Discussion...........fcs games today

[BisonTeacher]

Looks like montana at the siouxsies is on channel 239 directv. Any other fcs games on today?

[WYOBISONMAN]

http://lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm

That URL will tell you what you want to know,.............

[bri-dog]

UNH just beat Maine 28-21; James Madison @ Richmond is on DirecTv channel 642 at the bottom of the hour...

[BisonTeacher]

http://lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm

That URL will tell you what you want to know,.............

Thanks Wyo...I forgot about that site. If you want to change the name of the thread to Talk about FCS games or something else go ahead.

[GRAFTONBISON]

Just saw Tennessee St. hit a field goal to win the game at the end of regulation, but they had a false start penalty. Proceeded to miss the second attempt. Ouch!!! Overtime against Jacksonville St.

[GRAFTONBISON]

Illinois St. losing to Missouri St. 9-7 at halftime.

[BisonTeacher]

Just saw Tennessee St. hit a field goal to win the game at the end of regulation, but they had a false start penalty. Proceeded to miss the second attempt. Ouch!!! Overtime against Jacksonville St.

How frickin sad is it that the undies are on directv free..in hd. But the fcs reigning champs will be on a crappy webstream?

[bri-dog]

How frickin sad is it that the undies are on directv free..in hd. But the fcs reigning champs will be on a crappy webstream?

And their defense hasn't given up any points yet.:biggrin:

[WYOBISONMAN]

How frickin sad is it that the undies are on directv free..in hd. But the fcs reigning champs will be on a crappy webstream?

Thanks to NDSU having a horseshit TV contract......it sucks. Root does a great job on these games. So far it looks first class.

[GRAFTONBISON]

How frickin sad is it that the undies are on directv free..in hd. But the fcs reigning champs will be on a crappy webstream?

Come on over, we have Midco. :)

[BisonTeacher]

Come on over, we have Midco. :)

Ok...let me rephrase....i meant for thosebof us out of state. Right wyo?

[jimmyptubas]

How frickin sad is it that the undies are on directv free..in hd. But the fcs reigning champs will be on a crappy webstream?

It is sad but i'm going to watch it. Just got done watching the gophers game and I work at five so it will mean listening to NDSU tonight.

[GRAFTONBISON]

Ok...let me rephrase....i meant for thosebof us out of state. Right wyo?

Just giving you some shit. I live 40 minutes away from GF and don't have the option of watching the Susies today on Midco. Not that I would anyway.

[Honeybooboo]

How frickin sad is it that the undies are on directv free..in hd. But the fcs reigning champs will be on a crappy webstream?

Well Midco can hold this over cableone and dish subscribers in Fargo also, no reason they couldn't have sold the rights.

But remember had UND not been playing Montana they old NOT be on tv

[WYOBISONMAN]

Ok...let me rephrase....i meant for thosebof us out of state. Right wyo?

Yes. Our media people have to do better. Just watch this professional pre-game. It puts our stuff to shit.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Just giving you some shit. I live 40 minutes away from GF and don't have the option of watching the Susies today on Midco. Not that I would anyway.

I think it will be pretty entertaining. Neither team has much for defense, so there will be a lot of offense. I am pulling for the Griz, but expect UND to win.

[GRAFTONBISON]

I think it will be pretty entertaining. Neither team has much for defense, so there will be a lot of offense. I am pulling for the Griz, but expect UND to win.

Sorry, I am not one to want to watch a good train wreck. :biggrin:

[Honeybooboo]

Yes. Our media people have to do better. Just watch this professional pre-game. It puts our stuff to shit.

Conference needs to help also,

CAA and IVY league are on NBC networks every weekend

[BisonTeacher]

Thanks to NDSU having a horseshit TV contract......it sucks. Root does a great job on these games. So far it looks first class.

Really nice picture. except for all the UND logos. :biggrin:

[GRAFTONBISON]

Just saw Tennessee St. hit a field goal to win the game at the end of regulation, but they had a false start penalty. Proceeded to miss the second attempt. Ouch!!! Overtime against Jacksonville St.

Tennessee St. lost in overtime.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Conference needs to help also,

CAA and IVY league are on NBC networks every weekend

I agree......

[WYOBISONMAN]

Pretty poor D by the Griz....

[WYOBISONMAN]

Meltdown starting over on Egriz.......

[Honeybooboo]

Defense is optional in the Fluffy

[WYOBISONMAN]

Defense is optional in the Fluffy

I see a pretty high score coming.

[Honeybooboo]

Jack Micheals sounds like Kermit the Frog when he gets excited......wow is he an annoying announcer

[WYOBISONMAN]

Or....maybe the Griz get pounded by the newcomers. 2 sacks sure put an end to that drive by Montana.

[BisonTeacher]

Mont makin undies look good.

[WYOBISONMAN]

I think that kid that is UND's QB is pretty decent.

[Bisonguy]

If only there was a way for both of these teams to lose.

[WYOBISONMAN]

If only there was a way for both of these teams to lose.

LOL.......if it is any consolations the meltdown on Egriz is pretty funny......

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59586&start=75

[jimmyptubas]

I can't believe how nice this game looks in hd. We need to have a game broadcast with these kind of production values.

[Honeybooboo]

I can't believe how nice this game looks in hd. We need to have a game broadcast with these kind of production values.

ESPN looked pretty good!!

[SamsRams]

Harvard gonna lose

[bri-dog]

I liked that "scenic" shot of Grand Forks. A freight train...

[GRAFTONBISON]

Harvard gonna lose

Princeton scores 29 4th quarter points to stun Harvard 39-34.

[jimmyptubas]

Quite the play by Montana. New only a 3 point game.

[bri-dog]

They wanted people to send a text to show where you're watching from that they're going to show. I wonder if they'll show mine. Probably shouldn't have written "go Bison!!!"

[GRAFTONBISON]

Illinois St. down 19-14 to Missouri St. About 2.5 minutes left.

YSU leads SIU 7-3 in first quarter

[bri-dog]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a safety play worse than #12 for the Griz...

[BisoninNWMN]

Wow...Missouri State up 24-14 over Ill State

[WYOBISONMAN]

The Griz are absolutely horrid.

[jimmyptubas]

Wow...Missouri State up 24-14 over Ill State

This game is final now. That's a huge win for Missouri state big loss for Illinois state.

[BisoninNWMN]

This game is final now. That's a huge win for Missouri state big loss for Illinois state.


Yes it is.

[TransAmBison]

Listening to the whioux/griz game...I swear teh griz are only playing with 3 guys on defense...and those three are easily distracted.

[BisoninNWMN]

Holy SH**

UND's QB is over 400 yds passing and it is still the 1st half....Grizz defense is crap.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Holy SH**

UND's QB is over 400 yds passing and it is still the 1st half....Grizz defense is crap.

Absolutely no secondary. UND ought to throw every play.

[Bisonguy]

Holy SH**

UND's QB is over 400 yds passing and it is still the 1st half....Grizz defense is crap.

Yeah, Griz really suck but they've pretty much proven that with their 3-4 record and only having wins against probably the worst MVFC team, the worst or second to worst Big Fluffy team, and something called the Flames.

[bri-dog]

Absolutely no secondary. UND ought to throw every play.


Absolutely no secondary. UND ought to throw every play.

You can say that again...

[BisoninNWMN]

Over on egrizz, some of those homers thought this UND game would be a springboard for them to make the playoffs at 7-4. I guess it is still possible but their pass defense is horrible.

[BisoninNWMN]

UNI up 7-0 on the Jacks.


Youngstown up 21-10 on SIU

[WYOBISONMAN]

UNI up 7-0 on the Jacks.

It would be fun to see the Jacks hammer on Farley.

[BisoninNWMN]

It would be fun to see the Jacks hammer on Farley.


Mixed bag for me.....Farley is an a**hole but Jacks getting a conference loss today would be good!

[BisoninNWMN]

Pretty funning reading over on egrizz....last year, esp after the UNI playoff game, Hermansonn was the best saftey in all of FCS according to them and now they are ready to hang him......LOL

[perthbison]

...I swear teh griz are only playing with 3 guys on defense...and those three are easily distracted.The distraction is that they're checking out the cheerleaders and other females present and thinking about testing the law enforcement in this town tonite.:biggrin:

[GRAFTONBISON]

JMU losing to Richmond 22-10 in the 3rd quarter
Wofford leading App. St. 17-14 in the 3rd quarter

[WYOBISONMAN]

Pretty funning reading over on egrizz....last year, esp after the UNI playoff game, Hermansonn was the best saftey in all of FCS according to them and now they are ready to hang him......LOL

Total meldown over there.......so far one of my favorite quotes from Egriz is this one.......



The Rape Task Force should be interviewing the secondary during halftime.

[jimmyptubas]

I think we need the jacks to lose. Uni is already done this year so despite our dislike for the team, we need everyone in the conference to match our one loss.

[BisonTeacher]

The distraction is that they're checking out the cheerleaders and other females present and thinking about testing the law enforcement in this town tonite.:biggrin:

My wife (A former bison cheerleader) was criticizing the cheerleaders wearing polos. Do they think this is a golf outing?

[BisoninNWMN]

UNI up 13-3 on the Jacks in the 2nd.

[TransAmBison]

whioux radio announcers are so incredibly biased...it is sickening. I thought Schultz was a homer, but this is terrible. Griz get a first down, and the announcer has to say, "Well, they got the first down because of penalty. (Yeah, it was a penalty on teh whioux). Then the Griz score, and the announcer says he thinks the ball hit the turf. He says it is called a td, but he still thinks the ball hit the turf. (This must be a toe to toe kind of thing)

[Putz]

Holy SH**

UND's QB is over 400 yds passing and it is still the 1st half....Grizz defense is crap.

Are you sure it isn't the crazy speed of the offense causing the trouble for the griz? (Sorry can't do purple text from my phone;)

[GRAFTONBISON]

Richmond now leading JMU 28-10

[BisonTeacher]

Go SPiders!!!! That was the one game I wish I could watch today. I didnt think JMU was that good last year, and even before today thought they were overrated. Thanks for the update Ed.

[aces1180]

whioux radio announcers are so incredibly biased...it is sickening. I thought Schultz was a homer, but this is terrible. Griz get a first down, and the announcer has to say, "Well, they got the first down because of penalty. (Yeah, it was a penalty on teh whioux). Then the Griz score, and the announcer says he thinks the ball hit the turf. He says it is called a td, but he still thinks the ball hit the turf. (This must be a toe to toe kind of thing)

I know its a paying gig and all, but the day that Jack Michaels (a Bison grad) signed on with UND, he lost his credibility with me.

[Putz]

Have to say that I am jealous of the quality of the Griz game. My favorite part today is when the griz punter got off a real nice punt and the announcers had to explain that if the ball hits the rafters, it is a live ball!

[aces1180]

Have to say that I am jealous of the quality of the Griz game. My favorite part today is when the griz punter got off a real nice punt and the announcers had to explain that if the ball hits the rafters, it is a live ball!

Eh, we get better quality with the ESPN coverage in the playoffs. ;)

[WYOBISONMAN]

Have to say that I am jealous of the quality of the Griz game. My favorite part today is when the griz punter got off a real nice punt and the announcers had to explain that if the ball hits the rafters, it is a live ball!

That is "The Tin Shed Factor"...............

[GRAFTONBISON]

Go SPiders!!!! That was the one game I wish I could watch today. I didnt think JMU was that good last year, and even before today thought they were overrated. Thanks for the update Ed.

28-16 Richmond starting the 4th quarter

[aces1180]

LOL...Griz take a 34-31 lead in the 3rd.

[bri-dog]

Looked like Montana caught a big break there, then takes the lead!

EDIT: After another replay, looks like a good call to me.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Looked like Montana caught a big break there, then takes the lead!

Folks........two shitty teams can be kinda fun to watch. UND started going conservative......stupid move.

[GRAFTONBISON]

Folks........two shitty teams can be kinda fun to watch. UND started going conservative......stupid move.

In Muss we trust

[aces1180]

Folks........two shitty teams can be kinda fun to watch. UND started going conservative......stupid move.

Agreed...I have my 3-year old daughter cheering against UND...Its fun!

[BisonTeacher]

Go Griz!!!!!

[WYOBISONMAN]

That new Griz QB may be the future in Missoula.......

[BisonTeacher]

Didnt know there was alcohol in the Alerus!

[KTF]

so how do I watch the UND game online?

[Bisonguy]

so how do I watch the UND game online?

Root sports. That's the only way. No internets. And people make fun of our media.

[semobison]

End of 3rd, SIU leads YSU 24-31.

[BisonTeacher]

Anyone else just lose the feed on the UNDies game? All I have now is a Directv logo.

[WYOBISONMAN]

Root sports. That's the only way. No internets. And people make fun of our media.

I think all Big Sky games are streamed for free on Big Sky TV......on the conference web site. And I shall continue to bitch about our media.

[Bisonguy]

End of 3rd, SIU leads YSU 24-31.

NDSU's loss to YSU keeps looking worse and worse each week. I don't think the MVFC standings will look remotely close to what anyone predicted at the beginning of the season. Maybe NDSU, SDSU, and InSU in the playoffs?

[WYOBISONMAN]

Anyone else just lose the feed on the UNDies game? All I have now is a Directv logo.

I still have it............

[Bisonguy]

I think all Big Sky games are streamed for free on Big Sky TV......on the conference web site. And I shall continue to bitch about our media.

Not if they're on root sports.

[Bisonguy]

I think all Big Sky games are streamed for free on Big Sky TV......on the conference web site. And I shall continue to bitch about our media.


The conference's media sucks. NDSU's is about as good as it gets in the FCS for a single school.

[BisonTeacher]

I still have it............

False alarm. Just a commercial i think. Also...that JMU game is on first row sports. thanks again Grafton!!!

EDIT...I have met so many cool people here on Bisonville!!! But not grafton...he's a jerk.

[aces1180]

UND was driving...Hansen threw an INT.

[semobison]

SIU leads the Guins 31-21, 4th qtr. Got TD's from a blocked punt and a fumble recovery. Salulis are gonna be 4-1 in conference play coming to Fargo next week.

[aces1180]

Wow...UND scores a TD with :12 seconds left...UND 40-Mont 34. UND QB and WR break Big Sky records for passing and receiving.

[aces1180]

UNI is pumping SDSU...24-6.

[Bison"FANatic"]

UNI is pumping SDSU...24-6.

It is mid season about the usual time the wheels fall off in Brookings

[1998braves64]

NDSU's loss to YSU keeps looking worse and worse each week. I don't think the MVFC standings will look remotely close to what anyone predicted at the beginning of the season. Maybe NDSU, SDSU, and InSU in the playoffs?

NDSU beat YSU... are you meaning InSU?

[Bisonguy]

NDSU beat YSU... are you meaning InSU?

LOL. Yeah, I'm messing up my years.

[taper]

Have to say that I am jealous of the quality of the Griz game. My favorite part today is when the griz punter got off a real nice punt and the announcers had to explain that if the ball hits the rafters, it is a live ball!

In warmups for the 2001 Bison/Sioux game our kicker was pounding them straight up and making some nice dents. Also saw a game(not us) where they forgot to put up the field goal nets. Cratered the wall.

[loudsilverado]

In warmups for the 2001 Bison/Sioux game our kicker was pounding them straight up and making some nice dents. Also saw a game(not us) where they forgot to put up the field goal nets. Cratered the wall.

Name of Punter that did that? I remember the warm ups, hilarious! The Al is a dump!!

[aces1180]

Name of Punter that did that? I remember the warm ups, hilarious! The Al is a dump!!

Aaron Peterson from SF.

[loudsilverado]

Aaron Peterson from SF.

Didn't the roof cave in before it was completed also?

[loudsilverado]

I vaguely remember the roof collapsing, I could be wrong. They had naming issues too. It looked like shit on TV. Anyone else notice the turf was wrinkled and you could see seams all over? Gives new meaning to "turf monster", they looked like waves. I wonder what attendance was.

[aces1180]

I vaguely remember the roof collapsing, I could be wrong. They had naming issues too. It looked like shit on TV. Anyone else notice the turf was wrinkled and you could see seams all over? Gives new meaning to "turf monster", they looked like waves. I wonder what attendance was.

9,296 :rofl:...Pathetic.

[Tatanka]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28709530.jpg

[AjaxTheMighty]

Playoffs? Playoffs? With that _efense?

[Putz]

In warmups for the 2001 Bison/Sioux game our kicker was pounding them straight up and making some nice dents. Also saw a game(not us) where they forgot to put up the field goal nets. Cratered the wall.

Yeah, that's why I thought it was so funny. The word from gay forks after that was that it would never happen during a game.

I noticed the wavy carpet too. Not sure what the issue is there.

[Hammersmith]

9,296 :rofl:...Pathetic.
Couldn't break 10k for Montana? Wow. Their attendance will be up over last year(not hard to do since they were below 8k), but not a single game will crack 10k.

[HerdBot]

Wow...UND scores a TD with :12 seconds left...UND 40-Mont 34. UND QB and WR break Big Sky records for passing and receiving.

so und passes for 660 yards and breaks every record...and still needs a last second td to win. wow. worst defense in football. what would have happened if they don't set record numbers... exciting if you like no defense. i would say offense sells tickets but by the looks of the box score...

[WYOBISONMAN]

so und passes for 660 yards and breaks every record...and still needs a last second td to win. wow. worst defense in football. what would have happened if they don't set record numbers... exciting if you like no defense. i would say offense sells tickets but by the looks of the box score...

I have to say......when you get 2 teams with lousy D playing each other it can be pretty entertaining. But.....Both UND and Montana will be in the bottom 1/3 of the Big Sky this year.

[NorthernBison]

I have to say......when you get 2 teams with lousy D playing each other it can be pretty entertaining. But.....Both UND and Montana will be in the bottom 1/3 of the Big Sky this year.

Some brief thoughts on the game in Grand Forks. We were hunting and got home in time to see the last quarter and a half on TV.

HD signal is the only way to go. Too bad we have every gaeme on TV and no HD.

That game says WAY more about how far Montana has fallen than how far UND has come. I had to laugh at the ROOT announcers. Clearly UM guys because they kept referring to the Griz as "WE". Montana fans have got to be stroking out.

Heard one comment on the radio from the UND color guy. "Hardin against ANYBODY in FCS is advantage UND." I'll let them have their dreams because we won't get to see him "try" against a really good defense.

They have a variety of good receivers who can catch the ball. They are young though because I saw some bad routes. The third pick that Hanson threw was on the receiver. If he goes to the ball, it is a catch. Big time rookie mistake or just lazy. UND CANNOT run the ball.

UND students left in droves at the half. At the end of the game, there MIGHT have been 6,000 fans there. On TV, it looked like you could sit almost anywhere on the one side of the field. Nobody in the upper half and front row seats open out to the 30's.

[IzzyFlexion]

UNI is pumping SDSU...24-6.

And I am pumping myself 24/7.
I realize that was unecessary and added nothing to the conversation.

[aces1180]

so und passes for 660 yards and breaks every record...and still needs a last second td to win. wow. worst defense in football. what would have happened if they don't set record numbers... exciting if you like no defense. i would say offense sells tickets but by the looks of the box score...

Both of those teams would fit in well in the Arena Football League. Or CFL (wait, wrong sport).

[WYOBISONMAN]

Some brief thoughts on the game in Grand Forks. We were hunting and got home in time to see the last quarter and a half on TV.

HD signal is the only way to go. Too bad we have every gaeme on TV and no HD.

That game says WAY more about how far Montana has fallen than how far UND has come. I had to laugh at the ROOT announcers. Clearly UM guys because they kept referring to the Griz as "WE". Montana fans have got to be stroking out.

Heard one comment on the radio from the UND color guy. "Hardin against ANYBODY in FCS is advantage UND." I'll let them have their dreams because we won't get to see him "try" against a really good defense.

They have a variety of good receivers who can catch the ball. They are young though because I saw some bad routes. The third pick that Hanson threw was on the receiver. If he goes to the ball, it is a catch. Big time rookie mistake or just lazy. UND CANNOT run the ball.

UND students left in droves at the half. At the end of the game, there MIGHT have been 6,000 fans there. On TV, it looked like you could sit almost anywhere on the one side of the field. Nobody in the upper half and front row seats open out to the 30's.

Go over and read Egriz.......that program is in shambles. A total mess. Pretty amazing.

[Hambone]

Some brief thoughts on the game in Grand Forks. We were hunting and got home in time to see the last quarter and a half on TV.

HD signal is the only way to go. Too bad we have every gaeme on TV and no HD.

That game says WAY more about how far Montana has fallen than how far UND has come. I had to laugh at the ROOT announcers. Clearly UM guys because they kept referring to the Griz as "WE". Montana fans have got to be stroking out.

Heard one comment on the radio from the UND color guy. "Hardin against ANYBODY in FCS is advantage UND." I'll let them have their dreams because we won't get to see him "try" against a really good defense.

They have a variety of good receivers who can catch the ball. They are young though because I saw some bad routes. The third pick that Hanson threw was on the receiver. If he goes to the ball, it is a catch. Big time rookie mistake or just lazy. UND CANNOT run the ball.

UND students left in droves at the half. At the end of the game, there MIGHT have been 6,000 fans there. On TV, it looked like you could sit almost anywhere on the one side of the field. Nobody in the upper half and front row seats open out to the 30's.

Yeah, that Leon McFadden guy from San Diego State is only the preseason defensive player of the year in the MWC, and was matched up against him most of the night and Hardin only had 142 yards and 3 touchdowns. Yep, complete nobodies he's went against...... :)

EDIT: And yes, I know overall the defenses overall haven't been that good, but it's too bad that for the most part some people can't see talent because they play for a certain team. Hardin's only issue is that he goes stone hands sometimes, and that will likely keep him from making it to Sunday's.

[NorthernBison]

Yeah, that Leon McFadden guy from San Diego State is only the preseason defensive player of the year in the MWC, and was matched up against him most of the night and Hardin only had 142 yards and 3 touchdowns. Yep, complete nobodies he's went against...... :)

Don't be such a prick. I think MWill would give him some fits and Hanson wouldnt have much time to throw if he even survived the game.

Enjoy the win. You now have a "signature" win.

[Hambone]

Don't be such a prick. I think MWill would give him some fits and Hanson wouldnt have much time to throw if he even survived the game.

Enjoy the win. You now have a "signature" win.

Wasn't intending to be a prick. I thought the smiley face showed that. Touchy around here, aren't we? And yes MWill would likely give him some fits, but he's human too, no? Made a few mistakes getting burned here and there in his career?

And no, it's not a signature win. A good win to stop the slide, against a traditional power that is struggling, but not a signature win.

[BisonNation11]

Wasn't intending to be a prick. I thought the smiley face showed that. Touchy around here, aren't we?

Nah, that's just Northern.

[Tatanka]

Heard from a reputable source that the und students got confused and started the "sieve" chant at their own defense. This sounded plausible until I thought about it and the premise presupposes that there were actually students at the game. Please confirm.

[BadlandsBison]

Heard from a reputable source that the und students got confused and started the "sieve" chant at their own defense. This sounded plausible until I thought about it and the premise presupposes that there were actually students at the game. Please confirm.

That's funny on several levels :)

I would also like confirmation on the Alerus escalator functioning

[AjaxTheMighty]

Yeah, that Leon McFadden guy from San Diego State is only the preseason defensive player of the year in the MWC, and was matched up against him most of the night and Hardin only had 142 yards and 3 touchdowns. Yep, complete nobodies he's went against...... :)

EDIT: And yes, I know overall the defenses overall haven't been that good, but it's too bad that for the most part some people can't see talent because they play for a certain team. Hardin's only issue is that he goes stone hands sometimes, and that will likely keep him from making it to Sunday's.

NDSU's defensive line is probably the best in FCS. The corner IS the best. Then put Grant Olson in there. QBS never get too comfy and the DBs don't give up long Passes. NDSU has heard soooo many times in the last few years that our defense would be facing the next big thing. Each time we came out on top, and mostly in a big, loud way. So don't be offended if Bison fans don't give much respect to your squad or individual players. The fact is we are the best in the biz, and there is no reason to believe that any team in the big sky, the Valley, ODU, or anyone could challenge this 'D'. I only see this team getting beat if they shoot themselves in the foot like last week. It could happen again. It's certainly possible.

[thebigund]

NDSU's defensive line is probably the best in FCS. The corner IS the best. Then put Grant Olson in there. QBS never get too comfy and the DBs don't give up long Passes. NDSU has heard soooo many times in the last few years that our defense would be facing the next big thing. Each time we came out on top, and mostly in a big, loud way. So don't be offended if Bison fans don't give much respect to your squad or individual players. The fact is we are the best in the biz, and there is no reason to believe that any team in the big sky, the Valley, ODU, or anyone could challenge this 'D'. I only see this team getting beat if they shoot themselves in the foot like last week. It could happen again. It's certainly possible.
You've yet to play against a receiving corps that goes 6 deep to actually test your pass defense. If Williams shuts down Hardin then who shuts down Jackson and Golladay and Townshend? Our OLine has stood up against all sorts of pressure this year and would give Hanson the short amount of time he needs to get the ball to the play makers.

Would you guys win? Perhaps. But your defense would be stretched to its limits and give up at least 27 points.

I know you guys have had a nice couple of years but don't fly too high, your wings might melt and you'll come back down to earth in a hurry.

[BlueBisonRock]

You've yet to play against a receiving corps that goes 6 deep to actually test your pass defense. If Williams shuts down Hardin then who shuts down Jackson and Golladay and Townshend? Our OLine has stood up against all sorts of pressure this year and would give Hanson the short amount of time he needs to get the ball to the play makers.

Would you guys win? Perhaps. But your defense would be stretched to its limits and give up at least 27 points.

I know you guys have had a nice couple of years but don't fly too high, your wings might melt and you'll come back down to earth in a hurry.

Please come down to the next tailgate and bring that stuff you are smoking to share with the rest of us. Perhaps we could better understand your arguement if we were as impared.

[NorthernBison]

Wasn't intending to be a prick. I thought the smiley face showed that. Touchy around here, aren't we? And yes MWill would likely give him some fits, but he's human too, no? Made a few mistakes getting burned here and there in his career?

And no, it's not a signature win. A good win to stop the slide, against a traditional power that is struggling, but not a signature win.

Sorry, I thought you were despite the smiley face. Using a "pre-season" all-conference player in a "quasi FBS" conference not known for playing pass defense? Really? Save that analysis for the smack section.

FWIW, I've been critical of MWill getting beat and I've been frustrated by the rubes who insist he's NFL material. Time will tell on that one.

The main point I weas trying to make is that your "color guy" must be still in the D2 mode. Does he really think Hardin is a mismatch for ANYBODY in FCS. He needs to get out and see some of the talented defensive players in FCS. I understand that he hasn't been able to see any yet because UND hasn't played a respectable defensive team. There's a bunch of MVFC defenses who have dbacks who wouldn't be intimidated by Hardin or anybody else wearing black. There's also CAA teams that throw the ball as well as anybody in the BSC and the defenses seem to be able to cope.

[KTF]

Looking at the box score, UND threw 64 of the 85 plays againist montana, montana threw 52 out of 85 plays. With that many reps your completion percentage is going to appear to be higher then a team that is more balanced in their offense. I think the true test of who has the better WR's would be if they kept track of the attempts/completions for the WR players(maybe they do). I would put Gebhart, Smith, and Vraa in the same level of completion percentage as Hardin and whoever else is on the UND team.

[thebigund]

Looking at the box score, UND threw 64 of the 85 plays againist montana, montana threw 52 out of 85 plays. With that many reps your completion percentage is going to appear to be higher then a team that is more balanced in their offense. I think the true test of who has the better WR's would be if they kept track of the attempts/completions for the WR players(maybe they do). I would put Gebhart, Smith, and Vraa in the same level of completion percentage as Hardin and whoever else is on the UND team.

They wouldn't see the field for anything other than special teams at UND. Any of our top 5 WRs would start and be NDSUs best WR.

[TransAmBison]

They wouldn't see the field for anything other than special teams at UND. Any of our top 5 WRs would start and be NDSUs best WR.Well duh...you guys have us beat at every position except for possibly one.

[tjbison]

Is it true Mussman said in an interview this was the biggest win in program history?

Really? UMis not good this year

[KSBisonFan]

They wouldn't see the field for anything other than special teams at UND. Any of our top 5 WRs would start and be NDSUs best WR.

Wrong thread, dude. This post belongs in the thread that rhymes with Preposterous Statements....

[thebigund]

Is it true Mussman said in an interview this was the biggest win in program history?

Really? UMis not good this year

No he did not. He called it a good win against an upper echelon program and that its a good win regardless of their record. Being at the game I will say that they are alot more talented than their record will suggest. Bad coaching and that horrendous off season has really screwed them up. They have a bunch of good players but don't believe enough to succeed.

[KTF]

They wouldn't see the field for anything other than special teams at UND. Any of our top 5 WRs would start and be NDSUs best WR.Prove how they wouldn't... Until there is some sort of good quanitative measure of analysis, I will say that Vraa, Smith, and Gebhart are just as good as the UND guys...

[Herd80]

No he did not. He called it a good win against an upper echelon program and that its a good win regardless of their record. Being at the game I will say that they are alot more talented than their record will suggest. Bad coaching and that horrendous off season has really screwed them up. They have a bunch of good players but don't believe enough to succeed.

Hate to do it, but will agree with at least part of this

Was at the game and noticed a few things:

1) Montana's coaching sucks...pretty much all around. Other than some halftime adjustments on offense (that led to 17 pts in 10 minutes), terrible. Especially on the defensive side. Obviously trying to do the same thing over and over...definition of insanity stuff. They cannot be that bad, there has to be major dysfunction running through the program right now

2) Hardin is good. Fast, good hands...good reciever. We would take him. Best in FCS? C'mon man.

3) The QB is damn accurate. I mean, Bomar type accurate. Cannot move at all, but had protection and put it where it needed to be nearly every time he threw it. Could have had 750 yards if the receivers didn't drop a few. They had 410 yds passing at halftime...

4) Both Hardin and the QB looked better because Montana's secondary is probably as bad as you will find in the divison right now. I mean high school bad. Can't cover, can't tackle...truly awful.

Still don't have the bad taste out of my mouth from being there, but family overrules distaste sometimes

[thebigund]

Prove how they wouldn't... Until there is some sort of good quanitative measure of analysis, I will say that Vraa, Smith, and Gebhart are just as good as the UND guys...
48 catches for 943 yards and 12 TDs for Hardin this year. Jackson is nominated for the Rice award and has 41 catches for 577 yards and 6 TDs. Townshend in 1 start had 15 catches for 154 yards and a TD. True FR Golladay has 20 catches for 274 yards and 1 TD and was robbed of a spectacular diving TD catch in the Montana game in which he clearly got a foot in but the refs view was blocked by the DB. These guys are really good.

[thebigund]

Hate to do it, but will agree with at least part of this

Was at the game and noticed a few things:

1) Montana's coaching sucks...pretty much all around. Other than some halftime adjustments on offense (that led to 17 pts in 10 minutes), terrible. Especially on the defensive side. Obviously trying to do the same thing over and over...definition of insanity stuff. They cannot be that bad, there has to be major dysfunction running through the program right now

2) Hardin is good. Fast, good hands...good reciever. We would take him. Best in FCS? C'mon man.

3) The QB is damn accurate. I mean, Bomar type accurate. Cannot move at all, but had protection and put it where it needed to be nearly every time he threw it. Could have had 750 yards if the receivers didn't drop a few. They had 410 yds passing at halftime...

4) Both Hardin and the QB looked better because Montana's secondary is probably as bad as you will find in the divison right now. I mean high school bad. Can't cover, can't tackle...truly awful.

Still don't have the bad taste out of my mouth from being there, but family overrules distaste sometimes

Never said that. He is pretty damn good though, he just needs to be more consistent and gain some weight.

[runtheoption]

Never said that. He is pretty damn good though, he just needs to be more consistent and gain some weight.

This may interfere with teh crazy speed.

[KTF]

48 catches for 943 yards and 12 TDs for Hardin this year. Jackson is nominated for the Rice award and has 41 catches for 577 yards and 6 TDs. Townshend in 1 start had 15 catches for 154 yards and a TD. True FR Golladay has 20 catches for 274 yards and 1 TD and was robbed of a spectacular diving TD catch in the Montana game in which he clearly got a foot in but the refs view was blocked by the DB. These guys are really good.You still have told me nothing. NDSU had 68 plays againist USD of which 23 were passes (33% are pass plays). 6 players caught passes. They were 16/23 (roughly one drop per reciever). NDSU recievers are catching 70% of their passses. UND passed 75%/rushed 25% against montana. HOwever I haven't found what the numbers are for your recievers for completions/attempts.


Yes UND'sWR's are going to put up ungodly numbers in a 75% pass play offense. Just like NDSU backs usually are highly touted because they get the majority of the reps. To me the only way to fully analyze the WR corp is to see what percentage of passes are both teams recievers are completing, "clutch sceanrios", and YAC.

[BlueBisonRock]

They wouldn't see the field for anything other than special teams at UND. Any of our top 5 WRs would start and be NDSUs best WR.

Seriously. What drugs are you taking? Every time I read your posts, I hear this voice sayin' Oh, the colors.

[BisonTeacher]

You still have told me nothing. NDSU had 68 plays againist USD of which 23 were passes (33% are pass plays). 6 players caught passes. They were 16/23 (roughly one drop per reciever). NDSU recievers are catching 70% of their passses. UND passed 75%/rushed 25% against montana. Yes your WR's are going to put up ungodly numbers in that scenario. Just like NDSU backs usually are highly touted because they get the majority of the reps.

To me the only way to fully analyze the WR corp is to see what percentage of passes are both teams recievers are completing, "clutch sceanrios", and YAC?

I think the best way to fully compare the two is on the field in a game. Not trying to start up the "should we play" talk again. My point is...if they did play right now...I think we know what the outcome would be.

[CAS4127]

Does UN_ play MSU this weekend? If so, does MSU have at least a semblance of a defense? If yes, then let's see what sort of numbers the NO-D team puts up. I'll be interested to see that.

[tjbison]

Does UN_ play MSU this weekend? If so, does MSU have at least a semblance of a defense? If yes, then let's see what sort of numbers the NO-D team puts up. I'll be interested to see that.

Lol.......you just asked if a fluffy team has a defense......lol

[Hambone]

Sorry, I thought you were despite the smiley face. Using a "pre-season" all-conference player in a "quasi FBS" conference not known for playing pass defense? Really? Save that analysis for the smack section.

FWIW, I've been critical of MWill getting beat and I've been frustrated by the rubes who insist he's NFL material. Time will tell on that one.

The main point I weas trying to make is that your "color guy" must be still in the D2 mode. Does he really think Hardin is a mismatch for ANYBODY in FCS. He needs to get out and see some of the talented defensive players in FCS. I understand that he hasn't been able to see any yet because UND hasn't played a respectable defensive team. There's a bunch of MVFC defenses who have dbacks who wouldn't be intimidated by Hardin or anybody else wearing black. There's also CAA teams that throw the ball as well as anybody in the BSC and the defenses seem to be able to cope.

Would it make a difference if I said McFadden was the 13th ranked CB for the upcoming NFL draft? The main point I'm trying to make is that he has had success against good defensive players, and saying he hasn't went up against any competition isn't correct in my opinion. That said, you're right that no one would really be intimidated by Hardin or anyone from UND, and he's not the best in FCS (some of the best stats, but you're right that the defenses they've faced in general aren't the greates), but they have been making plays. I'm sure that the Bison have had color guys that have said things that are a bit of a stretch in the past as well.

[dragonsfan]

MSUM's defense is better!

[TransAmBison]

MSUM's defense is better!Could they stop teh crazy speed of UN_? Prolly be a good game.

[aces1180]

https://twitter.com/UNDSID/status/260424908666978305

This showed up on my timeline because my cousin retweeted it...:facepalm:

[bisonmike2]

Well duh...you guys have us beat at every position except for possibly one.

I assume we are talking about the punter?

[TransAmBison]

I assume we are talking about the punter?You got it...

[Hambone]

https://twitter.com/UNDSID/status/260424908666978305

This showed up on my timeline because my cousin retweeted it...:facepalm:

Sad - back in the college days no way in hell would I ever miss a home football game, and no way in hell would I leave before it's over (hangover, blowout, whatever......).

[bisonmike2]

https://twitter.com/UNDSID/status/260424908666978305

This showed up on my timeline because my cousin retweeted it...:facepalm:

Ha ha. Butthockey'd in the second response.

[thebigund]

You still have told me nothing. NDSU had 68 plays againist USD of which 23 were passes (33% are pass plays). 6 players caught passes. They were 16/23 (roughly one drop per reciever). NDSU recievers are catching 70% of their passses. UND passed 75%/rushed 25% against montana. HOwever I haven't found what the numbers are for your recievers for completions/attempts.


Yes UND'sWR's are going to put up ungodly numbers in a 75% pass play offense. Just like NDSU backs usually are highly touted because they get the majority of the reps. To me the only way to fully analyze the WR corp is to see what percentage of passes are both teams recievers are completing, "clutch sceanrios", and YAC.
The offense isn't 75/25 on the season. The numbers are legit. UND's offense takes what other teams give them. If they put 8 in the box and blitz every time then they will get burned by the pass

[thebigund]

This may interfere with teh crazy speed.
When you add muscle the right way you get a lot faster.

[CAS4127]

The offense isn't 75/25 on the season. The numbers are legit. UND's offense takes what other teams give them. If they put 8 in the box and blitz every time then they will get burned by the pass. By comparison, the other teams' offenses do whatever they want, when they want, and that is why we lose a lot.

Fixed that up for you a bit just to keep things in perspective.

[bisonmike2]

The offense isn't 75/25 on the season. The numbers are legit. UND's offense takes what other teams give them. If they put 8 in the box and blitz every time then they will get burned by the pass

They take what is given to them. So I guess that makes them a bottom.

I'd link the urban dictionary definition but I can't from work.

[TransAmBison]

When you add muscle the right way you get a lot faster.I suppose you have to add the muscle fast, or else your "date" kicks.

[AjaxTheMighty]

You've yet to play against a receiving corps that goes 6 deep to actually test your pass defense. If Williams shuts down Hardin then who shuts down Jackson and Golladay and Townshend? Our OLine has stood up against all sorts of pressure this year and would give Hanson the short amount of time he needs to get the ball to the play makers.

Would you guys win? Perhaps. But your defense would be stretched to its limits and give up at least 27 points.

I know you guys have had a nice couple of years but don't fly too high, your wings might melt and you'll come back down to earth in a hurry.

6 wide receivers deep? How does 6 wide recievers deep help out your squad against the nation's best? I'll give you the long answer: It doesn't. You can put all 6 out there with your special QB (with one good game against maybe the worst defense in the big fluffy) that leaves 4 players...a center, two guards, and a tackle. Hardin is a fine reciever, and one retarded Bison fan that said MWill gets beat. I've seen him get beat maybe three times in his time at NDSU and I don't miss many games. He is a gamer and considered the best in the country at his position by nearly everyone, not just Bisonville. UND put up 17 on Poly. And they don't have nearly as good of a defense that NDSU does. It is a fact. I know that games aren't played in message boards, but Sam Houston had a much much much better offense than UND last year and they were held to 6 points. Georgia Southern had a much much much better offense than UND and we held them to 7. I'm saying NDSU is constantly holding 'good/great' offenses to little to nothing. UND is not the best in the country or they wouldn't be 4-4. They are a marginal team in a marginal league. Maybe your sqad would get respect if you beat respectable teams. The Undies haven't done that yet. Also, Vraa is as good as Hardin. Hardin just gets thrown to more because there is no run game/talent what-so-ever. So...NO RESPECT FO YOU! COME BACK NEXT YEAR!

[NorthernBison]

Would it make a difference if I said McFadden was the 13th ranked CB for the upcoming NFL draft? The main point I'm trying to make is that he has had success against good defensive players, and saying he hasn't went up against any competition isn't correct in my opinion. That said, you're right that no one would really be intimidated by Hardin or anyone from UND, and he's not the best in FCS (some of the best stats, but you're right that the defenses they've faced in general aren't the greates), but they have been making plays. I'm sure that the Bison have had color guys that have said things that are a bit of a stretch in the past as well.

I don't know. There are people on this board who predict MWill gets drafted in the second round. There were 5 Corners taken in the first two rounds last year. That would make our guy top 5 in the 2014 Draft class if the same trend continues. If BisonNation11 and Ajax are correct, Hardin wouldn't catch a cold against MWill. I'll let them argue with you because I obviously don't know what NFL talent is. :confused:

You're wrong about NDSU Color Commentators. They always play it straight and humble. Ed set the precedent. You guys ruined him. :hide:

[DjKyRo]

You've yet to play against a receiving corps that goes 6 deep to actually test your pass defense. If Williams shuts down Hardin then who shuts down Jackson and Golladay and Townshend? Our OLine has stood up against all sorts of pressure this year and would give Hanson the short amount of time he needs to get the ball to the play makers.

Would you guys win? Perhaps. But your defense would be stretched to its limits and give up at least 27 points.

I know you guys have had a nice couple of years but don't fly too high, your wings might melt and you'll come back down to earth in a hurry.

17 against Eastern Washington. 17 points. QED.

[AjaxTheMighty]

You've yet to play against a receiving corps that goes 6 deep to actually test your pass defense. If Williams shuts down Hardin then who shuts down Jackson and Golladay and Townshend? Our OLine has stood up against all sorts of pressure this year and would give Hanson the short amount of time he needs to get the ball to the play makers.

Would you guys win? Perhaps. But your defense would be stretched to its limits and give up at least 27 points.

I know you guys have had a nice couple of years but don't fly too high, your wings might melt and you'll come back down to earth in a hurry.

Also, I'm thinking that the Champs have the right to fly high and tell the rest of the peasants that they can't touch this! That is how it works when you do a lot of winning and earning respect from around the country. So you say your team would give THE CHAMPS all they can handle. Who's flying too high there icarus? Me or you?

[Hambone]

I don't know. There are people on this board who predict MWill gets drafted in the second round. There were 5 Corners taken in the first two rounds last year. That would make our guy top 5 in the 2014 Draft class if the same trend continues. If BisonNation11 and Ajax are correct, Hardin wouldn't catch a cold against MWill. I'll let them argue with you because I obviously don't know what NFL talent is. :confused:

You're wrong about NDSU Color Commentators. They always play it straight and humble. Ed set the precedent. You guys ruined him. :hide:

I know that MWill is a very good talent. No dispute there. We can agree to disagree on Hardin's talent though :) No hard feelings, eh?

[BisonNation11]

I don't know. There are people on this board who predict MWill gets drafted in the second round. There were 5 Corners taken in the first two rounds last year. That would make our guy top 5 in the 2014 Draft class if the same trend continues. If BisonNation11 and Ajax are correct, Hardin wouldn't catch a cold against MWill. I'll let them argue with you because I obviously don't know what NFL talent is. :confused:

You're wrong about NDSU Color Commentators. They always play it straight and humble. Ed set the precedent. You guys ruined him. :hide:

We wouldn't let Hardin beat us that's the difference. M Will would keep his opportunities to a minimum as well as the other DB's on their WR's. And for the record, my signature quote was said by a drunk friend talking about a team we support. I apologize he wore both the green and gold as well as the drunk glasses at the same time. Shame on him for having fun and supporting one hell of an athlete that has more of a shot at being a 2nd round pick than you do at having a happy existence.

[bisonmike2]

17 against Eastern Washington. 17 points. QED.

There's really not much more to say than this. UN_ has played 2 teams that actually can claim to have something resembling a defense and those teams only gave up 17 points to them. And since they are giving up almost 40 points a game to D1 competition, there's no way they'd be able to hold us to under 50. I really wish we were playing them this year or the next.

[NorthernBison]

We wouldn't let Hardin beat us that's the difference. M Will would keep his opportunities to a minimum as well as the other DB's on their WR's. And for the record, my signature quote was said by a drunk friend talking about a team we support. I apologize he wore both the green and gold as well as the drunk glasses at the same time. Shame on him for having fun and supporting one hell of an athlete that has more of a shot at being a 2nd round pick than you do at having a happy existence.

I apologize for whatever I did to get you riled up. That's two shots in one day.

For the record, I love watching MWill play the game. I expect him to get a shot at an NFL Camp some day either as a draftee or a Free agent.

[abc123]

There's really not much more to say than this. UN_ has played 2 teams that actually can claim to have something resembling a defense and those teams only gave up 17 points to them. And since they are giving up almost 40 points a game to D1 competition, there's no way they'd be able to hold us to under 50. I really wish we were playing them this year or the next.
FWIW, in the two games you mention, UND's starting QB didn't play in one (Cal Poly) and only played part of the other (EWU, his first game back, rotated with the back-up). After how he threw the ball around Saturday and the previous week against a NAU defense, who is rated right around the same as the two you mentioned, I would imagine it would have made a difference, especially if his leg was fully healed. The offense is significantly better with him under center, but that is football, play with what you are dealt. No comment on the defense other than they managed to show up for the last 20 minutes Saturday and make a few stops for a change.

[tjbison]

Muss just said this game is a top 3-4 wins for UND, they beat a team with a 3-5 record

Good lord, if NDSU won all the who fans would have been pointing out how terrible their record is

[Mr. Burgundy]

Muss just said this game is a top 3-4 wins for UND, they beat a team with a 3-5 record

Good lord, if NDSU won all the who fans would have been pointing out how terrible their record is

That is accurate. he just compared that win with the win against Southern Utah last year. Southern Utah lost to three Dakota Schools last year, and didn't play the best of those Dakota schools. Montana is historically bad this year. That program has alot hanging over its head. He did just say (to his credit) that they have to improve at recruiting.

[thebigund]

6 wide receivers deep? How does 6 wide recievers deep help out your squad against the nation's best? I'll give you the long answer: It doesn't. You can put all 6 out there with your special QB (with one good game against maybe the worst defense in the big fluffy) that leaves 4 players...a center, two guards, and a tackle. Hardin is a fine reciever, and one retarded Bison fan that said MWill gets beat. I've seen him get beat maybe three times in his time at NDSU and I don't miss many games. He is a gamer and considered the best in the country at his position by nearly everyone, not just Bisonville. UND put up 17 on Poly. And they don't have nearly as good of a defense that NDSU does. It is a fact. I know that games aren't played in message boards, but Sam Houston had a much much much better offense than UND last year and they were held to 6 points. Georgia Southern had a much much much better offense than UND and we held them to 7. I'm saying NDSU is constantly holding 'good/great' offenses to little to nothing. UND is not the best in the country or they wouldn't be 4-4. They are a marginal team in a marginal league. Maybe your sqad would get respect if you beat respectable teams. The Undies haven't done that yet. Also, Vraa is as good as Hardin. Hardin just gets thrown to more because there is no run game/talent what-so-ever. So...NO RESPECT FO YOU! COME BACK NEXT YEAR!

We scored 17 against Poly because Hendrickson, not Hanson because he was still recovering, was playing QB and couldn't hit open quys downfield to save his life. Hanson is just now getting back to where he was to start the year and our offense will continue to roll and would do so against any defense because you can't stop our run and pass you can pick only one.

Ga Southern runs an option, your defense is based on stuffing the run first. It's a terrible mach up for them and a great one for you. You get up on them at all and the game is over. Our offense is alot harder to stop with a healthy Hanson than a triple option.

What exactly has Vraa done in his career? Good games against...... Prairie View annnnnndddd...... I'm not sure. He's a good player but he's not even in the same league as Hardin. Look at what Hardin did to a good Northern Illinois team and SDSU who has one of the top CBs in the nation.

[NorthernBison]

Muss just said this game is a top 3-4 wins for UND, they beat a team with a 3-5 record

Good lord, if NDSU won all the who fans would have been pointing out how terrible their record is

Yes they would. There is no need for us to be as douchy as Who fans. Congrats to UND on beating Montana. A traditionally strong program. You can only play the teams on your schedule and never apologize for winning.

I don't see anybody apologizing for hanging 54 on the Coyotes and not letting them score a single point.

[reformedUNDfan]

hardin is good, but wouldn't be anything special for NDSU, aside from the fact that he doesn't seem to get broken every other play.

the rest of the receivers are nothing special, and ndsu's freshman are as good or better than UND's

[AjaxTheMighty]

We scored 17 against Poly because Hendrickson, not Hanson because he was still recovering, was playing QB and couldn't hit open quys downfield to save his life. Hanson is just now getting back to where he was to start the year and our offense will continue to roll and would do so against any defense because you can't stop our run and pass you can pick only one.

Ga Southern runs an option, your defense is based on stuffing the run first. It's a terrible mach up for them and a great one for you. You get up on them at all and the game is over. Our offense is alot harder to stop with a healthy Hanson than a triple option.

What exactly has Vraa done in his career? Good games against...... Prairie View annnnnndddd...... I'm not sure. He's a good player but he's not even in the same league as Hardin. Look at what Hardin did to a good Northern Illinois team and SDSU who has one of the top CBs in the nation.


So you are confused, I see. You seem to think that rolling up yards in the air is for some reason superior to rolling up yards on the ground. Football doesn't work that way Sonnie or there would be no RBs left. NDSU is not a 'stop the run first' football team. The Champs do both stop the run and pass equally well. Actually they are freakish at both. Not only that but IF a team as amazing as UND played the Champs and managed to put up yards, there is no reason to believe the Bison would allow more than one TD. They have given up an unbelievable 6 defensive TDs all year' That's just plain filthy. It's a stingy, stingy defense. It's kind of like this: UND is like Pharaoh and the Egyptians and NDSU is like Moses and the Israelites. The Egyptians cover a lot of ground, but didn't seal the deal and end up getting buried in the end! Bison fans know have no illusions about how it would end. Undies fans fantasize about playing with the Champs and competing. its entertaining and funny. Boom! Roasted! Also, that is a neat analogy I came up with because obviously God is a Bison fan! How neat is that?

[Ross]

We scored 17 against Poly because Hendrickson, not Hanson because he was still recovering, was playing QB and couldn't hit open quys downfield to save his life. Hanson is just now getting back to where he was to start the year and our offense will continue to roll and would do so against any defense because you can't stop our run and pass you can pick only one.

Ga Southern runs an option, your defense is based on stuffing the run first. It's a terrible mach up for them and a great one for you. You get up on them at all and the game is over. Our offense is alot harder to stop with a healthy Hanson than a triple option.

What exactly has Vraa done in his career? Good games against...... Prairie View annnnnndddd...... I'm not sure. He's a good player but he's not even in the same league as Hardin. Look at what Hardin did to a good Northern Illinois team and SDSU who has one of the top CBs in the nation.

Ok. You've stated that NDSU shutting down Georgia Southern was such a great match-up for the Bison because we stop the run. I'm just wondering what the apologist theory is for the shut-out of Lehigh in the playoffs last year? They passed the sh*t out of the ball all year with one of the top QB's in the nation and all Bison fans heard that week was that NDSU would be lucky to hold them under 35. They didn't have Spadola for that game, but still, they scored ZERO points. How about that?

[CAS4127]

Hardin probably is good, but would not have numbers here like he does "there" because we don't play that style--never have. Who has way more Natty's again?!


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[CarringtonBison]

Ok. You've stated that NDSU shutting down Georgia Southern was such a great match-up for the Bison because we stop the run. I'm just wondering what the apologist theory is for the shut-out of Lehigh in the playoffs last year? They passed the sh*t out of the ball all year with one of the top QB's in the nation and all Bison fans heard that week was that NDSU would be lucky to hold them under 35. They didn't have Spadola for that game, but still, they scored ZERO points. How about that?

This is almost exactly what I was going to post. Great defenses adapt to the style of play that they need to over come. We saw four unique offensive styles last year and shut them all down in convincing fashion. There is not a better defense in the FCS and most of the FBS, IMO.

In terms of Harding, who gives a shxt. He is a good player-I think that we would all grant him that. Would he play for NDSU, probably. Would he be as effective, probably not because, as CAS said, we run a different style of offense. Put up big numbers, but in the grand scheme of things, you all are still 4-4. Doesn't matter how many yard you have and how many points you score, if it is 1 point less than your opponent-you still lost!!!!

Buttbama-look where that got them last year; if i remember correctly a beating behind the woodshed!

[AjaxTheMighty]

Don't you just love when fans of teams that are NOT going to be in the playoffs think their team can play with The Mighty Bison? Every team we faced in the playoffs last year were much better den da nortern Skool up dare in el forko grande. When I say much better I actually mean light years better but I am wearing my polite pants tonight.

[GRAFTONBISON]

I will be sure to give a hardy wave to Mr. Hardin and a nice thumbs up for his statistics as he is watching NDSU play on ESPN in December!!

That is all.

[AjaxTheMighty]

I'm sure Brandon Hanson is better then B-Rock too right? Oh yeah, Brock can't throw 70 yards (because 70 yards in the air is a commonly thrown pass) Boom! Roasted!

[Kermit]

I'm sure Brandon Hanson is better then B-Rock too right? Oh yeah, Brock can't throw 70 yards (because 70 yards in the air is a commonly thrown pass) Boom! Roasted!

Brock has done a great job, but there are some things that need improvement. It appears he is sometimes slow on his reads and he still tends to try to throw to favorite receivers in very tight spots instead of the checking down. That said, he does nothing but win. He has become very accurate and his mobility is an under-appreciated asset.

I've only seen Hanson on TV. He appears to be an outstanding passer. He also appears to have very limited mobility. I think a defense that could put some pressure on him in the pocket would be successful.

[AjaxTheMighty]

Brock has done a great job, but there are some things that need improvement. It appears he is sometimes slow on his reads and he still tends to try to throw to favorite receivers in very tight spots instead of the checking down. That said, he does nothing but win. He has become very accurate and his mobility is an under-appreciated asset.

I've only seen Hanson on TV. He appears to be an outstanding passer. He also appears to have very limited mobility. I think a defense that could put some pressure on him in the pocket would be successful.

The need for improvement with all players can't be overstated. With that said, even the pros talk about improving. It is an evolving process.

[thebigund]

The need for improvement with all players can't be overstated. With that said, even the pros talk about improving. It is an evolving process.
You're just full of wisdom. Maybe you should be teh oc for teh bizon?

[344Johnson]

You're just full of wisdom. Maybe you should be teh oc for teh bizon?

You should apply for teh UND defensive coordinator position.

[thebigund]

You should apply for teh UND defensive coordinator position.
You should add a Boom! Roasted! to the end of that.

[TransAmBison]

You should add a Boom! Roasted! to the end of that.That would have been redundant.

[AjaxTheMighty]

You should add a Boom! Roasted! to the end of that.

Whenever I do something, I say to myself, 'would an idiot do that?' if they would, I don't do that thing.

[thebigund]

Whenever I do something, I say to myself, 'would an idiot do that?' if they would, I don't do that thing.
Does that rule apply to your name and avatar? Boom! Roasted!

[CAS4127]

Does that rule apply to your name and avatar? Boom! Roasted!

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/418486_3265066036039_559406064_n.jpg

Boom, roasted!!!

[bisonmike2]

It appears that "Boom, Roasted!" is the new "Check Neg Rep"

[KSBisonFan]

It appears that "Boom, Roasted!" is the new "Check Neg Rep"

I thought thebigund = "check neg rep"? Does that mean "Boom, Roasted" + thebigund = (2)"check neg rep" with a remainder of dumbass?

[TAILG8R]

I thought thebigund = "check neg rep"? Does that mean "Boom, Roasted" + thebigund = (2)"check neg rep" with a remainder of dumbass?

It's asshat, I think you forgot to carry the one.

[AjaxTheMighty]

Does that rule apply to your name and avatar? Boom! Roasted!

No, but it applies to your face!!! B_ _ m! R _ _ s t _ d! (Hint: you'll want to buy a vowel. Wait, sorry. You'll want to buy letters like A E I O U & sometimes Y)

[KSBisonFan]

No, but it applies to your face!!! B_ _ m! R _ _ s t _ d! (Hint: you'll want to buy a vowel. Wait, sorry. You'll want to buy letters like A E I O U & sometimes Y)

"Thank yous for clarifying dat. I'd lick too by a '&' and a 'sometimes' please," said thebigund.

[AjaxTheMighty]

We scored 17 against Poly because Hendrickson, not Hanson because he was still recovering, was playing QB and couldn't hit open quys downfield to save his life. Hanson is just now getting back to where he was to start the year and our offense will continue to roll and would do so against any defense because you can't stop our run and pass you can pick only one.

Ga Southern runs an option, your defense is based on stuffing the run first. It's a terrible mach up for them and a great one for you. You get up on them at all and the game is over. Our offense is alot harder to stop with a healthy Hanson than a triple option.

What exactly has Vraa done in his career? Good games against...... Prairie View annnnnndddd...... I'm not sure. He's a good player but he's not even in the same league as Hardin. Look at what Hardin did to a good Northern Illinois team and SDSU who has one of the top CBs in the nation.

:rofl: check MSU game! Nomination for preposterous statement of the year!