Coaching Rumor Mill

[NDSUstudent]

Early #Purdue names: Butch Jones; Dave Doeren; Sonny Dykes; Tim DeRuyter; Mark Helfrich; Brock Spack; Darrell Hazell; Dave Clawson

https://twitter.com/BTNTomDienhart/status/272826914262093824


@footballscoop reporting that Sam Houston State HC Willie Fritz will interview for UTEP job

https://twitter.com/DomIzzoWDAY/status/272826153880911873

[NDSUstudent]

Stole this from another thread but added Colorado since they just fired their coach...

FBS

ACC
NC State- fired Tom O'Brien...hired Dave Doeren(HC NIU)
Boston College- fired Frank Spaziani..hired Steve Addazio(Temple HC)

B1G
Purdue- fired Danny Hope...Hired Darrell Hazell(Kent State HC)
Wisconsin- Bret Bielema left for Arkansas...Hired Gary Andersen(Utah State HC)

PAC12
Cal- fired Jeff Tedford...hired Sonny Dykes(La Tech HC)
Colorado- fired John Embree...hired Mike Macintyre(San Jose St HC)

SEC
Arkansas- fired Bobby Petrino and John L. Smith(one year coach)...Hired Bret Bielema(Wisconsin HC)
Auburn- fired Gene Chizik...Hired Gus Malzahn(Ark State HC)
Kentucky- fired Joker Phillips...Hired Florida State D-Cord Mark Stoops
Tennessee- fired Derek Dooley...Hired Butch Jones(Cincy Head Coach)

Big 12
Texas Tech- Tommy Tuberville left for Cincy....hired Kliff Kingsbury(Texas A&M OC)

Big East
USF- Fired Skip Holtz...hired Willie Taggart(WKU HC)
Temple- Steve Addazio left for Boston College....hired Mutt Ruhle(NY Giants OL Coach)
Cincy- Butch Jones left for Tennessee....hired Tommy Tuberville

CUSA
UTEP- Mike Price retiring.....hired Sean Kugler(Pittsburgh Steelers OL Coach)
Southern Miss- Fired Ellis Johnson...hired Todd Monken(Ok State OC)
FIU- Fired Mario Cristobal
La Tech- Sonny Dykes left for Cal....hired Skip Holtz(former South Florida Coach)

MWC
SJSU- Mike Macintyre left for Colorado...hired Ron Caragher(U of San Diego HC)
Utah State- Gary Andersen left for Wisconsin...promoted OC Matt Wells to head coach

MAC
Western Michigan-fired Bill Cubit...hired P.J. Fleck(Tampa Bay WR Coach)
Northern Illinois- Dave Doeren left to coach NC State....Promoted OC Rod Carey
Kent State- Darrell Hazell left to coach Purdue...hired Paul Haynes(Former Arkansas DC)

Sun Belt
Georgia State- Bill Curry retiring...Hired Trent Miles(Indiana State HC)
Arkansas State- Gus Malzahn left for Auburn....hired Bryan Harsin(Texas OC)
Western Kentucky- Willie Taggart left for USF...hired Bobby Petrion(Former Arkansas HC)

Indy
Idaho- fired Robb Akey...Hired Paul Petrino(Arkansas OC)

FCS

MVFC
ISUB- Trent Miles left for Ga State...hired Mike Sanford(Utah State Asst HC)
WIU- Fired Mark Hendrickson...hired Bob Nielson(UMD HC)

SoCon
App State- Jerry Moore retiring...promoted OC Scott Satterfield to head coach

Big Sky
UC Davis- Bob Biggs retiring...hired Ron Gould(Cal RB Coach)

Southland
Northwestern State- Fired Bradley Dale Peveto...Hired Jay Thomas(Missouri Southern Assistant HC)

OVC
Jacksonville State- Fired Jack Crowe...Hired Will Clark(South Alabama DC)

MEAC
Florida A&M- Joe Taylor retiring

Pioneer
Campbelll- Fired Dale Steele and Hired Liberty special teams coach Mike Minter
Morehead State- Fired Matt Ballard...promoted OC Rob Tenyer to head coach
Davidson- Fired Tripp Merritt....hired Paul Nichols(Director of Player Personnel at Illinois)
USD- Ron Caragher left for San Jose St

SWAC
Southern- Fired Stump Mitchell...promoted interim HC Dawson Odoms to head coach

[ndsubisonx]

Purdue is bowl eligible too

[dragonsfan]

Colorado is an obvious choice for coach bohl

[KSBisonFan]

Colorado is an obvious choice for coach bohl

Explain why this is an 'obvious' choice.

[dragonsfan]

midwest connection, beat colorado state their rivals handily with a fcs team. fargo to denver flights so he can still be with family.

[Rockbear99]

And no chance of winning a National championship ever. yeah that looks good to me.

[KSBisonFan]

midwest connection, beat colorado state their rivals handily with a fcs team. fargo to denver flights so he can still be with family.

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q598/jghoffman12/Soclose.gif

[Civil06]

midwest connection, beat colorado state their rivals handily with a fcs team. fargo to denver flights so he can still be with family.

Good points, and not as crazy as everybody else seems to think. Boulder is an awesome city, he's familiar with program from his Big 12 days, and he'd be coaching in the Pac-12. I hope he doesn't go there, but I think it's a job he'd have to consider if given the opportunity.

[silkamilkamonico]

And no chance of winning a National championship ever. yeah that looks good to me.

Never?

26 conference Championships in major conferences
Heisman winner along with multiple finalists
National Champion

Great Facilites
Arguably one of the most beautiful campuses in the country
Diehard football fans wanting desperately to cling on to anything successful in the area collegewise

I don't like Colorado, but that's a pretty mint job for someone who wants to take on a rebuilding project, unless you're insinutating Bohl isn't a good coach or a program rebuilder.

I do agree with your arguement on why NDSU should never go FBS though

[ndsubisonx]

And no chance of winning a National championship ever. yeah that looks good to me.

they were one of the top teams a decade ago. i wouldnt say no chance

[WYOBISONMAN]

I think CU would be a real option for Bohl. And the cash would probably be very big.

[SlickVic]

arkansas would be a match made in heaven just sayin bobby patrino junior pig seuwy we comin we comin

[NDSUstudent]

CU's AD said this after firing his head coach....


M Bohn just fired a coach after 2 years and told the nation his program is underfunded, can't compete and has bad facilities.

https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/273137395535323137

[344Johnson]

Colorado needs a genius to come in there. Some big name cat.

[NDSUstudent]

Kentucky has hired Florida State D-Cord Mark Stoops.

[jacksfan29]

Colorado needs a genius to come in there. Some big name cat.

Genius maybe, but what you will see is a well paid big name coach or a coordinator from one of the bigger name FBS schools. There is no way Bohl even gets an interview for this job. CU took a chance with a smaller school head coach in Hawkins. The alumni and those who donate to the athletic department would throw a fit if there was even a hint of someone like Bohl's name in the mix. There is a better chance of a local High School coach getting the job then Bohl (see Dave Logan).

[BadlandsBison]

Genius maybe, but what you will see is a well paid big name coach or a coordinator from one of the bigger name FBS schools. There is no way Bohl even gets an interview for this job. CU took a chance with a smaller school head coach in Hawkins. The alumni and those who donate to the athletic department would throw a fit if there was even a hint of someone like Bohl's name in the mix. There is a better chance of a local High School coach getting the job then Bohl (see Dave Logan).

How much is CU willing to spend?

[NDSUstudent]

First page is updated with all the FCS and FBS vacancies.

[imabison]

Stole this from another thread but added Colorado since they just fired their coach...

FBS

ACC
NC State- fired Tom O'Brien
Boston College- fired Frank Spaziani

BIG
Purdue- fired Danny Hope

PAC12
Cal- fired Jeff Tedford
Colorado- fired John Embree

SEC
Arkansas- fired Bobby Petrino and John L. Smith(one year coach)
Auburn- fired Gene Chizik
Kentucky- fired Joker Phillips...Hired Florida State D-Cord Mark Stoops
Tennessee- fired Derek Dooley

CUSA
UTEP- Mike Price retiring
Southern Miss- Fired Ellis Johnson

MAC
Western Michigan-fired Bill Cubit

Sun Belt
Georgia State- Bill Curry retiring

Indy
Idaho- fired Robb Akey

FCS

MVFC
WIU- Fired Mark Hendrickson

Southland
Northwestern State- Fired Bradley Dale Peveto

MEAC
Florida A&M- Joe Taylor retiring

Pioneer
Campbelll- Fired Dale Steele and Hired Liberty special teams coach Mike Minter
Morehead State- Fired Matt Ballard
Davidson- Fired Tripp Merritt

IZZO said that Indiana State coach to Western Michigan

[NDSUstudent]

Wow that would be a huge blow for ISUB if true.

[KSBisonFan]

IZZO said that Indiana State coach to Western Michigan

Apparently not the case:

https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=Rick_Sports10


Western Michigan Sports information confirmed to Fox 17 in Grand Rapids MI that they haven't interviewed ISU head football coach Trent Miles

[KSBisonFan]

ESPN just said Arkansas has an offer out to Les Miles for 5 years and $27.5 Mil to leave LSU and coach the Razorbacks.

[ndsubisonx]

Apparently not the case:

https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=Rick_Sports10

same thing happened with dane fife and michigan state for bball last year. we'll see how it plays out

[onbison09]

ESPN just said Arkansas has an offer out to Les Miles for 5 years and $27.5 Mil to leave LSU and coach the Razorbacks.

Gotta be a PR move. Why would Les take that?

[ndsubisonx]

its worth a shot. les aint taking it though. if he didnt go to michigan he wont move in conference to arkansas. i think both arkansas and tennessee go after louisville coach charlie strong. former florida DC

[SlickVic]

ar kansas is a desitynation job dude jon gruden les miles craig bohl in no particular order is what my source be tellin me woo pig suey

[EndZoneQB]

ESPN just said Arkansas has an offer out to Les Miles for 5 years and $27.5 Mil to leave LSU and coach the Razorbacks.

But most of the time, let 'er rip!


http://youtu.be/g9mKMJVxrk0

(They lost 52-9)

[jacksfan29]

How much is CU willing to spend?

AD came out today and said they are planning to pay $2.5 million annual salary.

[BadlandsBison]

AD came out today and said they are planning to pay $2.5 million annual salary.

That's not bad.

[NDSU1980]

AD came out today and said they are planning to pay $2.5 million annual salary.Heck, that's nothing compared to what I'm going to win in a half hour when my Power Ball numbers get drawn. :D

[BisonNeil]

This may have been posted in another thread, but I see Monte Kiffin is resigning from USC after the season to go back to the NFL. He has taken a lot of harsh criticism for his defenses the past two years. I wonder what this means for Scottie Hazelton? Gone, or will he be promoted?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/ncaa/11/29/usc-monte-kiffin-resigns-nfl.ap/index.html?sct=cf_t2_a3

[NDSUstudent]

Georgia State hires ISUB coach Trent Miles.

http://tribstar.com/breakingnews/x1951910527/BREAKING-ISU-football-coach-Trent-Miles-leaving-for-Georgia-State

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[aces1180]

Georgia State hires ISUB coach Trent Miles.

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Sucks for ISUB...

[NDSUstudent]

Sucks for ISUB...

Yep this is a big loss for the trees.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

arkansas would be a match made in heaven just sayin bobby patrino junior pig seuwy we comin we comin

yeah until he enters death valley, real recognize real slickvic

[NDSUFan_Sav]

ar kansas is a desitynation job dude jon gruden les miles craig bohl in no particular order is what my source be tellin me woo pig suey

heard Tennessee AD was going to meet with Gruden, Arkansas would be a great job for Bohl.

[Bison"FANatic"]

Well judging by the number of Arkansas people that stopped us and talked Bison football and how impressed they were with our team last year at the Cottonbowl, some of their fans at least have a idea of what Bohl can do.

It would give me another reason to cheer for WOOOOOOOO PPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIGGGGGGG SSSSSUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEYYYYYY.

[Honeybooboo]

Well judging by the number of Arkansas people that stopped us and talked Bison football and how impressed they were with our team last year at the Cottonbowl, some of their fans at least have a idea of what Bohl can do.

It would give me another reason to cheer for WOOOOOOOO PPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIGGGGGGG SSSSSUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEYYYYYY.

Same here, them and the Kansas st fans, they were totally impressed with the amount of green they saw

[BadlandsBison]

heard Tennessee AD was going to meet with Gruden, Arkansas would be a great job for Bohl.

That would be awesome to see Gruden back coaching. But I think chances are he will stay put, he seems pretty happy.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

That would be awesome to see Gruden back coaching. But I think chances are he will stay put, he seems pretty happy.

Grudens going nowhere imo

[BisonNeil]

Bohl's not going to the MAC, ever. I am watching the MAC championship game and they just showed the salary of the Kent St coach, 300k, and the N Illinois coach, 430k. Why bother with the MAC?

[td577]

Grudens going nowhere imo

If he does go anywhere, you would think it would be for pro money.


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[IndyBison]

Bohl's not going to the MAC, ever. I am watching the MAC championship game and they just showed the salary of the Kent St coach, 300k, and the N Illinois coach, 430k. Why bother with the MAC?
I'm surprised Coach Miles left Indiana State for Georgia State. That's a fairly lateral move although he will get to play his home games in the Georgia Dome. There are lots of reasons why coaches move. Big Ten schools would generally consider a MAC coach before they would consider a MVFC coach so that would make sense if that was a long term goal. Still bummed for Indiana State. He will be hard to replace at a school like that.

[BadlandsBison]

If he does go anywhere, you would think it would be for pro money.


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Me too. Not just the money, but I think he prefers the game.

[KSBisonFan]

Bohl's not going to the MAC, ever. I am watching the MAC championship game and they just showed the salary of the Kent St coach, 300k, and the N Illinois coach, 430k. Why bother with the MAC?

I saw this as well. The Kent State coach doesn't even have a bonus in his contract had they gone to a BCS bowl game (they had a shot had they won). These aren't even incentive laden contracts. Lot's of coaches have moved up out of the MAC and I can see why.

Side note....both the Kent St and Illinois St coaches are rumored for bigger jobs but Kent St had some of the worst play calling I've seen. Example, in OT they are moving the ball with their 250 lb RB with power football and on 3rd down and short they run a reverse to a RB who has no speed and bad hands. He fumbles and they settle for a fg. Too cute with the playcalling.

[td577]

It is the kent state coach's fault he doesn't have any bonus clauses. If Bohl were to go to any program I would think he would negotiate bonuses. Kill and Tressel are a couple who found their way to bcs conferences, I would think Bohl would be making that step, not the MAC.


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[NDSUstudent]

Dave Doeren (Northern Illinois) is the new NC State head coach

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120112aaa.html

[NDSUstudent]

Jacksonville State fires Head Coach Jack Crowe...

http://annistonstar.com/view/full_story/20988862/article-Jacksonville-State-fires-Jack-Crowe-after-13-seasons?instance=sports_main_jsu

[NDSUstudent]

Huge news...Jerry Moore is out as App State's Head Coach...


Jerry Moore will not return as coach at Appalachian State next season. Scott Satterfield will serve as interim coach. #Appstate

http://twitter.com/AppTrailWSJ/status/275343454811332609

[Tatanka]

Huge news...Jerry Moore is out as App State's Head Coach...



http://twitter.com/AppTrailWSJ/status/275343454811332609:eek: Holy carp.

[NDSUstudent]

:eek: Holy carp.

It's official....

http://www.goasu.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21500&ATCLID=205819345

[NDSUstudent]

USF fires Skip Holtz

http://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/275290151138246657

[mebisonII]

It's official....

http://www.goasu.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21500&ATCLID=205819345

And it sounds like he was, at least to some extent, pushed out. After the season, he asked for another year, and the AD said, "nope, we had an agreement, even if you didn't think it was binding, yet".

http://www.journalnow.com/sports/asu/football/article_40f40ff6-3cc7-11e2-b015-0019bb30f31a.html

[Bisonfan1]

:eek: Holy carp.

no kidding, Jerry apparientely isnt HOT HOT HOT, hes NOT NOT NOT. Every since Bisonguy posted the app state hot hot hot thing, and I even think of app state that damn jingle comes in my head. Thanx Bisonguy.

[NDSUstudent]

Sounds like Bret Bielema to Arkansas.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--sources--arkansas-to-hire-bret-bielema-195732340.html

[td577]

The domino effect has begun.


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[NDSUstudent]

Auburn has hired Arkansas State head coach Gus Malzahn.

[The_Sicatoka]

The domino effect has begun.

... and it's not just conferences anymore.

[HoopsBison]

Wow on Wisconsin coach leaving.

[tony]

Wow on Wisconsin coach leaving.

WOw! Very surprised.

[NDSUstudent]

I'm shocked as well....plus Wisconsin is dumping about $90 million into facilities....that include a number of a football upgrades...

http://www.foxsportswisconsin.com/05/18/12/Badgers-putting-86-million-into-faciliti/landing_badgers.html?blockID=731542

[DePereBisonFan]

Wow on Wisconsin coach leaving.

This is shocking. I wonder what will happen now. I assume interim coach for the Rose Bowl?

[DePereBisonFan]

...Bohl to Wisconsin? :hide:

[aces1180]

...Bohl to Wisconsin? :hide:

I read the Pitt coach (Chryst) is the #1 candidate, which would also bring Brooks Bollinger back to Madison.

[MNLonghorn10]

Bielmas an asshole. Hes goin to fit in great with the sec

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[heymch86]

You've got to believe Coach Bohl is on the short list at Wisconsin, but outside of their top 2-3 wish list. If the Bison win this weekend, it might keep Craig in Fargo as Wisconsin will not want to wait until Dec. 15, and then after that, until January 5, to hire a coach.

[NDSUstudent]

I'm sure Chryst is at the top of their list and will probably take the job.

[NDSUstudent]

Boston College hires Temple head coach Steve Addazio

[NDSUstudent]

Sounds like Purdue might hire Kent State's coach.

http://www.hammerandrails.com/2012/12/4/3728190/purdue-football-coaching-search-boilers-hire-darrell-hazell

[LITTLEGUYSINGREEN]

You've got to believe Coach Bohl is on the short list at Wisconsin, but outside of their top 2-3 wish list. If the Bison win this weekend, it might keep Craig in Fargo as Wisconsin will not want to wait until Dec. 15, and then after that, until January 5, to hire a coach.

The last time Wisc. hired a former Bison head coach it didn't work out to well for them.

[IndyBison]

Sounds like Purdue might hire Kent State's coach.

http://www.hammerandrails.com/2012/12/4/3728190/purdue-football-coaching-search-boilers-hire-darrell-hazell
If Coach Bohl is ever interested in coaching in the Big Ten he might want to consider the MAC first. There are several coaches who have jumped from the MAC to the Big Ten (not always directly):

Jerry Kill - Northern Illinois -> Minnesota
Brady Hoke - Ball State -> Michigan
Urban Meyer - Bowling Green -> Ohio State
Tim Beckman - Toledo -> Illinois
Darrell Hazell - Kent State -> Purdue

The rest of the coaches came either from the NFL or other FBS staffs.

[reformedUNDfan]

this is why the big10 is so uncompetetive, all their best coaches all end up in the sec for the money.

[ndsubisonx]

You've got to believe Coach Bohl is on the short list at Wisconsin, but outside of their top 2-3 wish list. If the Bison win this weekend, it might keep Craig in Fargo as Wisconsin will not want to wait until Dec. 15, and then after that, until January 5, to hire a coach.

do you really think wisconsin wants an fcs coach? i can see them going after northwesterns coach or a top DC or OC somewhere

[reformedUNDfan]

do you really think wisconsin wants an fcs coach? i can see them going after northwesterns coach or a top DC or OC somewhere

outside of paul chryst or NC states new coach, there aren't many more obvious choices. That said I wouldn't be surprised to see Barry Alvarez jump back into the ring.

[westnodak93bison]

The last time Wisc. hired a former Bison head coach it didn't work out to well for them.

Didnt give them enough time imho.

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[Bison bison]

That said I wouldn't be surprised to see Barry Alvarez jump back into the ring.


better be a big ring.

[KSBisonFan]

Bielema's contract terms....$3.2 per plus incentives. Not bad.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bret-bielema-leaves-wisconsin-arkansas-092816936--ncaaf.html

[56BISON73]

The last time Wisc. hired a former Bison head coach it didn't work out to well for them.

Thats what happens when you have administration trying to dictate whos on the coaching staff.

[Jay]

Butch Jones to CU per Woody Paige

https://twitter.com/woodypaige/status/276461785043832832


Butch Jones accepts CU head coaching job.

And doesn't take it per Pete Thamel

https://twitter.com/SIPeteThamel/status/276464252229931009


Just reached out to Butch Jones, who said any report of him taking the Colorado job is "absolutely false."

[EndZoneQB]

Butch Jones to CU per Woody Paige

https://twitter.com/woodypaige/status/276461785043832832



And doesn't take it per Pete Thamel

https://twitter.com/SIPeteThamel/status/276464252229931009

This was posted like 6 mins ago:
http://www.denverpost.com/dnc/ci_22129810

[Putz]

Bielema's contract terms....$3.2 per plus incentives. Not bad.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bret-bielema-leaves-wisconsin-arkansas-092816936--ncaaf.html

That's enough to buy a new motorcycle and a girlfriend to ride on the back! How much was he making at Wisconsin?

[NDSUstudent]

Alvarez will coach Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl....

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8718209/barry-alvarez-coach-wisconsin-badgers-rose-bowl-bret-bielema-says

[56BISON73]

Dykes to CA.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8718273/sonny-dykes-hired-california-new-coach-sources-say

[NDSUstudent]

Tennessee hires Cincy Head Coach Butch Jones....

http://www.nj.com/collegefootball/index.ssf/2012/12/butch_jones_lands_at_tennessee.html

[devin45k]

FBS is ridiculous.....coaches change programs too frequent

[NDSUstudent]

Western Kentucky head coach Willie Taggart is the new South Florida coach...

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/sports/sports_blogs_local/usf-to-announce-wkus-willie-taggart-as-new-head-football-coach

[td577]

Western Kentucky head coach Willie Taggart is the new South Florida coach...

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/sports/sports_blogs_local/usf-to-announce-wkus-willie-taggart-as-new-head-football-coach

I guess when you have gone a couple of years in the dumps, usf getting a guy that has built a program to the big joes truck parts bowls seems like a pretty good deal.


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[KSBisonFan]

Tommy Tuberville leaving Texas Tech to take the head job at Cincinnati. He must have really hated Lubbock.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8726388/tommy-tuberville-leaves-texas-tech-raiders-become-coach-cincinnati-bearcats

[mebisonII]

How much dumber does the whole bowl season look when 1/2 the teams are coached by someone other than the coach that got them to the bowl?

[TAILG8R]

How much dumber does the whole bowl season look when 1/2 the teams are coached by someone other than the coach that got them to the bowl?

That right there will tell you how meaningless the bowl system is.

[bruinbison]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8732344/colorado-buffaloes-tap-san-jose-state-spartans-mike-macintyre-coach-sources-say

ESPN reporting San Jose State's Mike Macintyre hired for Colorado Buff's job. This was an opening Dom had highlighted on tv sports as an opening where CU could look at Coach Bohl, not as a likely case, but could happen.

[NDSUstudent]

Another coaching move shocker....Bobby Petrino to Western Kentucky....


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21347707/report-bobby-petrino-hired-as-new-western-kentucky-head-coach

[MNLonghorn10]

western KY is a short drive to eastern arkansas

[KSBisonFan]

western KY is a short drive to eastern arkansas

In a car!!......Petrino rolls on a motorcycle with VB players in tow. Likes to take the scenic route for a complimentary a$$-kicking from fiances of VB players so it becomes a much longer drive.
#ifyou'rehavinganaffairandgetyourasskickedcoveritu pwithamotorcycleaccident......allegedly.

[NDSUstudent]

Southern Miss hires Oklahoma State OC Todd Monken.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OSU/article.aspx?subjectid=93&articleid=20121210_93_0_Whenin950350&r=4219

[mebisonII]

Another coaching move shocker....Bobby Petrino to Western Kentucky....


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21347707/report-bobby-petrino-hired-as-new-western-kentucky-head-coach

Yahoo Sports lays out what will happen at WKU:


With Western Kentucky's hiring of Bobby Petrino, the school is assured of winning some football games and losing its soul. Perhaps that's a fair trade-off in college football.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/western-kentucky-hires-bobby-petrino-baggage-182507706--ncaaf.html

[NDSUstudent]

Arkansas State hires Texas OC Bryan Harsin...

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8738781/sources-texas-longhorns-co-offensive-coordinator-bryan-harsin-takes-arkansas-state-red-wolves

[NDSUstudent]

Texas Tech hires Texas A&M OC Kliff Kingsbury to be their new head coach.

[NDSUstudent]

Finalists for the WIU job...


Missouri S&T head coach David Brown, Minnesota - Duluth head coach Bob Nielson and former Western Michigan head coach Bill Cubit

[aces1180]

Texas Tech hires Texas A&M OC Kliff Kingsbury to be their new head coach.

Random: He was a QB there and if I recall, he used to date Jessica Simpson.

[KSBisonFan]

You'll want to move Tommy Tuberville up your a$$hat rankings behind Petrino after you read this:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/tommy-tuberville-reportedly-ditches-recruits-middle-dinner-cincinnati-154637499--ncaaf.html

[SamsRams]

You'll want to move Tommy Tuberville up your a$$hat rankings behind Petrino after you read this:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/tommy-tuberville-reportedly-ditches-recruits-middle-dinner-cincinnati-154637499--ncaaf.html

well you cant take the job and then go back in the room to recruit them to Cincy. I get how this looks bad, but it is exactly what he should have done.

[KSBisonFan]

well you cant take the job and then go back in the room to recruit them to Cincy. I get how this looks bad, but it is exactly what he should have done.

Probably, but he could have gone back to the dinner table and announced that something came up and he had to leave, thank the recruits, let the assistants know what was going on etc.

[NDSUstudent]

Wow....from Kolpack's twitter....


What's it say about former NDSU opponent NW State (La.) & Southland Conf when a community college coach turns down offer to be head coach.

https://twitter.com/FGOSPORTSWRITER/status/279062777656668160

[silkamilkamonico]

well you cant take the job and then go back in the room to recruit them to Cincy. I get how this looks bad, but it is exactly what he should have done.

He could have been professional about it, went back to the table and simply yell those young men he was leaving for the evening. Wouldnt have even had to explain why.

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[NDSUstudent]

Skip Holtz(former South Florida coach) to La Tech...

Mike Riley(Oregon State coach) will interview at Wisconsin....

App State promotes OC Scott Satterfield to head coach

[SamsRams]

He could have been professional about it, went back to the table and simply yell those young men he was leaving for the evening. Wouldnt have even had to explain why.

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we dont know the rules, remember we are talking about the NCAA here. kids were on a recruiting trip for Texas Tech.....he suddenly became a head coach for a different team. At that point I dont know if he is allowed to contact the kids who are on an official visit to another school much less talk to them in person on their official visit. Also, I dont know if Cincy would have allowed him to inform the coaches at that point. Imagine he did and a couple of those coaches go with him to Cincy.

I am not saying I like Tubberville, just saying there might be more to the story

[NDSUstudent]

Indiana State hires Utah State Assistant Head Coach Mike Sanford...

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/12/14/indiana-state-names-sanford-head-football-coach/

[BisonAccountant44]

You've got to believe Coach Bohl is on the short list at Wisconsin, but outside of their top 2-3 wish list. If the Bison win this weekend, it might keep Craig in Fargo as Wisconsin will not want to wait until Dec. 15, and then after that, until January 5, to hire a coach.

This was posted on AGS this afternoon. I don't know who the author is, but thought it should go here. I hadn't seen anything about Western MI, was that mentioned anywhere on here?


Wisconsin: It will be interesting to see if Barry Alvarez contacts North Dakota State head coach Craig Bohl after the FCS national championship game. While there has been some speculation that Western Michigan may have interest in Bohl, a source tells me that Bohl would not be interested in the Western Michigan job. In recent years, he did not have interest in other MAC jobs like Ball State and Northern Illinois. Like Alvarez, Bohl (54) is a Nebraska guy who coached with the Huskers from 1995 - 2002. Bohl, however, did coach at Wisconsin from 1987 - 1988. As pointed out earlier tonight, there's always a strong chance your new head coach will have previous coaching experience at the university (http://www.bisonville.com/home/2018-who-will-be-your-next-head-coach-.html). In related news, Notre Dame defensive coordinator Bob Diaco told CBS today that he has not heard from Wisconsin.

http://www.coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html

[JSUBison]

This was posted on AGS this afternoon. I don't know who the author is, but thought it should go here. I hadn't seen anything about Western MI, was that mentioned anywhere on here?



http://www.coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker.html

I saw Barry Alvarez in the panorama photo.

[NDSUstudent]

San Jose State has hired U of San Diego coach Ron Caragher

http://www.mercurynews.com/sjsu-spartans/ci_22208916/san-jose-state-will-introduce-new-football-coach

[The Lost Dutchman]

It has officially made it onto the rumor mill on espn.com, let the speculation begin!

[MinotBison]

It has officially made it onto the rumor mill on espn.com, let the speculation begin!

It being.........?

[EndZoneQB]

It being.........?

Bohl to Sconi.

[gotts]

Link?

10 char

[EndZoneQB]

Link?

10 char

You can only read it if you are an "insider": http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/features/rumors/_/date/20121217#13916

[NDSUstudent]

Paul Haynes(Former Arkansas DC) is Kent State's new Head Coach
P.J. Fleck(Tampa Bay WR Coach) is Western Michigan's new Head Coach

[NDSUstudent]

Only Wisconsin and FIU have FBS head coaching vacancies.

[BadlandsBison]

Maybe somebody can verify this;

I thought I remember one off-season a few years ago that Bohl took his staff to Wisconsin because he wanted to build a similar program and fashion the offense after theirs. Maybe they were impressed with Bohl :)

[Greenie]

The only supposed knock on Bohl is the "FCS or I-AA label". He has learned how the build a coaching staff, recruit players, and execute a system that is able to stop all the gimicky offenses, and play balanced on offense. Bohl is looking for the right fit, Wisconsin is the right fit (whether they know it yet or not). If Alvarez wants Bohl, he may have to convince the others on his staff/boosters to look past the label, because Bohl's system can definitely succeed in the B1G.

[NDSUstudent]

Wisconsin hires Utah State HC Gary Andersen

[KSBisonFan]

The only supposed knock on Bohl is the "FCS or I-AA label". He has learned how the build a coaching staff, recruit players, and execute a system that is able to stop all the gimicky offenses, and play balanced on offense. Bohl is looking for the right fit, Wisconsin is the right fit (whether they know it yet or not). If Alvarez wants Bohl, he may have to convince the others on his staff/boosters to look past the label, because Bohl's system can definitely succeed in the B1G.

Another knock on Bohl is he's been too damn busy coaching football to find time to interview the last 3 years.

[tony]

Another knock on Bohl is he's been too damn busy coaching football to find time to interview the last 3 years.

Don't forget the recruiting.

No doubt - nobody is outworking NDSU's coaching staff.

[imabison]

The only supposed knock on Bohl is the "FCS or I-AA label". He has learned how the build a coaching staff, recruit players, and execute a system that is able to stop all the gimicky offenses, and play balanced on offense. Bohl is looking for the right fit, Wisconsin is the right fit (whether they know it yet or not). If Alvarez wants Bohl, he may have to convince the others on his staff/boosters to look past the label, because Bohl's system can definitely succeed in the B1G.

Several years ago when the MN job was open and Bohl interviewed with Maturi there was a WDAY interview with Maturi after the fact where
Maturi told Halstrom people at NDSU have NO IDEA how happy Bohl is to be in Fargo.

What makes anyone think that things have changed and he is actually looking???

[NDSUstudent]

WIU hires UMD coach Bob Nielson

[NDSUstudent]

Tuberville dines and dashes on Texas Tech...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTkOlmmC0pM&list=UU4G3lPPWm6qtoWtRk4vyGwg&index=3

[KSBisonFan]

Tuberville dines and dashes on Texas Tech...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTkOlmmC0pM&list=UU4G3lPPWm6qtoWtRk4vyGwg&index=3

I wish I had those 2 minutes back....

[Answer Guy]

I wish I had those 2 minutes back....

That's what Mrs. KSBison Fan says?

[Tatanka]

That's what Mrs. KSBison Fan says?After TAB visits four consecutive times, yes.

[badger04]

Eastern Washington may be going to Utah St,
http://www.macon.com/2012/12/19/2290927/utah-state-may-consider-eastern.html

[THEsocalledfan]

Craziest part of all this insanity* about Bohl is can there be a better FCS job than this? On top of that, he has managed to put together a coaching staff that has very little attrition and many of whom probably also want to be in Fargo.







*The insanity is Wisconsin never even seeming interested in him.

[mebisonII]

Craziest part of all this insanity* about Bohl is can there be a better FCS job than this? On top of that, he has managed to put together a coaching staff that has very little attrition and many of whom probably also want to be in Fargo.







*The insanity is Wisconsin never even seeming interested in him.

No. Only way we loose Bohl to another FCS program is if we fire him.

[mebisonII]

Andersen personally called each player on the Utah St. team to let them know he was leaving:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/gary-andersen-reportedly-calls-every-one-utah-state-212453223--ncaaf.html


Kind of the anti-Tuberville*.


*although I agree with the poster who said their may be NCAA reasons for Tuberville not rejoining the recruiting dinner, ie "hey guys, so I just took a job in Cincinnati, how do you feel about coming to take a look at my new program?" Nonetheless, the simple solution for Tuberville would have been to turn off his phone during the dinner, since he probably expected a call sometime soon.

[td577]

I think someone will come along at the right time to offer a job Bohl can't refuse. He will be 55 next season so retirement has to become planned at some point. If he stays through the end here, he can pull an Alvarez or many like him and step up to ad until the end. Otherwise, he could land a position that pays him millions over a guaranteed contract or guaranteed buyout which will set his children up forever.

The other thing about moving up is that he needed 5 years to build Ndsu to where it is at. Will a fbs program have that patience. Looking back it seems like a short time but in the moment it feels like forever. I would think any step up would be his last step with the support to do it his way. Here he makes decent money and runs a program exactly how he wants to with college and community support. He knows he was given a pass for one bad season when he didn't have a ring, so he knows everything would have to monstrously fall apart to unhinge job security here.

For some of the reasons above, I can't see the Mac. Either a bcs school with some patience comes calling or he stays where he is more than welcome.


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[THEsocalledfan]

I think someone will come along at the right time to offer a job Bohl can't refuse. He will be 55 next season so retirement has to become planned at some point. If he stays through the end here, he can pull an Alvarez or many like him and step up to ad until the end. Otherwise, he could land a position that pays him millions over a guaranteed contract or guaranteed buyout which will set his children up forever.

The other thing about moving up is that he needed 5 years to build Ndsu to where it is at. Will a fbs program have that patience. Looking back it seems like a short time but in the moment it feels like forever. I would think any step up would be his last step with the support to do it his way. Here he makes decent money and runs a program exactly how he wants to with college and community support. He knows he was given a pass for one bad season when he didn't have a ring, so he knows everything would have to monstrously fall apart to unhinge job security here.

For some of the reasons above, I can't see the Mac. Either a bcs school with some patience comes calling or he stays where he is more than welcome.


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This is about exactly where my opinion has landed. We have gone from him taking at BCS job, to probably only considering the "right" BCS job and there is probably very few that fit that bill (I do think there are other issues beyond patience, too, to make it the right job.) Think about it; he has the opportunity to be to NDSU what Bill Snyder is to Kansas State if he wants to keep coaching into the future and continues this level of success. I am not sure he thinks about it in an egocentric way, but it has to be kind of cool knowing that and how much he is appreciated.

Dare I say, and risk the wrath of TAB, he could be bigger to NDSU football than even Rocky Hager?

[mebisonII]

Or, who knows....he recruits a bad QB, we loose our DC to a HC position, have a couple more 3-8 seasons, and chase him down the road with pitchforks. ;)

[EndZoneQB]

I think someone will come along at the right time to offer a job Bohl can't refuse. He will be 55 next season so retirement has to become planned at some point. If he stays through the end here, he can pull an Alvarez or many like him and step up to ad until the end. Otherwise, he could land a position that pays him millions over a guaranteed contract or guaranteed buyout which will set his children up forever.

The other thing about moving up is that he needed 5 years to build Ndsu to where it is at. Will a fbs program have that patience. Looking back it seems like a short time but in the moment it feels like forever. I would think any step up would be his last step with the support to do it his way. Here he makes decent money and runs a program exactly how he wants to with college and community support. He knows he was given a pass for one bad season when he didn't have a ring, so he knows everything would have to monstrously fall apart to unhinge job security here.

For some of the reasons above, I can't see the Mac. Either a bcs school with some patience comes calling or he stays where he is more than welcome.


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He already made tons of money at Nebraska being a DC...think about it. I guarantee his retirement is more than taken care of at this point. He owns his own plane for cripes sake. I don't think he needs that big "pay day" and probably enjoys just being the king of the hill. He won't have the advantages at many places like he does here....

[NDSUstudent]

Utah State promotes Offensive Coordinator Matt Wells to Head Coach. Only vacant FBS job is Florida International.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8766387/matt-wells-coach-utah-state-aggies-replace-gary-andersen-sources

[THEsocalledfan]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Skc_MiFdts0/TR4Z-dFAuPI/AAAAAAAABLs/k2SEAs64pts/s1600/neo-dodges-bullets.jpg

[IndyBison]

He already made tons of money at Nebraska being a DC...think about it. I guarantee his retirement is more than taken care of at this point. He owns his own plane for cripes sake. I don't think he needs that big "pay day" and probably enjoys just being the king of the hill. He won't have the advantages at many places like he does here....
It doesn't matter how much money you have, someone else has more and you envy what he has. It's not right but it's human nature. I saw an interview with Ted Turner one time and despite the fact he was making millions, he had friends making more so he had to make more. He admitted at that point it was a numbers game and definitely didn't need the money other than to have a bigger number.

[NDSUstudent]

Wow Delaware fires head coach KC Keeler. Keeler led to the Blue Hens to one title and two runner-up finishes......

http://www.bluehens.com/teams/football/stories/2013/january/010713a.html

[Tatanka]

Have to believe klieman starts getting looks right about meow... :hide:

[Hammersmith]

Have to believe klieman starts getting looks right about meow... :hide:
I'm going to go out on a small limb and predict Klieman will be here for at least another two years, probably three. He just uprooted his family to come here, and he's got a son in 9th grade right now(he's one of the kids down on the sidelines in MVFC gear most pre-games). I'm not sure if there are younger or older siblings, but I would expect Klieman would like to see him stay in one high school if at all possible. That gives us two years with him as DC. He could take a HC or FBS/NFL job for the third year and leave his family behind for a half year to let his son finish school here before they join him. But this is all just guesswork with absolutely no inside information to back it up. I really think we have our top-three coaches locked for two or three years(Bohl/Klieman/Vigen). It's Polasek that I'm most worried about.

[BadlandsBison]

I'm going to go out on a small limb and predict Klieman will be here for at least another two years, probably three. He just uprooted his family to come here, and he's got a son in 9th grade right now(he's one of the kids down on the sidelines in MVFC gear most pre-games). I'm not sure if there are younger or older siblings, but I would expect Klieman would like to see him stay in one high school if at all possible. That gives us two years with him as DC. He could take a HC or FBS/NFL job for the third year and leave his family behind for a half year to let his son finish school here before they join him. But this is all just guesswork with absolutely no inside information to back it up. I really think we have our top-three coaches locked for two or three years(Bohl/Klieman/Vigen). It's Polasek that I'm most worried about.

Sounds about right. I'm sure he would've wanted to stay at uni longer if the situation had been friendlier.

But who knows, there are a lot of new coaches at the next level looking for assistant coaches

[Grizzled]

These coaches are as competitive as the players. If the right position comes calling, anyone of them would be gone. Programs are taking notice how good some of our young coaches are. Klieman would be a nice DC. Polosek, Cooper and Fuchs aren't going to be position coaches for ever, yet in coaching, yur only a hot commodity as long your wanted. Wait to long and your opportunity may be gone.

[Herd Mentality]

Hazelton to Nevada as Defensive Coordinator....anyone else hear that rumor?

[unbison]

Hazelton to Nevada as Defensive Coordinator....anyone else hear that rumor?
have now :)

[stevdock]

Hazelton to Nevada as Defensive Coordinator....anyone else hear that rumor?

If that happens sounds like a good potential stepping stone for Hazelton. Nevada's last two DC's were there for 1 and 2 years before moving on to BCS schools as their DC's.

[NorthernBison]

North Dakota looking for a new OC and TE coach. That's the one part of their team that clicked last season.

[Bison Dan]

North Dakota looking for a new OC and TE coach. That's the one part of their team that clicked last season.Rats jumping ship?

[NDSUstudent]

North Dakota looking for a new OC and TE coach. That's the one part of their team that clicked last season.

Must have been tired of shoveling snow...

[aces1180]

Must have been tired of shoveling snow...

I like how some people on SS.com think its a great character/team building exercise. I don't know about you, but if I were a recruit and saw that (even knowing that the IPF is coming soon), I wouldn't give it another look. I wonder how many times the hockey team has had to clean the ice to practice?

[unbison]

Wonder if its posturing to get their donations a lil higher

[Bison Dan]

After a nation wide search the new OC and DC for the who are "drum roll" 2 existing coaches on the staff. I wonder if they got any applications at all? Would love to have the media ask that question.....

[Mr. Burgundy]

After a nation wide search the new OC and DC for the who are "drum roll" 2 existing coaches on the staff. I wonder if they got any applications at all? Would love to have the media ask that question.....

Grand Forks Herald doesn't have media, they have fans.

[tony]

Grand Forks Herald doesn't have media, they have fans.

I disagree somewhat. When the Herald "reports" on UND, they act like they are UND's PR department. When they cover NDSU, they are slightly less objective and fair than the average UND fan (they are more on the Rob Port/Star2city/completebuffoon level of fandom.)

The difference between a PR department and fandom is that the PR department never sees anything wrong. Even the most ardent fan will be critical from time to time.

[Bison"FANatic"]

I wonder if having a NDSU grad in charge of the Herald now will make a difference.

[aces1180]

I wonder if having a NDSU grad in charge of the Herald now will make a difference.

He just left Bemidji...He is a good news man...However, that doesn't change the fact that most of the Herald's reporters have it out for NDSU, so I don't expect much to change.

[Bison"FANatic"]

He just left Bemidji...He is a good news man...However, that doesn't change the fact that most of the Herald's reporters have it out for NDSU, so I don't expect much to change.

ya I don't think even Steve can straighten those guys out but he will do a very good job up there, maybe bend them a little.

[GOB1SON]

He just left Bemidji...He is a good news man...However, that doesn't change the fact that most of the Herald's reporters have it out for NDSU, so I don't expect much to change.

According to this board, every reporter, whether it be from the Herald, the Forum, USA Today, The New York Times, or the Benson County Farmers Press has it out for NDSU. As my three year old would say, "That's redicurous".

[IndyBison]

According to this board, every reporter, whether it be from the Herald, the Forum, USA Today, The New York Times, or the Benson County Farmers Press has it out for NDSU. As my three year old would say, "That's redicurous".

It's a given that most fans of most teams feel all media is out to get them, not giving them enough respect, not covering them enough. Here IU and Purdue fans accuse the local media of favoring the other school more than their school. It's human nature and you can't change it. You can only hope to recognize it when you are doing it.

We had a game once where a coach complained we had called 8 holding penalties on his team and only 2 on the other team. We don't count during the game and don't really care what the numbers are. We do keep a penalty card though and review it after the game. In this one his team had 4 holding penalties and the other had 3. It was nowhere near the disparity he perceived.

[BlueBisonRock]

According to this board, every reporter, whether it be from the Herald, the Forum, USA Today, The New York Times, or the Benson County Farmers Press has it out for NDSU. As my three year old would say, "That's redicurous".

Next thing ya know, you will be telling us that the Wells County Free Press is anti Bison!


leaving off the /purple though there are many who will not recognize the sarcasm

[IzzyFlexion]

According to this board, every reporter, whether it be from the Herald, the Forum, USA Today, The New York Times, or the Benson County Farmers Press has it out for NDSU. As my three year old would say, "That's redicurous".

Your assignment for the weekend..................read the "Good God, the Forum is a Shitty Newspaper" thread.

Lots of things to review in there that are far too real to be put into the "oh, quit being so paranoid you silly Bison fans" category. But maybe that's just me.............

[TransAmBison]

According to this board, every reporter, whether it be from the Herald, the Forum, USA Today, The New York Times, or the Benson County Farmers Press has it out for NDSU. As my three year old would say, "That's redicurous".There is truth in what you say...but there is some credibility in what others have said as well. I grew up (ok, I got older) where teh Herald was the primary newspaper. The slant against the Bison was terrible. I also had to see Pat Sweeney for sports. Turrible. Just turrible.

[BisonTeacher]

We had a game once where a coach complained we had called 8 holding penalties on his team and only 2 on the other team. We don't count during the game and don't really care what the numbers are. We do keep a penalty card though and review it after the game. In this one his team had 4 holding penalties and the other had 3. It was nowhere near the disparity he perceived.

One of my biggest pet peeves as a coach is when Im asking a referee about a foul, and their reply is... "coach, the fouls/penalties are even right now." Just because they are calling an even game doesn't mean they are calling a GOOD game. If either team is committing more fouls or penalties than the other and the ref says they are calling an even game...they are admitting they are calling a bad game IMO. This seems to occur more in basketball I think than any other sport but I could be wrong.

[IndyBison]

One of my biggest pet peeves as a coach is when Im asking a referee about a foul, and their reply is... "coach, the fouls/penalties are even right now." Just because they are calling an even game doesn't mean they are calling a GOOD game. If either team is committing more fouls or penalties than the other and the ref says they are calling an even game...they are admitting they are calling a bad game IMO. This seems to occur more in basketball I think than any other sport but I could be wrong.

I agree. The goal isn't to have the same number of fouls for each team. It's to have the right number of fouls for each team. I could see that answer in the context of a coach saying one team is getting a lot more calls than the other and pointing out the fouls are even (correct his misperception). We often hear coaches or players say "call it both ways". That can be dangerous because it implies you are cheating his team and that is something that can't be allowed.

In football you'll see more procedural stuff (I.e. false starts, illegal formation, or encroachments) from poorly coached or undisciplined teams. You'll see more illegal blocks (holding, block in the back, illegal block below the waist) on weaker teams because they usually result when a blocker gets beat. Combine a weaker, undisciplined team and the foul disparity is usually big.

[BisonTeacher]

I agree. The goal isn't to have the same number of fouls for each team. It's to have the right number of fouls for each team. I could see that answer in the context of a coach saying one team is getting a lot more calls than the other and pointing out the fouls are even (correct his misperception). We often hear coaches or players say "call it both ways". That can be dangerous because it implies you are cheating his team and that is something that can't be allowed.

Agreed. Having said that...my experience with referees is that few of them think that way. Granted I am on the coaching side and may see things from a different perspective. If I say call it both ways, I mean if they are calling that foul on my player, you better call it when the other teams player commits the same foul.

Another example is a strike zone. Every ump thinks their zone is by the book. In reality, its not. Every ump has a different one. And I'm fine with that as long as they call the same strike for both teams.

[IndyBison]

Agreed. Having said that...my experience with referees is that few of them think that way. Granted I am on the coaching side and may see things from a different perspective. If I say call it both ways, I mean if they are calling that foul on my player, you better call it when the other teams player commits the same foul.

Another example is a strike zone. Every ump thinks their zone is by the book. In reality, its not. Every ump has a different one. And I'm fine with that as long as they call the same strike for both teams.

Two things to keep in mind...any officiating at the high school level and below is going to be sporadic. You might have someone who has heard what to say and what not say but hasn't learned yet when or how to say it. Plus what looks like the same thing to you may be very different things to an official. Plus he may not have had the same view of both.

I would be careful saying "call it both ways" because you are directly implying he saw it the same both ways but chose to ignore it. And by doing that you saying he is directly cheating you. Some guys are more sensitive than others and consider that an automatic T or unsportsmanlike conduct foul. A better question is "why is that not a foul?" Or if there is time for a discussion "what was the difference in those two calls?" If you just want to vent or show your team you are supporting them use "I think you missed one" or "that has to be a foul."

I'm OK if a coach thinks I'm a bad official or I missed a call. That's his opinion and I understand it. But don't question my integrity and say I'm cheating. That's why I'm glad Ed Rush resigned. His comments were way out of line even if he was joking. He created a legitimate concern about the integrity of his staff by putting that out there.

[BisonTeacher]

Two things to keep in mind...any officiating at the high school level and below is going to be sporadic. You might have someone who has heard what to say and what not say but hasn't learned yet when or how to say it. Plus what looks like the same thing to you may be very different things to an official. Plus he may not have had the same view of both.

I would be careful saying "call it both ways" because you are directly implying he saw it the same both ways but chose to ignore it. And by doing that you saying he is directly cheating you. Some guys are more sensitive than others and consider that an automatic T or unsportsmanlike conduct foul. A better question is "why is that not a foul?" Or if there is time for a discussion "what was the difference in those two calls?" If you just want to vent or show your team you are supporting them use "I think you missed one" or "that has to be a foul."

I'm OK if a coach thinks I'm a bad official or I missed a call. That's his opinion and I understand it. But don't question my integrity and say I'm cheating. That's why I'm glad Ed Rush resigned. His comments were way out of line even if he was joking. He created a legitimate concern about the integrity of his staff by putting that out there.

I always try to keep in mind that my perspective is different from theirs. And as you put it...we don't always get the best of the best. We usually get what we can get when it comes to officiating.

Total sport drift here from basketball, but I coached High School softball for 9 years. It's is a different animal in that most umps refuse to enforce pitching regulations because they don't want to be that guy. What always rubbed me the wrong way about the issue was they make coaches attend rules interpretation meeting. and if we did not attend the school was penalized in some way. During these meetings we would discuss the pitching regulations. It always bothered me that they would make me go to the meetings to learn the rules, then not enforce them when I asked about them. I guess I don't know if its like that in HS baseball but in softball, pitching seems to be the thing they just let go.

[unbison]

There is truth in what you say...but there is some credibility in what others have said as well. I grew up (ok, I got older) where teh Herald was the primary newspaper. The slant against the Bison was terrible. I also had to see Pat Sweeney for sports. Turrible. Just turrible.
i agree growing up north bison were hated........do you remember a sports guy......i think his name was rorey hents..........he used to say very annoyingly.......tickles the twine from 19-9

[gotts]

i agree growing up north bison were hated........do you remember a sports guy......i think his name was rorey hents..........he used to say very annoyingly.......tickles the twine from 19-9

You can now look him up in the flooring department at your Bismarck Lowe's and ballin' in the Bismarck recreational basketball leagues...