears both sides want it to end.

My educated guess is they didn’t have anything specific that would allow them to fire him. So, the meeting MIGHT have been to start the process of getting it moving with a less than good review. That would take 3-6 months anyway so why not just do it this way? Makes sense and brings closure.


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Im with you. It became a mutual decision to leave when they agreed to the severance package. No mus--no fuss--no publicity etc etc.

[El_Chapo]

Smug is how i describe him, a nobody that rose due to peter principle in the police ranks and lucked out by getting handed a cushy parks rec job by outgoing roger gress.

#Karma

[Christopher Moen]

Smug is how i describe him, a nobody that rose due to peter principle in the police ranks and lucked out by getting handed a cushy parks rec job by outgoing roger gress.

#Karma

A nobody? My guess he told your crew to settle it down in parking lot too many times. Trust me, nothing was handed to him.


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[imabison]

Im with you. It became a mutual decision to leave when they agreed to the severance package. No mus--no fuss--no publicity etc etc.

https://www.inforum.com/news/3831792-Ex-Fargo-parks-director-disciplined-for-granting-excessive-vacation-leave-as-job-rating-plunged

Pretty much says it all, and he admitted he could not handle the job requirements. Good luck to him in the future.

[Soup Can]

Smug is how i describe him, a nobody that rose due to peter principle in the police ranks and lucked out by getting handed a cushy parks rec job by outgoing roger gress.

#Karma

Lucked out?
I think there is a lot more to the story on how he got the job in the first place. As a Fargo resident I was very unhappy how this all went down at the time. This is from memory so a couple facts might be out of order....

Vettle applies for FPD chief, does not get the job
Vettle learns of the upcoming retirement of Roger Gress
Vettle resigns from his elected position on the park board that he has been on about a decade
Vettle gets hired by the same park board he resigned from months earlier

Vettle gets paid a salary of over 2 times what he was making at FPD. Who pays anyone 2X their current salary to move into a position where they have no experience?

This story should have been right up Port's alley

[imabison]

Maybe he had an employment contract rather than being employed “at will”. If that was the case, he gets paid unless you can terminate for cause. And, that usually involves something damn serious.

Even employment at will in these types of positions can get sticky if you aren’t careful. Easier, and cheaper, to negotiate a settlement.


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https://www.inforum.com/opinion/columns/3830543-Port-These-Fargo-elected-leaders-are-dodging-accountability-and-it-stinks

Sickum Northern Bison set Mr Port straight :) :)

[NorthernBison]

https://www.inforum.com/opinion/columns/3830543-Port-These-Fargo-elected-leaders-are-dodging-accountability-and-it-stinks

Sickum Northern Bison set Mr Port straight :) :)

I read the performance evaluation. Based on what I read, they were probably committed to keeping him around until about year end anyway.

They could have fired him right now. They might get sued and would likely prevail. I’m betting the legal costs would be pretty close to what they are paying in severance. Without the fuss.

Port has a point about the “no talky” clause but that doesn’t mean I agree with him. I disagree but it’s not stupid.


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