True Seed List

[Hansel]

Haven't seen it posted elsewhere

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2014/03/17/ncaa-tournament-the-true-seed-list-of-all-68-teams/


The last at-large team in the field was N.C. State (true seed: 47).

1. Florida

2.Arizona

3.Wichita St.

4.Virginia

5.Villanova

6.Michigan

7.Kansas

8.Wisconsin

9.Duke

10. Syracuse

11.Creighton

12. Iowa St.

13. Louisville

14.Michigan St.

15.UCLA

16. San Diego St.

17.Cincinnati

18. Saint Louis

19.VCU

20.Oklahoma

21.North Carolina

22.Ohio St.

23.Massachusetts

24.Baylor

25. Texas

26.UConn

27.Oregon

28.New Mexico

29.Kentucky

30.Gonzaga

31.Memphis

32.Colorado

33.Kansas St.

34.George Washington

35.Oklahoma St.

36.Pittsburgh

37. Stanford

38. Saint Joseph’s

39.BYU

40.Arizona St.

41.Dayton

42.Nebraska

43.Providence

44. Tennessee

45. Iowa

46.Xavier

47.North Carolina St.

48.North Dakota St.

49.Harvard

50. Stephen F. Austin

51.Manhattan

52. Tulsa

53.New Mexico St.

54.Delaware

55.Western Mich.

56.Mercer

57. La.-Lafayette

58.N.C. Central

59. Eastern Ky.

60.Milwaukee

61.Wofford

62.American

63.Coastal Caro.

64.Weber St.

65.Mt. St. Mary’s

66.Albany (NY)

67. Texas Southern

68.Cal Poly

[Tatanka]

Haven't seen it posted elsewhere

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2014/03/17/ncaa-tournament-the-true-seed-list-of-all-68-teams/


The last at-large team in the field was N.C. State (true seed: 47).

1. Florida

2.Arizona

3.Wichita St.

4.Virginia

5.Villanova

6.Michigan

7.Kansas

8.Wisconsin

9.Duke

10. Syracuse

11.Creighton

12. Iowa St.

13. Louisville

14.Michigan St.

15.UCLA

16. San Diego St.

17.Cincinnati

18. Saint Louis

19.VCU

20.Oklahoma

21.North Carolina

22.Ohio St.

23.Massachusetts

24.Baylor

25. Texas

26.UConn

27.Oregon

28.New Mexico

29.Kentucky

30.Gonzaga

31.Memphis

32.Colorado

33.Kansas St.

34.George Washington

35.Oklahoma St.

36.Pittsburgh

37. Stanford

38. Saint Joseph’s

39.BYU

40.Arizona St.

41.Dayton

42.Nebraska

43.Providence

44. Tennessee

45. Iowa

46.Xavier

47.North Carolina St.

48.North Dakota St.

49.Harvard

50. Stephen F. Austin

51.Manhattan

52. Tulsa

53.New Mexico St.

54.Delaware

55.Western Mich.

56.Mercer

57. La.-Lafayette

58.N.C. Central

59. Eastern Ky.

60.Milwaukee

61.Wofford

62.American

63.Coastal Caro.

64.Weber St.

65.Mt. St. Mary’s

66.Albany (NY)

67. Texas Southern

68.Cal Poly

LOL @ the pride of the big fluffy

[westnodak93bison]

20 vs 48 and the spread is 4? Doesn't make sense to me.

[bisonaudit]

20 vs 48 and the spread is 4? Doesn't make sense to me.

Well these are the same people who think Louisville is only the 13th best team in the country.

[1998braves64]

People are saying if we beat Southern Miss and then lost the Summit we probably would have been in, but didn't Southern Miss beat us and lost their tournament and not make it, and had a fairly decent RPI? I don't know if we'd made it in if we'd beat So Miss (and the rest of the games played out as they did), and we did the same except lose to IPFW.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Well these are the same people who think Louisville is only the 13th best team in the country.

Not a strong conference and weak non conference schedule is why they are a 4

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[NDSU1980]

LOL @ the pride of the big fluffyYou beat me to it. How can anyone be proud of the fluffy?

[Strongman]

Well these are the same people who think Louisville is only the 13th best team in the country.

Vegas oddsmakers know more about basketball than the selection committee. On a neutral arena, 4 pts is a pretty accurate point spead.

[ndsubison1]

Well these are the same people who think Louisville is only the 13th best team in the country.

Louisville should be a 2 Kansas a 3 and Creighton a 4

[bisonaudit]

Not a strong conference and weak non conference schedule is why they are a 4

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Just because they have a reason doesn't make them right.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

They seed based on the entire year not the last month

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[NorthernBison]

Looks like Cal Poly and Mt. St. Marys kept Weber from playing on Tuesday or Wednesday. Remember this list when some BSC moron talks about the strength of the Fluffy vs the Summit. There's really nothing else to say because the numbers are overwhelming and they come from an unbiased source.

[bisonaudit]

They seed based on the entire year not the last month

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Preseason #3, all five losses were to ranked teams by an average of just 6 points, top 20 scoring offense and defense, between 3rd and 5th in the final human polls. The only reason the committee put them as low as they did is because the RPI didn't like them and the committee incorrectly relies on the RPI in their process. The RPI is a shitty way to compare teams. The average telephone as an order of magnitude more computing power on board than the machines the RPI was invented to run on. It needs to be retired.

[IndyBison]

Preseason #3, all five losses were to ranked teams by an average of just 6 points, top 20 scoring offense and defense, between 3rd and 5th in the final human polls. The only reason the committee put them as low as they did is because the RPI didn't like them and the committee incorrectly relies on the RPI in their process. The RPI is a shitty way to compare teams. The average telephone as an order of magnitude more computing power on board than the machines the RPI was invented to run on. It needs to be retired.

Yet it was sited by many people as the reason the Bison should get a 12 seed. Any objective analysis is usually praised or criticized based on how it supports your objective argument.

This is what I found when I looked at RPI. Louisville was 19th. The 1-2-3 seeds were all top 12 in RPI except for Syracuse (16...still higher than Louisville). Kansas was #3 and Creighton was #10. Someone mentioned Louisville should be ahead of them.

All 1-2-3 seeds had SOS in the top 32 except Syracuse (63) and Wichita State (98). Louisville was 80. Kansas was #1 and Creighton was #10. This was probably the biggest impact of their RPI.

New Mexico (12 RPI 42 SOS) - 7 seed, VCU (13 RPI 27 SOS) - 5 seed, and Kentucky (17 RPI 3 SOS) - 8 seed could argue they should have been seeded higher than Louisville.

The AAC ended up 8th in conference RPI which isn't bad, but their former brothers in the Big East finished 4th. If you look at this objectively through this data, Louisville ended up where they should. That doesn't mean they can't run the table and win the tournament.

It's OK to disagree if you are using different criteria than the committee used. But their criteria is the one that matters. Unfortunately Louisville's updated conference had a down year. They are still a top 4 seed and will get to play close to home in the regional assuming they make it.

[bisonaudit]

Yet it was sited by many people as the reason the Bison should get a 12 seed. Any objective analysis is usually praised or criticized based on how it supports your objective argument.

This is what I found when I looked at RPI. Louisville was 19th. The 1-2-3 seeds were all top 12 in RPI except for Syracuse (16...still higher than Louisville). Kansas was #3 and Creighton was #10. Someone mentioned Louisville should be ahead of them.

All 1-2-3 seeds had SOS in the top 32 except Syracuse (63) and Wichita State (98). Louisville was 80. Kansas was #1 and Creighton was #10. This was probably the biggest impact of their RPI.

New Mexico (12 RPI 42 SOS) - 7 seed, VCU (13 RPI 27 SOS) - 5 seed, and Kentucky (17 RPI 3 SOS) - 8 seed could argue they should have been seeded higher than Louisville.

The AAC ended up 8th in conference RPI which isn't bad, but their former brothers in the Big East finished 4th. If you look at this objectively through this data, Louisville ended up where they should. That doesn't mean they can't run the table and win the tournament.

It's OK to disagree if you are using different criteria than the committee used. But their criteria is the one that matters. Unfortunately Louisville's updated conference had a down year. They are still a top 4 seed and will get to play close to home in the regional assuming they make it.

I'm using different criteria than the committee. I agree that the only criteria that matter are the committee's. I'm saying that the committee is using the wrong criteria. The RPI should be retired. We have better metrics now.

I have no ties to Louisville. I only care about them to the extent that I've got them surviving and advancing on a live bracket in this or that office pool. They're just a handy example of the RPI not being an effective measure of team quality.

[IndyBison]

I checked the Lunardi brackets randomly and Louisville was seeded anywhere from 3 to 5 over the past month. The final CBS bracketology had them at #4. We also don't know if they were originally a 3 but swapped with a 4 for geography, bracket rule reasons.

[Hansel]

I checked the Lunardi brackets randomly and Louisville was seeded anywhere from 3 to 5 over the past month. The final CBS bracketology had them at #4. We also don't know if they were originally a 3 but swapped with a 4 for geography, bracket rule reasons.

I have read that they didn't swap any seeds due to geography this year (first time in a while they have done this).

[bisonaudit]

I checked the Lunardi brackets randomly and Louisville was seeded anywhere from 3 to 5 over the past month. The final CBS bracketology had them at #4. We also don't know if they were originally a 3 but swapped with a 4 for geography, bracket rule reasons.

They're using the same shitty criteria the committee does because their job is to predict what the committee will do.