12/14: @ Ohio State

[HoopsBison]

The Bison fresh off a win at South Bend vs Notre Dame will now travel to Columbus to take on the #3 team in the nation Ohio State. This very well might be the best team the Bison will have ever faced. Defensively they are off the charts good. They can at times struggle to score but they have athletes all over the court. Our lack of ball handling really scares me, need to somehow manage to limit turnovers.

Go Bison!


3444 AT 3445

When: Saturday, December 14th
Where: Columbus, Ohio
Tip-Off: 7:15pm
Radio: 790 KFGO
Video: Big Ten Network


GoBison Preview: http://www.gobison.com/news/2013/12/12/MBB_1212135852.aspx
Ohio State Preview: http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/121313aaa.html

[bruinbison]

ESPN now includes a short Andy Katz video on NDSU's "reward for beating Notre Dame"

He does make an interesting comparison for NDSU, regarding NCAA tournament possiblities,
to Florida Gulf Coast team from last year.....

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2449/north-dakota-state-bison

[IndyBison]

Heading to Columbus this afternoon if the roads are clear. Looking forward to cheering on the Bison!

[unbison]

Gonna be a great day of bison athletics

[ndsubison1]

if amir williams has a big game this one wont be too pretty. he is their x factor

[BisonTeacher]

Ok. One win already today. Lets get another! Lets go bison!

[North Side]

Doesn't get much bigger than is FCS playoffs on ESPN, UND NDSU basketball, #17 ISU in wrestling and this vs the #2 team in the nation.

I love the mens basketball team, but this game will be near impossible to win. Who will score more points today our football team or basketball team? I consider it a great game if NDSU can finish within single digits. They know Marshall and Taylor are out scorers and will shut them down. OSU will double Marshal and try to stop the post passes to him. OSU is a well coached team and will be #1 in the nation very soon. That being said lets make this one of the greatest days in Bison history and shock the world!!!

[natstar1]

I don't follow Bison BB as close as the rest of you, but I'm kind of surprised we're only 15 point dogs tonight.

[YOUVEBEENTHUNDERSTRUCK]

gotta have faith and confidence and if they cant win just get better lot of season left! go bison!

[Hansel]

Hopefully Purdue quits fouling so we see the start of the game

[JSUBison]

Hopefully Purdue quits fouling so we see the start of the game

That and both teams using 8 timeouts in the final 50 seconds.

[coldspot]

you're down by 10 with less than a minute to go. wrap it up already.

[Hansel]

Wonder if they will have the tip on the BTN alternate?

Refs are taking their time messing with the clock in Purdon't game

[JSUBison]

The last minute in that game took 12 minutes to play.

[MN_BISON]

Nice of them to play Thunder Stuck for us.

[HoopsBison]

Going to be difficult for us if they are hitting 3s.

[ThunderDan]

could get ugly pretty quick here.

[MN_BISON]

I realize it's OSU but I'm not sure I've ever seen a team that has as hard of a time inbounding the ball as NDSU.

[coldspot]

why does everybody automatically stand still when bjorklund gets the ball down low?

[WYOBISONMAN]

Can't hit 3s.

[ThunderDan]

It's great that Braun can score at will against UND but maybe he could show up against a big time opponent once

[devin45k]

Stay positive boys!

[Bison03]

Before the meltdown begins, let's remember that we are playing the undefeated #2 team in the country who, since 1995 is 161-5 at home.

[HoopsBison]

Marshall picks up #2 on a horrible call...thats gonna hurt.

[ThunderDan]

It's about how you play. I'm fine with losing by 20 if you play well and don't look like shit.

[HoopsBison]

Oh hey Tray!

[devin45k]

that was a surprise Alley oop

[Schwarz04]

Pretty hard to me upset with how the Bison have played so far...

[HoopsBison]

It's about how you play. I'm fine with losing by 20 if you play well and don't look like shit.

We really arent playing terrible, missing our 3s and they are hitting theirs. Fouls are an issue but its gonna be when your playing Ohio State. Nobody does well offensively against these guys.

[DIBISON]

It's about how you play. I'm fine with losing by 20 if you play well and don't look like shit.
Ohio St. makes a lot of teams look like shit. We can be playing good but because of the opponent it may not seem that way.

[HoopsBison]

Lazy defense by Tray, gotta guard the ball much better then that.

[southcliffbison]

Score update?

[HoopsBison]

31-22 Ohio State, LA going to the line for two.

[Bison03]

I think we are playing pretty well considering who we are up against.

[HoopsBison]

Had within 5, then we give them two open threes.

Never going to have a chance if they shoot like this.

[silkamilkamonico]

It's great that Braun can score at will against UND but maybe he could show up against a big time opponent once

And just like that he has like 8 points.

[HoopsBison]

Bad run to end the half...Ohio State shooting really well


41-28 Ohio State

Braun: 9
Felt: 5
Alexander: 5
Bjorklund: 4
Wright: 2
Aaberg: 2
Dupree: 1

[ThunderDan]

and in typical saul fashion, we can't finish out a half. Game over

[silkamilkamonico]

Had within 5, then we give them two open threes.

Never going to have a chance if they shoot like this.

We aren't even playing that bad.

There's just no margin of error for us in a game like this just to be competitive.

[HoopsBison]

We aren't even playing that bad.

There's just no margin of error for us in a game like this just to be competitive.

Agree, Ohio State is shooting the ball to well tonight, dont have a chance against them if they are hitting their shots.

[silkamilkamonico]

Wright needs to not ever shoot unless he's on top of the basket of behind the 3 point line wide open.

[HerdBot]

We aren't even playing that bad.

There's just no margin of error for us in a game like this just to be competitive.

Agree. Bad finish to the half, should have stuck with the hot hand Braun. The refs are ridiculous. Call touch fouls on us and let their guys throw elbows. Only a few possessions away from a really close game. Let's see how we respond in the 2nd. But the Buckeyes are really freakin good. Look like an NBA team

[HoopsBison]

Really happy we aren't turning the ball over, only 4 turnovers that half. Obviously shooting poorly but Ohio State does that to you. Like to have guarded the 3 a little better but with our bigs in foul trouble we need to offer help and Ohio State is hitting their shots and making us pay.

[HoopsBison]

Man Tray is having a really bad game tonight.

[silkamilkamonico]

Bjorklund struggled little bit too. Figured that would be the case - he has struggled in the past with a lot of height and athleticism.

[HoopsBison]

Good God Ohio State is good, lets just get out of here healthy.

[ThunderDan]

this is the best team we've ever had? I would say woodside and company would fare much better in this game

[NDSUstudent]

this is the best team we've ever had? I would say woodside and company would fare much better in this game

Doubt it

OSU may be the best team in the nation.

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[silkamilkamonico]

this is the best team we've ever had? I would say woodside and company would fare much better in this game

Dont think so

[aces1180]

this is the best team we've ever had? I would say woodside and company would fare much better in this game

This is also the best team we have ever played...I doubt the '08-09 teams comes close.

[CAS4127]

I'm with Thunderdan, but not surprised by the lightening fast responsive post of the basketball know it all posters!! Ya-ouch!!


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[North Side]

well this is the #2 team in the nation no doubt about it

[HoopsBison]

Felt cant guard these guys.

[silkamilkamonico]

I'm with Thunderdan, but not surprised by the lightening fast responsive post of the basketball know it all posters!! Ya-ouch!!


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Pot calling kettle black

[CAS4127]

Pot calling kettle black

Umm, not so much. What if we actually win Summit tourney and get
paired against OSU the first round?! Ya-ouch!!


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[marenlee]

I was really starting to get into college BB the past couple years, but the new officiating push is really turning me off.

[HoopsBison]

Wow, that was nice.

[silkamilkamonico]

Umm, not so much. What if we actually win Summit tourney and get
paired against OSU the first round?! Ya-ouch!!


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So, if someone has an opinion that agrees with you on this team being overrated and your beloved 08 team the best ever, it's an opinion, but when someone disagrees and shares another opinion they're a "know it all"?

That's outstanding logic.

And is likely going to be a 1 or 2 seed. If NDSU wins the Summit they won't be a 15 or 15 seed.

OSU is real good and we just can't match up.

[North Side]

Teams like these really display your weaknesses. NDSU is a very good basketball team OSU is just too good.

[Bison"FANatic"]

Wow Ohio State is good. Really good.

[silkamilkamonico]

OSU defense is like watching Bison football defense.

Disciplined, play hard, and outstanding help.

[HoopsBison]

Damnit they cant miss...and were gassed.

[CAS4127]

So, if someone has an opinion that agrees with you on this team being overrated and your beloved 08 team the best ever, it's an opinion, but when someone disagrees and shares another opinion they're a "know it all"?

That's outstanding logic.

And is likely going to be a 1 or 2 seed. If NDSU wins the Summit they won't be a 15 or 15 seed.

OSU is real good and we just can't match up.

Don't really give a shit about 08 team, and not even sure who was on it. What I find pathetic is guys like u and Burgandy who just thin they know more about BB than the rest if us because ... well just because!!

I call BS, just as u do when u same people start making excuses for the MBB.

I mean, go give them BJ's if u are that enamored with them for eff's sake!!


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[silkamilkamonico]

Don't really give a shit about 08 team, and not even sure who was on it. What I find pathetic is guys like u and Burgandy who just thin they know more about BB than the rest if us because ... well just because!!

I call BS, just as u do when u same people start making excuses for the MBB.

I mean, go give them BJ's if u are that enamored with them for eff's sake!!

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Again, please quote me on excuses, examples of me thinking I know more than everyone, and where I am so "enamored" with them?

I'll wait for that quote you never give, and continue throwing shit against a fan hoping it sticks.

Some people cheer for NDSU athletics. Some people cheer for BIson football and just like to bag on the basketball team hoping they lose.

[silkamilkamonico]

Wow - thought that elbow got him in the face but not quite so high.

[CAS4127]

Again, please quote me on excuses, examples of me thinking I know more than everyone, and where I am so "enamored" with them?

I'll wait for that quote you never give, and continue throwing shit against a fan hoping it sticks.

Some people cheer for NDSU athletics. Some people cheer for BIson football and just like to bag on the basketball team hoping they lose.

And there it is--your last paragraph!!! That was easy money!!


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[silkamilkamonico]

And there it is--your last paragraph!!! That was easy money!!


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Great argument you got going for yourself. Again.

[CAS4127]

Great argument you got going for yourself. Again.

BB arrogance comes shining through!! Here is what I say/think (don't care what your position is cuz that is not for me to say): beat teams u are supposed to beat and don't lose to teams you aren't. Rather simple really, but, yet, that has never rally been the mainstay of NDSU MBB, has it?!


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[HoopsBison]

We have people who believe in this team and others who are on the fence...thats fine, but do we really need to turn every game thread into a pissing match dumpster fire???

[silkamilkamonico]

BB arrogance comes shining through!!

No



Here is what I say/think (don't care what your position is cuz that is not for me to say): beat teams u are supposed to beat and don't lose to teams you aren't. Rather simple really, but, yet, that has never rally been the mainstay of NDSU MBB, has it?!


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No, it hasn't. It also hasn't been the mainstay of probably 95% of the programs in college basketball. I guess I'm not sure why NDSU is supposed to be an exception.

So, for this year, this is basically all still coming back to the UND loss, considering that's the only game NDSU lost to a team they should have beat.

[silkamilkamonico]

We have people who believe in this team and others who are on the fence...thats fine, but do we really need to turn every game thread into a pissing match dumpster fire???

I'm thinking that's the case and I have to look at myself too.

I mean, we had a great win against Notre Dame couple days ago, and these same guys come in give backhanded compliments and the shit hits the fan again.

[JSUBison]

We have people who believe in this team and others who are on the fence...thats fine, but do we really need to turn every game thread into a pissing match dumpster fire???

Someone might as well create "The official shit on NDSU basketball thread no matter how they do" thread.

[CAS4127]

We have people who believe in this team and others who are on the fence...thats fine, but do we really need to turn every game thread into a pissing match dumpster fire???

Good point, and one u should consider before posting in response to someone who has a different opinion than yours. See above posts.


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[HoopsBison]

Bison lose 62-79.

Delaware on Monday Night!

Go Bison!

[silkamilkamonico]

Felt like we just broke under their pressure in the second half there. Glad the guys are getting home but will need to have a quick turnaround for Monday.

[CAS4127]

I'm thinking that's the case and I have to look at myself too.

I mean, we had a great win against Notre Dame couple days ago, and these same guys come in give backhanded compliments and the shit hits the fan again.

God, do u even read and consider the substantive contents of your own posts?!

Oh, "these same guys"?!?! Wish I could just target my TM money to football so I wouldn't have to give one shit about "you guys"!! KMA!


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[silkamilkamonico]

Good point, and one u should consider before posting in response to someone who has a different opinion than yours. See above posts.


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Perhaps there wouldn't be anything responded if you would come in, give your opinion, and not throw anyone under the bus like you do every time.

If you came in and stated your opinion, I wouldn't even notice. But when you come in trolling, and bait people by pointing out a selective group of fans that come to this board, I can't help it. Shit always starts when you come in throwing out the "know-it-alls" and the basketball "arrogants" and all the terrible fans like your some self righteous perfect.

[HerdBot]

Not a bad loss. Serious those guys are like an NBA team. Bad matchup for us... and pretty much anyone.

[silkamilkamonico]

God, do u even read and consider the substantive contents of your own posts?!

Oh, "these same guys"?!?! Wish I could just target my TM money to football so I wouldn't have to give one shit about "you guys"!! KMA!


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Please target football. This board would be a much happier place. You bring nothing but negative energy in here. The last time I heard you give the NDSU basketball team a compliment was....never.

[ndsubison1]

Umm, not so much. What if we actually win Summit tourney and get
paired against OSU the first round?! Ya-ouch!!


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they will prolly be a 2 seed so no

[HoopsBison]

Not a bad loss. Serious those guys are like an NBA team. Bad matchup for us... and pretty much anyone.

They are, really good. Athletes all over the floor and they can all defend. They usually dont shoot near that well but tonight it seemed like they were throwing it into the ocean. We had zero chance to be competitive when they shoot like they did.

I thought we were going to turn it over a lot more then we did but we actually did a nice job handing the pressure. Need to get home and get rested, quick turnaround on Monday Night!

[North Side]

I can't get upset about losing by 17 on the road. This team is good and the season is still very young still much to accomplish. 90% chance Ohio St. will be in the Final 4 this year.

[CAS4127]

Please target football. This board would be a much happier place. You bring nothing but negative energy in here. The last time I heard you give the NDSU basketball team a compliment was....never.

Check the Notre Dame thread and get back to me.

That said, the last time I checked, the NDSU MBB team has had the SAME S&C coach as all other sports at SU, yet they still look like string beans when compared to most of the teams they play. Y is that?!


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[HoopsBison]

they will prolly be a 2 seed so no

They definately look like a 1 or 2 seed. I think it will be them or Michigan State to win the big 10. Wisconsin is solid as well but I think their a step behind MSU and OSU.

[ndsubison1]

Don't really give a shit about 08 team, and not even sure who was on it. What I find pathetic is guys like u and Burgandy who just thin they know more about BB than the rest if us because ... well just because!!

I call BS, just as u do when u same people start making excuses for the MBB.

I mean, go give them BJ's if u are that enamored with them for eff's sake!!


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not saying you dont bring up good points but burgundy and silka are the two most knowledgeable bball posters here

[TbonZach]

Was it just me or did it seem like whenever one of our guys even looked at one of theirs wrong they were fouled?

[heckler]

Well this thread is gone.

[TbonZach]

I had to mute my TV after the half. I couldn't stand listening to the booth guys.

"blah blah blah bl...PLAYER X FOR TWOOOOOO!!!"

"blah blah PLAYER Y JAMS IT IN!!!!!"

[silkamilkamonico]

Check the Notre Dame thread and get back to me.

That said, the last time I checked, the NDSU MBB team has had the SAME S&C coach as all other sports at SU, yet they still look like string beans when compared to most of the teams they play. Y is that?!


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Well I think that's the difference between a 5 star recruit and 1 star recruit. OSU has outstanding athletes. Those guys are NBA caliber athletes.

I don't think we look like string beans in comparison to teams in the Summit. Certainly not. The SDSU team that was led by an NBA PG the last 2 years and went to the dance were full of string beans. IMHO it's just comparative athletes to comparative basketball programs.

[silkamilkamonico]

They are, really good. Athletes all over the floor and they can all defend. They usually dont shoot near that well but tonight it seemed like they were throwing it into the ocean. We had zero chance to be competitive when they shoot like they did.

I thought we were going to turn it over a lot more then we did but we actually did a nice job handing the pressure. Need to get home and get rested, quick turnaround on Monday Night!

I'm a Jayhawk diehard, and I don't want Kansas to have any part of OSU this year. Their defense is just relentless. I'm honestly not sure how Matta has got them playing like that without fouling. Most of the defensive minded programs like Kansas and Louisville have really struggled with that transition.

[semobison]

Was it just me or did it seem like whenever one of our guys even looked at one of theirs wrong they were fouled?

I didn't like the way the game was called either. Ohio St. got a lot of calls driving to the basket when they initiated the contact. Bjorklund took a blatant charge down low after picking up his 2nd foul and the referees didn't call anything. It really didn't matter in the outcome tonight though. The Buckeyes had superior talent!

[BisonTeacher]

I'm a Jayhawk diehard, and I don't want Kansas to have any part of OSU this year. Their defense is just relentless. I'm honestly not sure how Matta has got them playing like that without fouling. Most of the defensive minded programs like Kansas and Louisville have really struggled with that transition.

You can see how fast they are...how quickly they recover on defense as the ball gets passed around.

[80ALUM]

Announcers were pretty complimentary of the Bison.

[NDSUstudent]

This thread is very weird....

With that said the game went about how I expected it would go. Ohio State has a great team and they are even better at home. I just hope we learn from this game and get better.

Tough game with Delaware coming up on Monday. Should be a fun game, get out to the BSA.

[ndsansa]

I thought the Bison played well. No team defends as well as Ohio State and they had big advantage in depth. NDSU is heading in the right direction this season and are going to be pretty battle tested for the conference season. Notre Dame is going to move up in rpi and that win will go a long way towards helping with seeding if we win the league.

[Yellow]

Check the Notre Dame thread and get back to me.

That said, the last time I checked, the NDSU MBB team has had the SAME S&C coach as all other sports at SU, yet they still look like string beans when compared to most of the teams they play. Y is that?!


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Actually Kramer is the strength coach for football only. Jason Miller handles the ball team


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[Tony Almeida]

not saying you dont bring up good points but burgundy and silka are the two most knowledgeable bball posters here

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl:

[ndsubison1]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl:

:rolleyes:

[NDSUstudent]

People love to praise the 08-09 team and they are completely deserving of that praise but they never really had a stretch like @Notre Dame and @Ohio State....hard to say how they would have handled that. I think they could have beaten ND but OSU's athleticism would have given them a ton of problems, really if OSU shoots like they did they are going to beat pretty much everyone in college basketball. To beat or be competitive with a team like that you really need them to shoot poorly from three because it is going to be a struggle to score against them.

[silkamilkamonico]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl:

I agree. There are alot of very knowledgeable posters on here. ndsubison is one of them, BisonBohl is a great poster, KCBison, NDSUstudent, Hando, Sav (where he go) as well. My favorite posters are the one that backup their opinions with examples.

#SDSUbigs

[silkamilkamonico]

People love to praise the 08-09 team and they are completely deserving of that praise but they never really had a stretch like @Notre Dame and @Ohio State....hard to say how they would have handled that. I think they could have beaten ND but OSU's athleticism would have given them a ton of problems, really if OSU shoots like they did they are going to beat pretty much everyone in college basketball. To beat or be competitive with a team like that you really need them to shoot poorly from three because it is going to be a struggle to score against them.

08'-09' Team was special and always will be. One of the best, most unique players ever at NDSU in Woodside. Probably one of my favorite college basketball players ever. With that said that team didn't have a very strong schedule at all. Their best OOC win was probably Northern Arizona out of the Big Sky - they just didn't have a very strong schedule and didn't have opportunities.

I really like what this group is too. I've followed the team since the 80's, and this is IMO a top 3 group no question in terms of talent that we get to watch night in and out.

[NDSUstudent]

08'-09' Team was special and always will be. One of the best, most unique players ever at NDSU in Woodside. Probably one of my favorite college basketball players ever. With that said that team didn't have a very strong schedule at all. Their best OOC win was probably Northern Arizona out of the Big Sky - they just didn't have a very strong schedule and didn't have opportunities.

I really like what this group is too. I've followed the team since the 80's, and this is IMO a top 3 group no question in terms of talent that we get to watch night in and out.

Agreed, the schedule we have this year is much better than what that team played against. Our SOS right now is #16 in the country, St Mary's will probably ranked next week. Three of the teams that beat us have lost a grand total of one game.

I do wish that 08-09 team had schedule like this one, it would have been a blast to watch but since they didn't it is hard to make comparisons that some people in this thread have wanted to make.

[IndyBison]

A few pics from the game

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[DjKyRo]

Can't be too disappointing with a 17-point road loss to what I think is the top team in the nation. Going 2-1 on the toughest road trip on our schedule (Bryant, ND, OSU) is pretty sweet, and it looks like this team is starting to crystallize into the team we expected at the start of the season. Got a pair of half-decent CAA teams coming in, good chance for some last tweaks against quality competition before conference play, and a good chance to get some RPI material in.

[344Johnson]

My only gripe from this game was leaving them open for 3's too often. That said, even when we were covering them, they were still cashing in. Can't beat a team like O-State when they are shooting like that.

[bisonfan08]

Tough game but loved the way our guys battled. We needed to be flawless and shoot well from beyond the arc in order to win this game and we just didn't shoot well enough to get it done, I do think we got hosed a little on fouls but don't think it affected the outcome too much. Anytime Ohio St. shoots over 50% this year they will be nearly impossible to beat, too good defensively and were just too much. I think they are the best TEAM in the country, they don't quite have the individual talent that programs like Kentucky, Arizona, Duke etc. have this season but they can beat you a variety of ways and that definitely will play in their favor come tourney time. I expect them to be in the Final 4. A couple of big wins at home against Delaware and Townson this week would really prove to me this team is ready to go dancing, following a tough road trip to come home and protect home court is what good teams will do...get out and support this team this week!

[ndsubison1]

anywhere i can watch a free replay of this game?

[IndyBison]

This has a replay but you may need to have the BTN on your local provider in order to view it.

http://www.btn2go.com/btn2go/schedule

[NDSUstudent]

The Buckeye's are in a slump, they just fell in Lincoln to Timmy's Huskers. Right now NDSU is their best win.

[TAILG8R]

The Buckeye's are in a slump, they just fell in Lincoln to Timmy's Huskers. Right now NDSU is their best win.

God win for Miles. I'm sure the fan base likes this regardless if Ohio St is overrated or not.

[DjKyRo]

Great win for Coach Miles! Although Nebraska was 0-4 in the Big Ten prior to tonight. :hide: 8-1 at home though!