Official news-Daniel Sams will be the QB for the Bison game

[GOBISON123]

I am citing an unnamed source, Daniel Sams is the starting QB for the Bison game.

Depending on the score margin Jake Waters might come in during the 4th qt. This depends on the margin by which K-State leads NDSU.

[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

I am citing an unnamed source, Daniel Sams is the QB for the Bison game.

Depending on the score margin Jake Waters might come in during the 4th qt. This depends on the margin by which K-State leads NDSU.

Well, its over now. We might as well not make the trip.

[MNLonghorn10]

is sams the runner?

[BisonNation11]

is sams the runner?

Yes sir.

Breaking news. The sacrificial lamb has been announced. I can't wait for t-rex to show up!

[Bookie Pimp]

I am citing an unnamed source, Daniel Sams is the starting QB for the Bison game.

Depending on the score margin Jake Waters might come in during the 4th qt. This depends on the margin by which K-State leads NDSU.

Ok... I admit it.

I lol'd.

Well played.

[GOBISON123]

Its official

[Bookie Pimp]

Its official

No. It's not.

I'll grant you have a 50/50 shot, but nothing is official until Aug 27 when the depth chart is announced, and even then it might be an: "Daniel Sams OR Jake Waters" situation and we'll all wait until K-State's first offensive possession to find out.

[onbison09]

Why would K-State officially announce it until game day?

[BisonNation11]

Why would K-State officially announce it until game day?

Double the work coaches have to do for preparing for the game and getting the guys ready for what I believe would be 2 different defensive schemes depending on who is QBing based on their individual strengths.

[SamsRams]

and Klieman has enough time to prep the team for both. on a side note KSU will be dumbfounded when the Wentz package is unleashed. Cant wait to hear KSU fans say "Wait he is not your starter?"

Reminds me of USC NDSU bball game. Guy turns to me and says "wow that guy is good, he scored 60 this year right?" I replied "No sir that is Mike Nelson the third option!" Took him awhile to believe me

[GOBISON123]

No. It's not.

I'll grant you have a 50/50 shot, but nothing is official until Aug 27 when the depth chart is announced, and even then it might be an: "Daniel Sams OR Jake Waters" situation and we'll all wait until K-State's first offensive possession to find out.


Daniel Sams can
a) Run
b) Throw
c) Played last year and big game experience.

Jake Waters
a) known for throwing perfect timed passes

So its just commonsense that Daniel Sams will start the game for K-State.

[HerdBot]

Daniel Sams can
a) Run
b) Throw
c) Played last year and big game experience.

Jake Waters
a) known for throwing perfect timed passes

So its just commonsense that Daniel Sams will start the game for K-State.

No way its official but its a good educated guess

[Bookie Pimp]

Daniel Sams can
a) Run
b) Throw
c) Played last year and big game experience.

Jake Waters
a) known for throwing perfect timed passes

So its just commonsense that Daniel Sams will start the game for K-State.

Nice backpeddle.... Play any DB?

[Tatanka]

Nice backpeddle.... Play any DB?I know a DB when I see one.

[SDbison]

Who cares about K-states starting QB...........the Bison will win regardless.

[Bookie Pimp]

I know a DB when I see one.

That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for ya.

[GOBISON123]

No way its official but its a good educated guess

Its a pure insult to Daniel Sams if Synder doesnt start him as a QB.

[BisonFan02]

That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for ya.

Hey **** face, go back to goemaw where you belong...you have a hole to keep digging.

[DjKyRo]

Its a pure insult to Daniel Sams if Synder doesnt start him as a QB.

So you're speculating. Not exactly "official."

[SamsRams]

So you're speculating. Not exactly "official."

the real story is Waters was named the starter and Sams transferred to Butler CC for the year

[Tatanka]

That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it works out for ya.




best put on your floaties before you dive in. you're out of your depth.





Sent from somewhere using my Win8 phone or something.

[Bookie Pimp]

Not here for a flame war, just had to call bullshit on the top level post.

Mission accomplished.

[SamsRams]

Not here for a flame war, just had to call bullshit on the top level post.

Mission accomplished.

notice he didnt call BS on my news of Sams transferring.

Longhorn.......breaking news broke by me.........PUMP ME UP

[BisoninNWMN]

Who cares about K-states starting QB...........the Bison will win regardless.


This right here!!!!

Cannot wait for this game.

[KSUfanPittSUalum]

A little late for Sam's to transfer to a JuCo. He's a red shirt Sophomore.

http://themercury.com/articles/sams-waters-battle-for-starting-job

[TransAmBison]

I think the more important question is: Who is the starting QB in the 4th quarter?

[BadlandsBison]

My unnamed and mostly nonexistent sources say Snyder will be starting QB and punt returner

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[Bisonator98]

I think the more important question is: Who is the starting QB in the 4th quarter?

I will say Wentz. The Bison should have a comfortable lead by then, maybe McGinnis sees some action too. :hide:

[IzzyFlexion]

So you're speculating . Not exactly "official."

One of my all-time favorite activities.

http://1sttime2010.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/speculum.jpg

[tmcats]

I am citing an unnamed source, Daniel Sams is the starting QB for the Bison game.

Depending on the score margin Jake Waters might come in during the 4th qt. This depends on the margin by which K-State leads NDSU.

clues to source, please. k-state assistant coach? maybe dana altman? or perhaps one of the subs, bj finney? perhaps administration, jon wefald? come-on, gives a little clue.

[westnodak93bison]

Willie The Wildcat can't keep a secret

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[CAS4127]

I'll go out on a limb here (/purple) and say that Snyder has indeed picked his starter, although he has yet to disclose who it is. No question but that a starter has been chosen though<--do the math-->we are talking Bill effing Snyder here folks!!!!

[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

Didn't know where else to put this. Just a little write up on KSU's offensive line. Their line will definately be the strength of their offense. No matter how you look at it, this will be a challenge for our defense.

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/08/20/4423602/kansas-state-offensive-line-no.html

[DORMIE]

KSU's OL can't be that buch better that Wofford's. They were pretty solid.

[Bookie Pimp]

KSU's OL can't be that buch better that Wofford's. They were pretty solid.

Couldn't agree more. This, folks, is TOP NOTCH bbs'ing.

[westnodak93bison]

KSU's OL can't be that buch better that Wofford's. They were pretty solid.

I agree that both Wofford and Georgia Southern had very good run blocking o-lines. I wonder if Sam's is more athletic than McKinnon? If we can get to the QB we need to make them pay. Both are only about 200lbs.

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[CAS4127]

KSU's OL can't be that buch better that Wofford's. They were pretty solid.

I think I fixed this for you, but not sure!!

[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

KSU's OL can't be that buch better that Wofford's. They were pretty solid.

I think you forgot the purple font.*




*Purple font = sarcasim, for our KSU guests.

[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

I think I fixed this for you, but not sure!!

Beat me to it. :)

[DORMIE]

OK, so I'm an old goat and don't spell very well anymore!! Just like the other teams we've played, this one will also be surprised at the athleticism of this team. The best one ever was Central Michigan. 44-10 and we left 10 on the field. They beat Purdue that year in the Motor City Bowl.

[westnodak93bison]

OK, so I'm an old goat and don't spell very well anymore!! Just like the other teams we've played, this one will also be surprised at the athleticism of this team. The best one ever was Central Michigan. 44-10 and we left 10 on the field. They beat Purdue that year in the Motor City Bowl.

Actually, Purdue won 51-48

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[KSBisonFan]

Listening to KC sports radio this morning on the way to 'work' and Stan Weber, KSU's radio analyst, says he expects Jake Waters to be named starter with both guys getting snaps. I'll post the podcast once it's up. Weber has a son who's a WR on the team so take that for what it's worth.

[tmcats]

Listening to KC sports radio this morning on the way to 'work' and Stan Weber, KSU's radio analyst, says he expects Jake Waters to be named starter with both guys getting snaps. I'll post the podcast once it's up. Weber has a son who's a WR on the team so take that for what it's worth.

that's been my view all along. jake is much more controlled and take-care-of-the-ball kind of qb with a ton more game experience, to say nothing for his credentials.

btw, 1350 is the local manhattan/k-state sports station. they do a weekday 4pm sports talk program. gameday, they'll be on the game a lot. here's a linky.

http://1350kman.com/

810 in kc is all day local sports talk about the kc region. i never listen. but some find it entertaining. and their range is well beyond 1350. you can pickup 1350 soon after entering kansas, if you drive down through lincoln.

[344Johnson]

I agree that both Wofford and Georgia Southern had very good run blocking o-lines. I wonder if Sam's is more athletic than McKinnon? If we can get to the QB we need to make them pay. Both are only about 200lbs.

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Have a hard time believing he'd be more athletic...

[KSUfanPittSUalum]

Have a hard time believing he'd be more athletic...

McKinnon did look strong against you all in the video I saw from last year's playoff game. Sams is a little bigger and a little faster at 6'2" 207 with a listed 40 time of 4.33 on Rivals.

[Bisonator98]

From an outsider looking at KSU's offensive philosophy I would think Sams would be the better fit.

[tmcats]

From an outsider looking at KSU's offensive philosophy I would think Sams would be the better fit.

snyder changes his 'philosophy' to fit his talent from collin klien, a run first qb, to michael bishop, a true dual threat, to chad may, a winger. don't base the 'philosophy' on what you saw with collin. snyder will put the best talent on the field and adjust his offense accordingly. and he puts a premium on mistake-free football.

[KSBisonFan]

Listening to KC sports radio this morning on the way to 'work' and Stan Weber, KSU's radio analyst, says he expects Jake Waters to be named starter with both guys getting snaps. I'll post the podcast once it's up. Weber has a son who's a WR on the team so take that for what it's worth.

Here's the podcast:

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=374&f=1776191

Skip the first 8:30 which is about that crap school in Misery.

[CaBisonFan]

snyder changes his 'philosophy' to fit his talent from collin klien, a run first qb, to michael bishop, a true dual threat, to chad may, a winger. don't base the 'philosophy' on what you saw with collin. snyder will put the best talent on the field and adjust his offense accordingly. and he puts a premium on mistake-free football.

As all good coaches do.

[A1pigskin]

Marcus and the DB's will be put to the test.

[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

The whole team will be put to the test.

[heffray]

McKinnon did look strong against you all in the video I saw from last year's playoff game. Sams is a little bigger and a little faster at 6'2" 207 with a listed 40 time of 4.33 on Rivals.

So you guys run the triple option, then?

[KSUfanPittSUalum]

So you guys run the triple option, then?

K-State utilizes a variety of read option and designed QB run plays. Klein ran for 925 yards on 207 carries with 23 TDs while Sams ran for 235 yards on 32 carries with 3 TDs. Hubert, the main RB ran for 952 yards on 189 carries with 15 TDs. Angelo Pease, the backup RB had 333 yards on 60 carries.

[GOBISON123]

I have heard Jake Waters the JUCO transfer QB is throwing passes like darts and this has opened up some deep routes and plays that were not open before.

[GOBISON123]

Marcus and the DB's will be put to the test.


If Marcus Williams takes care of business with Tyler Lockett he might get a lot of calls from NFL teams right after the game.

[Bookie Pimp]

So you guys run the triple option, then?

Although you completely missed the point of the post you replied to, I'll answer your question. The KSU offense is based most on single-wing and veer principles.

HTH

[A1pigskin]

If Marcus Williams takes care of business with Tyler Lockett he might get a lot of calls from NFL teams right after the game.

Exactly where this is going.

[bisonsupporter]

Blair Kerkhoff‏@BlairKerkhoff5m
Synder: Waters won the job, but Sams missed some practices in late stages of preseason, presumably to injury.

Retweeted by Joe Schad

[MNLonghorn10]

Is he the passer or the runner

[Bookie Pimp]

I am citing an unnamed source, Daniel Sams is the starting QB for the Bison game.

Depending on the score margin Jake Waters might come in during the 4th qt. This depends on the margin by which K-State leads NDSU.

I am citing a NAMED SOURCE (Bill Snyder), Jake Waters will be the starting QB for K-State on Friday, Aug. 30.

This was just announced on the Big 12 Weekly Teleconference.

It's ok GOBISON123... you had a 50/50 chance.

:facepalm2:

[THEsocalledfan]

Blair Kerkhoff‏@BlairKerkhoff5m
Synder: Waters won the job, but Sams missed some practices in late stages of preseason, presumably to injury.

Retweeted by Joe Schad

Mr. Juco Star, let me introduce you to future NFL star:

http://www.bisonillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2012-11-02-at-4.27.52-PM-e1351891725377.png

[bisonsupporter]

Is he the passer or the runner

He is the passer from JUCO.

[KSBisonFan]

Is he the passer or the runner


He is the passer from JUCO.

Waters is the better passer. He's mobile too but not as big a threat as Sams in the read-option. Pressure on Waters will be huge.

[Bookie Pimp]

Mr. Juco Star, let me introduce you to future NFL star:

http://www.bisonillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Screen-Shot-2012-11-02-at-4.27.52-PM-e1351891725377.png

Mr. D-1AA Star, let me introduce you to a FBS All-American receiver you can't cover.

http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2013/08/11/07/38/14TJZ4.SlMa.80.jpeg

[TAILG8R]

Mr. D-1AA Star, let me introduce you to a FBS All-American receiver you can't cover.

http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2013/08/11/07/38/14TJZ4.SlMa.80.jpeg

I don't know if I would be that sure of yourself. I am looking forward to this match up. I believe Lockett will get a few but I don't believe he will get whatever he wants.

[THEsocalledfan]

Mr. D-1AA Star, let me introduce you to a FBS All-American receiver you can't cover.

http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2013/08/11/07/38/14TJZ4.SlMa.80.jpeg

Good luck with that.......QB will need to have good timing no matter how good he is to beat Marcus. I think the pressure is on your QB.....and your o-line.

[TransAmBison]

Good luck with that.......QB will need to have good timing no matter how good he is to beat Marcus. I think the pressure is on your QB.....and your o-line.
That does come off as a bit pompous*. They are the higher tier team playing at home and we say the pressure is on them. I could say I believe our d-line and db's are up to the challenge, but I could never say the pressure is on them.







*I'm kind of an expert on pompous.**

**Or so says my wife.***
***She says I must know everything.****
****She's right.*****
*****Women are always right.******
******Just ask them.

[KilldeerBison]

http://t.co/LRBhEvQ2RZ

Sounds like waters has simply had a better fall camp.

[THEsocalledfan]

That does come off as a bit pompous*.

It was intended as pompous, so I must admit I am not following your point.......

[TransAmBison]

It was intended as pompous, so I must admit I am not following your point.......
I don't think we should come off as pompous. Justifies other schools mistaken beliefs about us.

[Bookie Pimp]

Good luck with that.......QB will need to have good timing no matter how good he is to beat Marcus. I think the pressure is on your QB.....and your o-line.

Thanks, he does.... And, T.Lockett made several DB's that got drafted in first 3 rds of NFL draft this spring look silly last fall. Our QB will be fine and our OL is one of the top 3-4 units in ALL of college football. Should be fun.



That does come off as a bit pompous*. They are the higher tier team playing at home and we say the pressure is on them. I could say I believe our d-line and db's are up to the challenge, but I could never say the pressure is on them.

Thank you for a well thought out post. It's nice to know that not 100% of the posters here are certifiably delusional.

[BisonNation11]

Thanks, he does.... And, T.Lockett made several DB's that got drafted in first 3 rds of NFL draft this spring look silly last fall. Our QB will be fine and our OL is one of the top 3-4 units in ALL of college football. Should be fun.




Thank you for a well thought out post. It's nice to know that not 100% of the posters here are certifiably delusional.

I wouldn't worry so much on beating our corners. I'd be more worried about your receivers crossing the middle 20+ yards downfield. The Golden Eagle and Dudzy will be waiting back there to pop anyone that comes across them. Not dirty hitters by any means, but they hit much harder than their size indicates. Both are fast and looking to put a lick on someone.

[A1pigskin]

I am excited to watch this game but Keller's foot will need to be spot on.

[MNLonghorn10]

Care to list all of those big 12 dbs that went in the first 3 rounds? Vaccaro from Texas is one....

[reformedUNDfan]

Mr. D-1AA Star, let me introduce you to a FBS All-American receiver you can't cover.

http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2013/08/11/07/38/14TJZ4.SlMa.80.jpeg

pro-tip: ndsu has bcs talent on D, particularly in the secondary.

[Bookie Pimp]

I wouldn't worry so much on beating our corners. I'd be more worried about your receivers crossing the middle 20+ yards downfield. The Golden Eagle and Dudzy will be waiting back there to pop anyone that comes across them. Not dirty hitters by any means, but they hit much harder than their size indicates. Both are fast and looking to put a lick on someone.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That's not what it looked like in Frisco vs Sammie... I saw a number of cheap shots taken by your DB's.

Plus, if your safties are in position to make hits like that, then we won't be passing much.

[TAILG8R]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That's not what it looked like in Frisco vs Sammie... I saw a number of cheap shots taken by your DB's.

Plus, if your safties are in position to make hits like that, then we won't be passing much.

That's why we received all those unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, now I remember.

[THEsocalledfan]

I don't think we should come off as pompous. Justifies other schools mistaken beliefs about us.

Now I'm not following you again what are they mistaken on? Yes, we are very pompous. Some of our fans even where crazy yellow coats......

By the way a juco quarterback playing for a big 12 team on his first game does have a lot to prove thus pressure to prove himself.

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[Bisonator98]

So I take it Sams isn't 100% yet.

[BisonNation11]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That's not what it looked like in Frisco vs Sammie... I saw a number of cheap shots taken by your DB's.

Plus, if your safties are in position to make hits like that, then we won't be passing much.

Not sure what Frisco game you were watching, but if you're talking physical play from our DB's (I was talking safeties) then yes. This defense plays physical. If they get a chance to take a shot and get your players to think twice, they will take it. Not cheap shots. Solid shots.

And this defense is smart and they fly around. They're in good positions a majority of the time. Watch out for the Golden Eagle. He's returning from injury and looking to prove his dominance as an AA safety. He will stop your run and punish you if you leave a receiver defenseless. If I remember correctly, the DB's were only called on one personal foul ALL YEAR for an illegal hit against UNI. I still don't agree with the call. Dudzy blew him up.

[OnagaCat]

Not sure what Frisco game you were watching, but if you're talking physical play from our DB's (I was talking safeties) then yes. This defense plays physical. If they get a chance to take a shot and get your players to think twice, they will take it. Not cheap shots. Solid shots.

And this defense is smart and they fly around. They're in good positions a majority of the time. Watch out for the Golden Eagle. He's returning from injury and looking to prove his dominance as an FCS AA safety. He will stop your run and punish you if you leave a receiver defenseless. If I remember correctly, the DB's were only called on one personal foul ALL YEAR for an illegal hit against UNI. I still don't agree with the call. Dudzy blew him up.

Fixed it for you. But I'm sure you're correct because the K-State recievers have never, ever played against a physical defense. I hope to God they survive somehow...............

[BisonNation11]

Fixed it for you. But I'm sure you're correct because the K-State recievers have never, ever played against a physical defense. I hope to God they survive somehow...............

Please, pardon me Oh God of Football Knowledge. Was just giving some insight. Never said your kitties couldn't handle it. Told you what to expect. Get off your high horse. I'm not the one that started the "only if they can handle this guy" BS.

[IzzyFlexion]

That does come off as a bit pompous*. They are the higher tier team playing at home and we say the pressure is on them. I could say I believe our d-line and db's are up to the challenge, but I could never say the pressure is on them.







*I'm kind of an expert on pompous.**

**Or so says my wife.***
***She says I must know everything.****
****She's right.*****
*****Women are always right.******
******Just ask them.*******
*******She once forced me to be a cuckold in the back of an SUV
...............................................

[IzzyFlexion]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That's not what it looked like in Frisco vs Sammie... I saw a number of cheap shots taken by your DB's.

Plus, if your safties are in position to make hits like that, then we won't be passing much.

I believe that you got this impression from reading the Jayhawk's board post game thread after their game with us. Yeah............Daniel Eaves dislodged one of their receivers kidneys on the "fumble shot" that sealed the win.....and they cried about that too.
A lot of nutless folks in Kansas apparently.

[Bookie Pimp]

I believe that you got this impression from reading the Jayhawk's board post game thread after their game with us. Yeah............Daniel Eaves dislodged one of their receivers kidneys on the "fumble shot" that sealed the win.....and they cried about that too.
A lot of nutless folks in Kansas apparently.

I have never read "the jayhawk's board". It will instantly lower one's IQ.

However, that would explain the overwhelming stupidity and delusion that resides here as it pertains to the upcoming game.

[KSBisonFan]

I believe that you got this impression from reading the Jayhawk's board post game thread after their game with us. Yeah............Daniel Eaves dislodged one of their receivers kidneys on the "fumble shot" that sealed the win.....and they cried about that too.
A lot of nutless folks in Kansas apparently.

Haha....that was Tim Biere, TE from KU and he was cut from an NFL team yesterday. Made me think back to that Eaves hit.

[SDbison]

Please, pardon me Oh God of Football Knowledge. Was just giving some insight. Never said your kitties couldn't handle it. Told you what to expect. Get off your high horse. I'm not the one that started the "only if they can handle this guy" BS. This is going to be a great game.........the superiority complex of k-state and all the other mighty FBS teams will take another hit on Friday night. Wish this game was on ESPN instead of lame FS1. Can't wait to see all those disppointed wildkitty fans during and after the game.

[KSBisonFan]

This is going to be a great game.........the superiority complex of k-state and all the other mighty FBS teams will take another hit on Friday night. Wish this game was on ESPN instead of lame FS1. Can't wait to see all those disppointed wildkitty fans during and after the game.

Speaking of FS1.....I'm watching their NFL show last night and they put up the upcoming TV schedule. Thursday night is some Utah State game, then Saturday is a host of good games, blah, blah, blah.......Not one word about NDSU/KSU on Friday night even though it's listed on the screen. They'll probably promote the Friday night game during the Thursday night broadcast when there's direct competition with ESPN's game.

[SDbison]

Speaking of FS1.....I'm watching their NFL show last night and they put up the upcoming TV schedule. Thursday night is some Utah State game, then Saturday is a host of good games, blah, blah, blah.......Not one word about NDSU/KSU on Friday night even though it's listed on the screen. They'll probably promote the Friday night game during the Thursday night broadcast when there's direct competition with ESPN's game. For a while I thought the only good explanation for FS1 not pimping the Thur and Fri night games was because they may have some concerns about doing live games, you know all the logistics, cuts back to studio, booth segments and other production concerns that maybe they wanted to workout prior to the first big day of games on Saturday. But now because they are advertising Thursdays game I think they are biased against FCS, or something like that.