Current FCS Lines for Saturday 12-1 at 5-Dimes

[Elvis was a Bison]

Current odds on 5-Dimes are as follows:

Sam Houston -13 over Cal Poly
NDSU -7.5 over SDSU
EWU -20 over Wagner
MSU -12 over Stony Brook
Wofford -6 over New Hampshire
Georgia SOuthern -7 over Central Arkansas
ODU -11 over Coastal Carolina
App State -1 over Illinois State

You can follow the live lines here.

http://lines.5dimes.com/livelines/livelines.aspx

[aces1180]

Current odds on 5-Dimes are as follows:

Sam Houston -13 over Cal Poly
NDSU -7.5 over SDSU
EWU -20 over Wagner
MSU -12 over Stony Brook
Wofford -6 over New Hampshire
Georgia SOuthern -7 over Central Arkansas
ODU -11 over Coastal Carolina
App State -1 over Illinois State

You can follow the live lines here.

http://lines.5dimes.com/livelines/livelines.aspx

When did you get into sports gambling? Is there something going on that mom doesn't no about? I can be paid off if needed. ;)

[devin45k]

The only 2 upsets I picked for this round was Cal Poly and Illinois State

[Elvis was a Bison]

It's only gambling if you place a bet. (Kinda like it's only combat if you engage the enemy.) Just looking is considered "recon."
When did you get into sports gambling? Is there something going on that mom doesn't no about? I can be paid off if needed. ;)

[bisonmike2]

I'd take a 7 point victory of SDSU. Sounds good to me.

[bisonaudit]

The price is -120 on all these bets. Expensive!

If you don't think you're at least a field goal smarter than the house, stay home.

[KTF]

I'd take a 7 point victory of SDSU. Sounds good to me.I am good with this too, heck even a 1 point game I am fine with...

[bisonaudit]

I am good with this too, heck even a 1 point game I am fine with...

I'm good w/ that line as well. NDSU -7.5 might be the juiciest of the bunch.

[KTF]

I think we win by more then 7.5 though...

[TAILG8R]

Its 9.5 now

[bisonmike2]

Its 9.5 now

Must be all that Lakes money coming in on the Bison.

[bisonaudit]

Its 9.5 now

A number of the lines have moved 2 points or more. Apparently we're not the only team with degenerate gamblers in the fan base. :)

ODU 3 points (Verlander?)
Cal Poly 2
App. St. 2
Wagner 2
Montana St. 1 (slackers)

Money lines also available now.

[NDSUBowler]

The price is -120 on all these bets. Expensive!

If you don't think you're at least a field goal smarter than the house, stay home.
-120 sucks for all the FCS games, good thing I have a umm...friend...who would take my action (if I were into that sort of thing) at -110, -107 if game is listed at -110.

All of last week's games were at -110...no idea why that is since its been -120 all season.

[bisonaudit]

-120 sucks for all the FCS games, good thing I have a umm...friend...who would take my action (if I were into that sort of thing) at -110, -107 if game is listed at -110.

All of last week's games were at -110...no idea why that is since its been -120 all season.

ODU is now -16 that's 5 points in a day
E. Washington is back to -20

Is it common for what I assume must be low volume games to move around this much? I don't follow the lines very closely but my impression is that a two point move in an NFL line, unless there was a surprise in the injury report or something, is a seismic shift. Meanwhile these games are jumping all over the place.

What plays into the price do you think? Volume of wagers? The book's confidence in their number? Competition? The customer for niche offerings is willing to pay a premium?

[NDSUBowler]

ODU is now -16 that's 5 points in a day
E. Washington is back to -20

Is it common for what I assume must be low volume games to move around this much? I don't follow the lines very closely but my impression is that a two point move in an NFL line, unless there was a surprise in the injury report or something, is a seismic shift. Meanwhile these games are jumping all over the place.

What plays into the price do you think? Volume of wagers? The book's confidence in their number? Competition? The customer for niche offerings is willing to pay a premium?
All depends what side is being bet on. Sportsbooks want balanced bets as much as possible so I'd assume tons of early action on ODU so they bumped up a bunch to try and even it out. I'd guess it wont take TOO much money to sway lines.

[SamsRams]

All depends what side is being bet on. Sportsbooks want balanced bets as much as possible so I'd assume tons of early action on ODU so they bumped up a bunch to try and even it out. I'd guess it wont take TOO much money to sway lines.

very on point, but remember offshores can take bigger chances then sportsbooks. I will be interested when LVH releases their lines

[NDSUBowler]

very on point, but remember offshores can take bigger chances then sportsbooks. I will be interested when LVH releases their lines

When they post them, post them here if you get a chance, I'm curious as well.

[SamsRams]

When they post them, post them here if you get a chance, I'm curious as well.

Why dont you just come up and watch them with me and bet on them with me and then I can teach you how to play poker :)

[NDSUBowler]

Why dont you just come up and watch them with me and bet on them with me and then I can teach you how to play poker :)
Hah, I am really debating it. I have a friend in Vegas that wants me to come up and watch football that day anyways (SEC championship is game he cares about). Just have to figure out if I want to make the 5 hour drive each way for it. I'll talk myself into it in a few days.

[SamsRams]

That game is at the same time

[NDSUBowler]

That game is at the same time
Yeah, I know, works out wherever since he can watch his game and I can still watch NDSU. (Assuming they are shown in same room at sports book...haha)

[SlickVic]

that sam houston game when they had bomar that line moved like 10 points in 2 hours when it was up lol

[westnodak93bison]

Sagarin says NDSU by 12.17

[NDSUBowler]

Lines as of today

NDSU -7
SHSU -13
EWU -20
MSU -13
Woff -8
GSU -9
ODU -17
ASU -5

[MontBison]

Jump on the stony brook wagon. No way Montana st wins by any more then 10

[SamsRams]

LVH lines will not be up til saturday morning

[CalBison97]

Lines as of today

NDSU -7
SHSU -13
EWU -20
MSU -13
Woff -8
GSU -9
ODU -17
ASU -5

I know this is from the Department of the Redundancy Department, but it only stands to reason that the #1 seed should have earned the matchup that would have given them the greatest point spread. Not the 7th (of 8). Regional matchups in DI...nice.

[bisonaudit]

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I know this is from the Department of the Redundancy Department, but it only stands to reason that the #1 seed should have earned the matchup that would have given them the greatest point spread. Not the 7th (of 8). Regional matchups in DI...nice.

++++++++++++++++++++

[BisonTeacher]

I know this is from the Department of the Redundancy Department, but it only stands to reason that the #1 seed should have earned the matchup that would have given them the greatest point spread. Not the 7th (of 8). Regional matchups in DI...nice.

IN addition...you would think the NCAA would want us to advance to Frisco, in terms of dollars we would generate. But if we don't go, I would venture that MCAA/Frisco wont make as much money. No offense to other schools, but I doubt many of the others would bring the contingent we do. Maybe montana St.

[56BISON73]

IN addition...you would think the NCAA would want us to advance to Frisco, in terms of dollars we would generate. But if we don't go, I would venture that MCAA/Frisco wont make as much money. No offense to other schools, but I doubt many of the others would bring the contingent we do. Maybe montana St.

Game is sold out no matter who plays. Only people who will feel the difference if the bison dont go are the local businesses.

[BisonTeacher]

Game is sold out no matter who plays. Only people who will feel the difference if the bison dont go are the local businesses.

Yep...thats Why I said NCAA/Frisco. Having said that...I would bet the NCAA gets a small cut on other things either in town, or hotels that are official NCAA hotels for example or concessions/souvinirs at the stadium.

[SamsRams]

Game is sold out no matter who plays. Only people who will feel the difference if the bison dont go are the local businesses.

I understand your point but the quarter and semifinals are not sold out yet

[SamsRams]

LVH lines
Wofford. 8
Gsu. 7
Odu 13
App 3
Shsu 12
NDSU 9.5
EWU NDSU 21.5
MSU 12

[KC Bison]

The number 1 team in the nation has a game where they are up 7 while the team with the goofy field is up 20 -- way to seed them NCAA.

[jimmyptubas]

The number 1 team in the nation has a game where they are up 7 while the team with the goofy field is up 20 -- way to seed them NCAA.

Yes, there is no way in hell that this makes any sense....but I must say that as the number 1 seed the honus is on us and how validated will we be when we win it all again with a bracket stacked against us.

[THEsocalledfan]

Just to brag, I hit on the 9.5 line when hanging with him at LVH.

[MontBison]

Mont St was easy money. Will be betting against them again next weekend

[SamsRams]

Mont St was easy money. Will be betting against them again next weekend
If stony brook and Wagner had won i would be up 1200. still did great on odu and wofford

[Elvis was a Bison]

No new lines posted for 7-8 December as of Noon on Monday. Need to keep checking periodically.

[CAS4127]

No new lines posted for 7-8 December as of Noon on Monday. Need to keep checking periodically.

You aren't checking the lines while driving, are you?! Gotta keep that Bison truck between the ditches!! :biggrin::hide:

[Elvis was a Bison]

Damn!
When you drive a high visibility vehicle like mine, everyone knows when you have an oops:( Rolled over 500 miles yesterday and lived to tell about it.:biggrin:

[CAS4127]

Damn!
When you drive a high visibility vehicle like mine, everyone knows when you have an oops:( Rolled over 500 miles yesterday and lived to tell about it.:biggrin:

Ya, and I live in Hillsboro and know about it-->think about that!!!!

[SamsRams]

SHSU MSU Pk
GSU -1
EWU -4
NDSU -16

[Tatanka]

SHSU MSU Pk
GSU -1
EWU -4
NDSU -16holy shit. 16 point favorites? Srsly.

And I'd absolutely take isu red +4

[NDSUBowler]

That's a MASSIVE opening. I feel like a ton of money went on NDSU in rd1 and they got beat bad so they want to open higher than where they'd like it to end knowing money will still flow to NDSU's side in the end....

[CalBison97]

holy shit. 16 point favorites? Srsly.

And I'd absolutely take isu red +4

I like ISU Red to straight up win. I would also go with SHSU and GSU.

[bisonaudit]

SHSU MSU Pk
GSU -1
EWU -4
NDSU -16

Just for reference. Sagarin lines:

MSU +3 1/2
ODU +1 1/2
EWU -5
NDSU -20

[CalBison97]

Just for reference. Sagarin lines:

MSU +3 1/2
ODU +1 1/2
EWU -5
NDSU -20

I believe I read somewhere Sagarin was 8 for 8 in last week's games?

[devin45k]

I think the next round will be

Old Dominion vs. NDSU

Illinois State vs. SHSU

If I was a gambler I would throw some cash down.

[bisonaudit]

I believe I read somewhere Sagarin was 8 for 8 in last week's games?

Yes, Sagarin correctly predicted all 8 winners on the field last Saturday.

[IzzyFlexion]

I like ISU Red to straight up win. I would also go with SHSU and GSU.

Then go money line on the birds and kick ass.

[dragonsfan]

Fri 12/7 141 Sam Houston State +1 -115 -105 o49 -120
8:00PM 142 Montana State -1 -115 -125 u49 -120

Sat 12/8 143 Georgia Southern pk -115 o69 -120
12:00PM 144 Old Dominion pk -115 u69 -120

Sat 12/8 145 Wofford +16 -115 +550 o39½ -120
3:00PM 146 North Dakota State -16 -115 -925 u39½ -120

Sat 12/8 147 Illinois State +5 -115 +165 o53 -120
6:00PM 148 Eastern Washington -5 -115 -205 u53 -120

Minnesota and Northern Illinois are +13

[dragonsfan]

oh oh vegas is losing faith in ndsu and sam houston

Fri 12/7 141 Sam Houston State +3
8:00PM 142 Montana State -3

Sat 12/8 143 Georgia Southern pk -110 o71½ -110
12:00PM 144 Old Dominion pk -110 u71½ -110

Sat 12/8 145 Wofford +15½ -110 +500 o39½ -110
3:00PM 146 North Dakota State -15½ -110 -700 u39½ -110

Sat 12/8 147 Illinois State +5 -110 +175 o54½ -110
6:00PM 148 Eastern Washington -5 -110 -210 u54½ -110

[bisonaudit]

The 5-Dimes link showed -14 -115 earlier this afternoon. Don't think of it as a lack of confidence. Think of it as a market opportunity.

[SamsRams]

oh oh vegas is losing faith in ndsu and sam houston

Fri 12/7 141 Sam Houston State +3
8:00PM 142 Montana State -3

Sat 12/8 143 Georgia Southern pk -110 o71½ -110
12:00PM 144 Old Dominion pk -110 u71½ -110

Sat 12/8 145 Wofford +15½ -110 +500 o39½ -110
3:00PM 146 North Dakota State -15½ -110 -700 u39½ -110

Sat 12/8 147 Illinois State +5 -110 +175 o54½ -110
6:00PM 148 Eastern Washington -5 -110 -210 u54½ -110

again I cant be more clear, vegas does not offer the line until the day of the game.

at 2 pm PST it was SHSU +2 o/u 49 SHSU ML +115

[MontBison]

Lost. Msu is wack

[SamsRams]

Shsu money line plus the over. Im hot these playoffs

[Elvis was a Bison]

12-12-12
5dimes has:
NDSU -9.5 over GSU
SHSU -4 over EWU

Get out your wallets, all you Georgia folks that think you can cover.:)

[gotts]

12-12-12
5dimes has:
NDSU -9.5 over GSU
SHSU -4 over EWU

Get out your wallets, all you Georgia folks that think you can cover.:)

Any word on an O/U for the game?

[bisonaudit]

Any word on an O/U for the game?

45 and a hook. For real time updates see the link in the first post of this thread.

[gotts]

45 and a hook. For real time updates see the link in the first post of this thread.

Thanks. I think our game squeaks over.

In the other game, I think 60 gets hammered. Both those teams will be scoring in bunches.

[jimmyptubas]

Do you people actually use 5dimes or just use their site as an example? Is it easy to get an account and get money on to it?

[NDSUBowler]

Do you people actually use 5dimes or just use their site as an example? Is it easy to get an account and get money on to it?
I use it/betus/pinnacle to find lines and then go through a friend that will take any of my action if I show him the 5dimes line.

[tojo70]

Do you people actually use 5dimes or just use their site as an example? Is it easy to get an account and get money on to it?
I use it. It's very easy to do. I used my debit card to fund the account. Funny thing was that of course it goes into an overseas account. Well, within literally 90 seconds after the transaction my bank called me to verify it.

[THEsocalledfan]

I use it. It's very easy to do. I used my debit card to fund the account. Funny thing was that of course it goes into an overseas account. Well, within literally 90 seconds after the transaction my bank called me to verify it.

I'd caution folks on these books. Based on what the DOJ did to Fulltiltpoker and others, they clearly would consider this unlawful. There is always going to be a chance your account will be frozen and best case, it will take forever to get your money. Further, you have to worry about the regulatory oversight. Fulltilt was basically a ponzi scheme due to guys skimming then not having the cash in the bank to refund players accounts when they were supposedly being regulated by the Isle of Man or something. I had read many folks saying not to worry, etc., before that went down too......

[bisonaudit]

I'd caution folks on these books. Based on what the DOJ did to Fulltiltpoker and others, they clearly would consider this unlawful. There is always going to be a chance your account will be frozen and best case, it will take forever to get your money. Further, you have to worry about the regulatory oversight. Fulltilt was basically a ponzi scheme due to guys skimming then not having the cash in the bank to refund players accounts when they were supposedly being regulated by the Isle of Man or something. I had read many folks saying not to worry, etc., before that went down too......

This.

Tell your elected representatives to end the prohibition on sports gaming in the US outside of NV.

[jimmyptubas]

I could not agree with you more. We should not have to go through for different parties to place a bet .

[NDSUBowler]

Ehhh wasnt really a ponzi scheme. I disagree with you on that point. I do agree its pretty risky though. I do make bets on Bovada, however, and havent had problems. A friend just deposited there few days ago with ease.

Also agree to contact your representative and legalize poker in the US! My job depends on it!

[SamsRams]

I don't think anyone is questioning how easy it is to deposit money I think the question should be how easy is it to get the money out

[NDSUBowler]

I don't think anyone is questioning how easy it is to deposit money I think the question should be how easy is it to get the money out
Checks from bovada take 2-4 weeks usually.

I got my last one in 13 days.

Reading the poker forums this seems to be about the norm at this current moment.

[jimmyptubas]

I bet online with betonline and after having issues with verifying my identity and credit cards, I finally took advantage of their once per month free cash out on Friday. I had to call and some one from Guatemala sent me a money gram with my money. Haven't very online since not because I didn't like it but because I've head no money.

[THEsocalledfan]

Ehhh wasnt really a ponzi scheme. I disagree with you on that point. I do agree its pretty risky though. I do make bets on Bovada, however, and havent had problems. A friend just deposited there few days ago with ease.

Also agree to contact your representative and legalize poker in the US! My job depends on it!

Well, what was it then? Any legitimate casino should be able to cover all bets being made. It is one of the central tenants of Nevada gaming regulations. The moment Full Tilt was shut down, they should have been able to pay every player, clear and simple. The fact there was not enough money there makes it a ponzi scheme. Last time i checked, the rake is what is suppose to pay for the costs of operating said casino, not players bets. If you don't believe it was a ponzi scheme, here is one of the many articles I have read:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48058369/ns/business-us_business/t/full-tilt-poker-ceo-arrested-fraud-charges/#.UMs04eRz3pw

If you have proof of legit reasons the money was not paid out immediately, I'd love to hear them. There was a myth at one point that it was due to the fed investigation, but that was quickly proven untrue when poker stars and some other sites paid out.

[bisonaudit]

Well, what was it then? Any legitimate casino should be able to cover all bets being made. It is one of the central tenants of Nevada gaming regulations. The moment Full Tilt was shut down, they should have been able to pay every player, clear and simple. The fact there was not enough money there makes it a ponzi scheme. Last time i checked, the rake is what is suppose to pay for the costs of operating said casino, not players bets. If you don't believe it was a ponzi scheme, here is one of the many articles I have read:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48058369/ns/business-us_business/t/full-tilt-poker-ceo-arrested-fraud-charges/#.UMs04eRz3pw

If you have proof of legit reasons the money was not paid out immediately, I'd love to hear them. There was a myth at one point that it was due to the fed investigation, but that was quickly proven untrue when poker stars and some other sites paid out.

You can call it a Ponzi scheme, you can say they were operating in violation of gaming regulations, you can say they were effectively operating as an unregistered bank treating player accounts as deposits but only retaining a fractional reserve. However you characterize it. It was illegal.

[THEsocalledfan]

You can call it a Ponzi scheme, you can say they were operating in violation of gaming regulations, you can say they were effectively operating as an unregistered bank treating player accounts as deposits but only retaining a fractional reserve. However you characterize it. It was illegal.

No argument there, but I think the prohibition on internet poker play is a stupid law when the country could make lots of money on it by taxing it and regulating it ensuring it is legit. My problem with Full Tilt was not that they broke stupid laws, but that they were skimming money. That is my beef and I can't see how anyone can defend Full Tilt when you consider that issue.

[Elvis was a Bison]

Monday has NDSU favored by 1.5 vs Sam Houston on the 5dimes site.

[Elvis was a Bison]

Santa gave SHSU another 1/2 point for Christmas.

Gameday - Saturday, January 05, 2013 1:00 PM

Football College Spread Money Line
281 Sam Houston State +2 -120 +110
282 North Dakota State -2 -120 -140

As of 4 PM CST December 26th

[THEsocalledfan]

Sam's, will books other than LVH in Vegas run a line on this one?

[SamsRams]

Sam's, will books other than LVH in Vegas run a line on this one?

most likely yes, but not until the day of the game

[westnodak93bison]

http://www.nationalsportsrankings.com/index.php?option=com_oneonone
North Dakota St.(2012) wins 74 of 100 matchups against Sam Houston St.(2012)
Projected Score: North Dakota St. 26 Sam Houston St. 19
Margin of Victory: 7 Points

Sagarin has Bison by 2.35 on a neutral field. We may have "home field".

[Loud and Proud Bison fan]

most likely yes, but not until the day of the game

Where in Vegas can you bet on this game? My dad told me he tried everywhere last year. Only way he could place a bet was if he had $25K and they would make up a line.

[SamsRams]

Where in Vegas can you bet on this game? My dad told me he tried everywhere last year. Only way he could place a bet was if he had $25K and they would make up a line.

LVH for sure

[Loud and Proud Bison fan]

Do you mean the Ramada in Las vegas?

[SamsRams]

http://www.thelvh.com/

[Elvis was a Bison]

January 1st, 2013 9:00 AM

Curious!

5dimes has no numbers on the board for the FCS Championship Game as of right now.:confused:

[westnodak93bison]

Superbook has the game as a PK as of yesterday.

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