3/20 vs Oklahoma

[NDSUstudent]

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The big dance is here! the Bison play the Sooners at Spokane, Washington. Tip-off is at 6:27 and the game will be televised on TruTV

The Sooners finished second in the Big 12 and had a record of 23-9. Per Kenpom their offense is rated 13th in adjusted efficiency and their defense is rated 81st. They play at the 17th quickest tempo. Should be an interesting match up, they can score but we should be able to score on them.

Their record away from home is 9-6. Their best road/neutral wins were at Texas and at Baylor.

Lots of close games...

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Oklahoma.html

[NDSUstudent]

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[MNLonghorn10]

the dudes on ESPN seem to like the Bison for the upset 12 pick.

no shock really, the sooners fucking suck.

[NDSUBowler]

Lets do this!!!!

[Tatanka]

the dudes on ESPN seem to like the Bison for the upset 12 pick.

no shock really, the sooners fucking suck.

Worst state ever?

[HerdBoy]

I would have to go with one of the coal states out East.

[BisonTeacher]

Screw Oklahoma and their lack of snowplows and de-icing chemicals!!!!!!

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[NDSUstudent]

I noticed they posted a link on their forum to Bisonville...Might be another Big 12 invasion coming.

[onbison09]

If North Texas can hold them to within 13, the Bison can sure as hell get the job done.

[SDbison]

I noticed they posted a link on their forum to Bisonville...Might be another Big 12 invasion coming. Ha ha........how did that work for Kansas State?

[Tatanka]

I noticed they posted a link on their forum to Bisonville...Might be another Big 12 invasion coming.

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[SanDakotaState]

If North Texas can hold them to within 13, the Bison can sure as hell get the job done.

I wouldn't be looking at scores from earlier this season. This same bison team lost to UN_ by 18.

[Tatanka]

I wouldn't be looking at scores from earlier this season. This same bison team lost to UN_ by 18.

oh hai! you're still here?

[Bisonguy]

Linky for the OU hoops board for those that became disinterested locating it after finding 5 OU boards with 4 posts in the last week?

[NDSUstudent]

Linky for the OU hoops board for those that became disinterested locating it after finding 5 OU boards with 4 posts in the last week?

This is the best board I could find...

http://www.landthieves.com/board/

They are lurking...


Seem to be a ****y little bunch



These ****ing guys have about as much chance of beating us as they do beating the defending Big 12 champs in football.

[SanDakotaState]

oh hai! you're still here?

you betcha! just keeping bison fans down to earth :)

[HerdBot]

Obviously they can score but I think we have a few advantages...

1) looking at the rosters we appear to have a size advantage. They start 3 guards, none with height. Braun could be a mismatch. They don't have a lot of beef either so Bjorkland could really hold his ground

2) experience. All 5 of our starters have been playing together for years. Oklahoma starts 1 senior.

I think it's an interesting matchup. Is Denver a good comparison?? These guys seem to launch a ton of threes.... and when they go cold they suck

[MNLonghorn10]

oh hai! you're still here?

He whiffed on his NDSU will be a 13 because of SDSU last year blah blah blah prediction so he's gotta make up for it.

[MNLonghorn10]

you betcha! just keeping bison fans down to earth :)

How? Jacks fans havent been right about one thing in the history of the internet.

[Tatanka]

He whiffed on his NDSU will be a 13 because of SDSU last year blah blah blah prediction so he's gotta make up for it.

Figured he'd be turtling right now, but he's just proving he's too dumb to know when to quit.

[SanDakotaState]

How? Jacks fans havent been right about one thing in the history of the internet.

There is one thing....Nate Wolters getting drafted in NBA....you made me say it

Anyways best of luck against Oklahoma. They are good team but beatable as shown in their inconsistent play in during Big12 play. The probably won't know to double down on Bjorklund so hopefully NDSU gives him the ball all day like they did against Notre Dame.

[Kermit]

There is one thing....Nate Wolters getting drafted in NBA....you made me say it

Anyways best of luck against Oklahoma. They are good team but beatable as shown in their inconsistent play in during Big12 play. The probably won't know to double down on Bjorklund so hopefully NDSU gives him the ball all day like they did against Notre Dame.

Lon Kruger is a very good coach and his team will definitely not be under-prepared for tournament game. The Bison will have to earn this one and I think they can.

[Mr_Meanor]

Obviously they can score but I think we have a few advantages...

1) looking at the rosters we appear to have a size advantage. They start 3 guards, none with height. Braun could be a mismatch. They don't have a lot of beef either so Bjorkland could really hold his ground

2) experience. All 5 of our starters have been playing together for years. Oklahoma starts 1 senior.

I think it's an interesting matchup. Is Denver a good comparison?? These guys seem to launch a ton of threes.... and when they go cold they suck

I think we match up well inside but they do have good size at the guard position. They start 3 guards that are 6'4 or bigger. I think size wise its pretty close comparing the guards. I really hope we can take advantage inside.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Lon Kruger is a very good coach and his team will definitely not be under-prepared for tournament game. The Bison will have to earn this one and I think they can.

Well said my friend

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[NDSUstudent]

Bison get a primetime game but it is on TruTV


NDSU-Oklahoma set for 6:27 central on Thursday.


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[HandoEX]

76-67 Bison! Love this matchup!

[MNLonghorn10]

TruTV? Stupid. At least MidCo gets it.

[BisonTeacher]

TruTV? Stupid. At least MidCo gets it.


What, you don't like hardcore pawn?

[NDSUstudent]

TruTV? Stupid. At least MidCo gets it.

DirectTV gets it so no issues for me.

[StL Bison Fan]

It's not reality tv, It's actuality tv

[BisonTeacher]

Im hearing 6:30 Thursday can anyone confirm?

[HerdBot]

I think we match up well inside but they do have good size at the guard position. They start 3 guards that are 6'4 or bigger. I think size wise its pretty close comparing the guards. I really hope we can take advantage inside.

Checked their last game and they started 3 guards- 6-4, 6-4, and 6-0. (Freshman and 2 sophmores) I like the 6-7 Braun as a mismatch.

[Wally]

Im hearing 6:30 Thursday can anyone confirm?


NCAA has most of the times up....it is confirmed...all eastern times listed




http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/basketball-men/d1

[NDSUstudent]

They may as well call our region the TruTV region.

[BisonTeacher]

NCAA has most of the times up....it is confirmed...all eastern times listed




http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/basketball-men/d1

thank you. Been watching cbs bracket.

[aces1180]

Son of a gun...I have to miss the game due to working one of the eight nights required each year...I guess I'll have to go dark for a few hours and watch it on DVR.

[NDSUstudent]

Announcers for the game... Spero Dedes, Doug Gottlieb and Jaime Maggio

[HerdBot]

TruTV? Stupid. At least MidCo gets it.

Glad I have DirecTV, channel 246!
Cable One can SMMFD

[stevdock]

Glad I have DirecTV, channel 246!
Cable One can SMMFD

Does the tourney still switch the local game to the local CBS channel or is that a thing of the past??

[MNLonghorn10]

im pretty sure ever since adding TBS/TNT and Tru...whatever your game is on, itll stay there.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Does the tourney still switch the local game to the local CBS channel or is that a thing of the past??


im pretty sure ever since adding TBS/TNT and Tru...whatever your game is on, itll stay there.

It will stay on TruTv unless cable one can get it switched to cbs for the local area?

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[aces1180]

I remember the first year that NCAA games were on DirecTV...Since they didn't offer TruTV in HD, the actually added the HD version to the line-up as 246-1 just for the tournament. Glad its not a problem anymore.

[oldmantutters]

Glad I have DirecTV, channel 246!
Cable One can SMMFD

It's almost like a broken record around here with Cable One constantly dropping the ball. I feel sorry for those of you in Fargo who are held hostage by them.


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[GoPanthers33]

Good luck in your game guys! Hoping you join the "Upset Oklahoma" club. That was the last time we won a game in the tournament.

I think you match up well with your inside play and have a great shot to pull off the upset!

[ndsubison1]

COuldnt have asked for anything better. They have some good guards but I think Kory can hold his own vs Buddy Hield. They arent very big and get a lot of their production in the backcourt. This is a pretty good matchup for us. However, they do have probably a top 10 coach in the country

[NDSUstudent]

Seth Davis takes Oklahoma...says they have too many ways to score. Andy Katz takes the Bison of course as his 12 over 5 upset but has the Bison falling to San Diego State.

NDSU/West Region talk starts at about the 15 minute mark...

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[natstar1]

betonline has Bison as 4 point dogs

only book I can find a line

[344Johnson]

COuldnt have asked for anything better. They have some good guards but I think Kory can hold his own vs Buddy Hield. They arent very big and get a lot of their production in the backcourt. This is a pretty good matchup for us. However, they do have probably a top 10 coach in the country

How will Marshall match up?

[NDSUFan_Sav]

How will Marshall match up?

Should be pretty good. I expect us to feed him and often. I don't see them bringing help and if they do we will pop it back out. As long as he stays out of foul trouble and we can attack the middle and if felt, braun, and wright are hitting on all cylinders. I like our chances.

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[NDSUFan_Sav]

COuldnt have asked for anything better. They have some good guards but I think Kory can hold his own vs Buddy Hield. They arent very big and get a lot of their production in the backcourt. This is a pretty good matchup for us. However, they do have probably a top 10 coach in the country

Very well coached

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[ndsubison1]

team should play very loose as we are the underdog and playing on a true neutral court. not to mention the other fans will be cheering for us

[Tony Almeida]

I am one of those held hostage by cable one...this blows!

Hope someone puts this game on youtube so I can actually watch it.

I've never been so upset in my life!!

[SamsRams]

How will Marshall match up?

watched the 1st halves vs OSU and Texas. Texas' big man (bigger than Marshall) was able to get position often and get their big man Spangler in trouble. Spangler is 6-8 and very athletic heard them say he led conference in Defensive and Offensive rebounds and he showed his boarding abilities in the OSU game. Spangler is a Oklahoma kid who transfered from Gonzaga so it will be interesting to see if any Zag fans in attendance root for NDSU because he quite on them. They are a young team starting 3 sophomores and a freshman and they really like to push it up the floor. Not impressed with their half court play on either side, but they are very athletic and can cut off the passing lanes in a hurry if they really put their minds to it.
Love that they are young and even farther away from home than NDSU is. Bison have a great chance to win by double digits

[BisonTeacher]

I am one of those held hostage by cable one...this blows!

Hope someone puts this game on youtube so I can actually watch it.

I've never been so upset in my life!!

Doesnt cbs sports put the games online???

[SamsRams]

Doesnt cbs sports put the games online???
if not it there will be tons of bootlegs out there firstrow will have at least 5 links

[BisonTeacher]

if not it there will be tons of bootlegs out there firstrow will have at least 5 links

I remember having the game on my computer last time we danced as it was during the day. I did not pay for any stream. Im not sure if they do that anymore, but Id look into it.

[BisonTeacher]

Fans will also be able to access the games through NCAA March Madness on Demand. NCAA March Madness on Demand will provide live streaming video of every game of the new 68-team tournament as they are broadcast by CBS Sports and Turner Sports.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24488130/ncaa-tournament-tv-schedule-tip-times-announcing-teams

[stevdock]

CBS online has a very good system. You can watch every game online and switch between games as often as you'd like.

[1998braves64]

We've had very good luck with CBS online streams, the first year or two was a bit dicy with popular games but seems they have rectified that issue the last few years. Can even watch it later if you can't watch it live.

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[HerdBoy]

I was watching the news last night at 10 and the gal on the news said they were going to try to work something out and broadcast the game. I think it was KVLY? I have Dickey Rural and truTV.

[thundarsdaddy]

Oklahoma's just another state ya go through on our way to National Championships in Football, why should it differ for basketball?

[Bison03]

I was watching the news last night at 10 and the gal on the news said they were going to try to work something out and broadcast the game. I think it was KVLY? I have Dickey Rural and truTV.

No chance in hell this can, or ever will happen. CBS Sports/Turner Sports paid 11 BILLION DOLLARS a couple years ago for rights to broadcast the tournament. No way they let some dink-ass NBC affiliate broadcast a game they paid a crapload of money to get. If you aren't watching Tru TV or online on CBS sports website or app, you wont we watching. Now, if enough pressure could be put on Cable One to pick up the network, then everyone would be set.

[roadwarrior]

No chance in hell this can, or ever will happen. CBS Sports/Turner Sports paid 11 BILLION DOLLARS a couple years ago for rights to broadcast the tournament. No way they let some dink-ass NBC affiliate broadcast a game they paid a crapload of money to get. If you aren't watching Tru TV or online on CBS sports website or app, you wont we watching. Now, if enough pressure could be put on Cable One to pick up the network, then everyone would be set.

What if some dink-ass CBS affiliate wants to broadcast it? (KXJB)

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Fans will also be able to access the games through NCAA March Madness on Demand. NCAA March Madness on Demand will provide live streaming video of every game of the new 68-team tournament as they are broadcast by CBS Sports and Turner Sports.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24488130/ncaa-tournament-tv-schedule-tip-times-announcing-teams


if not it there will be tons of bootlegs out there firstrow will have at least 5 links


Doesnt cbs sports put the games online???

Download the march madness app and watch from your phone

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[Tatanka]

No chance in hell this can, or ever will happen. CBS Sports/Turner Sports paid 11 BILLION DOLLARS a couple years ago for rights to broadcast the tournament. No way they let some dink-ass NBC affiliate broadcast a game they paid a crapload of money to get. If you aren't watching Tru TV or online on CBS sports website or app, you wont we watching. Now, if enough pressure could be put on Cable One to pick up the network, then everyone would be set.

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[KSBisonFan]

Should be pretty good. I expect us to feed him and often. I don't see them bringing help and if they do we will pop it back out. As long as he stays out of foul trouble and we can attack the middle and if felt, braun, and wright are hitting on all cylinders. I like our chances.

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Avoiding foul trouble and LA avoiding a repeat of his shooting performance against IPFW are the keys, IMO. Anything from Felt will go a long way to a W for us. I also think Aaberg and Kaeding will need to have solid minutes.

[Bison bison]

Avoiding foul trouble and LA avoiding a repeat of his shooting performance against IPFW are the keys, IMO. Anything from Felt will go a long way to a W for us. I also think Aaberg and Kaeding will need to have solid minutes.


I'm looking forward to a couple of epic dunks from mr. wright.

[BisonNation11]

This team needs to go out and have some fun. Yeah, they can be focused and ready to go, but they need to have fun. They were waaaay too serious and tight against IPFW and they cannot have a repeat of that if they want to win. Enjoy the moment and become this year's FGCU.

[ndsubison1]

Doesnt cbs sports put the games online???

you can watch on ncaa.com

[Tatanka]

5 of 6 "experts" on CBSSports pick NDSU... http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/predictions

Gregg Doyel, @greggdoyelcbs, from Kansas picks NDSU to the Sweet 16.

[Professor Chaos]

Can someone put out the Bat Signal for the K-State Mask? I think OU needs a motivational video posted on Youtube for their upcoming matchup with the stupid cows from Norf Dakota.

[Bison"FANatic"]

This is a very good match up for us. We will need to control the tempo and if we can do that it will help quite a bit and if we can't it could get out of hand. OU is 132nd in Field goal percentage at 45.1 (we are #1 at 51%) so if we can pester them and keep them from layups it bodes well for us. Their rebound margin is also 149th ranked so we should matchup well on the boards. Just have to play hard and smart.

They will go for 3 as they rank 17th in 3 per game attempted and 21st in 3 point field goals made. The game and week of practice for going against Denver should benefit us greatly here as the team worked on this exact type of team.

OU is 88th in Turnovers and we are 12th. We need to take care of the ball and that will lead to limited possessions and limit the "easy" points for them. We need to make them earn every possession.

Some games you look at and you go well if they play out of their minds they will have a shot and that just doesn't seem to be the case here. If we just play our game and stay out of foul trouble we should have a very good shot at a win.

We have

[missingnumber7]

Avoiding foul trouble and LA avoiding a repeat of his shooting performance against IPFW are the keys, IMO. Anything from Felt will go a long way to a W for us. I also think Aaberg and Kaeding will need to have solid minutes.

All efforts need to be made to ensure that Braun doesn't have a migraine either.

[BisonTeacher]

All efforts need to be made to ensure that Braun doesn't have a migraine either.

Well they will be near seattle...maybe Percy Harvin can help?

[CAS4127]

My take: OU is the Big12 runner-up for a reason. Yes, they are young compared to us, but from what I have seen, they are more athletic and have more speed as a team, and they have more solid depth. Given their superior athleticism and speed, I believe we (particularly Bjorklund) will get in foul trouble. Also, this NDSU team has not "shown" well in post-season.

In sum, I don't see us winning this game, but I doubt we loose by more that 10-15.

Hope we win--I'll be watching--but will be neither surprised nor overly disappointed if we loose given what we are facing.

[missingnumber7]

It will stay on TruTv unless cable one can get it switched to cbs for the local area?

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Last year they moved games as there was a blowout on CBS and the game on Tru was close and I think one of the TBS games was close and they moved them to CBS. But it would have to be pretty significant.

[westnodak93bison]

My take: OU is the Big12 runner-up for a reason. Yes, they are young compared to us, but from what I have seen, they are more athletic and have more speed as a team, and they have more solid depth. Given their superior athleticism and speed, I believe we (particularly Bjorklund) will get in foul trouble. Also, this NDSU team has not "shown" well in post-season.

In sum, I don't see us winning this game, but I doubt we loose by more that 10-15.

Hope we win--I'll be watching--but will be neither surprised nor overly disappointed if we loose given what we are facing.

Ok Debbie Downer. Maybe I'll just stay home.

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[NDSUstudent]

There is nothing more unpredictable in the NCAA tournament then three point shooting, OU seems to love the three. If they aren't shooting it well this will be a very tight game.

Bison need to make them uncomfortable from behind the arc, the longer the game is close the more pressure will rest on their shoulders. In 2009 when we played KU they were a team that had been to NCAA tournament handling school, this OU team hasn't. Big difference if the game gets tight.

Also need to control the game in the half-court. Grind them out and do not let them get going in transition.

[silkamilkamonico]

OKlahoma is a good matchup for us. They are strong at offense and they struggle at defense. It's a real good matchup for us. We should be able to run our offense against them and they have to be able to score against our defense. It's still an uphill battle, but if there any kind of team that we could matchup well against, it's a team like Oklahoma. They finished second in the Big 12, really only because Iowa State and Texas went through injuries, and Marcus Smart fiasco. They are going to be very tough for us to beat, but we can beat them.

[CAS4127]

Ok Debbie Downer. Maybe I'll just stay home.

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Sorry, but just stating my position. I know BV doesn't like to hear anything negative about the NDSU MBB team. I just provided my opinion/take, just like everyone else--just not the same or what you and ALL others here apparently want to hear.

[HerdBoy]

Can someone put out the Bat Signal for the K-State Mask? I think OU needs a motivational video posted on Youtube for their upcoming matchup with the stupid cows from Norf Dakota.

I don't think Mask has done anything new since September of 2013. I wonder if he retired.

[NDSUstudent]

I highly doubt the mask would ever do a motivational video for OU.

[BisonTeacher]

I don't think Mask has done anything new since September of 2013. I wonder if he retired.

His Mom might have kicked him out and asked for her video equipment back.

[1998braves64]

Would it be bad basketball decision to make sure Marshall stays out of foul trouble by not trying to block, defend every shot tight (ie go a bit conservative in the first half) to keep him out of foul trouble? I think having him in the game as many minutes as possible is going to be key component, and keeps him in the flow of the game. The good thing is it seems (at least was case in '09) they went pretty light on the fouls at least compared to Summit refs. Although their big is only 6'-8" I don't think Kading and Aaberg will have as much trouble with him as Moorman/Flowers/Sussenguth did with Aldrich.

I'm kind of hoping Felt becomes a bit of a wild card as he could put up 12 points in a few shots before they really realize it. He's been cold this half of the year so they may let him float a bit to concentrate on Braun/Wright/Bjorklund, and see how that burnt Denver a bit as 5 shots later he had 12 points. That said I don't think we NEED him to put up points to win this game, and as mentioned any of his points essentially will go a long way in helping get the W.

Will be nice to get a W, my sister in law is a big Sooner's fan and my brother is an NDSU graduate so have some personal connections to the game other than just cheering for NDSU to win!

[silkamilkamonico]

Would it be bad basketball decision to make sure Marshall stays out of foul trouble by not trying to block, defend every shot tight (ie go a bit conservative in the first half) to keep him out of foul trouble? I think having him in the game as many minutes as possible is going to be key component, and keeps him in the flow of the game. The good thing is it seems (at least was case in '09) they went pretty light on the fouls at least compared to Summit refs. Although their big is only 6'-8" I don't think Kading and Aaberg will have as much trouble with him as Moorman/Flowers/Sussenguth did with Aldrich.

I'm kind of hoping Felt becomes a bit of a wild card as he could put up 12 points in a few shots before they really realize it. He's been cold this half of the year so they may let him float a bit to concentrate on Braun/Wright/Bjorklund, and see how that burnt Denver a bit as 5 shots later he had 12 points. That said I don't think we NEED him to put up points to win this game, and as mentioned any of his points essentially will go a long way in helping get the W.

Will be nice to get a W, my sister in law is a big Sooner's fan and my brother is an NDSU graduate so have some personal connections to the game other than just cheering for NDSU to win!

Would be a bad decision IMHO. NDSU does NOT want to get in a track meet with Oklahoma.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Sorry, but just stating my position. I know BV doesn't like to hear anything negative about the NDSU MBB team. I just provided my opinion/take, just like everyone else--just not the same or what you and ALL others here apparently want to hear.

I've watched more big xii games than ndsu games. I don't think OU is as deep as you think. Yes they are fast and like to play an up tempo game. Should OU win? Yes, but we have a pretty good shot at this game if we can slow them down and stay within reach and limit our mistakes against their pressure.

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[NDSUFan_Sav]

Would be a bad decision IMHO. NDSU does NOT want to get in a track meet with Oklahoma.

Agree with this 100% sure we want to push on steals etc but also want to slow their offense down.

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[silkamilkamonico]

Yea I don't think OU is all that deep as well.

[HoopsBison]

The Jack show is a total shitshow today, embarrassing. Ball accomplishes an incredible achievement and it's gotta turn into bball vs football and tank whinning about fan support...sad

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[aces1180]

The Jack show is a total shitshow today, embarrassing. Ball accomplishes an incredible achievement and it's gotta turn into bball vs football and tank whinning about fan support...sad

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Jack needs to control that little bitch Tank...He, McFeely and Heitkamp will be the main reasons that NDSU leaves Midwest when the media contract is up. Book it.

[1998braves64]

Would be a bad decision IMHO. NDSU does NOT want to get in a track meet with Oklahoma.

Agree there, I guess I wasn't intending to allow him free path to the basket, I know you can get called for a foul away from the ball, but I would say defend him tight until he gets the ball and then do your best to just to make him put up a hard shot without getting right up in him. He's not a big scorer 9.8 ppg this year (but only 29 mins pg too so do they use one of their other numerous 6-7 guys when he's not playing?). I guess I see having Marshall play his typical "full game" minutes rather than having to sit out the last 5 minutes of 1st half and for 5 minutes towards end of 2nd half is more valuable than if he gave up say 10 points (obviously there is a point where you go this isn't working if it seems that he's making more than typically would be)? I think he could have a field day on the offensive end being the biggest guy on the court @ 250lbs nobody is going to be able to body him around, I mean the guy is a pig farmer so I'm sure he's used to having big bodies pushing up against him all the time! :) (by the way his Dad is HUGE! Did he play basketball somewhere?)

[BisonNation11]

Bison Tracker going to be fired up for this game?

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[Tatanka]

Bison Tracker going to be fired up for this game?

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It is... checked that last night!

[Bisonator98]

Just looking at some of OU's stats it appears they live and die with the 3. Kind of similar to DU maybe? We will need to get out and cover there guards on the perimeter. Try to keep them from running the floor, easiest way to do that is hit our shots and rebound. Sure hope we play like we did against DU in the semi's instead of like we did against IPFW in the final.

Their big man is Spangler? Any relation to Spanky?? :rofl:

[urnote96]

Lots of people choosing the herd to win. As do I. I have making the sweet 16


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[missingnumber7]

Tim Miles is on SVP and Rusillo right now.

Lots of love on ESPN Radio today. Ernie Johnson just couldn't stop saying NDSU when they were talking about teams to watch. The bookies on Cowherd's show almost said NDSU was the upset pick. Lots of love for us.

[westnodak93bison]

Just looking at some of OU's stats it appears they live and die with the 3. Kind of similar to DU maybe? We will need to get out and cover there guards on the perimeter. Try to keep them from running the floor, easiest way to do that is hit our shots and rebound. Sure hope we play like we did against DU in the semi's instead of like we did against IPFW in the final.

Their big man is Spangler? Any relation to Spanky?? :rofl:

No. That's just his favorite Little Rascal.

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[#1BISONFAN ASHLEY]

I've been looking at Oklahoma's past 5 games. The opposing centers/forwards have scored over 12 points in each game, including 19,18 (twice), I think Bjorkland will have a big game with over 15 points. I got a lot of confidence in this team. I'm thinking we can make it into the sweet 16. My prediction is NDSU 67 OU 63

[17>1]

Not sure if anyone has dibs on starting the GDT's for basketball, but I'd like to nominate b15on to start the thread on Thursday. I know he's 15-0 in the football GDT's, so maybe a little of that mojo can carry over into men's basketball.

[Professor Chaos]

I've been looking at Oklahoma's past 5 games. The opposing centers/forwards have scored over 12 points in each game, including 19,18 (twice), I think Bjorkland will have a big game with over 15 points. I got a lot of confidence in this team. I'm thinking we can make it into the sweet 16. My prediction is NDSU 67 OU 63
That would be a herculean defensive effort against a team as proficient offensively as Oklahoma. I think the Bison need to score 80 to win this game.

[Bison03]

One stat I found interresting. Oklahoma's tallest players are 6'8". W 2 guys at 6'8" and 3 that are 6'7" including Braun. We won't be getting worked down low against a 7 footer or a guy that will dominate the paint. I think Bjorkland and Aaberg will be able to exploit that. If we can get the low post scoring going, it will open up some open shots outside. I think we match up well. IF we can defend the 3 like we did in Fargo against Denver, we have a great shot of winning. Let's do it boys!!

[Professor Chaos]

One stat I found interresting. Oklahoma's tallest players are 6'8". W 2 guys at 6'8" and 3 that are 6'7" including Braun. We won't be getting worked down low against a 7 footer or a guy that will dominate the paint. I think Bjorkland and Aaberg will be able to exploit that. If we can get the low post scoring going, it will open up some open shots outside. I think we match up well. IF we can defend the 3 like we did in Fargo against Denver, we have a great shot of winning. Let's do it boys!!
They also start 3 guys that are 6'4" and under. Either Braun or Tray is going to have a smaller guy on him. I'm sure they're athletes so it's no like they won't be able to play bigger than that but both Braun and Tray are freakish athletes too and they're 6'7" each.

Their big scorers are #24 Hield, who's 6'4", at 16.8 ppg and #21 Clark, who's 6'7", at 15.3 ppg. Kory Brown locks up #24 and Tray makes life difficult for #21. If any team has a mismatch advantage it'll be the Bison IMO.

[HoopsBison]

Hope we can jump on them early, a big Tray dunk would be ideal. Really though we need to be ready to defend like crazy, we can score on Oklahoma no doubt, the big question will be is can we slow them down enough. I think we can.

[BYZEN]

They also start 3 guys that are 6'4" and under. Either Braun or Tray is going to have a smaller guy on him. I'm sure they're athletes so it's no like they won't be able to play bigger than that but both Braun and Tray are freakish athletes too and they're 6'7" each.:nod:

I think that we will own the paint. That will be a key factor, get the ball to the hoop inside. As soon as they start collapsing in on us if we can put up the long ball and get them to drop we will have a game of it. Brown and LA need to bring the D!!! IMHO
I picked us in my brackets and not as a homer either. :group:

[BisonNation11]

Hope we can jump on them early, a big Tray dunk would be ideal. Really though we need to be ready to defend like crazy, we can score on Oklahoma no doubt, the big question will be is can we slow them down enough. I think we can.

I was talking to my boss about this, and one thing I've noticed when the boys have a great game, Tray hits a 3 somewhere in the first 3-5 possessions. If he hits his first 3 out of the box or gets a big slam, OU better look out. Hoping they can win the crowd over to their side quickly and turn this into the FGC team of '14

[NDSUFan_Sav]

They also start 3 guys that are 6'4" and under. Either Braun or Tray is going to have a smaller guy on him. I'm sure they're athletes so it's no like they won't be able to play bigger than that but both Braun and Tray are freakish athletes too and they're 6'7" each.

Their big scorers are #24 Hield, who's 6'4", at 16.8 ppg and #21 Clark, who's 6'7", at 15.3 ppg. Kory Brown locks up #24 and Tray makes life difficult for #21. If any team has a mismatch advantage it'll be the Bison IMO.

Tray could struggle with Clark hard to say and I actually expect Braun to guard him. LA may be guarding Hield or Kory will I am sure we'll swap the matchups.

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[NDSUstudent]

Saul is on KFGO for an hour tonight for Bison feedback. Starting at 6:07.

[SamsRams]

Tray could struggle with Clark hard to say and I actually expect Braun to guard him. LA may be guarding Hield or Kory will I am sure we'll swap the matchups.

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Good thing with this team is thet can switch on all screens.

[HoopsBison]

Lots of really good pub for the program and NDSU today, Saul is just the man for the job too. Does a great job pimping everything NDSU and the community, and damnit he does pretty good job coaching as well, were lucky to have him.

Congrats again to all the players and coaches, been a damn fun ride!

[SamsRams]

That would be a herculean defensive effort against a team as proficient offensively as Oklahoma. I think the Bison need to score 80 to win this game.

Watch their last game against texas. They can go really cold really fast. Ndsu will not race them in a track meet. This should go way under 150

[ndsubison1]

There is nothing more unpredictable in the NCAA tournament then three point shooting, OU seems to love the three. If they aren't shooting it well this will be a very tight game.

Bison need to make them uncomfortable from behind the arc, the longer the game is close the more pressure will rest on their shoulders. In 2009 when we played KU they were a team that had been to NCAA tournament handling school, this OU team hasn't. Big difference if the game gets tight.

Also need to control the game in the half-court. Grind them out and do not let them get going in transition.

last couple of weeks our defense has gotten better. we've been guarding the perimeter a little better. although we did give some open looks to ipfw and they hit them in the 1st half. it doesnt look like they have a guy down low we have to sag off of so we can focus on the outside. i also like our ability to switch screens at pretty much any position

[MNLonghorn10]

i took NDSU to win, without hesitation in my shaggybevo bracket.

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[Tatanka]

i took NDSU to win, without hesitation in my shaggybevo bracket.

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The bag of dicks is a nice touch. Wait what?

[westnodak93bison]

http://www.betus.com.pa/sportsbook/lines.aspx Sooners favored by 4

[ndsubison1]

watching a previous game of Oklahomas. I think we can score on them. Just gotta defend the 3 ball. They shoot well all over FT included. Sprangler looks physical and moves well. They like to bring him out and set picks which will draw Bjorklund outside (if he guards him). I think Kading could come in and matchup a little better. I think Trayvonn has a big game as I dont really see anybody same size and big who can keep him off boards and defend him outside too since Clark will likely be on Braun. I think they try to pressure us a bit and make us cough it up. Their bench doesnt really impress me

[missingnumber7]

Does it worry anyone else that so many people are picking NDSU to win? I know that if we were in OU's shoes it would all be fuel to come out with the pedal to floor and make it a no contest. Maybe I'm worried about nothing. I hope that our guys are keeping their noses to the grindstone and not eating up all the media frenzy and go out there and play their game.

[GRAFTONBISON]

Couple thoughts this morning....

Anybody else get the same feeling about this game as the 2007 football game vs. Minnesota? We went into the 2006 football game not knowing what to expect but proved we could compete. In 2007 everybody thought we had a chance to knock off the Gophers. Now, bring those thoughts over to basketball. We went into the 2009 NCAA Tournament not knowing how we would compete as a very good mid major team with Kansas but again proved we could compete. In 2014 everybody thinks we have a chance to knock off the Sooners. Now is the time for our basketball program to replicate the next step our football program took by winning a game in the NCAA Tournament (or more).

Reading ndsubison1's preview of OK above, it reminds me of what UN_ did to us earlier in the season. We had a terrible time containing their guards after the initial screens and it sounds like OK may try to do the same things. I have felt very positive about this matchup all week but this scares me some this morning. We have improved tremendously on defense since the embarrassment in Grand Forks and hopefully they can use that as a learning experience for this matchup?

[Bisonator98]

Does it worry anyone else that so many people are picking NDSU to win? I know that if we were in OU's shoes it would all be fuel to come out with the pedal to floor and make it a no contest. Maybe I'm worried about nothing. I hope that our guys are keeping their noses to the grindstone and not eating up all the media frenzy and go out there and play their game.

I don't think either team is too concerned with what the "experts" are saying. They don't have time to listen to the media anyway. They got 2-3 days to get ready for each other. Go Bison!!!

[bisonaudit]

We're not good at defending the three, which is a problem because Oklahoma takes and makes a lot of them.

I wouldn't tell Bjork to play conservatively and I wouldn't take him out if he gets in "foul trouble". Stick with your rotation. It's crazy to me why coaches voluntarily sit guys when they otherwise wouldn't just because, maybe, they might foul out. Play your best players.

[Bisonator98]

We're not good at defending the three, which is a problem because Oklahoma takes and makes a lot of them.

I wouldn't tell Bjork to play conservatively and I wouldn't take him out if he gets in "foul trouble". Stick with your rotation. It's crazy to me why coaches voluntarily sit guys when they otherwise wouldn't just because, maybe, they might foul out. Play your best players.

Well when your best players foul out with 10-12 minutes to go, then what? You can't go the last 10 minutes with backups and expect to win games. Games are won or lost in the last few minutes most of the time unless it's clearly a blowout. That's basketball.

[bisonaudit]

Well when your best players foul out with 10-12 minutes to go, then what? You can't go the last 10 minutes with backups and expect to win games. Games are won or lost in the last few minutes most of the time unless it's clearly a blowout. That's basketball.

But you can go 10 minutes in the middle of the first half, voluntarily, guaranteed; weighted against the possibility that they could foul out, maybe? Don't get it.

[CAS4127]

Well when your best players foul out with 10-12 minutes to go, then what? You can't go the last 10 minutes with backups and expect to win games. Games are won or lost in the last few minutes most of the time unless it's clearly a blowout. That's basketball.

Coaches are paid to make in-game decisions, not to out think themselves pre-game. Saul needs to dance with the team he brought and adjust as things play out. He's done it before and needs to just do it again.


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[Bison"FANatic"]

But you can go 10 minutes in the middle of the first half, voluntarily, guaranteed weighted against the possibility that they could foul out, maybe? Don't get it.

Yes because you can control how out of control the game could possibly get and if you need to bring your guy back in early during the first 30 minutes of the game. Basketball is managed all the time to be in position for the last half of the second half. You can do all you want and be up double digits in the early second half but if you don't have your players on the floor to stop the run at the end of the game the lead early doesn't matter. It is all about positioning yourself for the last basically 5 minutes.

Heck what was Nebraska up against Ohio State last weekend 18 or close to it and they couldn't stop the onslaught at the end and lost the game. Makes no difference that they were up big they ended up losing and thats all that counts. Basketball is a very streaky game and coaching it is all about managing those streaks.

Heck we had a huge problem with streaks last year as there were many games that we went 6-8 minutes without scoring and it seemed like it was at the end of the first half but thats beside the point. Heck the championship game last week was the same way. How long were the teams stuck tied at 48 at the end of the game. It is that situation that you want to be able to have your best player in the game not fouled out sitting on the bench. Given the choice of having your best player sitting early in the game or at the end a coach will pick him sitting early every time.

The great thing towards the end of the this year is the emergence of Aaberg as it allows us to take Bjorkland out without a major fall off. A fall off but not as much as it was at the beginning of the year when Bjorkland seemed to be getting into foul trouble often.

[bisonaudit]

Yes because you can control how out of control the game could possibly get and if you need to bring your guy back in early during the first 30 minutes of the game. Basketball is managed all the time to be in position for the last half of the second half. You can do all you want and be up double digits in the early second half but if you don't have your players on the floor to stop the run at the end of the game the lead early doesn't matter. It is all about positioning yourself for the last basically 5 minutes.

Heck what was Nebraska up against Ohio State last weekend 18 or close to it and they couldn't stop the onslaught at the end and lost the game. Makes no difference that they were up big they ended up losing and thats all that counts. Basketball is a very streaky game and coaching it is all about managing those streaks.

Heck we had a huge problem with streaks last year as there were many games that we went 6-8 minutes without scoring and it seemed like it was at the end of the first half but thats beside the point. Heck the championship game last week was the same way. How long were the teams stuck tied at 48 at the end of the game. It is that situation that you want to be able to have your best player in the game not fouled out sitting on the bench. Given the choice of having your best player sitting early in the game or at the end a coach will pick him sitting early every time.

The great thing towards the end of the this year is the emergence of Aaberg as it allows us to take Bjorkland out without a major fall off. A fall off but not as much as it was at the beginning of the year when Bjorkland seemed to be getting into foul trouble often.

This isn't the choice. The choice is between your best player definitely playing fewer minutes than he otherwise would and maybe playing fewer minutes than he otherwise would. I agree that coaches manage the game roughly as you describe. Who's on the court when and who's on the court together matters. So why screw that up just because an otherwise competent defender happens to pick up his second foul somewhat earlier than he typically does.

Coaches don't sit guys with fouls because it's the best strategy for winning, they do it because its the best strategy for not looking bad when you don't win. There's no down side for this team or this coach on Thursday so there's no reason to voluntarily sit your best players just because they pick up an extra foul early. Stick with your ideal rotation, Saul.

[GradBison]

This isn't the choice. The choice is between your best player definitely playing fewer minutes than he otherwise would and maybe playing fewer minutes than he otherwise would. I agree that coaches manage the game roughly as you describe. Who's on the court when and who's on the court together matters. So why screw that up just because an otherwise competent defender happens to pick up his second foul somewhat earlier than he typically does.

Coaches don't sit guys with fouls because it's the best strategy for winning, they do it because its the best strategy for not looking bad when you don't win. There's no down side for this team or this coach on Thursday so there's no reason to voluntarily sit your best players just because they pick up an extra foul early. Stick with your ideal rotation, Saul.

I enjoy a good debate as much as the next guy, and I respect those who think outside the box and go against the majority and are not afraid to show it. That being said, I'm going to side with the multitude of college and pro coaches practice of taking out players in foul trouble. I disagree with your assessment that it's not the best strategy to winning, if it weren't it wouldn't be a strategy that's so widely adopted.

Go Bison! Kick some Sooner butt.

[CAS4127]

I enjoy a good debate as much as the next guy, and I respect those who think outside the box and go against the majority and are not afraid to show it. That being said, I'm going to side with the multitude of college and pro coaches practice of taking out players in foul trouble. I disagree with your assessment that it's not the best strategy to winning, if it weren't it wouldn't be a strategy that's so widely adopted.

Go Bison! Kick some Sooner butt.

I thought the orginal proposition was to sit Bjorkland some in first have whether in foul trouble or not, just to ensure his presence on court at end. To that notion, I disagree with, and I believe BAudit does too, and is replying to that particular proposition.

[GradBison]

I thought the orginal proposition was to sit Bjorkland some in first have whether in foul trouble or not, just to ensure his presence on court at end. To that notion, I disagree with, and I believe BAudit does too, and is replying to that particular proposition.

Oh if that's the case then of course you don't sit him if he's NOT in foul trouble. Not sure if that's with audit meant, see below.



I wouldn't tell Bjork to play conservatively and I wouldn't take him out if he gets in "foul trouble". Stick with your rotation. It's crazy to me why coaches voluntarily sit guys when they otherwise wouldn't just because, maybe, they might foul out. Play your best players.

[Bison"FANatic"]

Coaches don't sit guys with fouls because it's the best strategy for winning, they do it because its the best strategy for not looking bad when you don't win.

I totally disagree with this statement and will leave it at that. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

[BisonAccountant44]

I enjoy a good debate as much as the next guy, and I respect those who think outside the box and go against the majority and are not afraid to show it. That being said, I'm going to side with the multitude of college and pro coaches practice of taking out players in foul trouble. I disagree with your assessment that it's not the best strategy to winning, if it weren't it wouldn't be a strategy that's so widely adopted.

Go Bison! Kick some Sooner butt.

Group think doesn't make it correct. It's the same theory as going for it on 4th/going for 2 more often. Statistically it's a no brainer, but very few coaches make the proper choice to maximize their chances of winning. It's coaching not to lose vs. coaching to win.

[GradBison]

Group think doesn't make it correct. It's the same theory as going for it on 4th/going for 2 more often. Statistically it's a no brainer, but very few coaches make the proper choice to maximize their chances of winning. It's coaching not to lose vs. coaching to win.

I'm going to trust the experts (the coaches) on this one. Not everything can be turned into a "Money Ball" type situation, although statisticians and accountants would probably love that. ;)

[Bisonator98]

Coaches are paid to make in-game decisions, not to out think themselves pre-game. Saul needs to dance with the team he brought and adjust as things play out. He's done it before and needs to just do it again.


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We were talking about foul trouble. Yes by all means play your best players when you can but when they foul out early you are doing your team a disservice by not keeping them available as long as possible.

[HoopsBison]

Players also aren't able to play aggressive on defense and tend to become total liabilities when foul trouble occurs. Really depends on the game time and situation whether you roll the dice or not.

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[North Side]

Marshall fouled out of what? 75% of the game this year? We can't afford him in foul trouble at all. Bruan also needs to be in the game from the start not like IPFW.

Oklahoma is going to look at IPFW and Ohio St. game tape on how to shut down Marshall and Braun.

[Bison Bridge Guy]

Marshall fouled out of what? 75% of the game this year? We can't afford him in foul trouble at all. Bruan also needs to be in the game from the start not like IPFW.

Oklahoma is going to look at IPFW and Ohio St. game tape on how to shut down Marshall and Braun.

He fouled out of 5 games. See stats.

http://www.gobison.com/documents/2013/11/8/NDSU-MBB-Combined.pdf?id=272

[Ndsu84]

I don't see what they'd learn from ipfw about Braun. He was sick.

[Tatanka]

I don't see what they'd learn from ipfw about Braun. He was sick.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............

[Ndsu84]

Saul needs to bring in coach klieman just to get a little extra defense mojo. Of course the whole team may foul out if they hit that hard.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Saul needs to bring in coach klieman just to get a little extra defense mojo. Of course the whole team may foul out if they hit that hard.

Saul is going to do just fine. He proved that to us this year.

[Ndsu84]

Saul is going to do just fine. He proved that to us this year.

Not saying he won't. But klieman's championship momentum is surely contagious!

[bisonboone11]

I don't see what they'd learn from ipfw about Braun. He was sick.

I'll be honest, I haven't watched a lot of games this year, but I did watch the IPFW game, and I was wondering, does Braun have a tendency of letting it get into his head if he's not on early? I just had that feeling during the IPFW game. It seemed like he wasn't in the game mentally until he hit that 3 as the shot clock was winding down. I had a feeling before he took that shot that he would make it because he didn't have time to think about whether or not he should be shooting. After that, he seemed to have his confidence back and took over the game.

I know this doesn't affect the Oklahoma game, I'm just curious if this is a tendency of his.

[tcbison]

I'll be honest, I haven't watched a lot of games this year, but I did watch the IPFW game, and I was wondering, does Braun have a tendency of letting it get into his head if he's not on early? I just had that feeling during the IPFW game. It seemed like he wasn't in the game mentally until he hit that 3 as the shot clock was winding down. I had a feeling before he took that shot that he would make it because he didn't have time to think about whether or not he should be shooting. After that, he seemed to have his confidence back and took over the game.

I know this doesn't affect the Oklahoma game, I'm just curious if this is a tendency of his.

Braun didn't even warm up with the team before the IPFW because he had a migraine headache so bad that he was having troubles with his vision. The people at Sanford cleared him right before the game but he wasn't himself and I think he willed the team to victory at the end.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I'll be honest, I haven't watched a lot of games this year, but I did watch the IPFW game, and I was wondering, does Braun have a tendency of letting it get into his head if he's not on early? I just had that feeling during the IPFW game. It seemed like he wasn't in the game mentally until he hit that 3 as the shot clock was winding down. I had a feeling before he took that shot that he would make it because he didn't have time to think about whether or not he should be shooting. After that, he seemed to have his confidence back and took over the game.

I know this doesn't affect the Oklahoma game, I'm just curious if this is a tendency of his.

Simple answer....No

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[NDSUFan_Sav]

Braun didn't even warm up with the team before the IPFW because he had a migraine headache so bad that he was having troubles with his vision. The people at Sanford cleared him right before the game but he wasn't himself and I think he willed the team to victory at the end.

This!!!

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[bisonboone11]

Braun didn't even warm up with the team before the IPFW because he had a migraine headache so bad that he was having troubles with his vision. The people at Sanford cleared him right before the game but he wasn't himself and I think he willed the team to victory at the end.

Ok, cool. Thanks for the info.

[westnodak93bison]

Their players are thinking this will be an easy game. Human nature has them thinking OK and Big 12 are superior to ND and Summit. If we keep it close they tighten up.

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[Heisenberg]

Hello all, Oklahoma alum here. Just wanted to chime in since I didnt see any OU people really posting on here giving another perspective. Firstly the tourney is the tourney and anything can happen at any time. Upsets are normal and expected. To say defeating OU is an upset would be an understatement. A case can be made that OU lives and dies by the three, as they are one of the best shooting teams, much less 3 point shooting teams in the country. They have 5 different guys who can make 3's all day. Two shot over 40% from 3 point land, and another shoots 39.7%. Two others shoot 38% and 36% respectively. And they shoot a lot. ALmost too much. To put that into perspective your best 3 point shooter(stats wise) Braun has 41 3s. Our leading shooter has 89.

Tourney time definitely isnt the best time to be relying on that, but it is what it is and they took 2nd place in what many consider the best conference in the country this year. When your biggest man is 6'8 you play the cards you're dealt. Its not often you can stop 5 guys from 3 point shots, but it can happen. They have a grand total 1 game where they lost by double digits; an 11 point loss to at the time #1 MSU- and OU plays tougher competition. Every other loss under 10 points, so they are in just about every game. Defensively not stalwarts but not a huge deal for them because they can keep pace and score with anyone.

It'll be a fun game, it's all about matchups. They're really young but coached as well as anyone around. They lost their top 3 scorers from last year and 4 out of 5 starters now average double figures. Spangler is the outlier at 9.9 ppg. I expect OU to win, but not until the last few minutes of the game where their athleticism and tempo will just end up being too much for NDSU. Not harping on them, this strategy has worked all season.

Cant wait until thursday.

[roadwarrior]

The Bison team has arrived in Spokane.

[Heisenberg]

Their players are thinking this will be an easy game. Human nature has them thinking OK and Big 12 are superior to ND and Summit. If we keep it close they tighten up.

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They might secretly think that in the back of their minds, but they will not play like that. Their coach will not allow them to underestimate anyone. I expect both teams to leave it all out on the floor.

[IndySooner]

Since there are a lot of assumptions being made in this thread, let me tell you a little bit about the OU team.

1) OU has been undersized in almost every game they've played this season. The only time size was really an issue was against Embiid. The second time around, they did a much better job of guarding Embiid, doubling down and closing out on shooters. It's why they had a chance at the end of the Kansas game in Lawrence.
2) I keep seeing comparisons of Denver. Trust me, OU isn't Denver. It's a team that gets up and down the floor, runs a weave offense primarily and shoots a lot of threes. If they're making threes, they're as good as anyone in the country. If not...well, see the Big 12 Tournament.
3) Buddy Hield is the key to the offense. When he's clicking, OU is scoring. When he's not, it can get lean. That said, for most of the year, all five starters scored in double digits on average. Spangler has struggled offensively as of late.
4) Talent-wise, OU will be much more like Ohio State and Notre Dame than anyone else you've played this year.
5) The other thing I keep seeing is that size will bother us. Texas is big. West Virginia is big. Baylor is big. Kansas State is big. Iowa State is big. Oklahoma State is big. Kansas is big. All are more athletic that NDSU. I think OU will be okay.

All of this said, this is the NCAA Tournament. It's built on Cinderella stories. OU will have to play well to win. If OU plays well, though, there won't be any question.

Good luck and enjoy.

[IndySooner]

Their players are thinking this will be an easy game. Human nature has them thinking OK and Big 12 are superior to ND and Summit. If we keep it close they tighten up.

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Trust me, the ESPN and CBS picks are being trumpeted to the team constantly. This won't be a situation where OU overlooks anyone.

[Hammersmith]

A small reason I like our odds is because we get more of our points in close, while the Sooners get them from three. I've noticed that teams often struggle from range when playing their first game in the wide open caverns of the NCAA tourney sites. That open space behind the hoop can cause depth perception problems. IIRC, it hurt us in the Metrodome back in '09. Now of course the effects vary from team to team and player to player. But, if it does play a factor, it should help us more than hurt us. But I don't know jack-s about basketball. So there's that.

[IndySooner]

A small reason I like our odds is because we get more of our points in close, while the Sooners get them from three. I've noticed that teams often struggle from range when playing their first game in the wide open caverns of the NCAA tourney sites. That open space behind the hoop can cause depth perception problems. IIRC, it hurt us in the Metrodome back in '09. Now of course the effects vary from team to team and player to player. But, if it does play a factor, it should help us more than hurt us. But I don't know jack-s about basketball. So there's that.

This is the thing that scares me the most.

[Heisenberg]

A small reason I like our odds is because we get more of our points in close, while the Sooners get them from three. I've noticed that teams often struggle from range when playing their first game in the wide open caverns of the NCAA tourney sites. That open space behind the hoop can cause depth perception problems. IIRC, it hurt us in the Metrodome back in '09. Now of course the effects vary from team to team and player to player. But, if it does play a factor, it should help us more than hurt us. But I don't know jack-s about basketball. So there's that.


A fair point, having never actually played on a basketball team I never really considered this. It'd definitely be more of a factor for OU since they shoot a lot. But these guys are good, they shoot as well on the road as they do at home- including unfamiliar arenas. But if it's a problem for 1 guy, it sure is nice to have 4 others who can step up.

[MNLonghorn10]

This thread sucks now

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[cbline]

A small reason I like our odds is because we get more of our points in close, while the Sooners get them from three. I've noticed that teams often struggle from range when playing their first game in the wide open caverns of the NCAA tourney sites. That open space behind the hoop can cause depth perception problems. IIRC, it hurt us in the Metrodome back in '09. Now of course the effects vary from team to team and player to player. But, if it does play a factor, it should help us more than hurt us. But I don't know jack-s about basketball. So there's that.

Spokane Arena website says that its basketball capacity is 11,736. Looks like a typical arena configuration of that size, so no wide open spaces like the Metrodome had.

[IndySooner]

This thread sucks now

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Yeah, I almost quoted one of your posts, but it was too bad. I gave up.

[westnodak93bison]

Few other advantages for NDSU. Veteran leadership, hungry team(their last chance), hungry coach could get his pay day or chance at a bigger job, crowd will be on our side(locals love Cinderella), this is a bigger deal for NDSU than OU, and I will be wearing my lucky Bison shirt! Go Bison!

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[stevdock]

I think we'll have a good idea after the first 5 minutes of the game. If we are playing well at that point, we'll be no worse than in the game the whole way. If we are playing like against IPFW, it could get to be a long game very quickly.

[ndsubison1]

Since there are a lot of assumptions being made in this thread, let me tell you a little bit about the OU team.

1) OU has been undersized in almost every game they've played this season. The only time size was really an issue was against Embiid. The second time around, they did a much better job of guarding Embiid, doubling down and closing out on shooters. It's why they had a chance at the end of the Kansas game in Lawrence.
2) I keep seeing comparisons of Denver. Trust me, OU isn't Denver. It's a team that gets up and down the floor, runs a weave offense primarily and shoots a lot of threes. If they're making threes, they're as good as anyone in the country. If not...well, see the Big 12 Tournament.
3) Buddy Hield is the key to the offense. When he's clicking, OU is scoring. When he's not, it can get lean. That said, for most of the year, all five starters scored in double digits on average. Spangler has struggled offensively as of late.
4) Talent-wise, OU will be much more like Ohio State and Notre Dame than anyone else you've played this year.
5) The other thing I keep seeing is that size will bother us. Texas is big. West Virginia is big. Baylor is big. Kansas State is big. Iowa State is big. Oklahoma State is big. Kansas is big. All are more athletic that NDSU. I think OU will be okay.

All of this said, this is the NCAA Tournament. It's built on Cinderella stories. OU will have to play well to win. If OU plays well, though, there won't be any question.

Good luck and enjoy.

we are more athletic than you think and can attack/score in a variety of ways

[IndySooner]

we are more athletic than you think and can attack/score in a variety of ways

Everyone at this point is athletic, but you're not going to try to compare your athleticism to Top-25 teams, are you? Baylor, Oklahoma State, Iowa State and Kansas are four of the most athletic teams in the country. They out-athlete OU every time.

[Hammersmith]

Spokane Arena website says that its basketball capacity is 11,736. Looks like a typical arena configuration of that size, so no wide open spaces like the Metrodome had.

Well, crap. Pictures show it's a little worse than normal, but not too bad. Pretty typical two level facility built for hockey. Bottom level is full bowl, top level is horseshoe. Stands behind the basket have a shallow rise like all hockey/basketball combo facilities(think Scheels Center).

[NDSUstudent]

I'm not sure where these Denver comparisons came from, they do defend like each other but offensively the only common trait they share is they love the three ball. Denver wants to play at a snails pace, OU wants to get out and run.

Maybe Notre Dame or Delaware are the best comparisons.

[bisonboone11]

Since there are a lot of assumptions being made in this thread, let me tell you a little bit about the OU team.

1) OU has been undersized in almost every game they've played this season. The only time size was really an issue was against Embiid. The second time around, they did a much better job of guarding Embiid, doubling down and closing out on shooters. It's why they had a chance at the end of the Kansas game in Lawrence.
2) I keep seeing comparisons of Denver. Trust me, OU isn't Denver. It's a team that gets up and down the floor, runs a weave offense primarily and shoots a lot of threes. If they're making threes, they're as good as anyone in the country. If not...well, see the Big 12 Tournament.
3) Buddy Hield is the key to the offense. When he's clicking, OU is scoring. When he's not, it can get lean. That said, for most of the year, all five starters scored in double digits on average. Spangler has struggled offensively as of late.
4) Talent-wise, OU will be much more like Ohio State and Notre Dame than anyone else you've played this year.
5) The other thing I keep seeing is that size will bother us. Texas is big. West Virginia is big. Baylor is big. Kansas State is big. Iowa State is big. Oklahoma State is big. Kansas is big. All are more athletic that NDSU. I think OU will be okay.

All of this said, this is the NCAA Tournament. It's built on Cinderella stories. OU will have to play well to win. If OU plays well, though, there won't be any question.

Good luck and enjoy.

Out of curiosity, I checked to see how big those teams are compared to NDSU. I wasn't sure who were officially the starters for each team, so I just went off of the 5 guys for each team that have the most minutes per game. NDSU's are listed at 6-3, 6-7, 6-7, 6-4, 6-8 (two under 6-7). Texas is 6-1, 6-2, 5-11, 6-9, 6-8 (three are 6-2 or shorter). WVU is 6-1, 6-3, 6-4, 6-9, 6-1 (four are 6-4 or shorter). Oklahoma State is 6-3, 6-4, 6-7, 5-11, 6-8 (three are 6-4 or shorter). Kansas and Baylor appear to be bigger than NDSU. Kansas State and Iowa State look to be very similar to NDSU in size.

Do you have other info that shows Texas, WVU, and Oklahoma State are bigger than that? I'm just curious why you threw out the names of those teams when they appear to be quite a bit smaller than NDSU.

[IndySooner]

Out of curiosity, I checked to see how big those teams are compared to NDSU. I wasn't sure who were officially the starters for each team, so I just went off of the 5 guys for each team that have the most minutes per game. NDSU's are listed at 6-3, 6-7, 6-7, 6-4, 6-8 (two under 6-7). Texas is 6-1, 6-2, 5-11, 6-9, 6-8 (three are 6-2 or shorter). WVU is 6-1, 6-3, 6-4, 6-9, 6-1 (four are 6-4 or shorter). Oklahoma State is 6-3, 6-4, 6-7, 5-11, 6-8 (three are 6-4 or shorter). Kansas and Baylor appear to be bigger than NDSU. Kansas State and Iowa State look to be very similar to NDSU in size.

Do you have other info that shows Texas, WVU, and Oklahoma State are bigger than that? I'm just curious why you threw out the names of those teams when they appear to be quite a bit smaller than NDSU.

Nope. Was going on what I saw in person. West Virginia plays very big. I'm surprised they're not bigger than that. Same with Texas. I think both may go with a bigger lineup against OU. That would make sense.

[IndySooner]

Well, crap. Pictures show it's a little worse than normal, but not too bad. Pretty typical two level facility built for hockey. Bottom level is full bowl, top level is horseshoe. Stands behind the basket have a shallow rise like all hockey/basketball combo facilities(think Scheels Center).

Looks like shooting will be difficult on one side, not so much on the other.

[Bigtime1]

Sooner fan here.

Looking forward to the match-up with two contrasting styles. Just wanted to let you know that OUHoops.com is the most active OU hoops board out there as I saw you guys talking about some other Sooner boards. We would love to have some Bison (Bizon) fans on there.

One thing that did strike me as interesting was how some of you are ragging on the state of Oklahoma. Now there aren't many states that us native Okies can get bragging rights over but I found it humorous that North Dakotans were talking smack.

May the best team win on Thursday. According to many experts, you guys may as well be the 5 seed. I think Ryan Spangler's production (OU's main big and the leading rebounder in the Big 12) will be a huge factor.

Boomer Sooner

-bt

[gotts]

Sooner fan here.

Looking forward to the match-up with two contrasting styles. Just wanted to let you know that OUHoops.com is the most active OU hoops board out there as I saw you guys talking about some other Sooner boards. We would love to have some Bison (Bizon) fans on there.

One thing that did strike me as interesting was how some of you are ragging on the state of Oklahoma. Now there aren't many states that us native Okies can get bragging rights over but I found it humorous that North Dakotans were talking smack.

May the best team win on Thursday. According to many experts, you guys may as well be the 5 seed. I think Ryan Spangler's production (OU's main big and the leading rebounder in the Big 12) will be a huge factor.

Boomer Sooner

-bt

Worst part of my drive back from Texas in January was in northern Oklahoma!

[bisonboone11]

Nope. Was going on what I saw in person. West Virginia plays very big. I'm surprised they're not bigger than that. Same with Texas. I think both may go with a bigger lineup against OU. That would make sense.

Sounds good. Yeah, they definitely could've gone with a bigger lineup against you guys.

[ndsubison1]

Everyone at this point is athletic, but you're not going to try to compare your athleticism to Top-25 teams, are you? Baylor, Oklahoma State, Iowa State and Kansas are four of the most athletic teams in the country. They out-athlete OU every time.

never said i was comparing us to them

[ndsubison1]

these guys seem way better than the ku invasion we had in 09 :p

[Heisenberg]

To Bisons,

What is your best win all year? I see you've played one ranked team #3 and got beaten by 17 points. OU's worst loss all year was to #1 MSU by 11. I just dont see the level of competition you have faced to stack up with the body of work OU has had. In that I mean to say OU is more proven, has defeated better competition all year long and doing so in a conference where they are consistently outmatched in terms of size. You might say they're a scrappy bunch. I guess there's nothing wrong with being confident but it helps to be realistic too. That said OU is very young, and hungry. OU was bad for a few years, overhauled the program and they're finally worth talking about again. So i honestly feel they are as hungry as NDSU to get some wins in the tourney.

[Rock]

To Bisons,

What is your best win all year? I see you've played one ranked team #3 and got beaten by 17 points. OU's worst loss all year was to #1 MSU by 11. I just dont see the level of competition you have faced to stack up with the body of work OU has had. In that I mean to say OU is more proven, has defeated better competition all year long and doing so in a conference where they are consistently outmatched in terms of size. You might say they're a scrappy bunch. I guess there's nothing wrong with being confident but it helps to be realistic too. That said OU is very young, and hungry. OU was bad for a few years, overhauled the program and they're finally worth talking about again. So i honestly feel they are as hungry as NDSU to get some wins in the tourney.

To Sooner:

K-State

[TAILG8R]

To Bisons,

What is your best win all year? I see you've played one ranked team #3 and got beaten by 17 points. OU's worst loss all year was to #1 MSU by 11. I just dont see the level of competition you have faced to stack up with the body of work OU has had. In that I mean to say OU is more proven, has defeated better competition all year long and doing so in a conference where they are consistently outmatched in terms of size. You might say they're a scrappy bunch. I guess there's nothing wrong with being confident but it helps to be realistic too. That said OU is very young, and hungry. OU was bad for a few years, overhauled the program and they're finally worth talking about again. So i honestly feel they are as hungry as NDSU to get some wins in the tourney.

FYI - There are no Bisons only Bison. And not that it matters on a message board but it is pronounced with a hard z sound, Bi zun. Those two misuses of our name will get people riled up on here.

[Professor Chaos]

To Bisons,

What is your best win all year? I see you've played one ranked team #3 and got beaten by 17 points. OU's worst loss all year was to #1 MSU by 11. I just dont see the level of competition you have faced to stack up with the body of work OU has had. In that I mean to say OU is more proven, has defeated better competition all year long and doing so in a conference where they are consistently outmatched in terms of size. You might say they're a scrappy bunch. I guess there's nothing wrong with being confident but it helps to be realistic too. That said OU is very young, and hungry. OU was bad for a few years, overhauled the program and they're finally worth talking about again. So i honestly feel they are as hungry as NDSU to get some wins in the tourney.
OU's youth (a.k.a. inexperience) and reliance on the three ball is why I like the matchup from NDSU's perspective. NDSU is as efficient offensively as any team Oklahoma has seen this year. If OU is hitting their 3s then NDSU will have a tough time winning. If not, NDSU has the ability to slow the game down while still maintaining offensive efficiency, frustrate the young OU squad, and are very capable of pulling the upset. Those guys in Vegas who have Oklahoma as a 4 point favorite aren't dumb but NDSU has some clear advantages as well.

[bisonboone11]

To Bisons,

What is your best win all year? I see you've played one ranked team #3 and got beaten by 17 points. OU's worst loss all year was to #1 MSU by 11. I just dont see the level of competition you have faced to stack up with the body of work OU has had. In that I mean to say OU is more proven, has defeated better competition all year long and doing so in a conference where they are consistently outmatched in terms of size. You might say they're a scrappy bunch. I guess there's nothing wrong with being confident but it helps to be realistic too. That said OU is very young, and hungry. OU was bad for a few years, overhauled the program and they're finally worth talking about again. So i honestly feel they are as hungry as NDSU to get some wins in the tourney.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe our best win would be a 19-point win over Delaware, who is a #13 seed in the tourney. You are correct that OU has played a more difficult schedule. I don't think there is any arguing that.

[BisonAccountant44]

These guys are pretty tame so far. I am surprised that it took this long for the "we're from the big 12, you haven't seen anything like us, you don't have the athletes, we should beat you just by showing up, but I'm gonna throw out a CYA statement about anything being possible in the tournament anyway just in case" brigade to get here though.

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[NDSUstudent]

To Bisons,

What is your best win all year? I see you've played one ranked team #3 and got beaten by 17 points. OU's worst loss all year was to #1 MSU by 11. I just dont see the level of competition you have faced to stack up with the body of work OU has had. In that I mean to say OU is more proven, has defeated better competition all year long and doing so in a conference where they are consistently outmatched in terms of size. You might say they're a scrappy bunch. I guess there's nothing wrong with being confident but it helps to be realistic too. That said OU is very young, and hungry. OU was bad for a few years, overhauled the program and they're finally worth talking about again. So i honestly feel they are as hungry as NDSU to get some wins in the tourney.

Our best win, was Notre Dame. It was back when they had Jerian Grant who was an All-ACC player and they were a bubble type of team. Delaware was a decent win, they are a 13 seed and we ran them out of our gym. WMU is decent as well and we were pounding them on the road until we got a bit sloppy at the end of the game.

The thing is we played a very tough non-conference schedule, against a slate of teams that played a wide variety of styles. I believe our non-conference schedule was rated in the top 20 in the nation. There is nothing OU can throw at us that we haven't already seen. This is a battle tested group.

OU is the better team but in one game in March anything can happen. All the pressure is on you, our guys are playing with house money right now.

[Bigtime1]

These guys are pretty tame so far. I am surprised that it took this long for the "we're from the big 12, you haven't seen anything like us, you don't have the athletes, we should beat you just by showing up, but I'm gonna throw out a CYA statement about anything being possible in the tournament anyway just in case" brigade to get here though.

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Your mods took 2 days to approve me.

I think most OU fans are pretty reasonable. We had some lean years after Blake Griffin left.

On the inexperience note,

Same 5 guys have started every game this year. All of our sophomores have a lot of experience with Soph Ryan Spangler having a transfer year. I'm not too concerned about inexperience.

[Bigtime1]

To Sooner:

K-State

That was pretty entertaining to watch!

[HerdBoy]

Thursday is going to be a blast. Damn it's only Tuesday.

[NDSUstudent]

So far OU's fans seem very classy, a lot better than the KU troll invasion of 2009. They made things almost unbearable.

[SportsLover]

To Bisons,

What is your best win all year? I see you've played one ranked team #3 and got beaten by 17 points. OU's worst loss all year was to #1 MSU by 11. I just dont see the level of competition you have faced to stack up with the body of work OU has had. In that I mean to say OU is more proven, has defeated better competition all year long and doing so in a conference where they are consistently outmatched in terms of size. You might say they're a scrappy bunch. I guess there's nothing wrong with being confident but it helps to be realistic too. That said OU is very young, and hungry. OU was bad for a few years, overhauled the program and they're finally worth talking about again. So i honestly feel they are as hungry as NDSU to get some wins in the tourney.

Thats probably why you received a 5 and we recieved a 12 seed. Honestly for me the big thing is if we are able to slow you guys down enough. With that we need to move the ball around like we usually do and find the right (high percentage for each player) shots. If we go cold to start the game and allow OU to run up and down the court, we might be in trouble. Should be a fun game if we play defense like we have a lot of times this year it will probably come down to the last few minutes. Brown and LA really need to stay out of foul trouble, Bjorklund needs to play great switch defense on the screens Spangler likes to set up top. Just some rube anaylsis.

[Bison power]

I am in the house and pumped. But after reading this post on a OU site I don't like our chances. OU has beat some really good teams and we haven't played anywhere close to these type teams. OU finished in sole position of 2nd place in a conference with 7 tournament teams. OU has won 10 games against tournament teams. Its insanity to pick us to beat OU.

NDSU has won 10 games against teams with records above .500. Those games are Western Michigan, Bryant, Notre Dame, Delaware, Towson, Utah Valley, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW. They beat IPFW and South Dakota State twice So they have beaten 8 teams that are above .500. Bryant is a D-II. So they have beaten 7 teams with records above .500 in D-I basketball. I don't think any of those teams made the Tournament.

Oklahoma has beaten Mercer, Tulsa, ISU, OSU, OSU, Texas, Texas, KSU, Baylor, Baylor, that are in the Tournament. OU also beat WVU, TAMU CC, A&M with winning records. Tech, Alabama and Seton Hall did not have good records this year but I suspect all 3 would win NDSU conference or be extremely competitive in that conference.

[ouisone]

These guys are pretty tame so far. I am surprised that it took this long for the "we're from the big 12, you haven't seen anything like us, you don't have the athletes, we should beat you just by showing up, but I'm gonna throw out a CYA statement about anything being possible in the tournament anyway just in case" brigade to get here though.

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If it makes you feel better, I'm a Sooner fan who respects the NDSU team and expects a good game from the Bison. The Big XII IS a great conference, but I don't necessarily feel we're inherently superior. Like you, however, I am confident in my team and believe if the Sooners play the way they're capable, we have a good chance to advance. Anyhow, hope the Bison and Sooners represent their universities and states well in Spokane.

[Bisonator98]

I am in the house and pumped. But after reading this post on a OU site I don't like our chances. OU has beat some really good teams and we haven't played anywhere close to these type teams. OU finished in sole position of 2nd place in a conference with 7 tournament teams. OU has won 10 games against tournament teams. Its insanity to pick us to beat OU.

NDSU has won 10 games against teams with records above .500. Those games are Western Michigan, Bryant, Notre Dame, Delaware, Towson, Utah Valley, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW. They beat IPFW and South Dakota State twice So they have beaten 8 teams that are above .500. Bryant is a D-II. So they have beaten 7 teams with records above .500 in D-I basketball. I don't think any of those teams made the Tournament.

Oklahoma has beaten Mercer, Tulsa, ISU, OSU, OSU, Texas, Texas, KSU, Baylor, Baylor, that are in the Tournament. OU also beat WVU, TAMU CC, A&M with winning records. Tech, Alabama and Seton Hall did not have good records this year but I suspect all 3 would win NDSU conference or be extremely competitive in that conference.

Shit we're screwed. :rofl:

[NDSUstudent]

I am in the house and pumped. But after reading this post on a OU site I don't like our chances. OU has beat some really good teams and we haven't played anywhere close to these type teams. OU finished in sole position of 2nd place in a conference with 7 tournament teams. OU has won 10 games against tournament teams. Its insanity to pick us to beat OU.

NDSU has won 10 games against teams with records above .500. Those games are Western Michigan, Bryant, Notre Dame, Delaware, Towson, Utah Valley, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW. They beat IPFW and South Dakota State twice So they have beaten 8 teams that are above .500. Bryant is a D-II. So they have beaten 7 teams with records above .500 in D-I basketball. I don't think any of those teams made the Tournament.

Oklahoma has beaten Mercer, Tulsa, ISU, OSU, OSU, Texas, Texas, KSU, Baylor, Baylor, that are in the Tournament. OU also beat WVU, TAMU CC, A&M with winning records. Tech, Alabama and Seton Hall did not have good records this year but I suspect all 3 would win NDSU conference or be extremely competitive in that conference.

Bryant is DI and last time I checked Delaware and Western Michigan were in the NCAA tournament.

A Bison fan would know these things...you must be a Sooner.

[Bisonator98]

Bryant is DI and last time I checked Delaware and Western Michigan were in the NCAA tournament.

A Bison fan would know these things...you must be a Sooner.

Not to mention we lost the first game to IPFW. Yeah definite Sooner fan.

[No_Skill]

Not to mention we lost the first game to IPFW. Yeah definite Sooner fan.

Also not to mention the join date of yesterday.

[NDSUstudent]

What gave it away...the join date of yesterday?

That and that post was copy/pasted directly from OU's board.

[344Johnson]

I am in the house and pumped. But after reading this post on a OU site I don't like our chances. OU has beat some really good teams and we haven't played anywhere close to these type teams. OU finished in sole position of 2nd place in a conference with 7 tournament teams. OU has won 10 games against tournament teams. Its insanity to pick us to beat OU.

NDSU has won 10 games against teams with records above .500. Those games are Western Michigan, Bryant, Notre Dame, Delaware, Towson, Utah Valley, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW. They beat IPFW and South Dakota State twice So they have beaten 8 teams that are above .500. Bryant is a D-II. So they have beaten 7 teams with records above .500 in D-I basketball. I don't think any of those teams made the Tournament.

Oklahoma has beaten Mercer, Tulsa, ISU, OSU, OSU, Texas, Texas, KSU, Baylor, Baylor, that are in the Tournament. OU also beat WVU, TAMU CC, A&M with winning records. Tech, Alabama and Seton Hall did not have good records this year but I suspect all 3 would win NDSU conference or be extremely competitive in that conference.

Obvious sooner is obvious. Fun fact about Oklahoma.... Oh... That's right... There is none.

[No_Skill]

I am in the house and pumped. But after reading this post on a OU site I don't like our chances. OU has beat some really good teams and we haven't played anywhere close to these type teams. OU finished in sole position of 2nd place in a conference with 7 tournament teams. OU has won 10 games against tournament teams. Its insanity to pick us to beat OU.

NDSU has won 10 games against teams with records above .500. Those games are Western Michigan, Bryant, Notre Dame, Delaware, Towson, Utah Valley, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW. They beat IPFW and South Dakota State twice So they have beaten 8 teams that are above .500. Bryant is a D-II. So they have beaten 7 teams with records above .500 in D-I basketball. I don't think any of those teams made the Tournament.

Oklahoma has beaten Mercer, Tulsa, ISU, OSU, OSU, Texas, Texas, KSU, Baylor, Baylor, that are in the Tournament. OU also beat WVU, TAMU CC, A&M with winning records. Tech, Alabama and Seton Hall did not have good records this year but I suspect all 3 would win NDSU conference or be extremely competitive in that conference.


This post reminds me of the following post...not sure why.

http://ouhoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=434902&postcount=22

[TAILG8R]

This post reminds me of the following post...not sure why.

http://ouhoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=434902&postcount=22

Total coincidence.

[MNLonghorn10]

Sooner fan here.

Looking forward to the match-up with two contrasting styles. Just wanted to let you know that OUHoops.com is the most active OU hoops board out there as I saw you guys talking about some other Sooner boards. We would love to have some Bison (Bizon) fans on there.

One thing that did strike me as interesting was how some of you are ragging on the state of Oklahoma. Now there aren't many states that us native Okies can get bragging rights over but I found it humorous that North Dakotans were talking smack.

May the best team win on Thursday. According to many experts, you guys may as well be the 5 seed. I think Ryan Spangler's production (OU's main big and the leading rebounder in the Big 12) will be a huge factor.

Boomer Sooner

-bt
North Dakota may not be anything special...but it isn't filled with meth like Oklahoma is, and it has a ton of money.

[MNLonghorn10]

One thing the okies here haven't trounced on yet, is you dont know what you're going to get with the big 12. ou's best wins away from ou are @ Texas and @ Baylor. The Texas win was nice because Texas was playing some good ball. The baylor win was before Baylor turned it on. @ oSu was without smart.

Lots of teams in this league lose the majority of their away games and are really uncomfortable away from their own confines. Hence why KU struggled away from Phog more than normal but still managed to win the regular season title.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Nope. Was going on what I saw in person. West Virginia plays very big. I'm surprised they're not bigger than that. Same with Texas. I think both may go with a bigger lineup against OU. That would make sense.

Texas doesn't have height but got a big that's like 500 pounds, right mnlonghorn IALTO.

But for real to you OU fans we know you have a good team there's no questions about it. As a KU fan I am quite familiar team with OU and the big 12. Me personally I would rather play OU than Baylor, ISU, KU, Texas, but if you guys are on it could be a big loss 15+ for us I just don't see that happening.

Buddy Hield is legit im curious if we'll throw LA or Brown on him. Clark could have a big game and may be the difference maker. Yes our big is 6'8 but plays very well down low thats why hes one of the best fg% in the country.


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[tjbison]

I am in the house and pumped. But after reading this post on a OU site I don't like our chances. OU has beat some really good teams and we haven't played anywhere close to these type teams. OU finished in sole position of 2nd place in a conference with 7 tournament teams. OU has won 10 games against tournament teams. Its insanity to pick us to beat OU.

NDSU has won 10 games against teams with records above .500. Those games are Western Michigan, Bryant, Notre Dame, Delaware, Towson, Utah Valley, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW. They beat IPFW and South Dakota State twice So they have beaten 8 teams that are above .500. Bryant is a D-II. So they have beaten 7 teams with records above .500 in D-I basketball. I don't think any of those teams made the Tournament.

Oklahoma has beaten Mercer, Tulsa, ISU, OSU, OSU, Texas, Texas, KSU, Baylor, Baylor, that are in the Tournament. OU also beat WVU, TAMU CC, A&M with winning records. Tech, Alabama and Seton Hall did not have good records this year but I suspect all 3 would win NDSU conference or be extremely competitive in that conference.


good story bro.....

[MNLonghorn10]

Texas has bodies. Ibeh, Lammert and big Cameron Ridley are all like 6'9-6'10. Holmes is also decently tall. Those bodies would wear down Bjorkland IMO which is why i think Texas would be a bad match up for NDSU.

Look its pretty simple. If ou doesn't miss behind the arc, NDSU's in deep shit. If they're off their game, NDSU's got the experience, talent and intelligence to take advantage of it. They dont turn the ball over and take smart shots and will have a great shot at winning.

[Bigtime1]

Texas doesn't have height but got a big that's like 500 pounds, right mnlonghorn IALTO.

But for real to you OU fans we know you have a good team there's no questions about it. As a KU fan I am quite familiar team with OU and the big 12. Me personally I would rather play OU than Baylor, ISU, KU, Texas, but if you guys are on it could be a big loss 15+ for us I just don't see that happening.

Buddy Hield is legit im curious if we'll throw LA or Brown on him. Clark could have a big game and may be the difference maker. Yes our big is 6'8 but plays very well down low thats why hes one of the best fg% in the country.


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Cam is an enigma. If he makes his first shot, then he could go for 30 easy. Just as easy, he could have 4. Buddy Hield has been much more consistent.

Hornfan,

You would do meth too if you had to be near Texans...
Texas does, has and always will suck!

[Bisonator98]

I wanna see Tray blocking 3's like he's swattin flies! Go Bison!!!!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Cam is an enigma. If he makes his first shot, then he could go for 30 easy. Just as easy, he could have 4. Buddy Hield has been much more consistent.

Hornfan,

You would do meth too if you had to be near Texans...
Texas does, has and always will suck!

That is why I think Clark is your possible factor on how you do.

Also we are one of the best fg shooting teams in the country and efficient. We have some lengthy guards that could cause havoc for you.

You're obv the better team in the best conference in the country but it is only one game and this sr class is hungry and want to prove something. I do like this draw but there are things that worry me so we'll see.


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[Bigtime1]

That is why I think Clark is your possible factor on how you do.

Also we are one of the best fg shooting teams in the country and efficient. We have some lengthy guards that could cause havoc for you.

You're obv the better team in the best conference in the country but it is only one game and this sr class is hungry and want to prove something. I do like this draw but there are things that worry me so we'll see.


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I have been impressed with your ball movement and shot selection. I am not too worried out your guard length. There will be long stretches of the game that OU will have 6-3, 6-3, 6-4 on the perimeter. The Sooner bigs are athletic and they switch everything and can cover wings.

[MiccoMacey]

Good luck to you guys in the upcoming game. You certainly have the attention and respect of most of us Sooner fans. The radio announcers here are well aware of your coach and team and speak highly of each.

It should be an enjoyable game to watch, regardless the outcome.

Again, good luck to you guys.

[ndsubison1]

To Bisons,
What is your best win all year? I see you've played one ranked team #3 and got beaten by 17 points. OU's worst loss all year was to #1 MSU by 11. I just dont see the level of competition you have faced to stack up with the body of work OU has had. In that I mean to say OU is more proven, has defeated better competition all year long and doing so in a conference where they are consistently outmatched in terms of size. You might say they're a scrappy bunch. I guess there's nothing wrong with being confident but it helps to be realistic too. That said OU is very young, and hungry. OU was bad for a few years, overhauled the program and they're finally worth talking about again. So i honestly feel they are as hungry as NDSU to get some wins in the tourney.

meh. that was in december. both are completely different teams now. ou isnt a world beater. btw ohio st is more athletic and has more length than OU

[westnodak93bison]

You're kidding, right? NDSU might be able to pull off the upset against OU in basketball, but we'd win by 40-plus in football.

Do what? Dude, you Okie fans are delusional. You sound like one of my employees who grew up in OKC. Right now you are not Barry Switzer's Sooners. Not even close.
The most unbiased comparison is Sagarin. See final ratings. Sooners would be maybe 2 point favorites on a neutral field. Far cry from 40 and Bob Stoops ain't a big game coach.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/11/21/football-four-sagarin-speaks-north-dakota-state-bison/3645173/

from the link above "Sagarin accepts that some fans won't be able to fathom that his current ratings would mean North Dakota State would be favored by roughly 2½ points against Oklahoma and 4½ points against Texas on a neutral field."

and with the following quote I think he implies you are intellectually challenged.

"People enjoy basketball, but it's kind of a religion to them in football," Sagarin says. "Everyone loves the Butler-Duke game (the 2010 NCAA final that Duke won by two points). People treasure that. "(But in football) they don't seem to accept that (possibility) intellectually."

On a humorous note.....below are the words to the school song "Boomer Sooner". Can you master it? 17 words.

Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner, OK U!

Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Oklahoma, OK U!

I'm a Sooner born and Sooner bred
and when I die, I'll be Sooner dead
Rah Oklahoma, Rah Oklahoma
Rah Oklahoma, OK U!

Oh, and the last time NDSU played in the dance our AD scheduled a FB game with the opposing team (KU). Hopefully Gene Taylor can repeat history and get OU to play us. May as well be in the Fargodome since OU would beat us by 40 bahhhhh!

[Bisonator98]

Do what? Dude, you Okie fans are delusional. You sound like one of my employees who grew up in OKC. Right now you are not Barry Switzer's Sooners. Not even close.
The most unbiased comparison is Sagarin. See final ratings. Sooners would be maybe 2 point favorites on a neutral field. Far cry from 40 and Bob Stoops ain't a big game coach.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/11/21/football-four-sagarin-speaks-north-dakota-state-bison/3645173/

from the link above "Sagarin accepts that some fans won't be able to fathom that his current ratings would mean North Dakota State would be favored by roughly 2½ points against Oklahoma and 4½ points against Texas on a neutral field."

and with the following quote I think he implies you are intellectually challenged.

"People enjoy basketball, but it's kind of a religion to them in football," Sagarin says. "Everyone loves the Butler-Duke game (the 2010 NCAA final that Duke won by two points). People treasure that. "(But in football) they don't seem to accept that (possibility) intellectually."

On a humorous note.....below are the words to the school song "Boomer Sooner". Can you master it? 17 words.

Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner
Boomer Sooner, OK U!

Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Oklahoma, Oklahoma
Oklahoma, OK U!

I'm a Sooner born and Sooner bred
and when I die, I'll be Sooner dead
Rah Oklahoma, Rah Oklahoma
Rah Oklahoma, OK U!

Now that's catchy! :rofl:

[MNLonghorn10]

You know what almost rhymes with sooner dead?

sooner meth.


Oklahomas entire state is in the meth belt.

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/22119000/ngbbs4cf4249d4fb6a.jpg

These toothless trailer trash meth heads are going to get smoked by a 12 seed, and it's going to be awesome.

http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r620-e17495ee1cf20842eaf841ed82cf01e4.jpg

Look at their sideline cheerleader, Toby Keith. Nice manpris and blouse combo you fool.

[CAS4127]

You know what almost rhymes with sooner dead?

sooner meth.


Oklahomas entire state is in the meth belt.

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/22119000/ngbbs4cf4249d4fb6a.jpg

These toothless trailer trash meth heads are going to get smoked by a 12 seed, and it's going to be awesome.

http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r620-e17495ee1cf20842eaf841ed82cf01e4.jpg

Look at their sideline cheerleader, Toby Keith. Nice manpris and blouse combo you fool.

I'm really starting to like this BB THREAD!!


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[Tatanka]

http://jerkassclothing.com/images/2.0/popular/oklahoma-worst-state-ever-t-shirt.jpg

[ndsubison1]

I am in the house and pumped. But after reading this post on a OU site I don't like our chances. OU has beat some really good teams and we haven't played anywhere close to these type teams. OU finished in sole position of 2nd place in a conference with 7 tournament teams. OU has won 10 games against tournament teams. Its insanity to pick us to beat OU.

NDSU has won 10 games against teams with records above .500. Those games are Western Michigan, Bryant, Notre Dame, Delaware, Towson, Utah Valley, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW, South Dakota State, IPFW. They beat IPFW and South Dakota State twice So they have beaten 8 teams that are above .500. Bryant is a D-II. So they have beaten 7 teams with records above .500 in D-I basketball. I don't think any of those teams made the Tournament.

Oklahoma has beaten Mercer, Tulsa, ISU, OSU, OSU, Texas, Texas, KSU, Baylor, Baylor, that are in the Tournament. OU also beat WVU, TAMU CC, A&M with winning records. Tech, Alabama and Seton Hall did not have good records this year but I suspect all 3 would win NDSU conference or be extremely competitive in that conference.

Its the tournament dude. Have you ever watched it? Also, youre not a Bison fan

P.S. Bryant is DI

[ndsubison1]

Texas doesn't have height but got a big that's like 500 pounds, right mnlonghorn IALTO.

But for real to you OU fans we know you have a good team there's no questions about it. As a KU fan I am quite familiar team with OU and the big 12. Me personally I would rather play OU than Baylor, ISU, KU, Texas, but if you guys are on it could be a big loss 15+ for us I just don't see that happening.

Buddy Hield is legit im curious if we'll throw LA or Brown on him. Clark could have a big game and may be the difference maker. Yes our big is 6'8 but plays very well down low thats why hes one of the best fg% in the country.


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Theres no doubt in my mind Brown will be on Hield

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I have been impressed with your ball movement and shot selection. I am not too worried out your guard length. There will be long stretches of the game that OU will have 6-3, 6-3, 6-4 on the perimeter. The Sooner bigs are athletic and they switch everything and can cover wings.

And we will have 6-4, 6-7 and 6-7 on the perimeter.

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[CAS4127]

Its the tournament dude. Have you ever watched it? Also, youre not a Bison fan

P.S. Bryant is DI

I got my first dunk over some 6' 4" AA guy in Okie between my junior-senior HS year while custom combining down there (rain break)! We can handle these guys. They got nothin' on us!!


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[Bigtime1]

And we will have 6-4, 6-7 and 6-7 on the perimeter.

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I understand that. Just pointing out that the Sooners won't have a bunch of midgets out there. Woodard is small, but that is it.

[1998braves64]

Was wondering when the Sooner boys would show up. They have nothing on the KU trolls yet though. Wow was that a hectic week. I remember reading thread after thread after thread that got started that week and spend an hour reading if you actually read them, after I awhile I just gave up. I wonder if Tony delayed the approvals on purpose so to avoid some of that! :biggrin:

[CAS4127]

Was wondering when the Sooner boys would show up. They have nothing on the KU trolls yet though. Wow was that a hectic week. I remember reading thread after thread after thread that got started that week and spend an hour reading if you actually read them, after I awhile I just gave up. I wonder if Tony delayed the approvals on purpose so to avoid some of that! :biggrin:

No, the Spooners just realized it was legal to use Internet across state lines. Once bitten, twice shy on the meth trade/imprisonment thing--along with bootlegging of course!


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[MNLonghorn10]

http://jerkassclothing.com/images/2.0/popular/oklahoma-worst-state-ever-t-shirt.jpg
you know what has to suck most about being an okie?

this is their most famous resident:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/basketball/ncaa/uploaded_images/durant-715105.jpg


It really is worse the worst state ever.

[SamsRams]

And it's necessary to state that they'd pummel us on a basketball thread? Whatever, looking forward to OU


You do realize this basketball thread would be a shell of itself if NDSUstudent wasnt posting in here. Some people specialize in steering threads into snow drifts, student is the exact opposite

[Hail bison]

You do realize this basketball thread would be a shell of itself if NDSUstudent wasnt posting in here. Some people specialize in steering threads into snow drifts, student is the exact opposite
Hope I'm not steering it into a snow drift. I respect the fact that he's a longtime contributor and I'm new. Not personal and he is a top MBB man. However, I am entitled to my opinion and I'll state it. Sorry to you, NDSU student if I offended. You seemed to be just fine with it

[Bison03]

So back to OU vs NDSU basketball......

[NDSUstudent]

Yeah, I am guilty of getting sucked in. Time to focus on the next 12 over 5 upset, no more football talk from me in this thread.

Hail Bison I am not offended, don't worry about it. Lets just focus on hoops.

[Hail bison]

Yeah, I am guilty of getting sucked in. Time to focus on the next 12 over 5 upset, no more football talk from me in this thread.

Hail Bison I am not offended, don't worry about it. Lets just focus on hoops.

Can't wait

[Mr. Burgundy]

My fear on selection Sunday is playing a team like a Cincy who absolutely eats you up, they are in your pants for breakfast, you can't breathe. You can't pass. They smother you and break your will. To get a team like Oklahoma, we can and will flat out score. They are a shooting team, they can go cold. I am not waying we will win, I am just saying this is a great draw. We could have played a really LONG and athletic team that will give us fits, this is a team that shoots a ton of threes. Which means they could blow us out of the gym, or they may shoot 30% from deep and we may stay in it. The longer we are in it, the better our chances. I can hear Saul now...late in the game...he will be laughing telling the guys the pressure is all on Oklahoma, "they are supposed to kick your ass, you better be having fun out there, you tell your kids about this shit." At that point you have Taylor Braun tell the others to get on his MF back because this is his team and they have a date with San Diego State. Marshall then puts his hand in first and they yell....BISON. This team is loose and they have the swag from Taylor. You can bet will pound the ball into Marshall repeatedly. I believe this is a team similar to Notre Dame, and I believe we can frustrate them. Both coaches will have their teams ready. When it is nut cutting time late in the big dance, you take the loose team with seniors because the expectations aren't on their back, and the crowd will be favoring the upset. I feel very similar to when we played K State. I fully expected us to go out there and play our game and win. I don't expect anything less from this group. Then we play with house money.

[1998braves64]

My fear on selection Sunday is playing a team like a Cincy who absolutely eats you up, they are in your pants for breakfast, you can't breathe. You can't pass. They smother you and break your will. To get a team like Oklahoma, we can and will flat out score. They are a shooting team, they can go cold. I am not waying we will win, I am just saying this is a great draw. We could have played a really LONG and athletic team that will give us fits, this is a team that shoots a ton of threes. Which means they could blow us out of the gym, or they may shoot 30% from deep and we may stay in it. The longer we are in it, the better our chances. I can hear Saul now...late in the game...he will be laughing telling the guys the pressure is all on Oklahoma, "they are supposed to kick your ass, you better be having fun out there, you tell your kids about this shit." At that point you have Taylor Braun tell the others to get on his MF back because this is his team and they have a date with San Diego State. Marshall then puts his hand in first and they yell....BISON. This team is loose and they have the swag from Taylor. You can bet will pound the ball into Marshall repeatedly. I believe this is a team similar to Notre Dame, and I believe we can frustrate them. Both coaches will have their teams ready. When it is nut cutting time late in the big dance, you take the loose team with seniors because the expectations aren't on their back, and the crowd will be favoring the upset. I feel very similar to when we played K State. I fully expected us to go out there and play our game and win. I don't expect anything less from this group. Then we play with house money.


What he said! Keep it close and this team can make it interesting at the end, just like Woodside did with ku I still think if one of those 3s( tveidt or nelson?)had fallen late in the game the ending would have possibly changed.

One or two shots can make a huge difference in games like this.





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[WYOBISONMAN]

Here's a question for you since we discussing the Bison v. Sooners...what if we were talking football? How awesome would that be? I wonder if Stoops would be his whiney bitch self and blame the refs again. What an asshat.

But yeah, serious question.

All I can say is you have a damn fine avatar!

[bisonsupporter]

If Wright can get a big dunk early, Felt knocking down a few 3's, Bison will be in good shape. Braun and Bjorkland can run a inside/outside game to keep the game close.

[tcbison]

I love that Taylor Braun gets to be close to home and a bunch of his family will get to watch him play. Should be a fun environment for a tournament game.

[SDbison]

How did this turn into a football thread. This should be about the basketball team and the great season they've had. I think it's kind of sad that most bison fans can't talk about anything without bringing up football. We could play Alabama in golf and some how its going to turn into a pissing match about how great the football team is. Its March and basketball is king now so lets give this team the support they deserve. Hopefully they can make a deep run into the tournament. I think the point is Bison basketball has the same passion as Bison football and will not be intimidated when playing a so called bigger school. This has nothing to do with the fans........its about the tradition the coaches and players hand from team to team over the years. I agree lets keep discussing basketball. Just beat OU on Thursday!

[SDbison]

I am not sure how viable a comparison Minnesota is in this situation. Minnesota is a very average team who has never ever really been more than a middle of the road non contender. I think those teams you guys can stick with. It's the elite teams with the elite talent you'll struggle against- and there's nothing wrong with that, great teams struggle against elite teams. There's a reason why 5* athletes out of high school are significantly more likely to make it in the NFL. I dont look at fbs recruiting but I imagine there arent any 5* and 4* talent signing with summit league teams. Usually it comes down to having the hosses in the trenches, which the elite teams excel at. Can't wait to hear your explanation after OU loses on Thursday.

[Heisenberg]

Can't wait to hear your explanation after OU loses on Thursday.

Well that entire post you quoted was in reference to football. I'd fly to Fargo and walk around campus in a diaper if OU ever lost to them in football. As far as basketball goes, if OU loses, there wont be any need for explanation. It is what it is. If they play like they've played most of the year, if they bring their A or even their B+ game, OU wins. I fully expect them to win but I wouldnt be shocked if they didnt. They're one of the younger teams around with 4 soph starters. But, those 4 soph starters average double figures in the toughest conference in the land. And they are one of the highest scoring teams around due to their play. It'll be a fun experience. Personally I am more concerned with SDSU.

[BisonJD]

I guess its easy to talk like that when you know an OU NDSU matchup will never happen on the gridiron. OU simply doesnt schedule teams from the lower division; they need the strength of schedule to stay high so they can make a case for the playoff. They usually schedule non con opponents that are traditionally very good programs. FSU, Miami, Oregon, UCLA, Tennessee, Alabama etc.

3790

we roll on Thursday

[Heisenberg]

And for what it's worth, just a couple of years ago, OU called us for a game. So don't say they wouldn't.

I wasn't aware, that's pretty cool. Sometimes when teams back out of games they have to really reach out to find a team with an open date. with the new playoff and they take SOS seriously, I doubt any contenders will be scheduling opponents in your division anymore. At this point just being in the top 4 can be splitting hairs.

[IndySooner]

Don't worry, guys. Our basketball threads always turn to football, too. Just one of the things about being a fan/alum of a football school.

As for basketball, I can't wait. I'm definitely intrigued by what NDSU will bring. Mostly, I just love the NCAA Tournament.

[Bisonator98]

OK guys I started a thread about OU/NDSU over on the FB forum go have at it and leave this to BB discusion.

[BisonTeacher]

I guess its easy to talk like that when you know an OU NDSU matchup will never happen

:rofl:

I don't know that. Im going off of what you said! OMG. butsouthernintelligence

I have no idea if it will ever happen. I am speaking from experience. Every other FBS team we have played has come in here saying we wont come close to beating them. And if you believe that...you have overlooked us.

[HerdBoy]

My fear on selection Sunday is playing a team like a Cincy who absolutely eats you up, they are in your pants for breakfast, you can't breathe. You can't pass. They smother you and break your will. To get a team like Oklahoma, we can and will flat out score. They are a shooting team, they can go cold. I am not waying we will win, I am just saying this is a great draw. We could have played a really LONG and athletic team that will give us fits, this is a team that shoots a ton of threes. Which means they could blow us out of the gym, or they may shoot 30% from deep and we may stay in it. The longer we are in it, the better our chances. I can hear Saul now...late in the game...he will be laughing telling the guys the pressure is all on Oklahoma, "they are supposed to kick your ass, you better be having fun out there, you tell your kids about this shit." At that point you have Taylor Braun tell the others to get on his MF back because this is his team and they have a date with San Diego State. Marshall then puts his hand in first and they yell....BISON. This team is loose and they have the swag from Taylor. You can bet will pound the ball into Marshall repeatedly. I believe this is a team similar to Notre Dame, and I believe we can frustrate them. Both coaches will have their teams ready. When it is nut cutting time late in the big dance, you take the loose team with seniors because the expectations aren't on their back, and the crowd will be favoring the upset. I feel very similar to when we played K State. I fully expected us to go out there and play our game and win. I don't expect anything less from this group. Then we play with house money.


Well said. OU are the ones feeling the pressure. OU(23-9) was ranked #21 in the final AP Poll and finished 2nd in the Big 12. Looking at their schedule they have lost 5 games since February 1. 2 of those games were against .500 or below teams(Texas Tech and West Virginia). As of late you got to think they have a chink in their armor that can be exposed.

[NorthernBison]

There is no question which team is the "better" team. Their #5 seed is evidence of that. I'm encouraged by the fact that our style of play should be a good counter to their strengths. We can be very balanced offensively, we play excellent defense, and we have been able to control tempo when we needed to. I like our chances to keep the game close to the end and, if that happens, I like the odds of our ability to score inside vs a team that relies quite a bit on the jump shot. Obviously, we need to avoid foul trouble and make them earn every bucket. We can do this.

[Mr_Meanor]

There is no question which team is the "better" team. Their #5 seed is evidence of that. I'm encouraged by the fact that our style of play should be a good counter to their strengths. We can be very balanced offensively, we play excellent defense, and we have been able to control tempo when we needed to. I like our chances to keep the game close to the end and, if that happens, I like the odds of our ability to score inside vs a team that relies quite a bit on the jump shot. Obviously, we need to avoid foul trouble and make them earn every bucket. We can do this.

I don't know if I would say the Bison play excellent defense. They don't guard the 3 point line that well which is a strength of OU. That scares me a little bit. I also think Marshall will be the key to the game for the Bison. He is going to have to command the low post and also keep Spangler from getting offensive rebounds. Spangler scares me a bit. I think people might overlook him. He is very active and can score by getting offensive boards for put backs. We will have to shut that down. I think Taylor will get his usual and we'll need Marshall to stay on the court and play a great game.

[HerdBoy]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10592667

:nod:

[thundarsdaddy]

I don't know if I would say the Bison play excellent defense. They don't guard the 3 point line that well which is a strength of OU. That scares me a little bit. I also think Marshall will be the key to the game for the Bison. He is going to have to command the low post and also keep Spangler from getting offensive rebounds. Spangler scares me a bit. I think people might overlook him. He is very active and can score by getting offensive boards for put backs. We will have to shut that down. I think Taylor will get his usual and we'll need Marshall to stay on the court and play a great game.

I agree, they love to shoot the three, but they are also well coached by Lon Krueger, that if the three's arent dropping, to put the ball on the floor and take it to the hole. Spells potential foul trouble for us no question. but if we play smart team defense, we can stop them, or just slow them down enough so that a great offensive effort by us can turn the table. Especially if we put the ball on the floor and get them in foul trouble. Seeing a few of their starters on the bench in foul trouble wouldnt hurt a thing?

[TAILG8R]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10592667

:nod:

This one is my favorite. - Wright dunk vs USD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80ie44XaGOw)

[bisonaudit]

I agree, they love to shoot the three, but they are also well coached by Lon Krueger, that if the three's arent dropping, to put the ball on the floor and take it to the hole. Spells potential foul trouble for us no question. but if we play smart team defense, we can stop them, or just slow them down enough so that a great offensive effort by us can turn the table. Especially if we put the ball on the floor and get them in foul trouble. Seeing a few of their starters on the bench in foul trouble wouldnt hurt a thing?

Unless there's a mechanical problem or their shot selection is bad that's actually not good coaching. You don't stop shooting the three just because you miss a few and I seriously doubt that Lon Krueger would coach that way.

[1998braves64]

This one is my favorite. - Wright dunk vs USD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80ie44XaGOw)

If he does something close to this in Spokane I like our chances. The unaffiliated crowd would immediately jump on the bandwagon.

[missingnumber7]

Look up the story behind the WVU loss. Travel issues, no sleep and getting to the arena 1 1/2 hours ahead of the game. Still almost, and should have, won the game.

Texas Tech was our worst game of the year. No doubt. Baylor was our worst half, but still came back and had a shot in that game.

There really aren't "chinks" in the armor. We're just not a great team. A very good team, but not a team that can have a down night and beat quality competition, which both Tech and WVU were once the season got going.

Bottom line: If OU shoots well, it won't be close. If not, you guys have a great shot at an upset.

Shooting great doesn't make a game a blow out. Playing great D and being effecient on the offensive end does. Our team scores a lot of baskets at the rim and can finish in close. Trading 3's for 2's isn't a great option, but in the end I have yet to see a team stay consistently hot for an entire game. Your going to miss at some point and there is a reason that our big has one of the best FG %'s and that as a team the Bison have one of the best offense efficiencies in the country (#6).

Its going to come down to several things, but the big thing is limiting second chances. That plays a big thing into your ability to run and control the tempo. I think that the ideal should be around 60-65 possessions, 10 less than what the Sooners are averaging. If that happens I think that all in all it could be a very good thing.

[bisonaudit]

Shooting great doesn't make a game a blow out. Playing great D and being effecient on the offensive end does. Our team scores a lot of baskets at the rim and can finish in close. Trading 3's for 2's isn't a great option, but in the end I have yet to see a team stay consistently hot for an entire game. Your going to miss at some point and there is a reason that our big has one of the best FG %'s and that as a team the Bison have one of the best offense efficiencies in the country (#6).

Its going to come down to several things, but the big thing is limiting second chances. That plays a big thing into your ability to run and control the tempo. I think that the ideal should be around 60-65 possessions, 10 less than what the Sooners are averaging. If that happens I think that all in all it could be a very good thing.

100% agree. We need to shorten the game. Increased variance improves our chances.

[GRAFTONBISON]

Don't remember seeing any discussion on this but does OU like to press and pressure full court or do they prefer to play a tough half court defense?

[IndySooner]

Don't remember seeing any discussion on this but does OU like to press and pressure full court or do they prefer to play a tough half court defense?

OU doesn't press a lot, but in the right situations, you'll see it.

Typically, it's a half court defense, but for most of the year, I wouldn't have called it "tough". It's gotten better as the year has gone on.

[NorthernBison]

I don't know if I would say the Bison play excellent defense. They don't guard the 3 point line that well which is a strength of OU. That scares me a little bit. I also think Marshall will be the key to the game for the Bison. He is going to have to command the low post and also keep Spangler from getting offensive rebounds. Spangler scares me a bit. I think people might overlook him. He is very active and can score by getting offensive boards for put backs. We will have to shut that down. I think Taylor will get his usual and we'll need Marshall to stay on the court and play a great game.

Yeah. Excellent was too much. I recognize our tendency to allow people to shoot treys. I guess I'm judging our overall defensive efficiency in relation to other teams rather than perfection.

We have a big task in front of us but I think many of our strengths match up well with the way OU plays the game. There are far worse match ups out there.

[BisonNation11]

Just thought I'd put this here... At least a part of Texas picks our side

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[SDbison]

Just thought I'd put this here... At least a part of Texas picks our side

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Now that's some team spirit!

[ndsubison1]

My fear on selection Sunday is playing a team like a Cincy who absolutely eats you up, they are in your pants for breakfast, you can't breathe. You can't pass. They smother you and break your will. To get a team like Oklahoma, we can and will flat out score. They are a shooting team, they can go cold. I am not waying we will win, I am just saying this is a great draw. We could have played a really LONG and athletic team that will give us fits, this is a team that shoots a ton of threes. Which means they could blow us out of the gym, or they may shoot 30% from deep and we may stay in it. The longer we are in it, the better our chances. I can hear Saul now...late in the game...he will be laughing telling the guys the pressure is all on Oklahoma, "they are supposed to kick your ass, you better be having fun out there, you tell your kids about this shit." At that point you have Taylor Braun tell the others to get on his MF back because this is his team and they have a date with San Diego State. Marshall then puts his hand in first and they yell....BISON. This team is loose and they have the swag from Taylor. You can bet will pound the ball into Marshall repeatedly. I believe this is a team similar to Notre Dame, and I believe we can frustrate them. Both coaches will have their teams ready. When it is nut cutting time late in the big dance, you take the loose team with seniors because the expectations aren't on their back, and the crowd will be favoring the upset. I feel very similar to when we played K State. I fully expected us to go out there and play our game and win. I don't expect anything less from this group. Then we play with house money.

bout time you posted :). our defense has picked it up last few week other than the lapses in the 1st half vs IPFW. I think our defensive numbers are a little misleading at this point.

thing i hate is everybody and their grandma is picking us. usually the trendy upset pick doesnt happen :banghead: