Week 2 polls (9/1/14)

[Hammersmith]

AGS is out, media and coaches not up yet. (The media poll has updated the records but not the votes, so don't freak out if you search and see EWU as #1.)


AnyGivenSaturday.com Fan Poll

1 North Dakota State Bison 2056 (67)
2 Eastern Washington Eagles 1982 (16)
3 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 1842
4 Northern Iowa Panthers 1671
5 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 1560
6 New Hampshire Wildcats 1473
7 Villanova Wildcats 1432
8 Montana Grizzlies 1388
9T Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1254
9T Fordham Rams 1254
11 McNeese State Cowboys 1209
12 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1170
13 Richmond Spiders 927
14 Furman Paladins 889
15 Chattanooga Mocs 859
16 Tennessee State Tigers 606
17 Sam Houston State Bearkats 602
18 William & Mary Tribe 568
19 Eastern Illinois Panthers 549
20 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 488
21 Southern Illinois Salukis 449
22 Maine Black Bears 389
23 Youngstown State Penguins 367
24 Central Arkansas Bears 337
25 Montana State Bobcats 290


Most Significant Win:
North Dakota State Bison

Most Significant Loss:
Towson Tigers

ORV:
26 Towson Tigers 238
27 Central Connecticut State Blue Devils 109
28 Cal Poly Mustangs 105
29 Princeton Tigers 104
30 Wofford Terriers 102
31 Liberty Flames 92
32 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 67
33 Missouri State Bears 64
34 Sacred Heart Pioneers 51
35 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 50
36 Charleston Southern Buccaneers 39
37 South Carolina State Bulldogs 35
38 James Madison Dukes 32
39 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 30
40 Monmouth Hawks 26

[Bison 4 Life]

I agree with this. I'm waiting for more commentary before I jump in all homery on AGS but I think with the total domination of ISU and another ridiculous Madden game by EWU, as soon as they meet a defense, they are toast.

[Hammersmith]

Media poll up.

TheSportsNetwork.com media poll

1. North Dakota State Bison (93) 1-0 3830 2
2. Eastern Washington Eagles (63) 2-0 3804 1
3. Southeastern Louisiana Lions 1-0 3553 3
4. Montana Grizzlies 0-1 3064 5
5. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 1-0 3028 7
6. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-1 2998 4
7. McNeese State Cowboys 0-0 2661 8
8. Northern Iowa Panthers 0-1 2634 9
9. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 0-1 2580 6
10. Villanova Wildcats 0-1 2488 12
11. Fordham Rams 1-0 2423 11
12. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-1 2242 10
13. Chattanooga Mocs 0-1 1793 14
14. Tennessee State Tigers 1-0 1701 15
15. Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-1 1484 17
16. Eastern Illinois Panthers 0-1 1402 16
17. Richmond Spiders 1-0 1323 20
18. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 1-0 1109 22
19. Furman Paladins 1-0 1004 21
20. Montana State Bobcats 0-1 965 18
21. William & Mary Tribe 0-1 945 19
22. Towson Tigers 0-1 829 13
23. Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 540 24
24. Maine Black Bears 1-0 469 25
25. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 0-1 352 23

Others receiving votes: Southern Illinois 323, South Carolina State 176, Liberty 141, Central Arkansas 126, Central Connecticut State 107, Wofford 94, Princeton 64, Samford 62, Cal Poly 54, Delaware 44, Harvard 42, James Madison 37, Southern Utah 37, Charleston Southern 23, Gardner-Webb 19, Missouri State 15, Alcorn State 13, Sacred Heart 12, North Carolina A&T 12, Stephen F. Austin 11, Southern 10, Alabama State 9, Illinois State 9, Eastern Kentucky 8, Lehigh 7, Southeast Missouri State 7, Western Illinois 6, Duquesne 3, Bryant 2, Norfolk State 2, San Diego 1, Sacramento State 1, Indiana State 1, Murray State 1.

[NDSUstudent]

NDSU #1 in coaches poll, just released on ESPNU. They just talked up NDSU football for a few minutes.

[scbison91]

NDSU #1 in coaches poll, just released on ESPNU. They just talked up NDSU football for a few minutes. Even got Jason Sehorn to say what NDSU has done as impressive.. To get a compliment out of him is difficult..

[bruinbison]

Media poll up.

TheSportsNetwork.com media poll

1. North Dakota State Bison (93) 1-0 3830 2
2. Eastern Washington Eagles (63) 2-0 3804 1
3. Southeastern Louisiana Lions 1-0 3553 3
4. Montana Grizzlies 0-1 3064 5
5. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 1-0 3028 7
6. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-1 2998 4
7. McNeese State Cowboys 0-0 2661 8
8. Northern Iowa Panthers 0-1 2634 9
9. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 0-1 2580 6
10. Villanova Wildcats 0-1 2488 12
11. Fordham Rams 1-0 2423 11
12. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-1 2242 10
13. Chattanooga Mocs 0-1 1793 14
14. Tennessee State Tigers 1-0 1701 15
15. Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-1 1484 17
16. Eastern Illinois Panthers 0-1 1402 16
17. Richmond Spiders 1-0 1323 20
18. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 1-0 1109 22
19. Furman Paladins 1-0 1004 21
20. Montana State Bobcats 0-1 965 18
21. William & Mary Tribe 0-1 945 19
22. Towson Tigers 0-1 829 13
23. Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 540 24
24. Maine Black Bears 1-0 469 25
25. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 0-1 352 23

Others receiving votes: Southern Illinois 323, South Carolina State 176, Liberty 141, Central Arkansas 126, Central Connecticut State 107, Wofford 94, Princeton 64, Samford 62, Cal Poly 54, Delaware 44, Harvard 42, James Madison 37, Southern Utah 37, Charleston Southern 23, Gardner-Webb 19, Missouri State 15, Alcorn State 13, Sacred Heart 12, North Carolina A&T 12, Stephen F. Austin 11, Southern 10, Alabama State 9, Illinois State 9, Eastern Kentucky 8, Lehigh 7, Southeast Missouri State 7, Western Illinois 6, Duquesne 3, Bryant 2, Norfolk State 2, San Diego 1, Sacramento State 1, Indiana State 1, Murray State 1.



Craig Haley also had this to say about the rankings (process) for The Sports Network:



- One of the great questions of the preseason was whether Eastern Washington's veteran squad deserved to be ranked No. 1 over North Dakota State, which entered the season on a 24-game roll and coming off a third straight national title but had to replace 12 starters, 24 seniors and its head coach. The voters in The Sports Network FCS Top 25 did just that, giving EWU 82 first- place votes over NDSU's 62. But it's apparent the composed Bison, who blasted Iowa State, should be ranked No. 1 until they are beaten.


http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/writers/infcshuddle/archive/haley_8_31_2014.htm

Also:



- North Dakota State's Chris Klieman had to share the nod for the most impressive win of the weekend by a new head coach. Central Connecticut State. coming off a 4-8 season, won at 2013 FCS national runner-up Towson, 31-27, in Pete Rossomando's debut.


And also:



On this opening weekend of the 2014 college football season, the gap was evident. FCS teams were humbled by the FBS, winning only two of the 46 meetings between the two levels of Division I football.


Enjoy the ride Bison fans!!!

[IBleedYellow]

Someone over on AGS is trying to argue that NDSU shouldn't be #1.

Just silly.

[Bison 4 Life]

Someone over on AGS is trying to argue that NDSU shouldn't be #1.

Just silly.

Rev's a pretty level headed guy. That's why I didn't want to get into it right away. There are way too many people impressed with EWU but what happened when their tank ran out of gas last year?

[stevdock]

I think you could make the case that EWU did enough to keep the #1 spot, especially if you voted them #1 to start the season. They beat a top 15 team by 20 and blew out either a D2 or NAIA. What kind of ISU team did we beat?? Let's hope they have a recovery somewhat close to KSU last year.

[Bison 4 Life]

I think you could make the case that EWU did enough to keep the #1 spot, especially if you voted them #1 to start the season. They beat a top 15 team by 20 and blew out either a D2 or NAIA. What kind of ISU team did we beat?? Let's hope they have a recovery somewhat close to KSU last year.

We beat an ISU team that had a distinct advantage in many areas.

To me what happened was a correction. Usually the NC would get the #1 spot in the preseason but too many were put off by the loss of starters and coaches. It looks to me that we are back to where we all were last year. Remember when EWU played that high scoring game at Oregon State? Turns out as soon as they get someone to play D, they aren't quite as good.

[stevdock]

We beat an ISU team that had a distinct advantage in many areas.

To me what happened was a correction. Usually the NC would get the #1 spot in the preseason but too many were put off by the loss of starters and coaches. It looks to me that we are back to where we all were last year. Remember when EWU played that high scoring game at Oregon State? Turns out as soon as they get someone to play D, they aren't quite as good.

Oh I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying you could make the case to keep them #1. I thought Rev saying SELA could be #1 also was a stretch though.

[SDbison]

[QUOTE=IBleedYellow;904295]Someone over on AGS is trying to argue that NDSU shouldn't be #1.

Just silly.[/QUOTEin a c] I would give my left nut to be playing EWU instead of Montana in the dome in a few weeks. The Bison would absolutely crush those endzone celebrating hot dogs that don't even know how to play defense.

[Tatanka]

Someone over on AGS is trying to argue that NDSU shouldn't be #1.

Just silly. I would give my left nut to be playing EWU instead of Montana in the dome in a few weeks. The Bison would absolutely crush those endzone celebrating hot dogs that don't even know how to play defense.

Without a doubt.

[Bison 4 Life]

Oh I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying you could make the case to keep them #1. I thought Rev saying SELA could be #1 also was a stretch though.

Southland guys stick together. I'm completely unconvinced of SELA's quality, was last year too. Transfers don't impress me much.

[NDSUstudent]

If there was no such thing as preseason polls...how many first place votes would EWU even have in this poll?

[HerdBot]

The 1 or 2 spots really don't mean much since we would be in opposite brackets anyways

Did I see that correctly, Towson lost to Central Connecticut State? Wow.

[MNLonghorn10]

wait.

towson lost to Central Connecticut State? LMFAO

I knew Towson was going to be average after West left. but holy shit. Thats awesome.

[tjbison]

The 1 or 2 spots really don't mean much since we would be in opposite brackets anyways

Did I see that correctly, Towson lost to Central Connecticut State? Wow.

meh, expected....outside of west Towson was not great, they finally played a defense and we shut them down

[HerdBoy]

#6 New Hampshire got pummeled by Toledo 54-20. Come on FCS.

[Hammersmith]

Coaches is finally out.

FCS Coaches Poll

1. North Dakota State (24) 647
2. Eastern Washington (2) 626
3. Southeastern La. 598
4. Coastal Carolina 540
5. Montana 495
6. McNeese State 452
7. Villanova 445
8. New Hampshire 426
9. Jacksonville State 413
10. Fordham 360
11. South Dakota State 341
12. Northern Iowa 327
13. Sam Houston State 323
14. Eastern Illinois 289
15. Chattanooga 278
16. Tennessee State 234
17. Furman 229
18. Bethune-Cookman 216
19. Towson 193
20. Richmond 174
21. Youngtown State 147
22. Maine 144
23. Montana State 128
24. William & Mary 80
25. Southern Illinois 49

Others receiving votes: Central Arkansas 38, Northern Arizona 35, Liberty 25, Missouri State 24, South Carolina State 23, Wofford 20, Southern Utah 19, Samford 15, Central Connecticut State 13, Princeton 11, Bryant 10, Eastern Kentucky 10, Cal Poly 8, Abilene Christian 7, Alcorn State 7, Harvard 7, Charleston Southern 5, Jackson State 4, Lehigh 4, Sacramento State 4, Western Illinois 3, James Madison 2, Delaware 1, North Carolina A&T 1

[tjbison]

were we the only FBS win from the FCS this week?

[Tatanka]

Coaches is finally out.

FCS Coaches Poll

1. North Dakota State (24) 647
2. Eastern Washington (2) 626
3. Southeastern La. 598
4. Coastal Carolina 540
5. Montana 495
6. McNeese State 452
7. Villanova 445
8. New Hampshire 426
9. Jacksonville State 413
10. Fordham 360
11. South Dakota State 341
12. Northern Iowa 327
13. Sam Houston State 323
14. Eastern Illinois 289
15. Chattanooga 278
16. Tennessee State 234
17. Furman 229
18. Bethune-Cookman 216
19. Towson 193
20. Richmond 174
21. Youngtown State 147
22. Maine 144
23. Montana State 128
24. William & Mary 80
25. Southern Illinois 49

Others receiving votes: Central Arkansas 38, Northern Arizona 35, Liberty 25, Missouri State 24, South Carolina State 23, Wofford 20, Southern Utah 19, Samford 15, Central Connecticut State 13, Princeton 11, Bryant 10, Eastern Kentucky 10, Cal Poly 8, Abilene Christian 7, Alcorn State 7, Harvard 7, Charleston Southern 5, Jackson State 4, Lehigh 4, Sacramento State 4, Western Illinois 3, James Madison 2, Delaware 1, North Carolina A&T 1

LOL. 24 coaches pick NDSU #1. One had them at #2, and one had them at #3. Wow, just wow.

EDIT: Meant to say "coaches" (with the air quotes)

[Hammersmith]

Interesting fact: Fully half the MVFC is a consensus top-26. (would be top-25 if not for media)

[Tatanka]

Interesting fact: Fully half the MVFC is a consensus top-26. (would be top-25 if not for media)

but, but, but, but, but, but....

[HerdBoy]

were we the only FBS win from the FCS this week?

Bethune-Cookman beat Florida International 14-12.

[yopaulie]

Bethune-Cookman beat Florida International 14-12.

That's a nice win for them.

[MNLonghorn10]

since 2011, how many weeks has NDSU been #1?

its gotta be like 32/37 or something. They shoulda been at or near #1 after the Minnesota win. then 1 or 2 weeks after the YSU/ISUb hiccups

[Bison 4 Life]

since 2011, how many weeks has NDSU been #1?

its gotta be like 32/37 or something. They shoulda been at or near #1 after the Minnesota win. then 1 or 2 weeks after the YSU/ISUb hiccups

2011 was tricky because GSU and Sam Houston were both up there for a long time. NDSU didn't take the top spot until near the end of the season. Solid #2 but not #1 for most of it. In 2012 they were out for 3 weeks after the ISUb loss and then wire to wire in 2013.

This is the AGS poll, widely considered the most accurate.

[westnodak93bison]

[QUOTE=IBleedYellow;904295]Someone over on AGS is trying to argue that NDSU shouldn't be #1.

Just silly.[/QUOTEin a c] I would give my left nut to be playing EWU instead of Montana in the dome in a few weeks. The Bison would absolutely crush those endzone celebrating hot dogs that don't even know how to play defense.
"Hotdog" lmao, I thought that was a term only used by old farts from my home town. I always loved that one.

[THEsocalledfan]

Media poll up.

TheSportsNetwork.com media poll

1. North Dakota State Bison (93) 1-0 3830 2
2. Eastern Washington Eagles (63) 2-0 3804 1
3. Southeastern Louisiana Lions 1-0 3553 3
4. Montana Grizzlies 0-1 3064 5
5. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 1-0 3028 7
6. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-1 2998 4
7. McNeese State Cowboys 0-0 2661 8
8. Northern Iowa Panthers 0-1 2634 9
9. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 0-1 2580 6
10. Villanova Wildcats 0-1 2488 12
11. Fordham Rams 1-0 2423 11
12. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 0-1 2242 10
13. Chattanooga Mocs 0-1 1793 14
14. Tennessee State Tigers 1-0 1701 15
15. Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-1 1484 17
16. Eastern Illinois Panthers 0-1 1402 16
17. Richmond Spiders 1-0 1323 20
18. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 1-0 1109 22
19. Furman Paladins 1-0 1004 21
20. Montana State Bobcats 0-1 965 18
21. William & Mary Tribe 0-1 945 19
22. Towson Tigers 0-1 829 13
23. Youngstown State Penguins 0-1 540 24
24. Maine Black Bears 1-0 469 25
25. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 0-1 352 23

Others receiving votes: Southern Illinois 323, South Carolina State 176, Liberty 141, Central Arkansas 126, Central Connecticut State 107, Wofford 94, Princeton 64, Samford 62, Cal Poly 54, Delaware 44, Harvard 42, James Madison 37, Southern Utah 37, Charleston Southern 23, Gardner-Webb 19, Missouri State 15, Alcorn State 13, Sacred Heart 12, North Carolina A&T 12, Stephen F. Austin 11, Southern 10, Alabama State 9, Illinois State 9, Eastern Kentucky 8, Lehigh 7, Southeast Missouri State 7, Western Illinois 6, Duquesne 3, Bryant 2, Norfolk State 2, San Diego 1, Sacramento State 1, Indiana State 1, Murray State 1.

Well, now I know their are at least 63 morons who work in the media and must think we are the community college form up north....

Let's be blunt, anyone who does not have NDSU #1 is a flipping moron.

[HerdBoy]

It will be interesting to see how EWU does against #25 Washington.

[thebootfitter]

It will be interesting to see how EWU does against #25 Washington.
UW Huskies looked mediocre against Hawaii. I plan to go to the UW-EWU game, and I'm expecting them to have a chance. Now, if EWU still looks sloppy and UW clean up their game... Could get ugly.

[MrSnuffleupagus]

Was there any doubt though?

http://gobison.com/news/2014/9/1/FB_0901143835.aspx

[MAKBison]

How is that....did you watch that game? That game goes the other way if the Qb connects on wide open WRs.


I think you could make the case that EWU did enough to keep the #1 spot, especially if you voted them #1 to start the season. They beat a top 15 team by 20 and blew out either a D2 or NAIA. What kind of ISU team did we beat?? Let's hope they have a recovery somewhat close to KSU last year.

[BisoninNWMN]

EWU has a crappy defense. I hope we get to play them this year.

[natstar1]

do we need a thread for every poll?

[BisoninNWMN]

do we need a thread for every poll?


So what??

Don't open then...:bleh:

[natstar1]

So what??

Don't open then...:bleh:
football forum is already super cluttered, not to mention it makes it harder to find information when it is spread out amongst many threads

edit: thanks for moving the thread

[Bison bison]

What say you?

[Bisonguy]

FYI- Duplicate threads merged.

[StL Bison Fan]

Is there limits to how many threads one can start? Perhaps we can use priority points :)

[roadwarrior]

Starting a new thread actually USES up one priority point.

[StL Bison Fan]

Starting a new thread actually USES up one priority point.

Sounds good.
How many do we give up if we talk about going fbs in a non FBS thread?

[Bison bison]

Don't I have like 50,000 Bisonville points from American Express? TSCF???

[strikesgold]

I think we should also have a poll in every thread.

[CaBisonFan]

Let's form a committee to discuss this...:biggrin:

[Bisonguy]

Whoops. Looks like I merged the poll about polls into this thread about polls that already had a duplicate thread about polls merged into it instead of just moving the poll about polls to the proper suggestions and announcements forum.

Guess it's a super poll thread now.

[Hammersmith]

Great. Now I'm going to get blamed for this. People are going to think I'm like NDB2. What the hell did I ever do to you?


;)

[Bison bison]

Whoops. Looks like I merged the poll about polls into this thread about polls that already had a duplicate thread about polls merged into it instead of just moving the poll about polls to the proper suggestions and announcements forum.

Guess it's a super poll thread now.

Well no one ever said Bisonville was well moderated.

[MNLonghorn10]

do we need a thread for every poll?

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?26053-Perspective-before-Saturday-s-game

this is the thread bumped to page 2 that you missed out on.


you're welcome

[Bisonguy]

Well no one ever said Bisonville was well moderated.


Ain't that the truth. It's either under-moderated or over-moderated. :hide:

[StL Bison Fan]

Whoops. Looks like I merged the poll about polls into this thread about polls that already had a duplicate thread about polls merged into it instead of just moving the poll about polls to the proper suggestions and announcements forum.

Guess it's a super poll thread now.

I'm not going to get concerned about this until it's confirmed.

[onbison09]

Bethune-Cookman beat Florida International 14-12.
2nd year in a row. FIU is awful

[westnodak93bison]

2nd year in a row. FIU is awful
Pffft. They are FBS!

[scottietohottie]

NDSU should be at the top of every poll until someone beats them. 3 Time Defending Champs. Also in North Dakota Bison fans should be considered the champs until someone else in North Dakota beats them. The who fans should have to hold doors open for Bison fans and yield the right away.

[Bison 4 Life]

Looks like I got completely outhomered on AGS by our resident UNI fan......


My top 4 didn't change from the preseason

1. UNI
2. EWU
3. NDSU
4. SLU

Though I thought long and hard about swapping EWU and NDSU....and I see my first place UNI vote doesn't count - thanks Ursus...or Obama...either one

I am not completely discounting last season but I'm focusing on going forward. NDSU proved a lot to me over the weekend but while others have said there are other FCS teams that "could" have done the same I 100% UNI and EWU WOULD have done the same. If UNI and NDSU swapped opponents I'd bet the results would have been similar as they turned out. EWU likely scores more points but I'm not sure they hold Iowa State under 35.... I'm long on record as saying Iowa State is a **** program and likely would be lucky to crack the top 20-25 in the FCS.

In my eyes what UNI showed me on Saturday was/is more impressive than what EWU or NDSU has shown me this season, especially based on expectations. I have UNI to win the MVFC and based on what I saw I stand by that. Why would I rank a team higher in a national poll vs another team than I do in the conference poll at this point?


The more I think about it the more I'd put NDSU ahead of EWU. While EWU has the best offense in the FCS they have a bottom 1/3 defense. NDSU and UNI both have top 1/3 offenses and 1/3 defenses. Statistically speaking I like both over EWU.

UNI likely is my #1 next week too unless EWU or NDSU plays ungodly well and some big injury reports come out of Cedar Falls.


Flame away if you want, I don't really give a damn.