Tickets for Champ game available on Illinois st website

[CHADSTAUS]

Just bought 4.

[westnodak93bison]

Put in my request for 6
Woops. I meant on our site

[Gully]

buy, buy, buy!!!!!!!!!!!

[BisonMinot]

Please note, TICKETS ARE NOT GUARANTEED

FWIW: means they go through the orders & cherry-pick who gets tix

[GOB1SON]

Thought the same thing then I read the sidebar:

Priority Order Deadline: Monday, December 29th at 5:00pm.
Place your order now for tickets to the 2015 Division I Football Championship on January 10, 2015.

Championship Game Information
Tickets will be allocated by the published Weisbecker Scholarship Fund guidelines. Location will be based on your WSF Priority Points and Ranking. All orders received after the Priority Deadline will be allocated in the best available section regardless of WSF ranking.

Please note, TICKETS ARE NOT GUARANTEED. No Exchanges will be granted. All orders will be taken at the $55 price level. If we are unable to fulfill your order at the highest price level, you will be placed in the next available section and refunded the difference. If we do not have enough tickets to process your order, your full payment will be refunded.

Tickets will be sent via UPS Overnight if ordered prior to January 5th. All orders on or after January 5th will be required to pick up at the Illinois State Will Call. Instructions on when and where to pick up Will Call tickets will be communicated at a later date.

[NDSUBowler]

I THINK I just bought 8. Unsure....

[BisonMinot]

I'm guessing they'll wait until January 5th....see how many orders they have & pick and choose at that time, so you won't know for sure until the 6th or 7th .

[CHADSTAUS]

Ahh. Missed the sidebar. See what happens.

[NDSUBowler]

I'm guessing they'll wait until January 5th....see how many orders they have & pick and choose at that time, so you won't know for sure until the 6th or 7th .

That would be a terrible thing to do as people need time to prepare for the trip.

[Bison bison]

This will likely work as the Redbirds will not sell out their allotment, but you probably won't know if you have tickets until the Monday before the game.

[No_Skill]

Hmmmmmm. Now we wait.

[MplsThunderingHerdFan]

Just placed an order for 4. Hope they come through as this would be an upgrade on seats. Thanks for the tip CHADSTAUS.

[Bison bison]

There is no notification on the mobile site. I just gave their head of ticketing a headsup as they could piss off a lot of people.

[CHADSTAUS]

Thank Swanny. Was on twitter. Just passing on the gospel of the herd.



Just placed an order for 4. Hope they come through as this would be an upgrade on seats. Thanks for the tip CHADSTAUS.

[gumby013]

Word form the ISUr board is they are processing all the requests tomorrow.

[EC8CH]

Word form the ISUr board is they are processing all the requests tomorrow.

Also can't believe we would try and buy their tickets.... That's cute.

[gumby013]

Also can't believe we would try and buy their tickets.... That's cute.

I didn't even have to hack the allotment this year. Towson > ISUr

[BisonEngrGirl]

I'm guessing they'll wait until January 5th....see how many orders they have & pick and choose at that time, so you won't know for sure until the 6th or 7th .

When I put in my purchase, it said the tickets will be sent over night via UPS on January 2nd. I wonder if we get any other notification, or if we just wait and see if we get tickets??


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[BisonTru]

5260

D*** ticket limits!

[Vitojr130]

5260

D*** ticket limits!

:rofl: ten char

[Bison 4 Life]

Also can't believe we would try and buy their tickets.... That's cute.

I bought Towson last year but $55 seems a little too pricey for those seats no matter what.

[Bison bison]

I ordered 2,000.

[BisonEngrGirl]

So now the website says the sale doesn't begin until Monday, December 22nd. Anyone know if they will honor the tickets purchased before they made this change?


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[SamsRams]

Can someone post a link to where this order forum is

[Bison bison]

So now the website says the sale doesn't begin until Monday, December 22nd. Anyone know if they will honor the tickets purchased before they made this change?


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I don't know how they can't. Their problem is that they don't know who bought on their mobile site which gave no notification about priority points.

They've really screwed up. Stopping sales until tomorrow doesn't change much as I've got an order for 2,000 in.

[BisonEngrGirl]

I don't know how they can't. Their problem is that they don't know who bought on their mobile site which gave no notification about priority points.

They've really screwed up. Stopping sales until tomorrow doesn't change much as I've got an order for 2,000 in.

ha ha well if they don't give me my 6, I'll assume you're willing to share a few of your 2,000.


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[StL Bison Fan]

Am I correct in there are no more to be purchased from the NCAA or Frisco office?

[tjbison]

Am I correct in there are no more to be purchased from the NCAA or Frisco office?

Not right now, wouldn't be shocked if a few more get released

[Bison 4 Life]

Not right now, wouldn't be shocked if a few more get released

I remember last year they had a release on the Monday after the champ game. It seems that they are doing more this year for the NDSU tickets to spread them out a little more. No more than you have season tickets and no more than 12 if you have more than that. I think it was different last year. Am I correct in this?

[Whitebuck]

From ISU Website:

"We are currently only taking orders NCAA Division I Football Championhsip via phone sales. Priority is given to Illinois State Donors, Season Ticket holders, Alumni and Students. We do not anticipate have any tickets available to the general public."

[CaBisonFan]

I remember last year they had a release on the Monday after the champ game. It seems that they are doing more this year for the NDSU tickets to spread them out a little more. No more than you have season tickets and no more than 12 if you have more than that. I think it was different last year. Am I correct in this?Are they really only selling one-for-one to season ticket holders?

[BisonAccountant44]

Are they really only selling one-for-one to season ticket holders?

NDSU is. You can request one for each season ticket you have up to 12, non season ticket holders can only request 2. What is the school allotment? I seem to remember it being 4 or 5,000 in past years, but I haven't been able to find it.

[Mr Meaty]

3,000 each school

[Bison bison]

A little late.

[NDSUBowler]

They better honor the order I put in AND paid for.

[Bison bison]

I just asked. I'm sure they're hoping not to, but they had an agreement...

Brushing up on the uniform commercial code...

[Putz]

When I put in my purchase, it said the tickets will be sent over night via UPS on January 2nd. I wonder if we get any other notification, or if we just wait and see if we get tickets??


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I just got an e-mail from their ticket office that said they will have the tickets allocated by this Tuesday. It gave no details if my order would be fulfilled.

[Bison bison]

They are trying for a redo.

They deleted my order in my online account.

I likely be sending them an email letting them know that you can't just throw contracts on the garbage.

[runtheoption]

They are trying for a redo.

They deleted my order in my online account.

I likely be sending them an email letting them know that you can't just throw contracts on the garbage.Illinois has not adopted the UCC. They have adopted the "corrupt & terrible local gov't" code.

[BlueHawkAlumni]

lol @ honest+illinois

[EC8CH]

Its like Oceans 11 watching Bison fans going after opposing teams ticket allotments. So much fun!

[StL Bison Fan]

Reading all this makes me appreciate ndsu more. They sure take care of us. They are organized.and you are always greeted with a smile at the ticket office.

[Putz]

Its like Oceans 11 watching Bison fans going after opposing teams ticket allotments. So much fun!

I agree, just getting the tickets has been pretty entertaining. I guess ISUr should have gotten some pointers from Townson on how to handle this (or not handle it).

[Gully]

I agree, just getting the tickets has been pretty entertaining. I guess ISUr should have gotten some pointers from Townson on how to handle this (or not handle it).

Don't you mean Towsend State? <purple>

[Bison 4 Life]

The website now says they are taking orders only over phone. I wonder how good a story you need to have to get them. They say Alumni and students but I don't know how they could verify if you are an alumnus.

[Tatanka]

The website now says they are taking orders only over phone. I wonder how good a story you need to have to get them. They say Alumni and students but I don't know how they could verify if you are an alumnus.



Basically, do you have a North Dakota area code and billing address... With Google voice you're halfway there...

[Bison bison]

If you purchased ticket from ISUr you may be entitled to compensation.

Call 18006661234 to reach the Chicago law offices of Dewey, Cheatum, and However.

[Bison bison]

My credit card has been charged and the tickets are in my account.

[JustinTyem]

My credit card has been charged and the tickets are in my account.
LoL,Suckers !!!!!! Way 2 Go NDB2,Way 2 Go !!!!!! :rofl:

[56BISON73]

Reading all this makes me appreciate ndsu more. They sure take care of us. They are organized.and you are always greeted with a smile at the ticket office.

Of course weve been down this road before so our people have a system now in place. I remember the first year. People were bitching about the process and ticket allotments etc etc etc.

[Bison bison]

I'm still pissed about how NDSU handled it!!!

[Bison bison]

What is Drago's parent's address?

I'm going to have my Redbird tickets sent to their house...

[Hammerhead]

ISU's site now says their allotment is sold out.

[bisonmike2]

Does anyone know what sections they were selling?

[runtheoption]

I'm still pissed about how NDSU handled it!!!Me too. I haven't seen anything via email, Twitter, Facebook, or in the Forum on how to get tickets. Have they gone on sale yet? It would not be that hard to do a simple press release.

[Bison"FANatic"]

It sure is fun watching them all get their panties in a bunch.


NDSU has this down to a science. Heck I got the robocall from NDSU about tickets at 11:15 or maybe later Friday night.

I wonder what ISU fans are going to think when they get to the stadium and see that we have overtaken all the lots and been tailgaiting for 2 hours already.

[runtheoption]

Heck I got the robocall from NDSU about tickets at 11:15 or maybe later Friday night. I even answered my cell when the ticketrobot called, which is a rarity for me, because I recognized it was probably an NDSU number. I figured a phone call at 11:15 pm must be important. The only other times my phone rings that late is when tatemosersneighbor's wife calls me.

[Bison"FANatic"]

Just wait until their basketball only crowd over on the ISU board gets going. It will be interesting and entertaining to say the least. I see one already posted this games means nothing more than who is the 129th best college football team.

[EndZoneQB]

They are saying "their sections". Hasn't it been in past years that the allotment is sort of scattered? Or did we just buy other teams tickets?

[gumby013]

They are saying "their sections". Hasn't it been in past years that the allotment is sort of scattered? Or did we just buy other teams tickets?

They're in my section! Had my tickets first.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/IMG_2057.jpg

[gumby013]

Taking ISU tickets.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=711&c=3911&f=3782243

[bisonmike2]

Really if people want to bitch, it's the NCAA's fault. They should be selling tickets for the game before the match ups are set. They cause this situation where most of the tickets are gone before anybody even knows the matchups. And if I remember correctly, we got screwed the first year because SHSU played Friday night and bought up alot of the tickets the night before our game.

[Bison4peat]

Taking ISU tickets.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=711&c=3911&f=3782243

Thanks for posting, host of radio program is very bitter!

[bisonmike2]

Thanks for posting, host of radio program is very bitter!

Yeah, no kidding. And the interview with the ISU AD, the AD sounds very confused. Also how is the radio guy so amazed that NDSU fans have bought a majority of the tickets? Have they not been paying attention to the past 3 years? We're in the same conference.

[gumby013]

This was posted and then deleted. Saving it here for posterity.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/RedbirdFan.jpg

[BisonTeacher]

This was posted and then deleted. Saving it here for posterity.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/RedbirdFan.jpg

If he sees ONE? Um.............

[EC8CH]

Taking ISU tickets.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=711&c=3911&f=3782243


"Alight Larry, explain to me cause I'm an idiot".... "This stadium holds 20,000 is that right?" "So you've got 2500 allocated to ISU 2500 allocated to North Dakota State. WHO'S BUYING ALL THESE OTHER TICKETS?"

Two Words: BISON NATION!

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[wagsabison]

I like how the discussion of NDSU fans sitting in "their" section better wear red. Throwing out all kinds of threats. Talk about a bunch of internet tough guys. Pretty pathetic actually.

[BisonNation11]

I think we should at least be nice to them and recycle our pom pons by placing one on each of their seats. A little welcoming gift. Seriously though, it's a neutral site. People will sit wherever they get tickets. Back away from the ledge and enjoy the experience.

[wagsabison]

Taking ISU tickets.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=711&c=3911&f=3782243

Listen to the athletic director interview too. I really think the radio guy has no idea how well attended this game will be by ndsu fans.

[bisonmike2]

If he sees ONE? Um.............

He covered his tracks perfectly. If he sees one...well we all know he'll see way more than one so he'll that just means he can just sit their quietly and not say shit to anyone on a technicality and still come off as a badass in his mind. And the comment on the overrated team doesn't make sense. Can you win 3 straight titles, make it to a fourth, yet still be seeded 2nd and be overrated?

[TateMosersneighbor]

I even answered my cell when the ticketrobot called, which is a rarity for me, because I recognized it was probably an NDSU number. I figured a phone call at 11:15 pm must be important. The only other times my phone rings that late is when tatemosersneighbor's wife calls me.

She keeps telling me its a call about car insurance. Weird.

It's funny...they are whining about this being illegal, immoral and unethical...and they live in Illinois! Fraud and corruption is their state's motto. Love it...

I do hope that any of their fans that don't have a ticket to the game make the trek. I think they will find their way into the game and enjoy the experience just like we have.

[StL Bison Fan]

If he sees ONE? Um.............

When first reading this I thought that this was pretty threatening and should be reported.
But the reality is he will be sitting in a sea of green and yellow and you won't hear a peep out of him. Talk is cheap.

Although I'm from StL, I should be able to hold my own.

[wagsabison]

Radio guy also said we had 12,000 last year... try a good 18,000+

[MNLonghorn10]

This was posted and then deleted. Saving it here for posterity.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/RedbirdFan.jpg
Doesn't ISU have to win something to gain respect

[MNLonghorn10]

He covered his tracks perfectly. If he sees one...well we all know he'll see way more than one so he'll that just means he can just sit their quietly and not say shit to anyone on a technicality and still come off as a badass in his mind. And the comment on the overrated team doesn't make sense. Can you win 3 straight titles, make it to a fourth, yet still be seeded 2nd and be overrated?
These guys are embarrassing to the human race.

It's a shame their moms didn't just swallow that night they were conceived

[TAILG8R]

Should be easy to get a few pain in the ass ISU fans thrown out of the stadium on game day.

[Bison03]

They are saying "their sections". Hasn't it been in past years that the allotment is sort of scattered? Or did we just buy other teams tickets?

The tickets the schools are given are usually on each sidelines from the 50 to the goal line. So this year the NDSU sections should be sectioins 126-132 and the ISU sections will be sections 101-107.



http://intl.ticketseating.com/maps/450w/10214-toyota-stadium-end-stage-ga.jpg

[daddy daycare]

Just like Keeler bitching about pre-game introductions, all this does is get them worrying about everything other than the actual game.

[56BISON73]

Really if people want to bitch, it's the NCAA's fault. They should be selling tickets for the game before the match ups are set. They cause this situation where most of the tickets are gone before anybody even knows the matchups. And if I remember correctly, we got screwed the first year because SHSU played Friday night and bought up alot of the tickets the night before our game.

We didnt get hosed. That was just some BS that someone posted which has supposedly turned in to fact over time. We werent out numbered the first year.

[Bison bison]

The tickets the schools are given are usually on each sidelines from the 50 to the goal line. So this year the NDSU sections should be sectioins 126-132 and the ISU sections will be sections 101-107.



http://intl.ticketseating.com/maps/450w/10214-toyota-stadium-end-stage-ga.jpg

The ISU sections are 105-108.

[bisonmike2]

I'm in section 103. Looks like I'll have to watch my back so I don't get my ass kicked by Redbirdfanatic32.

Bought my ticket Friday night.


*edit-looks like I'm not in their section. Whew, that was a close one. I'll be able to sleep soundly.

[56BISON73]

The tickets the schools are given are usually on each sidelines from the 50 to the goal line. So this year the NDSU sections should be sectioins 126-132 and the ISU sections will be sections 101-107.



http://intl.ticketseating.com/maps/450w/10214-toyota-stadium-end-stage-ga.jpg



Last year is was part of 107 to 114 and part of 126 to 119. We bought 64 tickets in sec 103 and my 3 year package is in 104.

[BYZEN]

The tickets the schools are given are usually on each sidelines from the 50 to the goal line. So this year the NDSU sections should be sectioins 126-132 and the ISU sections will be sections 101-107.



http://intl.ticketseating.com/maps/450w/10214-toyota-stadium-end-stage-ga.jpg
We already have tickets in those sections that are both from three year packs and purchased this summer from the NCAA so I will have any ISUr fan harassing me kicked out. We will be a LARGE group in Bison yellow and green.

Like PL pointed out we have a block and 3 year packs on the opposite (sunny) side. I think last year Towson was mostly in 120 and 121 I couldn't see much of the rest since we were on their side right behind their bench. This year it will be our bench!

[56BISON73]

The tickets the schools are given are usually on each sidelines from the 50 to the goal line. So this year the NDSU sections should be sectioins 126-132 and the ISU sections will be sections 101-107.



http://intl.ticketseating.com/maps/450w/10214-toyota-stadium-end-stage-ga.jpg

Where are you getting your information?

[MNLonghorn10]

hey guys, a former player is chiming in. He must've done a lot of standing on the sidelines to gather this information.


Wanted to chime in as a former athlete on what your players think of their "fans" who think they are helping the team by doing things like gaming the system to deny opposing team tickets, sit in opposing fan sections "for the thrill of it", disrespect opposing teams on their boards and generally act like miscreants. I am sure they never learned this as the back-up right guard on the jr high b team or as the second string free safety in pee-wee football in Fargo but they are nothing but a pain in your respective "teams" neck. They create the bulletin board material that means your players get laid out on the field on a clean but unnecessary hit by a player on the opposing teams whose family or friends can't make the game because you gamed the system to "steal" the opposing teams tickets. This year your facing an ISU Redbird Team that had 17 players [yep that is correct 17, 7 more than your Bisons] who were mentioned on the All Conf Team. Your Coach along with all the other Coaches in the MVC chose to recognize 17 Redbirds over their own players as well as Bisons at their position. That doesn't even include Cameron Meredith and Colin Keoshian, who received no mention and are two names you might want to familiarize yourself with in preparation for our Game. Believe me your Coaching Staff knows who they are. I HATED FANS LIKE YOU! Instead of my opponents thinking about my talents and how good my team is, they are blind with rage and steely determination to beat the crap out of me. This is still College Football, these are still young men who love their families are loyal to their teammates and are motivated by old school things like pride and passion. In the past, you've played less talented, less prepared teams. I would suggest your only chance of winning this game is momentum from previous years. Being there means something. Unlike your Bison who had the advantage of playing at home, ISU has crisscrossed the Country beating teams in places named "The Inferno" and "The Dungeon". Playing before a hostile crowd is nothing new. I was prepared to chant "MVC, MVC, MVC" in Frisco. I won't be if I'm surrounded by obnoxious Bison fans among the ISU faithful. 4th&Short is correct, you wont be welcome. Only A-Holes want to sit amongst the opposing team fans. That isn't a fan, that's is the epitome of everything wrong with Sports. Those fans are Clowns who like to feel the thrill of victory over someone without having accomplished anything other than buying a ticket. True fans want to share the experience with others who support the Team, they want to be there to share the Victory and mourn the loss with others emotionally invested in their Team. I will see you for what you are and treat you as such. This team I have watched intimately for a number of years. They are a group led by experienced, no-nonsense seniors, who aren't nice. The most common comment is they are a group of guys who don't want to let each other down. How do you think its going to play the next three weeks for them to listen to a litany of stories from friends and family about NDSU stealing tickets??? Nothing you can do to put that Genie back in the Bottle or better yet, the Tiger back in the Tank. I run into Former Athletes all the time. It's something we share and a great point of commonality. Sadly, I'll remember the Bison fans when I meet one of your Players and instead of thinking of your great program I'll think of your Program's Fans arrogance and lack of class. Your players and program deserve better. Lastly, the fact your Athletic Department and Administration is allowing this to happen to a fellow MVC school only makes it worse. For the Bison fans out there who aren't part of this, step up, stand up and do the right thing. Demand your Athletic Department do right by ISU. If nothing else tell them to put out a statement that they don't endorse this type of behavior and don't consider any "Fan" sitting in the ISU section a true "Bison Fan".

I made it through about halfway after he mentioned the 2 guys that we might want to get familiarized with and started thinking...


Has there been anyone from an opposing team to play NDSU that has stood out when he's mentioned on the dreaded "YOU MIGHT WANT TO REMEMBER THIS NAME" list? Feels like every big game, the opposing team has 3 players that will do nothing in the game but we were warned about them.

i didnt continue reading because i got bored and continued on with their bitching about how they wont have that many fans there.

[MNLonghorn10]

Im up for a good old fashioned ribbing like the next guy..but can these guys quit bitching about the stadium size? the stadium is fine for teams like ISUR vs whoever. When stud programs like NDSU are involved, it needs to be bigger. It is what it is. NDSU has probably more people on the season ticket waiting list than ISUR has total season ticket holders.

[TAILG8R]

Have any of the Redbirds fans figured out that NDSU is going to have 17k+ fans at this game? It sure seems like they are expecting us to have a few more fans because we had a little head start.

[kingbison]

They haven't even started whining about the hotel situation. I doubt they can even get one in Plano....I can't wait until they show up to the Wild Pitch and see the Bison Pride Banner above the front door and the Team Maker sticker in the window.

The mayor was on the McFeely show yesterday, "we couldn't be happier you're back" then McFooly asked him about us moving the pep Fest to the neighboring city and he says, "well you can pillage another town for once".

[EndZoneQB]

Lmao, I already got banned.

[Tatanka]

http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/deal-with-it.gif
Sent from somewhere on teh intarwebs

[bisonmike2]

Does somebody want to be the good guy and link the bisonville ticket exchange on their site?

[Hammerhead]

Me too. I haven't seen anything via email, Twitter, Facebook, or in the Forum on how to get tickets. Have they gone on sale yet? It would not be that hard to do a simple press release.

I received a phone call and e-mail shortly after the semifinal game ended. Maybe that only went out to people with accounts at gobison.com or just teammakers. I'm sure you'll need to be near the top of the priority points list to get any tickets from NDSU.

[Hammerhead]

He lost me at "Bisons" and I quit reading shortly after that.


hey guys, a former player is chiming in. He must've done a lot of standing on the sidelines to gather this information.



I made it through about halfway after he mentioned the 2 guys that we might want to get familiarized with and started thinking...


Has there been anyone from an opposing team to play NDSU that has stood out when he's mentioned on the dreaded "YOU MIGHT WANT TO REMEMBER THIS NAME" list? Feels like every big game, the opposing team has 3 players that will do nothing in the game but we were warned about them.

i didnt continue reading because i got bored and continued on with their bitching about how they wont have that many fans there.

[Buffalo.Rider]

Buying some of the 2500 (or so) tickets available at the ISU website, meant for the ISU fans.
Sorry fellow Bison, I don't agree this is right. Clever, perhaps. Classless, yep I think so. NDSU fans have a great reputation overall. Don't need, did not need, to 'steal' their tickets.

I thought the ISU coach on the radio program (that someone posted) handled it well. He said he has coached teams to 10 bowl games (FBS level) and how tickets are allocated is always an issue. He did not rail on NDSU fans (which impressed me). He also said that if someone wants to get tickets, they can follow stubhub and some will come down in price as game day approaches, and that there will likely be people around the stadium on game day selling seats, or they can find a sports bar and watch on TV. Good advice I think not only for ISU fans but NDSU fans still looking.

[56BISON73]

I received a phone call and e-mail shortly after the semifinal game ended. Maybe that only went out to people with accounts at gobison.com or just teammakers. I'm sure you'll need to be near the top of the priority points list to get any tickets from NDSU.

What make you think that?

[NDSUSR]

If they dont want to sit next to us at the game, I wonder how they will feel walking into every bar after the game and seeing nothing but Bison fans.

[56BISON73]

Buying some of the 2500 (or so) tickets available at the ISU website, meant for the ISU fans.
Sorry fellow Bison, I don't agree this is right. Clever, perhaps. Classless, yep I think so. NDSU fans have a great reputation overall. Don't need, did not need, to 'steal' their tickets.

I thought the ISU coach on the radio program (that someone posted) handled it well. He said he has coached teams to 10 bowl games (FBS level) and how tickets are allocated is always an issue. He did not rail on NDSU fans (which impressed me). He also said that if someone wants to get tickets, they can follow stubhub and some will come down in price as game day approaches, and that there will likely be people around the stadium on game day selling seats, or they can find a sports bar and watch on TV. Good advice I think not only for ISU fans but NDSU fans still looking.

It comes down to---Can you do it----yes. Is it the right thing to do-----probably not.

[bisonmike2]

Some of their fans on their forum are pretty clueless about how many Bison fans are going to be there. Someone posted this picture
http://images.panoramas.com/media/catalog/product/f/c/fcs14d.jpg
and one guy tried to blow it off as saying the Towson also wore yellow and that the picture is misleading. NDSU owned 90% of that stadium. It won't be like that this year but I'm still guessing we'll see something in the neighborhood of 70 to 75% Bison fans.

[MNLonghorn10]

90%......it was 95.

[wagsabison]

It's actually kind of sad seeing how worked up some of these guys are getting. Like their players are going to use this as extra motivation that a few hundred tickets were bought by someone other than ISU fans? I'm disliking ISU more and more as I read this stuff.

[Bison bison]

just cancelled a few buses because folks were concerned they might not get tickets...

[BYZEN]

Some of their fans on their forum are pretty clueless about how many Bison fans are going to be there. Someone posted this picture
http://images.panoramas.com/media/catalog/product/f/c/fcs14d.jpg
and one guy tried to blow it off as saying the Towson also wore yellow and that the picture is misleading. NDSU owned 90% of that stadium. It won't be like that this year but I'm still guessing we'll see something in the neighborhood of 70 to 75% Bison fans.
They wore B N.A. BLACK and white. End of story look at the interactive photo.

[gumby013]

They wore B N.A. BLACK and white. End of story look at the interactive photo.

Yup, they were primarily in these spots.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/friscotowson.jpg

[Green1]

So let me get this straight. Illinois St. releases Championship game tickets to the general public. Anyone can buy them. Bison fans buy some of them. Illinois St. realizes this was a stupid move. Stops selling to just anyone. Redbird fans beat their breasts and swear revenge upon Bison fans who bought tickets from their ticket office.

How exactly was this a classless move by Bison fans? Weren't these tickets being sold to anybody (scalpers included). Shouldn't the anger of the Redbird fans be directed towards their own administration? What am I missing?

[stevdock]

How does anyone know that Bison fans actually bought any of them? I bought 5 on Sunday, and it has been charged to my account but I fully expect it to be denied based on everything I've read and refunded my money.

[tjbison]

So let me get this straight. Illinois St. releases Championship game tickets to the general public. Anyone can buy them. Bison fans buy some of them. Illinois St. realizes this was a stupid move. Stops selling to just anyone. Redbird fans beat their breasts and swear revenge upon Bison fans who bought tickets from their ticket office.

How exactly was this a classless move by Bison fans? Weren't these tickets being sold to anybody (scalpers included). Shouldn't the anger of the Redbird fans be directed towards their own administration? What am I missing?

Yep, their clueless AD even said that scalpers applied on their site, but he "expects the list to not get that low" bottom line they best get their fans to buy all of them otherwise outsiders will get some of their tickets

[bisonmike2]

So let me get this straight. Illinois St. releases Championship game tickets to the general public. Anyone can buy them. Bison fans buy some of them. Illinois St. realizes this was a stupid move. Stops selling to just anyone. Redbird fans beat their breasts and swear revenge upon Bison fans who bought tickets from their ticket office.

How exactly was this a classless move by Bison fans? Weren't these tickets being sold to anybody (scalpers included). Shouldn't the anger of the Redbird fans be directed towards their own administration? What am I missing?

It's frustration and the people making the most noise on their end are people that probably won't go anyway. I did the same thing the first year we were in it. We won and before even thinking about how I would get down to Texas or where I would stay I looked for tickets and they were all gone. I bitched about SHSU playing the night before and being able to buy up the tickets. I bitched about NDSU and the athletic department about how they distributed their allotment. I bitched about stubhub and the jacked up prices. I bitched about everything (I still do) Turns out I couldn't' even go anyway but that still didn't stop me from complaining. That's what's going to happen on their website for the next week or so. If they are fortunate enough to make the game again next year or even in the next couple of years they'll learn from this. I did. I had everything booked the night before or during the game. Saved myself alot of stress and money.

[Bison"FANatic"]

The thing that is interesting is that it sounds like there own fans have done the same thing for basketball and MVC tournaments. The number of their 2500 allotment that went to NDSU fans will end up being quite small percentage. The biggest problem for them is that the majority of the tickets were sold months ago to Bison Fans. They could have also bought them but did not take the risk. If we would have lost in the playoffs there would have been a tremendous amount of tickets on the secondary market for little or nothing. It was a $50 risk that many were willing to take. The ticket is actually the cheapest part of the whole damn trip, heck I spent more on Alcohol the times I was down there (probably more in just the airports and planes much less tailgating and at restaurants added in).

[tjamz]

How does anyone know that Bison fans actually bought any of them? I bought 5 on Sunday, and it has been charged to my account but I fully expect it to be denied based on everything I've read and refunded my money.

Same here... well, bought 2 tickets but other than that I echo everything stevdock said

[scottietohottie]

Going to be real funny come December 29 when the isu fans who did get tickets try to book a trip to Frisco.

[Bison bison]

Then sell their tickets online to Bison fans...

[Hammerhead]

[/B]

What make you think that?

Aren't there around 12,000 season ticket holder and only 4,000 tickets to distribute? Then you have people like me who donate money and aren't a season ticket holder who want tickets. Add in former players who have 100 priority points and those tickets will go fast.

[roadwarrior]

Aren't there around 12,000 season ticket holder and only 4,000 tickets to distribute? Then you have people like me who donate money and aren't a season ticket holder who want tickets. Add in former players who have 100 priority points and those tickets will go fast.

But those without the needed priority points have moved on to other means of acquiring tickets. They learned quickly.

[GOB1SON]

But those without the needed priority points have moved on to other means of acquiring tickets. They learned quickly.

The draw went pretty deep into the priority points last year. However, I am not sure if the ticket numbers are different this year? For some reason, I thought we were near 4000 last few years, but it sounds like we are at 28 + 5 for students. I may be wrong about the previous years numbers.

[missingnumber7]

hey guys, a former player is chiming in. He must've done a lot of standing on the sidelines to gather this information.



I made it through about halfway after he mentioned the 2 guys that we might want to get familiarized with and started thinking...


Has there been anyone from an opposing team to play NDSU that has stood out when he's mentioned on the dreaded "YOU MIGHT WANT TO REMEMBER THIS NAME" list? Feels like every big game, the opposing team has 3 players that will do nothing in the game but we were warned about them.

i didnt continue reading because i got bored and continued on with their bitching about how they wont have that many fans there.

I read that and the first though I had is that CAS should head over there and show him how a real former player does it.


But then I thought maybe not cause Gellner would hang up on him again.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I believe it went to around 100 priority points last year.

[SamsRams]

We am I not surprised everyones least favorite gopher fan is over there coaching them up on how to find tickets and encouraging them to go

[56BISON73]

Aren't there around 12,000 season ticket holder and only 4,000 tickets to distribute? Then you have people like me who donate money and aren't a season ticket holder who want tickets. Add in former players who have 100 priority points and those tickets will go fast.

They went pretty deep down the list last year. Many were surprised they got tickets. Remember 12,000 season tickets are held by a considerable less amount of people.

[No_Skill]

The link to last year's thread discussing NDSU's allotment and priority points is below for reference:

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?32216-Bison-Ticket-Allotment&highlight=Priority+Points

It looks like about 100 points were needed to get tickets. Also note that in the thread it says Towson returned like 400 tickets that we added to our allotment. I would guess that this year the cutoff will be near the 120-140 point mark.

[Bison bison]

Holy shit, gentlemen.

I figured it out.

We've all been had.

The athletic department at ISUr is using draws from our credit cards to bolster their financial position at year end.

Right now they've pulled $110,015 in funds from my Amex Black card, with no corresponding offset.

While everyone thinks they erred in their handling of the allotment, the situation is working out SWIMMINGLY!!!

[BisonEngrGirl]

I still see my purchase on my online account with ISU. I hope this means I get to be harassed the entire game by the one ISU fan that was savvy enough to get a ticket before all the Bison fans bought them out!


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[EC8CH]

https://www.facebook.com/IllinoisStateUniversity/photos/a.207927582443.131714.18773072443/10152566946777444/?type=1&permPage=1

BOOK ALL THE ROOMS!


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbBCV3n2juN0SCNnzNNQRx_BVi8nVCL kiphHnPxAIiFrNwDL7l


Seriously though don't... this is "their" hotel.

[Bison bison]

$99 a night.


Not bad.

[tjbison]

https://www.facebook.com/IllinoisStateUniversity/photos/a.207927582443.131714.18773072443/10152566946777444/?type=1&permPage=1

BOOK ALL THE ROOMS!


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbBCV3n2juN0SCNnzNNQRx_BVi8nVCL kiphHnPxAIiFrNwDL7l


Seriously though don't... this is "their" hotel.

This would be epic

[mango]

Some of their fans on their forum are pretty clueless about how many Bison fans are going to be there. Someone posted this picture
http://images.panoramas.com/media/catalog/product/f/c/fcs14d.jpg
and one guy tried to blow it off as saying the Towson also wore yellow and that the picture is misleading. NDSU owned 90% of that stadium. It won't be like that this year but I'm still guessing we'll see something in the neighborhood of 70 to 75% Bison fans.

I'm not impressed

[Hammerhead]

I figured it would be a shot in the dark since my priority points rank is down around 3,000. In other words, if I had given them $4,500 earlier this year I might have a chance. :)

[BisonEngrGirl]

Dangit I just got an email from ISU saying that they can't fulfill my ticket request. How did they know I am not an alumni?


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[Bison bison]

Dangit I just got an email from ISU saying that they can't fulfill my ticket request. How did they know I am not an alumni?


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Because you're not a teacher or a dumbass?

[MAKBison]

this was posted and then deleted. Saving it here for posterity.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/redbirdfan.jpg

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NDSUBowler]

Got an email saying my ticket request was denied. Sigh...

[SamsRams]

I am going to make it my goal to buy tickets in their allotment on the secondary market.

[tjamz]

I am going to make it my goal to buy tickets in their allotment on the secondary market.

That's been my stated goal from my first post on their site. It's a tradition to sit in enemy territory, I rather enjoy it!

[BisManBison]

Any attorneys on here want to respond to the following:

Illinois State sends me an email advertising tickets to the game. Their advertising works and I click on the link and purchase 6 tickets on Saturday. I receive a confirmation email stating I have purchased 6 tickets. Subsequently my party purchases airline tickets to Frisco because we have tickets to the game as indicated by the verification email I recieved from Illinois State. Now I have $3500 in airline tickets but no game tickets. I suspect there may be 1000 to 2000 other NDSU fans in the same situation. Class Action Lawsuit potential here? Can we set their athletic department back financially here? Thoughts? Comments?

[tjbison]

Any attorneys on here want to respond to the following:

Illinois State sends me an email advertising tickets to the game. Their advertising works and I click on the link and purchase 6 tickets on Saturday. I receive a confirmation email stating I have purchased 6 tickets. Subsequently my party purchases airline tickets to Frisco because we have tickets to the game as indicated by the verification email I recieved from Illinois State. Now I have $3500 in airline tickets but no game tickets. I suspect there may be 1000 to 2000 other NDSU fans in the same situation. Class Action Lawsuit potential here? Can we set their athletic department back financially here? Thoughts? Comments?

Nope....your sol...pretty sure if you read all the fine print there was an out clause for them which did not guarantee you a ticket unless you met their criteria of either donor, alum or preference points just like ndsu has. We as donors still have to apply for tickets here also and are given the same way. Although ndsu does not charge you until you get them...

But still pretty sure you won't get shiat

[Bison bison]

Not a lawyer.

I think there's a case. Let's assume there is, what are the damages?

It's not the airline tickets. It's comparable tickets. Say $200 each?

Are you willing to go through the hassle of a lawsuit to make $140?

There may be dozens in the same boats, not hundreds or thousands.

[Bison bison]

Nope....your sol...pretty sure if you read all the fine print there was an out clause for them which did not guarantee you a ticket unless you met their criteria of either donor, alum or preference points just like ndsu has. We as donors still have to apply for tickets here also and are given the same way. Although ndsu does not charge you until you get them...

But still pretty sure you won't get shiat

The problem is they changed the original conditions.

They were initially priority points, which is based on giving and season ticket purchases. This was changed to include alumni.

Some who received tickets are alumni only, if ISUr would have stuck to the agreement those tickets would have likely been NDSU tickets.


I would send a strongly worded email to the ad, ticketing director, president, and general counsel questioning their manhood and integrity.

[BisManBison]

The problem is they changed the original conditions.

They were initially priority points, which is based on giving and season ticket purchases. This was changed to include alumni.

Some who received tickets are alumni only, if ISUr would have stuck to the agreement those tickets would have likely been NDSU tickets.


I would send a strongly worded email to the ad, ticketing director, president, and general counsel questioning their manhood and integrity.

Emails are flying. I've got some attorney friends I may consult and send a letter just for fun too.

[1998braves64]

On the other hand just go from all accounts there are tickets available. I bought airline tickets without having any tickets the first year. Eventually found some thanks to a connection on BV which I didn't know about until I was looking for tickets.
Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

[td577]

On the other hand just go from all accounts there are tickets available. I bought airline tickets without having any tickets the first year. Eventually found some thanks to a connection on BV which I didn't know about until I was looking for tickets.
Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

Eventually there will be saturation point. If 1/4 of the people who are thinking about going down with the thought of getting a ticket in Frisco, actually grab their junk and do it, there won't be enough tickets.

[1998braves64]

Eventually there will be saturation point. If 1/4 of the people who are thinking about going down with the thought of getting a ticket in Frisco, actually grab their junk and do it, there won't be enough tickets.


Hasn't happened yet still hear stories on here of so many tickets for sale in the parking lot. Until you hear people paying $100 a ticket up to game time they haven't reached that point. Likely will take a fanbase such as Montana schools competing against us.

[BisonAccountant44]

Any attorneys on here want to respond to the following:

Illinois State sends me an email advertising tickets to the game. Their advertising works and I click on the link and purchase 6 tickets on Saturday. I receive a confirmation email stating I have purchased 6 tickets. Subsequently my party purchases airline tickets to Frisco because we have tickets to the game as indicated by the verification email I recieved from Illinois State. Now I have $3500 in airline tickets but no game tickets. I suspect there may be 1000 to 2000 other NDSU fans in the same situation. Class Action Lawsuit potential here? Can we set their athletic department back financially here? Thoughts? Comments?
You meant for this to be in purple, right?

[td577]

You meant for this to be in purple, right?

They did send an email.

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[ndsubison1]

hey guys, a former player is chiming in. He must've done a lot of standing on the sidelines to gather this information.



I made it through about halfway after he mentioned the 2 guys that we might want to get familiarized with and started thinking...


Has there been anyone from an opposing team to play NDSU that has stood out when he's mentioned on the dreaded "YOU MIGHT WANT TO REMEMBER THIS NAME" list? Feels like every big game, the opposing team has 3 players that will do nothing in the game but we were warned about them.

i didnt continue reading because i got bored and continued on with their bitching about how they wont have that many fans there.

1. Their players wont give a rats ass what our fans do. I guarantee the players families will get a ticket. They are usually priority.
2. If they actually care about what we are doing then I guess that's less preperation for the actual opponent.
3. NDSU the past several years has been a better road team. You played road games well, because you were seeded lower. Not hard to figure out.
4. If the Dungeon in New Hampshire is a hostile environment, well, LOL
5. Congrats, on the All-Conference awards. That doesnt determine who's better. We play as a unit and only care about winning. Not accolades.
6. I was starting RB on my JR High team dammit!
7. I continue to encourage Bison fans to buy their tickets. If not, then I applaud those who have done so.

[BisManBison]

You meant for this to be in purple, right?

Nope, dead serious.

[BisonAccountant44]

Nope, dead serious.


Well then

5297

[PlainsBison]

OH NO. On the alumni web site, it says Bison fans are to park in the RED lots. This is just going to massively upset the red bird fans. Here we go. Round two.

[westnodak93bison]

OH NO. On the alumni web site, it says Bison fans are to park in the RED lots. This is just going to massively upset the red bird fans. Here we go. Round two.
Haha, nothing like rubbing salt in the wound!

[roadwarrior]

OH NO. On the alumni web site, it says Bison fans are to park in the RED lots. This is just going to massively upset the red bird fans. Here we go. Round two.

I was hoping the Alumni Association would ask for us to be in the west side lots for tailgating. Good to see that they did! Much more space on that side.

[TNbison]

Those are the home teams lots. It would be unsportsmanlike to park in "their" lots

[PlainsBison]

No they are going to complain that they don't have enough space to park their custom tailgate vehicles. Should we make and pass out some crying towels during tailgating?

[td577]

Those are the home teams lots. It would be unsportsmanlike to park in "their" lots

I am parking my rig wherever the is an open space. I am not particular about what side is what. From my understanding, their one tailgate vehicle is a 1973 chevelle station wagon, which would pretty cool but his mom didn't spring for the SS back in the day.

[BisManBison]

Well then

5297

Sorry, yes, I guess parts of that should have been purple. IM certainly not going to pursue legal action. If I were filthy sticking rich I might just for some entertainment value. Anyway,.I was mixing in a bit if mocking ISU with some sarcasm. I already had tickets to the game but took an opportunity to secure a few more for some other Bison Brethren, just trying to be a good member of Bison Nation. :biggrin:

[Faron79]

Maybe I'm wrong for doing this, but after we thumped SHSU Friday night, we bought our 3 GAME tickets on Stubhub Sunday morning! Other arrangements, hotel, etc., were done by dinnertime Sunday! We're on the 40yd-line, opposite side from the press-boxes, row 23.

Faron

[Hammerhead]

I wonder if the NCAA would ever consider moving the championship game to a site with variable seating arrangements. I just noticed an article at The Pioneer Press indicating the new Vikings stadium will have a "house-reduction mechanism" to bring capacity to about 25,000 for a potential MLS tenant.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_27207642/mls-stadium-isnt-end-all-league

[IndyBison]

I wonder if the NCAA would ever consider moving the championship game to a site with variable seating arrangements. I just noticed an article at The Pioneer Press indicating the new Vikings stadium will have a "house-reduction mechanism" to bring capacity to about 25,000 for a potential MLS tenant.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_27207642/mls-stadium-isnt-end-all-league

If a site with variable seating arrangements bid on it, I'm sure they would consider it.

[Hammerhead]

I forgot that the Vikings probably want to keep their stadium free in January for the playoffs. :(

[Green1]

I forgot that the Vikings probably want to keep their stadium free in January for the playoffs. :(

:rofl: Good one!

[1998braves64]

I forgot that the Vikings probably want to keep their stadium free in January for the playoffs. :(


Even though I am a Vikings fan you forgot your purple:biggrin:

[SamsRams]

I can tell you they did not cipher through all the Bison fans. A 2015 verbal asked me how to get tickets. I told him to try Illinois St first and if that doesnt work to watch the twitter feed for future ticket announcements. Reached out to him today about about the new release of tix tomorrow and said he already got tix from ISU.

[Bison 4 Life]

I can tell you they did not cipher through all the Bison fans. A 2015 verbal asked me how to get tickets. I told him to try Illinois St first and if that doesnt work to watch the twitter feed for future ticket announcements. Reached out to him today about about the new release of tix tomorrow and said he already got tix from ISU.

yeah, they deny it but I'm pretty sure I could have gotten tickets with my KS address. They were charging $55 a ticket though and I didn't want to give them extra money.

[GOB1SON]

yeah, they deny it but I'm pretty sure I could have gotten tickets with my KS address. They were charging $55 a ticket though and I didn't want to give them extra money.

Paid 60 for my tickets from the ticket office, but at least the "extra" is going to SU.

[MAKBison]

I know something ISUwhosyourdaddy does not know :innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent: :innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent: :innocent::innocent::innocent:

See you all in Frisco

[tjbison]

I know something ISUwhosyourdaddy does not know :innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent: :innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent::innocent: :innocent::innocent::innocent:

See you all in Frisco

how to get tickets thru their ad.

[MAKBison]

how to get tickets thru their ad.

:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:MAYBE:bow::bow: :bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:

[gumby013]

Don't tell them, but it appears they have profiteers in their own ranks.

ISU sent out ticket confirmation emails yesterday with seat assignments...and the same day tickets in the same section and rows start showing up on Stubhub...for triple face.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/ISUTICKETS.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/Stubhub.jpg

[Tatanka]

Don't tell them, but it appears they have profiteers in their own ranks.

ISU sent out ticket confirmation emails yesterday with seat assignments...and the same day tickets in the same section and rows start showing up on Stubhub...for triple face.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/ISUTICKETS.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/Stubhub.jpg


I'm shocked. SHOCKED.

[EC8CH]

Seriously, now they are complaining that the tickets they did manage to get are not good enough seats?!

My Gawd.

[BYZEN]

Seriously, now they are complaining that the tickets they did manage to get are not good enough seats?!

My Gawd.

BITE ME two years ago my allotment was section 132 against the wall. After that I decided to get my own tickets before the season started. ISU fans had the same opportunity.

[scbison91]

Seriously, now they are complaining that the tickets they did manage to get are not good enough seats?!

My Gawd. There really isn't a bad seat in the stadium...

[EC8CH]

There really isn't a bad seat in the stadium...

Precisely....

[BisonNation11]

They should be happy enough their team made it and they have the opportunity to go and sit amongst their fans.

[Bison 4 Life]

I think instead of like the last few years, they issued the corner section that students have traditionally had to the larger public in their allotment. I believe there are 3 dedicated sections. 2 in the middle and one in the corner. It's going to look a lot like 2012 in there.

[StL Bison Fan]

I think instead of like the last few years, they issued the corner section that students have traditionally had to the larger public in their allotment. I believe there are 3 dedicated sections. 2 in the middle and one in the corner. It's going to look a lot like 2012 in there.

A lot of us bought end zone. I think the students might be in those corners or maybe they just put them in the respective allotment and called it good.

[Bison 4 Life]

A lot of us bought end zone. I think the students might be in those corners or maybe they just put them in the respective allotment and called it good.

I only noticed last year that the Towson students were in that corner but I definitely saw a couple years ago where there were only a few sections of solid orange and that's kind of how it shook out.

[gumby013]

Now they are complaining the tickets don't look fancy enough.

[Bison 4 Life]

Now they are complaining the tickets don't look fancy enough.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rQvRfjf6O0M/UFtjk8uwfAI/AAAAAAAAA5E/HV3FjARrMZU/s1600/Facepalm+Colage.+Eeyup_40a9a2_3197505.gif

[Hammerhead]

There are also post that seem to talk about leaving at halftime for calzones. I'm guessing that there is no re-admittance like there is at 99% of stadiums.

[tjbison]

Now they are complaining the tickets don't look fancy enough.

Lol, what a bunch of unappreciative bitches

[bisonmike2]

Lol, what a bunch of unappreciative bitches

Give them a break. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for them. Maybe they wanted to use the ticket design for their runner-up t-shirts?

[tjbison]

Give them a break. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for them. Maybe they wanted to use the ticket design for their runner-up t-shirts?

Thing is they obviously don't understand the NCAA isn't going to waste money on fancy tickets, it's not a corporate sponsored bowl game

Ncaa basketball tickets are pretty bland also

[Hammerhead]

I heard the 3-year ticket packages have nice tickets and a fancy holder. :)

[56BISON73]

I heard the 3-year ticket packages have nice tickets and a fancy holder. :)

You are correct. And a championship pin.

[gumby013]

I heard the 3-year ticket packages have nice tickets and a fancy holder. :)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/IMG_2057.jpg

[tjbison]

I guess I could care less what the tickets look like, I get in the game I usually lose or find the stub crumbled in my pocket the next day

[bisonaudit]

Don't tell them, but it appears they have profiteers in their own ranks.

ISU sent out ticket confirmation emails yesterday with seat assignments...and the same day tickets in the same section and rows start showing up on Stubhub...for triple face.



Capitalist pig dogs. /purple

[StL Bison Fan]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d156/gumby013/IMG_2057.jpg

Wait! You are in Their section!!!

[gumby013]

Wait! You are in Their section!!!

I'll make sure to show them the fancy tickets.

[tjbison]

I'll make sure to show them the fancy tickets.
Post them over there....bet that will get a few of them going

[1998braves64]

The tickets picture also feature the Bison too!! Poor ISUr.

Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

[MAKBison]

Got my ISU tickets they are right they suck just BBBLLLAAA Not that I care, my other one were shinny came with holder and free pair of championship gloves.

[dewey]

Got my ISU tickets they are right they suck just BBBLLLAAA Not that I care, my other one were shinny came with holder and free pair of championship gloves.

I got my 4 from Illinois State today. Slightly better than the ones I already have. I will be selling 2 or 4 tomorrow once I find out how many others want.

Dewey

[56BISON73]

Got my ISU tickets they are right they suck just BBBLLLAAA Not that I care, my other one were shinny came with holder and free pair of championship gloves.

Championship gloves? WTF all they sent us was a Championship pin.

[td577]

My ISU allotment tickets were closer to the field, but a section further from midfield than the three year pack I had. There's six of each, so I don't know which ones to give to my friends yet. I can give them either as I'll convert them to flash and keep the nice looking ones. My friends just know I sold them six, not what section yet. Closer to the field or closer to the 50. Tough call.

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[MAKBison]

Championship gloves? WTF all they sent us was a Championship pin.

Got a pin to....you didn't get gloves?

[SamsRams]

My ISU allotment tickets were closer to the field, but a section further from midfield than the three year pack I had. There's six of each, so I don't know which ones to give to my friends yet. I can give them either as I'll convert them to flash and keep the nice looking ones. My friends just know I sold them six, not what section yet. Closer to the field or closer to the 50. Tough call.

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Do you want to get beat up or your friends is the real question

[MAKBison]

My ISU allotment tickets were closer to the field, but a section further from midfield than the three year pack I had. There's six of each, so I don't know which ones to give to my friends yet. I can give them either as I'll convert them to flash and keep the nice looking ones. My friends just know I sold them six, not what section yet. Closer to the field or closer to the 50. Tough call.

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Put mine on flash, Gotta bid form ISU. I am gounna wait a bit before I sell them.

[56BISON73]

Got a pin to....you didn't get gloves?

No what section are you in. Im in the Redbirds section. May be thats why I only got the pin? I know a bunch who bought the 3 year package in their sections.

[MAKBison]

No what section are you in. Im in the Redbirds section. May be thats why I only got the pin? I know a bunch who bought the 3 year package in their sections.


Thats probably it I am on the NDSU side. I know other on that side that received gloves as well. They are nice, Black and have FCS Championship written on them

[td577]

My only complaint is that two years in a row I got a pin where the posts were broken.

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[tjbison]

Do you want to get beat up or your friends is the real question

This above right here

[tjbison]

I'm only selling to ndsu fans, otherwise I'll eat the price of each


We own Frisco

[MAKBison]

I'm only selling to ndsu fans, otherwise I'll eat the price of each


We own Frisco

Yeah your right I could never live with myself If there were SU fans that needed tickets And I sold to ISU. Man they should scream at there AD for letting this happen, I mean what kind of institution openly sells tickets and then trys to go back and fix it.... Yeah that will work Dumbasses... oh well, MY and some other SU fans good fortune.



BTW Mayor Maso was on KFGO (For the ISU lurkers KFGO is a local radio station here in Fargo...OH yeah Fargo is what over on your forum you commonly refer to as hicksville YOu now its in that thing you all call a shitty state that no one cares about. Maso is the Mayor of Frisco) Anyway, M-Maso indicated that the Mayor from the next city over was a Redbird Alum and was sucking up to him for tickets. Maso goes on to say, he had to turn the poor sap down Tickets are gong to the friends he made when he visited her in the fall. I LOL!

[tjbison]

Yeah your right I could never live with myself If there were SU fans that needed tickets And I sold to ISU. Man they should scream at there AD for letting this happen, I mean what kind of institution openly sells tickets and then trys to go back and fix it.... Yeah that will work Dumbasses... oh well, MY and some other SU fans good fortune.



BTW Mayor Maso was on KFGO (For the ISU lurkers KFGO is a local radio station here in Fargo...OH yeah Fargo is what over on your forum you commonly refer to as hicksville YOu now its in that thing you all call a shitty state that no one cares about. Maso is the Mayor of Frisco) Anyway, M-Maso indicated that the Mayor from the next city over was a Redbird Alum and was sucking up to him for tickets. Maso goes on to say, he had to turn the poor sap down Tickets are gong to the friends he made when he visited her in the fall. I LOL!

only the Highly superior MVC would do this.......we are just hicks with nothing better to do like everyone tells us yet Illinois St is the least known team going into this game by far


but they are in the MVC and we are not worthy

[MAKBison]

only the Highly superior MVC would do this.......we are just hicks with nothing better to do like everyone tells us yet Illinois St is the least known team going into this game by far


but they are in the MVC and we are not worthy

That is pretty much the word around there. Well, other than these oldies but goodies.... we have not played anyone like them before, Their speed will shock us, There Dual threat QB is like nothing we have ever seen.

[tjbison]

That is pretty much the word around there. Well, other than these oldies but goodies.... we have not played anyone like them before, Their speed will shock us, There Dual threat QB is like nothing we have ever seen.

Just abother School's fanbase that will stoop to making fun of ND etc...already happening even though they have no clue in Bumfuck Illinois. I forgot Normal Il is a top destination to live and is full of Activities. Once we win they will say we are the only ticket in town or the state and thats why they lost...

cant wait, fuck the MVC and their schools arrogance

afterall everyone of their football schools are chasing us and thats awesome considering we were shit on the first couple years

[MAKBison]

Just abother School's fanbase that will stoop to making fun of ND etc...already happening even though they have no clue in Bumfuck Illinois. I forgot Normal Il is a top destination to live and is full of Activities. Once we win they will say we are the only ticket in town or the state and thats why they lost...

cant wait, fuck the MVC and their schools arrogance

Its worse than that, they claim they are from chi town. Its Freaking Funny! They wont/dont even claim Normal. Nope its all about Chi.....reminds me of that HS kid who is trying to impress the girl and does not want her to know about is "strange family" so he does everything he can to disown them. Again Too Funny

[tjbison]

Its worse than that, they claim they are from chi town. Its Freaking funny!

They need to start the excuses early...cant lose to ND!!!

[MAKBison]

They need to start the excuses early...cant lose to ND!!!

I guess I expected more out of them...its not like this is their first time experiencing The SU machine. You would think they would know better.

[tjbison]

I guess I expected more out of them...its not like this is their first time experiencing The SU machine. You would think they would know better.

I expected it, same thing the UNI, Missouri St, SIU fans say every time we play them....or when the slightest thought of NDSU being a MVC all sports team comes up.

THey hate so bad to have us in the same all sports conference because we are far underneath them its funny....ive lost respect

But they think they are soooo good they can be B1G or Big12 BBall schools, but the funny thing is NONE are or will be

[StL Bison Fan]

Lot of arrogance from the residents of a state that brings you East St Louis. A great place that your car gets stripped at a stop sign and you get murdered when you get out to look ( or before)

Listened to the Mayor on the radio. Was asked what he thought about them moving the pep fest to Allen.
He said , well, they can pillage that town on Friday.

[Gully]

They need to evaluate where this game will be held long term. I know that NDSU brings the majority of the fans, but what if NDSU makes it nearly every year? Doesn't a bigger venue make sense?

[IndyBison]

They need to evaluate where this game will be held long term. I know that NDSU brings the majority of the fans, but what if NDSU makes it nearly every year? Doesn't a bigger venue make sense?

How big of a stadium do you think we could fill each year? I think a 30k seat stadium would be good for any pairing but prior to us showing up I think they were averaging 10-12k. They had no reason to expect 20k would be too small.

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[Gully]

How big of a stadium do you think we could fill each year? I think a 30k seat stadium would be good for any pairing but prior to us showing up I think they were averaging 10-12k. They had no reason to expect 20k would be too small.

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Right, I'm not critical of the site they selected. It's been great and would be ok even with a smaller crowd. I'm just suggesting that they'll have to choose to continue there or move somewhere else soon. I think the "talks" are coming up soon. In fact, I think Kolpack and Izzo or going to discuss it in the next 50 minutes on 970 WDAY.

[Gully]

But yeah, I think a 30,000 - 35,000 stadium would be about right for a FCS championship game that involves NDSU. I'm not sure what the options would be for something of that size in warmer climates.

[Bison 4 Life]

How big of a stadium do you think we could fill each year? I think a 30k seat stadium would be good for any pairing but prior to us showing up I think they were averaging 10-12k. They had no reason to expect 20k would be too small.

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EWU and Delaware had 13k. Prior to that, the most highly attended game in Chattanooga was 23k with App state (relatively close). The high in Huntington, WV was when Marshal played and that was 32k.

A lot of 12-15 k games in the other years.

[Gully]

EWU and Delaware had 13k. Prior to that, the most highly attended game in Chattanooga was 23k with App state (relatively close). The high in Huntington, WV was when Marshal played and that was 32k.

A lot of 12-15 k games in the other years.

Yes, that's the way that it was. What if it won't be like that in the future?

[Bison 4 Life]

Yes, that's the way that it was. What if it won't be like that in the future?

It's been 30 years. The circumstances surrounding the last few years have been total outliers. Big fan base plus close team for the first two years. Without us, I doubt they sell out.

ISUr could maybe muster 6k total and CCU might have done about the same.

[JSUBison]

Time for someone to start the Toyota Stadium Expansion thread. How much money is Frisco making on the championship income versus how much would it cost to start adding on? I don't even know if it's possible at that stadium since they don't have corner supports, but if they added on like Montana has done it, it might not be such a high price tag. Eventually one day NDSU won't make the game, and we'll see just how many fans will show up. It would be great if the game continues to receive high attendance if NDSU doesn't play.

[EndZoneQB]

Time for someone to start the Toyota Stadium Expansion thread. How much money is Frisco making on the championship income versus how much would it cost to start adding on? I don't even know if it's possible at that stadium since they don't have corner supports, but if they added on like Montana has done it, it might not be such a high price tag. Eventually one day NDSU won't make the game, and we'll see just how many fans will show up. It would be great if the game continues to receive high attendance if NDSU doesn't play.

Yeah, I mean, it's really going to be hard to say what happens. It's hard to estimate how much NDSU has helped the overall culture of the FCS game. I bet we have engaged more locals in the event and tickets will still sell decently well - but you never know. Outside of that, I think NDSU has grown the FCS brand more than any team in recent history, with the exception of maybe ASU over Michigan.

[Gully]

It's been 30 years. The circumstances surrounding the last few years have been total outliers. Big fan base plus close team for the first two years. Without us, I doubt they sell out.

ISUr could maybe muster 6k total and CCU might have done about the same.

How many consecutive full stadiums will it take to not be an outlier? What if NDSU makes it nearly every year?

[Bison 4 Life]

How many consecutive full stadiums will it take to not be an outlier? What if NDSU makes it nearly every year?

Then I will need another job to fund my yearly solo vacation. I'm living on borrowed time as it is. The contract only has one more year left in it.

I do, however think that the committee has in mind a number around 18-20k as their target for attendance taking the recent years into account.

[td577]

How many consecutive full stadiums will it take to not be an outlier? What if NDSU makes it nearly every year?

I have a feeling this is perfect for the NCAA. There is a lesser risk when NDSU isn't in there to fill a 30k stadium and when NDSU football is in there, the size of the stadium alone creates its own personality with demand. By having its hand in the secondary market cookie jar, the NCAA makes money anyways. When tickets start reselling for 2-3 times face value, they are in enough ticket exchanges, they are getting a portion of the fees. They don't have to do anything else and it is pure profit. Plus they made money on the first go around. I think they are very satisfied with the monster that was created and don't care if they could sell another 10k seats. They are selling the 20k they already have two or three times. Without the crazy demand, they sell 30k once. In leaner years, they don't lose as much selling 15k. I don't see them changing to a larger venue. They want more demand than supply. If it wasn't for the secondary market, sure they would look for ways to maximize a stadium's capacity, but the secondary market has become their main profit center. They are going to do nothing to jeopardize that income flow.

[IndyBison]

I have a feeling this is perfect for the NCAA. There is a lesser risk when NDSU isn't in there to fill a 30k stadium and when NDSU football is in there, the size of the stadium alone creates its own personality with demand. By having its hand in the secondary market cookie jar, the NCAA makes money anyways. When tickets start reselling for 2-3 times face value, they are in enough ticket exchanges, they are getting a portion of the fees. They don't have to do anything else and it is pure profit. Plus they made money on the first go around. I think they are very satisfied with the monster that was created and don't care if they could sell another 10k seats. They are selling the 20k they already have two or three times. Without the crazy demand, they sell 30k once. In leaner years, they don't lose as much selling 15k. I don't see them changing to a larger venue. They want more demand than supply. If it wasn't for the secondary market, sure they would look for ways to maximize a stadium's capacity, but the secondary market has become their main profit center. They are going to do nothing to jeopardize that income flow.

I doubt the NCAA looks at this as much of a money maker. Even if they got every penny of the tickets sold ($45 at 20k), it's only $900k. I don't know what their percentage of the aftermarket sales are, but I doubt its any more than a few grand. Their basketball TV contract alone is $10.8b. If you are make $60k/year, the equivalent would be having a side job where you made $5-$10 total. You aren't going to care much if you made $20 or lost $20, but you would prefer to make $20. That's how the FCS Championship fits in with the NCAA from a money standpoint.

Some of that money goes back to the schools participating to cover their expenses. The conferences probably get some. The organizing committee gets some. The good news for the NCAA is they probably aren't losing money on this event. Even if they went to a 30k seat stadium and sold it out, it's not going to generate a ton of money. They'll go with the bid that meets their needs the most and right now Frisco is a pretty good option. They embrace the event and put on a good show. It's in a major metro market and somewhat centrally located.

[Bison 4 Life]

I doubt the NCAA looks at this as much of a money maker. Even if they got every penny of the tickets sold ($45 at 20k), it's only $900k. I don't know what their percentage of the aftermarket sales are, but I doubt its any more than a few grand. Their basketball TV contract alone is $10.8b. If you are make $60k/year, the equivalent would be having a side job where you made $5-$10 total. You aren't going to care much if you made $20 or lost $20, but you would prefer to make $20. That's how the FCS Championship fits in with the NCAA from a money standpoint.

Some of that money goes back to the schools participating to cover their expenses. The conferences probably get some. The organizing committee gets some. The good news for the NCAA is they probably aren't losing money on this event. Even if they went to a 30k seat stadium and sold it out, it's not going to generate a ton of money. They'll go with the bid that meets their needs the most and right now Frisco is a pretty good option. They embrace the event and put on a good show. It's in a major metro market and somewhat centrally located.

The NCAA isn't out to make money at these things at all. I was at the DII game at Sporting Park in KC. The capacity is 18k and they only sold 6,600 tickets at $20 for any seat.

[IndyBison]

The NCAA isn't out to make money at these things at all. I was at the DII game at Sporting Park in KC. The capacity is 18k and they only sold 6,600 tickets at $20 for any seat.

Exactly. Their goal is to minimize losses so they can spread out the major revenue sources as much as possible. They get a lot of grief for what happens with the major sports, but it's a really small part of what they do. It drives all the revenue though. They've put themselves in a tough spot.

[Professor Chaos]

How big of a stadium do you think we could fill each year? I think a 30k seat stadium would be good for any pairing but prior to us showing up I think they were averaging 10-12k. They had no reason to expect 20k would be too small.

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I know, I know, the NCAA won't allow sanctioned events in the state of Nevada due to sports betting laws in place there but let me dream, dammit!

Sam Boyd Stadium (Las Vegas, NV) - capacity 36,800

http://svcdn.simpleviewinc.com/v2/cache/lasvegas/01E2828A9737C73B4A9D55FF99DD2403.jpg

[Bison 4 Life]

If they really wanted a bigger stadium they'd just go back to Marshall's stadium. That holds something like 38k.

[td577]

I doubt the NCAA looks at this as much of a money maker. Even if they got every penny of the tickets sold ($45 at 20k), it's only $900k. I don't know what their percentage of the aftermarket sales are, but I doubt its any more than a few grand. Their basketball TV contract alone is $10.8b. If you are make $60k/year, the equivalent would be having a side job where you made $5-$10 total. You aren't going to care much if you made $20 or lost $20, but you would prefer to make $20. That's how the FCS Championship fits in with the NCAA from a money standpoint.

Some of that money goes back to the schools participating to cover their expenses. The conferences probably get some. The organizing committee gets some. The good news for the NCAA is they probably aren't losing money on this event. Even if they went to a 30k seat stadium and sold it out, it's not going to generate a ton of money. They'll go with the bid that meets their needs the most and right now Frisco is a pretty good option. They embrace the event and put on a good show. It's in a major metro market and somewhat centrally located.

No, you are right the NCAA is looking at events like the FCS championship and doing everything they can to minimize losses. Part of minimizing the loss is to maximize the event. My post still holds true. The NCAA has an associate director position whose only role is to be a liaison between the NCAA and the secondary ticket market. The partnerships and relationship with this part of the process can't be ignored and the picking and choosing of event locations certainly has this guy in the picture. Stubhub is cutting a yearly check for 8 or 9 figures to the NCAA for their share of fees. They have a separate NCAA guy who just manages the secondary market relationships for the NCAA basketball tourney as only 25% of the tickets are ever directly available to the general public. They need to manage the resale of allotments. This has become a central point for the NCAA and there are two reasons for them to get into this. They need to make sure the ticket price floor is maintained as to not devalue their product and they quit trying to avoid the scalpers and would rather take part in the chunk of change they were missing out on. Even for a low lying event like the FCS championship, in the big picture, has the potential to make a lot of money for them and they need to have a manageable supply to make this happen.

Let's say NDSU has a first round loss. 1,000 presold tickets hit the market. They are bought by Chatty fans. They lose in the second round. Now they sell the tickets to UNH fans who lose in the next round and so on. There were a small number of tickets that might have been sold 5 times this post season. The NCAA captured a portion of the fees on every transaction through their partnerships with the secondary market. It adds up.

[IndyBison]

Remember, they don't "go" anywhere. They ask different groups to submit bids. It's possible they would solicit someone to submit a bid so they could go to Vegas or Marshall and ask them to bid. But those local organizers would have to want it because they are going to do most of the work and take the biggest financial risks.

The Vegas location would be good if we were involved as well as another team with a decent following, but I doubt it would ever sell out. It's not centrally located, but that probably wouldn't matter since it's Vegas. I'm the exception, but I would NOT attend because it was in Vegas. I'm just not a big fan. It's no longer a cheap place to fly to or stay. If New Hampshire and Coastal Carolina had won this year, how would the Vegas stadium look with 8-10k fans in the stands?

[td577]

I know, I know, the NCAA won't allow sanctioned events in the state of Nevada due to sports betting laws in place there but let me dream, dammit!

Sam Boyd Stadium (Las Vegas, NV) - capacity 36,800

http://svcdn.simpleviewinc.com/v2/cache/lasvegas/01E2828A9737C73B4A9D55FF99DD2403.jpg

I like your dream. The problem is convincing my wife a vegas experience would not hinder our bank account.

[Professor Chaos]

I like your dream. The problem is convincing my wife a vegas experience would not hinder our bank account.
Cheap flights, cheap hotels.... what could possibly go wrong financially? :biggrin:

[IndyBison]

No, you are right the NCAA is looking at events like the FCS championship and doing everything they can to minimize losses. Part of minimizing the loss is to maximize the event. My post still holds true. The NCAA has an associate director position whose only role is to be a liaison between the NCAA and the secondary ticket market. The partnerships and relationship with this part of the process can't be ignored and the picking and choosing of event locations certainly has this guy in the picture. Stubhub is cutting a yearly check for 8 or 9 figures to the NCAA for their share of fees. They have a separate NCAA guy who just manages the secondary market relationships for the NCAA basketball tourney as only 25% of the tickets are ever directly available to the general public. They need to manage the resale of allotments. This has become a central point for the NCAA and there are two reasons for them to get into this. They need to make sure the ticket price floor is maintained as to not devalue their product and they quit trying to avoid the scalpers and would rather take part in the chunk of change they were missing out on. Even for a low lying event like the FCS championship, in the big picture, has the potential to make a lot of money for them and they need to have a manageable supply to make this happen.

Let's say NDSU has a first round loss. 1,000 presold tickets hit the market. They are bought by Chatty fans. They lose in the second round. Now they sell the tickets to UNH fans who lose in the next round and so on. There were a small number of tickets that might have been sold 5 times this post season. The NCAA captured a portion of the fees on every transaction through their partnerships with the secondary market. It adds up.

It may add up but an FCS game is going to be such a small dent in their cash flow/budget it's not going to make much difference. It probably helps cover the salaries of the guys you mention. I can also tell you those guys make less working for the NCAA than they could elsewhere. With a few exceptions at the top most NCAA staffers are underpaid. For example, an IT person who could make $70-$90k in the corporate world is probably making $50-$60k at the NCAA.

The FCS tournament is important to them but only in the same vein as the hockey tournament or women's softball tournament. It's probably more "valuable" than the D2 tennis tournament or D3 swim meet, but they have to allocate their resources to all those championships.

[Bison 4 Life]

Remember, they don't "go" anywhere. They ask different groups to submit bids. It's possible they would solicit someone to submit a bid so they could go to Vegas or Marshall and ask them to bid. But those local organizers would have to want it because they are going to do most of the work and take the biggest financial risks.

The Vegas location would be good if we were involved as well as another team with a decent following, but I doubt it would ever sell out. It's not centrally located, but that probably wouldn't matter since it's Vegas. I'm the exception, but I would NOT attend because it was in Vegas. I'm just not a big fan. It's no longer a cheap place to fly to or stay. If New Hampshire and Coastal Carolina had won this year, how would the Vegas stadium look with 8-10k fans in the stands?

I think Chatty rebid when it was back up a couple years ago.

[NDSUBowler]

I know, I know, the NCAA won't allow sanctioned events in the state of Nevada due to sports betting laws in place there but let me dream, dammit!

Sam Boyd Stadium (Las Vegas, NV) - capacity 36,800

http://svcdn.simpleviewinc.com/v2/cache/lasvegas/01E2828A9737C73B4A9D55FF99DD2403.jpg

Are bowl games not sanctioned NCAA events? Sam Boyd hosts a bowl game every year. I've been there for one (Arizona State vs Boise in Kellen Moore's final college game)

[Professor Chaos]

Are bowl games not sanctioned NCAA events? Sam Boyd hosts a bowl game every year. I've been there for one (Arizona State vs Boise in Kellen Moore's final college game)
No, they're not. The NCAA has little if any control over how bowl games are run. Sooner or later they're going to give in and allow events in Nevada though. There's already several conferences that play their conference basketball tournaments in Vegas that are very successful along with the Las Vegas Bowl every year.

[IndyBison]

Cheap flights, cheap hotels.... what could possibly go wrong financially? :biggrin:

You haven't been to Vegas lately. It's hard to find a flight under $400 and the large hotel/casinos are $150/night and more. I know airlines like Allegiant will have discounted fares, but they usually fly on specific days. And you could stay at a Super 8 or off the strip for $70-$80, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of going to Vegas? It's still a great destination location and would be popular for an event like this, but not because of cheap flights and cheap hotels.

[NDSUBowler]

You haven't been to Vegas lately. It's hard to find a flight under $400 and the large hotel/casinos are $150/night and more. I know airlines like Allegiant will have discounted fares, but they usually fly on specific days. And you could stay at a Super 8 or off the strip for $70-$80, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of going to Vegas? It's still a great destination location and would be popular for an event like this, but not because of cheap flights and cheap hotels.
You haven't been to Vegas during winter much then :)

I just spent 5 days there the week before Christmas at the Flamingo for $20/night (I was comped and only paid resort fees) but my friend got a room too and he wasn't comped and paid $45/night.

You can stay downtown (which is fairly alright now) for $20/night.

Heck, you can stay at Aria for $100/nt the week before Christmas.

New Years, the prices boom, and then they drop right back down again. As long as the game isn't scheduled on the same weekend as one of the massive conferences in Vegas, then the winter hotel prices will stay relatively low.

I remember a few years ago, before Caesars properties started charging resort fees again, a bunch of us each got 5 nights at the Flamingo for $30...TOTAL. $6/nt for a 2 queen room.

[MAKBison]

You haven't been to Vegas during winter much then :)

I just spent 5 days there the week before Christmas at the Flamingo for $20/night (I was comped and only paid resort fees) but my friend got a room too and he wasn't comped and paid $45/night.

You can stay downtown (which is fairly alright now) for $20/night.

Heck, you can stay at Aria for $100/nt the week before Christmas.

New Years, the prices boom, and then they drop right back down again. As long as the game isn't scheduled on the same weekend as one of the massive conferences in Vegas, then the winter hotel prices will stay relatively low.

I remember a few years ago, before Caesars properties started charging resort fees again, a bunch of us each got 5 nights at the Flamingo for $30...TOTAL. $6/nt for a 2 queen room.

I need to contact you the next time I go there, as I have not seen a room under $100 the last few times I have been there. Obviously I am doing something wrong

[Professor Chaos]

You haven't been to Vegas lately. It's hard to find a flight under $400 and the large hotel/casinos are $150/night and more. I know airlines like Allegiant will have discounted fares, but they usually fly on specific days. And you could stay at a Super 8 or off the strip for $70-$80, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of going to Vegas? It's still a great destination location and would be popular for an event like this, but not because of cheap flights and cheap hotels.
I was just in Vegas in August, I wish I could go every year but it doesn't always work out. Allegiant usually has Thursday, Friday, Sunday, and Monday turn and burn flights between Fargo and Vegas. Of course that's only one flight so it would fill up in a hurry. I use my Total Rewards card and can get cheap hotels with that. It's free and you don't need to gamble at all to use it (just to earn points on it). Just checked and I could get a fully comped room at the Rio Thursday-Sunday over championship weekend. It would be glorious but alas not an option.... yet.

And the best part would be that there's no reason to hesitate to book airline flights way early (like I was hesitant booking flights to DFW) because even if the Bison wouldn't make it there's always something to do in Vegas.

[tke]

Two years ago I spoke with the guy who is in charge of all NCAA tournaments (yes he did acknowledge he has the sweetest job in the world). He was very happy NDSU made it again and how it helped fill the stadium etc. He mentioned he thought the sweet spot was 25-30k stadium but they are harder to find in a metro for the game. It seems to be a size developers skip.

[MAKBison]

Two years ago I spoke with the guy who is in charge of all NCAA tournaments (yes he did acknowledge he has the sweetest job in the world). He was very happy NDSU made it again and how it helped fill the stadium etc. He mentioned he thought the sweet spot was 25-30k stadium but they are harder to find in a metro for the game. It seems to be a size developers skip.

That makes sense, The Teams that can afford them needed larger so they went larger. Teams that could not built smaller. How many cities like Frago are out there...... 20 years later need an extra 10K seats

[marenlee]

Gerald Ford Stadium (SMU) - 32,000 capacity. In the Dallas area!

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/smu/graphics/auto/Ford_01.jpg

[IndyBison]

Gerald Ford Stadium (SMU) - 32,000 capacity. In the Dallas area!

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/smu/graphics/auto/Ford_01.jpg

They just need a local sports organization willing to submit a proposal. The Frisco Sports Corp (or whatever their local sports organization is called that bids on events like this) would not want to host it here because that would not benefit their community. This stadium is in the Dallas city limits. It would likely have to be the same group that bids on Super Bowls, Final Fours, and football championships. It would be less enticing for them, but probably still big enough to consider. The Indianapolis Sports Corp is the group that bids on events in Indy. They got the Super Bowl but they also got the D3 Swimming championships last year. The FCS Championship would be big enough to consider, but they don't have a stadium that would be the right size.

[td577]

It may add up but an FCS game is going to be such a small dent in their cash flow/budget it's not going to make much difference. It probably helps cover the salaries of the guys you mention. I can also tell you those guys make less working for the NCAA than they could elsewhere. With a few exceptions at the top most NCAA staffers are underpaid. For example, an IT person who could make $70-$90k in the corporate world is probably making $50-$60k at the NCAA.

The FCS tournament is important to them but only in the same vein as the hockey tournament or women's softball tournament. It's probably more "valuable" than the D2 tennis tournament or D3 swim meet, but they have to allocate their resources to all those championships.

In the big picture, it probably isn't a big deal to the ncaa. There probably is some lowly staffer padding his resume squeezing every penny out of every event.

I just think the ancillary effect of having a 20k seat stadium and 30k demand right now is making the ncaa very happy and would be their ultimate dream scenario vs. a 30k stadium and 15k demand like non bison years. If it was completely up to them and they completely controlled the bids, that could very well be their parameters.

For this game the past four years, the national story had been the ticket frenzy. It has created the illusion FCS is the cat's ass. You would think the ncaa would also have a motive here to protect that image. The bonus is they aren't losing any money.

I'm not saying the secondary market is the only factor, it just had been a key factor in a lot of ncaa decisions over the past ten years ever since they got in bed with stub hub and the likes.

I wouldn't be surprised if players like stub hub aren't coaching potential bid sites.

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[MAKBison]

In the big picture, it probably isn't a big deal to the ncaa. There probably is some lowly staffer padding his resume squeezing every penny out of every event.

I just think the ancillary effect of having a 20k seat stadium and 30k demand right now is making the ncaa very happy and would be their ultimate dream scenario vs. a 30k stadium and 15k demand like non bison years. If it was completely up to them and they completely controlled the bids, that could very well be their parameters.

For this game the past four years, the national story had been the ticket frenzy. It has created the illusion FCS is the cat's ass. You would think the ncaa would also have a motive here to protect that image. The bonus is they aren't losing any money.

I'm not saying the secondary market is the only factor, it just had been a key factor in a lot of ncaa decisions over the past ten years ever since they got in bed with stub hub and the likes.

I wouldn't be surprised if players like stub hub aren't coaching potential bid sites.

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Quick fix demand in non bison years is more like 8K

[MAKBison]

I know the FargoDome host the national USA tournament. I wonder if they would ever bid on the natty?

[Bison 4 Life]

I know the FargoDome host the national USA tournament. I wonder if they would ever bid on the natty?

Nobody would ever want to come to Fargo in January.

[td577]

I know the FargoDome host the national USA tournament. I wonder if they would ever bid on the natty?

If the wait until June to play the game, perfect location.

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[MAKBison]

Nobody would ever want to come to Fargo in January.

Might be true! If the dome could do the whole expansion thing they are considering, the entire Frisco deal could be replicated inside (less tailgating). Also, less the NDSU years you are looking at less than 10k attendance. Not sure its worth it.