NDSU/ISU TV Ratings 8/30

[El_Chapo]

I just got my ratings book at work:


407K 12:00 PM NDSU/Iowa St. FS1

other 12pm game on ESPN had 2.9 MILLION UCLA/Virginia
other 12pm game on ESPN 2 had 1.8 MILLION APPY ST/MICHIGAN

157K 12:00 PM Western Michigan/Purdue ESPNU
112K 12:00 PM Indiana State/Indiana ESPNEWS

SO NDSU/ISU game was 3rd in the time slot behind 2 fbs matchup's.

[westnodak93bison]

And fs1 is a relatively new channel so not too bad

[NorthernBison]

FS1 viewership reflects only those people who intentionally tuned in for the game. I NEVER tune to that channel unless it is for something specific. I'll be shocked if it is around in two years. ESPN is in a different league.

[Loud and Proud Bison fan]

FS1 viewership reflects only those people who intentionally tuned in for the game. I NEVER tune to that channel unless it is for something specific. I'll be shocked if it is around in two years. ESPN is in a different league.

I hope not. I would like FoxSports to survive and rival ESPN. It only makes each station get better sports, coverage and commentators. I remember the days ESPN used to cover the go-putt-putt tournament, Magic the Gathering card game tournaments etc. I hope those things never see airtime again.

[El_Chapo]

i hope FS1 survives, it really helps college football.

[bisonmike2]

i hope FS1 survives, it really helps college football.

Completely agree with Lakes on this one. College football needs another nationwide network. Especially one that isn't scared to put a FBS/FCS matchup on the air.

[Bison 4 Life]

Fox has enough money to keep it going and get it on 1st tier which is how most basic cable networks survive.

[DakotaKid]

i hope FS1 survives, it really helps college football.

Agreed. Selfishly, I have to think most Bison fans feel the same way. The opening game for NDSU the past two seasons doesn't get on national TV if not for FS1. I don't watch that channel much any other time of year, but I enjoy the additional college football games they air. I'm sick of the same damn games aired on other networks.

[HerdBot]

The coastal Carolina game had 2 million and the championship games about a million. The lowest rated playoff game had more than Iowa State.

Impressive numbers for Iowa State but the playoffs garner more exposure

[El_Chapo]

agreed all around, thank you.

[JMB]

i hope FS1 survives, it really helps college football.
I agree completely. Competition is almost always good for consumers. I can never understand the gaming system fan boys who want X box or Sony to "win"...

[NorthernBison]

i hope FS1 survives, it really helps college football.
I don't disagree. I consider myself to be a fairly typical College football fan. I might have watched ONE game on that channel last year in addition to our KState game and I only watched our ISU game there so far this year. I NEVER watch their "SportsCenter" clone or much of anything else there. They have a tough road ahead of them.

[oldmantutters]

I like fs1, and for fans of the NHL their version of "sportscenter" is way better.

[Bison_Pride]

Week 2 NCAA Football TV Ratings

Rating Viewers Time Away Net
Thursday, September 4
0.3 425K 8:00 PM Arizona/UTSA FS1

Friday, September 5
1.2 1.87M 7:00 PM Pittsburgh/Boston College ESPN
0.8 1.22M 10:30 PM Washington St./Nevada ESPN

Saturday, September 6
4.1 6.54M 3:30 PM USC/Stanford ABC
3.5 5.98M 6:30 PM Michigan St./Oregon FOX
2.7 4.63M 7:30 PM Michigan/Notre Dame NBC
2.6 4.31M 8:00 PM Virginia Tech/Ohio State ESPN
2.1 3.19M 12:00 PM Oklahoma/Tulsa or Akron Penn State ABC
0.8 1.23M 12:00 PM Missouri/Toledo ESPN
0.7 1.13M 4:30 PM Mississippi/Vanderbilt ESPN
0.6 1.02M 7:00 PM San Jose St./Auburn ESPN2
0.5 976K 7:00 PM ECU/South Carolina ESPNU
0.5 959K 12:00 PM McNeese State/Nebraska ESPNU
0.5 910K 7:30 PM BYU/Texas FS1
0.4 686K 10:15 PM Colorado St./Boise St. ESPN2
0.4 605K 3:30 PM Ball State/Iowa ESPN2
0.4 596K 12:00 PM ABC reverse mirror ESPN2
0.4 596K 12:00 PM Kansas St./Iowa St. FS1
0.4 537K 3:30 PM Ohio/Kentucky ESPNU
0.3 447K 11:00 PM Texas Tech/UTEP FS1
0.2 304K 4:00 PM Georgia Tech/Tulane ESPNEWS
0.2 262K 10:15 PM Air Force/Wyoming ESPNU
0.2 223K 12:00 PM Cent. Michigan/Purdue ESPNEWS
0.1 260K 8:00 PM San Diego St./North Carolina ESPNEWS


Week 1 NCAA Football TV Ratings

Rating Viewers Time Away Net
Wednesday, August 27
0.2 287K 7:00 PM Abilene Christian/Ga. State ESPNU

Thursday, August 28
1.5 2.42M 8:00 PM Boise St./Mississippi ESPN
0.3 394K 10:00 PM Rutgers/Wash. St. FS1
0.1 168K 7:00 PM Wake Forest/UL-Monroe ESPNU

Friday, August 29
0.7 1.08M 7:00 PM BYU/UConn ESPN
0.7 955K 10:30 PM UNLV/Arizona ESPN
0.4 592K 9:00 PM Colorado St./Colorado FS1
0.1 221K 9:00 PM UTSA/Houston ESPNU

Saturday, August 30
4.0 6.40M 3:30 PM West Virginia/Alabama or Cal/Northwestern ABC
3.8 6.03M 8:00 PM FSU/Oklahoma St. ABC
2.8 4.68M 9:00 PM Wisconsin/LSU ESPN
2.3 3.95M 5:30 PM Clemson/Georgia ESPN
1.9 2.92M 12:00 PM UCLA/Virginia ESPN
1.3 2.10M 3:30 PM Rice/Notre Dame NBC
0.9 1.35M 7:30 PM Fresno St./USC FOX
0.9 1.29M 8:30 AM Penn St./UCF ESPN2
0.9 1.29M 12:00 PM Appalachian State/Michigan ESPN2
0.4 532K 3:30 PM ABC Reverse Mirror ESPN2
0.2 423K 7:00 PM Idaho/Florida ESPNU
0.2 407K 12:00 PM NDSU/Iowa St. FS1
0.2 373K 3:30 PM S. Dakota St./Missouri ESPNU
0.1 278K 4:00 PM William & Mary/Va. Tech ESPNEWS
0.1 157K 12:00 PM Western Michigan/Purdue ESPNU
0.1 112K 12:00 PM Indiana State/Indiana ESPNEWS
0.0 81K 8:00 PM N.C. Central/ECU ESPNEWS

Sunday, August 31
0.5 699K 11:45 AM Alabama A&M/N.C. A&T ESPN
0.4 762K 7:30 PM SMU/Baylor FS1

Monday, September 1
2.3 3.61M 8:00 PM Miami/Louisville ESPN

[scbison91]

FS1 viewership reflects only those people who intentionally tuned in for the game. I NEVER tune to that channel unless it is for something specific. I'll be shocked if it is around in two years. ESPN is in a different league. umm, cbssports and NBCsports survived with their programming, so I wouild think FS1 will survive.. Sports channels are fairly inexpensive to run and produce. No actors.

[NorthernBison]

umm, cbssports and NBCsports survived with their programming, so I wouild think FS1 will survive.. Sports channels are fairly inexpensive to run and produce. No actors.

I guess we will see. Those Networks haven't been around all that long either.

I watch more sports on TV than most and I simply don't find much there worth watching.

[Bisonator98]

I guess we will see. Those Networks haven't been around all that long either.

I watch more sports on TV than most and I simply don't find much there worth watching.

That's because they are still a fledgling live sports channel. It takes awhile to gain programming and traction when the competition has had a monopoly for 30 years.

[acf2]

I like fs1, and for fans of the NHL their version of "sportscenter" is way better.

You've got that right. FS1's sports show is far better.

[stevdock]

FS1 would be very smart to try and get a channel on Direct TV closer to ESPN. 205 or 210 would be perfect for them. The further they are away from ESPN the more people will forget about the channel. I will normally scroll from ESPN to MLB Network (206 to 213). If I don't find anything there, I'm jumping to another group of channels.

[NorthernBison]

That's because they are still a fledgling live sports channel. It takes awhile to gain programming and traction when the competition has had a monopoly for 30 years.

No shit Sherlock. That's a tough hill to climb. I don't believe their costs are low. You only get to throw red numbers so long before somebody pulls the plug.

In the meantime, ESPN is locking up all the best programming (see ties with SEC Network, etc).

I'm watching Monday Night Football on ESPN now while FS1 has Fox Sports Live and NBCSN has English Premier League Soccer. Tomorrow night ESPN has actual MLB. FS1 has UEFA Champions League Soccer (WTF is that?) and NBCSN has Minor League Baseball.

Go look at the Wednesday Primetime lineups if you really want a laugh. Holy crap for ugly.

[Bisonator98]

No shit Sherlock. That's a tough hill to climb. I don't believe their costs are low. You only get to throw red numbers so long before somebody pulls the plug.

In the meantime, ESPN is locking up all the best programming (see ties with SEC Network, etc).

I'm watching Monday Night Football on ESPN now while FS1 has Fox Sports Live and NBCSN has English Premier League Soccer. Tomorrow night ESPN has actual MLB. FS1 has UEFA Champions League Soccer (WTF is that?) and NBCSN has Minor League Baseball.

Go look at the Wednesday Primetime lineups if you really want a laugh. Holy crap for ugly.

ESPN's already had those contracts in place before FS1 was even a thought. Like I said it will take some time but eventually FS1 will start competing with them. Just like when FOX took the NFL away from CBS. Nothing stays the same forever, sherlock!

[NorthernBison]

ESPN's already had those contracts in place before FS1 was even a thought. Like I said it will take some time but eventually FS1 will start competing with them. Just like when FOX took the NFL away from CBS. Nothing stays the same forever, sherlock!
And like I said, you can only struggle so long before somebody pulls the plug. I use the guide on DirecTv all the time and I always scroll down to 219 and 220 to see what is on. FS1 never has anything worth watching. Unless you are really craving some soccer or UFC or maybe some hockey, forget it. NBC can at least shift some NHL that way at times (which tells you something about how popular that sport is). NBC has hitched their college football wagon to Notre Dame so they can't help out their sports network much. Heck, they can't even move golf there because of their ties to the Golf Channel. Duh, nothing stays the same forever. Yet, ESPN is growing faster than the upstarts. What does that tell you? They are closing doors and making sure they stay closed. FS1 and NBCSN hire on air people away form ESPN and they go right back to the Mother Ship. Wonder why that happens?

[Bisonator98]

And like I said, you can only struggle so long before somebody pulls the plug. I use the guide on DirecTv all the time and I always scroll down to 219 and 220 to see what is on. FS1 never has anything worth watching. Unless you are really craving some soccer or UFC or maybe some hockey, forget it. NBC can at least shift some NHL that way at times (which tells you something about how popular that sport is). NBC has hitched their college football wagon to Notre Dame so they can't help out their sports network much. Heck, they can't even move golf there because of their ties to the Golf Channel. Duh, nothing stays the same forever. Yet, ESPN is growing faster than the upstarts. What does that tell you? They are closing doors and making sure they stay closed. FS1 and NBCSN hire on air people away form ESPN and they go right back to the Mother Ship. Wonder why that happens?

You're right why even bother.

[NDSUBowler]

No shit Sherlock. That's a tough hill to climb. I don't believe their costs are low. You only get to throw red numbers so long before somebody pulls the plug.

In the meantime, ESPN is locking up all the best programming (see ties with SEC Network, etc).

I'm watching Monday Night Football on ESPN now while FS1 has Fox Sports Live and NBCSN has English Premier League Soccer. Tomorrow night ESPN has actual MLB. FS1 has UEFA Champions League Soccer (WTF is that?) and NBCSN has Minor League Baseball.

Go look at the Wednesday Primetime lineups if you really want a laugh. Holy crap for ugly.
UEFA Champions League is only the 2nd most important soccer tourney after the World Cup. Way more prestigious than anything in the Premier League.

Just because you don't know about it doesn't make it inferior (which seemed to be the tone of your post). I'll watch any random CL game over any random MLB game.

[NorthernBison]

You're right why even bother.
Hey, you're the one who was all duckies and bunnies about how easy it would be for them to succeed. Just give it time right? I'll wait and see how patient the people paying the bills are. My original comment was only that I will be surprised if they can hang in there without programming that the masses want to watch. BTW, I'm not hoping they fail. I'm just disappointed at the product they put out after all the hoopla at startup.

[NorthernBison]

UEFA Champions League is only the 2nd most important soccer tourney after the World Cup. Way more prestigious than anything in the Premier League.

Just because you don't know about it doesn't make it inferior (which seemed to be the tone of your post). I'll watch any random CL game over any random MLB game.
Gee, maybe ESPN should dump MLB and pick up UEFA if it's so darn popular. NOT. Cripes, soccer doesn't move the needle in the USA. Nobody really cares about the stupid game here. Certainly not enough to make a national network relevant. If the primetime regular programming is typically soccer or MMA, the Network will not make it.

[tjamz]

Hey, you're the one who was all duckies and bunnies about how easy it would be for them to succeed. Just give it time right? I'll wait and see how patient the people paying the bills are. My original comment was only that I will be surprised if they can hang in there without programming that the masses want to watch. BTW, I'm not hoping they fail. I'm just disappointed at the product they put out after all the hoopla at startup.

I'd have to think that Fox management would know what contracts currently exist in the sporting world and when those contracts come up for renewal. Right now they are laying the foundation of niche sports to round out their schedule as these more lucrative sports contracts come up for bid again. ESPN was smart in helping some of the P5 conferences start their own networks, essentially guaranteeing them a piece of the pie. I see Fox actively trying to do the same thing in the near future with whatever remaining conferences in the P5 that are left and then even on to the G5 conferences.

[tony]

Hey, you're the one who was all duckies and bunnies about how easy it would be for them to succeed. Just give it time right? I'll wait and see how patient the people paying the bills are. My original comment was only that I will be surprised if they can hang in there without programming that the masses want to watch. BTW, I'm not hoping they fail. I'm just disappointed at the product they put out after all the hoopla at startup.

Hmm. I wonder if Murdoch already has rights to a lot of that content (like UEFA) for his European networks. If so, that's pretty cheap content.

[344Johnson]

Gee, maybe ESPN should dump MLB and pick up UEFA if it's so darn popular. NOT. Cripes, soccer doesn't move the needle in the USA. Nobody really cares about the stupid game here. Certainly not enough to make a national network relevant. If the primetime regular programming is typically soccer or MMA, the Network will not make it.

European soccer is getting more popular especially with young people.... Champions League puts the best teams from across Europe into a very compelling tourney.

I'm guessing you are somewhere north of 40.... Times change. Viewer numbers since 2002 final grew over 600% to the 2012 final. Don't know if any other sports are tending similarly.

[NorthernBison]

European soccer is getting more popular especially with young people.... Champions League puts the best teams from across Europe into a very compelling tourney.

I'm guessing you are somewhere north of 40.... Times change. Viewer numbers since 2002 final grew over 600% to the 2012 final. Don't know if any other sports are tending similarly.
I guess we'll have to see. You are an expert with small numbers though so you should understand how unimportant that 600% really is.

[344Johnson]

I guess we'll have to see. You are an expert with small numbers though so you should understand how unimportant that 600% really is.

Do some reading.... Look at how it is doing with young men. It's growing. If you ran a sports network trying to break into the hold ESPN has... Wouldn't it be logical to go after programming experiencing very large growth especially among young males?

Not to mention... It's getting these numbers during the day... Since they play the games live. They can do other stuff during the evening when everyone is getting home.

[344Johnson]

Passionate subject for me obviously.

[tjamz]

Do some reading.... Look at how it is doing with young men. It's growing. If you ran a sports network trying to break into the hold ESPN has... Wouldn't it be logical to go after programming experiencing very large growth especially among young males?

Not to mention... It's getting these numbers during the day... Since they play the games live. They can do other stuff during the evening when everyone is getting home.

There is no doubt that soccer is gaining popularity, it honestly had to from where it was in this country. I've always enjoyed PLAYING soccer, but watching a game, even a World Cup game is possibly the most boring sport I've ever watched.

I'm willing to bet over 50% of Americans can name at least 5 NFL teams, I'm also willing to bet that if you asked the general public to name one MLS team most would fail. Others would say Manchester United, Chelsea or some other English Premier League team. (the only one I know from MLS is FC Dallas and that's only because of Frisco trips)

[344Johnson]

There is no doubt that soccer is gaining popularity, it honestly had to from where it was in this country. I've always enjoyed PLAYING soccer, but watching a game, even a World Cup game is possibly the most boring sport I've ever watched.

I'm willing to bet over 50% of Americans can name at least 5 NFL teams, I'm also willing to bet that if you asked the general public to name one MLS team most would fail. Others would say Manchester United, Chelsea or some other English Premier League team. (the only one I know from MLS is FC Dallas and that's only because of Frisco trips)

And I don't see that necessarily changing in your age group. Men in their late 30's and older aren't going to just suddenly like watching.

If the trend continues with young men enjoying it... And those young men grow up and continue to enjoy it and have children who grow up in households that watch it... I think that would make it a very very good thing to have as a network.

We didn't have champions league or premier league in my house growing up. Heck none of my friends really knew the rules until someone bought FIFA at a used video game store.

Several of us are now watching weekly which is more than we can say for baseball.

[NorthernBison]

The same predictions have been trotted out since Pele. I'm not holding my breath. Baseball HAS slipped. I also see issues for the NFL if they continue to "pussify" the game with all the restrictive rules and insist their players come across as Boy Scouts. That just might be what soccer needs to become relevant (along with all the immigrants coming here from places that love the game). Of course, then it really won't matter because, economically, we won't be anything close to what we are now. BTW, that's not a political statement. It's more an observation regarding the economies of the countries that love the game the most. It's pretty much a Third World game run by an incredibly corrupt group of people (see World Cup scandals).

[mnriverbison]

The same predictions have been trotted out since Pele. I'm not holding my breath. Baseball HAS slipped. I also see issues for the NFL if they continue to "pussify" the game with all the restrictive rules and insist their players come across as Boy Scouts. That just might be what soccer needs to become relevant (along with all the immigrants coming here from places that love the game). Of course, then it really won't matter because, economically, we won't be anything close to what we are now. BTW, that's not a political statement. It's more an observation regarding the economies of the countries that love the game the most. It's pretty much a Third World game run by an incredibly corrupt group of people (see World Cup scandals).

Hilarious that fans of an NCAA FCS message board would decry a sport because of corrupt management (NCAA) and small-time tv appeal (FCS).

That growth in soccer is really unprecedented in US sporting TV history. A national TV non-starter like 5 years ago now the EPL rights have sold for $250 MILLION to NBC and FS1 would be wise to outbid them next time. My only beef with the talk here is that UEFA will never be as valuable as EPL as a media property because EPL runs weekend mornings while EUFA is almost exclusively while people are working. EPL is the property to watch and it will be up for bid again soon. Let's see how many lifetimes of FCS playoffs you could buy for 3 years of EPL rights LOL.

It really doesn't matter if old, largely exurban and rural white men don't like it or think it's too "pussified" or "foreign". It isn't meant to appeal to you and they don't expect you to watch. It's like whining that you don't like Taylor Swift or Kanye West. Of course you don't like that stuff they don't make it for you any more than they make it for their goldfish. Also-that group of largely rural/exurban white men is the most increasingly irrelevant demographic in the United States for media so I guess groan all you want...The people they want, the under 35 crowd, they are getting. Those kids are more globally connected and open minded now than we will ever be.

[mnriverbison]

The same predictions have been trotted out since Pele. I'm not holding my breath. Baseball HAS slipped. I also see issues for the NFL if they continue to "pussify" the game with all the restrictive rules and insist their players come across as Boy Scouts. That just might be what soccer needs to become relevant (along with all the immigrants coming here from places that love the game). Of course, then it really won't matter because, economically, we won't be anything close to what we are now. BTW, that's not a political statement. It's more an observation regarding the economies of the countries that love the game the most. It's pretty much a Third World game run by an incredibly corrupt group of people (see World Cup scandals).

Also your latent racism is showing. Where do you think the white immigrants (our grandparents) came from, wealth and comfort? Of course not. They left desolate situations in Europe. I'm really surprised that you don't like soccer. I've even heard pussies and girls and dark third world foreigners play. Please tell me more.

[NorthernBison]

Hilarious that fans of an NCAA FCS message board would decry a sport because of corrupt management (NCAA) and small-time tv appeal (FCS).

That growth in soccer is really unprecedented in US sporting TV history. A national TV non-starter like 5 years ago now the EPL rights have sold for $250 MILLION to NBC and FS1 would be wise to outbid them next time. My only beef with the talk here is that UEFA will never be as valuable as EPL as a media property because EPL runs weekend mornings while EUFA is almost exclusively while people are working. EPL is the property to watch and it will be up for bid again soon. Let's see how many lifetimes of FCS playoffs you could buy for 3 years of EPL rights LOL.

It really doesn't matter if old, largely exurban and rural white men don't like it or think it's too "pussified" or "foreign". It isn't meant to appeal to you and they don't expect you to watch. It's like whining that you don't like Taylor Swift or Kanye West. Of course you don't like that stuff they don't make it for you any more than they make it for their goldfish. Also-that group of largely rural/exurban white men is the most increasingly irrelevant demographic in the United States for media so I guess groan all you want...The people they want, the under 35 crowd, they are getting. Those kids are more globally connected and open minded now than we will ever be.
LMFAO. You think $250 Million is a lot of money? Really? There's quite a bit wrong with all your blather. I'm not even sure where to start. Why did you bring FCS into it? FCS isn't a big draw for any network (hence the time ESPN gives it). You, apparently, don't read real well either because some of your references don't have any application to what I posted. Oh well, I can't help that. My original point still stands. FS1 and the other "new" Networks are simply not going to be around long if they don't start offering something more interesting to the masses than soccer and MMA. BTW, I think the NFL deals are like $40 Billion (yes, that's a B). A little perspective on what matters to the American Sporting public.

[NDSUstudent]

Well Fox did buy the rights to the US Open(golf), I think FS1 will get coverage of the first few rounds.

I think FS1 will get more content but it is going to take time to pick up contracts.

[Mayville Bison]

LMFAO. You think $250 Million is a lot of money? Really? There's quite a bit wrong with all your blather. I'm not even sure where to start. Why did you bring FCS into it? FCS isn't a big draw for any network (hence the time ESPN gives it). You, apparently, don't read real well either because some of your references don't have any application to what I posted. Oh well, I can't help that. My original point still stands. FS1 and the other "new" Networks are simply not going to be around long if they don't start offering something more interesting to the masses than soccer and MMA. BTW, I think the NFL deals are like $40 Billion (yes, that's a B). A little perspective on what matters to the American Sporting public.

I agree with your view on this. The non-ESPNs are going to have to be very aggressive with any future open contracts as they need something compelling to draw viewers.

That being said, I thought mn's comparison was pretty good. We, as fans of an fcs football team, want more and more to see our favorite team on national tv while it doesn't interest the mainstream public. Why is it ok to ask for that, but when a sport that's gaining popularity (yes, I understand 1>0) gets tv time it means the network hosting that sport will eventually lose?

[NorthernBison]

I agree with your view on this. The non-ESPNs are going to have to be very aggressive with any future open contracts as they need something compelling to draw viewers.

That being said, I thought mn's comparison was pretty good. We, as fans of an fcs football team, want more and more to see our favorite team on national tv while it doesn't interest the mainstream public. Why is it ok to ask for that, but when a sport that's gaining popularity (yes, I understand 1>0) gets tv time it means the network hosting that sport will eventually lose?
What was it? Something like 400,000 people watched the ISU/NDSU game? I'll bet half or more of them were Bison fans and 90% of THEM will not tune in FS1 again for a very very long time. That football game is directly comparable to soccer in terms of widespread interest. You can find some soccer coverage on ESPN and you can find Poker on ESPN. The KEY is that you don't find those things very often in Prime Time. FS1's Prime Time programming is a huge red flag. Just like when I drive by a farm equipment dealership and see a lot full of used equipment. Red Flags fly and flashing red lights go off in my head. Somebody is going broke even if they haven't realized it yet. Things need to change quickly. If you read my previous posts you will see that I agree that these new networks can be good for college football and I don't want them to fail. I just haven't seen them offering any decent programming. What I get is hockey and soccer fans trying to tell me how I don't understand how popular their sports are. Ok, whatever. Yawn.

[tjamz]

Several of us are now watching weekly which is more than we can say for baseball.

I'll give you that. I've watched more soccer on tv in the last 5 years than baseball.

I kind of equate soccer's world wide following vs in the usa to that of Formula 1. The international soccer leagues are superior to MLS and F1 is superior to NASCAR on a global level, but most American's refuse to watch it.

[CyPanth]

I just got my ratings book at work:

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Wait, what? Lakes has a job?