Bye week: What other teams games are you looking forward to watching today.

[BisonTeacher]

Im up and getting ready to head to the gopher tailgate. I was thinking about what other games people are most interested in watching today while the Bison are off.

I am looking forward to watching the UNI vs Iowa when I get home (DVR-ing it).

[Gully]

Im up and getting ready to head to the gopher tailgate. I was thinking about what other games people are most interested in watching today while the Bison are off.

I am looking forward to watching the UNI vs Iowa when I get home (DVR-ing it).

I plan on watching/listening to the Gophers, followed by Iowa/UNI (that one could get interesting). I also want to see some of the Virginia Tech / Pitt game at 11. Want to see how good Pitt is to try to judge the YSU win. Florida / Tennessee.

[Gully]

Notre Dame / Michigan State as well.

[tjbison]

USC and Stanford

[BisonBabe]

Will be watching several games today ESPN3 has a nice line up starting in a couple hours. Any other games I can watch/listen to online will be great.

[56BISON73]

Im up and getting ready to head to the gopher tailgate. I was thinking about what other games people are most interested in watching today while the Bison are off.

I am looking forward to watching the UNI vs Iowa when I get home (DVR-ing it).

I am at the iowa game. Just pulled in to the parking ramp. Will be interesting to see if UNI can finally beat the Hawkeyes. Iowa seems ripe for an upset considering how shitty they played the last 2 games.

[Hammerhead]

I might watch UNI vs. Iowa. A good portion of my day will be spent washing our camper since there's no Bison football. :)

[KSBisonFan]

I'm going to try to find the SHSU and Baylor game. Will keep an eye on JMU and WVU, the UNI game and Tennessee vs. Florida. Gonna be interesting to see how CSU does at San Jose State. Go Rams.

[BisonTeacher]

Shsu baylor is on fox college sports.

[tjbison]

I forgot about th grand daddy of them all, Idaho at LSU, I mean this has upset written all over it................this is a game that shouldn't be played either much like crappy FCS against top FBS

[NDSUstudent]

I think I'll start the day out watching some FCS football, William and Mary vs Towson on NBC Sports Network in HD. Might flip back and forth between that and the Gopher game.

Did I mention how jealous I am of the CAA having TV deal with NBC sports.

[NDSUstudent]

Towson has to be the first school that put their twitter hashtag on their field.

#upROAR

[Gully]

Pitt up 7-0 against Va Tech.

[NDSUstudent]

TD Bill and Mary....they are up 7-3 on #12 Towson

[Gully]

Pitt looking good. 14-0 over Va Tech. YSU might be one of the best FCS teams in the country.

[HandoEX]

Pitt looking good. 14-0 over Va Tech. YSU might be one of the best FCS teams in the country.
Great win for YSU, but IIRC Pitt had a load of good players suspended for that game.

[NDSUstudent]

10-3 Bill and Mary over #12 Towson.

[tony]

Kind of an interesting score... Bethune-Cookman scored to go up 7-0 on Miami (FL) and Miami returned the kickoff for a TD. Tied with 8 minutes to go in the first half.

[tjbison]

Grey goes down for the gophers, Shortell come in and hits two TD drives lead 21-10 at the half

[BisonTeacher]

Shortell is better. I loved it last year when they would take him out to put gray back in vs bison

[NDSUstudent]

13-10 #12 Towson takes the lead over Bill and Mary. Game is setting up for a good finish, it's on channel 603 on Direct TV.

[Fast50Dad]

13-10 #12 Towson takes the lead over Bill and Mary. Game is setting up for a good finish, it's on channel 603 on Direct TV.

Thanks NDSUstudent!

[NDSUstudent]

Wow Bo Pelini left the Husker game in an ambulance.

[BadlandsBison]

Wow Bo Pelini left the Husker game in an ambulance.

Whoa! And Nebraska is sucking it up

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[BisonBabe]

Watching the Furman/Clemson game now. Furman looks good so far

[NDSUstudent]

Louisiana Monroe is doing it again....they just scored a TD to tie the game vs Auburn...

ULM 28
Auburn 28 1:18 left in the game.

[SDbison]

First possession: UNI moving the ball at will on Iowa .........inside 10 yard line.

[MNLonghorn10]

uni made that look easy

[SDbison]

UNI scores first.......touchdown.

[bisonmike2]

UNI looked impressive on that opening drive.

[NDSUstudent]

Some other FCS scores....

SFA 7
#3 Montana State 0

#21 The Citadel 7
#8 App State 0

Both games are in the first quarter.

[SDbison]

Iowa scores a TD.......now UNI 7, Iowa 7.......mid 1st qtr.

[jimmyptubas]

Iowa scores a TD.......now UNI 7, Iowa 7.......mid 1st qtr.

That first drive by UNI was quite methodical and I was impressed.

[jimmyptubas]

Nice long field goal from uni kicker. 10-7 now

[MNLonghorn10]

uc davis up 8-6 over the rabbits...6:50 in the 3rd

[SDbison]

Iowa 17, UNI 13 at halftime

[tjbison]

Sam Houston at Baylor just kicked off on FCS Direct Tv channel 623

[tjbison]

Cal poly 14 Wyoming 15 at the half

[NDSUstudent]

Cal Poly 21
Wyoming 15 about 4:30 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.

[NDSUstudent]

UND 0
San Diego State 14

Early in the first Quarter

[tjbison]

UND 0
San Diego State 14

Early in the first Quarter

Lol.....meltdown on the hitler youth board I bet

They have been doing nothing but comparing who they have played to us

[MNLonghorn10]

good start for north dakota.

[NDSUstudent]

Whioux score on a trick play, fleaflicker pass to Hardin for a TD 14-7 Aztecs.

Meanwhile in Wyoming...Cal Poly leads the Cowboys 21-15 at the end of the third quarter.

[Tatanka]

UND 0
San Diego State 14

Early in the first Quarterfirst offensive play for whioux... interception SDSU for a TD.
Second offensive series for whioux.... three plays, -5 yards, punt.

Toe to toe? More like foot to arse.

EDIT... whioux flea flicker for TD. Moral victory achieved.

[DjKyRo]

21-7 SDSU. ESPN's gamecast can't even keep up.

[MNLonghorn10]

so. in 8 minutes, und has allowed 14 more points than ndsu has all year

[Tatanka]

21-7 SDSU. ESPN's gamecast can't even keep up.a defensive masterpiece so far for the whioux...

[344Johnson]

So where is this vaunted UND defense?

[BisonTeacher]

first offensive play for whioux... interception SDSU for a TD.
Second offensive series for whioux.... three plays, -5 yards, punt.

Toe to toe? More like foot to arse.

EDIT... whioux flea flicker for TD. Moral victory achieved.

Yup..when all else fails... gadget plays.

[NDSUstudent]

Cal Poly makes a 51 yard field goal to go up 24-15 on Wyoming.

[tjbison]

20-10 SHSU with 1 minute to go in half

[NDSUstudent]

So where is this vaunted UND defense?

Wishing they were back in the Tin Shed playing the school of Mines or a soft Big Fluffy Sky team.

[semobison]

Watching Sam Houston leading Baylor 20-10 late 2nd quarter. The Kats look good!

[Tatanka]

so. in 8 minutes, und has allowed 14 more points than ndsu has in the last 5 games?this is correct.

And more touchdowns than the last three games combined, including the natty champ game but we all know under has played superior competition and whatnot.

[NDSUstudent]

UND has no secondary...I doubt any of their players would even make our second string.

[Hambone]

Since you are all so concerned, UND scores on a nice drive to make it 21-14.

[KC Bison]

How can it this be??? How is that the team that needed the trick play was the whoo to score a TD when it was supposed to be San Diego that was going to have to rely on trick plays to score. I read that in the Forum.

[MNLonghorn10]

whoever gets to 80 wins the sdsu/und game

[Hambone]

UND has no secondary...I doubt any of their players would even make our second string.

Daryl Brown is hurt and not playing, and I think he'd possibly start opposite Williams for NDSU if he were a Bison. At least nickel. But you're right - after that there's not much there (a couple redshirt freshmen, but Mackey and Hall suck).

[Tatanka]

Since you are all so concerned, UND scores on a nice drive to make it 21-14.Cookie is in the mail.

[tjbison]

Daryl Brown is hurt and not playing, and I think he'd possibly start opposite Williams for NDSU if he were a Bison. At least nickel. But you're right - after that there's not much there (a couple redshirt freshmen, but Mackey and Hall suck).

Mighty big assumption there considering the level of play we went thru compared to und

[NDSUstudent]

I guess I should't make fun of UND's secondary too much, considering early in our transition Bobby Babich was starting for us. It takes time to build a great secondary and DL at this level.

[tjbison]

I guess I should't make fun of UND's secondary too much, considering early in our transition Bobby Babich was starting for us. It takes time to build a great secondary and DL at this level.

Why they have no problem nitpicking everything on our team

[Tatanka]

28-14 sdsu. 10 play 75 yd drive. Like a hot knife through melted butter.

My son says this is just like Madden on rookie mode.

[Hammersmith]

Another SDSU TD. 28-14 SDSU while waiting for Baylor/SHSU to come out of halftime.

edit: too slow

[Ross]

I kind of wish I could watch the undies dumpster fire of a football game. Their radio guys, other than jack, are not too great.

[BadlandsBison]

Daryl Brown is hurt and not playing, and I think he'd possibly start opposite Williams for NDSU if he were a Bison. At least nickel. But you're right - after that there's not much there (a couple redshirt freshmen, but Mackey and Hall suck).

Start opposite of Marcus? Nah, maybe he would be allowed to start Marcus' car on a cold day

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[tjbison]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/billyklubbin#utm_campaign=aztecmesa.proboards.com&utm_source=12070331&utm_medium=social

Undie game

[SDbison]

Still in 1st quarter Fresno St. 28, Colorado 0
Also, San Jose State 14, Colorado State 7 early in 2nd quarter.

[DjKyRo]

LOL. SDSU goes up 28-14 just after the second quarter starts.

[SamsRams]

north Texas down 14 to 13 in the third quarter versus Kansas State.

[Tatanka]

Start opposite of Marcus? Nah, maybe he would be allowed to start Marcus' car on a cold day

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[NDSUstudent]

Why they have no problem nitpicking everything on our team

I realize that but I don't want to be like some of the bozo's over SS.com.

That said I don't know if he'd start here, Martin and Pierre are both pretty solid.

[BisonTeacher]

Daryl Brown is hurt and not playing, and I think he'd possibly start opposite Williams for NDSU if he were a Bison. At least nickel. But you're right - after that there's not much there (a couple redshirt freshmen, but Mackey and Hall suck).

Sounds like you are saying the team formerly known as the sioux....suck.

[NDSUstudent]

Well at least the Rams are kind of bouncing back...They are down 14-13 at San Jose St.

[Ross]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/billyklubbin#utm_campaign=aztecmesa.proboards.com&utm_source=12070331&utm_medium=social

Undie game

video doesn't work.

edit... it just started working.

[344Johnson]

Daryl Brown is hurt and not playing, and I think he'd possibly start opposite Williams for NDSU if he were a Bison. At least nickel. But you're right - after that there's not much there (a couple redshirt freshmen, but Mackey and Hall suck).

Everyone should relax about this post. He didn't say he is better than Marcus, he admitted that UND has a bad secondary and he said the guy could play at least some nickel in his opinion. Ease up.

In other news. UND blows.

[SamsRams]

God some of you get sucked im so easily. just ignore those clowns let's talk football


would have been a great year to play Wisconsin 7-3 Utah State

[NDSUstudent]

Cal Poly beats Wyoming 24-22!

[Tatanka]

28-17. Sdsu bails out whioux offense with a personal foul after two consecutive whioux false starts.

[HerdBot]

SDSU scores again 35-17 with about 6 minutes left.

Wow these are the worst defenses I have ever seen. Unbelievable! UND's offense looks good (actually) but unfortunately you can't win anything without a defense. The 35 points allowed in just under a half is more than we have given up combined since the playoffs began last year against James Madison!! And that was against a pretty good group of teams.

[Tatanka]

But und is winning time of possession. That calls for at least a cup or two of Gatorade dribbled down the offensive coordinators shirt.

[Tatanka]

35-20. Another personal foul on sdsu defense.

[b15on]

35-20 at half. That's a whole lotta points.


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[SDbison]

Can't believe Idaho is hanging with LSU.......sort of. At half LSU 28, Idaho 14. What's up Sav?

[loudsilverado]

I had fun reading the meltdown over on Wyonation. I love it when it happens to other teams and not us! The gap between non-top 25 FBS and FCS is non existent imo. On that note, GO AZTECS!!

[SDbison]

Baylor ahead of SHSU in mid 3rd qtr.......24-20.

[tjbison]

Can't believe Idaho is hanging with LSU.......sort of. At half LSU 28, Idaho 14. What's up Sav?

Is this on direct tv? I can't find it

[SDbison]

Is this on direct tv? I can't find it I don't believe so........just got score update.

[Kermit]

Is this on direct tv? I can't find it
FCS Central

[NDSUstudent]

TD Whioux...they are down 35-27

[Tatanka]

Sdsu giving the game away. Another personal foul to stall out their offense and an offsides on defense with und third and five within their own ten to give them life. Und capitalizes 35-27

[Ross]

TD Whioux...they are down 35-27

An actual quote from one of the television announcers while UND took a timeout while having a 4th and goal from the 1/2 yardline. "I'd take the 3 here, if you trust your defense." I almost lost some mountain dew all over my computer.

[NDSUstudent]

Td sdsu 42-27

[BadlandsBison]

I wanna see the whioux beat an fbs finally, just to see the reaction. All of the sudden, beating the fbs will be a huge deal. Herald headline "New sheriff in the Big Fluffy Question Mark?" And the ceremonial gatoraide bath of course :)

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[Tatanka]

Sdsu 5 plays 89 yards touchdown. 42-27

Sdsu student section needs to learn the SIEVE chant, pronto.

[Hambone]

If und had half the defense of us they might do okay this year

[Hambone]

If und had half the defense of su they might do okay this year

[tjbison]

If und had half the defense of us they might do okay this year

Us??????????

[BisonTeacher]

If und had half the defense of su they might do okay this year

Freudian slip!!! Ha ha. Glad you corrected it though.

[Hambone]

Stupid auto correct

[loudsilverado]

Everyone on SS keeps saying how good their offense is, well, it's a shootout, why are you behind?

[56BISON73]

I am on pins and needles----another toe to toe game!!!!!

[NDSUstudent]

Well it seems like for 3/4 of the Big Sky defense is optional so I guess UND is in the right conference.

[BadlandsBison]

If und had half the defense of us they might do okay this year

Ah, he wants to change allegiance :)

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[NDSUstudent]

UND TD Hardin....42-34 SDSU leads

[Ross]

Hmm... maybe San Diego State will break 70 points tonight.

[BisonTeacher]

Utah state...come on.

Catch the ball!

[X-Factor]

Utah state...come on.

Catch the ball!

I see what you're doing there ;)

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[BisonTeacher]

I see what you're doing there ;)

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If you mean rooting against frickin scony. Yes...you figured me out! :-)

[Bisonguy]

878 total yards so far in this game.

[NDSUstudent]

Td sdsu 49-34.

[Tatanka]

49-34. Sdsu drive aided by a couple und penalties To compliment stellar defensive play. 896 Total yards of offense (493 sdsu). Ten minutes left in this laugher.

[Civil06]

Sieve. Sieve. Sieve. Sieve...

[BisonTeacher]

Utah state!!!!

[X-Factor]

Meanwhile, Baylor discovers how poor shsu's qb play is without a running game to support it.

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[Tatanka]

Well, I've seen enough. Moral victory secure. Gatorade bath pending. Toe to tie inevitable. Who knows, maybe sdsu gets tired of scoring and the whioux pull this one out.

[NDSUstudent]

TD UND 49-41 SDSU leads.

If Mussman doesn't onside kick he is an idiot.

[BisonTeacher]

Utah state!!!!

Just blew it!!!!! Damn sconys.

[loudsilverado]

Go Aztecs! Come on

[tony]

I'm watching the real UND... looking pretty good against the Spartans.

[loudsilverado]

Big drive coming up here for SDSU.

[BisonTeacher]

I'm watching the real UND... looking pretty good against the Spartans.

And on the road!

[NDSUstudent]

Long kick return for SDSU to their 40 yard line.

[344Johnson]

I'm watching the real UND... looking pretty good against the Spartans.

Nice to watch another team who appreciates defense. I love being a Bison/Irish fan.

[BisonTeacher]

Thanks bisonville for a great college football saturday!!! It may not be over....but its time for me to crash.

[tcbison]

I'm flipping back and forth between the MSU/Notre Dame game and USC/Stanford game. Did the USC receiver get his toe down? Critical call here.

[tjbison]

I'm flipping back and forth between the MSU/Notre Dame game and USC/Stanford game. Did the USC receiver get his toe down? Critical call here.

Yes it's a catch

[BadlandsBison]

I admire your enthusiasm X but were you reading the posts on egriz.com when the BISON were supposed to be the sacrificial lamb 2 yrs ago @Wash-Griz? Nobody saw that one coming and nobody up here knows much about Ark-Monticello. If we do indeed we put up 70 I'll buy you drinks @(bar of your choice) after the game ;D.

This would be a huge win! Already looking forward to the usc game

Edit; meant to quote Tony about the Irish

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[tjbison]

USC driving....can Barkley take his place in history

[NDSUstudent]

Down goes USC...

[tcbison]

Stanford takes down USC! Sweet win for Stanford.

[Ross]

Sucks for Barkley, can't do much when your o-line offers up zero protection and everyone in the stadium knows you're throwing the football.

[Bison bison]

San Diego 2012.

Best Moral Victory -EVAR!!!!

[BisonBabe]

the announcers for the SDSU / UND game just said this was a big game for UND and that some of their players had not been on a plane before today ... really

[loudsilverado]

Couldn't hardly listen to the game because of the homer announcers for UND. Aztecs win, still no FBS wins for the Sux. Announcers saying "Is the Big Sky ready for this UND offense"?? Sheesh

[NDSUstudent]

UND comes up short on 4th down....SDSU win 49-41.

[Hambone]

Hambone angry. That is all.

[Ross]

Couldn't hardly listen to the game because of the homer announcers for UND. Aztecs win, still no FBS wins for the Sux. Announcers saying "Is the Big Sky ready for this UND offense"?? Sheesh

I don't know about the offense, but the entire Big Fluffy is pretty excited about the UND defense.

[56BISON73]

the announcers for the SDSU / UND game just said this was a big game for UND and that some of their players had not been on a plane before today ... really

And to top off the weekend they will take the whole team to Olive Garden. Wow a plane ride AND Olive Garden all in the same weekend. Now there is a recruiting talking point!!!

[BisonBabe]

Couldn't hardly listen to the game because of the homer announcers for UND. Aztecs win, still no FBS wins for the Sux. Announcers saying "Is the Big Sky ready for this UND offense"?? Sheesh

Most of the game I listened to the SDSU announcers ... that is when the video was working

[No_Skill]

UND comes up short on 4th down....SDSU win 49-41...Muss showered in Gatorade

fixed it........

[tjbison]

I don't know about the offense, but the entire Big Fluffy is pretty excited about the UND defense.

EWU, isgonna tear them apart, if MSU got a passing game so will they, jury still out on the Grz

[coldspot]

Hambone angry. That is all.

I would be too. If they would've brought anything that remotely resembled a defense, they very well would've won that game. the top of the BSC is licking their chops right now after seeing how pathetic that defensive performance was.

[loudsilverado]

Darrell and the minions on SS bragging about how good their team is and bringing up how SDSU is better than Prairie View. WOW

[BisonBabe]

On another note UND is winning versus Mich St

[BisonBabe]

Darrell and the minions on SS bragging about how good their team is and bringing up how SDSU is better than Prairie View. WOW

I saw that as well ... funny how they leave out the School of Mines for their opener

[MNLonghorn10]

down goes usc/msu/north dakota?

texas kickin the teeth in on an secsecsecsec team?

great night.

[NDSUstudent]

UND fans are really bragging about a game that involved them losing?

[Bisonguy]

EWU, isgonna tear them apart, if MSU got a passing game so will they, jury still out on the Grz

SDSU put up almost 300 rushing yards on the UND defense. I'm not so sure MSU will need a passing game.

[tony]

Notre Dame wins... wow, Big 10 is not very good.

[ThunderDan]

San Diego State is not a better than average FBS team. Their fans think they are, and I'm sure UND fans will say they are as well. Let the UND is better than NDSU talk begin.
UND offense is better than ours though. Maybe it's because they have more playmakers, maybe it's because they have a better O Coordinator, maybe a combination of both. Our D would hold them under 20 though, which is something most, if not all, Big Sky teams won't do this year. Too bad for UND their defense is horrendous.

[MNLonghorn10]

lol @ north dakota...2-1...lulz.

[No_Skill]

UND fans are really bragging about a game that involved them losing?

Are you new here?

[Swaghook]

San Diego State is not a better than average FBS team. Their fans think they are, and I'm sure UND fans will say they are as well. Let the UND is better than NDSU talk begin.
UND offense is better than ours though. Maybe it's because they have more playmakers, maybe it's because they have a better O Coordinator, maybe a combination of both. Our D would hold them under 20 though, which is something most, if not all, Big Sky teams won't do this year. Too bad for UND their defense is horrendous.

I don't think their O is better. Our O game is all about eating the clock not run and gun scoring.

[No_Skill]

I don't think their O is better. Our O game is all about eating the clock not run and gun scoring.

Bingo...totally different animals.

[NDSUstudent]

They aren't really bragging about it, at least most aren't. Maybe they are finally starting to get it up there. I doubt it though.

[56BISON73]

San Diego State is not a better than average FBS team. Their fans think they are, and I'm sure UND fans will say they are as well. Let the UND is better than NDSU talk begin.
UND offense is better than ours though. Maybe it's because they have more playmakers, maybe it's because they have a better O Coordinator, maybe a combination of both. Our D would hold them under 20 though, which is something most, if not all, Big Sky teams won't do this year. Too bad for UND their defense is horrendous.

Better??? Hard to compare when they run two different styles of offense.

[tjbison]

They aren't really bragging about it, at least most aren't. Maybe they are finally starting to get it up there. I doubt it though.

Just like here, some get it and some don't......we have the same crap on here

[Tatanka]

It's doubtful they will face a real defense all year. Their offense will serve them well in teh big fluffy. As for their "defense", who was the choad that was breaking things down position by position and saying they were on par with NDSU... Clearly that is false by any objective measure.

[Mr. Burgundy]

San Diego State is not a better than average FBS team. Their fans think they are, and I'm sure UND fans will say they are as well. Let the UND is better than NDSU talk begin.
UND offense is better than ours though. Maybe it's because they have more playmakers, maybe it's because they have a better O Coordinator, maybe a combination of both. Our D would hold them under 20 though, which is something most, if not all, Big Sky teams won't do this year. Too bad for UND their defense is horrendous.

54% completion percentage, 15 rushes for 30 yards, a pick 6, and their offense is better. Glad you care. I will take a 40 minute time of possession and a butt kicking instead of throwing it 50 times and playing from behind because you can't stop anyone. That is football. Big sky doesn't play the same brand of football.

No question they are better and this new QB is stepping up when needed, but they can't open up a hole for anyone, and other teams will eventually force them to run the ball to be successful. Balance is key at any level.

[Mr. Burgundy]

It's doubtful they will face a real defense all year. Their offense will serve them well in teh big fluffy. As for their "defense", who was the choad that was breaking things down position by position and saying they were on par with NDSU... Clearly that is false by any objective measure.

Please find that post!

[BadlandsBison]

Better??? Hard to compare when they run two different styles of offense.

Right. For what the bison do on offense rthey do it pretty well

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[BlueBisonRock]

Thanks for all the updates. Spent the day "on a boat" and missed the games, but what is a guy to do on one of the last summer days. I did sacrifice my cell phone to the FB gods. It is currently on the bottom of the Mississippi trying to connect the fish to the real world.

-- Call me maybe? --

[HerdBot]

After listening to Jack Michael's you would think UND won the game because they missed a 4th and 17 by a foot when they dropped back. They lost again. They are 7-0 in moral victories. Offense looked good but this is the words defense I have ever seen. And they have gone up against bad defenses. Portland State allowed 52 today and fired their defensive coordinator . San Diego State has a bad pass defense. They shut down army who threw the ball 8 times. The Mountain West sucks. Poly beat Wyoming today. Obviously CSU sucks. The UND defense is so bad. Its one of the worst I have ever seen. When they play the good teams, they will get a reality check. We would beat them by 4 TDs. Our offense would carve up their defense. Our defense is the toughest they have every seen. Do you know how far back you have to go to see how long its been since we allowed 49 points? We allowed 48 points COMBINED against James Madison, Lehigh, Georgia Southern, Sam Houston, Robert Morris, and Colorado State. All those teams, except RMU, are tough.

[ThunderDan]

Better??? Hard to compare when they run two different styles of offense.

Isn't the point of offense to score? Please correct me if I'm wrong......So, the only way to compare would be to go by which team is capable of putting up more points. I think their offense is much more capable of putting up more points than ours. Doesn't mean they are a better team. People get too butt hurt around here if you say anything positive about UND. We would still beat them handily, so please, step off of the ledge.

[tjbison]

Isn't the point of offense to score? Please correct me if I'm wrong......So, the only way to compare would be to go by which team is capable of putting up more points. I think their offense is much more capable of putting up more points than ours. Doesn't mean they are a better team. People get too butt hurt around here if you say anything positive about UND. We would still beat them handily, so please, step off of the ledge.

Think your misunderstanding.......

[Bison bison]

I'm looking forward to UND breaking into the polls on Monday...

[NDSUstudent]

Isn't the point of offense to score? Please correct me if I'm wrong......So, the only way to compare would be to go by which team is capable of putting up more points. I think their offense is much more capable of putting up more points than ours. Doesn't mean they are a better team. People get too butt hurt around here if you say anything positive about UND. We would still beat them handily, so please, step off of the ledge.

The point is to win the game...our offense is completely different than theirs. If we had to chase points because our defense was so bad our offense would score more points.

[HerdBot]

San Diego State is not a better than average FBS team. Their fans think they are, and I'm sure UND fans will say they are as well. Let the UND is better than NDSU talk begin.
UND offense is better than ours though. Maybe it's because they have more playmakers, maybe it's because they have a better O Coordinator, maybe a combination of both. Our D would hold them under 20 though, which is something most, if not all, Big Sky teams won't do this year. Too bad for UND their defense is horrendous.

Agree completely. After another FBS loss (in a weak conference) the Big Undies will be pimping his team. Not sure why after a loss. And you have to look at matchups anyway.

Our offense vs their defense = any team can score 40-50 on UND. San Diego State basicaly ran at will. They ran for nearly 300 and barely threw the ball. Sounds familiar. We dominate

Our defense vs their offense = We have one of the top defenses in the nation on any level. Remember Sam Houstons great offense? Lehigh? FBS Colorado State? We would shut them down, just like we shut down every team. I highly doubt UND's offense is better than every team we faced in the playoffs. UND likes the pass? Our strength is rushing the passer and our corners run 5 deep.

We would beat UND by 4 TD's.

[KilldeerBison]

Isn't the point of offense to score? Please correct me if I'm wrong......So, the only way to compare would be to go by which team is capable of putting up more points. I think their offense is much more capable of putting up more points than ours. Doesn't mean they are a better team. People get too butt hurt around here if you say anything positive about UND. We would still beat them handily, so please, step off of the ledge.

So, how would we win if their offense would put up more points? By scoring on defense? Trying to follow your logic.

[ThunderDan]

So, how would we win if their offense would put up more points? By scoring on defense? Trying to follow your logic.

I didn't mean that they would put up more points than us in a head to head matchup What I meant, is if we played the same exact schedule, UND would score more points per game than us. Doesn't mean they would win more, since their defense is horrible. Our defense is incredible. It's how we won a National Championship last year.

[Hammersmith]

What a cluster-f ending to Utah/BYU! Down by three, BYU attempts a pass on 3rd and long with only a few seconds left on the clock. The ball gets deflected and hangs in the air before hitting the ground. The refs let the clock expire and the Utah team and fans rush the field. BYU says there should still be a second left on the clock. The refs review and agree. The fans leave the field. BYU tries a 53yrd field goal to tie the game. The kick is blocked and the fans rush the field for a second time. But they rushed before the play was dead. The refs call a live-ball foul on Utah. 15 yards, automatic 1st down, untimed play. BYU now attempts a 38yrd field goal. The ball hits the uprights and deflects away. The fans rush the field for a third time and the game is finally over.

[Ross]

What a cluster-f ending to Utah/BYU! Down by three, BYU attempts a pass on 3rd and long with only a few seconds left on the clock. The ball gets deflected and hangs in the air before hitting the ground. The refs let the clock expire and the Utah team and fans rush the field. BYU says there should still be a second left on the clock. The refs review and agree. The fans leave the field. BYU tries a 53yrd field goal to tie the game. The kick is blocked and the fans rush the field for a second time. But they rushed before the play was dead. The refs call a live-ball foul on Utah. 15 yards, automatic 1st down, untimed play. BYU now attempts a 38yrd field goal. The ball hits the uprights and deflects away. The fans rush the field for a third time and the game is finally over.

Just think if you were a Utah fan and were in the house for that game! A one of a kind experience!

[MNLonghorn10]

some good gems from the board of the team that has 0 fbs wins.



Good game, the Pick 6 came up to be a big part of the game. This game even as a loss show that UND can be a top FCS team, expecially because NDSU is #1 and they only won 21-7 over a terrible Colorado State team. I think UND would beat NDSU this year, passing offense is just too good.


Haha, UND did just fine tonight. We have some absolute STUDS on O, defense is suspect. I'd like our chances against the team from Fargo this year. We will have to wait til playoffs for a chance though.


NDSU is a good team, but by how their fans make them seems so great is overkill. I think it would be a quality matchup. If they want to bring up National Championships and FBS wins to a team just out of the transition period, then we can brag about how UND has 7 Hockey championships to NDSU 0?

UND played a great game, and had some good defensive plays from time to time, they know their offense is good, now they can focus on their defense

[td577]

I like the post from the butthockey guy. Just out of transition leaves some excuse room? Some teams in the area were beating FBS teams and ranked #1 during their transition. Butthockey...

[Bison bison]

I like the article in Herald about UND's goal now being to beat the FBS teams they play - WHAT A GOAL!


(I really did like that he could write an article without mentioning NDSU.)

[tjbison]

some good gems from the board of the team that has 0 fbs wins.

I had to respond to a couple of them, couldn't help it

[td577]

I like the article in Herald about UND's goal now being to beat the FBS teams they play - WHAT A GOAL!


(I really did like that he could write an article without mentioning NDSU.)

I would think their goals would be to win the conference, get into the playoffs, and win a national championship. Fbs victories are good for confidence but you start running after that goal and the others get lost. Beating fbs schools should never be the pinnacle of a program. National championships should be the standard you shoot for. Butthockey...

[tjbison]

I would think their goals would be to win the conference, get into the playoffs, and win a national championship. Fbs victories are good for confidence but you start running after that goal and the others get lost. Beating fbs schools should never be the pinnacle of a program. National championships should be the standard you shoot for. Butthockey...

Well what he meant was they are doing everything they can to try and catch NDSU and what they have accomplished against FBS

[BisonNation11]

Well what he meant was they are doing everything they can to try and catch NDSU and what they have accomplished against FBS

So is the rest of the country

[344Johnson]

Isn't the point of offense to score? Please correct me if I'm wrong......So, the only way to compare would be to go by which team is capable of putting up more points. I think their offense is much more capable of putting up more points than ours. Doesn't mean they are a better team. People get too butt hurt around here if you say anything positive about UND. We would still beat them handily, so please, step off of the ledge.

The objective on offense is to score more than the other team does.

[tjbison]

The objective on offense is to score more than the other team does.

That's called winning

[loudsilverado]

The objective on offense is to score more than the other team does.

This right here. I don't care if UND can light it up and score 70, you still lose if the other team scores 71. Our offense is designed to score just 1 more than the opposing team and not to have to chase points. It's the way the Bison are made and we win with it.

[BisonBabe]

I had to respond to a couple of them, couldn't help it


I thought about it but could not remember my password ....

[BisonTeacher]

Thanks for all the updates. Spent the day "on a boat" and missed the games, but what is a guy to do on one of the last summer days. I did sacrifice my cell phone to the FB gods. It is currently on the bottom of the Mississippi trying to connect the fish to the real world.

-- Call me maybe? --

Rock...I tried calling your phone and I got this text/pic message in return. I'm guessing its somehow related to the incident.

http://www.atthecreation.com/UNDERWATER/6046.beer.can.jpg

[SDbison]

This right here. I don't care if UND can light it up and score 70, you still lose if the other team scores 71. Our offense is designed to score just 1 more than the opposing team and not to have to chase points. It's the way the Bison are made and we win with it. I certainly hope that is not the case. If your goal is to only score 1 more than the opponent you will lose several games. Its called football......the ball is not round and bounces funny. Tipped balls, special teams play, a rare broken coverage, etc. can burn a team and they find themselves down late in a game. It is always good to score as many as you can as long as you make few if any mistakes and your defense is good. I still think NDSU's offense is sub par, as most who are not pure homers would agree. The question is will the defense score points in every game and can the offense rise to the occasion if needed. I have my doubts and think it is a terrible offensive game plan that will eventually burn NDSU during the season or in the playoffs. UND needs to improve their defense a lot.........NDSU needs to somewhat improve their offense.

[Ross]

I don't comprehend the "our offense is so amazing" frame of mind that is coming from the undies. In that game last night against San Diego State, both team's defenses might as well have been tackling dummies with jerseys on. I did not see any of the undies first 2 games but I'd be willing to bet that the Mines D was worse than SDSU and Portland State was about on par with SDSU.

[344Johnson]

lol they think Hardin is the best in the country.

[tjbison]

I certainly hope that is not the case. If your goal is to only score 1 more than the opponent you will lose several games. Its called football......the ball is not round and bounces funny. Tipped balls, special teams play, a rare broken coverage, etc. can burn a team and they find themselves down late in a game. It is always good to score as many as you can as long as you make few if any mistakes and your defense is good. I still think NDSU's offense is sub par, as most who are not pure homers would agree. The question is will the defense score points in every game and can the offense rise to the occasion if needed. I have my doubts and think it is a terrible offensive game plan that will eventually burn NDSU during the season or in the playoffs. UND needs to improve their defense a lot.........NDSU needs to somewhat improve their offense.

Agreed, but just look at the CSU game, had several of the balls that were placed in the numbers been hauled in by the receivers he have 14-21 more points, the offense itself works but the execution is suspect, IMO

[BlueBisonRock]

Rock...I tried calling your phone and I got this text/pic message in return. I'm guessing its somehow related to the incident.

http://www.atthecreation.com/UNDERWATER/6046.beer.can.jpg

I was wondering what happened to that beer.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Can't believe Idaho is hanging with LSU.......sort of. At half LSU 28, Idaho 14. What's up Sav?

It ended alright imo. Lsu lost their LT who was suppose to be a first round pick and they're experimenting different replacements well one of them allowed back to back sacks then didn't touch the field after that.

[Swaghook]

I certainly hope that is not the case. If your goal is to only score 1 more than the opponent you will lose several games. Its called football......the ball is not round and bounces funny. Tipped balls, special teams play, a rare broken coverage, etc. can burn a team and they find themselves down late in a game. It is always good to score as many as you can as long as you make few if any mistakes and your defense is good. I still think NDSU's offense is sub par, as most who are not pure homers would agree. The question is will the defense score points in every game and can the offense rise to the occasion if needed. I have my doubts and think it is a terrible offensive game plan that will eventually burn NDSU during the season or in the playoffs. UND needs to improve their defense a lot.........NDSU needs to somewhat improve their offense.

There is always room for improvement on both sides of the ball. The coaches know that and I would certainly hope the players realize that as well. I don't think our offense is merely designed to score 1 more then our opponents merely that it is designed as a ball control offense that gets a good lead and holds it while taking away the clock needed for the opponent to mount a come back.

Between UND and NDSU, NDSU will have to go through a much tougher conference to earn a play off spot. And I personally do not see UND earning a play off spot with their current level of play the BSC will sort it's self out and UND will be lucky to crack the top 5 in the BSC.

[BisoninNWMN]

I certainly hope that is not the case. If your goal is to only score 1 more than the opponent you will lose several games. Its called football......the ball is not round and bounces funny. Tipped balls, special teams play, a rare broken coverage, etc. can burn a team and they find themselves down late in a game. It is always good to score as many as you can as long as you make few if any mistakes and your defense is good. I still think NDSU's offense is sub par, as most who are not pure homers would agree. The question is will the defense score points in every game and can the offense rise to the occasion if needed. I have my doubts and think it is a terrible offensive game plan that will eventually burn NDSU during the season or in the playoffs. UND needs to improve their defense a lot.........NDSU needs to somewhat improve their offense.


Not sub-par but it can definitely get better. I think our WRs are getting better each week, so that should make our passing game better.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Im curious to why this thread was mainly bout und....who honeslty gives a $%@& about them??? Let them compare all they want, let themes think they played well. Im shocked many of you followed this game.

[tjbison]

Im curious to why this thread was mainly bout und....who honeslty gives a $%@& about them??? Let them compare all they want, let themes think they played well. Im shocked many of you followed this game.

I followed all the FCS vs FBS games yesterday, this happens to be one. Nothing wrong with that

[Mr. Burgundy]

If our defense gave up 500 plus yards in back to back games, Bisonville would explode. Heads would roll. They seem pretty content with the fact that they are passing for alot of yards. I guess that is impressive, or just means that you are losing and can't stop anything. I am shocked they went to Big Sky ball and left their big boy pants in D2. They stopped caring about running the ball and they are having the ball pushed down their throat.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I followed all the FCS vs FBS games yesterday, this happens to be one. Nothing wrong with that

Follow is one thing but going on their board to see what they have to say and discussing it i guess idont understand why people seem to care bout them. They're in our past and shouldnt matter. Now talking bout uni sdsu ill st indian st etc actually matters cuz we play them.

[NDSUstudent]

Cal Poly ran for 325 yards and held Wyo to 2/12 on third down, take note UND fans because that is how you win FBS games.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Take a look at the UND boxscore and then the Raiders/Dolphins boxscore. Very similar. Raiders and Sioux were always behind and passed for 50% and a ton of yards while SDSU and the Dolphins had a high efficient passing game and literally ran it down their throat. Do you think Raiders fans are saying "We have an awesome passing game?" "Nobody can match our receivers?" No, they are probably saying, you can't win while the other team kicks your ass. If the Raiders/North Dakota can't run the ball, or stop the run, you can't win. If we ever have to throw the ball 50 time someone better muzzle me. That is exactly how you lose. Enjoy your we are getting our butts kicked stats.

[NDSUstudent]

SD I wouldn't call our offense sub par, it is actually pretty efficient and we take care of the ball. It isn't prolific by any means but it is above average. I'll reserve judgement on UND's offense until I get a bigger sample size, but if they can't run the ball they'll be a .500 team or worse.

[Grizzled]

Some of you guys (Burgandy) are letting your hate for UND cloud your memory for what their offense has alwas been. UND has never been a big time running football team. They did it to keep you honest. Way back in the day when Todd Kovash was their QB we didn't beat them by stopping the run, things didn't change after he left. They threw for 300+ back than as well. They have never lined up and pounded it at anyone and beat them simply by running the football.

[56BISON73]

I certainly hope that is not the case. If your goal is to only score 1 more than the opponent you will lose several games. Its called football......the ball is not round and bounces funny. Tipped balls, special teams play, a rare broken coverage, etc. can burn a team and they find themselves down late in a game. It is always good to score as many as you can as long as you make few if any mistakes and your defense is good. I still think NDSU's offense is sub par, as most who are not pure homers would agree. The question is will the defense score points in every game and can the offense rise to the occasion if needed. I have my doubts and think it is a terrible offensive game plan that will eventually burn NDSU during the season or in the playoffs. UND needs to improve their defense a lot.........NDSU needs to somewhat improve their offense.

The style of offense we run isnt made to run up a bunch of points. This year so far we have a better passing game which will open up the O some what. But I certainly wouldnt call our O sub par. It is what it is and they arent going to change it any time soon.

[dragonsfan]

my dragons lost. again.

[tony]

The style of offense we run isnt made to run up a bunch of points. This year so far we have a better passing game which will open up the O some what. But I certainly wouldnt call our O sub par. It is what it is and they arent going to change it any time soon.

I'm going to get called crazy for this, but UND might be a better football team with NDSU's offense.

[56BISON73]

I'm going to get called crazy for this, but UND might be a better football team with NDSU's offense.

Cant argue that. We play a control game. Even though I havent seen the northerners play it sounds as though they air the ball out which doesnt lead to controlling field position or the clock.

[344Johnson]

I'm going to get called crazy for this, but UND might be a better football team with NDSU's offense.

It would keep that attrocious defense off the field.

[NorthernBison]

Cant argue that. We play a control game. Even though I havent seen the northerners play it sounds as though they air the ball out which doesnt lead to controlling field position or the clock.

They have had success airing it out but I don't think they really want to play that way. Against Portland State, they rushed it 35 times and threw it 25 times. (they didn't run the ball well at all). Against San Diego, they ran it 27 times and threw it 50 times. (they didn't run it well as they only got 55 yards and they threw it so much because they were behind all the time).

Their fans should be very concerned that they don't seem able to run the ball on offense. Their defense is a mess. They don't seem to be able to stop the run or the pass.

I think UND really wants to run an offense similar to what we do but their defense hasn't allowed them to do it. I believe their O Line is bigger than ours and they would like to have a power running game. So far, they always get behind and it turns into a shootout.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Some of you guys (Burgandy) are letting your hate for UND cloud your memory for what their offense has alwas been. UND has never been a big time running football team. They did it to keep you honest. Way back in the day when Todd Kovash was their QB we didn't beat them by stopping the run, things didn't change after he left. They threw for 300+ back than as well. They have never lined up and pounded it at anyone and beat them simply by running the football.

From the media day today....seems like Coach Stig agrees with me. Interesting quote from Brookings today....

“That’s how you win football games,” Jacks coach John Stiegelmeier said. “When you look at score and they look like basketball scores – that’s not good football.”

[Bison bison]

Stupid quote.

UND is a hockey school.

[gotts]

Stupid quote.

UND is a hockey school.

So both teams had their goalies pulled for the entire game then?

[Kermit]

....seems like Coach Stig agrees with me.


Never thought I'd see the day. Does this mean you're not in charge of personnel (unless the "personnel" is your starting QB who has a concussion)?

[344Johnson]

I think UND really wants to run an offense similar to what we do but their defense hasn't allowed them to do it. I believe their O Line is bigger than ours and they would like to have a power running game. So far, they always get behind and it turns into a shootout.

Having a big line is fine and dandy but if you cant move the D-Line at all...well then that big line is kind of worthless.

[Kermit]

Having a big line is fine and dandy but if you cant move the D-Line at all...well then that big line is kind of worthless.

Right now the Bison probably have the smallest (lightest) offensive line they've had in years. I've been very impressed with their athleticism and footwork. Joe Haeg is a little over a year removed from coming in as a walk-on and he has done very well.

I can't discuss the o-line without giving the tight ends and fullbacks some props. Grothman crushes people. Bonnet got called for holding at the end of the 10 minute drive in the 3rd quarter in FoCo. I've rewatched that play over and over. All I see is a sustained block that he finished by putting a guy on his back--questionable call at best.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Never thought I'd see the day. Does this mean you're not in charge of personnel (unless the "personnel" is your starting QB who has a concussion)?

Speaking of blasts from the pasts in regards to SDSU football.....they are ripping on their own punt returner for fielding a punt inside the 10 yard line......remember when that guy took one on his own 4 against us? Drago was punting....I assume 2007, or I wouldn't care...haha. i said...."not a good football play to field a punt on your own 4." Suddenly their fans agree. It just takes time Kermit...eventually everyone agrees with me. Life is much easier that way. We should hunt and fish together! How about golf and fish actually?

[Kermit]

It just takes time Kermit...eventually everyone agrees with me.

Gotchya. ;)
http://researchgoddess.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/thanchorman.jpg

[NorthernBison]

Having a big line is fine and dandy but if you cant move the D-Line at all...well then that big line is kind of worthless.

Gee, thanks for the input. ESPN is hiring. :biggrin:

I only pointed it out because it doesn't appear that they have radically changed the players they recruit. Historically, UND has always run more of a pro-style offense and relied on large Offensive linemen. They were doing that back in the days when we were still running the veer.

They would love to be more balanced in their attack. I don't know if their OL is unathletic or just young and hasn't gelled yet. Either way, they haven't shown the ability to consistently run the ball in the last two games and at the end of last year.