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kab1one
07-09-2014, 06:55 PM
One of the beauties of the NFL and why it is so popular is they have created a brand that gets attention all year round.

Starts in July Training camp, August Pre Season, September though December Regular season, January Playoffs, February Super Bowl, March/April Cut Players and Free Agency and Combines, May Draft, June Mini camps/OTA's


July Start over again. As a result we have year round NFL News. Basketball is getting some of the same effect with draft and free agnency, making it year round.

Aside from the die hards, I would suspect a lot of BISON football fans move on other things when the season is over.

Obviously, NDSU Football has some things going on, Signing Day, Spring Practice, Practice starts in late July. But there are lull's in the promotion of the brand.

And maybe it gets put on the back burner since the University has other successful sports programs that get promoted throughout the year.

But the reality is, football is king at NDSU and it should be on a year round pedestal. Attention, breeds more attention and the brand grows.

Some of the key points during the year, recruiting/signing day, you are somewhat limited on, since they are often times out of state high school kids, that you may not see play for 2 or 3 years.

But adding events through the year to get the fan involved. Spring Football game, blow it up. If NDSU wants to be big time, have a spring game that fills the place? What or how? I don't know, give aways, concert in the parking lot, I don't know, bonus team maker points if you attend. I don't know, other schools do it why can't we?

How about Football Fantasy Camp like the MLB teams do. Old guys can spend money, do film season, training with the coaches. Get our names on the big screen. Have a Flag football game against old bison greats.

The Bison opens, I don't know how many they do, but do like the Twins Caravan. around the state and western ND.

Bison week in Phoenix in the Winter. I know Marcus and I think Turner visited last winter at a Phoenix Function and they were huge.

Now some of this stuff they might already be doing, but promote the living crap out of it. You have marketing students at NDSU, turn them loose. You have contact lists out there, get the word out. As you can tell from some of the comments on this board, not everyone knows what NDSU is doing.

FOOTBALL is king. Promote it and turn it into a year round machine.

BisonTeacher
07-09-2014, 07:11 PM
How about Football Fantasy Camp like the MLB teams do. Old guys can spend money, do film season, training with the coaches. Get our names on the big screen. Have a Flag football game against old bison greats.


Will the shoulder pads fit under furry yellow coats?

This thread has possibilities.

Loud and Proud Bison fan
07-09-2014, 07:13 PM
Umm.. you do remember the players are kids, and are at NDSU to improve their education. What you are saying is treating the kids like celebraties. If you want the players to do all kinds of extra things, then you better get in the B10, so you can pay them.
Many of the players already do (volunteer) things, you dont hear of like visit kids in hospitals and stuff.

kab1one
07-09-2014, 07:15 PM
Will the shoulder pads fit under furry yellow coats?

This thread has possibilities.

My kid was just at a football camp in the cities and I sat in on a few sessions. QB film Session and High School Recruiting 101, put on my a NFL regional scout. Two aspects as a fan, you don't get to see. I know at the bison bidders bowl, the "Bison Game Day Experience", on the field for the game, on the field for the warm ups, etc. It went to a couple of grand.

You get 400 younger kids at NDSU football camp, why wouldn't the fans want to go through this. Hell big green egg cooking school is well attended.

kab1one
07-09-2014, 07:18 PM
Umm.. you do remember the players are kids, and are at NDSU to improve their education. What you are saying is treating the kids like celebraties. If you want the players to do all kinds of extra things, then you better get in the B10, so you can pay them.
Many of the players already do (volunteer) things, you dont hear of like visit kids in hospitals and stuff.

Actually when I said Turner and Marcus at the Phonix, I believe they were done with school and working out in the Phoenix area, so they were no longer students. And as for the Caravans' the coaches and ex players. Once a Bison always a bison, bring back, Tyrone, and other ex bison greats, that are playing pro ball. Chapo would have the list, he has them all on speed dial.

Loud and Proud Bison fan
07-09-2014, 07:29 PM
Also, I must say. I am not an NFL fan for the reasons you mentioned. They try and jam way too much stuff now my throat, and it is actually a turn-off. I dont care about mini-camps, OTAs etc. I listen to kfan most of the day at work, but refuse to listen to PA, b/c all he does is talk viking football. Talk about a pompus arse today, when Mike Yeo was on and he asked him.. if he was going to attend Vikings mini camp. While yes most coaches support each other in the same team.. why in the H-e- double hockey stick would Mike Yeo give two hoots about Vikings Mini camp. I know I dont give a hoot about it.

Bisonator98
07-09-2014, 07:32 PM
Actually when I said Turner and Marcus at the Phonix, I believe they were done with school and working out in the Phoenix area, so they were no longer students. And as for the Caravans' the coaches and ex players. Once a Bison always a bison, bring back, Tyrone, and other ex bison greats, that are playing pro ball. Chapo would have the list, he has them all on speed dial.

This would actually make for a good fund raiser event. Get some of the guys like Phil, Tyrone, Walker, Drago, Brock, Billy, Rocky back for a golf game or just a meet and greet. Actually wouldn't have to be just FB guys either could be all sports maybe Woody, Amy, heck any of them would could partake. Maybe combine it with an NDSU BBQ boot camp to get ready for tailgating. Have it in the West lots and charge an entrance fee.

kab1one
07-09-2014, 07:32 PM
here is Drago building his Bison Brand using ex NDSU players.

More power too him. But others are taking NDSU football to build their brand. NDSU can do the same.

http://www.oneherd.com/

If you scroll down you see he has Brock in the promotion.

kab1one
07-09-2014, 07:35 PM
Also, I must say. I am not an NFL fan for the reasons you mentioned. They try and jam way too much stuff now my throat, and it is actually a turn-off. I dont care about mini-camps, OTAs etc. I listen to kfan most of the day at work, but refuse to listen to PA, b/c all he does is talk viking football. Talk about a pompus arse today, when Mike Yeo was on and he asked him.. if he was going to attend Vikings mini camp. While yes most coaches support each other in the same team.. why in the H-e- double hockey stick would Mike Yeo give two hoots about Vikings Mini camp. I know I dont give a hoot about it.

I can relate to it, but that is what the NFL has done and as result that is why the values of the franchises, tv deals, marketing have gone through the roof.

There has been a lot a talk about money, raising money, then this is the type of presentation NDSU has to make. They are fighting for a finite amount of disposable income, they are competing against the Redhawks, Sioux Hockey, Wefest, so they need to be in the public eye and create a buzz.

kab1one
07-09-2014, 07:39 PM
This would actually make for a good fund raiser event. Get some of the guys like Phil, Tyrone, Walker, Drago, Brock, Billy, Rocky back for a golf game or just a meet and greet. Actually wouldn't have to be just FB guys either could be all sports maybe Woody, Amy, heck any of them would could partake. Maybe combine it with an NDSU BBQ boot camp to get ready for tailgating. Have it in the West lots and charge an entrance fee.

What was the snowmobile event the Vikings used to do in Brainerd? Ski Trip, Golf outings, cruises like the washed up rock bands do.

Speaking of cruises, UND Alumni has Alumni Trips, cruises that I hear are well done. 50-200 Und Alum on a big boats cruising throughout the world. Its a way to get the touches Herdbot mentioned I don't know if NDSU does something like this.

Loud and Proud Bison fan
07-09-2014, 07:43 PM
I can relate to it, but that is what the NFL has done and as result that is why the values of the franchises, tv deals, marketing have gone through the roof.

There has been a lot a talk about money, raising money, then this is the type of presentation NDSU has to make. They are fighting for a finite amount of disposable income, they are competing against the Redhawks, Sioux Hockey, Wefest, so they need to be in the public eye and create a buzz.

I fail to see how NDSU is fighting against Wefest or Sioux hockey. Wefest has nothing to do with NDSU, except maybe a choir concert or something? Sioux hockey doesnt compete against NDSU, b/c NDSU doesnt have hockey. Fans that attend Sioux hockey are there b/c they like the game. The Force are more likely to challenge Sioux hockey than NDSU football... heck, I will even give you NDSU mens BB is trying to challenge sioux hockey.

The Redhawks, play at a different time of year than NDSU baseball, so that really doesnt match up. Also, have you been to a Redhawks baseball game the same time as a NDSU football... there is maybe 500 fans if that at the baseball game. So football has already taken that.

El_Chapo
07-09-2014, 07:45 PM
there are ndsu travel options been offered thru alumni emailings.
NDSU does NOT promote its NFL players, hell to the NO and it sucks.

Bisonator98
07-09-2014, 07:47 PM
What was the snowmobile event the Vikings used to do in Brainerd? Ski Trip, Golf outings, cruises like the washed up rock bands do.

Speaking of cruises, UND Alumni has Alumni Trips, cruises that I hear are well done. 50-200 Und Alum on a big boats cruising throughout the world. Its a way to get the touches Herdbot mentioned I don't know if NDSU does something like this.

Yeah the alumni association sponsors trips.

kab1one
07-09-2014, 07:53 PM
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I fail to see how NDSU is fighting against Wefest or Sioux hockey. Wefest has nothing to do with NDSU, except maybe a choir concert or something? Sioux hockey doesnt compete against NDSU, b/c NDSU doesnt have hockey. Fans that attend Sioux hockey are there b/c they like the game. The Force are more likely to challenge Sioux hockey than NDSU football... heck, I will even give you NDSU mens BB is trying to challenge sioux hockey.

The Redhawks, play at a different time of year than NDSU baseball, so that really doesnt match up. Also, have you been to a Redhawks baseball game the same time as a NDSU football... there is maybe 500 fans if that at the baseball game. So football has already taken that.


Concept is discretionary income or disposable income. You have core living expenses, housing, car, health care, hopefully some savings and the remainder is what you have to spend on other items. Entertainment, eating out travel. NDSU is in completion for those dollars. You might have a person that attends 10 red hawks games a year. NDSU is competition for those dollars. Just has the Redhawks are competing against NDSU dollars. Is there an event that NDSU can put on that I spend my money on an NDSU Product or promotion, versus we fest.

I think you are completely wrong on the UND Hockey comment. The Ralph is selling Suites, the FargoDome has suites, there is corporate sponsorships involved, NDSU football, also have UND hockey tickets. So you there is competition for the next dollar spent.

kab1one
07-09-2014, 07:55 PM
Yeah the alumni association sponsors trips.

Obviously I am on the bad boy alumni list. I don't get 10-15 contacts a year from the school. I get the UND Alumni trip mailer and I never even went to school there.

roadwarrior
07-09-2014, 08:32 PM
Obviously I am on the bad boy alumni list. I don't get 10-15 contacts a year from the school. I get the UND Alumni trip mailer and I never even went to school there.

Obviously un_ hacked the NDSU computer and transferred your account.

BadlandsBison
07-09-2014, 08:38 PM
Obviously I am on the bad boy alumni list. I don't get 10-15 contacts a year from the school. I get the UND Alumni trip mailer and I never even went to school there.
How's the wining and dining? Olive Garden?

kab1one
07-09-2014, 08:48 PM
How's the wining and dining? Olive Garden?

You can deal with a 1,000 people that give a $100 or deal with 100 have get give a $1,000. Either way its $100,000. You go to Mcdonalds, I will go to Olive Garden.

HerdBot
07-09-2014, 08:57 PM
They've done a great job. After basketball season it's kind of a snore fest for me and I try to enjoy the summer.

1) Signing Day. For nerds like me it's kind of like the NFL draft for NCAA teams. Gets me past February.

2) Spring game. The coverage has been improved with it being televised state wide. It's not only state wide, it's getting good radio coverage as well. The crowds have been solid and they even added tailgating. For me it's like a warmup session. The Showcase has grown. Gets me through April.

3) DVD releases. I hope they don't stop doing them if we don't four peat. I enjoy these videos. I actually wish they kept the premiere at the Fargo Theater. It keeps me entertained for at least a month.

4) Road Show has been awesome. Love the grass roots efforts. I've never been to one but it's entertaining.

5) Fan day is a good time. I usually stop by the Scheels for the annual event they have.

All in all it's great... except for the Summer Time in which I work on tailgating stuff.

HerdBot
07-09-2014, 09:01 PM
there are ndsu travel options been offered thru alumni emailings.
NDSU does NOT promote its NFL players, hell to the NO and it sucks.

How would you suggest we promote them?

NorthernBison
07-09-2014, 09:13 PM
I know: Let's do a series of commercials where basketball players are hanging out (maybe near the football offices) and then the football players can walk by and look at them like "Why are they on our Turf?" I saw something like that somewhere. I think it really went over well. :hide:

El_Chapo
07-09-2014, 09:15 PM
How would you suggest we promote them?


they can pay me if they want effective and cool promotions and i'd get every single ndsu nfl player to do it.

Tatanka
07-09-2014, 09:40 PM
I know: Let's do a series of commercials where basketball players are hanging out (maybe near the football offices) and then the football players can walk by and look at them like "Why are they on our Turf?" I saw something like that somewhere. I think it really went over well. :hide:

Add a couple of semi-competent coaches in a helmet car with a pizza box and a flip flop and you've got a winner.

BisonTeacher
07-09-2014, 11:47 PM
i'd get every single ndsu nfl player to do it.

that...or a restraining order.

SamsRams
07-09-2014, 11:56 PM
Some interesting ideas and would be awesome if more of the Bison greats from the past could be involved more. I think one way to keep NDSU football interest year round is having more people interested in the recruiting process. I think my site and twitter account is helping a little on that front. recruiting is a year round process and the more fans get to follow Bison players and know who the younger guys are, the more fans will be invested in the team. dedicated fans stick around when NDSU is up 40 to watch the young guys and if NDSU ever has a bad year again, knowing who is next on the depth chart keeps fans involved and optimistic of the future