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missingnumber7
09-16-2012, 08:21 PM
Here we go!!! Please PM your votes to me NO LATER THAN 12 PM Central time Monday 17 September. I will post the results in this thread around 1 PM. Anyone and everyone is welcome and I will compile a list of voters for the time being. Please rate teams 1-25. If I have any questions I will PM you directly to clarify.

tjbison
09-16-2012, 09:12 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AgtKAORz8z6vdHVBbTM1ZHF6aHJYRGJfakk2SjBGcm c

This will help people with research

IronRanger
09-17-2012, 03:03 AM
Thanks for the Google Doc TJ, it helped seeing the weekend results.

Tatanka
09-17-2012, 03:15 AM
Thanks for the Google Doc TJ, it helped seeing the weekend results.aaaaaand right there you have done more research than many who vote in the fcs coaches poll.

ndsubison1
09-17-2012, 06:13 AM
thanks for doing this. i will send mine to you via pm

missingnumber7
09-17-2012, 04:20 PM
45 minutes to submit your poll's, b15on i still need a response from you reguarding your vote.

missingnumber7
09-17-2012, 06:06 PM
Bisonville Top 25
1. North Dakota State (16) 2-0 400
2. Youngstown State 3-0 370
3. Sam Houston State 1-1 359
4. Old Dominion 3-0 340
5. Montana State 3-0 299
6. James Madison 2-1 284
7. Northern Iowa 1-2 281
8. Wofford 3-0 277
9. The Citadel 3-0 272
10. Eastern Washington 1-1 267
11. Illinois State 3-0 254
12. Stony Brook 2-1 208
13. Georgia Southern 1-1 207
14. Montana 2-1 200
15. Cal Poly 2-0 174
16. Lehigh 3-0 155
17. Appalachian State 1-2 147
18. Towson 1-1 143
19. McNeese State 3-0 134
20. Delaware 3-0 109
21. Indiana State 2-1 90
22. New Hampshire 2-1 67
23. Maine 1-1 59
24. Central Arkansas 2-1 51
25. Albany 2-1 14
Others Receiving Votes: Sacramento State 9; Eastern Kentucky 6; North Dakota 6; Jacksonville State 5; Layfayette 4; Villinova 3; Northern Arizona 2.


Here is the first results...I had 16 responses...hopefully I can get up to 25 for the next poll.


Thanks everyone for participating.

Professor Chaos
09-17-2012, 06:40 PM
Much better than the coach's (or SIDs') poll.

Herd
09-17-2012, 06:45 PM
Wow, that headline on TSN wreaks of East Coast Bias. "CAA gets 6 in top 25 poll". The CAA is O-fer against upper level competition in the OOC. In the case of ODU and Delaware, they have not played anyone yet. That conference rated 4th in the FCS, and other than JMU is . . . . overrated.

A good headline would have been "New world order: Woffy & Citadel crack top 10".

Vitojr130
09-17-2012, 07:12 PM
Bisonville Top 25
1. North Dakota State (16) 2-0 400
2. Youngstown State 3-0 370
3. Sam Houston State 1-1 359
4. Old Dominion 3-0 340
5. Montana State 3-0 299
6. James Madison 2-1 284
7. Northern Iowa 1-2 281
8. Wofford 3-0 277
9. The Citadel 3-0 272
10. Eastern Washington 1-1 267
11. Illinois State 3-0 254
12. Stony Brook 2-1 208
13. Georgia Southern 1-1 207
14. Montana 2-1 200
15. Cal Poly 2-0 174
16. Lehigh 3-0 155
17. Appalachian State 1-2 147
18. Towson 1-1 143
19. McNeese State 3-0 134
20. Delaware 3-0 109
21. Indiana State 2-1 90
22. New Hampshire 2-1 67
23. Maine 1-1 59
24. Central Arkansas 2-1 51
25. Albany 2-1 14
Others Receiving Votes: Sacramento State 9; Eastern Kentucky 6; North Dakota 6; Jacksonville State 5; Layfayette 4; Villinova 3; Northern Arizona 2.


Here is the first results...I had 16 responses...hopefully I can get up to 25 for the next poll.


Thanks everyone for participating.

I endorse this poll with the exception of SHSU. I'm just not sold on them this year. I think they are good, but more like #6 or #7 good...

missingnumber7
09-17-2012, 07:43 PM
I endorse this poll with the exception of SHSU. I'm just not sold on them this year. I think they are good, but more like #6 or #7 good...I agree 100%, I was supprised how high they ended up in this poll, but enought people have disagrements between 2-5 that they snuck back in there. I think on other polls they got to much credit for the first half of the Baylor game.

Professor Chaos
09-17-2012, 08:04 PM
I endorse this poll with the exception of SHSU. I'm just not sold on them this year. I think they are good, but more like #6 or #7 good...

I agree 100%, I was supprised how high they ended up in this poll, but enought people have disagrements between 2-5 that they snuck back in there. I think on other polls they got to much credit for the first half of the Baylor game.
Very few teams have proven much at all at this point in the season so there's still a lot of previous year bias at this point. I think it's just as dangerous to give a team too much credit for one solid win as it is to punish a team because they haven't beaten anyone yet. To me, NDSU and SHSU are still the top 2 teams in the country. SHSU was very impressive against Baylor, the score was not indicative of how well they played. If Youngstown is able to beat UNI this weekend, they would probably jump up above everyone in my poll.

missingnumber7
09-17-2012, 09:24 PM
Very few teams have proven much at all at this point in the season so there's still a lot of previous year bias at this point. I think it's just as dangerous to give a team too much credit for one solid win as it is to punish a team because they haven't beaten anyone yet. To me, NDSU and SHSU are still the top 2 teams in the country. SHSU was very impressive against Baylor, the score was not indicative of how well they played. If Youngstown is able to beat UNI this weekend, they would probably jump up above everyone in my poll.I have been looking and will go back and look again, but I give way more credit to schools that play FCS schools vs Top tier D2 schools, but in most cases the D2 schools that are played are average at best. The one team that has supprised me is Citadel. I also think that the schools that have played 2 FBS schools need more credit, Northern Iowa has either prepared themselves for an interesting run, or a rough season. I will be very interested in that Youngstown/UNI game as that Pitt team has played jeckel and hyde and I'm very interested to see if UNI can go to a place where YSU plays well and come away with a win as UNI has proven they can go into hostile environments and win, even though Wisconsin has had a rocky season to the point, and Iowa isn't great. But to that point I wasn't terribly impressed with our performance against CSU in the 4th Quarter...I kept thinking we need another score to put the game away and we really struggled to do that.

Vitojr130
09-17-2012, 10:47 PM
Very few teams have proven much at all at this point in the season so there's still a lot of previous year bias at this point. I think it's just as dangerous to give a team too much credit for one solid win as it is to punish a team because they haven't beaten anyone yet. To me, NDSU and SHSU are still the top 2 teams in the country. SHSU was very impressive against Baylor, the score was not indicative of how well they played. If Youngstown is able to beat UNI this weekend, they would probably jump up above everyone in my poll.

Well, that's just it. There has yet to be enough proving ground to vote them as #2 in my book. They dominated (as they should have) an average-at-best D2 team and hung in there with a top 30 (Sagarin Ratings) FBS team for the first half, then lost it due to lack of depth (I think). Baylor did what they are "supposed" to do as an FBS team and simply outlasted SHSU. Overall I think SHSU's offense is still great, but their defense is not as good as it was last year. We will see come time they play some FCS teams that actually give a challenge.

tjbison
09-18-2012, 12:09 AM
I endorse this poll with the exception of SHSU. I'm just not sold on them this year. I think they are good, but more like #6 or #7 good...

I for one watched the entire SHSU vs Baylor game, looking at the score is wrong, they have a good team will be in contention, their problem isn't with talent I believe Fritz as a coach let them down in that game by not making his adjustments. Until they get challenged by a crap team I will still think they are legit

I don't know the sampling but am glad to see UND get votes, I for 1 did not but if they beat Sac St this week will give them a 25 position, just need to see them play and win against the conference Mates, but glad thi isn't a green and gold koto laid contest

Vitojr130
09-18-2012, 12:13 AM
I for one watched the entire SHSU vs Baylor game, looking at the score is wrong, they have a good team will be in contention, their problem isn't with talent I believe Fritz as a coach let them down in that game by not making his adjustments. Until they get challenged by a crap team I will still think they are legit

Well to be fair, I also believe that any one team in the top 10 could give any other team in the top 10 one h*ll of a game. I just don't think they are deserving of the #2 spot until I see more.

tjbison
09-18-2012, 12:20 AM
Well to be fair, I also believe that any one team in the top 10 could give any other team in the top 10 one h*ll of a game. I just don't think they are deserving of the #2 spot until I see more.

Why, what makes us deserving of #1 then? Baylor and SHSU would roll CSU and RMU just like we did

westnodak93bison
09-18-2012, 11:09 AM
Well to be fair, I also believe that any one team in the top 10 could give any other team in the top 10 one h*ll of a game. I just don't think they are deserving of the #2 spot until I see more.

I heard they took a big chance on 4th down deep in their own territory and didnt make it. Snow balled from there.

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ndsubison1
09-24-2012, 02:57 AM
BUMP for week 5 poll

Vitojr130
09-24-2012, 01:12 PM
Why, what makes us deserving of #1 then? Baylor and SHSU would roll CSU and RMU just like we did

Well maybe. After their loss this weekend, I'm not so sure. I still think they are a good team... just not top 10 anymore...

missingnumber7
09-24-2012, 04:22 PM
Still missing polls from a few who voted last week, and anyone else who wants to vot is more than welcome to PM me your top 25. I will extend the deadline to 1230 today.