Frisco gets 3 more years

[roadwarrior]

The NCAA extended the championship game location 3 more years.

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/383880/group/homepage/

[tcbison]

The NCAA extended the championship game location 3 more years.

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/383880/group/homepage/

Are they also going to expand the stadium?

[EndZoneQB]

I'm not trying to wear my green colored glasses here...but I really think Frisco has to thank NDSU and SHSU for being there last year. The EWU/Delaware game was a flop...but we filled the stadium last year and our demand sold a ton of tickets this year.

Either way, at least we don't have to rename the bus for awhile now! :)

[WYOBISONMAN]

I had a BLAST last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CarringtonBison]

when can we get tickets?

[Bison 4 Life]

I for one am glad. I'm moving to Kansas next year so the drive will be a LOT better.

I was thinking with my luck it would end up back in Chatty.

[Bison53]

That sucks! I liked Frisco but the best place would be Las Vegas. Their stadium is 35000.
And everybody across the country can get cheap flights to Vegas and plenty of rooms.

[loudsilverado]

Dumb, that stadium is too small.

[td577]

I would have liked to see a new venue simply because waiting for frisco to grow up might take a while. Fargo has better infrastructure in place to support this event over frisco.

I am pretty sure there weren't too many other bids out there so frisco it is. Vegas would be cool but probably this is too small of an event for them to put a whole lot of effort into it plus the NCAA hates anything to do with sin city. The good thing about frisco is its own little world there. There really isn't any viable alternatives out there. A 60k stadium would be insanely too large and other than Vegas, who out there has a 35k stadium that will not be sold out over half the time.




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[1998braves64]

I would have liked to see a new venue simply because waiting for frisco to grow up might take a while. Fargo has better infrastructure in place to support this event over frisco.

Not if you're considering a major airport within 35 mins they do not. Getting in and out of FC Stadium was way easier than Fargodome, and they're both similar sized stadiums. Not sure where you're getting that Frisco infrastructure problem? It was easily accessible from any direction really. We stayed in North Dallas and it only took us 30 mins to get there (including parking) and didn't take us maybe 35-40 (heck it took me that long just to leave the Fargodome parking lot last friday night) mins to leave after the game and we took a round about way just to see part of town rather than flying by on the freeway. The area up by the stadium is new (so alot of development opportunity around the stadium and from sounds of it has changed since last year. Plano has a lot to do also and is closer than North Dallas.

[Hammerhead]

Last year we didn't fly in until late Friday night so we stayed at a hotel near DFW. It took longer to detour around the road construction near the hotel than it did to buzz up the tollway to Frisco. Given that most teams are in the eastern 1/3 of the country, I doubt the game will ever move farther west.

[SDbison]

I had a BLAST last year!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are you going to be this year? No Wyo sightings at at any games this year so far..........

[BigBison]

I like Frisco and DFW area for this game. Just wish the stadium was bigger.

[onbison09]

Well I was at the first game as well and in a 35,000 seat stadium that would've been a disaster. Although they did have like a weeks notice. I'm sure the NCAA likes the idea of high demand and low supply

[WYOBISONMAN]

Where are you going to be this year? No Wyo sightings at at any games this year so far..........

Trying to line up a carpool to Frisco!

[IndyBison]

I would have liked to see a new venue simply because waiting for frisco to grow up might take a while. Fargo has better infrastructure in place to support this event over frisco.

I am pretty sure there weren't too many other bids out there so frisco it is. Vegas would be cool but probably this is too small of an event for them to put a whole lot of effort into it plus the NCAA hates anything to do with sin city. The good thing about frisco is its own little world there. There really isn't any viable alternatives out there. A 60k stadium would be insanely too large and other than Vegas, who out there has a 35k stadium that will not be sold out over half the time.

How does Fargo have better infrastructure than Frisco? You have a major airport within 30 minutes of the stadium. Plenty of hotel options through out the region. Lots of great restaurants and bars. Good traffic flow in and out of the stadium. Frisco is a very new and modern suburb. The chances of decent weather are significantly better. I thought it was a great location last year and it doesn't surprise me they resubmitted. The greater metroplex may be somewhat indifferent to the game being there but the Frisco/Plano people love it. You get the benefit of being supported well by the immediate community yet being located in a major metropolitan area that has several other reasons to visit. Compare it to the other championship locations:

NAIA - Rome, Georgia
D3 - Salem, Virginia
D2 - Florence, Alabama

They are also very well supported by their local communities but they are much more rural and the surrounding area doesn't have as much to offer. They must be great hosts though because they've all been doing it for a long time.

[56BISON73]

Seriously who really wants to Travel to Fargo in January? Who wants to tailgate in Jan? :rofl:
What major points of interest would fans want to go see? On a normal night in Fargo there are waiting lines to eat. What would they do with an additional 10,000 from out of town?
The Frisco DFW area has venues that can handle large groups. Lots to do if you want. Plus great restaurants.

[unbison]

People if frisco had a 35000 seat stadium it would not be full even with one team coming from texas......

[IzzyFlexion]

I was extremely impressed with the Frisco/Plano/Allen area last year.
The highways are new, wide, and easy to navigate. There are shitloads of places to eat and stay. The weather given that it was January was very nice, and I believe that stadium is perfect for this game.

[SDbison]

Trying to line up a carpool to Frisco! Make sure the woman in your avatar is in your carpool to Frisco! :)

[BadlandsBison]

I wanted Las Vegas. A boy can dream

[heckler]

I wanted Las Vegas. A boy can dream

I was hoping!

[Kujava23]

Maybe can switch the name of field from PIZZA HUT PARK to Dakotah Field II

[missingnumber7]

NCAA will never have a championship in Vegas for 1 reason and 1 reason alone...gambling.

[BadlandsBison]

NCAA will never have a championship in Vegas for 1 reason and 1 reason alone...gambling.

That would require them to give more of a sh** about the fcs. Besides, they already have a bowl game there, and I'm fairly certain a basketball tourney as well(?)

I'm not a gambler so I don't really care about that stuff, but does the ncaa really shy away from Vegas because of betting?

[GRAFTONBISON]

That would require them to give more of a sh** about the fcs. Besides, they already have a bowl game there, and I'm fairly certain a basketball tourney as well(?)

I'm not a gambler so I don't really care about that stuff, but does the ncaa really shy away from Vegas because of betting?

Bowl games and conference tourneys are not sponsored, ie. paid for, by the NCAA.

[BadlandsBison]

Bowl games and conference tourneys are not sponsored, ie. paid for, by the NCAA.

Yeah, but the schools pay for the ncaa. Teams still have to be bowl eligible in the eyes of the ncaa to go to any bowl game, even one in Las Vegas. I guess my point is any "bowl" game is more important than the fcs championship to the ncaa, at least that is how it seems to me (probably because of espn money)

So if there is a Vegas bowl game, fcs championship shouldn't be a problem. Whew! Just realized this isn't that important :) We're goin' to Frisco!

[SafeTeeJ]

Sweet. Pick up a couple new tackle boxes in the next few years!

[56BISON73]

That would require them to give more of a sh** about the fcs. Besides, they already have a bowl game there, and I'm fairly certain a basketball tourney as well(?)

I'm not a gambler so I don't really care about that stuff, but does the ncaa really shy away from Vegas because of betting?


Brief calls N.J. law 'blatant violation'
Updated: December 7, 2012, 10:11 PM ET
Associated Press

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NEWARK, N.J. -- NBA commissioner David Stern scolded New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and said New Jersey "has no idea what it's doing" by seeking to allow sports betting in the state in a deposition published Friday in the ongoing legal battle between the governor, the four major professional sports leagues and the NCAA.

Stern and the heads of Major League Baseball, the NFL, the NHL and the NCAA were questioned recently by lawyers representing the state as part of the leagues' lawsuit seeking to stop New Jersey from instituting sports gambling.

"The one thing I'm certain of is New Jersey has no idea what it's doing and doesn't care because all it's interested in is making a buck or two, and they don't care that it's at our potential loss," Stern said when asked how the advent of sports betting in New Jersey would harm the NBA.

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The one thing I'm certain of is New Jersey has no idea what it's doing and doesn't care because all it's interested in is making a buck or two, and they don't care that it's at our potential loss.
” -- NBA commissioner David Stern, when asked how the advent of sports betting in New Jersey would harm the NBA

"And wholly apart from the fact that a governor, who's a former U.S. Attorney, has chosen to attack a federal law which causes me pause for completely different reasons since I've at times sworn to similar oaths about upholding the law of the United States," Stern continued.

MLB commissioner Bud Selig said in his deposition he was "appalled" that New Jersey would look to sports gambling as a fiscal solution.

"I know states need money. I really mean that," he said. "I understand all the problems. Federal government needs money, going over a cliff, cities need money. Chris Christie needs money. But gambling is so ... the threat of gambling and to create more threat is to me -- I'm stunned. I know that people need sources of revenue, but you can't -- this is corruption in my opinion.

"I have to say to you I'm appalled. I'm really appalled."

A spokesman for Christie didn't immediately return a message seeking comment Friday.

The leagues and the NCAA sued Christie in August after he vowed to defy a federal ban on sports wagering. The Legislature enacted a sports betting law in January, limiting bets to the Atlantic City casinos and the state's horse racing tracks. The state plans to license sports betting as soon as January, and in October published regulations governing licenses.

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Federal government needs money, going over a cliff, cities need money. Chris Christie needs money. But gambling is so ... the threat of gambling and to create more threat is to me -- I'm stunned. I know that people need sources of revenue, but you can't -- this is corruption in my opinion.
” -- MLB commissioner Bud Selig

A judge is expected to rule this month on the leagues' motion for an injunction to stop the law from taking effect.

In his deposition, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell was asked about holding games in England and Canada, countries with legalized sports gambling. The leagues contend allowing New Jersey to sanction sports gambling would damage their integrity.

"Well, we're playing in their country, we're coming to them," Goodell responded. "And we're only there for a short period of time; we're there for two or three days. It's not what we choose, it's not what we believe is in the best interests of sports, but we don't dictate the rules or the laws."

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said the fact that New Jersey's law exempts the state's colleges and any college games played in the state shows that lawmakers recognize gambling "isn't good for our game." He sounded confident when asked if the NHL had contemplated any changes to its policies should New Jersey's law stand.

"Not to sound flip on this point but it's inconceivable to me how we could lose this lawsuit, so we haven't been doing that," he said.

New Jersey's move is seen by supporters as a way to bring new revenue to the struggling casino and racing industries and to reclaim a portion of the billions of untaxed dollars flowing to organized crime or offshore illegal gambling operations.

But in its court filing Friday opposing the state's motion to dismiss the lawsuit, the leagues and the NCAA called Christie's efforts a "blatant violation of federal law" and his constitutional challenges to the federal law "specious."

The 20-year-old federal law at the heart of the dispute, the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, prohibited states from authorizing sports gambling, but exempted Nevada and three other states that already had some form of legalized sports betting -- Delaware, Oregon and Montana.

New Jersey claims the law usurps the authority of state legislatures and discriminates by "grandfathering" in some states. The leagues countered Friday that Congress has the power to prevent states from enacting laws that conflict with federal policy, and that the Constitution's commerce clause doesn't require uniformity in its application to different states.

The NCAA has already announced it will relocate several championship events scheduled to be held in New Jersey next year.

[td577]

I don't want the game in Fargo. That wasn't my point. My point being frisco has a ways to go. We got down there last year and half the town was shut down at ten o'clock. The pep rally was a disaster, so I am glad they moved it. I thought available hotels were spread out all over the place.

It was frisco had a game, not hosting a national championship. If a city like Fargo (which again I am not saying have it here) hosted this event, the area would have the feel of hosting a national championship. Everyone in the F/M area would know why people were here. There were FC Dallas security that had no clue what was going on.

Frisco is learning and still building. I expect a serious improvement over time and the area will embrace its role as a fcs Mecca. Closer activities, a larger community involvement, and tailgate town will become all of frisco for three to four days.

I actually like the stadium. Not a bad seat in the house and while it could be a little larger, it ain't bad. On the other hand, I don't know of anywhere else that could embrace fcs football for what it is and providing an experience of hosting a national championship. For example, the NCAA track and field championships are held in a community that worships that event. Where could the fcs capture that environment?

The final four in Bb is an event. The nc game in fbs is an event. The Super Bowl is an event. The fcs championship is a game. What makes an event an event is the community involvement supporting that activity. Frisco does not have the moxie yet to present an event. Of course, everything having to do with bison football is an event because we make it so.


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[Bison 4 Life]

I don't want the game in Fargo. That wasn't my point. My point being frisco has a ways to go. We got down there last year and half the town was shut down at ten o'clock. The pep rally was a disaster, so I am glad they moved it. I thought available hotels were spread out all over the place.

It was frisco had a game, not hosting a national championship. If a city like Fargo (which again I am not saying have it here) hosted this event, the area would have the feel of hosting a national championship. Everyone in the F/M area would know why people were here. There were FC Dallas security that had no clue what was going on.

Frisco is learning and still building. I expect a serious improvement over time and the area will embrace its role as a fcs Mecca. Closer activities, a larger community involvement, and tailgate town will become all of frisco for three to four days.

I actually like the stadium. Not a bad seat in the house and while it could be a little larger, it ain't bad. On the other hand, I don't know of anywhere else that could embrace fcs football for what it is and providing an experience of hosting a national championship. For example, the NCAA track and field championships are held in a community that worships that event. Where could the fcs capture that environment?

The final four in Bb is an event. The nc game in fbs is an event. The Super Bowl is an event. The fcs championship is a game. What makes an event an event is the community involvement supporting that activity. Frisco does not have the moxie yet to present an event. Of course, everything having to do with bison football is an event because we make it so.


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There's a reason the whole place is shut down at 10, it's basically one gigantic strip mall. I'm not sure I've ever seen a more vanilla place in my life. It's a McSuburb if ever I saw one.

That being said, it's super easy to get around in and park. For the most part, the game is a good fit.

[SDbison]

If Frisco continues to host this game they need to add 5 to 10 thousand seats and give the place a football stadium feel. The place reeks of soccer.

[SDbison]

And for those doubters 22,000 seats sold out in no time........if more seats were available maybe 1000 more locals attend, 2000 more SHSU fans and 4000 more NDSU fans......possibly a total of 29,000 this year if the stadium were 30,000 capacity. Yeah I know, only a few other combinations of FCS teams could produce an attendance like this.

[Gully]

I love Frisco / Plano...they did a great job hosting and the stadium is pretty nice. It would be fun to see what would happen in terms of attendance if NDSU played in this game againts a team that wasn't so close to Frisco (other than Montana, Appy, GSU, etc.)

That all said, I wonder how many times it would have to sell out before they start looking for a new venue? I totally understand that other than the on-campus games in the past, last year was very unusual.

[IndyBison]

I don't want the game in Fargo. That wasn't my point. My point being frisco has a ways to go. We got down there last year and half the town was shut down at ten o'clock. The pep rally was a disaster, so I am glad they moved it. I thought available hotels were spread out all over the place.

It was frisco had a game, not hosting a national championship. If a city like Fargo (which again I am not saying have it here) hosted this event, the area would have the feel of hosting a national championship. Everyone in the F/M area would know why people were here. There were FC Dallas security that had no clue what was going on.

Frisco is learning and still building. I expect a serious improvement over time and the area will embrace its role as a fcs Mecca. Closer activities, a larger community involvement, and tailgate town will become all of frisco for three to four days.

I actually like the stadium. Not a bad seat in the house and while it could be a little larger, it ain't bad. On the other hand, I don't know of anywhere else that could embrace fcs football for what it is and providing an experience of hosting a national championship. For example, the NCAA track and field championships are held in a community that worships that event. Where could the fcs capture that environment?

The final four in Bb is an event. The nc game in fbs is an event. The Super Bowl is an event. The fcs championship is a game. What makes an event an event is the community involvement supporting that activity. Frisco does not have the moxie yet to present an event. Of course, everything having to do with bison football is an event because we make it so.


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What closed at 10 that normally stays open later in other cities? Bars were open. Drive through restaurants were open. Wal-Mart was open. The mall may have closed but I don't know too many malls open after 10. It was only the second year of the event and the first year had a small crowd with no local interest. I'm pretty sure NDSU and SHSU got their attention last year. Until the game has some history it will take time for it to become an event. The other championships I mentioned treat it as an event. DFW may never treat it as an event but I believe Frisco/Plano will definitely treat it as an event.

[Former Hitman]

I absolutely Loved Frisco, As a former haz-been, it was set up very nice for us. The venue, restuarants, and bars was great.
I heard Vegas had an interest on bidding for future, I was hoping they didnt' get it.
Reasoning, everyone would be scattered throughout Vegas. All NDSU fans would be isolated in their own groups. In Frisco, when we went to places, we kept seeing swarms of NDSU Fans. You wouldn't get that in Vegas.

[DFWfootballfan]

BISON FOR life give us a chance. we will learn from our mistakes. as far as closing down at 10, like the above poster said there are now 5-6 bars around the stadium that are open until 2am, what more do you want?

also you are a 30 minute drive from anything you could possible want. metroplex has 6.5 million people so there are lots of places open past 10, sorry if they arent right next to the stadium

[BisonCountry]

Other than the Marriot in Frisco being a little un-prepared for the sheer numbers of our Herd, I thought it was a great location. Travel to was relatively easy being in a major metro hub, hotel and restaraunt options were plentiful, and almost every person I talked to from waitresses,cops,cab drivers....thanked us and hoped we came back again. I'm sure anyone who traveled to Florence, AL for the DII title days will tell you Frisco is light years ahead of those experiences.

[Herd Mentality]

I'm not sure many places would've let the party spill out into the streets and parking lots like it did in Frisco. Can you imagine what would've happened had the same thing happened in Fargo? (Lots of fines and jail time)

[kab1one]

The Marriott being over run only adds to the legend of Frisco. I think a lot of people dis like I did when it took a half hour to get a ultra. We went to a different bar and started the next legend.

[Bison 4 Life]

BISON FOR life give us a chance. we will learn from our mistakes. as far as closing down at 10, like the above poster said there are now 5-6 bars around the stadium that are open until 2am, what more do you want?

also you are a 30 minute drive from anything you could possible want. metroplex has 6.5 million people so there are lots of places open past 10, sorry if they arent right next to the stadium

Believe me, we had plenty of fun. Tailgating starts early for a noon game anyway

[Bisonfan1]

[QUOTE=Herd Mentality;697896]I'm not sure many places would've let the party spill out into the streets and parking lots like it did in Frisco. Can you imagine what would've happened had the same thing happened in Fargo? (Lots of fines and jail time)[/QUOT

No Doubt you would have been on the radar Herd !! I hear you loud and clear. Frisco nice place, I am still concerned that given the right teams playing could draw alot more people, which makes Vegas 35,000 stadium, cheaper flights, and party venue that much more appealing. More porta johns needed, 20 aint going to cut it !! Get that guy at the sportsbook at LVH and Sams Rams all over this after the 3 years. If room would the Bison faithful be another 5000 added on ??? I think so.

[Walter.H.White]

If Frisco continues to host this game they need to add 5 to 10 thousand seats and give the place a football stadium feel. The place reeks of soccer.

I completely agree. I realize that it is a soccer stadium named FC Dallas Stadium, but damnit, don't they realize the FCS championship is coming once a year!

I got to go shower, I reek of soccer fandom right now.