Bracketology

[b15on]

NDSU a 13 seed facing 4 Kentucky in the first round of Joe Lunardi's Bracketology

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[HoopsBison]

So early and lots of season left but nice seeing us on the bracket.

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[HandoEX]

A Kentucky matchup would be fun! Would be as much fun as the Kansas game!

[Tatanka]

Yuuuuuuup!

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[North Side]

I think if we only lose 1 or 2 games for the rest of the season we could be a 12 seed. Otherwise 13 or 14 seems to be what the Summit gets suck with.

[Hansel]

According to espn rpi- NDSU currently has the #1 ranked SOS

[stevdock]

According to espn rpi- NDSU currently has the #1 ranked SOS

Where did you see that at?? I'm seeing 19 and 10 spots behind UND. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/sos/order/false

Well I see this is an old one, but where is the new one at??

[Hansel]

Where did you see that at?? I'm seeing 19 and 10 spots behind UND. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/sos/order/false

Well I see this is an old one, but where is the new one at??

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/order/false/teamId/2449

-edit but it appears every other team has a #1 SOS as well so it is incorrect

[herdmember]

Saul said it's top 10 tonight. Not bad! He also said they have a loss to St Mary's who is undefeated, a loss to Southern Miss whose only loss is Louisville, a loss to #2 Ohio State, and another loss he didn't remember. Ha!

[NDSUstudent]

Bison are now up to a 12 seed in Lunardi's bracketology. He has us playing Louisville in St Louis. That would be a lot of fun...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[Tatanka]

Bison are now up to a 12 seed in Lunardi's bracketology. He has us playing Louisville in St Louis. That would be a lot of fun...



http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology




yes. Yes it would.





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[BisonJD]

Bison are now up to a 12 seed in Lunardi's bracketology. He has us playing Louisville in St Louis. That would be a lot of fun...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Pretty easy draw...Louisville, KU, then Ohio St. :ranting:

[dragonsfan]

Summit is a must win this year no doubt

[ndsansa]

12/5 is the sweet spot for upsets in the NCAA tourney.

[ndsubison1]

12 seed would be awesome and it is very attainable with our OOC schedule and the win over Notre Dame. A matchup with like a Colorado 1st round and then a weaker 4 seed would be ideal

[NDSUstudent]

Lunardi's latest bracket...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdjkbK0CUAEF5wl.jpg:large

[bisonfan08]

This would be a dream matchup, getting another mid-major school and them having to go all the way across country to play. Definitely favorable, that being said we have a lot of business to handle before then.

[ndsubison1]

very ideal matchup

[ndsubison1]

Team Rankings: 9 seed

http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tournament/bracketology/

Bracketology Expert: 12 seed

http://www.bracketologyexpert.com/2014/01/05/daniel-evans-brackeology-jan-5/

College Basketball Talk: 13 seed

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/06/college-basketball-talk-bracketology-arizona-syracuse-headline-first-bracket-of-the-year/

Jerry Palm CBS: 13 seed

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

[marenlee]

It would be amazing if we could get a 12 or better. I'm not counting on it but it would be awesome as long as we make it. According to wikipedia the highest seed ever from the Summit was a 9 by SW Missouri St (Missouri State now). Of course most others have been 13 or lower. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit_League

[Wacker_in_the_Hall]

Tough bracket to be sure, I don't like our odds even if we were the 9 seed !

[b15on]

New bracketology from Lunardi has IPFW as the Summit League champ and a 16 seed facing Michigan St

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[ndsubison1]

one game and now he puts ipfw in it? lol. not that it matters anyways...

[NDSUstudent]

If a team is leading their conference he puts them in his bracket. He said on Twitter that he still considers NDSU to be the favorite to win the league.

[ndsubison1]

If a team is leading their conference he puts them in his bracket. He said on Twitter that he still considers NDSU to be the favorite to win the league.

yeah i notice that with the smaller conferences. kinda dumb

[heckler]

Lunardi has South Dakota vs Chatty for a play in game to take on #1 Michigan St.

[Mr Meaty]

Lunardi has South Dakota vs Chatty for a play in game to take on #1 Michigan St.

IMO any team who gets an automatic bid because of winning conference tourney should not be in the "play in games". The play in games should only have at large bids in them. Just my opinion.

[bisonaudit]

IMO any team who gets an automatic bid because of winning conference tourney should not be in the "play in games". The play in games should only have at large bids in them. Just my opinion.

It's half and half now, right?

[Mr Meaty]

It's half and half now, right?

I am not sure.

[ndsubison1]

It's half and half now, right?

yes 10 char

[bisonfan08]

Well with USD dropping a game last night, as long as we can keep things rolling and pick up a W on Saturday we should see NDSU back in the bracket on Monday. Will be interesting to see what line we end up on if we can get the win. IPFW only earned a 16 seed and USD a 16 seed play-in. That tells me not to expect any higher than a 14 unless we can go on a bit of a run here and win these next 3 games in a row on the road. That should get us back on to the 13 line.

[HoopsBison]

Well with USD dropping a game last night, as long as we can keep things rolling and pick up a W on Saturday we should see NDSU back in the bracket on Monday. Will be interesting to see what line we end up on if we can get the win. IPFW only earned a 16 seed and USD a 16 seed play-in. That tells me not to expect any higher than a 14 unless we can go on a bit of a run here and win these next 3 games in a row on the road. That should get us back on to the 13 line.

Delaware is 13 and we hammered them, I'd say that is right where we belong.

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[bisonsupporter]

We will be back on that 12-13 line. I really dont see us being a 14 unless the conference as a whole becomes really bad.

[bisonsupporter]

Back to a 13 seed vs Iowa. Could be a good draw as Iowa is streaky.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[North Side]

Back to a 13 seed vs Iowa. Could be a good draw as Iowa is streaky.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

I would love this match up!

[HoopsBison]

Iowa is a very good team but any 4 seed is going to be, like that bracket.

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[bisonfan08]

Most interesting part about this bracket is it could lead to matchups against St. Mary's and Ohio St for the 2nd time this season. That would be kind of crazy

[NDSUstudent]

IPFW is back in ESPN's bracket as a 15 seed.

[bisonsupporter]

IPFW is back in ESPN's bracket as a 15 seed.

Until Saturday

[heckler]

IPFW is back in ESPN's bracket as a 15 seed.

Who would have thought over half way through the season IPFW would be the team to beat.

[ndsubison1]

Until tonight

FIFY

ten char

[ndsubison1]

Who would have thought over half way through the season IPFW would be the team to beat.

we have 5 of 7 home games left. ipfw is 5 of 7 road games. just sayin

[bisonsupporter]

FIFY

ten char

No, they still own tiebreaker. Thats why I said until saturday

[ndsubison1]

No, they still own tiebreaker. Thats why I said until saturday

were back to being the fav in espns eyes with ipfws loss last night

[NDSUstudent]

We are back in Lunardi's bracket....


41-AzSt, 42-Minn, 43-HARv, 44-usm, 45-Tenn, 46-Prov, 47-Byu, 48-Mizzou, 49-Clem, 50-GB, 51-TOL, 52-NDST, 53-DELA, 54-MERC, 55-GAST, 56-BELM.

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/432192379525672961

[roadwarrior]

Brackets mean nothing if we don't win in Sioux Falls on march 11th

[ndsubison1]

Brackets mean nothing if we don't win in Sioux Falls on march 11th

we know...

[HoopsBison]

Updated brackets from ESPN and CBS, not going to lie the Wisconsin match up would be very exciting.


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[westnodak93bison]

A train trip to Spokane would be awesome

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[BYZEN]

A train trip to Spokane would be awesome

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for you maybe, From Fargo we'd get bussed from DL to Minot or something like that....doesn't sound as fun. 😞

[ndsubison1]

Updated brackets from ESPN and CBS, not going to lie the Wisconsin match up would be very exciting.


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we have no chance since they beat und and und beat us

[ndsubison1]

NDSU as 13 seed playing Iowa State

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[BisonAccountant44]

2 things I need someone to remind me of.

1. How is the site that you play at in the first round (round of 64, not the first 4) determined? Isn't there a regionalization component to the site that you'll play at that isn't neccesarilly connected to your actual East, West, Midwest, South region? Meaning, if this were the real bracket, wouldn't two of the four Milwaukee games likely be Wisconsin vs. Deleware and us and Iowa State.

2. Is Lunardi saying that if the tournament started today we would be playing Iowa State as a 13, or is he saying that he thinks we'd be a 13 and that we would play either Iowa State, Wisconsin, Virginia or Cincinnati since those are the 4 seeds this week?

[NDSUstudent]

2 things I need someone to remind me of.

1. How is the site that you play at in the first round (round of 64, not the first 4) determined? Isn't there a regionalization component to the site that you'll play at that isn't neccesarilly connected to your actual East, West, Midwest, South region? Meaning, if this were the real bracket, wouldn't two of the four Milwaukee games likely be Wisconsin vs. Deleware and us and Iowa State.

2. Is Lunardi saying that if the tournament started today we would be playing Iowa State as a 13, or is he saying that he thinks we'd be a 13 and that we would play either Iowa State, Wisconsin, Virginia or Cincinnati since those are the 4 seeds this week?

Michigan and Michigan State are higher seeds...they get first dibs on playing close to home. Milwaukee is the nearest site so that is where they go.

As for #2 it is based on his S-curve(every team in the field is ranked) and geography. Teams can get moved up or down a seed based on geography.

[bisonsupporter]

Joe Lunardi is tweeting about the Tourney Committee doing a mock bracket selection today in Indy.

[bisonfan08]

Joe Lunardi is tweeting about the Tourney Committee doing a mock bracket selection today in Indy.

Yeah and they have IPFW as the Summit League AQ :facepalm:

[NDSUstudent]

Todays brackets...

CBS: NDSU a 13 seed vs Texas...http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
ESPN: NDSU a 13 seed vs Iowa State...http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/prestitial?redirectUrl=/mens-college-basketball/bracketology&redirectTitle=NCB%20Bracketology&zone=bracketology
NBC: NDSU a 12 seed vs Ohio State...http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/17/nbcsports-com-bracketology-a-couple-of-saints-march-into-first-four/related/

[Bison03]

Todays bracket...

CBS: NDSU a 13 seed vs Texas...http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
ESPN: NDSU a 13 seed vs Iowa State...http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/prestitial?redirectUrl=/mens-college-basketball/bracketology&redirectTitle=NCB%20Bracketology&zone=bracketology
NBC: NDSU a 12 seed vs Ohio State...http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/17/nbcsports-com-bracketology-a-couple-of-saints-march-into-first-four/related/

Interesting CBS bracket. Anyone know how to get to Texas?

[BYZEN]

Interesting CBS bracket. Anyone know how to get to Texas?

About 1,100 miles Due South of SIOUX FALLS.....:biggrin:

[ndsubison1]

Rush the Court also has us as a 12 seed

[NDSUstudent]

I think a 12 is possible but we need to run the table to make it happen.

[westnodak93bison]

I think a 12 is possible but we need to run the table to make it happen.

And in convincing fashion

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[ndsubison1]

we have a good enough RPI to be in the 12 debate if we win out and make it. the seeds all across the board are weaker then years past. plus add in some upsets in smaller conferences

[NDSUFan_Sav]

NDSU as 13 seed playing Iowa State

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Would hate this match up.

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[Tatanka]

Would hate this match up.

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this. Do not want.





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[bisonsupporter]

Would hate this match up.

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Why? Right now out of the possible matchups (looking at current 3,4,5 seeds) I would like an Iowa St or Iowa matchup. I think these would be 2 teams we could knock off. Look what West Virginia did to Iowa St. Iowa is a streaky team. If Iowa is cold from the outside, Bison win!

Current 3,4, or 5 seeds are
Villanova Cincinnati
Creighton UCLA
Virginia Kentucky
Wisconsin Texas
Iowa St Iowa
Michigan St. Louis

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Why? Right now out of the possible matchups (looking at current 3,4,5 seeds) I would like an Iowa St or Iowa matchup. I think these would be 2 teams we could knock off. Look what West Virginia did to Iowa St. Iowa is a streaky team. If Iowa is cold from the outside, Bison win!

Current 3,4, or 5 seeds are
Villanova Cincinnati
Creighton UCLA
Virginia Kentucky
Wisconsin Texas
Iowa St Iowa
Michigan St. Louis

We do not matchup well with Iowa State at all. Look at their line up and the size/speed they have would kill us. Kane, Gibson, Ejim, Walker, Edozie, Ellerman, Hogue. Yeah no thanks, if they are missing from outside they can kill us from down low.

Give me Cincy, Nova, Wisconsin, Virginia, Creighton, or Iowa before Iowa State. We do not stand a chance vs Iowa State.

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[bisonsupporter]

We do not matchup well with Iowa State at all. Look at their line up and the size/speed they have would kill us. Kane, Gibson, Ejim, Walker, Edozie, Ellerman, Hogue. Yeah no thanks, if they are missing from outside they can kill us from down low.

Give me Cincy, Nova, Wisconsin, Virginia, Creighton, or Iowa before Iowa State. We do not stand a chance vs Iowa State.

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Texas vs Iowa St tonight at 6 on ESPN2. Possible Bison 2nd round matchup.

[MNLonghorn10]

Ndsu would get destroyed by Texas's size. I'd like to see the bison face Iowa state over Texas.

That's not a biased opinion either.

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[bisonsupporter]

Ndsu would get destroyed by Texas's size. I'd like to see the bison face Iowa state over Texas.

That's not a biased opinion either.

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I think Texas is better than Iowa State. But every 3,4 or 5 seed is going to be bigger and faster than us right?

[MNLonghorn10]

I think Texas is better than Iowa State. But every 3,4 or 5 seed is going to be bigger and faster than us right?

You tell me after bjorkland, who isn't overwhelmingly big by any means..there isn't much. Marshall is more skilled than any Longhorn big, but Texas still has the size to make him have as less of an impact than Iowa state can...if that makes sense.



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[HoopsBison]

Texas would not be good.

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[bisonsupporter]

You tell me after bjorkland, who isn't overwhelmingly big by any means..there isn't much. Marshall is more skilled than any Longhorn big, but Texas still has the size to make him have as less of an impact than Iowa state can...if that makes sense.
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I see what you are getting at. Ridley is a beast inside. I will be watching tonights game to see how Iowa St does inside against him.

[BisonJD]

Why? Right now out of the possible matchups (looking at current 3,4,5 seeds) I would like an Iowa St or Iowa matchup. I think these would be 2 teams we could knock off. Look what West Virginia did to Iowa St. Iowa is a streaky team. If Iowa is cold from the outside, Bison win!

Current 3,4, or 5 seeds are
Villanova Cincinnati
Creighton UCLA
Virginia Kentucky
Wisconsin Texas
Iowa St Iowa
Michigan St. Louis

Give me St. Louis. Slow, grind-it-out style where they won't run away and hide on us. I think Iowa St. is a poor matchup for us.

[MNLonghorn10]

I see what you are getting at. Ridley is a beast inside. I will be watching tonights game to see how Iowa St does inside against him.

i wouldnt put much stock into tonight..The games in Ames and if Iowa St shoots lights out from outside that'll be a poor indication on how texas matches up with NDSU in the tournament.

I want these two teams on opposite brackets, for selfish reasons :)

[bisonsupporter]

Give me St. Louis. Slow, grind-it-out style where they won't run away and hide on us. I think Iowa St. is a poor matchup for us.

I can see us matching up with St. Louis. That may be a good Bison matchup.


i wouldnt put much stock into tonight..The games in Ames and if Iowa St shoots lights out from outside that'll be a poor indication on how texas matches up with NDSU in the tournament.

I want these two teams on opposite brackets, for selfish reasons :)

Iowa St plays better at home than on the road.

[EndZoneQB]

i wouldnt put much stock into tonight..The games in Ames and if Iowa St shoots lights out from outside that'll be a poor indication on how texas matches up with NDSU in the tournament.

I want these two teams on opposite brackets, for selfish reasons :)

Yeah it was like the year when Oakland had Benson(IIRC?) and about the only team that could match up really well early was effin Texas with Tristan Thompson...and who did they draw? Texas. I wanted Oakland to make a run for sure, but nope. Then Thompson lays an egg against D-Will and the Tpups end up drafting crappy again.

[MNLonghorn10]

thanks for the unwelcomed trip down memory lane!

I personally want texas to stay out of the dreaded 5 gonna need to split this week and then some

[ndsubison1]

Why? Right now out of the possible matchups (looking at current 3,4,5 seeds) I would like an Iowa St or Iowa matchup. I think these would be 2 teams we could knock off. Look what West Virginia did to Iowa St. Iowa is a streaky team. If Iowa is cold from the outside, Bison win!

Current 3,4, or 5 seeds are
Villanova Cincinnati
Creighton UCLA
Virginia Kentucky
Wisconsin Texas
Iowa St Iowa
Michigan St. Louis

of those id prolly take virginia, iowa, or ucla. maybe cincy since they tend to struggle offensively. iowa state would be a tough matchup but they dont really have a prominent big man or shoot the 3 well. but their length and athletes could give us fits. St. Louis would be interesting. their style would keep us in the game but theyre like WIU on steroids. kentucky would be the last of those i would want to face. also wouldnt want to face creighton

[ndsubison1]

heres the bracket i created:

http://betterbracketmaker.com/#!/20d1e621b5035

[NDSUstudent]

The Bison are up to a 12 seed in ESPN's Bracketology...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[bisonsupporter]

The Bison are up to a 12 seed in ESPN's Bracketology...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Against the defending National Champs...... ugh!

[ndsubison1]

guess what day it is? exactly one month until the madness begins... :cheers:

[ndsubison1]

USA Today: 13 seed vs San Diego State

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/02/23/usa-today-sports-ncaa-tournament-bracketology/5755289/

CBS' Jerry Palm: 13 seed vs Michigan State

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

[NDSUstudent]

Yahoo doesn't do a full bracket...only an S-curve and we are #52 on that which is good for a 13 seed.

NBC still has at 12 playing Texas in Spokane....http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/21/bracketology-flyers-could-be-flying-at-home/

Lunardi has us at #50 in his s-curve btw.

[bisonsupporter]

Latest Lunardi is Bison 12 seed vs #5 North Carolina. Still in Spokane

[ndsubison1]

http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

[BisonNation11]

I wish somehow we'd get the game in Milwaukee. I'd be there!

[Tatanka]

Latest Lunardi is Bison 12 seed vs #5 North Carolina. Still in Spokane




lol@big fluffy champ in 16 seed play-in





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[NDSUstudent]

lol@big fluffy champ in 16 seed play-in





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But according to UN_ fans the Summit and Big Fluff are the same......

[Tatanka]

But according to UN_ fans the Summit and Big Fluff are the same......




riiiiiiiiiight.





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[NDSUstudent]

NBC: 12. NDSU vs 5. Kentucky in San Deigo

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/24/bracketology-florida-moves-up-to-no-1-overall-seed/

[ndsubison1]

I wish somehow we'd get the game in Milwaukee. I'd be there!

that will be tough since wisconsin, michigan, or michigan state will likely be there. all could be 2-3 seeds.

[ndsubison1]

NBC: 12. NDSU vs 5. Kentucky in San Deigo

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/24/bracketology-florida-moves-up-to-no-1-overall-seed/

would hate that matchup. i think kentucky ends up as 3 seed though

[BisonNation11]

that will be tough since wisconsin, michigan, or michigan state will likely be there. all could be 2-3 seeds.

I would want it for selfish reasons only as I would be an hour from there that weekend. Wisconsin is beatable as they started hot but since then can't figure out which team they want to be.

[Bison03]

Obviously, a game with a more favorable matchup would be ideal. But we will be a huge underdog as a 12, 13, or 14 seed to whoever we play. Let's just get in, cut down some nets in Sioux Falls, have another watch party at the BSA as they announce the brcacket, and go out there with a great team playing with nothing to lose!!

[ndsubison1]

Bracket Matrix shows where all the teams are seeded in each bracket listed. Most list us as 13 seed. Quite a few 12. A few 11 and even a 10. A couple 14. One even a 16. lol. Obviously most arent expert brackets.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

[NDSUstudent]

Bracket Matrix shows where all the teams are seeded in each bracket listed. Most list us as 13 seed. Quite a few 12. A few 11 and even a 10. One even a 16. lol. Obviously most arent expert brackets.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Probably another idiot that confused us with UND.

[ndsubison1]

Probably another idiot that confused us with UND.

i went to the site and guy mentioned in comment section the UND/Denver loss and no good wins as his reason. Said he wasnt sure if NDSU would beat Georgia State (maybe, theyre pretty good) or Boston U right now. Has NC Central as a 13. Guy is not credible. haha.

[NDSUstudent]

i went to the site and guy mentioned in comment section the UND/Denver loss and no good wins as his reason. Said he wasnt sure if NDSU would beat Georgia State (maybe, theyre pretty good) or Boston U right now. Has NC Central as a 13. Guy is not credible. haha.

Wow...that is why I stick to Lunardi and Palm for my bracketology.

[EndZoneQB]

i went to the site and guy mentioned in comment section the UND/Denver loss and no good wins as his reason. Said he wasnt sure if NDSU would beat Georgia State (maybe, theyre pretty good) or Boston U right now. Has NC Central as a 13. Guy is not credible. haha.

If it was A&T I'd agree.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5LodH9-N6w

[HoopsBison]

i went to the site and guy mentioned in comment section the UND/Denver loss and no good wins as his reason. Said he wasnt sure if NDSU would beat Georgia State (maybe, theyre pretty good) or Boston U right now. Has NC Central as a 13. Guy is not credible. haha.

Dudes brackets is awful and its not just where he has us, several other very interesting placements.

For example a team like Weber State at #14. Weber has no good wins, has 9 losses and has a couple bad losses, he says our losses to UND and Denver are bad, Weber lost to Idaho State and three other big sky teams.

Then has north carolina central as a 13, a team who lost to IUPUI!

[acf2]

Dudes brackets is awful and its not just where he has us, several other very interesting placements.

For example a team like Weber State at #14. Weber has no good wins, has 9 losses and has a couple bad losses, he says our losses to UND and Denver are bad, Weber lost to Idaho State and three other big sky teams.

Then has north carolina central as a 13, a team who lost to IUPUI!

Makes no sense.

[NDSUstudent]

We have three top 100 RPI wins yet he says we have no quality wins. I don't think his bracket is based on RPI....if you don't use RPI for your bracket you are basically just wasting your time

It is funny how he praises SFA...whose beat win is against Towson and their SOS is horrific.

[HoopsBison]

He just posted a new bracket and bumped us up to a 15 and dropped weber state to 16 lol

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[ndsubison1]

He just posted a new bracket and bumped us up to a 15 and dropped weber state to 16 lol

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lol noticed that too


wow, never knew there was so much ndsu love out there, but you all make some good points, so i will bump them up to a 15 seed in my next edition of bracketology: hope i don’t jinx them!

dont be so generous! haha

[Bison03]

Too bad they got rid if the Bracket Buster games. This year could have been a good one with our high RPI.

[NDSU1980]

He just posted a new bracket and bumped us up to a 15 and dropped weber state to 16 lol

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Looks like everyone has Weber at 16. So much for the Fluffy being a great conference.

[nodak651]

Looks like everyone has Weber at 16. So much for the Fluffy being a great conference.

1 bid leagues.

[Tatanka]

1 bid leagues.




12/13 seed vs a 16 seed / 16 play-in. Keep telling yourself that's equivalent.






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[NDSU1980]

1 bid leagues.

12 and 13 seeds have managed to upset the higher seeds. I don't ever recall a 16 seed winning anything, and a playin spot is even worse. I even wonder if Weber has what it takes to win the play in and actually get to the dance. The Fluffy sucks and you boys know it.

Hey, how come UN_ never makes to the tourney? We did it the first year were eligible.

[Hammersmith]

1 bid leagues.

Yes, just keep telling us there's no difference in the value of seeding.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/NCAA_Wins-rank.png

[NDSUstudent]

USA Today: 13. NDSU vs 4. San Deigo State at Spokane
CBS: 13 NDSU vs 4. Michigan State at San Antonio

[NDSUstudent]

NDSU now a 12 seed on Yahoo's s-curve.

If we win out I think a 12 seed is going to be what we get.

[ndsubison1]

SB Nation has us as a 12 seed playing Kentucky. This would be one of the last matchups I would want to see

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/2/25/5441310/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-florida-wichita-state-syracuse-arizona

[bisonsupporter]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Latest Joey Brackets. #5 UNC vs #12 NDSU in Spokane.

Looking at this bracket I would rather see the Bison as an 11 or a 13. The 5 seeds look tough, UNC, Louisville, Kentucky, UCLA.

[NDSUstudent]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Latest Joey Brackets. #5 UNC vs #12 NDSU in Spokane.

Looking at this bracket I would rather see the Bison as an 11 or a 13. The 5 seeds look tough, UNC, Louisville, Kentucky, UCLA.

I think at least two of those teams ends up as a 4 seed or better.

[marenlee]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

Latest Joey Brackets. #5 UNC vs #12 NDSU in Spokane.

Looking at this bracket I would rather see the Bison as an 11 or a 13. The 5 seeds look tough, UNC, Louisville, Kentucky, UCLA.

As unlikely as an 11 would be... I would love that to death. 3 hour drive for me.

[NDSUstudent]

Getting an 11 seed would take a perfect storm of things going our way. It would be nice but when you get into that area of the bracket you need top 50 wins and we don't have any.

I would love a 12...I wouldn't pay much attention to the five seeds right now. They will change a lot and as a 12 you just hope to get the 5 seed that is trending the wrong way.

[ndsubison1]

As unlikely as an 11 would be... I would love that to death. 3 hour drive for me.

seeds and locations arent predetermined

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I would like us to play St Louis

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[Tatanka]

I would like us to play St Louis

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[marenlee]

seeds and locations arent predetermined

I was specifically referring to the West bracket. 11 vs 6 in Orlando.

[ndsubison1]

I was specifically referring to the West bracket. 11 vs 6 in Orlando.

we can be any seed and play in orlando. but florida will likely be there so we know a 1 vs 16 and 8 vs 9 will likely be playing there at least

[SlickVic]

Tim miles.called me a bracketoligist on the radio one time ask scotty miller.if u dont believe me

[BlueBisonRock]

Tim miles.called me a bracketoligist on the radio one time ask scotty miller.if u dont believe me

This may be and I feel bad for you. Just remember that PL has called you a lot worse.

[SlickVic]

This may be and I feel bad for you. Just remember that PL has called you a lot worse.

U were there when PL pantsed me wernt u rocky...uve prolly had stage fright since sorry dude about alls I can say is ive been blessed

[SlickVic]

I should add in good concience the old I always...lest we go the old rock all flabergasted...I kid the rocky I kid hes single handled jump started my career as a men footwear model...saks fifth we comin we comin

[BlueBisonRock]

U were there when PL pantsed me wernt u rocky...uve prolly had stage fright since sorry dude about alls I can say is ive been blessed

http://bgmajete.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/small-dog-mating-with-a-big-dog-resizecrop-.jpg

[NDSUstudent]

USA Today: 13. NDSU vs 4. San Deigo State at Spokane
CBS: 13. NDSU vs 4. Oklahoma at Spokane

NDSU is still at #50 in Lunardi's S-curve

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I rather play OU over SDSU

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[DjKyRo]

Is it weird that I want us to play a big school even if it means one and done? I think we have a better shot now against a team like Ohio State than we did when we lost by 17 to them (when they were absolutely crushing everyone they played), and a win over a Michigan, a Kansas, a Wisconsin, etc. would mean a lot more than a win over a San Diego State, a St. Louis, or another mid-major that's playing at a high level. Can't stand the UN_ fans who think we cherry-pick FBS wins in football and want to deny them that excuse.

[stevdock]

Is it weird that I want us to play a big school even if it means one and done? I think we have a better shot now against a team like Ohio State than we did when we lost by 17 to them (when they were absolutely crushing everyone they played), and a win over a Michigan, a Kansas, a Wisconsin, etc. would mean a lot more than a win over a San Diego State, a St. Louis, or another mid-major that's playing at a high level. Can't stand the UN_ fans who think we cherry-pick FBS wins in football and want to deny them that excuse.

I get what you are saying. But let's get a 12 seed against some semi-decent team, beat them. We can be in the bracket of upsets, I think that's traditionally the West, play the 13 seed. Then play Wichita St take them down. Then we might have to play a good 2 seed to get to the final four. It's just that easy :)

[DjKyRo]

I get what you are saying. But let's get a 12 seed against some semi-decent team, beat them. We can be in the bracket of upsets, I think that's traditionally the West, play the 13 seed. Then play Wichita St take them down. Then we might have to play a good 2 seed to get to the final four. It's just that easy :)

Fair point. I have to assume that if/when we win the whole thing we'll play some big teams on the way up.

[NDSUstudent]

Right now my dream is us being a 13 and BYU a 12...We both win and then we beat BYU in something that actually means something.

[ThunderDan]

Is it weird that I want us to play a big school even if it means one and done? I think we have a better shot now against a team like Ohio State than we did when we lost by 17 to them (when they were absolutely crushing everyone they played), and a win over a Michigan, a Kansas, a Wisconsin, etc. would mean a lot more than a win over a San Diego State, a St. Louis, or another mid-major that's playing at a high level. Can't stand the UN_ fans who think we cherry-pick FBS wins in football and want to deny them that excuse.

I think a first round victory would mean way more than playing a top name school and losing. Lots of small schools play big name schools every year in the first round, get beat, and no one ever remembers they were there.
Doubt the average fan remembers that SDSU lost to Michigan last year in the tournament. But everyone remembers Florida Gulf Coast going to the Sweet 16.

[stevdock]

Fair point. I have to assume that if/when we win the whole thing we'll play some big teams on the way up.

We can play and beat Duke, Michigan St. and Florida. That would be fun since those are some of my students favorite teams.

[DjKyRo]

I think a first round victory would mean way more than playing a top name school and losing. Lots of small schools play big name schools every year in the first round, get beat, and no one ever remembers they were there.
Doubt the average fan remembers that SDSU lost to Michigan last year in the tournament. But everyone remembers Florida Gulf Coast going to the Sweet 16.

True points both. I'm letting my jadedness at UN_ fans (the last people I should be concerned about satisfying) cloud my judgment.

[NDSUstudent]

If we won a NCAA tournament game there would be nothing that UN_ fans could say to us. It would be like football, all they could do is sit by their dish and sulk.

[tjbison]

If we won a NCAA tournament game there would be nothing that UN_ fans could say to us. It would be like football, all they could do is sit by their dish and sulk.

I personnally dont give a shit what they think period, no matter what this team accomplishes those morons wont grasp reality anyways, and that reality is nobody cares about hockey in the world except every 4 years when they play Russia or Canada

[56BISON73]

If we won a NCAA tournament game there would be nothing that UN_ fans could say to us. It would be like football, all they could do is sit by their dish and sulk.

They would say they beat us bad. Makes no difference to them what we accomplish after the fact.

[DjKyRo]

They would say they beat us bad. Makes no difference to them what we accomplish after the fact.

Or, more importantly, what they fail to accomplish after the fact. For example, seven straight D-I losses after we played there.

[56BISON73]

Or, more importantly, what they fail to accomplish after the fact. For example, seven straight D-I losses after we played there.

Where did they finish in conference play?

[BisonTeacher]

They would say they beat us bad. Makes no difference to them what we accomplish after the fact.

This. They are so short sighted. They miss the forest for the trees.

[BisonTeacher]

I think a first round victory would mean way more than playing a top name school and losing. Lots of small schools play big name schools every year in the first round, get beat, and no one ever remembers they were there.
Doubt the average fan remembers that SDSU lost to Michigan last year in the tournament. But everyone remembers Florida Gulf Coast going to the Sweet 16.

This. Getting a win is waaay better than taking a big name team to the wire and losing.

[NDSUstudent]

They would say they beat us bad. Makes no difference to them what we accomplish after the fact.

I want to see how far they will take it. Lets just see how big their super bowl is.

[tcbison]

Win the Summit League tournament and get a 12 seed. The last thing NDSU should be concerned about is the school up north.

[El_Chapo]

Yes tcbison some people's complex ' s are pathetic.
Ndsu basketball looks exciting watched them Saturday online I'm pretty excited for this ncaa run

[bisonsupporter]

I think a first round victory would mean way more than playing a top name school and losing. Lots of small schools play big name schools every year in the first round, get beat, and no one ever remembers they were there.
Doubt the average fan remembers that SDSU lost to Michigan last year in the tournament. But everyone remembers Florida Gulf Coast going to the Sweet 16.

I remember clearly on this. I thought SDSU ended up with the worse possible draw for a 12-13 seed team.

March Madness is all about matchups. SDSU last year would have been better suited against a Kansas St or Wisconsin in a 5/12 or 4/13 matchup.

[Hammersmith]

Where did they finish in conference play?

Not quite done yet, but they are going to finish pretty good in a weak Big Sky. Probably a second or third place finish, although they still have a shot at a shared conference title if the last games go their way. Two games left in the season.

[NDSUstudent]

So Miss moves into ESPN's bracket and that slides us down to a 13...

13. NDSU vs 4. San Diego State at Spokane
12. BYU vs 5. Oklahoma at Spokane

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[NDSUstudent]

Again So Miss moving into a bracket slides us down.

NBC: 13. NDSU vs 4. Michigan State at San Diego

If Bison fans want a 12 cheer against So Miss, Toledo, UWGB and Havard

[Herd]

Again So Miss moving into a bracket slides us down.

NBC: 13. NDSU vs 4. Michigan State at San Diego

If Bison fans want a 12 cheer against So Miss, Toledo, UWGB and Havard

RPI:

So Miss 37
Toledo 38
NDSU 41
GB 53
Harvard 57

[ndsubison1]

heres my latest bracket http://betterbracketmaker.com/#!/b20033fc45135

[Bison03]

I do see that there is a "first 4" play in game for a 12 seed. Since there has been some prediction for us if we make it as a 12 seed, what are the chances we play I Akron (I think it's still played there) on the Tuesday night in the first 4? Or is our RPI too good?

[onbison09]

I do see that there is a "first 4" play in game for a 12 seed. Since there has been some prediction for us if we make it as a 12 seed, what are the chances we play I Akron (I think it's still played there) on the Tuesday night in the first 4? Or is our RPI too good?
It would be in Dayton. Don't the two lowest auto bids play for 16 seeds and then the two lowest at larges play for 11 and 12 seeds? I could be wrong.

[HoopsBison]

It would be in Dayton. Don't the two lowest auto bids play for 16 seeds and then the two lowest at larges play for 11 and 12 seeds? I could be wrong.

Correct, if the Bison are a 12 seed they will not be in Dayton for a play in game.

[ndsubison1]

only automatic bids for the play in games are four 16 seeds. The other four are for the bubble teams and could be 11/12/13 depending on how the committee seeds it. last years first four were 16 Liberty vs NC A&T; 16. James Madison vs Long Island; 11 St. Marys vs Middle Tennesee; and 13. Boise State vs La Salle

[NDSU1980]

heres my latest bracket http://betterbracketmaker.com/#!/b20033fc45135
I see you have Big Fluffy Weber at 16. Do you really think they will survive a play in and actually get that 16 bid? I don't.

[NDSUstudent]

USA Today: 13. NDSU vs 4. San Diego State at Spokane
CBS: 13. NDSU vs 4. Iowa State at San Antonio

NDSU still at 49(12 seed) on Yahoo's S-Curve

[ndsubison1]

Fox Sports/Yard Barker has us as a 12 seed playing Texas in San Diego

http://network.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/article_external/ncaa_tournament_bracket_projections_february_25/15882922

[bisonsupporter]

#4 Cincinnati vs #13 North Dakota St in Spokane- South Region

http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

[TAILG8R]

So one thing we can gather from all these bracketology predictions is that we will definitely be playing another team that makes it to the NCAA tournament. Got it.

[NDSUstudent]

USA Today: 13. NDSU vs 4. San Diego State at Spokane
NBC: 13. NDSU vs 4. UNC at Spokane

[90 BISON]

Which teams losing would help us the most for NCAA seeding?

[NDSUstudent]

Which teams losing would help us the most for NCAA seeding?

Green Bay, Toledo, Harvard, Southern Miss, La Tech and Stephen F Austin.

[90 BISON]

Green Bay, Toledo, Harvard, Southern Miss, La Tech and Stephen F Austin.

Thank you!

[NDSUstudent]

The Bison do get a little resume boost as Western Michigan beats Central Michigan, clinches a share of the MAC title and the #1 seed in the MAC tournament.

That was a really nice road win.

[90 BISON]

Green Bay lost, they are out of the running in the Horizon League! Should help our seeding. Unfortunately Harvard won their last game in OT. Hopefully things fall right for us to climb up to the 12 line if we win the Summit.

[ThunderDan]

Wow, total choke job by Green Bay. Good for us, assuming we don't do the same.

[NDSUstudent]

CBS: 12. NDSU vs 5. UConn at Spokane (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
USA Today: 13. NDSU vs 4. San Diego State at Spokane (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/03/09/usa-today-sports-ncaa-tournament-bracketology/6228743/)
SBnation: 12. NDSU vs 5. Oklahoma at San Antonio (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/3/9/5487266/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-tennessee-arkansas-nebraska-bubble)

[oldmantutters]

CBS: 12. NDSU vs 5. UConn at Spokane (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
USA Today: 13. NDSU vs 4. San Diego State at Spokane (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/03/09/usa-today-sports-ncaa-tournament-bracketology/6228743/)
SBnation: 12. NDSU vs 5. Oklahoma at San Antonio (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/3/9/5487266/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-tennessee-arkansas-nebraska-bubble)

Texas has been good to NDSU jussayin'


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[NDSUstudent]

Sucks for GB that they lost, I hope NDSU gets a 12 and GB gets an at-large.

Would rather see GB in the field than some mediocre BCS school.

[tjbison]

Sucks for GB that they lost, I hope NDSU gets a 12 and GB gets an at-large.

Would rather see GB in the field than some mediocre BCS school.


we need to win first man.......cause no way we get an at large

[NDSUFan_Sav]

we need to win first man.......cause no way we get an at large

You going to be down here for the games?

Pretty sure Green Bay is in.

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[tjbison]

You going to be down here for the games?

Pretty sure Green Bay is in.

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wish I was have to be gone for work....hoping to make the NCAA game if we get there

[HerdBoy]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[ndsubison1]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

would like to play UConn. not much of a frontcourt. just two really good guards

[NDSUFan_Sav]

would like to play UConn. not much of a frontcourt. just two really good guards

Exactly what i been thinking

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[NDSUstudent]

Now that we made it, some things to cheer for...I'll try to keep it simple...

MAC:
Cheer for Western Michigan, they are the #1 seed in the MAC and of course we beat them at their place. Cheer against Toledo.

SLC:
Cheer against SFA, like Toledo they are another potential 12 seed.

WAC:
Cheer for Utah Valley, another team that we beat on the road and it looks nice to have a win over an NCAA tournament team.

CUSA:
La Tech, So Miss and Mid Tenn State are all potential threats. Best case might be So Miss losing to a team like Tulsa in the final since their wins would still help us but it would put them in Dayton instead of in competition with us. Of course then Tulsa could jump us, not sure what is best in that conference.

There are a few other things that could help a bit but one involves cheering against Tim Miles and well the other involves cheering for a certain school in the big fluffy.

[Kermit]

Now that we made it, some things to cheer for...I'll try to keep it simple...

MAC:
Cheer for Western Michigan, they are the #1 seed in the MAC and of course we beat them at their place. Cheer against Toledo.


I get where you are coming from, but it would be hard to cheer against Jason Kemp. He is a great guy.

[NDSUstudent]

I get where you are coming from, but it would be hard to cheer against Jason Kemp. He is a great guy.

I agree, would love to see him get to the tournament but I want NDSU to get a great seed. It is tough.

[NDSUstudent]

Lunardi's latest....

ESPN: NDSU 12 vs 5. UConn (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)

[bisonaudit]

Lunardi's latest....

ESPN: NDSU 12 vs 5. UConn (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)

I thought I saw CBS's guy had the same take.

[NDSUstudent]

I thought I saw CBS's guy had the same take.

Yep CBS is very similar....http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

A few others....

SBnation: 12. NDSU vs 5. St Louis at San Antonio (http://www.sbnation.com/2014/3/12/5499832/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-byu-georgetown-oregon)
USA Today: 13. NDSU 4. San Deigo State at Spokane (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/03/09/usa-today-sports-ncaa-tournament-bracketology/6228743/)
(http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/03/09/usa-today-sports-ncaa-tournament-bracketology/6228743/)NBC: 13. NDSU vs 4. Michigan State at San Deigo (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/12/bracketology-gonzaga-grabs-wcc-title-byu-waits/)

[KSBisonFan]

ESPN had a graphic last night showing 9 #1 seeds in the conference tournaments have been knocked out so far. Should make the seeding even more interesting and thank goodness we weren't on that list. What's even crazier is a lot of the conferences have the #1 seed host their championship game and they've been losing in front of a true home crowd.

[Nel360]

ESPN new brackets has NDSU (12) playing St Louis (5) in Spokane

[NDSUstudent]

Things to cheer for today...

Ohio State to beat Purdue
Utah Valley to beat Texas Pan Am
ODU over Mid Tenn State
Charlotte over La Tech

[NWNDBison]

ESPN new brackets has NDSU (12) playing St Louis (5) in Spokane

I like this bracket better than yesterday's.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[NDSUstudent]

ESPN new brackets has NDSU (12) playing St Louis (5) in Spokane

My favorite bracket so far.

[HerdBoy]

The Billikens? Sounds good to me.

:hungry:

[Tatanka]

The Billikens? Sounds good to me.



:hungry:




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[silkamilkamonico]

St Louis is a really good program. They are kind of an up and coming Midwestern version of Gonzaga.

[NWNDBison]

I thought this was an interesting comment on bubble teams in thesportsbank.net bracketology reporto

"Regardless of who wins the C-USA Tournament, I think it is a one bid league. Southern Miss’ best non-conference win came against North Dakota State."

http://tinyurl.com/kjeun2g

[tcbison]

St Louis is a really good program. They are kind of an up and coming Midwestern version of Gonzaga.

Plus they are playing for the late Rick Majerus.

[Loud and Proud Bison fan]

This is bracketology on NBC Sports...


San Diego
4) Michigan State Vs. 13) NORTH DAKOTA ST
5) Oklahoma vs. 12) Toledo

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/13/bracketology-its-moving-day-for-march-madness/

I really Really dont want to see Michigan St. First round.

[bisonfan08]

This is bracketology on NBC Sports...


San Diego
4) Michigan State Vs. 13) NORTH DAKOTA ST
5) Oklahoma vs. 12) Toledo

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/13/bracketology-its-moving-day-for-march-madness/

I really Really dont want to see Michigan St. First round.

I agree, the last thing I want to see is a team that under Tom Izzo is one of the most prepared tournament teams year in and year out. Granted they aren't quite as talented this year as they have been in years past but I would much rather see a team like UConn, St. Louis or Texas that is more inconsistent.

[NDSUstudent]

Things to cheer for today...

Ohio State to beat Purdue
Utah Valley to beat Texas Pan Am
ODU over Mid Tenn State
Charlotte over La Tech

Ohio State is struggling with Purdue. Utah Valley is destroying Texas Pan Am.

[MN_BISON]

careful what you wish for. The bills are salty.







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They may be salty but only NDSU has Saulty on their bench, advantage Bison.

[HerdBoy]

careful what you wish for. The bills are salty.


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I would agree they are a good team. But to me it is all about who is playing well right now. The Billikens have had 5 losses this year. 3 of those losses occurred within the past 3 weeks. Maybe not playing their best b-ball right now.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

careful what you wish for. The bills are salty.





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Well said I don't want a sr deep team in st louis who is hungry to prove people wrong. Yes they are playing bad as of late but were also top 10 before.

Give me Napier and Co. Aka uconn

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[ndsubison1]

uconn played awesome today vs memphis... in memphis. but i doubt theyll stay hot like that. i think they beat cincy and lose to lville in the ship

[NDSUstudent]

CBS: 12. NDSU vs 5. UConn at Spokane (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
ESPN: 12. NDSU vs 5. Oklahoma at Spokane (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
SBnation: 12. NDSU vs 5. Oklahoma at Spokane (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/3/14/5508078/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-bubble)
USA Today: 13. NDSU vs 4. San Deigo State at Spokane (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/03/09/usa-today-sports-ncaa-tournament-bracketology/6228743/)
NBC: 13. NDSU vs 4. Michigan State at Spokane (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/14/bracketology-final-no-1-seed-up-for-grabs/related/)

[Loud and Proud Bison fan]

Just added on to NDSUstudent's post... USA Today..

5) Oklahoma vs. (12) Play-In: BYU/Minnesota

(4) San Diego State vs. (13) North Dakota State

How great would it be to play either one of those 12 seeds in the second round. Not counting my chickens before they are hatched.. but both would be great to crush :duel:

[NDSUstudent]

Things that could help us today...

WMU over Akron
UVU over Idaho
EMU over Toledo(sorry Jason Kemp :( )
Tulsa over Mid Tenn St
NW ST over SFA
USM over La Tech

Ohio State over Nebraska could help our RPI a bit but go Tim Miles!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Id prefer Uconn or Oklahoma over SDSU and Mich St

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[Jay]

St. Bonny is up 2 on STL, under 4:00 to play.

[Jay]

St. Bonny is up 2 on STL, under 4:00 to play.

The Bonnies won by 3. Would think this drops STL now of the 5 line.

[Nel360]

ESPN now has us in Spokane NDSU(12) VS OKLA(5)

[NDSUFan_Sav]

ESPN now has us in Spokane NDSU(12) VS OKLA(5)

I'll take it, Oklahoma does have some good players in Clameron Clark and Buddy Hield.

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[HerdBoy]

The Bonnies won by 3. Would think this drops STL now of the 5 line.

Not enough salt.

[natstar1]

I know it's impossible to ask a question like this without a bunch of jokes ensuing, but what seed would UND be looking at if they were to make it?

[Tatanka]

I know it's impossible to ask a question like this without a bunch of jokes ensuing, but what seed would UND be looking at if they were to make it?




lock for a 17 or 18.


Seriously though with a sub 200 RPI they'd be a play in 16, same as their conference champion if they were to make it.





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[NDSUstudent]

I know it's impossible to ask a question like this without a bunch of jokes ensuing, but what seed would UND be looking at if they were to make it?

Likely a 16, not sure if they would be in the play-in or not though.

[DIBISON]

I know it's impossible to ask a question like this without a bunch of jokes ensuing, but what seed would UND be looking at if they were to make it?
No better than a 16 and likely a play in game.

[ndsubison1]

I know it's impossible to ask a question like this without a bunch of jokes ensuing, but what seed would UND be looking at if they were to make it?

they would be for sure be in play in game as 16

[Hammersmith]

lock for a 17 or 18.


Seriously though with a sub 200 RPI they'd be a play in 16, same as their conference champion if they were to make it.

And a play-in game is actually preferred if your only choices are a 15 or 16 seed. 15 seeds have rarely advanced, but it's about as likely as me going home with a supermodel. And no 16 seed has ever knocked out a 1 seed. So that play-in game is your only real chance for a win. And for some stupid reason that actually counts as an extra share in the money*. And each share is worth something like $1.5-2.0 million over 6 years(last I checked). So take the play-in game against another bad team, hope for the win and the extra money, and then get your butt kicked versus a 1 seed.

Does that mean a 16 seed and the extra money is better than a 12 or 13 seed? Oh, HELL no. The real chance for a win is far more valuable than an extra share.


*money goes to the conference, not the school

[Tatanka]

And a play-in game is actually preferred if your only choices are a 15 or 16 seed. 15 seeds have rarely advanced, but it's about as likely as me going home with a supermodel. And no 16 seed has ever knocked out a 1 seed. So that play-in game is your only real chance for a win. And for some stupid reason that actually counts as an extra share in the money*. And each share is worth something like $1.5-2.0 million over 6 years(last I checked). So take the play-in game against another bad team, hope for the win and the extra money, and then get your butt kicked versus a 1 seed.


http://perform-360.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/you_serious_clark.png

What a complete pile of shit. (the scheme and the team actually)

[ndsubison1]

what if und became first 16 seed to beat a 1 seed? lol /purpleferdayz

[Tatanka]

what if und became first 16 seed to beat a 1 seed? lol /purpleferdayz

:rofl: BWAAHHAHHAHAHAHHAAAA HA ha

I think I just broke my funny bone.

[Hammersmith]

What a complete pile of shit. (the scheme and the team actually)

Are you saying that winning the play-in game shouldn't get you an extra share? (I think it's stupid, personally.)

Or are you saying it's better to be one of the "top 2" 16 seeds(no play-in game) than one of the bottom 4? (I'll take the shit sandwich and $2M over just the shit sandwich.)

Or are you saying it's better to be a 15 seed over a bottom four 16 seed? (sandwich plus the money versus a marginally tastier sandwich)


I could see debate over the last one, but the first two are pretty clear cut IMO.

[NDSU1980]

A play in game is NOT the same as getting a seed to the tourney. I wouldn't even consider it a tourney appearance unless you win your play in spot. What joke that UN_ actually thinks a play in is dancing. Hell no.

[NDSUBowler]

A play in game is NOT the same as getting a seed to the tourney. I wouldn't even consider it a tourney appearance unless you win your play in spot. What joke that UN_ actually thinks a play in is dancing. Hell no.
I think its dancing. The tourney is 68 teams, not 64.

As fun as it is to shit on UN_, lets not become ignorant fans who attempt to discredit them if they make a play-in game.

The last 4 in on the bubble for at-larges play in play-in games as well...are you saying that they truly didn't make the tourney even though they were selected for the tourney as an at-large 11 or 12?

[NDSUBowler]

Likewise, if NDSU somehow went 15-16 and miraculously won the Summit title for an at-large and were given a play-in spot as a 16 seed, we would ALL be fired up for NDSU still making the TOURNEY.

[BYZEN]

Not to change the subject butttt....do I root for UCONN to win over Cincy if we want. A 12 seed against UCONN as a 5?

[Tatanka]

Are you saying that winning the play-in game shouldn't get you an extra share? (I think it's stupid, personally.)

Or are you saying it's better to be one of the "top 2" 16 seeds(no play-in game) than one of the bottom 4? (I'll take the shit sandwich and $2M over just the shit sandwich.)

Or are you saying it's better to be a 15 seed over a bottom four 16 seed? (sandwich plus the money versus a marginally tastier sandwich)


I could see debate over the last one, but the first two are pretty clear cut IMO.

The first one. Simply ridiculous.

[NDSU1980]

I think its dancing. The tourney is 68 teams, not 64.

As fun as it is to shit on UN_, lets not become ignorant fans who attempt to discredit them if they make a play-in game.

The last 4 in on the bubble for at-larges play in play-in games as well...are you saying that they truly didn't make the tourney even though they were selected for the tourney as an at-large 11 or 12?
Does the bracket you fill out for Yahoo start before the play in games, or after it's been determined? I rest my case.

[ndsubison1]

Does the bracket you fill out for Yahoo start before the play in games, or after it's been determined? I rest my case.

it starts before. they lump the two teams of each "First Four" together

[DIBISON]

Bleacher Report

#4 Michigan St
#13 NDSU
Midwest Region

Weber St/UND Play in Game #16 Seed

[NDSUstudent]

Seems like getting a 12 seed really hinges on what happens in the MAC championship game. WMU wins and we are likely a 12, Toledo wins and probably a 13. Basically every bracket with Toledo in has us at 13 and every bracket with WMU in has us at 12.

Only other big impact game is Tulsa-La Tech. We want Tulsa to win, if both WMU and Tulsa won I would say a 12 is a stone cold lock.

The Tulsa game starts at 10:35 on CBS, should interesting to see the impact if Tulsa wins. La Tech would be a solid 12, Tulsa probably a 13. The MAC game doesn't start until 5:30 on ESPN2.

[NDSUBowler]

Does the bracket you fill out for Yahoo start before the play in games, or after it's been determined? I rest my case.
That is done to give extra days to submit brackets. With brackets not coming out until Sunday, it makes perfect sense to allow 2 extra days to submit brackets since if they included the other games, people would only have 2 days to do theirs.

If that is your 'game, set, match' point on this, your case needs a bit of working.

[NDSUBowler]

Does the bracket you fill out for Yahoo start before the play in games, or after it's been determined? I rest my case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_Championship

If you can find anything on there saying that the 1st 4 games don't count as part of the tourney then you can make a slightly better case.

[No_Skill]

I think its dancing. The tourney is 68 teams, not 64.

As fun as it is to shit on UN_, lets not become ignorant fans who attempt to discredit them if they make a play-in game.

The last 4 in on the bubble for at-larges play in play-in games as well...are you saying that they truly didn't make the tourney even though they were selected for the tourney as an at-large 11 or 12?

The play in games are absolutely part of the dance and a win certainly counts. In fact, if und were to win a play in game it would be the most important athletic event in the history of their school.

[Tatanka]

The play in games are absolutely part of the dance and a win certainly counts. In fact, if und were to win a play in game it would be the most important athletic event in the history of their school.




butthockey?

Seriously though you're absolutely correct. Equally correct is the fact that nobody on the planet will be able to convince them of that. Hell, how many of them even know they have a basketball team other than when they won their super bowl?





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[grizlandbisonfan]

This may be the most absurd conversation ever I've ever read on Bisonville. Forget for a moment the hockey school to the north, winning your conference tourney and getting an autobid is making the big dance! Don't take it out on the autobids because the $$ grubbing NCAA wants to expand and allow for more fringe power conference schools the ability to get in. Punishing schools that are playing well late in the season ignores what makes this tourney so intriguing.

[2011BisonAlumni]

A play in game is NOT the same as getting a seed to the tourney. I wouldn't even consider it a tourney appearance unless you win your play in spot. What joke that UN_ actually thinks a play in is dancing. Hell no.

You are a moron.

I remember a certain VCU team who played a play in game going all the way to the final four.

Good for UND. I am happy to see their university find success in something other than hockey.

[NorthernBison]

You are a moron.

I remember a certain VCU team who played a play in game going all the way to the final four.

Good for UND. I am happy to see their university find success in something other than hockey.

That's a bit harsh and also an apples and oranges comparison. The VCU example is not a play in 16 seed. One of the Bracketology projections has two potential 11 seeds playing on Tuesday.

I do agree that being on ANY LINE in the tournament is an accomplishment.

[Grizzled]

Does the bracket you fill out for Yahoo start before the play in games, or after it's been determined? I rest my case.

As someone mentioned on their board, every team playing in the NIT, CIT, and CBI tournaments would gladly trade their spot for a spot in a play in game. I agree and say they are part of the tournament.

[NDSU92]

I think this type of conversation is the reason why the NCAA has quit calling them "Play-in" games, which makes it sound like you need to play the game to get into the actual tournament and started calling them first round games.

[tcbison]

I think this type of conversation is the reason why the NCAA has quit calling them "Play-in" games, which makes it sound like you need to play the game to get into the actual tournament and started calling them first round games.

That is a good point. NDSU has already made it to the second round!

[NDSUstudent]

ESPN: 12. NDSU vs 5. Oklahoma at Spokane (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
CBS: 12. NDSU vs 5. UConn at Spokane (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
SBnation: 12. NDSU vs 5. Kentucky at Spokane (http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2014/3/15/5511504/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-bubble-tennessee-dayton-minnesota)
USA Today: 12. NDSU vs 5. North Carolina at San Deigo (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/03/09/usa-today-sports-ncaa-tournament-bracketology/6228743/)
NBC: 13. NDSU vs 4. San Diego State at Spokane (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/15/bracketology-will-we-have-a-bid-thief/related/)

[NDSUstudent]

With Tulsa winning NDSU has moved up to a 12 seed on Bracketmatrix.com.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

With Tulsa winning NDSU has moved up to a 12 seed on Bracketmatrix.com.

If Toledo wins think we fall to a 13 or chance we stay at the 12? If we become a 13 we will be in Milwuakee.

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[HoopsBison]

With Tulsa winning NDSU has moved up to a 12 seed on Bracketmatrix.com.

Still could go either way, its going to come down to the MAC championship. If Western Michigan beats Toledo we are pretty much a lock to be a 12 seed.

[NDSUstudent]

If Toledo wins think we fall to a 13 or chance we stay at the 12? If we become a 13 we will be in Milwuakee.

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Tulsa winning I think might make us a 12 even if Toledo wins. Tulsa has a ton of bad losses so they will likely be a 13 or 14, all of the brackets had LA Tech in front of us.

I'm not sure what the committee will think of SFA though, most brackets though have them as a 13 or 14. They played a terrible schedule but have a ton of wins.

[HoopsBison]

If Toledo wins think we fall to a 13 or chance we stay at the 12? If we become a 13 we will be in Milwuakee.

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Dont ya think Wisconsin and Michigan will go to Milwaukee?? no way we fall to a 14 or 15 to match up against those schools.

I think we are very likely heading to Spokane.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Dont ya think Wisconsin and Michigan will go to Milwaukee?? no way we fall to a 14 or 15 to match up against those schools.

True I was thinking they could place mich st there as a 4 obv we aren't a 14/15 we are a 12/13

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[NDSUstudent]

I hope Mich State wins the Big 10 tournament. I want nothing to do with them.

[HoopsBison]

The more I look at it the more I think we are a 12 seed regardless what happens in the MAC championship. The only wild card is how the committee selects to seed Stephen F Austin. If Western Michigan wins were lock at a 12, Toledo winning could open the door for us to slide to 13. Just my thoughts, could very well be off base.

[NDSUstudent]

The more I look at it the more I think we are a 12 seed regardless what happens in the MAC championship. The only wild card is how the committee selects to seed Stephen F Austin. If Western Michigan wins were lock at a 12, Toledo winning could open the door for us to slide to 13. Just my thoughts, could very well be off base.

Yeah they way I look at it there are two spots at 12 and three teams are competing for them. NDSU, Toledo and SFA.

SFA also has a tough game tonight with Sam Houston State. I will say again though that SFA's schedule was horrendous, they only played 2 top 100 teams and went 1-1 in those games. Beating Towson and losing to Texas.

NDSU is 3-3 against the top 100. If the committee is consistent with rewarding those who played a tougher SOS NDSU should be in front of them.