Montana State Buy-out?

[Da_Bizon]

Kolpack just tweeted they bought out our game this fall. Can anyone confirm?

[EndZoneQB]

There are already two threads on this topic.

[SDbison]

There are already two threads on this topic. There are? Where? Hope its not in that 16 page thread full of random thoughts (FB related tweet) because that shouldn't count and I am not wasting my time looking for it there.

[MNLonghorn10]

Fb tweet thread..

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[SDbison]

Fb tweet thread..

Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk 2 Where is mention of the buyout buried in that worthless thread (post 89)?

[HerdBot]

Where is mention of the buyout buried in that worthless thread (post 89)?

People here expect everyone to read through 19 pages of crap. Its very silly

And MSU... what a bunch of pussies

[SDbison]

How about we keep the thread with the particular topic called out in the title of the thread? Radical idea to some of you.

[loudsilverado]

I would have liked to see DMAC get sacked a few times in the FFD.

[aces1180]

If you can't beat the best, you might as well run from the best.

[Elvis was a Bison]

If you can't beat the best, you might as well run from the best.

Kinda like your thread, but I think if you can't beat the best, you might as well HIDE with the rest. Join me as we say.... Bobcats Suck. Bobcats Suck. Bobcats Suck.......

[IndyBison]

There are? Where? Hope its not in that 16 page thread full of random thoughts (FB related tweet) because that shouldn't count and I am not wasting my time looking for it there.

When in doubt click the New Topics link in the upper left. It will show all unread topics in all forums. It makes the site a lot easier to navigate.

[Hansel]

When in doubt click the New Topics link in the upper left. It will show all unread topics in all forums. It makes the site a lot easier to navigate.

but not the threads

[IndyBison]

but not the threads

Why not? Instead of going through each topic you see all the threads with new posts. Then click the button next to the topic and it will go to the first new post just like it does when you read the topics directly.

[Hansel]

Why not? Instead of going through each topic you see all the threads with new posts. Then click the button next to the topic and it will go to the first new post just like it does when you read the topics directly.

I was referring to navigating those 2 threads in particular.

[tcbison]

I really hope it was a decent buyout amount. The last time Montana State pulled this I remember the amount was a extremely low amount(like $15,000) but Montana State eventually rescheduled the game instead.

[ISXBISON]

Izzo just tweeted $100,000

[aces1180]

Izzo just Tweeted it was $100K...Shit.

[IndyBison]

I was referring to navigating those 2 threads in particular.

Ok...while there is a lot of thread drift the titles often give you an idea of the topic so you don't have to page through each topic. If you use Tapatalk on your tablet or mobile device you will see it this way anyway.

[acf2]

Izzo just tweeted $100,000

Is that considered a high amount? normal? low?

[Bison Dan]

Is that considered a high amount? normal? low?At the time that contract was signed it was about the norm or highter. Not anymore.

[aces1180]

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/390293/group/homepage/

Well, add MSU to the list of teams that will never play the Herd in a regular season ever again...

[KSBisonFan]

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/390293/group/homepage/

Well, add MSU to the list of teams that will never play the Herd in a regular season ever again...

What the hell would the Delaware St decision have to do with MSU deciding to buy us out? God I hope they have to come to Fargo in the playoffs.

[Gully]

If the NCAA selection committee would start really taking SOS into account, this type of thing would be discouraged. The Big Sky teams play a super easy schedule and are rewarded with high seeds. Stop doing that and make them play somebody.

[NDSUstudent]

Mt State is just a complete joke, I guess they didn't want to get worked to start the season like they do every year the playoffs. They are always the most overrated program in the FCS.

Sent from my MB886

[tjbison]

Mt State is just a complete joke, I guess they didn't want to get worked to start the season like they do every year the playoffs. They are always the most overrated program in the FCS.

Sent from my MB886

Well they dd win a NC in 1984...........

[NDSU1980]

If the NCAA selection committee would start really taking SOS into account, this type of thing would be discouraged. The Big Sky teams play a super easy schedule and are rewarded with high seeds. Stop doing that and make them play somebody.And it gives Sam Houston an easy route to the title game. Those sky teams are all nothing but limp dicks. None of them play defense and all of them run from the good teams. Pussies. I'm going to keep saying it.

[KSBisonFan]

And it gives Sam Houston an easy route to the title game. Those sky teams are all nothing but limp dicks. None of them play defense and all of them run from the good teams. Pussies. I'm going to keep saying it.

Mastery of the english language and teh big fluffers right there ^^

[MontBison]

True story. I banter back and forth with a person pretty connected to Montana State though out the football season. When I came back after Christmas break and asked him what he thought of the national championship game his exact words and I shit you not were "that we got lucky". All that said with a straight face and in complete seriousness. Montana State is a sad ass program that's built on moral victories and winning meaningless conference championships. They are a poor excuse of a college football program

[NDSUstudent]

And it gives Sam Houston an easy route to the title game. Those sky teams are all nothing but limp dicks. None of them play defense and all of them run from the good teams. Pussies. I'm going to keep saying it.

Montana, CP, EWU and UCD I respect, screw the rest of them.

[tjbison]

Montana, CP, EWU and UCD I respect, screw the rest of them.

And 2 were not in the Fluffy till this year, 1 of the newcomers made the payoffs

[NDSU1980]

Montana, CP, EWU and UCD I respect, screw the rest of them.For me, the respect stops at CP and UCD. The rest of the fluffy is just that.

[tjbison]

For me, the respect stops at CP and UCD. The rest of the fluffy is just that.

No way you can't respect UM..they are legit always, that's not even arguable IMO, just like UNI they are always a force

[aces1180]

For me, the respect stops at CP and UCD. The rest of the fluffy is just that.

I have no issues with SUU or UNC either...Basically, all the teams we were competed against in the GWFC.

[NDSU1980]

No way you can't respect UM..they are legit always, that's not even arguable IMO, just like UNI they are always a forceHow do you respect someone who won't even honor their contracts?

[tjbison]

How do you respect someone who won't even honor their contracts?

Well it depends UM if they come next year has done way more than the boobcats, and if they go to Vermillion this year which it all looks like they will are way ahead of their counterpart...plus they have been over history a stronger program

[westnodak93bison]

Maybe Montana State needs the money. Most athletic depts are strapped for cash.

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[NDSUstudent]

For me, the respect stops at CP and UCD. The rest of the fluffy is just that.

Well I may hate EWU but I can respect them. The Griz have made amends in my book by agreeing to come Fargo and also going out to play other FCS teams on the road(App State, USD and McNeese).

[MNLonghorn10]

Meh. theyll probably pussy out too. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here and sayin UM will be legit in their promise. After this year, when NDSU has more natty's than all montana schools combined, they'll likely find a FBS opponent to pay them to go there, citing its a better recruiting trip than visiting NoDak twice in the same year.

theres no point in scheduling home and homes at this level.

I was always against moving up...but for fucks sake, theres a much bigger crop of fish in that sea to play with, and leave this shithole division of football behind and let them worry about cash and whore themselves out for beatdowns on their own. NDSU doesn't need this crap. Half of the teams can't even fill up 50% of their stadiums anyways. I think its time to explore new options...seriously.

[tjbison]

Well I may hate EWU but I can respect them. The Griz have made amends in my book by agreeing to come Fargo and also going out to play other FCS teams on the road(App State, USD and McNeese).

Exactly, in fact they have jumped up big time in my respect level especially if they show up next year, we have piss pounded the kitties already so screw them I now welcome the Griz to a great tailgate and game

[bisonhp330]

Meh. theyll probably pussy out too. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here and sayin UM will be legit in their promise. After this year, when NDSU has more natty's than all montana schools combined, they'll likely find a FBS opponent to pay them to go there, citing its a better recruiting trip than visiting NoDak twice in the same year.

theres no point in scheduling home and homes at this level.

I was always against moving up...but for fucks sake, theres a much bigger crop of fish in that sea to play with, and leave this shithole division of football behind and let them worry about cash and whore themselves out for beatdowns on their own. NDSU doesn't need this crap. Half of the teams can't even fill up 50% of their stadiums anyways. I think its time to explore new options...seriously.

deeeeep breath.....deeeeep breath....

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[UTH]

There are already two threads on this topic.

No there aren't. This is the only thread that has the words, "Montana", "State" and "buyout" in the title.

At least now there's a reason for a football-related meltdown.:duel:

[WYOBISONMAN]

The Cats knew coming to Fargo would almost be a sure loss. Totally a puss out to avoid a loss. It would be sweet to meet them in the playoffs and grind them up. They deserve it to being chickenshit.

[SDbison]

The Cats knew coming to Fargo would almost be a sure loss. Totally a puss out to avoid a loss. It would be sweet to meet them in the playoffs and grind them up. They deserve it to being chickenshit. Wyo........could you please close the "FB related tweet" thread too. 98% of the posts there are BS or made up rumors by Bisonvillers trying to be funny. We have one legit thread here to cover the Montana State buyout. Maybe next time you or other moderators can close or move threads like "FB related tweet" before they get 16 pages long. Thanks!

[BISON Thunder]

The worst part of this move by MSU's AD, is the FCS will have missed an opportunity to truly showcase itself at a very high level. I understand the financial impact, integrity stuff, etc., but this missed opportunity is a much greater travesty. Sure, MSU will make more money not playing this game...and I have confidence Gene will find a replacement. But if the FCS is going to survive at a respectable level, these types of games need to be played. Fortunately, it appears most MSU fans agree...and one must expect the MSU players and coaches too are truly disappointed.

Imagine if Gene Taylor would have tried to pull the same kind of shenanigans as Peter Fields (pfields@msubobcats.com)? He may keep his position, but it would certainly cost him. I hope the good people, fans, and boosters out in Montana hold their AD to the same level as we would ours.

[NorthernBison]

Here's the good news if you read Gene's comments and consider the likely long term impact:

He didn't just hammer on Montana State. He alluded to the entire conference. Notice how the Forum immediately made a comment about open dates and the UND schedule?

Any Big Sky program sitting down with Gene (ANY) is going to get Gene's WORST offer and he's going to stick to it longer. The end result? We aren't seeing a regular season game between the two North Dakota schools for a very long time and I don't think a one for one option is going to be on the table. Faison might want to reconsider the contract he was supposedly drawing up six months ago or maybe not even fix his printer if that's the reason he never sent one to Gene.

Montana could very well come here next year. After all, it's the only kind of home and home that will work for us. Home here first so WE hold the cards for once.

[the_hog]

Weak, classless, scared and so many of adjectives to describe this move by MSU. I will be in Bozeman in March for the State High School basketball championship, it is played on the MSU campus, bet your ass I will be wearing Bison gear everyday I am there. Hope some Bobcat fans have the guts to make some comments about it.

[onbison09]

I don't think buying out of the game is as bad as doing it in February. GT is pissed!

[GOBISON123]

Kolpack just tweeted they bought out our game this fall. Can anyone confirm?

PussyCats are also Big Runaways.

Their own fans (BobCat fans) dont like this decision. About time BobCats changed their athletic director.

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=29817&start=40

[tjbison]

I don't think buying out of the game is as bad as doing it in February. GT is pissed!

This is the whole point, asshats could have done it 3-6 months ago or more, just total douchebaggery, now all the dildo fans will bash our ooc schedule when we get a non scholly team or god forbid even a D2 which sadly it might come to

[NorthernBison]

I don't think buying out of the game is as bad as doing it in February. GT is pissed!

Bingo. His comments are crystal clear regarding how he views this.

Just because a contract allows you to do something, that doesn't make it right. Only a fool would sign a home and home with MSU that starts in Bozeman after this.

[NDSUstudent]

When GSU bought us out it happened in October, they didn't string us along acting like the game was happening and then ducked us a like a bunch of freaking cowards at the last minute.

This was a bush league move. A move that probably cost NDSU a lot of money.

[EndZoneQB]

PussyCats are also Big Runaways.

Their own fans (BobCat fans) dont like this decision. About time BobCats changed their athletic director.

http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=29817&start=40

I love SiouxFan posting there and no one even acknowledging him. Keep it that way...don't feed the troll.

[aces1180]

I love SiouxFan posting there and no one even acknowledging him. Keep it that way...don't feed the troll.

That would be Star2City...

[EndZoneQB]

That would be Star2City...

And weird, only an NDSU posted acknowledged him. Not surprised one bit by that...

[NDSU1980]

Here's the good news if you read Gene's comments and consider the likely long term impact:

He didn't just hammer on Montana State. He alluded to the entire conference. Notice how the Forum immediately made a comment about open dates and the UND schedule?

Any Big Sky program sitting down with Gene (ANY) is going to get Gene's WORST offer and he's going to stick to it longer. The end result? We aren't seeing a regular season game between the two North Dakota schools for a very long time and I don't think a one for one option is going to be on the table. Faison might want to reconsider the contract he was supposedly drawing up six months ago or maybe not even fix his printer if that's the reason he never sent one to Gene.

Montana could very well come here next year. After all, it's the only kind of home and home that will work for us. Home here first so WE hold the cards for once.It's obvious why und was allowed into the BSC. First off, they have the same chicken streak in them as the rest of the conference in that they wait until the last minute and then announce they won't play us.

More importantly for the sky, the established members only want to play someone they can easily beat, so they needed a new doormat like und. It all makes sense now.

[SlickVic]

This is why i love my boy lakes
http://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=29817&start=100

Re: MSU vs NDSU 2013 rematch

by*lakesbison*on Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:36 pm

Hey guys. Do you want to know THINGS TO DO IN DALLAS ? ?
Pregame pep rally 10,000+. At dr pepper park
3rd base bar where 2 NDSU flags hang & NDSU videos on screens
Sambuca grill where you can visit lakesbison suite next to emmitt smith
Twin peaks restaurant with scantily clad girls with NDSU skirts
Tailgate starts at 8 am with over 15,000 people
Championship players walk to frisco stadium
Ohhhh wait. THAT'S ONLY IN JANUARY.... We aint ever been there in September. My bad.lakesbison

BobcatNation Letterman*Posts:*171Joined:*Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:19 pm

[HerdBot]

This is why i love my boy lakes
http://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=29817&start=100

Re: MSU vs NDSU 2013 rematch

by*lakesbison*on Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:36 pm

Hey guys. Do you want to know THINGS TO DO IN DALLAS ? ?
Pregame pep rally 10,000+. At dr pepper park
3rd base bar where 2 NDSU flags hang & NDSU videos on screens
Sambuca grill where you can visit lakesbison suite next to emmitt smith
Twin peaks restaurant with scantily clad girls with NDSU skirts
Tailgate starts at 8 am with over 15,000 people
Championship players walk to frisco stadium
Ohhhh wait. THAT'S ONLY IN JANUARY.... We aint ever been there in September. My bad.lakesbison

BobcatNation Letterman*Posts:*171Joined:*Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:19 pm

Lakes has this uncanny ability to get everyone to hate NDSU and makes us all look like colossal d bags. Montana State fans are great and now Lakes is giving them reason to hate us. The MSU fans don't book the games. Their AD does. Can you put him on on a leash? Maybe muzzle him or tape his fingers together so he can't type?

[marenlee]

Lakes has this uncanny ability to get everyone to hate NDSU and makes us all look like colossal d bags. Montana State fans are great and now Lakes is giving them reason to hate us. The MSU fans don't book the games. Their AD does. Can you put him on on a leash? Maybe muzzle him or tape his fingers together so he can't type?
Impossible. His dirty paw prints are all over the interwebs :rofl: Being new to this I find it amazing that I run into him anywhere with the slightest hint of bison.

[EndZoneQB]

Lakes has this uncanny ability to get everyone to hate NDSU and makes us all look like colossal d bags. Montana State fans are great and now Lakes is giving them reason to hate us. The MSU fans don't book the games. Their AD does. Can you put him on on a leash? Maybe muzzle him or tape his fingers together so he can't type?

I guess I don't get the butthurt for things like that being posted. I see the "smack" that normally gets thrown around here and most of it is pretty weak. Lakes at least attempts to actually smack talk...

[marenlee]

Some of the boards I watch it seems as though opposing fans like him to a degree. The majority of fans don't read the boards anyways. If you're using message boards to determine how a fanbase is you're. 'Tarded.

[HerdBot]

Some of the boards I watch it seems as though opposing fans like him to a degree. The majority of fans don't read the boards anyways. If you're using message boards to determine how a fanbase is you're. 'Tarded.

Right... and recruits, players, coaches, and other teams don't read Bisonville either. (purple font)

[perthbison]

For me, the respect stops at CP and UCD. The rest of the fluffy is just that.I think the griz are gonna rise again and be the team to beat in the fluff.

[perthbison]

Maybe Montana State needs the money. Most athletic depts are strapped for cash.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2After they pay the buyout, they'd need at least a quarter million to be enough ahead to offset the embarrasment. If they're getting less than that, the obvious reason is cause they're afraid they'd be embarrased worse than in the playoffs a couple years ago when we hammered them in the fourth quarter without a quarterback.

[Rockbear99]

What chicken shit move Montana State. Way to back out of you deal to come play NDSU. What cant hang with the big boys. The Bobcats stay home with their tails between their legs. With that and the BIG Ten saying no more FCS games just proves there are chickens on both sides of North Dakota. Hope we see you in the playoffs again so we can kick you ass again. Big Fluffy Wimps.

[BisonTeacher]

Prediction...justice will prevail. Just as it did when GSU did thw same.

[aces1180]

This whole thing sucks, but I still believe we'll get a FCS-counter to come visit the Fargodome in September. One thing that GT has shown is that he gets the job done. Hell, I think we've waited until April in recent years to fill our schedule...It's just a damn shame it had to be this way.

[CalBison97]

If the cowardly lion were still alive, he'd be showing up at the MSU/UND game.

[Tatanka]

If the cowardly lion were still alive, he'd be showing up at the MSU/UND game.Might almost be worth it to go and heckle the shit out of those pussies. And MSU, too.

Actually, no. Not worth it at all.

[Tatanka]

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[BisonTeacher]

What are there fans saying on their board? Whatas the general consensus? Shame? Shock? Anger? Happiness? Delusion? Vaginitis?

[Tatanka]

What are there fans saying on their board? Whatas the general consensus? Shame? Shock? Anger? Happiness? Delusion? Vaginitis?Actually there's a healthy dose of embarrassment. As there should be. Followed by rationalization, defensiveness, and the requisite trolling from downstream.

[HerdBot]

pussy

1. Nice name for a cat
2. Slang for women's genitals
3. Cowardly

1. I just bought a pussy from the pet store
2. I stroked her pussy
3. Montana States AD bought out the NDSU game because he was too much of a pussy!

[BisonTeacher]

Actually there's a healthy dose of embarrassment. As there should be. Followed by rationalization, defensiveness, and the requisite trolling from downstream.

Thats what i would guess. Even if they lost to us wouldnt it help there sagarin numbers as long as they werent blown out.

[BisonTeacher]

I think this calls for a caption this...msu backout edition. Im looking at you Tatanka.

Football offseason sucks.

[bisonmike2]

F*ck Montana State. That is all.

[BlueBisonRock]

What chicken shit move Montana State. Way to back out of you deal to come play NDSU. What cant hang with the big boys. The Bobcats stay home with their tails between their legs. With that and the BIG Ten saying no more FCS games just proves there are chickens on both sides of North Dakota. Hope we see you in the playoffs again so we can kick you ass again. Big Fluffy Wimps.

This quote brings up the age old question: Why is it so windy in North Dakota?

(A) Because Montana blows and Minnesota sucks.

[Strongman]

NDSU would do the same thing if they were offered a big pay day to play a BCS opponent or high level opponent. Let's not be such homers and have some objectivity. It's Taylor's fault too. He could have drafted the contract to have a higher buy out. With a $100,000 buy out, you risk this happening.

[NDSUstudent]

NDSU would do the same thing if they were offered a big pay day to play a BCS opponent or high level opponent. Let's not be such homers and have some objectivity. It's Taylor's fault too. He could have drafted the contract to have a higher buy out. With a $100,000 buy out, you risk this happening.

We wouldn't do what MSU did, end of story.

Hall of Shame post.

[NDSUstudent]

Dizzo's Sunday Ramblings....

http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/2013/02/17/bison-video-blog-sunday-schedule-sheningans/

[CalBison97]

NDSU would do the same thing if they were offered a big pay day to play a BCS opponent or high level opponent. Let's not be such homers and have some objectivity. It's Taylor's fault too. He could have drafted the contract to have a higher buy out. With a $100,000 buy out, you risk this happening.

Are you sure? What about the Nebraska rumors before last season?

[Strongman]

Like I said in a different post in a different topic, promises mean very little in college football. It's all about the $. Taylor needs to live and learn and put a larger buy out in the contract so this does not happen again, especially since THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS TEAM HAS DONE THIS!!!!!

[westnodak93bison]

Like I said in a different post in a different topic, promises mean very little in college football. It's all about the $. Taylor needs to live and learn and put a larger buy out in the contract so this does not happen again, especially since THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS TEAM HAS DONE THIS!!!!!

Probably easier said than done. I'm sure most teams want some reasonable leeway in case a big pay day becomes available.

[NDSUstudent]

The thing is the price of getting teams to Fargo(for guarantee games) has risen dramatically. In 2009 $100k would have gotten it done, now we are talking $200k or more.

[EndZoneQB]

Thats what i would guess. Even if they lost to us wouldnt it help there sagarin numbers as long as they werent blown out.

Sagarin doesn't matter to anyone in the FCS(or FBS/BCS for that matter, other than the BCS inclusion).


Like I said in a different post in a different topic, promises mean very little in college football. It's all about the $. Taylor needs to live and learn and put a larger buy out in the contract so this does not happen again, especially since THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS TEAM HAS DONE THIS!!!!!

This was written in a year we weren't able to hold the power. It's a 4 year old contract, relax.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Like I said in a different post in a different topic, promises mean very little in college football. It's all about the $. Taylor needs to live and learn and put a larger buy out in the contract so this does not happen again, especially since THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS TEAM HAS DONE THIS!!!!!

Back when this contract was done $100,000 was a huge buyout. Gene did just fine.

[cracker]

[QUOTE=EndZoneQB;717195]Sagarin doesn't matter to anyone in the FCS(or FBS/BCS for that matter, other than the BCS inclusion).

Agreed, but a loss to NDSU hurts MSU and the Big Fluffy more than a loss to a FBS team. This is especially true when it comes to playoff selection and seeding. After getting blown out in Fargo, it is much more difficult to make the argument that the Big Fluffy's teams are stronger than the MVFC. Am not suggesting a conference conspiracy but losing to SMU is better for the pussy cats than losing to the Bison, even if it doesn't make financial or ethical sense.

[NDSU '96]

NDSU would do the same thing if they were offered a big pay day to play a BCS opponent or high level opponent. Let's not be such homers and have some objectivity. It's Taylor's fault too. He could have drafted the contract to have a higher buy out. With a $100,000 buy out, you risk this happening.Would we? Who knows? Fact is, we've played plenty of FBS games and haven't done it.

[Bison bison]

Not sure if you guys knew this, but KVLY has been following Gene Taylor the past two weeks, for a 'day in the life of' segment.

They actually have video of when Taylor had a conversation with MSU's Athletic Director Hans von Klink..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqQ99s4Ywnw

[aces1180]

Did anybody see Gene's comments on the newest edition of the Bison Media Blog? Those who were attacked Gene for his comments in the Forum (dumb ass posters on SS.com like darrel), need to watch the actual interview. I think he did a great job in his reaction to Jeff and Dom's questions and was very fair. Obviously, when he said the word "us," he was talking about the BSC vs MVFC (UM also bought out the back end of a home-home with SDSU). Check it out.

http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/2013/02/17/bison-video-blog-sunday-schedule-sheningans/

[bisonmike2]

Like I said in a different post in a different topic, promises mean very little in college football. It's all about the $. Taylor needs to live and learn and put a larger buy out in the contract so this does not happen again, especially since THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS TEAM HAS DONE THIS!!!!!

Taylor did fine. $100K is an adequate buyout. And it's not like MSU is buying this game out a year of ahead of time. These bastards are doing it at a time from 99% of the schools have already finalized their schedules for the year. And the MSU AD knows exactly how bad of spot he's putting us in. If he doesn't he's either incredibly stupid or incredibly incompetent at his job, maybe both. At some point Gene has to assume he's dealing with professionals, unfortunately he found out that the MSU AD is not one of them.

[tcbison]

Did anybody see Gene's comments on the newest edition of the Bison Media Blog? Those who were attacked Gene for his comments in the Forum (dumb ass posters on SS.com like darrel), need to watch the actual interview. I think he did a great job in his reaction to Jeff and Dom's questions and was very fair. Obviously, when he said the word "us," he was talking about the BSC vs MVFC (UM also bought out the back end of a home-home with SDSU). Check it out.

http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/2013/02/17/bison-video-blog-sunday-schedule-sheningans/

UM bought out a 2 for 1 agreement when SDSU went to Montana TWICE and Montana never came to Brookings at all. I see that USD went to MSU in 2008 and 2009 but I don't think MSU ever went to USD either. Last year USD went to Montana also. In other words, Montana and Montana State has been using the ND and SD teams for year and other than Montana traveling to UND last year(for a conference game) the Montana schools refuse to come to the Dakotas.

[Hansel]

UM bought out a 2 for 1 agreement when SDSU went to Montana TWICE and Montana never came to Brookings at all. I see that USD went to MSU in 2008 and 2009 but I don't think MSU ever went to USD either. Last year USD went to Montana also. In other works, Montana and Montana State has been using the ND and SD teams for year and other than Montana traveling to UND last year(for a conference game) the Montana schools refuse to come to the Dakotas.

Idaho State bought out UND a couple of years back as well.

[Bison 4 Life]

UM bought out a 2 for 1 agreement when SDSU went to Montana TWICE and Montana never came to Brookings at all. I see that USD went to MSU in 2008 and 2009 but I don't think MSU ever went to USD either. Last year USD went to Montana also. In other works, Montana and Montana State has been using the ND and SD teams for year and other than Montana traveling to UND last year(for a conference game) the Montana schools refuse to come to the Dakotas.

For a team, like those in the Dakotas, in the middle of nowhere they don't give themselves much of a chance to have future agreements when they bitch out like this.

[aces1180]

UM bought out a 2 for 1 agreement when SDSU went to Montana TWICE and Montana never came to Brookings at all. I see that USD went to MSU in 2008 and 2009 but I don't think MSU ever went to USD either. Last year USD went to Montana also. In other words, Montana and Montana State has been using the ND and SD teams for year and other than Montana traveling to UND last year(for a conference game) the Montana schools refuse to come to the Dakotas.

It was a 2-for-1 for SDSU? So including the 2009 playoffs, the Jacks have played three games in Missoula? Wow...

Also, Montana does play at USD this season, so they are honoring their back end...

[Tatanka]

For a team, like those in the Dakotas, in the middle of nowhere they don't give themselves much of a chance to have future agreements when they bitch out like this.

Exactly. This will bite them in the ass. Maybe not this year, maybe not next, but smart ADs are taking notice of how they operate over there. No wonder they bring in D-IIs.

[NorthernBison]

It was a 2-for-1 for SDSU? So including the 2009 playoffs, the Jacks have played three games in Missoula? Wow...

Also, Montana does play at USD this season, so they are honoring their back end...

Montana is also going to Grand Forks for a non-conference game to complete a home and home deal. That game is Sept 14

[aces1180]

Montana is also going to Grand Forks for a non-conference game to complete a home and home deal. That game is Sept 14

Good point...There was some early speculation that UM was going to buy that one out, but they are good to go.

[NorthernBison]

Good point...There was some early speculation that UM was going to buy that one out, but they are good to go.

They better not buy that game out. I can't think of a bigger disaster.

[tcbison]

It was a 2-for-1 for SDSU? So including the 2009 playoffs, the Jacks have played three games in Missoula? Wow...

Also, Montana does play at USD this season, so they are honoring their back end...

Yeah, SDSU really got screwed on the 2 for 1 deal. Good to hear that Montana is going to USD, I wasn't sure if they were going to honor that or not.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.

[Kermit]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.

Epic post. Thanks.

[aces1180]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.

yep..../thread

[unbison]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.

You mad bro

[HoopsBison]

Disappointed and frustrated for sure, but I'm not surprised at all that a big fluff school would do this.

[HerdBot]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.
:rofl: good stuff! Yeah it was the same offense that couldn't score against Missouri State, a team that had one of the worst defenses ever.

[aces1180]

Taylor is on 740 The Fan Meow...

[Bison bison]

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let me know if you want me to order one....

[Bison bison]

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My son is in for one. I've got one. My wife has volunteered to buy one for each of MSU's 2013 starters.

[NDSUstudent]

Now a few MSU fans are saying it came from their coaches office and not the AD. If so, the financial BS goes out the window and this was nothing but a cowardly act.

[Bison bison]

That aligns with what Gene just said, ie that MSU's AD didn't like making the call.

[Hammerhead]

We also had a freshman QB play a portion of that game.


Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Taylor is on 740 The Fan Meow...

http://740thefan.com/page.php?page_id=82

740 doing a great job. The AD was embarrassed to call Gene. Their staff is a joke. Scared to play us. I am begging karma to have them join us in Fargo for a playoff game.

[Grizzled]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.

Nice post but what a straight kick in the balls to the group of seniors who spent an entire summer developing team chemistry for that team. Talk to any of the coaches, they know that team saved their jobs. Maybe they overachived in your book but that was not a bad football team.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Nice post but what a straight kick in the balls to the group of seniors who spent an entire summer developing team chemistry for that team. Talk to any of the coaches, they know that team saved their jobs. Maybe they overachived in your book but that was not a bad football team.

I agree, just saying that the formation of these title teams was a group of Freshman that year. It was not a great team by any stretch, but a team that showed us how close we could be to winning it all, and created motivation for Brock and the rest of those kids that day. A great game in Bison history. One I won't forget. My original point was that we really couldn't throw the ball at that point. We didn't need to, our Rams has massive holes open for our backs. We ran it down their throats. MSU is soft and always has been. Their staff should be embarrassed.

[berry3614]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.

i believe Arndt was the left tackle

[unbison]

pick pick.......BT was still a starting tackle

[56BISON73]

UM bought out a 2 for 1 agreement when SDSU went to Montana TWICE and Montana never came to Brookings at all. I see that USD went to MSU in 2008 and 2009 but I don't think MSU ever went to USD either. Last year USD went to Montana also. In other words, Montana and Montana State has been using the ND and SD teams for year and other than Montana traveling to UND last year(for a conference game) the Montana schools refuse to come to the Dakotas.

Hey there ADs are sitting there thinking---my god they keep falling for the old home and home ploy. NOooo they cant fall for it again---but---who knows lets give it a shot. OMG they fell for it again!!!!!!

[GrizBison]

As a Griz Alum and Bison fan living in the FM community you have no idea how I was looking forward to this game. I can't believe there is over 250 posts on egriz about this mainly between Bison/Cat fans....but the Griz fans are enjoying the fire Bison fans are taking out on the Cats! Yes, I'm sure there will be a Cat fan hoping on here after my post saying the Griz have done this in the past....yes, they did this to SDSU when Iowa paid them $700,000 and (I believe) to Cal Poly when Tennessee paid them alot to, but I don't believe they did it in the mid-February before (with not a big payday in the forecast)......after they already bailed out once before and neither of them were the defending champs. Yes, unless some big school pays them a ridiculous amount (which I believe those days are over) the Griz are going to play at South Dakota and at UND (out of conference when this was set up years back) this fall and hopefully at NDSU next year. I hope the Griz don't buy out of next years game here at dome as this is what this level of football is all about. Fans/Alumni are excited about this game. I don't care if the Griz come in here and get beat by 4 touchdowns (which they would have last year with the worst team in 30 years), it's about establishing those rivalries. When the Griz come in 2014 one of their H-Back/tightends will be the Hagfors kid whose Dad was the Bison center in some earlier championship teams....those things happen in regional games like that. With Boise St, Nevado, Idaho, etc that have gone D-1, those aren't as easy to find anymore as they were 15-20 years ago. The Griz really only have one "out of conference" rivalry with App State now because of the fan base (and semi final game a few years back) and sadly they will probably be out the door soon at this level as well. I know things are changing yearly with conferences and possibly this D1-AA/FCS won't be around long...but as long as it is I hope these types of games can stay on schedules and schools not thinking they have to horror themselves out for the D-1 game money at every opportunity...but I guess money will always talk.
The Bison are a special program that are fun to follow...I knew this place would be a FCA powerhouse with the fanbase, facilities, location for recruiting (no other FCS school in MN/WI), and the money they have here (for what they pay their coaches, etc.)....and it is the only place I have seen/heard a playoff game in the same league as Washington-Grizzly stadium. Your wish might come true Burgundy next December...."Once a Cat, Always a Pussy!...F.T.C!"

[aces1180]

As a Griz Alum and Bison fan living in the FM community you have no idea how I was looking forward to this game. I can't believe there is over 250 posts on egriz about this mainly between Bison/Cat fans....but the Griz fans are enjoying the fire Bison fans are taking out on the Cats! Yes, I'm sure there will be a Cat fan hoping on here after my post saying the Griz have done this in the past....yes, they did this to SDSU when Iowa paid them $700,000 and (I believe) to Cal Poly when Tennessee paid them alot to, but I don't believe they did it in the mid-February before (with not a big payday in the forecast)......after they already bailed out once before and neither of them were the defending champs. Yes, unless some big school pays them a ridiculous amount (which I believe those days are over) the Griz are going to play at South Dakota and at UND (out of conference when this was set up years back) this fall and hopefully at NDSU next year. I hope the Griz don't buy out of next years game here at dome as this is what this level of football is all about. Fans/Alumni are excited about this game. I don't care if the Griz come in here and get beat by 4 touchdowns (which they would have last year with the worst team in 30 years), it's about establishing those rivalries. When the Griz come in 2014 one of their H-Back/tightends will be the Hagfors kid whose Dad was the Bison center in some earlier championship teams....those things happen in regional games like that. With Boise St, Nevado, Idaho, etc that have gone D-1, those aren't as easy to find anymore as they were 15-20 years ago. The Griz really only have one "out of conference" rivalry with App State now because of the fan base (and semi final game a few years back) and sadly they will probably be out the door soon at this level as well. I know things are changing yearly with conferences and possibly this D1-AA/FCS won't be around long...but as long as it is I hope these types of games can stay on schedules and schools not thinking they have to horror themselves out for the D-1 game money at every opportunity...but I guess money will always talk.
The Bison are a special program that are fun to follow...I knew this place would be a FCA powerhouse with the fanbase, facilities, location for recruiting (no other FCS school in MN/WI), and the money they have here (for what they pay their coaches, etc.)....and it is the only place I have seen/heard a playoff game in the same league as Washington-Grizzly stadium. Your wish might come true Burgundy next December...."Once a Cat, Always a Pussy!...F.T.C!"

Nice post...Do you mind me asking what FTC means?

[NDSU92]

Nice post...Do you mind me asking what FTC means?

I'd imagine the last two words are "the cats" can't quite figure out the first one though....

[aces1180]

I'd imagine the last two words are "the cats" can't quite figure out the first one though....

:facepalm: I wasn't thinking dirty enough...

[jtownbisonfan]

MSU: "Alright, guys, we're looking forward to a National Championship this year! Yeah! Except, well, if we play NDSU, you're going to lose and our chances of getting a high seed are going to go down. So we're going to find you an easier team to play!"

Montana has some good confidence in their program!

[DORMIE]

Greg Hagfors was the center for Jeff Bentrim. He served a term on the NDSU Alumni Accosiation recently. He is is the health industry in I believe Great Falls.

[Kujava23]

MSU: "Alright, guys, we're looking forward to a National Championship this year! Yeah! Except, well, if we play NDSU, you're going to lose and our chances of getting a high seed are going to go down. So we're going to find you an easier team to play!"

Montana has some good confidence in their program!

Sounds like the sounds Bobcats make match their AD------- MEOOOOWWWWWWWW

cmon grow a pair

[Kujava23]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.


Great Post----Would welcome the pusscats to Gate City Bank Field at the FargoDome come playoff time --- Let us END your season

[Bison bison]

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Poor cats. Don't get to play the Bison.

[bkit29]

Here is what I know/remember about Montana State. A couple of years ago, when we werent very good, we went to Montana State to play in the playoffs. That year we had no passing game. When I say we didn't have a passing game, I mean we couldn't throw a forward pass. We were YOUNG. Like YOUNG YOUNG. We started a true freshman Billy Turner at LT, true freshman at Center in Jesse Hinz and we proceeded to run it down their throats in embarassing fashion. We stole their man card that day. it hurt them. Their fans were embarrassed. This year those same kids are seniors, not only seniors, but two time defending National Champions. A senior driven team that was going to again embarrass them, this time in front of 19,000 fanatics that wanted to remind them how big boy football is played. Your cute spread it out offense doesn't work. if you want proof of that, google your regular season vs playoff record the last few years. Montana State is a joke. Their leadership is a joke, and I almost feel sorry for their fans to have to support a bunch of cowards. By the way, his name was DJ McNorton. We don't have names on the back of our jerseys or your defense would remember his name as they were chasing him the entire game. We embarrassed you that day in Bozeman. Your AD was embarrassed to make the call to Gene and is only being embarrassed more and more as this news travels througout FCS football. What do you tell your fans? Yep, we are scared. The major difference between NDSU and Montana State is that NDSU admin, players and fans all wanted to play a great game between two highly rated teams.

The one thing I know is that the NCAA loves story lines. Look at the NCAA tourney in hoops. If a coach leave to another school, you can bank that he will be coaching against his former players. NCAA loves that. NCAA loved putting SDSU against NDSU last year for multiple reasons. I cannot wait until Montana State has to play in Fargo in the future. Since they will puss out on a contract, I hope they enjoy an ass kicking come playoff time. SOFT football gets killed come playoff time. I believe we beat Sam Houston by a hundred in the title game and their QB still is scared to get off the turf, and they were the Big Sky Champions.

KARMA Montana State, Karma.

Post of the Year!

[cbline]

Bottom line: Big Sky has no credibility left.

[dragonsfan]

Msum ? .

[unbison]

Msum ? .


sorry naia isnt gonna work

[dragonsfan]

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sorry naia isnt gonna work

[Mr. Burgundy]

Jack Michaels show will have Montana State AD on at noon.

[bisonmike2]

Jack Michaels show will have Montana State AD on at noon.

Word is he backed out of this show a couple minutes ago and instead will be calling into a radio show down south.

[Bison bison]

Wow.

We had trouble putting our schedule together so we decided to screw over someone we had a contract with.

[Bison bison]

What a f#cker.


'This is revenue neutral for Montana State, but we needed a home game.'

[NDSUstudent]

So gad we have GT after listening to this bozo.

[MNLonghorn10]

pussssssssyyyyyyyyy


puuuuuuusssssssyyyyyyyyyyyy

[tony]

Yeah, even less impressed with this guy now than I was before.

[JSUBison]

Real confident sounding guy. /purple.

[tony]

Summary: "It's the fans' fault for not understanding."

[Bison bison]

I think he's done a great job.


He made it completely clear - Montana State is not a program to do business with.

[aces1180]

Embarrassing...What an asshole.

[perthbison]

He sounded pathetic. He didn't say what they were getting from Southern Methodist but combined with a home game it's revenue neutral. They look like asses over this but hey, were just the dumb fans. If we do home and home with them again, we have to have the first game at home cause he made it clear they'll probably screw u if they can.

[Bison bison]

I wouldn't play them ever again.

If by chance we do, I think we should suit up Gene 'cause I'm sure he's ready to crush some skulls over this.

[Civil06]

If smells could be transmitted through the radio, my whole car would smell like feces. If I were MSU, I'd be ashamed of that man representing me.

[MontBison]

This guy is the ultimate pencile neck ad. The president at MSU is the one running and fundraising the athletic department. Every knowledgable bobcat fan out here thinks he's a joke.

[TAILG8R]

Wow, just listened to the podcast from the interview (http://740thefan.com/upload/2-19peterfields.mp3). What a dumbass! I can't count how many times he basically said we don't care about NDSU, we are in this for us. Yes obviously his concern should be MSU before NDSU but when you are dealing with the media have a little tact.

[NDSU1980]

I didn't listen to the broadcast, but from the description, it sounds like this guy graduated at the top of the class from the Roger Thomas School of Ass-Hattery.

[NorthernBison]

I can't wait until this bozo is gone and MSU fans say, "forget about the past, all the people who did you wrong are gone".

[TransAmBison]

I didn't listen to the broadcast, but from the description, it sounds like this guy graduated at the top of the class from the Roger Thomas School of Ass-Hattery.This has promise.

[Da Bison]

Wow................What a big fizzy douche:facepalm2:

[Mr. Burgundy]

anyone else get more upset after actually hearing that clown? He came off like Sid Hartman. he lacked confidence and conviction in all of his answers. He made it very clear that it wasn't all his choice (throwing his coaches under the bus) and that he doens't care about how this affected NDSU, just that he has to take care of the financials for Montana State, yet it was revenue neutral. How about when he says, we are going to play Southern Miss, wait, no Southern Methodist. Guy was either senile or needs Steve Stone to step in and fill in during the middle innings while he goes to grab another Bud.

[bisonmike2]

anyone else get more upset after actually hearing that clown? He came off like Sid Hartman. he lacked confidence and conviction in all of his answers. He made it very clear that it wasn't all his choice (throwing his coaches under the bus) and that he doens't care about how this affected NDSU, just that he has to take care of the financials for Montana State, yet it was revenue neutral. How about when he says, we are going to play Southern Miss, wait, no Southern Methodist. Guy was either senile or needs Steve Stone to step in and fill in during the middle innings while he goes to grab another Bud.

He understands that. He understands that, he does. But he's looking at it from Montana States point of view. Not North Dakota State's point of view. He understands it. He really does. It was tough. What I'm trying to say is that he understands it. Football scheduling is hard, okay?

[ISXBISON]

anyone else get more upset after actually hearing that clown? He came off like Sid Hartman. he lacked confidence and conviction in all of his answers. He made it very clear that it wasn't all his choice (throwing his coaches under the bus) and that he doens't care about how this affected NDSU, just that he has to take care of the financials for Montana State, yet it was revenue neutral. How about when he says, we are going to play Southern Miss, wait, no Southern Methodist. Guy was either senile or needs Steve Stone to step in and fill in during the middle innings while he goes to grab another Bud.

Wow.... "maybe you can uh, get some sunshine and uh some warm whether...and move on"

What an absolute clown and embarrassment for the fans of Montana State.

I've always been a huge fan of Gene and as time goes by the respect I have for him continues to grow. Very thankful we have him.

[NDSU '96]

I can't wait until this bozo is gone and MSU fans say, "forget about the past, all the people who did you wrong are gone".Post of the day.

[Trim]

He understands that. He understands that, he does. But he's looking at it from Montana States point of view. Not North Dakota State's point of view. He understands it. He really does. It was tough. What I'm trying to say is that he understands it. Football scheduling is hard, okay?

Yeah, after about the 18th "I understand that..." the radio got turned off and Stephen A. & Skip got un-muted. I should have just turned it off after the Southern Miss reference. This guy was hilarious. In the pathetic sort of way.

[perthbison]

He understands that. He understands that, he does. But he's looking at it from Montana States point of view. Not North Dakota State's point of view. He understands it. He really does. It was tough. What I'm trying to say is that he understands it. Football scheduling is hard, okay?:rofl:sounds exactly like him. Hard to imagine this tool doing a decent interview to get hired in the first place.

[tcbison]

So I see on twitter that the bobcat beat writer says they are getting $300,000 from SMU and they are paying Monmouth $200,000 for a home game. Also they will bring in a DII school.

[NDSUstudent]

So I see on twitter that the bobcat beat writer says they are getting $300,000 from SMU and they are paying Monmouth $200,000 for a home game. Also they will bring in a DII school.

Yep their schedule is....

Monmouth
@SMU
Mesa State
@SFA

[Walkon79]

So I guess I'll be the first to chime in from an MSU perspective.

I for one (initially) was very disappointed with the decision. I was in the middle of lining up a bus trip for 40 from all across the Montana Hi-Line, which BTW was going to include several Montana grads of NDSU. For me, the drive to Fargo is only about an hour longer than going to a home game, and I was also very much looking forward to enjoying and comparing what I understand to be a great game-day experience.

With that being said let me give you a little perspective from our side. For months now we've been sitting on a schedule with 4 home, 6 on the road, and three open dates including a bye week. This just didn't come up this week. We've been trying to fill the schedule since last fall with very little success. It was becoming increasingly clear that we were not going to be able to add two home games with at least one being a playoff counter without making some changes, and the only way to get that done was to have some guarantee money available for an FCS team (or two) to commit to coming to Bozeman.

SMU provided that opportunity, so IMO it was either drop the NDSU or SFA road games. Since the SFA contract was newer, my guess is the buy-out was significantly more.

I've been a booster for 30+ years, and also sit on the state-wide board. We're actually having our quarterly meeting next week, and hopefully I'll get some insight from behind the scenes. My guess is that this was (mostly) about the $800,000 to $1,000,000 we can make from two home games, plus the guarantee from SMU, which more than offset the NDSU buyout.

It still sucks, but it is what it is in the business of college football.

Flame away if you must.

[aces1180]

Yep their schedule is....

Monmouth
@SMU
Mesa State
@SFA
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[aces1180]

You know what bothers me most about this crap? The fact that he says, we have a bunch of players from Texas who haven't played a game in their home state yet...HELLO, you are playing SFA! What a joke.

[NDSUstudent]

So I guess I'll be the first to chime in from an MSU perspective.

I for one (initially) was very disappointed with the decision. I was in the middle of lining up a bus trip for 40 from all across the Montana Hi-Line, which BTW was going to include several Montana grads of NDSU. For me, the drive to Fargo is only about an hour longer than going to a home game, and I was also very much looking forward to enjoying and comparing what I understand to be a great game-day experience.

With that being said let me give you a little perspective from our side. For months now we've been sitting on a schedule with 4 home, 6 on the road, and three open dates including a bye week. This just didn't come up this week. We've been trying to fill the schedule since last fall with very little success. It was becoming increasingly clear that we were not going to be able to add two home games with at least one being a playoff counter without making some changes, and the only way to get that done was to have some guarantee money available for an FCS team (or two) to commit to coming to Bozeman.

SMU provided that opportunity, so IMO it was either drop the NDSU or SFA road games. Since the SFA contract was newer, my guess is the buy-out was significantly more.

I've been a booster for 30+ years, and also sit on the state-wide board. We're actually having our quarterly meeting next week, and hopefully I'll get some insight from behind the scenes. My guess is that this was (mostly) about the $800,000 to $1,000,000 we can make from two home games, plus the guarantee from SMU, which more than offset the NDSU buyout.

It still sucks, but it is what it is in the business of college football.

Flame away if you must.

Instead of waiting until the last minute to do what he had to do in order to play six home games, your AD should have bought the game out months ago. It seems pretty obvious that is what needed to happen.

With a 12 game schedule and four years to plan there is no reason this game should have gotten bought out in the first place and I'll say again there is no reason why it had to happen this late. It was purely your AD's incompetence that this had to play out in the manner that it did.

Like I said I'm glad we have Gene Taylor and not your AD.

[MontBison]

You know what bothers me most about this crap? The fact that he says, we have a bunch of players from Texas who haven't played a game in their home state yet...HELLO, you are playing SFA! What a joke.

Sam Huston two years ago. But I guess they didnt really show up for that one so it didnt happen.

[NDSUstudent]

You know what bothers me most about this crap? The fact that he says, we have a bunch of players from Texas who haven't played a game in their home state yet...HELLO, you are playing SFA! What a joke.

Not going to lie, I lost whatever respect I had for their AD after that. He should have gone on the air, owned up for the mess he made and apologized to the entire NDSU community for doing what he had to do.

[bisonmike2]

So I guess I'll be the first to chime in from an MSU perspective.

I for one (initially) was very disappointed with the decision. I was in the middle of lining up a bus trip for 40 from all across the Montana Hi-Line, which BTW was going to include several Montana grads of NDSU. For me, the drive to Fargo is only about an hour longer than going to a home game, and I was also very much looking forward to enjoying and comparing what I understand to be a great game-day experience.

With that being said let me give you a little perspective from our side. For months now we've been sitting on a schedule with 4 home, 6 on the road, and three open dates including a bye week. This just didn't come up this week. We've been trying to fill the schedule since last fall with very little success. It was becoming increasingly clear that we were not going to be able to add two home games with at least one being a playoff counter without making some changes, and the only way to get that done was to have some guarantee money available for an FCS team (or two) to commit to coming to Bozeman.

SMU provided that opportunity, so IMO it was either drop the NDSU or SFA road games. Since the SFA contract was newer, my guess is the buy-out was significantly more.

I've been a booster for 30+ years, and also sit on the state-wide board. We're actually having our quarterly meeting next week, and hopefully I'll get some insight from behind the scenes. My guess is that this was (mostly) about the $800,000 to $1,000,000 we can make from two home games, plus the guarantee from SMU, which more than offset the NDSU buyout.

It still sucks, but it is what it is in the business of college football.

Flame away if you must.

I understand that. Uh....uh.....I understand that, I do. But uh....uh....uhI'm looking at it from...uh.....NDSU's uh.....point of view, not uh......MSU's. I understand it. Uh..... I really do. It was ....uh.....tough. What I'm trying to say.....uh....uh. is that I understand it. Football scheduling is......uh hard.

What you say makes sense but perhaps he should have done a better job of scheduling in the first place so he's not breaking contracts in mid-February. I don't know the buyout of the SFA contract but assuming it's equal, it looks like he's dropping the game that looks like a guaranteed loss in one of of hardest FCS venues to play in for a team that finished under .500 last year.

[gumby013]

Someone remind the MSU AD that this is the time of the year he should be finalizing the 2014 schedules.

Then ask him why he hasn't done that yet.

People who suck at doing the fundamentals of their job piss me off.

[aces1180]

Sam Huston two years ago. But I guess they didnt really show up for that one so it didnt happen.

I think they want to forget that one too...

[Tatanka]

Yep their schedule is....

Monmouth
@SMU
Mesa State
@SFAShould prepare them well for the big fluffy.

[56BISON73]

So I see on twitter that the bobcat beat writer says they are getting $300,000 from SMU and they are paying Monmouth $200,000 for a home game. Also they will bring in a DII school.

Plus the 100,000 they have to pay NDSU makes it a zero sum move. Which makes this move even more puzzling if you are thinking just dollars and cents. But if you are talking a schedule to make the playoffs this could be a reason.

[MNLonghorn10]

Pusssies


Puuuusssiiiieeesss
Puuusssiiiiiieeeess!!!1!!!1!!1



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[56BISON73]

Someone remind the MSU AD that this is the time of the year he should be finalizing the 2014 schedules.

Then ask him why he hasn't done that yet.

People who suck at doing the fundamentals of their job piss me off.

GT just signed Delaware State for this year. Just sayin

[Tatanka]

Pusssies


Puuuusssiiiieeesss
Puuusssiiiiiieeeess!!!1!!!1!!1



Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk 2So, what would your score prediction be for a game between said pussies and NDSU?

[NDSUstudent]

GT just signed Delaware State for this year. Just sayin

Because Western Carolina bought us out.....

[56BISON73]

Because Western Carolina bought us out.....

Yep forgot about that.

[MontBison]

Why hasn't anyone asked why they didnt buy out SFA instead?

[gumby013]

GT just signed Delaware State for this year. Just sayin

Yes, because Western Carolina bought us out late as well...although they gave a bit earlier of a heads up.

An AD has two basic functions.

1. Lay out a plan of action.
2. Execute that plan or its contingencies.

The MSU AD failed to even do part 1. He's winging it.

[MNLonghorn10]

So, what would your score prediction be for a game between said pussies and NDSU?

Id have to analyze game film first.

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[KilldeerBison]

So, what would your score prediction be for a game between said pussies and NDSU?
QB Breakdown
B. Jensen - 3 TD's.
D. MaGee - 1 seperated shoulder, 1 sprained ankle, 1 concussion.

[aces1180]

Why hasn't anyone asked why they didnt buy out SFA instead?

Because they HAVE to keep playing games in their recruiting area!

[tony]

Don't see why you guys don't like the Bobcat AD. On the radio, he came across as a completely likeable condescending prick as condescending pricks go... ironically, he also came across as dickless, so maybe I should amend the description to "condescending dickstump." :)

[Walkon79]

Instead of waiting until the last minute to do what he had to do in order to play six home games, your AD should have bought the game out months ago. It seems pretty obvious that is what needed to happen.

With a 12 game schedule and four years to plan there is no reason this game should have gotten bought out in the first place and I'll say again there is no reason why it had to happen this late. It was purely your AD's incompetence that this had to play out in the manner that it did.

Like I said I'm glad we have Gene Taylor and not your AD.

The only thing I really disagree with is the 4 year comment. The added BSC schools and block schedule kinda switched everything up in the last 24 months. I get that the timing really sucked.

[Tatanka]

The only thing I really disagree with is the 4 year comment. The added BSC schools and block schedule kinda switched everything up in the last 24 months. I get that the timing really sucked.I'm glad I don't have to try to defend your position, or your AD's actions.

[Walkon79]

Why hasn't anyone asked why they didnt buy out SFA instead?

I will next week, but my guess is a higher buyout and a date that didn't fit into SMU's plan.

[TAILG8R]

I will next week, but my guess is a higher buyout and a date that didn't fit into SMU's plan.

My guess is that they are an easy W.

[KilldeerBison]

The only thing I really disagree with is the 4 year comment. The added BSC schools and block schedule kinda switched everything up in the last 24 months. I get that the timing really sucked.

So, when do you think you would actually play a game in Fargo? (This is a rhetorical question) And believe me, you have no idea how much this sucks, may the bird of paradise fly up your nose!

[MontBison]

I will next week, but my guess is a higher buyout and a date that didn't fit into SMU's plan.

I'm sure both sides could have made some adjustments to their schedule. I'm starting to sense that they in fact are trying to dodge us.

[TAILG8R]

I'm sure both sides could have made some adjustments to their schedule. I'm starting to sense that they in fact are trying to dodge us.

Well that can only be put off for so long. IF they make playoffs and IF they can win a game or two hopefully we will be there to remind them why the were scared to play in the first place.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Don't see why you guys don't like the Bobcat AD. On the radio, he came across as a completely likeable condescending prick as condescending pricks go... ironically, he also came across as dickless, so maybe I should amend the description to "condescending dickstump." :)

Note to self......."dickstump"......added to vocabulary as a new insult! ;)

[Walkon79]

So, when do you think you would actually play a game in Fargo? (This is a rhetorical question) And believe me, you have no idea how much this sucks, may the bird of paradise fly up your nose!

So I get no props for coming here like a man and taking this beating?

I seriously hope we play a non-con in Fargo in the near future, but it sounds like the relationship between our AD's will take some time to mend, if ever.

[BadlandsBison]

That AD is a tool shed. He reinforced my preconceived notion that the Montana schools believe that FCS football somehow orbits them.

I'd be happy to host these pussies in the playoffs next season. Probably a 2nd round game after they miss out on a seed like 2 seasons ago.

I'd also be happy to live up to NDSU's original half of the bargain and play them in Bozeman in the regular season. Bison nation can party out Bozeman again and annoy the countless hippies and eastern European hotel employees.

Ask Georgia Southern, you can't run away forever. Won't be one bit surprised if teh griz buy the game next year, too, because of the fcs orbit theory

[NDSUstudent]

Walkon I do respect you for coming over here, not sure any other MSU fans has had it in them to do the same.

[SamsRams]

Yes listening to the MSU AD made me sick to my stomach. But it also made me realize he is in no way the one to blame for this. The people who are to blame are their boosters. When Western Carolina backed out of the game with NDSU this year Gene had to turn to NDSU boosters to raise money to bring in Delaware State. So if Montana St wanted 6 home games by bringing in Mesa and Monmouth all they had to do was raise the money from the boosters (around 250K) and then they keep the NDSU game. It is clear Montana St boosters are the ones who are scared to play NDSU and most likely are on food stamps.
Dont blame the messenger, blame their piss poor fan base!

[tony]

Yes listening to the MSU AD made me sick to my stomach. But it also made me realize he is in no way the one to blame for this. The people who are to blame are their boosters. When Western Carolina backed out of the game with NDSU this year Gene had to turn to NDSU boosters to raise money to bring in Delaware State. So if Montana St wanted 6 home games by bringing in Mesa and Monmouth all they had to do was raise the money from the boosters (around 250K) and then they keep the NDSU game. It is clear Montana St boosters are the ones who are scared to play NDSU and most likely are on food stamps.
Dont blame the messenger, blame their piss poor fan base!

Meh. Life is too short to hold a grudge against Bobcat fans... rather have a beer with them. Easier to go after the AD.

[Walkon79]

Dont blame the messenger, blame their piss poor fan base!

Stretch much?

[NDSUstudent]

I don't think it is the fans job to bail out the AD for the mess he created.

[SamsRams]

What mess did the AD create? He asked the boosters for money to get them 5 home games and the boosters said no. The only other way to get it done was to get a payday from an FBS school. its easy to say as a fanbase "I want x amount of home games" but if you are not willing to pony up the money for it you are the ones to blame.

[MNLonghorn10]

GT should call em up, tell them they can schedule NDSU there, all of the non season tickets seats are alloted to NDSU. No walk up. We'll take care of the rest, including the result on the field.

There. You get your precious 5th "home" game.

[BisonNation11]

So I get no props for coming here like a man and taking this beating?

I seriously hope we play a non-con in Fargo in the near future, but it sounds like the relationship between our AD's will take some time to mend, if ever.

Your "hope" will come true in the playoffs. Just glad you can't buy your way out of that one. And there is no relationship between the AD's. Yours cut that cord. I just listened to that interview and I've never heard so much mumble jumble back pedaling in all of my life. If he didn't graduate from Mickey Mouse U, I don't know a college dumb enough to accept him. Wait a minute...

[westnodak93bison]

Yes listening to the MSU AD made me sick to my stomach. But it also made me realize he is in no way the one to blame for this. The people who are to blame are their boosters. When Western Carolina backed out of the game with NDSU this year Gene had to turn to NDSU boosters to raise money to bring in Delaware State. So if Montana St wanted 6 home games by bringing in Mesa and Monmouth all they had to do was raise the money from the boosters (around 250K) and then they keep the NDSU game. It is clear Montana St boosters are the ones who are scared to play NDSU and most likely are on food stamps.
Dont blame the messenger, blame their piss poor fan base!

For whatever it is worth, the economy in Western MT is tough. Whole different beast than ND.

[NDSUstudent]

It is his fault he only had four home games scheduled for next year in October, he put himself in that mess. He agreed to travel to both NDSU and SFA before getting a single home commitment with an FCS school.

I don't think schools typically ask booster groups to fund their scheduling. Usually the gate money you expect to get from your home games or guarantee games provide that.

[NDSU '96]

What mess did the AD create? He asked the boosters for money to get them 5 home games and the boosters said no. The only other way to get it done was to get a payday from an FBS school. its easy to say as a fanbase "I want x amount of home games" but if you are not willing to pony up the money for it you are the ones to blame.Did I miss something? Where was it reported the MSU AD went to the boosters and they said no?

[tony]

Did I miss something? Where was it reported the MSU AD went to the boosters and they said no?

Well, now I'm ticked at Gene because he rarely asks for my input on stuff.

[SamsRams]

I don't think schools typically ask booster groups to fund their scheduling. Usually the gate money you expect to get from your home games or guarantee games provide that.

so you are saying they cant generate 250K in 5 home games. Well that makes their fanbase even more piss poor.

[NDSUstudent]

so you are saying they cant generate 250K in 5 home games. Well that makes their fanbase even more piss poor.

They should be generating $250-400k per home game. Maybe their booster group isn't raising enough money, maybe their stadium expansion has left them strapped for cash. I don't know.

[perthbison]

But if you are talking a schedule to make the playoffs this could be a reason.This was in the back of my mind as well. If I was a bobcat player, fan, or coach, I'd be insulted that their bosses think this asshat move is necessary to get in the playoffs.

[Walkon79]

They should be generating $250-400k per home game. Maybe their booster group isn't raising enough money, maybe their stadium expansion has left them strapped for cash. I don't know.

FWIW. The Bobcat Club raises money only for scholarships. Quarterback Club covers some of the coach's pay and incidentals. Other than stadium improvement / capital campaigns, these are the only contributions from boosters. Not sure anyone has ever asked us to fund a schedule or to help with guarantees. Does that happen in Fargo. Not trying to be a smartass.

[Hammersmith]

FWIW. The Bobcat Club raises money only for scholarships. Quarterback Club covers some of the coach's pay and incidentals. Other than stadium improvement / capital campaigns, these are the only contributions from boosters. Not sure anyone has ever asked us to fund a schedule or to help with guarantees. Does that happen in Fargo. Not trying to be a smartass.

If it were to happen, and I don't think it does, it wouldn't technically go through Team Makers(our booster organization). It's more like the athletic dept would use the information from Team Makers and our overall booster group(NDSU Development Foundation) to make some phone calls to a very specific group of donors. Team Makers the organization is just like your group in that it only raises money for scholarships.

[SamsRams]

If it were to happen, and I don't think it does, it wouldn't technically go through Team Makers(our booster organization). It's more like the athletic dept would use the information from Team Makers and our overall booster group(NDSU Development Foundation) to make some phone calls to a very specific group of donors. Team Makers the organization is just like your group in that it only raises money for scholarships.

Then I stand corrected. I thought boosters had to pay the money to bring teams in. I wish we could get a definitive answer but if Hammersmith says that is not the way it is done then I will agree with him. I thought I remember talking with a top booster and he mentioned he was asked to donate money to help bring PV A&M in last year. Maybe I didnt understand him correctly

[Hammersmith]

Then I stand corrected. I thought boosters had to pay the money to bring teams in. I wish we could get a definitive answer but if Hammersmith says that is not the way it is done then I will agree with him. I thought I remember talking with a top booster and he mentioned he was asked to donate money to help bring PV A&M in last year. Maybe I didnt understand him correctly
Well, I don't have any inside information, so I can't be sure. I am fairly sure that a sellout nets at least $300k, so we shouldn't need to be asking for money to pay for any guarantee smaller than that. OTOH, I guess I could see the usefulness in asking a particular type of donor for money in that way. It's not like the department truly needs the money for that purpose, but it's something that a certain type of donor would be willing to donate for. So that donor is asked to donate money to pay for the game, then the revenue from the gate can be used for something other than paying the guarantee back.

In a way, it's a lot like the concept of Team Makers. Many donors like the idea of paying for scholarships, but wouldn't be nearly as enthused about paying for uniforms or spare basketballs, or extra ace bandages. But that other stuff still needs to be paid for. So Team Makers raises money for a big chunk of the scholarships which frees up other athletic department funds for the non-sexy stuff. In short, know your audience.

Just a random thought, with no inside info to back it up.

[roadwarrior]

Then I stand corrected. I thought boosters had to pay the money to bring teams in. I wish we could get a definitive answer but if Hammersmith says that is not the way it is done then I will agree with him. I thought I remember talking with a top booster and he mentioned he was asked to donate money to help bring PV A&M in last year. Maybe I didnt understand him correctly

I have never heard of anything like this happening at NDSU.

[td577]

I didn't listen to the broadcast, but from the description, it sounds like this guy graduated at the top of the class from the Roger Thomas School of Ass-Hattery.

Does that school have an open date that will work for us?


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[NDSU1980]

Does that school have an open date that will work for us?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI think it's an on line branch of und.

[SamsRams]

I have never heard of anything like this happening at NDSU.

now I know I was 100% inaccurate....my bad. I still wanna blame their fanbase though

[WYOBISONMAN]

I think it's an on line branch of und.

That means those students are counted in their official enrollment figures........:rofl:

[Hansel]

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sports/bobcats/football/article_16904874-7af7-11e2-8fbc-001a4bcf887a.html

article in Boz Angeles paper.

[Walkon79]

Well, I don't have any inside information, so I can't be sure. I am fairly sure that a sellout nets at least $300k, so we shouldn't need to be asking for money to pay for any guarantee smaller than that. OTOH, I guess I could see the usefulness in asking a particular type of donor for money in that way. It's not like the department truly needs the money for that purpose, but it's something that a certain type of donor would be willing to donate for. So that donor is asked to donate money to pay for the game, then the revenue from the gate can be used for something other than paying the guarantee back.

In a way, it's a lot like the concept of Team Makers. Many donors like the idea of paying for scholarships, but wouldn't be nearly as enthused about paying for uniforms or spare basketballs, or extra ace bandages. But that other stuff still needs to be paid for. So Team Makers raises money for a big chunk of the scholarships which frees up other athletic department funds for the non-sexy stuff. In short, know your audience.

Just a random thought, with no inside info to back it up.

In my experience that's exactly how it works. The more money bobcat Club raises for scholarships, the less needs to be used out of the general athletic fund. We also have QBC, which is a branch of the Bobcat Club, but that money goes specifically to the needs of the coaching staff, recruiting, and other incidentals.

[Walkon79]

Sorry SAMSRAMS, can't blame the boosters or fans for this one in any way. :)

[aces1180]

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sports/bobcats/football/article_16904874-7af7-11e2-8fbc-001a4bcf887a.html

article in Boz Angeles paper.

So which is it, 10 or 14 days? He doesn't remember when he called GT? What a clown.

[tcbison]

In my experience that's exactly how it works. The more money bobcat Club raises for scholarships, the less needs to be used out of the general athletic fund. We also have QBC, which is a branch of the Bobcat Club, but that money goes specifically to the needs of the coaching staff, recruiting, and other incidentals.

I think you should ask your AD Fields if he had intentions to ever return a game to NDSU. After receiving a home game 8 years ago and not being able to fulfill a return game I would contend that it was never his intentions to go to Fargo at all. Basically, he just waited until the buyout was low enough to find a FBS game and pull the trigger on this transaction. Funny how your AD calls Gene Taylor his friend. Is this how you treat a friend? I realize the whole contract and buyout scenario but pulling this shit so late in the game is what is wrong. I know he is doing what is best for MSU but he just cost NDSU a ton of money and the fans don't get to see a major game that I am sure would have been televised.

[Trumpster]

Basically, he just waited until the buyout was low enough to find a FBS game and pull the trigger on this transaction.

You know that the inital buyout was $10,000 right? :facepalm:

[Bison Dan]

You know that the inital buyout was $10,000 right? :facepalm:You do realize that at the time that was signed 2003 - $10,000.00 was the standard and buyouts were not common at all.

[aces1180]

You do realize that at the time that was signed 2003 - $10,000.00 was the standard and buyouts were not common at all.

^This...As was $100K in 2009.

[Tatanka]

Looks like the Bozo paper gets their mathematicians* from the same factory as our fish wrap:

Montana State completed a deal with the FBS’ Southern Methodist University, netting them $300,00.

$300.00 isn't much money, assuming Bozeman uses European notation for their decimal mark.

* - or editors, your choice.

[TAILG8R]

Looks like the Bozo paper gets their mathematicians* from the same factory as our fish wrap:


* - or editors, your choice.

They were using the term netting as an action, the act of grabbing with a net. "I netted that butterfly" said Fields, Athletic Director at MSU.

[Walkon79]

I think you should ask your AD Fields if he had intentions to ever return a game to NDSU. After receiving a home game 8 years ago and not being able to fulfill a return game I would contend that it was never his intentions to go to Fargo at all. Basically, he just waited until the buyout was low enough to find a FBS game and pull the trigger on this transaction. Funny how your AD calls Gene Taylor his friend. Is this how you treat a friend? I realize the whole contract and buyout scenario but pulling this shit so late in the game is what is wrong. I know he is doing what is best for MSU but he just cost NDSU a ton of money and the fans don't get to see a major game that I am sure would have been televised.

Your comments are relevent to the quoted post, how?

[Bison 4 Life]

Your comments are relevent to the quoted post, how?

Well, you're the one wading into the Bison message board and those comments are quite appropriate.

[tcbison]

Your comments are relevent to the quoted post, how?

They are more directed as a question to you instead of the quoted post. Sorry about that part but I think they are relevant questions to ask.

[BlueBisonRock]

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sports/bobcats/football/article_16904874-7af7-11e2-8fbc-001a4bcf887a.html

article in Boz Angeles paper.

Interesting quote from the article:


Gene is not happy, and I don’t blame him; if I were in his shoes, I wouldn’t be happy, either. But this is a business transaction.”

Fields fails to realize that integrity is key to any business transaction and plays the Don Corleone card to describe his view of business transactions.

[perthbison]

Looks like the Bozo paper gets their mathematicians* from the same factory as our fish wrap:


$300.00 isn't much money, assuming Bozeman uses European notation for their decimal mark.

* - or editors, your choice.I doubt they are netting 300 Grand. there must be expenses, probably more than comming to ndsu. Also, how many fewer of their fans will make the trip to smu as compared to ndsu.

[BisonTeacher]

Also, how many fewer of their fans will make the trip to smu as compared to ndsu.

I don't know about that. Isnt SMU near Dallas? Maybe now that they've chickened out on NDSU, they figure this is the closest they will get to Frisco. :biggrin:

[Mayville Bison]

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/sports/bobcats/football/article_16904874-7af7-11e2-8fbc-001a4bcf887a.html

article in Boz Angeles paper.

It's nice to see that it's Bobcat fans and supporters that have posted the only comments this far. While it's only a matter of time until some Bison fans post there, this helps confirm their fan base also wanted to see the game and that the school is trying to protect a shot at a seed come playoff time.

[Bison 4 Life]

I don't know about that. Isnt SMU near Dallas? Maybe now that they've chickened out on NDSU, they figure this is the closest they will get to Frisco. :biggrin:


Sure is. drove by it when I was sightseeing on Friday afternoon.

[BisonTeacher]

Sure is. drove by it when I was sightseeing on Friday afternoon.

It was a rhetorical question. But glad to know its still there.

[THEsocalledfan]

Looks like the Bozo paper gets their mathematicians* from the same factory as our fish wrap:


$300.00 isn't much money, assuming Bozeman uses European notation for their decimal mark.

* - or editors, your choice.

My goodness.....just read that article. What the heck happened to asking tough questions? I thought that was even worse than the typos.

[perthbison]

My goodness.....just read that article. What the heck happened to asking tough questions? I thought that was even worse than the typos.:confused:does forum communications own papers over there too?:confused:

[Answer Guy]

$300.00 isn't much money, assuming Bozeman uses European notation for their decimal mark.

It's Big Sky math. You need to get the multiplier from Tony.


I'm just making sh*t up today, answerguy. :)

Or am I? Maybe I applied the No Defense In The Big Sky Multiplier of .558 or something to UND's conference score to show what they'd score in the average conference. If so, I was being generous because the Big Sky to MVFC conversion mulitplier is .2.

[Tatanka]

It's Big Sky math. You need to get the multiplier from Tony.Indeed. My mistake.

[Walkon79]

They are more directed as a question to you instead of the quoted post. Sorry about that part but I think they are relevant questions to ask.

I'll paraphrase the two questions actually asked:

- Did Peter ever intend to come to Fargo in the first place? Anyone that thinks otherwise just isn't seeing this clearly.

- Is this how you treat a friend? Absolutely not!! But I have many casual and some life-long friends who are also business associates, and if I felt it was necessary to make a business decision that may negatively impact a friendship, I would make that call depending on the situation. Bottom line is Family and Job often times trump friendship in everyday life.

Would you not agree?

[TransAmBison]

I'll paraphrase the two questions actually asked:

- Did Peter ever intend to come to Fargo in the first place? Anyone that thinks otherwise just isn't seeing this clearly.

- Is this how you treat a friend? Absolutely not!! But I have many casual and some life-long friends who are also business associates, and if I felt it was necessary to make a business decision that may negatively impact a friendship, I would make that call depending on the situation. Bottom line is Family and Job often times trump friendship in everyday life.

Would you not agree?
Very narrow-minded viewpoint. You see it is affecting the relationship between NDSU and MSU...which it does, but you fail to take into account the FCS community at large. MSU has tarnished its image...and people will take notice.

This is a turd. Don't try to polish it.

[Bison 4 Life]

Very narrow-minded viewpoint. You see it is affecting the relationship between NDSU and MSU...which it does, but you fail to take into account the FCS community at large. MSU has tarnished its image...and people will take notice.

This is a turd. Don't try to polish it.

This.

People like to talk about how NDSU is out in the middle of nowhere but at least they are at the top of the heap. Bozeman is REALLY out in the middle of nowhere and with a bad reputation, home games against non DII teams are going to be hard to come by without a lot of cash.

[Tatanka]

This.

People like to talk about how NDSU is out in the middle of nowhere but at least they are at the top of the heap. Bozeman is REALLY out in the middle of nowhere and with a bad reputation, home games against non DII teams are going to be hard to come by without a lot of cash.This. You think Montana's well-documented douchebaggery (buying out of two 2 for 1s after taking the two home games in both cases) isn't a key factor in any conversation regarding scheduling? You think that doesn't have anything to do with the price exponentially increasing for buyouts?

[NorthernBison]

I'll paraphrase the two questions actually asked:

- Did Peter ever intend to come to Fargo in the first place? Anyone that thinks otherwise just isn't seeing this clearly.

- Is this how you treat a friend? Absolutely not!! But I have many casual and some life-long friends who are also business associates, and if I felt it was necessary to make a business decision that may negatively impact a friendship, I would make that call depending on the situation. Bottom line is Family and Job often times trump friendship in everyday life.

Would you not agree?

Let's keep this conversation to the "Business Decison" that was made. Gene and "??????" are "Business Associates". There is a HUGE difference between what you can do legally as part of a contract and what is Ethical (or the RIGHT thing to do). The FACT that Gene (a highly experienced AD) was shocked by the late date that the buyout was communicated is an indication of what a douche move it was (regardless of any spin from Bozeman). He's been bought out before.

Gene's words to the Media were pretty strong. I'm willing to bet his true feelings are significantly stronger. I'm also guessing that he won't be shy about "sharing" with his colleagues how he really feels. It's not such a large group. I'm guessing they talk.

ANY FCS AD out there should now be on notice if you are dealing with the people in Bozeman. Don't trust them. It's really not that hard to figure out.

[unbison]

The ad in Bozeman;) the people in Bozeman kick ass

[56BISON73]

Interesting quote from the article:



Fields fails to realize that integrity is key to any business transaction and plays the Don Corleone card to describe his view of business transactions.

You also dont screw people over regardless if its business or not. As you stated its all about integrity.

[EndZoneQB]

Let's keep this conversation to the "Business Decison" that was made. Gene and "??????" are "Business Associates". There is a HUGE difference between what you can do legally as part of a contract and what is Ethical (or the RIGHT thing to do). The FACT that Gene (a highly experienced AD) was shocked by the late date that the buyout was communicated is an indication of what a douche move it was (regardless of any spin from Bozeman). He's been bought out before.

Gene's words to the Media were pretty strong. I'm willing to bet his true feelings are significantly stronger. I'm also guessing that he won't be shy about "sharing" with his colleagues how he really feels. It's not such a large group. I'm guessing they talk.

ANY FCS AD out there should now be on notice if you are dealing with the people in Bozeman. Don't trust them. It's really not that hard to figure out.

There is good news out of all of this tho. Southern Bison is now available to call other schools to help find MSU some good home and home series...

[MontBison]

Why hasn't this been commented on. Dom said in the bison media blog, "Plus, I was told NDSU considered giving MSU a cash incentive to keep the game". If that's the case how much was it and it seems to me that it points to maybe MSU backing out because they didnt want the ass beating?

[tony]

Why hasn't this been commented on. Dom said in the bison media blog, "Plus, I was told NDSU considered giving MSU a cash incentive to keep the game". If that's the case how much was it and it seems to me that it points to maybe MSU backing out because they didnt want the ass beating?

It sounds from that like NDSU considered offering a cash incentive but never did.

[NDSUstudent]

GT did say he came back to MSU with some kind of incentive, they mulled it over and then declined. He talked about it in one of the radio interviews that he had.

[MontBison]

It sounds from that like NDSU considered offering a cash incentive but never did.

But why wouldn't have they offered them money if NDSU knew it would cost them at least $200,000 to schedule a new team. NDSU gets the home game MSU looks like the losers they are and has the money to schedule their home game...