2014 Football season tickets

[roadwarrior]

Season ticket prices were increased $10 per seat across the board for 2014.

Sideline seats are now $185 and end zone seats are now $135.

Teammaker membership is still not required for sections 22, 23, 30, 31, 5, 6 and end zone seats.

[BisonTeacher]

Teammaker membership is still not required for sections 22, 23, 30, 31, 5, 6 and end zone seats.

So your saying i can get season tickets without priority points???? :rofl:

[CAS4127]

Season ticket prices were increased $10 per seat across the board for 2014.

Sideline seats are now $185 and end zone seats are now $135.

Teammaker membership is still not required for sections 22, 23, 30, 31, 5, 6 and end zone seats.

That's kinda misleading, Road! $10/6 = $1.67 per game the way I calculate things.


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[Bison Bridge Guy]

Season ticket prices were increased $10 per seat across the board for 2014.

Sideline seats are now $185 and end zone seats are now $135.

Teammaker membership is still not required for sections 22, 23, 30, 31, 5, 6 and end zone seats.

My invoice came with a letter stating that in 2015, a $25 per seat mandatory Team Maker "seat obligation" will be required for seats in rows A-N in sections 6-9, 22, and 24-31. What was not clear to me is if that is applied only if you are not a Team Maker already or if it is applied regardless. Anybody have insight on that?

[CAS4127]

My invoice came with a letter stating that in 2015, a $25 per seat mandatory Team Maker "seat obligation" will be required for seats in rows A-N in sections 6-9, 22, and 24-31. What was not clear to me is if that is applied only if you are not a Team Maker already or if it is applied regardless. Anybody have insight on that?

Is call and ask but, if you are quoting, I would say it means you are gonna need to become a TM in 15 to guarantee your seats. Fit it into budget easily by forgoing an eat-out 3-4 times and no problemo!


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[BisoninNWMN]

Got mine today also.

When does the season start.....way too long!!!!

[Bison"FANatic"]

I would guess if you are already giving to teammakers you could designate that for the seating obligation. You will only be able to deduct 80% of the seat obligation and anything above and beyond the $25 per seat will 100% tax deductable.

[Bison Bridge Guy]

Is call and ask but, if you are quoting, I would say it means you are gonna need to become a TM in 15 to guarantee your seats. Fit it into budget easily by forgoing an eat-out 3-4 times and no problemo!


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I joined TM last year (min level) and have had season tickets for six years in one of the sections noted in the letter. $25 per seat isn't a huge deal, but for a family of five like me it adds up. So I'm hoping my TM dues I'm already paying are good enough.

[bisonfanette]

Glad to see they are doing this!
Letter says in an effort to continue to fund a successful program, we will institute mandatory Team Makers dues for seats in A-N etc...beginning 2015 we will implement a $25.seating obligation per seat etc....
if you feel you need to relocate to an area with no Team Makers dues mandated, please make that request this year so we have more than one opportunity to meet your needs.

Separate letter states our 2014 Team Makers donation,& what we owe for 2014 season tickets.

[1998braves64]

I joined TM last year (min level) and have had season tickets for six years in one of the sections noted in the letter. $25 per seat isn't a huge deal, but for a family of five like me it adds up. So I'm hoping my TM dues I'm already paying are good enough.

Well either prepare for $25 a seat I would say from what the letter states or request to move to non TM required seats. What you've paid in previous years doesn't count towards current year. TM is a year in year out proposition. If you want those seats you will need to cough up the dough. I would think you could find $125 for 5 seats if I can find $200 for 2 seats.. trust me pretty sure I make less money than you do although you do have another mouth to feed from the sounds of it. Also can look into spreading your donation out over the year it doesn't all have to be paid up front either from what others have stated here. Only tickets have to be paid in full by April 1st from what I understand?

[bisonfanette]

So your saying i can get season tickets without priority points???? :rofl:

Oh Teach, just give em' $2,000. & get your 40 pts, & be on your way!!!

[56BISON73]

The Pony Express hasnt got to AR yet.

[56BISON73]

My invoice came with a letter stating that in 2015, a $25 per seat mandatory Team Maker "seat obligation" will be required for seats in rows A-N in sections 6-9, 22, and 24-31. What was not clear to me is if that is applied only if you are not a Team Maker already or if it is applied regardless. Anybody have insight on that?

A bought time.

[HerdBot]

This is good. Eventually the entire dome needs to be teammakers. Not enough seats.
If Montana can sell 20k season tickets... just saying

[SlickVic]

Fannete u needa donate and get coureside seats in the new arena u could be the dyan canon of ndsu hoops :-)

[MNLonghorn10]

So your saying i can get season tickets without priority points???? :rofl:
You wont be getting season tickets. The snail mail will get to you past the deadline and you'll be ef'd again.

[56BISON73]

Well either prepare for $25 a seat I would say from what the letter states or request to move to non TM required seats. What you've paid in previous years doesn't count towards current year. TM is a year in year out proposition. If you want those seats you will need to cough up the dough. I would think you could find $125 for 5 seats if I can find $200 for 2 seats.. trust me pretty sure I make less money than you do although you do have another mouth to feed from the sounds of it. Also can look into spreading your donation out over the year it doesn't all have to be paid up front either from what others have stated here. Only tickets have to be paid in full by April 1st from what I understand?

To spread your payment out YOU MUST CONTACT Simmers and tell him you are going to pay X amount on X date etc. I would contact him ASAP.

[Hail bison]

This is good. Eventually the entire dome needs to be teammakers. Not enough seats.
If Montana can sell 20k season tickets... just saying

I think you are right. I know two fairly wealthy guys who have tickets in the end zone and don't give a dime to team makers. On the other hand, it costs a lot for a family of five to go to all the games. Little bit torn on that

[BisonTeacher]

You wont be getting season tickets. The snail mail will get to you past the deadline and you'll be ef'd again.

Your thinking my check that that "never arrived". But yes...you are probably correct.


By "never arrived"...I mean ..that they lost.

[56BISON73]

Your thinking my check that that "never arrived". But yes...you are probably correct.


By "never arrived"...I mean ..that they lost.

Pick up the phone and use a credit card. No muss no fuss and you KNOW its all taken care off.

[BisonTeacher]

Pick up the phone and use a credit card. No muss no fuss and you KNOW its all taken care off.

Learned that lesson last year. Plus i think you can renew online with a card no?

You can bet I wont be sending a check!!!!

[BisonTeacher]

No muss no fuss.

Is this jeopardy btw???

A: What is something Whioux fans are currently saying Alex.

[SlickVic]

Adding 25 a seats kinda bush leeg why dont they sell beer 25 a seat would be chump change if that were the case...and arnt there still people who are paying basically nothin to sit in the best seats in the house or has that been resolved...ill hang up and listen P to da L

[56BISON73]

Is this jeopardy btw???

A: What is something Whioux fans are currently saying Alex.

Well done!!!!!!

[1998braves64]

Pick up the phone and use a credit card. No muss no fuss and you KNOW its all taken care off.


Learned that lesson last year. Plus i think you can renew online with a card no?

You can bet I wont be sending a check!!!!

Yup can do it all online now. Can do it 3am if you want naked after you finish watching porn Izzy style.

[Hail bison]

Adding 25 a seats kinda bush leeg why dont they sell beer 25 a seat would be chump change if that were the case...and arnt there still people who are paying basically nothin to sit in the best seats in the house or has that been resolved...ill hang up and listen P to da L
Good point. They should sell beer. Does anyone know how that revenue would be distributed?

[BisonAccountant44]

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To spread your payment out YOU MUST CONTACT Simmers and tell him you are going to pay X amount on X date etc. I would contact him ASAP.

Do you have to arrange that every year? When I joined last February I set up the monthly payments with the form, and this January I upped my yearly total so I've curious if it would update automatically. I sent an email asking through the my account on gobison a couple weeks but didn't an answer, so I've just been waiting for the end I'd this week when the normal withdrawal would happen to see how much they take.

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[bisonfanette]

Fannete u needa donate and get coureside seats in the new arena u could be the dyan canon of ndsu hoops :-)

Well Slicky ~ Cannon sure Loves those Lakers... & her curling iron! I don't know if I could pull that one off?!!
But seats in the new arena would be Sweet... (& I do donate!)

[bisonfanette]

I know two fairly wealthy guys who have tickets in the end zone and don't give a dime to team makers.

I think there's alot of ppl who don't. Some are within a "group" of 20-40 or so, who get season tickets & haven't pd anything to TM. Perhaps some just need a pep talk?!!

[StL Bison Fan]

I think there's alot of ppl who don't. Some are within a "group" of 20-40 or so, who get season tickets & haven't pd anything to TM. Perhaps some just need a pep talk?!!

Perhaps I can have their tickets? I need two more so if TM is too much for them, I'll add more to my donation!

[bisonfanette]

Maybe they just need some information. If the tickets are simply handed to them year after year, they probably don't even think about TM. Just sayin'!

[Hail bison]

I think there's alot of ppl who don't. Some are within a "group" of 20-40 or so, who get season tickets & haven't pd anything to TM. Perhaps some just need a pep talk?!!

Maybe a pep talk is all it takes. I used to just buy tickets to the games when you could get them. I even got free box seats a couple times a year from a business I patronize (that was cool in a way). For a lot of years it never occurred to me I should be investing in the program by supporting teammakers

[1998braves64]

I think there's alot of ppl who don't. Some are within a "group" of 20-40 or so, who get season tickets & haven't pd anything to TM. Perhaps some just need a pep talk?!!

But somebody has paid for that seat. All TM seats have a fee assigned to them. From what it looks like now though you can only have 12 per a "group" so some groups will technically have to be split up.

NDSU has to be pretty balanced with what they charge, the last year or 2 they probably could have had some dollar amount to every seat and people would have paid it, but 2009 would have been a tough sell. Hopefully we never see sub 500 for a long time again but if we get a few years of 7-4 6-5 8-3 and don't make playoffs every year, not everyone is going to want to pay a TM fee assigned to every seat. Or maybe that's just my wishful thinking hoping I can add a couple in the future! :hide:

[bisonfanette]

[QUOTE=For a lot of years it never occurred to me I should be investing in the program by supporting teammakers[/QUOTE]

Exactly! Not until you start reading all of this "warm & fuzzy stuff" from CAS & 56 !!! :)

[56BISON73]

But somebody has paid for that seat. All TM seats have a fee assigned to them. From what it looks like now though you can only have 12 per a "group" so some groups will technically have to be split up.

NDSU has to be pretty balanced with what they charge, the last year or 2 they probably could have had some dollar amount to every seat and people would have paid it, but 2009 would have been a tough sell. Hopefully we never see sub 500 for a long time again but if we get a few years of 7-4 6-5 8-3 and don't make playoffs every year, not everyone is going to want to pay a TM fee assigned to every seat. Or maybe that's just my wishful thinking hoping I can add a couple in the future! :hide:

That why they are starting out with only 25.00.

[1998braves64]

That why they are starting out with only 25.00.

And rows A-N too. :) I have no problem with how they've been doing it seems they're getting their ducks in a row. Warning people that previously didn't have to pay so they can at least get a couple shots to adjust their seats if need be.

[Hail bison]

Exactly! Not until you start reading all of this "warm & fuzzy stuff" from CAS & 56 !!! :)

That one went right over my head but ok bisonfanette. :)

[bisonfanette]

Ha! They're always encouraging BVillers to donate to TM, & how good it is... :)

[56BISON73]

And rows A-N too. :) I have no problem with how they've been doing it seems they're getting their ducks in a row. Warning people that previously didn't have to pay so they can at least get a couple shots to adjust their seats if need be.

At least they are getting notice a year in advance.
My seats went up 75.00 per seat and they didnt warn me. :rofl:

[Hail bison]

Ha! They're always encouraging BVillers to donate to TM, & how good it is... :)

Encouragement, intimidation. Whatever it takes. Cas tells me to donate. I will

[BisonTeacher]

Stupid question...

So when I renew...do I create a new ticket request? I know I probably wont get them anyway, but what I mean is...is last years request still "in line" in cyber space somewhere...or do I need to create a new request every year until I get tickets someday.

[Mayville Bison]

Stupid question...

So when I renew...do I create a new ticket request? I know I probably wont get them anyway, but what I mean is...is last years request still "in line" in cyber space somewhere...or do I need to create a new request every year until I get tickets someday.

Every year

[56BISON73]

Do you have to arrange that every year? When I joined last February I set up the monthly payments with the form, and this January I upped my yearly total so I've curious if it would update automatically. I sent an email asking through the my account on gobison a couple weeks but didn't an answer, so I've just been waiting for the end I'd this week when the normal withdrawal would happen to see how much they take.

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Every year is different. Call them. Make sure they document that you are on payments. I wouldnt wait for an email. Stuff like this you need to be proactive.

[Bison03]

One thing I like is that you can pay your Teammaker dues in installments.

[Gully]

One thing I like is that you can pay your Teammaker dues in installments.

No, no, no. Straight cash homey.

[BisonTeacher]

No, no, no. Straight cash homey.

Great. Now slicks impersonator has hacked Gullys account.

[StL Bison Fan]

No, no, no. Straight cash homey.
Don't care how you pay. Just Join!

[loudsilverado]

People seriously have to make payments on their season tickets? Please get a better job or stop buying things you can't afford, my god people.

[tjbison]

People seriously have to make payments on their season tickets? Please get a better job or stop buying things you can't afford, my god people.


it's not always a matter of afford, it's a choice

I know several wealthy people who donate to charities and choose to spread it out over 12 months.

[unbison]

People seriously have to make payments on their season tickets? Please get a better job or stop buying things you can't afford, my god people.
Payments on their donation not on tickets some give more then 100 dollars

[bison_by_blood]

Great. Now slicks impersonator has hacked Gullys account.

Hardly. There was punctuation and everything was spelled correctly.

[Hail bison]

Payments on their donation not on tickets some give more then 100 dollars

To me it shows real dedication to the program. People paying their dues in installments. Tells me they budget for it. It's that important to them

[HandoEX]

People seriously have to make payments on their season tickets? Please get a better job or stop buying things you can't afford, my god people.

People need to read better, too. Lol

[loudsilverado]

I just renewed my team makers and season tickets, I was able to spread it out over 84 months for a great low payment with no money down.

[bisonaudit]

If they're not charging you interest there's no reason not to go with the payment plan.

[loudsilverado]

If they're not charging you interest there's no reason not to go with the payment plan.

I was able to get 1.9% with my credit rating.

[BlueBisonRock]

How many travel hacking points?

[HandoEX]

If they're not charging you interest there's no reason not to go with the payment plan.

Dave Ramsey, is that you?

;)

[56BISON73]

People seriously have to make payments on their season tickets? Please get a better job or stop buying things you can't afford, my god people.

:facepalm:

[unbison]

I just renewed my team makers and season tickets, I was able to spread it out over 84 months for a great low payment with no money down.

Instead of being a total ass hole maybe you should be thankful these people make that commitment to ndsu

[loudsilverado]

Instead of being a total ass hole maybe you should be thankful these people make that commitment to ndsu

Remember when you were going to change your user name?

[56BISON73]

People seriously have to make payments on their season tickets? Please get a better job or stop buying things you can't afford, my god people.

My tickets including volleyball cost 455.00. The TM dues for those seats are 1450.00 Plus I donate on top of that. Are you saying that I cant afford my dues because I pay my TM dues out over 2-4 months?

[loudsilverado]

My tickets including volleyball cost 455.00. The TM dues for those seats are 1450.00 Plus I donate on top of that. Are you saying that I cant afford my dues because I pay my TM dues out over 2-4 months?

Just pay it all at once? I don't understand having to spread out that small of amount over time, you living on a fixed income?

[A1pigskin]

Got my invoice yesterday. Looking forward to the first game.

[unbison]

Remember when you were going to change your user name?
Says the condescending ass hole who has had as many usernames as lakes

[56BISON73]

Just pay it all at once? I don't understand having to spread out that small of amount over time, you living on a fixed income?

:facepalm:

[loudsilverado]

:facepalm:

No really, explain it to me, just pay it at once, really.

[loudsilverado]

Says the condescending ass hole who has had as many usernames as lakes

I've only had 2, ask Tony

[loudsilverado]

We aren't talking about buying a $40,000 car, we are talking about for PL, what $3000, or whatever you are going to brag about donating. If you seriously can't afford that in 1 shot, then you can't afford it at all.

[reformedUNDfan]

Just pay it all at once? I don't understand having to spread out that small of amount over time, you living on a fixed income?

some people don't like to put a 500-1000 dollar hole in their checking account all at once when they don't have to.

[BisonAccountant44]

We aren't talking about buying a $40,000 car, we are talking about for PL, what $3000, or whatever you are going to brag about donating. If you seriously can't afford that in 1 shot, then you can't afford it at all.

You've got it backwards. It has nothing to do with being able to afford it. If you are given the option to either spread out any payment over 12 months for free (no interest) or to make it all today you should almost always spread it out.

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[344Johnson]

A dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.... Mathematically...with zero or an interest rate lower than the rate at which your money is gaining interest...it is a better decision to spread the payments out in order to lessen the real cost of your investment.

I don't know if that's the case for these folks... But as long as they are paying I can't see an issue with it.

[1998braves64]

We aren't talking about buying a $40,000 car, we are talking about for PL, what $3000, or whatever you are going to brag about donating. If you seriously can't afford that in 1 shot, then you can't afford it at all.




It's called leveraging your wealth sure he can afford it but he can make money off the other money and not have to pay interest on tm dues.

Regardless who freaking cares, he's paying TM dues unlike some season ticket holders.





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[BisonHorns]

We aren't talking about buying a $40,000 car, we are talking about for PL, what $3000, or whatever you are going to brag about donating. If you seriously can't afford that in 1 shot, then you can't afford it at all.

I have to jump in because i am poor enough but we survive ahead of our bills. We dont take vacations to Mexico, we have never been on a cruise, my wife and i have only flown once, and our kids have not met Mickey Mouse. However we have not missed a Bison home game in many years. I maybe cant pay it all at once all the time but my kids trust that Dad has the Bison games covered. It isnt the cost that matters it is what you give up for what you love.
THE END

[1998braves64]

I have to jump in because i am poor enough but we survive ahead of our bills. We dont take vacations to Mexico, we have never been on a cruise, my wife and i have only flown once, and our kids have not met Mickey Mouse. However we have not missed a Bison home game in many years. I maybe cant pay it all at once all the time but my kids trust that Dad has the Bison games covered. It isnt the cost that matters it is what you give up for what you love.

THE END




Amen brother!





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[loudsilverado]

I don't care if it is zero interest, it's not a very large dollar amount you idiots. IT'S A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!

[BlueBisonRock]

I don't care if it is zero interest, it's not a very large dollar amount you idiots. IT'S A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!

Follow the math. I have a small amount left on my mortgage. I negotiated the rate to the high 2 percent range.

Every month, an amount that is less than the average 2 bedroom rent in Western ND gets paid to the bank. For a 4 bedroom home.

I could pay it off with no problem. However, I believe (and have found) that my investments are returning more than the high two percent. Every fraction of a percent of return I get above the rate for my mortgage is money in my pocket. And it buys more than just the beer we drink at teh tailgate.

(Stolen from Audit's analysis which unfortunately turned out to be too concise).

[TbonZach]

I don't care if it is zero interest, it's not a very large dollar amount you idiots. IT'S A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!

IT"S A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE THAN I HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

So, instead of not having the couple thousand dollars and NOT DONATING AT ALL, I choose to donate a COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS a month and spend the same amount.

[loudsilverado]

I get it, but it's $2,000. Seriously, $2,000. This isn't a mortgage, it's chump change. Prove to me that you are going to make any significant amount of money on $2,000 in 4 months, prove me wrong.

[loudsilverado]

IT"S A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE THAN I HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

So, instead of not having the couple thousand dollars and NOT DONATING AT ALL, I choose to donate a COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS a month and spend the same amount.

You are the problem with this country, constantly in debt buying things you can not afford.

[TbonZach]

I get it, but it's $2,000. Seriously, $2,000. This isn't a mortgage, it's chump change. Prove to me that you are going to make any significant amount of money on $2,000 in 4 months, prove me wrong.

I'm not going to make money. None at all. In fact, if I spend $2,000 right now, I'll lose money. I'll lose a significant amount of money.

[BisonNation11]

I get it, but it's $2,000. Seriously, $2,000. This isn't a mortgage, it's chump change. Prove to me that you are going to make any significant amount of money on $2,000 in 4 months, prove me wrong.

You sir are being a complete douche. You don't know people's financial situation and frankly it's none of your damn business. I have rent, my wife's school loans, utilities, gas, food, etc to pay for so yeah dropping that kind of coin all at once would kill us. Just be happy you're more financially set than others and we donate what we can when we can FOR THE SAME TEAM. Now do something productive and go vote for NDSU.

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[loudsilverado]

I'm not going to make money. None at all. In fact, if I spend $2,000 right now, I'll lose money. I'll lose a significant amount of money.

But paying $500 a month for 4 months totally will save you though...

[loudsilverado]

You sir are being a complete douche. You don't know people's financial situation and frankly it's none of your damn business. I have rent, my wife's school loans, utilities, gas, food, etc to pay for so yeah dropping that kind of coin all at once would kill us. Just be happy you're more financially set than others and we donate what we can when we can FOR THE SAME TEAM. Now do something productive and go vote for NDSU.

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Sounds like you need to be saving that season ticket payment for when your car breaks down, you get sick, kids get sick, etc...if you can't afford the tickets, you won't be able to afford fixing your car etc...

[TbonZach]

But paying $500 a month for 4 months totally will save you though...

It will. It'll save me from over-drafting my bank account. It'll save me going over my credit limit on my credit card. It'll save my credit score from taking a nose dive.

But you're right. Spending $2,000 at once is completely worth destroying my financials.

[Hail bison]

You are the problem with this country, constantly in debt buying things you can not afford.

Come on. Two thousand is a lot of money for a family. I pay about that and do it in one payment like you. There was a time in my life when it would have been tough.

[bisonfanette]

our kids have not met Mickey Mouse.

I'll take your kids to see Mickey!!! :)

[TbonZach]

Sounds like you need to be saving that season ticket payment for when your car breaks down, you get sick, kids get sick, etc...if you can't afford the tickets, you won't be able to afford fixing your car etc...

That's EXACTLY why we're spreading out the payments. So we can spend the extra cash in case of emergency.

Example 1:
Available money to spend: $4,000
Spend at once on donations: $2,000
Car repair: $2,500
Remaining total: -$500

Example 2:
Available money to spend: $4,000
Spend per month (4) on donations: $500
Car repair: $2,500
Remaining total: $1,000

Personally, I think the 2nd example sounds better

[loudsilverado]

That's EXACTLY why we're spreading out the payments. So we can spend the extra cash in case of emergency.

Example 1:
Available money to spend: $4,000
Spend at once on donations: $2,000
Car repair: $2,500
Remaining total: -$500

Example 2:
Available money to spend: $4,000
Spend per month (4) on donations: $500
Car repair: $2,500
Remaining total: $1,000

Personally, I think the 2nd example sounds better

Personally if I was you, I wouldn't buy tickets, you can't afford them.

[Hail bison]

Personally if I was you, I wouldn't buy tickets, you can't afford them.

I earned my money. You sound like a guy who was born with it. What guys like you don't understand is you may not always have it. I'm a conservative but quit with the Limbaugh bullshit

[loudsilverado]

I earned my money. You sound like a guy who was born with it. What guys like you don't understand is you may not always have it. I'm a conservative but quit with the Limbaugh bullshit

You got me, I was born with it, I don't even have a job right now because I don't need one. I also make every single game since I don't work, it is awesome.

[TbonZach]

Personally if I was you, I wouldn't buy tickets, you can't afford them.

Wait, wait, wait. Are you seriously suggesting that someone should STOP donating to NDSU if they can't donate all at once?

[loudsilverado]

Wait, wait, wait. Are you seriously suggesting that someone should STOP donating to NDSU if they can't donate all at once?

If they don't have money for food and clothes, then they shouldn't donate at all.

[1998braves64]

I didn't see anyone saying they are naked, you are seriously delusional man.

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[loudsilverado]

I didn't see anyone saying they are naked, you are seriously delusional man.

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Must be the smell of oil and cash.

[Hail bison]

Must be the smell of oil and cash.

Huh, oil money. That comes and goes quick. Got a family member who never had a pot to piss in. Came into some oil money and now he's an asshole just like you. You are talking big. Big hat no cattle

[56BISON73]

We aren't talking about buying a $40,000 car, we are talking about for PL, what $3000, or whatever you are going to brag about donating. If you seriously can't afford that in 1 shot, then you can't afford it at all.

Not saying I couldnt afford it in one shot. But to take care of EVERYthing that comes due at this time of year without having to dip in to our cushion money I do a simple thing called money management. Its a simple concept that even you could understand. Why you decided to try and make a derogatory point out of what I donate(of which you really dont know) is beyond me.

[56BISON73]

If they don't have money for food and clothes, then they shouldn't donate at all.

Go back and re-read his post. You created a scenario to fit your own narrative and didnt answer his question.

[td577]

If they don't have money for food and clothes, then they shouldn't donate at all.

You are being a dick. It really should be of no concern to you how someone donates money.


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[td577]

I did not know you could spread out donations. This will make my decision to move up in categories a lot easier since my disposable income only comes in large chunks a few times a year.

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[unbison]

Loudsilverado is a jackass it's just really that simple I really don't understand why he is allowed to post here and lakes isnt

[loudsilverado]

Not saying I couldnt afford it in one shot. But to take care of EVERYthing that comes due at this time of year without having to dip in to our cushion money I do a simple thing called money management. Its a simple concept that even you could understand. Why you decided to try and make a derogatory point out of what I donate(of which you really dont know) is beyond me.

You mean you aren't going to brag about how much you donate? I know nothing of money management, I don't have to.

[loudsilverado]

Loudsilverado is a jackass it's just really that simple I really don't understand why he is allowed to post here and lakes isnt

He just uses your log in anyways so what difference does it make?

[IndyBison]

What he's saying is if you don't have 6 months salary sitting in your savings account (and thus available to buy $2k worth of season tickets with a donation), you shouldn't be spending your money here. That's an admirable strategy and one that would be great for everyone to strive to achieve. If everyone did that however, I bet the FFD would not sell out. Raise your hand if you are fortunate enough to be in that financial situation. Congrats to everyone that is. Most of the families I know aren't that fortunate. This is also different than the person who puts themselves deeper and deeper into debt each month. When you live mostly paycheck to paycheck, you are driven by payments and do it especially if there are no interest payments.

[56BISON73]

You mean you aren't going to brag about how much you donate? I know nothing of money management, I don't have to.

With you telling everone how wealthy you are I will leave that to you.

[BlueBisonRock]

What he's saying is if you don't have 6 months salary sitting in your savings account (and thus available to buy $2k worth of season tickets with a donation), you shouldn't be spending your money here. That's an admirable strategy and one that would be great for everyone to strive to achieve. If everyone did that however, I bet the FFD would not sell out. Raise your hand if you are fortunate enough to be in that financial situation. Congrats to everyone that is. Most of the families I know aren't that fortunate. This is also different than the person who puts themselves deeper and deeper into debt each month. When you live mostly paycheck to paycheck, you are driven by payments and do it especially if there are no interest payments.

Hand raised. Only because I was extremely tight during the early years. There are times when I follow the advice given by the pundits. There are times when I don't (like the example I gave above). When I graduated from NDSU, I didn't have a pot to piss in and had the loan debt to boot. But I made it a point to get my finances in order with retirement as my end game. I am proud to say that both of my kids (late 20s) also have responsible and working plans.

When the football tickets get to a certain threshold (includes expenses for hotel, meal, and mileage), I will let them go. Until then, I am enjoying the ride and the people I meet at the tailgate and the games as well as through BV.

Summary (supporting your inferred point): Don't spend more than you have and if you do, don't expect others to bail your tail out.

[loudsilverado]

Two of you actually got what I was getting at all along....well, I have to do a little trolling here and there too you know, otherwise BV would be boring.

[56BISON73]

Two of you actually got what I was getting at all along....well, I have to do a little trolling here and there too you know, otherwise BV would be boring.

You mean its boring for you so you have to troll so you arent bored correct?

[loudsilverado]

You mean its boring for you so you have to troll so you arent bored correct?

Sometimes, maybe. It is also funny for someone to infer I was born with a silver spoon, don't work for a living, or have oil money. Maybe I do, maybe I don't.

[GOB1SON]

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[Hail bison]

Sometimes, maybe. It is also funny for someone to infer I was born with a silver spoon, don't work for a living, or have oil money. Maybe I do, maybe I don't.

You speak like a silver spoon. Not saying you are. As for not working for a living and having oil money, that was you.

[loudsilverado]

You speak like a silver spoon. Not saying you are. As for not working for a living and having oil money, that was you.

You have no idea what I do for money or how many hours I work, speaking like a silver spoon, whatever. I just added to what you were thinking.

[Hail bison]

You have no idea what I do for money or how many hours I work, speaking like a silver spoon, whatever. I just added to what you were thinking.

So you know what I'm thinking but I have no idea what you do and the hours you work?

[NDSU1980]

A dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.... Mathematically...with zero or an interest rate lower than the rate at which your money is gaining interest...it is a better decision to spread the payments out in order to lessen the real cost of your investment.

I don't know if that's the case for these folks... But as long as they are paying I can't see an issue with it.
I figure banks aren't paying squat for interest any more and the Athletic Dept can use the money, so I pay everything at once, but then I don't pay nearly as much as some people. I paid my 2014 TM dues back in December of 13, does that count for anything?

[tjbison]

You have no idea what I do for money or how many hours I work, speaking like a silver spoon, whatever. I just added to what you were thinking.


hmm...just like you telling people who want to do payments to get a better job??

you have no clue what they do for a job either

[Hail bison]

I figure banks aren't paying squat for interest any more and the Athletic Dept can use the money, so I pay everything at once, but then I don't pay nearly as much as some people. I paid my 2014 TM dues back in December of 13, does that count for anything?

It's nice to pay it and be done with it

[CAS4127]

You have no idea what I do for money or how many hours I work, speaking like a silver spoon, whatever. I just added to what you were thinking.

Dave: insert kids into the equation and things change in a hurry. Everytime I drop $2-3k on dues and tickets I'm thinking, wow, multiply that by 10+ and that's a pretty damn good college fund for my little girl. To each there own, my friend, and if people want to donate, it matters not to me how they do it. Actually, if they are sacrificing, the more respect I have for them.

That's all--Peace out for me on this "debate"!

Go fucking vote now!!


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[Gully]

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Dave says, "act your wage"

[1st&TennBison]

I get it, but it's $2,000. Seriously, $2,000. This isn't a mortgage, it's chump change. Prove to me that you are going to make any significant amount of money on $2,000 in 4 months, prove me wrong.

He does not have to prove you wrong, it is his $ 2,000 to spend as and how he sees fit. If it was up to you, it would be your money and you could spend it the way you want to, heck, since it is only 2K why don't you pay the TM dues for someone. After all, like you said, it's chump change, so it shouldn't be a problem for you to do so.

[BisoninNWMN]

Everyone has their own way of paying for these tickets.

Heck, I put mine on the credit card to get more flying miles. You can write off a certain % of the Teammakers dues.

[BYZEN]

Everyone has their own way of paying for these tickets.

Heck, I put mine on the credit card to get more flying miles. You can write off a certain % of the Teammakers dues.

Travel Hacking right here! :biggrin::hide:

[Ferd]

You have no idea what I do for money or how many hours I work, speaking like a silver spoon, whatever. I just added to what you were thinking.

And you sir, have no idea of what my investment/donation strategy is!

I agree: don't spend what you can't afford. But the way I may be able to afford something is not yours to determine.

[runtheoption]

Just got back from the bank, and was able to take out a 2nd mortgage on the house at 13% interest. We have to find a way to pay for those tickets. There was no way I was dipping into the $6.8 million we have in a trust fund from our mineral rights around Tioga and Bainville/Culbertson, MT. Saving that for a rainy day.

Now, time to head off on our 8 day trip to Florida...we decided two days ago this would be a good idea. Called the travel agent, went with her 1st sugggestion, and now everything is booked. I fail to see the value in shopping around or using Expedia or Kayak for that stuff. Paying straight cash, because I love having a zero balance on our credit cards at all times.

[CVOLK]

People seriously have to make payments on their season tickets? Please get a better job or stop buying things you can't afford, my god people.

I need your job or more likely you just need an attitude adjustment. I am 35 yrs old with a new house and small child and my wife and I do pretty well for ourselves but when I get that bill in March for $4010.50 for 4 seats it kind of stings. The natural progression of Teammaker dues since the D1 move has seen my dues go from $600 in 2004, $1600 in 2005, to $2000 in 2007, $2200 in 2011, $2600 in 2012 and now $2900 this year. That is nearly a 500% increase in 10 years. Now even tho we can afford them, and budget accordingly, spending 4G's on tickets that we will not use until Sept is not on my list of priorities. I'm betting you are one of those guys that claims zero plus pays in extra on his taxes just so he gets a return. Thus giving the Govt an interest free loan. I on the other hand like my money to work for me.

[X-Factor]

I need your job or more likely you just need an attitude adjustment. I am 35 yrs old with a new house and small child and my wife and I do pretty well for ourselves but when I get that bill in March for $4010.50 for 4 seats it kind of stings. The natural progression of Teammaker dues since the D1 move has seen my dues go from $600 in 2004, $1600 in 2005, to $2000 in 2007, $2200 in 2011, $2600 in 2012 and now $2900 this year. That is nearly a 500% increase in 10 years. Now even tho we can afford them, and budget accordingly, spending 4G's on tickets that we will not use until Sept is not on my list of priorities. I'm betting you are one of those guys that claims zero plus pays in extra on his taxes just so he gets a return. Thus giving the Govt an interest free loan. I on the other hand like my money to work for me.

Great post, and I get it, but we do live in a capitalist society with options. There is a market (price) for everything, including Bison football tickets. There will be sellers and buyers all the way up, it is the administration's job to match the demand to the Fargodome's 19k seats. Since the seat availability is not going up anytime soon, that means price needs to move substantially to satisfy the demand.

Expect many more increases in the coming years.

[bisonfanette]

The natural progression of Teammaker dues since the D1 move has seen my dues go from $600 in 2004, $1600 in 2005, to $2000 in 2007, $2200 in 2011, $2600 in 2012 and now $2900 this year.

And when I see numbers like those, it makes it easier to whip out the Visa, give TM a donation, & be thankful for our seats! (Yes, get travel pts, & be sure to pay off the Visa!)

[sandrahmart]

thnks 4 your info roadwarrior
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[BisonTeacher]

Just put in my season ticket request. I highly doubt we will get any.

If anybody wants to add some seats to their group and is looking for two fun people to join their crew let me know!!! :biggrin:

Im looking at you Gully, Bisonnation11, RTO and Bisonfanette!!!!!

[SDbison]

Great post, and I get it, but we do live in a capitalist society with options. There is a market (price) for everything, including Bison football tickets. There will be sellers and buyers all the way up, it is the administration's job to match the demand to the Fargodome's 19k seats. Since the seat availability is not going up anytime soon, that means price needs to move substantially to satisfy the demand.

Expect many more increases in the coming years. Total bullshit that the 19K bush league size of a stadium that will never change is held against the ticket holders.

[BisoninNWMN]

Total bullshit that the 19K bush league size of a stadium that will never change is held against the ticket holders.


Thanks to either Lindgren or the city commission or both for this. I thought the original FD was suppose to seat 27K and it was scaled back.

[tjbison]

Thanks to either Lindgren or the city commission or both for this. I thought the original FD was suppose to seat 27K and it was scaled back.


originally was going to be a copy of the Tacoma dome

[roadwarrior]

The size of the Fargodome was determined by what they thought they could afford with the sales tax revenue. Politics wasn't the factor. It turned out though, that the sales tax revenue generated for those 20 years could have built a larger structure. Selling bonds for the construction costs requires a somewhat conservative look at future revenues, so we have what we have.

[56BISON73]

The size of the Fargodome was determined by what they thought they could afford with the sales tax revenue. Politics wasn't the factor. It turned out though, that the sales tax revenue generated for those 20 years could have built a larger structure. Selling bonds for the construction costs requires a somewhat conservative look at future revenues, so we have what we have.

Who back when the FD was being planned would have thought where the Bison would be at this point in time? Seriously. It wasnt very long ago that sell out crowds were on the wish list. Here we now sit with sell out crowds and there is actually a DEMAND and a market for tickets.
But some still bitch. :facepalm:

[BisoninNWMN]

The size of the Fargodome was determined by what they thought they could afford with the sales tax revenue. Politics wasn't the factor. It turned out though, that the sales tax revenue generated for those 20 years could have built a larger structure. Selling bonds for the construction costs requires a somewhat conservative look at future revenues, so we have what we have.


I just remember when it was being planned out that the 27K figure was what the original plan was. Cannot change anything now.

[unbison]

I just remember when it was being planned out that the 27K figure was what the original plan was. Cannot change anything now.

And had it been that large it would have spent many years as a half filled football stadium

[BisoninNWMN]

And had it been that large it would have spent many years as a half filled football stadium


Fine. The larger stadium would have been great now and in the future.

[SDbison]

I just remember when it was being planned out that the 27K figure was what the original plan was. Cannot change anything now. No cannot change now but the plans NDSU and Fargo decide to build seem to never allow for expansion. Both the Fargodome and the renovated BSA have no design features to allow for expansion. Very shortsighted.

[BisoninNWMN]

No cannot change now but the plans NDSU and Fargo decide to build seem to never allow for expansion. Both the Fargodome and the renovated BSA have no design features to allow for expansion. Very shortsighted.


I agree.

Same goes for the remodeled BSA. Why not make it a little larger capacity? What is it going to be now? 5700? Why not 7K or a little bigger to plan for the future?

[tjbison]

I agree.

Same goes for the remodeled BSA. Why not make it a little larger capacity? What is it going to be now? 5700? Why not 7K or a little bigger to plan for the future?


little over 5900 total seats, I don't see it needing to be any bigger, there are many High major teams with under 10K BBall facilities. I'm sorry but I don't ever see the day 5900 will be too small for NDSU basketball.....but time will tell

[bisonaudit]

No cannot change now but the plans NDSU and Fargo decide to build seem to never allow for expansion. Both the Fargodome and the renovated BSA have no design features to allow for expansion. Very shortsighted.

Has anyone ever built a football venue with a roof on it that allowed for expansion?

[BYZEN]

little over 5900 total seats, I don't see it needing to be any bigger, there are many High major teams with under 10K BBall facilities. I'm sorry but I don't ever see the day 5900 will be too small for NDSU basketball.....but time will tell

Agreed. the largest crowd we get is the #1 rival SDSU game. This year and in 09 we sold out the BSA. IMO, with this team pre-season favorites to win the Summit and go to the Dance and still we couldn't fill the place up, doesn't scream "we need more seats" to me. :ranting:

[HandoEX]

Agreed. the largest crowd we get is the #1 rival SDSU game. This year and in 09 we sold out the BSA. IMO, with this team pre-season favorites to win the Summit and go to the Dance and still we couldn't fill the place up, doesn't scream "we need more seats" to me. :ranting:

You ever been to the BSA? It's about as terrible a venue as I could imagine NDSU having. With a good tram and a good arena, 5900 seats could be short of demand pretty quickly.

[tjbison]

You ever been to the BSA? It's about as terrible a venue as I could imagine NDSU having. With a good tram and a good arena, 5900 seats could be short of demand pretty quickly.


I hope it gets to that point, I know once it's done I will purchase 2 more sets of Season tickets

[bri-dog]

You ever been to the BSA? It's about as terrible a venue as I could imagine NDSU having. With a good tram and a good arena, 5900 seats could be short of demand pretty quickly.

Screw that, make them walk to the games like I had to. In chest-deep snow, uphill both ways. :biggrin::duel:

[BlueBisonRock]

Screw that, make them walk to the games like I had to. In chest-deep snow, uphill both ways. :biggrin::duel:

And half drunk... Singing "Wasted Away . . . . "

[bri-dog]

And half drunk... Singing "Wasted Away . . . . "

No way. I never do that halfway...:biggrin:

[tony]

Agreed. the largest crowd we get is the #1 rival SDSU game. This year and in 09 we sold out the BSA. IMO, with this team pre-season favorites to win the Summit and go to the Dance and still we couldn't fill the place up, doesn't scream "we need more seats" to me. :ranting:

A very similar argument was used to argue that 12,000 would be enough seats for the yet-to-be-built FargoDome back in 1989.

[BYZEN]

You ever been to the BSA? It's about as terrible a venue as I could imagine NDSU having. With a good tram and a good arena, 5900 seats could be short of demand pretty quickly.

I've been there once or twice....this week. There gutting and redoing it with the building they have. by the time they can sell out every game the structure itself will be ready to be replaced. Tram???? why not an elevated bullet train???

[SDbison]

I went to conference home basketball games in the early 1980's and the BSA was packed for most every game 5000 to 6000. Yep, NDSU and FM growth along with DI basketball could never top that 30 years later. The number one reason people don't go to Bison basketball games now is the facility simply sucks. The screwed up heating system, crappy sound, piss poor seats, few concession areas, along with in general being a butt ugly place makes it a horrible experience for the average fan. Sure the hardcore fans would go to games in an aircraft hanger, but average fans want the entire experience. Still wonder how some think 5900 capacity for Bison basketball is at the high end. Renovated BSA should have been designed for expandability to 7 or 8 thousand. Just shortsighted not to have done this.......

[SDbison]

I've been there once or twice....this week. There gutting and redoing it with the building they have. by the time they can sell out every game the structure itself will be ready to be replaced. Tram???? why not an elevated bullet train??? Really? Selling out every game might not happen with games against Mayville State included, but with the new facility most games will sell out sooner than you think.

[unbison]

I went to conference home basketball games in the early 1980's and the BSA was packed for most every game 5000 to 6000. Yep, NDSU and FM growth along with DI basketball could never top that 30 years later. The number one reason people don't go to Bison basketball games now is the facility simply sucks. The screwed up heating system, crappy sound, piss poor seats, few concession areas, along with in general being a butt ugly place makes it a horrible experience for the average fan. Sure the hardcore fans would go to games in an aircraft hanger, but average fans want the entire experience. Still wonder how some think 5900 capacity for Bison basketball is at the high end. Renovated BSA should have been designed for expandability to 7 or 8 thousand. Just shortsighted not to have done this.......

I won't argue with your thoughts SD
What I do think after watching the struggle to attain enough money to do what they are doing was the right one as we would still be on the hunt for enough money to build a brand new arena withe expandability not saying I don't see your point or trying to rain on your parade

[NDSUstudent]

I don't have an issue with the size of the new BSA.

The dome though has massive issues going forward. It is small and obsolete. Not a good combination.

[SDbison]

I won't argue with your thoughts SD
What I do think after watching the struggle to attain enough money to do what they are doing was the right one as we would still be on the hunt for enough money to build a brand new arena withe expandability not saying I don't see your point or trying to rain on your parade I can respect that. Its just too bad the state of ND can't take some pride in DI athletics..........let's say give both UNd and NDSU each 5 million every year for athletic building improvements, or can be saved and used to replace a building. Why should 100% of the athletic facilities be funded privately at a state school? Everybody knows that success in athletics gives attention to the state, helps land federal funding, brings new businesses, raises enrollment, etc.

[SDbison]

I don't have an issue with the size of the new BSA.

The dome though has massive issues going forward. It is small and obsolete. Not a good combination. That is good for you (regarding BSA). Others disagree. As for the Fargodome we agree.

[NDSUstudent]

NDSU should look to go outside. Build a stadium we can own and that can expand with our fanbase. If SDSU can do it, we can do it and do it bigger and better.

[westnodak93bison]

I went to conference home basketball games in the early 1980's and the BSA was packed for most every game 5000 to 6000. Yep, NDSU and FM growth along with DI basketball could never top that 30 years later. The number one reason people don't go to Bison basketball games now is the facility simply sucks. The screwed up heating system, crappy sound, piss poor seats, few concession areas, along with in general being a butt ugly place makes it a horrible experience for the average fan. Sure the hardcore fans would go to games in an aircraft hanger, but average fans want the entire experience. Still wonder how some think 5900 capacity for Bison basketball is at the high end. Renovated BSA should have been designed for expandability to 7 or 8 thousand. Just shortsighted not to have done this.......

Agree. Especially after we win a NCAA tournament game and have another great team in a few years. I could see 10k no problem

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[BYZEN]

Really? Selling out every game might not happen with games against Mayville State included, but with the new facility most games will sell out sooner than you think.




Well, it's a good thing that I already have my Season Tickets. And yes, I will watch them play next year in a hockey rink, football stadium or even if they played in an aircraft hanger. I'm looking forward to sold out Basketball games. Now if we could have drummed up $150 million we could have replaced the whole building and had room for 10,000 fans. But I for one would like to see a new IPF and larger football stadium. These cost big dollars also.

[NDSU1980]

Thanks to either Lindgren or the city commission or both for this. I thought the original FD was suppose to seat 27K and it was scaled back.Lindgren was the guy at the top that didn't really support it. He showed no leadership at all. I've also mentioned this before, but you had a kid who was attending NDSU named Steve Linke who fought the FD every inch of the way. He was the guy who kept insisting the head count at Dacotah Field was being inflated and he was sure the FD could never be filled at a football game. The guy threw up every road block he could to stop the FD, and once it became a success, he promptly became the "Missing Linke" by leaving Fargo.

[BisoninNWMN]

little over 5900 total seats, I don't see it needing to be any bigger, there are many High major teams with under 10K BBall facilities. I'm sorry but I don't ever see the day 5900 will be too small for NDSU basketball.....but time will tell


Totally disagree with this.

Plan for the future. 5900 might be fine and dandy now but why not plan for when the demand exceeds that...FM pop continues to climb, get a few tourney births and win a few games, campus continues to expand....reasons to plan ahead IMO.

[NDSUstudent]

The only way to build it bigger was to go completely new...at minimum by doing that you are looking at probably adding $15 million to the cost.

[tjbison]

Totally disagree with this.

Plan for the future. 5900 might be fine and dandy now but why not plan for when the demand exceeds that...FM pop continues to climb, get a few tourney births and win a few games, campus continues to expand....reasons to plan ahead IMO.


where was the money going to come from?

we barely got enough for the current project, tearing down and building a new facility would have taken 10 more years of fundraising or more. I guess people should have pushed for the Fargodome arena option I believe that was around 10k proposed seating wasn't it?

[Tatanka]

Is all the money raised for the current plan of the bsa? Again not disagreeing that 5700 seems small, but without the ability to bond options are limited.

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[NDSUstudent]

where was the money going to come from?

we barely got enough for the current project, tearing down and building a new facility would have taken 10 more years of fundraising or more. I guess people should have pushed for the Fargodome arena option I believe that was around 10k proposed seating wasn't it?

I think it was 6k so it was a similar size.

[BisoninNWMN]

where was the money going to come from?

we barely got enough for the current project, tearing down and building a new facility would have taken 10 more years of fundraising or more. I guess people should have pushed for the Fargodome arena option I believe that was around 10k proposed seating wasn't it?


10 more years?.....doubt it.

So what if it took a couple of more years. Isn't that why NDSU has these fundraising ADs?

5700 or 7000, I'll still go the games. I just think a few more seats would have been better.

[NDSUstudent]

10 more years?.....doubt it.

So what if it took a couple of more years. Isn't that why NDSU has these fundraising ADs?

5700 or 7000, I'll still go the games. I just think a few more seats would have been better.

The problem is we can't bond. You really need a Ralph esque sugar daddy for these big projects.

[Hammersmith]

10 more years?.....doubt it.

So what if it took a couple of more years. Isn't that why NDSU has these fundraising ADs?

5700 or 7000, I'll still go the games. I just think a few more seats would have been better.

Were an extra 1000-1500 seats worth $15 million? Cause that was the effective cost. Probably would be even more than that, but I'm being nice. And possibly another 6-12 months of construction.

[BYZEN]

Lindgren was the guy at the top that didn't really support it. He showed no leadership at all. I've also mentioned this before, but you had a kid who was attending NDSU named Steve Linke who fought the FD every inch of the way. He was the guy who kept insisting the head count at Dacotah Field was being inflated and he was sure the FD could never be filled at a football game. The guy threw up every road block he could to stop the FD, and once it became a success, he promptly became the "Missing Linke" by leaving Fargo.

I believe that his "Dome Reassessment Committee":mad: and lawsuit lead directly to all the reassessments and downsizing of the plans and our eventual finished product, the FFD.:facepalm:

Too bad we didn't build that 30/40K seat stadium with two levels suites and 3X as many suites. I worked on building the dome and not a day went by without commenting that what we were building wasn't going to be big enough.

[BisoninNWMN]

Were an extra 1000-1500 seats worth $15 million? Cause that was the effective cost. Probably would be even more than that, but I'm being nice. And possibly another 6-12 months of construction.


15 million? Was this figure posted somewhere on this?

Even if it was.....expect a lot......get a lot. Plan for the future. I'm a glass half full guy.

[56BISON73]

I believe that his "Dome Reassessment Committee":mad: and lawsuit lead directly to all the reassessments and downsizing of the plans and our eventual finished product, the FFD.:facepalm:

Too bad we didn't build that 30/40K seat stadium with two levels suites and 3X as many suites. I worked on building the dome and not a day went by without commenting that what we were building wasn't going to be big enough.

If we had built that stadium we still wouldnt be filling it. Just think how empty it would have been except for the last 3-4 years.

[unbison]

Sun set in the west again....bet some you hate that as well

[BisoninNWMN]

Sun set in the west again....bet some you hate that as well


Blah, blah, blah.....

[MAKBison]

And think how full it would be the past 4-5 years. I really do not get the good time bad time argument when it comes to building size. Lets keep people form attending the game now because in the lean years we want it to seem like more people are at the game. makes no sense. I do think a 25K FB stadium would be perfect and a 7-10K BB. Yes in the bad years it would be empty, but in the good years you will fill it. Just wish we could afford it!!!


If we had built that stadium we still wouldnt be filling it. Just think how empty it would have been except for the last 3-4 years.

[56BISON73]

And think how full it would be the past 4-5 years. I really do not get the good time bad time argument when it comes to building size. Lets keep people form attending the game now because in the lean years we want it to seem like more people are at the game. makes no sense. I do think a 25K FB stadium would be perfect and a 7-10K BB. Yes in the bad years it would be empty, but in the good years you will fill it. Just wish we could afford it!!!

That isnt the arguement at all. Fact is the FD was built along time ago. After it was built there was a shit pot full of empty seats for a very long time. So what you are saying doesnt really hold up in this scenario.

[No_Skill]

Sun set in the west again....bet some you hate that as well

I can see the benefits of a west rising sun.

I guess some people see a stadium that is half full and some see one that is half empty.

[NorthernBison]

That isnt the arguement at all. Fact is the FD was built along time ago. After it was built there was a shit pot full of empty seats for a very long time. So what you are saying doesnt really hold up in this scenario.

Yeah, all the talk about what size the dome should have been built to is water under the bridge. Two major lessons should have been learned by now. One is that we shouldn't underestimate the potential for growth. The other is more important. Don't commit fraud with numbers to try grease a project along. That Linke character proved that people were lying their asses off about attendance. That's what sunk any chances of building it bigger.

[bisonfanette]

Just put in my season ticket request. I highly doubt we will get any.

Im looking at you Gully, Bisonnation11, RTO and Bisonfanette!!!!!

Donate to TM & get your points rolling Teach!!! 40 pts is a gd start :)

[56BISON73]

Just put in my season ticket request. I highly doubt we will get any.

If anybody wants to add some seats to their group and is looking for two fun people to join their crew let me know!!! :biggrin:

Im looking at you Gully, Bisonnation11, RTO and Bisonfanette!!!!!

When did you join Teammakers?

[BisonTeacher]

When did you join Teammakers?

Last year. This is my 2nd year.

[Putz]

Sorry if this was covered already, but does anyone know how many points it took last year to get season tickets? I assume that number will be a little higher this year.

[CAS4127]

Sorry if this was covered already, but does anyone know how many points it took last year to get season tickets? I assume that number will be a little higher this year.

If someone is already a TM and has season tickets, you will not bump them off regardless of whether you have more points. Season tickets are sold out.


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[Trumpster]

If someone is already a TM and has season tickets, you will not bump them off regardless of whether you have more points. Season tickets are sold out.


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Doesn't seem to answer the question now does it?

[runtheoption]

Doesn't seem to answer the question now does it?Trumpster, you have to type slower and louder for CAS to understand.

[CAS4127]

Doesn't seem to answer the question now does it?

Ya it does. Only to get season tickets is if someone doesn't renew, and that ain't gonna happen. IOW, last year doesn't matter.


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[gumby013]

Everyone request max tickets. It'll be fun.

[MAKBison]

point is.... saying there will bee lean years is not a good argument for why not grow. Using your argument of lean times, the only reason not to grow is because you think the current trend is short-lived----Ok, that's a valid argument. I disagree happen to disagree with it, but its valid. I think the growth is byproduct of playing a better brand of of football (more talent compared to Iaa days) and the direct decision to really market SU sports. Back in the day, when the dome was empty...I was there,, SU sports just existed and was not really marketed like today.

anyway, They key for continued growth is to use your momentum to create even more growth. Eventually you will hit a ceiling, but I don't think we are there yet! Do you think Su is at its pinnacle and not really bale to get any better?



That isnt the arguement at all. Fact is the FD was built along time ago. After it was built there was a shit pot full of empty seats for a very long time. So what you are saying doesnt really hold up in this scenario.

[Trumpster]

Ya it does. Only to get season tickets is if someone doesn't renew, and that ain't gonna happen. IOW, last year doesn't matter.


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Well the actual question was just asking about the points that were required last year. This question was not answered. The phrase afterwards indeed implies that it should help knowing this year which I agree with you in saying that it doesn't matter.

[CAS4127]

Well the actual question was just asking about the points that were required last year. This question was not answered. The phrase afterwards indeed implies that it should help knowing this year which I agree with you in saying that it doesn't matter.

Them my response is "I don't know". :)


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[NorthernBison]

Well the actual question was just asking about the points that were required last year. This question was not answered. The phrase afterwards indeed implies that it should help knowing this year which I agree with you in saying that it doesn't matter.
I'm guessing there are a number of variables that enter in. It all starts with somebody not renewing their seats. That DOESN'T necessarily mean that somebody new who requested seats gets them. The first thing that happens is a decision is made regarding people who have asked to improve their seats and that comes from the existing season ticket holders (TM). Then, I believe, there is the question of existing TM Season Ticketholders who have asked for additional seats. Not 100% sure about that part. Finally, in the unlikely event there are tickets available, you pay the cost of the seats that are open. (It might be in the Full Scholarship section and be way more than you bargained for).

[StL Bison Fan]

I'm guessing there are a number of variables that enter in. It all starts with somebody not renewing their seats. That DOESN'T necessarily mean that somebody new who requested seats gets them. The first thing that happens is a decision is made regarding people who have asked to improve their seats and that comes from the existing season ticket holders (TM). Then, I believe, there is the question of existing TM Season Ticketholders who have asked for additional seats. Not 100% sure about that part. Finally, in the unlikely event there are tickets available, you pay the cost of the seats that are open. (It might be in the Full Scholarship section and be way more than you bargained for).
You are correct. But I wouldn't worry about getting 'stuck' with sideline seats.

[BYZEN]

I'm guessing there are a number of variables that enter in. It all starts with somebody not renewing their seats. That DOESN'T necessarily mean that somebody new who requested seats gets them. The first thing that happens is a decision is made regarding people who have asked to improve their seats and that comes from the existing season ticket holders (TM). Then, I believe, there is the question of existing TM Season Ticketholders who have asked for additional seats. Not 100% sure about that part. Finally, in the unlikely event there are tickets available, you pay the cost of the seats that are open. (It might be in the Full Scholarship section and be way more than you bargained for).




This is correct and last year I believe it was 12 seats that were not renewed and it was someone a whole lot higher in points than us who got them.

[Putz]

This is correct and last year I believe it was 12 seats that were not renewed and it was someone a whole lot higher in points than us who got them.

Thanks Byzen, that is more in line with the answer I was looking for. I'm not planning on getting any season tickets any time soon, just wondering what it took to get them last year. I knew they were hard to come by, but didn't realize there were that few available.

[bisonfanette]

This is what I remember from last yr ... (my best memory shot)
There were approx 65 season ticket (seats) available (that were not renewed by season ticket holders)
and approx 2265 requests for those seats.
The only reason that I kind of remember this, is because we were able to get one seat.
(I Totally agree with NorthernBison's post. I think it's a complicated process.)

[BisonAccountant44]

Do you have to arrange that every year? When I joined last February I set up the monthly payments with the form, and this January I upped my yearly total so I've curious if it would update automatically. I sent an email asking through the my account on gobison a couple weeks but didn't an answer, so I've just been waiting for the end I'd this week when the normal withdrawal would happen to see how much they take.

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FYI for anyone who is living above their means and donating monthly rather than in a lump sum, if you increase your yearly total the monthly payments will automatically continue at the old rate. You can either pay the difference in a lump sum when/if you renew your tickets or when you call to renew you can have the monthly total updated to account for the difference.

[gumby013]

Anyone hear anything on the renewal rate? Number of ticket requests?

Anyone?

[BisonNation11]

Anyone hear anything on the renewal rate? Number of ticket requests?

Anyone?

I would assume we hear something by May 1st since that is when requests for tickets for the Iowa State game begin.

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[roadwarrior]

The Iowa State tickets don't have much to do with home game tickets.

[BisonNation11]

The Iowa State tickets don't have much to do with home game tickets.

Priority ranking is where I was going with it

[reformedUNDfan]

if i understand the design correctly, there should be plenty of SRO if needed.

[westnodak93bison]

if i understand the design correctly, there should be plenty of SRO if needed.

Yeah and as arrogant FBS fans there will be plenty for sale

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[BisonTeacher]

Anyone know when i get my 2nd annual season ticket rejection letter?

[BYZEN]

Anyone know when i get my 2nd annual season ticket rejection letter?

Didn't you get it yet.......it was in the mail.:hide:

[StL Bison Fan]

Didn't you get it yet.......it was in the mail.:hide:
Sent the same time as your yard sign.
How much did you donate?:biggrin:

[Tatanka]

Sent the same time as your yard sign.
How much did you donate?:biggrin:




Should we send someone out to stroke your











Ego?





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[StL Bison Fan]

Should we send someone out to stroke your










Ego?




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If you bring provel. That would do.

[Tatanka]

If you bring provel. That would do.




Yes, agree.





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[BisonFan02]

Should we send someone out to stroke your











Ego?





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Don't forget to bring some sandwiches....perhaps a Turf burger or two.

[BisonTeacher]

Have the rejections gone out yet?

Insert obligatory postal service joke here.

[1998braves64]

You sure seem to look forward to these rejection letters every year! Might want to get that checked out.
(no I haven't)
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[BisonTeacher]

You sure seem to look forward to these rejection letters every year! Might want to get that checked out.
(no I haven't)
Sent on a bullet train from Hillsboro using Win8 phone.

I think you misunderstand my intentions. I want to know when i can officially start begging for homecoming tickets from fanette.

[BisonNation11]

I think you misunderstand my intentions. I want to know when i can officially start begging for homecoming tickets from fanette.

You should have started that at last year's homecoming game. :biggrin: But honestly, keep those rejection letters. 20 years down the road when you finally get in due to a new stadium, it will be nice to look back at.

[bisonfanette]

You should have started that at last year's homecoming game. :biggrin: .

Good one!!!

[Answer Guy]

I want to know when i can officially start begging for homecoming tickets from fanette.

I got tickets for NDSU's homecoming game. Not a big deal.

[THEsocalledfan]

I have not received my rejection letter. My current strategy is to increase my donation every year by $50 until NDSU caves in and gives me tickets. Then, I will sell them and fly to Europe in first class!

[Tatanka]

I have not received my rejection letter. My current strategy is to increase my donation every year by $50 until NDSU caves in and gives me tickets. Then, I will sell them and fly to Europe in first class!

http://i.imgur.com/Dg5J7.gif

[THEsocalledfan]

http://i.imgur.com/Dg5J7.gif

My, bad, Tony. Forgot that I will also rack up Barclay's Arrival points for both my donation, and the actual price of the tickets. If they only took Amex.....

[Tatanka]

My, bad, Tony. Forgot that I will also rack up Barclay's Arrival points for both my donation, and the actual price of the tickets. If they only took Amex.....

That's more like it.

[THEsocalledfan]

:eek:
That's more like it.
sorry for letting you down oh king of travel hacking ...

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[56BISON73]

I have not received my rejection letter. My current strategy is to increase my donation every year by $50 until NDSU caves in and gives me tickets. Then, I will sell them and fly to Europe in first class!

At 50 bucks a year I have to ask---how long do you expect to live? :biggrin:

[BisonTeacher]

At 50 bucks a year I have to ask---how long do you expect to live? :biggrin:

Im sure he's found a way to hack life expectancy.

[bisonfanette]

At 50 bucks a year I have to ask---how long do you expect to live? :biggrin:

Exactly!
Especially if the existing donors are increasing their donations by $55. or more every year. There's no catching up.
(Or perhaps they just have to keep donating at their current rate.) But I didn't say that!!!
Keep donating & thinking positively!

[THEsocalledfan]

At 50 bucks a year I have to ask---how long do you expect to live? :biggrin:

Until they give me tickets, of course. Then I will die.

[bisonfanette]

Have the rejections gone out yet?

Fans who requested season tickets should hear sometime this week.

(Watch your mail in a month or two Teach!)

[THEsocalledfan]

Fans who requested season tickets should hear sometime this week.

(Watch your mail in a month or two Teach!)

Awesome! It always brings back such good college memories except this rejection has to do with tickets, not women.....

[56BISON73]

Awesome! It always brings back such good college memories except this rejection has to do with tickets, not women.....

At least you are prepared and have had LOTS of training.

[THEsocalledfan]

At least you are prepared and have had LOTS of training.

Must spread rep......

[bisonfanette]

At least you are prepared and have had LOTS of training.

I just laughed out loud at this... good one Pat!

[StL Bison Fan]

Got my card of disappointment today. Just wanted two extra so not to upset. More concerned about new tailgate spots

[Gully]

does anybody know if they'll be doing the radission hotel deal associated with the tickets again this year?

[THEsocalledfan]

Got my card of disappointment today. Just wanted two extra so not to upset. More concerned about new tailgate spots
If they are reserving the rest of that lot.... I am going top flip out....

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[Gully]

So called, I was able to get four new reserved spots in that lot using office max gift cards that I purchased with delta miles I received from my SPG credit card with a double point kicker. Basically I now have the THBTC spots and made like $4,358. True story.

[56BISON73]

If they are reserving the rest of that lot.... I am going top flip out....

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You didnt put in for a spot I take it?

[bisonfanette]

Got my card of disappointment today. Just wanted two extra so not to upset.

I put in for ONE more season ticket, because last year that worked :) but not this year. Rejection card received. How about you Teach and socalledfan?
Remember last year they had approx. 65 seats to re-issue. I wonder how many they had available this year?

[CAS4127]

So called, I was able to get four new reserved spots in that lot using office max gift cards that I purchased with delta miles I received from my SPG credit card with a double point kicker. Basically I now have the THBTC spots and made like $4,358. True story.

I call BS on the double kicker!!

Jussayin'!!


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[THEsocalledfan]

In Dilwirth so my rejection letter is waiting for me in sioux falls tomorrow

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[Tatanka]

In Dilwirth so my rejection letter is waiting for me in sioux falls tomorrow

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Travel hacked a vacation to Dilworth? Man have those skypesos been devalued. :smh:

[StL Bison Fan]

So called, I was able to get four new reserved spots in that lot using office max gift cards that I purchased with delta miles I received from my SPG credit card with a double point kicker. Basically I now have the THBTC spots and made like $4,358. True story.

I wish I would have read the travel hacking thread better... :(

[BisonTeacher]

Rejection letter.

[THEsocalledfan]

Rejection letter.
ditto. like pl said at least I've had practice at rejection....

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[SDbison]

does anybody know if they'll be doing the radission hotel deal associated with the tickets again this year? I called the Radisson when I was making hotel arrangements for all the home games a month ago. They did not have the $99 or comparable rate yet. We currently have all the games covered at the Marriott Courtyard in Moorhead with the $99 Sanford employee rate. Hope the Radisson has the low rate again as I would like to stay there for a couple games with downtown Fargo bars close by.

[SDbison]

ditto. like pl said at least I've had practice at rejection....

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk Socalled, what would you do with season tickets? You hardly get to Fargo but for one or two games a year!

[BisonTeacher]

I called the Radisson when I was making hotel arrangements for all the home games a month ago. They did not have the $99 or comparable rate yet. We currently have all the games covered at the Marriott Courtyard in Moorhead with the $99 Sanford employee rate. Hope the Radisson has the low rate again as I would like to stay there for a couple games with downtown Fargo bars close by.

The hojo aint bad. Just sayin.

[1998braves64]

Got my rejection letter hoping some day I might get priority points for that? :)
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[THEsocalledfan]

Socalled, what would you do with season tickets? You hardly get to Fargo but for one or two games a year!

Sell, them of course. It is a complicated travel hacking scheme....

[Bison03]

I was looking at the season ticket flyer and it said that season tickets would be mailed out July 1st. Anyone get there tickets yet? Anyone know when they are getting mailed out?

[Hail bison]

I was looking at the season ticket flyer and it said that season tickets would be mailed out July 1st. Anyone get there tickets yet? Anyone know when they are getting mailed out?

Mine haven't shown up

[THEsocalledfan]

Neither have mine. Oh, wait a minute..........

[BisonTeacher]

I was looking at the season ticket flyer and it said that season tickets would be mailed out July 1st. Anyone get there tickets yet? Anyone know when they are getting mailed out?

They also said the target field tickets would be mailed around July 1st. Nothing yet for me! Monkeys!

[Bison03]

I figured it was just a commen delay. It's a great day when they come in the mail.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUpJIV7yZv8

[1998braves64]

Usually is this time of July though as I've had them show up on my birthday (13th).
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[StL Bison Fan]

Usually is this time of July though as I've had them show up on my birthday (13th).
Sent from Win8 phone on a bullet train from Hillsboro.

Perhaps the flying monkeys got sidetracked?