NDSU vs. Dicksinson State Men

[Buffalo.Rider]

I found this interesting.
Impressed with Trevor Barry's showing at the NDSU-UND-SDSU meet last Friday, and the comment from BadlandBison, I compared the two schools. Dickinson State does not get the press or attention as NDSU does, but they have an impressive tradition.


Event NDSU DSU
100m 10.22 10.28
200m 20.23 20.81
400m 46.69 45.43
800m 1:47.80 1:52.60
1500m 3:42.85 3:51.8
5000m 14:12.19 14:16.4
10000m 29:33.70 31:35.10

110m H 13.99 13.6
400m H 51.69 50.69
3000m St 8:48.67 9:08.9
4x100m R 40.00 40.04
4x400m R 3:07.75 3:06.60
Dist Medley R 9:41.85 10:20.80

Shot Put 55-9.5 58-7.25
Discuss 175-9 181-6
Hammer 197-7 195-3
Javelin 228-11 217-11
High Jump 7-0.25 7-3
Long Jump 25-11 25-8
Tr Jump 51-9.25 51-0.25
Decathlon 7,641 6,965

[westnodak93bison]

Makes a guy wonder how they recruit world class athletes to a small school in western ND. I grew up near Dickinson so I know the area.
After the fake diploma ordeal lately it got me wondering about their sports teams and if there could be some funny business taking place.

[Twentysix]

Makes a guy wonder how they recruit world class athletes to a small school in western ND. I grew up near Dickinson so I know the area.
After the fake diploma ordeal lately it got me wondering about their sports teams and if there could be some funny business taking place.

They were being paid academic scholarships for playing sports after having their entire tuition waived under global awareness and cultural diversity tuition waivers.

"DSU used one fund to pay Roughrider Scholarships in the 2009-2011
biennium. Based on our review of this fund, it appears awards were
made to over 370 recipients in the biennium. Based on our analysis of
the awards made by DSU, we concluded approximately 87% of the
$350,000 was awarded to students involved in athletics or rodeo."

"In a review of selected Roughrider Scholarship recipients, we identified
DSU made awards to students which were inconsistent with the
established guidelines for the scholarship."

"For example, one recipient
received a $4,000 Roughrider Scholarship ($2,000 per semester). The
guidelines identify a maximum award of $1,000 ($500 per semester)."

"According to the guidelines of the Roughrider Scholarship, the
scholarships were available for high school graduates and community
college transfer students enrolling at DSU. We identified awards made
to various individuals who were not meeting this requirement."

"Cultural Diversity Tuition Waivers: 100% and 75% cultural tuition
waivers appear to be made available exclusively to student athletes."

"Global Awareness Tuition Waivers: 100% global tuition waivers
appear to be made available exclusively to student athletes."

Twelve pages of this report are dedicated solely to misuse of waivers and scholarships.


http://www.nd.gov/auditor/reports/3031_12.pdf

That is straight from the auditor report. They were NAIA Ohio State.

[Castor Troy]

I can see that the records are similar, but there is no comparison to these programs. DSU
goes out and gets 4 hired guns from the Caribbean and that is their entire team. The Bison would smoke them in head to head competition as well as in conference competition. Oh
and i am not real impressed with the whole cheater thing either.

[North Side]

http://thetribune.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2012/05/11/RAMON_MILLER_t670.jpg?b3f6a5d7692ccc373d56e40cf708 e3fa67d9af9d
Something is fishy when DSU has Ramon Miller on their team. He won a Silver Medal in the last Olympics for the Bahamas. It cool that talent is in North Dakota.

[North Side]

but DSU needs to be cleaned up!

[semobison]

I can see that the records are similar, but there is no comparison to these programs. DSU
goes out and gets 4 hired guns from the Caribbean and that is their entire team. The Bison would smoke them in head to head competition as well as in conference competition. Oh
and i am not real impressed with the whole cheater thing either.

No DSU is not on NDSU's level but lets not disregard the programs success completely. They have been successful in NAIA and their conference in Track and field since the 60's long before they recuited the Bahamas. Louis Clarks 13.6 and 50.7 hurdle marks are from the early 70's! A guy by the name of Whiting was running sub 49 quarters in the mid 60's for the then called Savages!... I do agree that the recent mess there need to be cleaned up!

[Buffalo.Rider]

Ramon Miller's silver medal in the Beijing Olympics was in the 4x400.

[tony]

Silver medal in the World Championships in the 100 (according to an old Bisonville thread.)

[semobison]

Silver medal in the World Championships in the 100 (according to an old Bisonville thread.)

Derrick Atkins who went to DSU won a silver in the 100 at the Worlds in 07. Trevor Barry from DSU took bronze at last years Worlds in the High Jump.

[tony]

I'd have liked to see their 4x400 relay team - holy cow.