Bison Rise to #8 in Latest Mid-Major Poll

[NDSUstudent]

1. Wichita State (31) 21-0 775 1 Missouri Valley
2. Gonzaga 18-3 740 3 West Coast
3. Toledo 17-2 694 4 Mid-American
4. Green Bay 17-3 641 5 Horizon
5. Harvard 15-3 631 2 Ivy League
6. Indiana State 16-4 630 6 Missouri Valley
7. Stephen F. Austin 18-2 566 7 Southland
8. North Dakota State 15-5 523 10 Summit
9. Princeton 12-3 493 9 Ivy League
10. Manhattan 14-5 489 8 Metro Atlantic
11. Saint Mary's 16-5 466 11 West Coast
12. Mercer 17-5 439 12 Atlantic Sun
13. Northern Colorado 13-4 353 15 Big Sky
14. Ohio 14-5 344 13 Mid-American
15. New Mexico State 15-7 314 16 WAC
16. Akron 13-6 306 17 Mid-American
17. Belmont 16-7 232 23 Ohio Valley
18. UC Irvine 13-8 224 14 Big West
19. UC Santa Barbara 12-6 165 18 Big West
20. Georgia State 14-6 156 25 Sun Belt
21. IPFW 16-6 153 24 Summit
22. Canisius 14-7 71 NR Metro Atlantic
23. Delaware 14-7 67 NR Colonial
24. North Carolina Central 13-5 66 NR MEAC
25. Chattanooga 14-8 61 NR Southern


OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: American 60, Western Kentucky 46, Missouri State 40, BYU 37, Eastern Kentucky 33, Boston University 32, Stony Brook 30, Hawaii 23, Kent State 22, Bryant 20, Northern Iowa 15, Sam Houston State 15, Western Michigan 14, Columbia 13, Iona 13, Cleveland State 11, Murray State 11, Buffalo 7, William & Mary 7, Wright State 7, Drexel 6, Portland 4, Quinnipiac 3, Alabama State 2, Eastern Michigan 1, Radford 1, Towson 1, Utah Valley 1, Vermont 1.

[SamsRams]

I still dont get why some mid major conferences arent listed in this, specifically the Mountain West

[56BISON73]

I still dont get why some mid major conferences arent listed in this, specifically the Mountain West

What :eek::eeek::group:

[SamsRams]

What :eek::eeek::group:

Would love to have the debate with anyone who says the Mountain West is clearly a more major bbal conference than the Missouri Valley. It simply isnt tuew and hasnt been for a bunch of years

[NDSUstudent]

I wonder if some conferences/schools chose not to participate in the poll, the voting is done by coaches.

With that said the A10, AAC and MWC are kind of in the grey area between high major and mid-major. The MVC was close but replacing Creighton with a bad program hurt them a lot.

[HandoEX]

Love seeing Delaware getting ranked.

[DjKyRo]

Love seeing Delaware getting ranked.

True that. It's odd how teams we play in football absolutely fall apart after they play us - seems to be the opposite in basketball, at least as far as Delaware's concerned. Plus ND had that win over Duke.

[SamsRams]

I wonder if some conferences/schools chose not to participate in the poll, the voting is done by coaches.


that makes sense then

[reformedUNDfan]

The MWC is having a down year, and isn't as strong without BYU. It was only a year ago that the MWC was an unquestioned high-major.

[ndsubison1]

its because the MWC, A10 and AAC arent considered "mid major"

[SamsRams]

its because the MWC, A10 and AAC arent considered "mid major"

MWC is not a major basketball conference. Never has been except in their own mind.

[ndsubison1]

MWC is not a major basketball conference. Never has been except in their own mind.

yeah a lot of experts see them as a tweener conference. past success of new mexico, unlv, sdsu, some of the top teams in the AAC and A10 theres no reason to consider them "mid major"

[SamsRams]

yeah a lot of experts see them as a tweener conference. past success of new mexico, unlv, sdsu, some of the top teams in the AAC and A10 theres no reason to consider them "mid major"

And how many national championships did they win? Final fours?

[ndsubison1]

And how many national championships did they win? Final fours?

well AAC has louisville, uconn, cincy, memphis, temple. unlv won a title. st. louis, umass dont seem like mid majors to me. just a big grey area

http://espn.go.com/ncb/notebook/_/page/midmajors140127/so-think-mid-major

[SamsRams]

well AAC has louisville, uconn, cincy, memphis, temple. unlv won a title. st. louis, umass dont seem like mid majors to me. just a big grey area

http://espn.go.com/ncb/notebook/_/page/midmajors140127/so-think-mid-major
That is great and all but i have done nothing but talk about the mwc. None if them play in the mwc except unlv whos title was not in the mwc

[tjbison]

That is great and all but i have done nothing but talk about the mwc. None if them play in the mwc except unlv whos title was not in the mwc

exactly MWC claiming the UNLV success is just like the MVFC claiming 91, 93 & 94 Youngstown Tressel era titles hell can they even claim the 97 title?

different conferences completely for UNLV and YSU was Indy in I-AA

[tony]

Would love to have the debate with anyone who says the Mountain West is clearly a more major bbal conference than the Missouri Valley. It simply isnt tuew and hasnt been for a bunch of years

Well, the Mountain West got five into the tourney last year. In 2011, the MVC got one team in.

2013 5 MWC v 2 MVC
2012 4 v 2
2011 3 v 1
2010 4 v 1

Not saying that the MWC shouldn't be considered a mid-major, but they've been averaging four teams in the tourney compared to the MVC's 1.5.

[bisonfan08]

In the MWC's defense the do have the number 5 ranked team in the nation right now. SDSU, New Mexico, UNLV and Nevada have all had seasons where they could be considered high major teams however from top to bottom I just don't see them as a high major conference. Every high major conference has a bottom feeder or two but the difference is all the teams in the middle of your top 2 or 3 and bottom 2 or 3 and the MWC just isn't strong enough there to be considered high major IMO.

[ndsubison1]

That is great and all but i have done nothing but talk about the mwc. None if them play in the mwc except unlv whos title was not in the mwc

but i was talking about those 3 conferences in the first place. it doesnt matter much what conference they won it in. theyre still the same program either way

[unbison]

but i was talking about those 3 conferences in the first place. it doesnt matter much what conference they won it in. theyre still the same program either way

you know what who gives a shit………..we are number frisking 8 on the cutest fat girl list …….hellz to the mutha ………. yeah……..pump it up@!!!!!!!!!!!

[SamsRams]

but i was talking about those 3 conferences in the first place. it doesnt matter much what conference they won it in. theyre still the same program either way

Awesome so the University of San Fransisco and Holy Cross's conferences are major conferences because they won the National Championship years ago and are still the same program now as they were then. Thanks for clearing that up.

[unbison]

Awesome so the University of San Fransisco and Holy Cross's conferences are major conferences because they won the National Championship years ago and are still the same program now as they were then. Thanks for clearing that up.
quit being all pissy he doesn't decide who is a mid major just as you don't

[SamsRams]

quit being all pissy he doesn't decide who is a mid major just as you don't

another great point, none of us decide anything to do with Bison athletics so we should never discuss anything we dont have total control over. Shut the Site Down!!

[ndsubison1]

quit being all pissy he doesn't decide who is a mid major just as you don't

in my head i do!!!