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TheBisonator
02-04-2012, 12:30 PM
This is a biggun tonight. ORU comes in at 20-5 and 12-1 in the Summit. Bison come in at 15-7 and 8-4 in the Summit. A Bison win brings us to 2.5 games behind ORU with 5 conference games left.

Let's go out tonight and show ORU the way to the Southland with beating them!!

Gooooo Bison!!

BisonTeacher
02-04-2012, 12:53 PM
This is a biggun tonight. ORU comes in at 20-5 and 12-1 in the Summit. Bison come in at 15-7 and 8-4 in the Summit. A Bison win brings us to 2.5 games behind ORU with 5 conference games left.

Let's go out tonight and show ORU the way to the Southland with beating them!!

Gooooo Bison!!

I am planning my whole night around this game. Looking forward to watching it. Lets hope they get a jump start like they did Thursday night.

SiouxFallsJack
02-04-2012, 03:24 PM
Good luck tonight guys and send ORU home with another loss.

jimmyptubas
02-04-2012, 03:39 PM
I will be vacationing out in Breezy Point MN but don't think I wont' have gobison or radio tuned in! Go Bison! This should be a good one!

SUPERBUNNY
02-04-2012, 04:53 PM
Just want to let you know that us Bunny fans are counting on you guys tonight! Get it done and help a former NCC brother out! Will definitely be keeping an eye on the iPhone to see what's happening in the BSA tonight!

Would love to see SDSU slip into the number one spot for the Summit tournament and see the Bison lock up the 3 spot to set up a potential XDSUs final. Without the win tonight by the Bison, I'm pulling for you to be the four seed with the hope of the same result in the final.

Give 'em hell and hit the Eagles in the mouth like we did! They didn't like it!

SUPERBUNNY

North Side
02-04-2012, 04:56 PM
I am going to miss these ORU games. I hope we end it with a W!

SUPERBUNNY
02-04-2012, 05:01 PM
I am going to miss these ORU games. I hope we end it with a W!

I said the same thing on our board. They always have solid teams for the men and the women and I think Sutton is a pretty class act. Sad to see a strong conference member leave. Makes it even tougher for the eventual conference goal of getting two teams into the NCAA Tournament. Where can we get another school with strong programs like ORU? The Sue? NOT!!

SUPERBUNNY

roadwarrior
02-04-2012, 05:15 PM
Article in today's Forum:

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/349654/group/Sports/


There is so much respect, Sutton said he would consider scheduling a home-and-home series with the Bison in the future.

roadwarrior
02-04-2012, 05:17 PM
More quotes from Coach Sutton in the Forum article:


“My players and assistants probably think I’m crazy wanting to come back to Fargo, but I enjoy it,” Sutton said. “It may be a lot harder to win up here. But it’s always an exciting atmosphere. As a coach and a player, you would much rather play in that than an empty gymnasium.”

Speaking about the game in Fargo in 2008:


“Their students got on me pretty good,” Sutton said. “Now normally, I don’t let that kind of thing get to me. But I do remember looking back at them and saying ‘Guys, we’re not that bad, we are 16-1 in the league.’ To be honest, I’m going to miss that.”

JackJD
02-04-2012, 05:30 PM
Any reports on ORU's guard, Pearson -- will he play? He was holding his left wrist and walking pretty slowly when he left Frost Arena Thursday after a collision at the end of the game. He's a very good player and ORU needs him if they expect to be in the game at Fargo. If he's not playing or if he plays but is slowed by injuries, that will be a game changer.

Dominic Morrison (scored 38 vs SDSU at Tulsa but was declawed, defanged and fouled out with a lot of time left in Frost Thursday night -- I don't think Morrison fouls out much) will probably be primed to light it up tonight to make up for a weak showing in Brookings. Jackrabbit defense was very stout Thursday...don't know if Coach Philips could watch any video on that game but we demonstrated how to take the starch out of ORU.

I'll be in Frost Arena for the SUU games but will be checking 790 (might not get a signal inside Frost...the signal is weak or non-existent just south of Watertown) and the internet from time to time on the Bison progress against ORU. Good luck...pound 'em if you can!

HoopsBison
02-04-2012, 05:36 PM
Sutton is a high quality coach who always has a good product on the floor. It sucks losing a program like Oral Roberts from the Summit League but it has it reasons for doing so. I hope we have a terrific game tonight in what should be a good atmosphere. I wish them the best of luck next year and if something can be arranged in future scheduling that would be fantastic.


GO BISON

Kermit
02-04-2012, 05:40 PM
Any reports on ORU's guard, Pearson -- will he play? He was holding his left wrist and walking pretty slowly when he left Frost Arena Thursday after a collision at the end of the game. He's a very good player and ORU needs him if they expect to be in the game at Fargo. If he's not playing or if he plays but is slowed by injuries, that will be a game changer.

Dominic Morrison (scored 38 vs SDSU at Tulsa but was declawed, defanged and fouled out with a lot of time left in Frost Thursday night -- I don't think Morrison fouls out much) will probably be primed to light it up tonight to make up for a weak showing in Brookings. Jackrabbit defense was very stout Thursday...don't know if Coach Philips could watch any video on that game but we demonstrated how to take the starch out of ORU.

I'll be in Frost Arena for the SUU games but will be checking 790 (might not get a signal inside Frost...the signal is weak or non-existent just south of Watertown) and the internet from time to time on the Bison progress against ORU. Good luck...pound 'em if you can!

The ORU radio guy tweeter yesterday that Pearson was practicing and he seemed fine.

I expect the Bison will see a different ORU team than the Jacks saw on Thursday. They seem to think they played very poorly. I don't mean to take anything away from SDSU. The Jacks are a really good team and I don't know if ORU could've gotten a different result with their A game. I can't wait.

Go Bison!!

VanClubPres
02-04-2012, 06:20 PM
A win would be a great way to "end" (see roadwarriors Foolum quotes) this in season rivalry. I really hope the crowd comes out and is as loud as they were late against Teh Wabbits.

ndsubison1
02-04-2012, 06:48 PM
More quotes from Coach Sutton in the Forum article:



Speaking about the game in Fargo in 2008:

i remember that game! haha. one thing i dont like about the game tonight is that it's during the the KU-Mizzou game :(

Tatanka
02-04-2012, 08:36 PM
i remember that game! haha. one thing i dont like about the game tonight is that it's during the the KU-Mizzou game :(

THIS. Fortunately the Mizzou - KU game is on ESPN3 and will be available to watch when I get home. :)

North Side
02-04-2012, 08:57 PM
I sat in the front row behind ORU bench for the 2008 game. I remember Sutton finally getting upset enough to turn around and talk to the students section haha that was a great game.

BisonTeacher
02-04-2012, 08:58 PM
THIS. Fortunately the Mizzou - KU game is on ESPN3 and will be available to watch when I get home. :)

Or he could just hook up a computer to his tv and use the PIP feature to watch both at the same time. ;-)

ndsubison1
02-04-2012, 09:18 PM
THIS. Fortunately the Mizzou - KU game is on ESPN3 and will be available to watch when I get home. :)

i will be able to watch on my phone at the game so im set :)

Jay
02-04-2012, 09:30 PM
Off to Wings to get a good pre-game buzz. DVR'ing the KU game, hopefully I don't see any updates. Go Bison!

TheBisonator
02-04-2012, 11:09 PM
Geez Louise... The Wyoming students get to storm the court after beating UNLV, the Northern Iowa students storm the court after beating Creighton, I don't think the NDSU students will be storming the court tonight. Not because we'll lose, but because ORU isn't ranked, and it's tough with the students behind a huge media table and the players benches.

(I like our chances of winning, BTW)

SDbison
02-05-2012, 12:12 AM
Any updates?

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 12:17 AM
Any updates?

7:30 Tip SD.

SDbison
02-05-2012, 12:21 AM
Thanks........I am at the fargo force sioux falls stampede hockey game tonite.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 12:34 AM
anyone elses feed from go bison dark? It was like that for the end of the womens game as well?

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 12:34 AM
If this shit keeps buffering all night, I am going to fucking LOSE it.

MN_BISON
02-05-2012, 12:36 AM
If this shit keeps buffering all night, I am going to fucking LOSE it.

I'm with you Nator, I turned on the women's game for a while and there was no buffering at all and now this shit.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 12:38 AM
Some different group is doing this webcast tonight. It's not the same type of webcast I've seen the rest of the year.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 12:39 AM
Bison up 7-6 15:56

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 12:41 AM
Is this their backup system?? Seriously, this is not the webcast I'm used to.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 12:49 AM
Bison up 16-14 10:30

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 12:50 AM
Place looks packed on the video, and I'm the only one in this thread. I really should've driven up for the game today.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 12:50 AM
You cant even see if the basket goes in or not.

Wally
02-05-2012, 12:50 AM
Is this their backup system?? Seriously, this is not the webcast I'm used to.


Its brutal. Looks like colecovision basketball.
http://www.oldgamesnews.com/coleco_games/img/one_on_one_basketball_coleco.jpg

MN_BISON
02-05-2012, 12:50 AM
Is this their backup system?? Seriously, this is not the webcast I'm used to.

Not sure, all I know is it's not buffering any more.

SDbison
02-05-2012, 12:52 AM
Thanks for the updates............keep them coming.

SDSUAlum08
02-05-2012, 12:54 AM
Any video of this game? Id like to watch it.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 12:55 AM
21-20 Bison 7:35

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 12:56 AM
Any video of this game? Id like to watch it.

There's a really shitty video on GoBison.com AllAccess, it's not the webcast that is typically used. Looks more ancient and the video was buffering.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 12:56 AM
Place looks packed on the video, and I'm the only one in this thread. I really should've driven up for the game today.

I think they said close to 5000. Sorry nator. i am only able to post during the breaks. Watching the game on one computer with the wife and posting on another.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:03 AM
Bison down 29-24 with 3:28.

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:03 AM
ORU leads with 3:28 left in the first. 29-24

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:03 AM
29-24 ORU 3:28 left 1st.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:04 AM
I saw teams like Wyoming and Northern Iowa and Western Kentucky on TV today, and I think to myself, why the hell not us?? Why am I forced to watch a shitty buffering POS??

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:05 AM
I saw teams like Wyoming and Northern Iowa and Western Kentucky on TV today, and I think to myself, why the hell not us?? Why am I forced to watch a shitty buffering POS??

No crap. On the same note...i remember the days when we had no video at all. not even radio (remember Im in the cities). So sometimes I think some video is better than nothing.

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:06 AM
These dumb turnovers might kill the Bison tonight :hide:

SDbison
02-05-2012, 01:07 AM
Any details on scoring.......who is hot....not?

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:08 AM
Felt seems to be feeling it tonight. He's 3-3 so far with 7 points

the score is 33-29 ORU leads

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:08 AM
33-29 ORU with 1 min left

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:08 AM
How was that not a 5 second call?

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:09 AM
Why wasnt anyone else running the floor with LA...before he lost the ball and turned it over?

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:12 AM
SDSU and SUU are tied at 21 with 3 left in the first.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:12 AM
Bison down 35-29 at the half.

The first half lasted 39 minutes.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:13 AM
35 -29 half. LA having a rough night.

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:15 AM
Scoring so far for the Bison:

Bjorkland 9
Felt 7
LA 5
Carlson 5
Braun 3

LA also has 5 assists

IzzyFlexion
02-05-2012, 01:16 AM
Horrible half.
Thank God ORU isn't exactly sparkling either or we'd be down 25.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:19 AM
Why would NDSU pick tonight to get experimental with the GoBison Feed. I seriously have to turn the lights off to see anything...and even then I can barely see the ball go in the hoop.

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:20 AM
ORU is shooting 57.1% from the floor and the Bison are at 47.8%

Schwarz04
02-05-2012, 01:24 AM
Horrible half.
Thank God ORU isn't exactly sparkling either or we'd be down 25.

I wouldn't exactly call shooting 48% a horrible half.

Bisonwinagn
02-05-2012, 01:26 AM
Why would NDSU pick tonight to get experimental with the GoBison Feed. I seriously have to turn the lights off to see anything...and even then I can barely see the ball go in the hoop.

Agreed the feed is terrible!!!! GoBison had one of the better internet streams I had seen 6 years ago. It's gotten worse every year and they should seriously consider firing neulion. At least they have the audion synchroized, but the video not soo good.

tjbison
02-05-2012, 01:27 AM
Keep the updates coming, cant listen, watch, be there etc..., sneeking updates from my phone on here, so PLEASE update alot, this is probably my last post but will be lurking

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:29 AM
Agreed the feed is terrible!!!! GoBison had one of the better internet streams I had seen 6 years ago. It's gotten worse every year and they should seriously consider firing neulion. At least they have the audion synchroized, but the video not soo good.

I disagree. This year's stream has been very well done. Tonight's is total shit.

CalBison97
02-05-2012, 01:32 AM
We sure seem to not be able to win the big games (basketball, that is).

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:36 AM
Bison down 44-37 15:41

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:38 AM
I disagree. This year's stream has been very well done. Tonight's is total shit.

Agreed. I had no issues with the home games until tonight. The game at SUU (which was a go bison feed I think) was terrible.

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:38 AM
bjorklund hasn't missed from the field yet tonight. hope we try to get him the ball more

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:40 AM
FELT FOR 3! Bison down 6

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:41 AM
FELT HITS ANOTHER! Bison down 5

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:44 AM
Get felt the ball. Hale...you are NOT allowed to shoot!

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:45 AM
Bison down 52-46 11:53

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:46 AM
Agreed. I had no issues with the home games until tonight. The game at SUU (which was a go bison feed I think) was terrible.

Streams are done by the home team typically. Our home game streams have all been well done till tonight.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:47 AM
Streams are done by the home team typically. Our home game streams have all been well done till tonight.

Thats what I meant. Im guessing the game at SUU...what we subscribers got on gobison was SUU's feed.

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:48 AM
what just happened? LA hits the bucket and gets called for an offensive foul?

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 01:54 AM
Bison down 60-55 with 8 left, we're gonna shoot 1 and 1

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:56 AM
what just happened? LA hits the bucket and gets called for an offensive foul?

Yeah...that was weird...how does the basket count...bu you still get an off foul?

Gully
02-05-2012, 01:57 AM
fuck this....lots of touchy foul calls on NDSU. They should make all refs watch this game and then watch the NDSU Minnesota game. Which way is it? It seems like it's whatever way that doesn't benefit us.

Ross
02-05-2012, 01:57 AM
Braun for 3!!

Gully
02-05-2012, 01:58 AM
Yeah...that was weird...how does the basket count...bu you still get an off foul?

that can happen, if the ball is judged to have left his hand before he commits the foul. I've seen that called many times.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 02:00 AM
Bison down 68-60 5:36. ORU is scoring on every fucking possession.

Gully
02-05-2012, 02:00 AM
that can happen, if the ball is judged to have left his hand before he commits the foul. I've seen that called many times.

I should clarify....I didn't necessarily think it was a charge but it's hard to see on this shitty video feed. I'm just saying, this is certainly possible by rule.

Ross
02-05-2012, 02:01 AM
Really need to break through the "down 2 or 3" barrier here soon. Seems like Felt hasn't shot the ball for a while now.. which is weird, because he's on fire tonight

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 02:01 AM
Bison down 68-60 5:36. ORU is scoring on every fucking possession.

I sure hope 3 years from now we are talking about how unstoppable LA is...cuz right now...Im not seeing it.

Ross
02-05-2012, 02:01 AM
Called it! FELT FOR 3!!

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 02:02 AM
I should clarify....I didn't necessarily think it was a charge but it's hard to see on this shitty video feed. I'm just saying, this is certainly possible by rule.

I knew what you meant. I figured that too, but couldnt see. it's still not called that way very often.

Ross
02-05-2012, 02:02 AM
Attendance 4464

Gully
02-05-2012, 02:03 AM
craion blatently pushes off while driving on braun...no call.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 02:04 AM
Bison down 72-63 3:14

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 02:05 AM
Our fast break is TERRIBLE!~

Ross
02-05-2012, 02:05 AM
This seems like a replay of the game @ ORU. Bison are just hanging in there, but can't make the big run so far.

Ross
02-05-2012, 02:13 AM
LA with 3 the hard way. Bison down 7, 1:35 left in the game.

Ross
02-05-2012, 02:16 AM
1:28 left in the game. Carlson hits 2 free throws and bison are down 6

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 02:19 AM
Felt hit a 3, but it's over. Bison down by 9 with 44 seconds left

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 02:20 AM
Well, we can count out the possibility of us getting into the Big Dance this year, cause I cannot see ANY way we can beat ORU in Sioux Falls.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 02:22 AM
I'd like to know how the hell the Bunnies held them to 60 points on Thursday.

Ross
02-05-2012, 02:23 AM
I'd like to know how the hell the Bunnies held them to 60 points on Thursday.

I'd guess by not letting them shoot 60% for the game.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 02:24 AM
game over. getting tired of watching LA and Hale. I hope they prove me wrong someday.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 02:24 AM
Thank GOD Oakland beat Western Illinois in 2 overtimes. We're still in 3rd.

Ross
02-05-2012, 02:25 AM
This game could have been a MUCH worse loss. The Bison hit 10 3's and ORU only had 2. Felt really kept us in striking distance for most of the game tonight.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 02:25 AM
game over. getting tired of watching LA and Hale. I hope they prove me wrong someday.

Dylan Hale has been one of the WORST college basketball players in America the past month.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 02:26 AM
This game could have been a MUCH worse loss. The Bison hit 10 3's and ORU only had 2. Felt really kept us in striking distance for most of the game tonight.

And LA kept us from getting closer.

Bisonwinagn
02-05-2012, 02:27 AM
I'd like to know how the hell the Bunnies held them to 60 points on Thursday.

They probably played defense unlike the Bison....who have really struggled recently and are constantly out of position. IF they fix the defense they can beat ORU.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 02:28 AM
They probably played defense unlike the Bison....who have really struggled recently and are constantly out of position. IF they fix the defense they can beat ORU.

OMG how many easy layups did ORU have?

CaBisonFan
02-05-2012, 02:31 AM
This team is very talented...and very immature. They play soft most of the time.

Hell...even unt stuck it to them physically.

Maybe after a couple of years in the weight room they can mix it up with the big boys.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 02:33 AM
This team is very talented...and very immature. They play soft most of the time.

Hell...even unt stuck it to them physically.

Maybe after a couple of years in the weight room they can mix it up with the big boys.

Agreed. Like I said...I hope they prove me wrong someday.

TheBisonator
02-05-2012, 02:39 AM
Anyone else think the UMKC game on Thursday is a game we'll totally shit down our leg??

NDSUstudent
02-05-2012, 02:45 AM
Way too much Lundberg tonight. He gave us a spark when we needed it the past few games but ORU is not a good matchup for him. I'm not sure what happened to Tray but he is in a terrible funk.

Bison didn't have their best defensive effort tonight and we had some bad turnovers in the first half. That said ORU is a great team and they played well, they are 21-5 for a reason. Just need to clean it up and work on a sweep next week vs UMKC and USD, lock up that three seed and hopefully we'll see ORU again.

4mcruenomore
02-05-2012, 02:58 AM
Can we be DII at everything besides football, wait a minute, maybe we are?

unbison
02-05-2012, 03:20 AM
game over. getting tired of watching LA and Hale. I hope they prove me wrong someday.
Did you watch the same game some of la's takes to the basket were unbelievable

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 03:30 AM
Did you watch the same game some of la's takes to the basket were unbelievable

You bet I did. Unbelievable is a pretty strong word. As I said before...I hope he proves me wrong someday. 6-15 isnt exactly unbelievable. And for every awesome shot he hit...there was a circus shot, or a turnover.

mgbison
02-05-2012, 03:35 AM
I thought LA looked good tonight. He needs to keep going to the hole. He'll eventually get the Morrison and Wolters type of calls. Its the one thing about basketball I don't like.

North Side
02-05-2012, 03:44 AM
I was not happy with the L, but I thought we played a pretty good game tonight. Highest RPI team to play in the BSA ever.

JackJD
02-05-2012, 03:58 AM
During a break in the SDSU v SUU game, the PA announcer recapped current Summit League games...at that point, NDSU had a slight lead on ORU and the crowd in Frost gave a big cheer for NDSU. Now that, was unusual!

Wish the Bison could have gotten a different result tonight.

99Bison
02-05-2012, 04:13 AM
Did you watch the same game some of la's takes to the basket were unbelievable

No kidding, don't know what games teach is watching, without LA we are about a 5-16 record at this point...

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 04:20 AM
No kidding, don't know what games teach is watching, without LA we are about a 5-16 record at this point...

The same ones you guys are. Im saying he's playing like a freshman. step back from the ledge....Im not saying he will never be better...or will never bring us to the promised land. Im not saying he isnt the golden child or the chosen one. Im just saying he aint there yet and he has a ways to go. Jesus, Calm down.

99Bison
02-05-2012, 04:56 AM
game over. getting tired of watching LA and Hale. I hope they prove me wrong someday.

Haha, this sounds like the ledge here, being there with Hale one can understand, but lumping LA in with that seems like formentiond the ledge. :(

silkamilkamonico
02-05-2012, 04:59 AM
The same ones you guys are. Im saying he's playing like a freshman. step back from the ledge....Im not saying he will never be better...or will never bring us to the promised land. Im not saying he isnt the golden child or the chosen one. <b> Im just saying he aint there yet and he has a ways to go.</b> Jesus, Calm down.

Without that freshman, NDSU is a .500 team at best. And thanks Captain Obvious for point out how he has a ways to go. I was thinking being a true freshman he wasn't ever going to get any better.

Twentysix
02-05-2012, 05:52 AM
Can we be DII at everything besides football, wait a minute, maybe we are?

????? What a weird thing to say.

We have fantastic DI sports, go look at the conference championship thread and beat your head against the wall for about an hour as punishment.

DI
Football NCAA FCS Champs(1)
2011 17-6 Win vs SHSU 1/7/2012 Frisco, Texas

2006-2007(1 League)
Football Great West Champs

2007-2008(5 League)
Men's Track Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
Softball-Summit League Champs(Ineligible for postseason due to transition)

2008-2009(5 League, 3 Tournament)
Men's Basketball- Summit League Champs and Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA Tournament(74-84 Loss vs Kansas)
Men's Track Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
-Tied for 56th at NCAA Championships
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
-Tied for 36th at NCAA Championships
Volleyball- Summit League Champs and Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA tournament(0-3 Loss vs Minnesota)
Softball- Summit League Tournament Champs
-Norman Regional(1-0 Win vs Oklahoma, 3-2 Win vs Tulsa, 4-1 Win vs Tulsa)
--Super Regional(0-3 Loss vs Arizona State, 0-11 Loss vs Arizona State)

2009-2010(6 League, 1 Tournament)
Men's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
Soccer- Summit League Champs(shared)
Softball-Summit League Tournament Champs
-Seattle Regional(0-3 Loss vs Washington, 1-5 Loss vs Nebraska)
Volleyball-Summit League Champs

2010-2011(5 League, 2 Tournament)
Soccer- Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA Tournament(1 - 1 Loss 2OT[3-4 on PKs] vs Texas A&M)
Volleyball-Summit League Champs(shared) and Tournament Champs
-NCAA tournament(0-3 Loss vs Minnesota)
Men's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track-Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
-NCAA Tied for 51st
Softball- Summit League Tournament Champs
-Tempe Regional(ASU 0-10 L, SDSU 4-5 L)

2011-2012(1 National Title, 3 League and 1 Tournament)
Women's Cross Country- Summit League Champs(13th place out of 28 teams at Midwest Regional)
Volleyball- Summit League Champs and Tournament Champs(0-3 L at Minnesota)
Football- MVFC Champs(shared)
Football- FCS National Champs(26-14 W vs JMU, 24-0 W vs Lehigh, 35-7 W vs GSU and 17-6 W vs SHSU)

DIBISON
02-05-2012, 06:22 AM
????? What a weird thing to say.

We have fantastic DI sports, go look at the conference championship thread and beat your head against the wall for about an hour as punishment.

DI
Football NCAA FCS Champs(1)
2011 17-6 Win vs SHSU 1/7/2012 Frisco, Texas

2006-2007(1 League)
Football Great West Champs

2007-2008(5 League)
Men's Track Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
Softball-Summit League Champs(Ineligible for postseason due to transition)

2008-2009(5 League, 3 Tournament)
Men's Basketball- Summit League Champs and Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA Tournament(74-84 Loss vs Kansas)
Men's Track Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
-Tied for 56th at NCAA Championships
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
-Tied for 36th at NCAA Championships
Volleyball- Summit League Champs and Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA tournament(0-3 Loss vs Minnesota)
Softball- Summit League Tournament Champs
-Norman Regional(1-0 Win vs Oklahoma, 3-2 Win vs Tulsa, 4-1 Win vs Tulsa)
--Super Regional(0-3 Loss vs Arizona State, 0-11 Loss vs Arizona State)

2009-2010(6 League, 1 Tournament)
Men's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
Soccer- Summit League Champs(shared)
Softball-Summit League Tournament Champs
-Seattle Regional(0-3 Loss vs Washington, 1-5 Loss vs Nebraska)
Volleyball-Summit League Champs

2010-2011(5 League, 2 Tournament)
Soccer- Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA Tournament(1 - 1 Loss 2OT[3-4 on PKs] vs Texas A&M)
Volleyball-Summit League Champs(shared) and Tournament Champs
-NCAA tournament(0-3 Loss vs Minnesota)
Men's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track-Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
-NCAA Tied for 51st
Softball- Summit League Tournament Champs
-Tempe Regional(ASU 0-10 L, SDSU 4-5 L)

2011-2012(1 National Title, 3 League and 1 Tournament)
Women's Cross Country- Summit League Champs(13th place out of 28 teams at Midwest Regional)
Volleyball- Summit League Champs and Tournament Champs(0-3 L at Minnesota)
Football- MVFC Champs(shared)
Football- FCS National Champs(26-14 W vs JMU, 24-0 W vs Lehigh, 35-7 W vs GSU and 17-6 W vs SHSU)
Thanks 26. People don't understand how successfull NDSU has been at the DI level in the infant stage.
As far as the game tonight, ORU shot 60% and the Bison had too many turnovers in the first half. ORU starts 5 seniors and juniors. It may just be that there are 1 or 2 more talented teams than the Bison in the Summit this year, but expect our sophs and fresh to make a bigger splash during the next two years.
Basketball is just that, you lose some and hope to win more.

CAS4127
02-05-2012, 06:35 AM
Tired of excuses!!

344Johnson
02-05-2012, 07:35 AM
Tired of excuses!!

sound like my dad when I told him some reasons the Bison were not winning tonight. Just so happens you guys are the same age.....

Seriously though, it looked like the refs were giving Morrison (who is a great player) all the calls in the world and then some. A great player, does not need calls. It is upsetting to watch great players get away with being less than great. He could have scored 25-30 honest points tonight and I would not have been mad. That is how basketball works sometimes. But when they give him an extra shitton of free throws, that is frustrating. He should have had his 4th foul by the 14 minute mark or so of the second half.

Hate my life. Hate the refs. Hate the fact that I've been drinking keystone since 5:14 PM...love you all.

mgbison
02-05-2012, 08:13 AM
I thought we played alright tonight. People are down on our defense, but ORU was making some difficult shots. Sometimes there isn't much you can do. After watching us play ORU and SDSU, I have no idea how SDSU beat ORU. I would think ORU's big men would dominate in that matchup. Plus, I think Morrison is the best player in the league.

In regards to Morrison, it does seem he gets a lot of BS calls (same for Wolters). However, we can't complain. Ben Woodside received the same treatment in his last years.

SlickVic
02-05-2012, 10:35 AM
dude what about dominic I've never seen anything like that oh wait yea I have kobe bryant in the wcf vs kg sam and spree...big marsh got staight up owned by bell holder again...whatd oru do game plan wise we are going to come out and just post up for 40 minutes tonight on 3? say what you want about saul I think he's about as good as it gets but my oh my a zone defense would have came in handy tonight particularly from the tip off

SlickVic
02-05-2012, 10:45 AM
I know for sure without a shadow of a doubt there first 15 possesions were nothing but post ups...but give credit where credit is due on both sides if kampe was our coach he woulda sat on his fat ass the second half saul didn't do that and I don't know how he did it but he put us in position to win as always down the stretch and that's about all you can ask for realitically whatching that game if it was a fight we woulda got kod but saul didn't let that happen I don't know how he did it but we had our chances which gives me great confidence going into sioux falls because that team got hit with some hay makers tonight and didn't go down that impressed me as much as anything dominic and bell holder did which is saying something

WYOBISONMAN
02-05-2012, 12:42 PM
The Bison will be win perhaps one game at the Summit tourney and then be finished. Yes we have a young team, but folks, the Bison are one hell of a long way from being a contender year in and year out. I am really not satisfied with making the Dance once........then waiting through 5 years of rebuilding for another decent shot at it. There is no reason why we can't have a top Summit program that has a legit shot at the autobid damn near EVERY year. Any year we have an RPI that is not under 100, we need to be looking in the mirror and saying WTF.

4mcruenomore
02-05-2012, 01:32 PM
????? What a weird thing to say.

We have fantastic DI sports, go look at the conference championship thread and beat your head against the wall for about an hour as punishment.

DI
Football NCAA FCS Champs(1)
2011 17-6 Win vs SHSU 1/7/2012 Frisco, Texas

2006-2007(1 League)
Football Great West Champs

2007-2008(5 League)
Men's Track Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
Softball-Summit League Champs(Ineligible for postseason due to transition)

2008-2009(5 League, 3 Tournament)
Men's Basketball- Summit League Champs and Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA Tournament(74-84 Loss vs Kansas)
Men's Track Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
-Tied for 56th at NCAA Championships
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
-Tied for 36th at NCAA Championships
Volleyball- Summit League Champs and Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA tournament(0-3 Loss vs Minnesota)
Softball- Summit League Tournament Champs
-Norman Regional(1-0 Win vs Oklahoma, 3-2 Win vs Tulsa, 4-1 Win vs Tulsa)
--Super Regional(0-3 Loss vs Arizona State, 0-11 Loss vs Arizona State)

2009-2010(6 League, 1 Tournament)
Men's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
Soccer- Summit League Champs(shared)
Softball-Summit League Tournament Champs
-Seattle Regional(0-3 Loss vs Washington, 1-5 Loss vs Nebraska)
Volleyball-Summit League Champs

2010-2011(5 League, 2 Tournament)
Soccer- Summit League Tournament Champs
-NCAA Tournament(1 - 1 Loss 2OT[3-4 on PKs] vs Texas A&M)
Volleyball-Summit League Champs(shared) and Tournament Champs
-NCAA tournament(0-3 Loss vs Minnesota)
Men's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Men's Track-Summit League Outdoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Indoor Champs
Women's Track- Summit League Outdoor Champs
-NCAA Tied for 51st
Softball- Summit League Tournament Champs
-Tempe Regional(ASU 0-10 L, SDSU 4-5 L)

2011-2012(1 National Title, 3 League and 1 Tournament)
Women's Cross Country- Summit League Champs(13th place out of 28 teams at Midwest Regional)
Volleyball- Summit League Champs and Tournament Champs(0-3 L at Minnesota)
Football- MVFC Champs(shared)
Football- FCS National Champs(26-14 W vs JMU, 24-0 W vs Lehigh, 35-7 W vs GSU and 17-6 W vs SHSU)

I said everything except football, which you included. I could care less about track, cross country, or underwater basket weaving. Volleyball we got to the tournament only to get annihilated. Women's basketball, well, forget that. Men's basketball, I see you had to bring up our 1 tourney appearance, like everyone does every time. I am disappointed, ok, it's my opinion.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 01:56 PM
Without that freshman, NDSU is a .500 team at best. And thanks Captain Obvious for point out how he has a ways to go. I was thinking being a true freshman he wasn't ever going to get any better.

When I wrote I was tired of watching LA...He had just went baseline, up and under the backboard and tried to spin a circus shot off the other side of the backboard. If that worked for him more often it would be different. Yes. I get tired of watching that.

He had also just ran down the court 1 on 3 and lost the ball. Seems that never goes our way. We get a steal or turnover...rush down the court miss the shot/ or turn it back over and the opponent comes the other way and scores. Those are big momentum changers and those sequences don't seem to go our way. Yes, I get tired of watching that.

I know he has helped us be more than a .500 team. What I didn't know was that he was the baby Jesus (copyright Barrerio) and beyond criticism. My apologies.

Its just my opinion man.

4mcruenomore
02-05-2012, 02:02 PM
When I wrote I was tired of watching LA...He had just went baseline, up and under the backboard and tried to spin a circus shot off the other side of the backboard. If that worked for him more often it would be different. Yes. I get tired of watching that.

He had also just ran down the court 1 on 3 and lost the ball. Seems that never goes our way. We get a steal or turnover...rush down the court miss the shot/ or turn it back over and the opponent comes the other way and scores. Those are big momentum changers and those sequences don't seem to go our way. Yes, I get tired of watching that.

I know he has helped us be more than a .500 team. What I didn't know was that he was the baby Jesus (copyright Barrerio) and beyond criticism. My apologies.

Its just my opinion man.

I think he sucks, how about that for an opinion?

JackJD
02-05-2012, 02:27 PM
ESPN mentioned ORU's split in the Dakotas...found this link on ORU's board:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6boq9QQWaNI&feature=player_embedded

herdmember
02-05-2012, 03:17 PM
I said everything except football, which you included. I could care less about track, cross country, or underwater basket weaving. Volleyball we got to the tournament only to get annihilated. Women's basketball, well, forget that. Men's basketball, I see you had to bring up our 1 tourney appearance, like everyone does every time. I am disappointed, ok, it's my opinion.

I'm guessing this is obvious, but let's not forget football is our only sport that plays in the 2nd division of D1. WYOs points about RPI make a lot more sense. And track, cross country, etc doesn't matter because you don't care about them? I'm glad you're not the AD.

Do me a favor, next time you're at a Bison athletic event, err, football game, when the crowd is chanting Let's Go Bison, please clarify by adding football to the end of the phrase.

VanClubPres
02-05-2012, 03:21 PM
I'm guessing this is obvious, but let's not forget football is our only sport that plays in the 2nd division of D1. WYOs points about RPI make a lot more sense. And track, cross country, etc doesn't matter because you don't care about them? I'm glad you're not the AD.

Do me a favor, next time you're at a Bison athletic event, err, football game, when the crowd is chanting Let's Go Bison, please clarify by adding football to the end of the phrase.


Ha. Once a Bison Fan, always a Bison Football Fan.

HandoEX
02-05-2012, 03:30 PM
I'm guessing this is obvious, but let's not forget football is our only sport that plays in the 2nd division of D1. WYOs points about RPI make a lot more sense. And track, cross country, etc doesn't matter because you don't care about them? I'm glad you're not the AD.

Do me a favor, next time you're at a Bison athletic event, err, football game, when the crowd is chanting Let's Go Bison, please clarify by adding football to the end of the phrase.
4mcrue is trolling.

mgbison
02-05-2012, 03:32 PM
I don't understand how people can be mad at LA. If anything, I wish he'd be more aggressive on the offensive end and drive to the rim more often.

This is life as a mid major basketball program, playing in a crappy facility. We are probably only gonna make the big dance every five years or so (if that).

NDSUstudent
02-05-2012, 03:47 PM
The bitching after we lose never ceases to amaze me, even when we lose to a top 50 team in college basketball people still can't get a grip. ORU played a great game, to beat them we needed to match that with probably our best game of the season.

We played a decent game but it was obviously not good enough, the great thing about college basketball is that you only have to beat a team like ORU once to get to the NCAA tournament.

Oh and 4M STFU, I'm tired of stupid comments from the Bisonville football fan peanut gallery. Some people like to read the forum and talk about the game and not have to read your stupid drunk troll commentary.

HandoEX
02-05-2012, 04:32 PM
I think he sucks, how about that for an opinion?
Nate Wolters is universally considered in the top 3 players in the league and one of the best point guards in the country. Comparing LA's production compared to Wolter's freshman year production...

LA averages 2.4 points per game
LA shoots 7.5% higher field goal percentage
LA grabs .5 more rebounds per game
LA dishes 2.1 more assists power game

Oh, and he averages more steals, more blocks and his team has already won more games with 7 left to play.
Now, I am certainly not saying LA will develop into Wolters, although he definately could, but let's be rational here. The kid is a hell of a player!

4mcruenomore
02-05-2012, 04:38 PM
Nate Wolters is universally considered in the top 3 players in the league and one of the best point guards in the country. Comparing LA's production compared to Wolter's freshman year production...

LA averages 2.4 points per game
LA shoots 7.5% higher field goal percentage
LA grabs .5 more rebounds per game
LA dishes 2.1 more assists power game

Oh, and he averages more steals, more blocks and his team has already won more games with 7 left to play.
Now, I am certainly not saying LA will develop into Wolters, although he definately could, but let's be rational here. The kid is a hell of a player!

I was trolling. I hope he can develop some more, that's for sure

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 04:39 PM
I think he sucks, how about that for an opinion?

I dont think he sucks. I think he has talent. Just needs to make better decisions.

HandoEX
02-05-2012, 04:45 PM
I dont think he sucks. I think he has talent. Just needs to make better decisions.
All of LA's stats are ahead of or right in line with Woodside's freshman year stats except for PPG, 3pt FG%, and ft%.

LA is not lacking anything in his progression. We should be thanking the good Lord in heavan that we have a talent like him!

4mcruenomore
02-05-2012, 04:49 PM
All of LA's stats are ahead of or right in line with Woodside's freshman year stats except for PPG, 3pt FG%, and ft%.

LA is not lacking anything in his progression. We should be thanking the good Lord in heavan that we have a talent like him!

He has the talent no doubt, a little development and he will be awesome. Some people around BV get a little worked up, but it is fun!

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 05:02 PM
We should be thanking the good Lord in heavan that we have a talent like him!

Like I said...Baby Jesus....:biggrin:

BTW...PPG, 3point% and FT's are 3 pretty important stats....

Better decision making during those possible momentum turning moments and I would be happier. But then again...i would probably find something else to complain about.

IzzyFlexion
02-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Alexander's first step in going to the hole will improve.
Evertime he does this, I can't help but compare him to Woodside.
Woody's first step whether left or right was simply phenominal. So much so that he didn't need the circus type reverse flip off the board layup because of the trees in the paint. When a six foot nothing guy (Ben) can score that easily (as though he is doing warmup layups), it is one of the most beautiful things in basketball.
If I was LA, I would study Woodside film for at least an hour a day. Certainly wouldn't hurt. Additionally, though Luke Moorman wasn't a huge offensive threat, he was masterful at setting screens up top. Not seeing that from this year's team.

Greenie
02-05-2012, 05:18 PM
Saul needs to do another starting lineup re-tweak
G Alexander
G Felt
F Braun
F Wright -- plays better when starting
C Bjorkland

Reserves
Lundberg or Lindberg in a few minutes per half for Alexander. Lundberg better on offense, Lindberg for defense
Hale rotating in for Felt. Felt should get 2/3 of the minutes
Aaberg rotating in for Bjorkland. Bjorkland should get 2/3 of the minutes. Could even use Aaberg and Bjorkland together once in a while
Carlson in the rotation to give Wright or Braun a rest

NorthernBison
02-05-2012, 05:42 PM
The bitching after we lose never ceases to amaze me, even when we lose to a top 50 team in college basketball people still can't get a grip. ORU played a great game, to beat them we needed to match that with probably our best game of the season.

We played a decent game but it was obviously not good enough, the great thing about college basketball is that you only have to beat a team like ORU once to get to the NCAA tournament.

Oh and 4M STFU, I'm tired of stupid comments from the Bisonville football fan peanut gallery. Some people like to read the forum and talk about the game and not have to read your stupid drunk troll commentary.

I tend to agree with most of what you posted. What happened last night overall is what this program needs in the long run to get where most of us want it to be. Exciting game, good competition, crowd of nearly 5,000. With a better facility, there is the potential to make Bison Basketball an "event".

It won't get there very often on a Thursday night but that's a fact of life we might have to live with. It can be a regular thing on Saturday though. This program has never gotten itself to the point where it MATTERS to the regular fan. There are people on this board who are big time basketball fans and go to all the games. Your opinions are irrelevant because you are a minority. You'll always be at the games cheering. The program needs the fans who right now aren't going to games and couldn't name three players on the team.

I hate to say it but becoming relevant doesn't revolve around three games in Sioux Falls that very few fans will ever see or even a Big Dance appearance. There's simply 8-9 months after the NCAA Tournament and a full football season in between for people to forget all about basketball. If this group of Sophs was to make the Dance as Seniors, I guaranfrickentee you that it won't do any more benefit in the long run than the Fab 4.

What we need is more of what we saw last night and the SDSU weekend. I'd prefer it end with wins but I expect that to come.

Mr. Burgundy
02-05-2012, 06:19 PM
As much as I try....I can't. I want so bad to not give some of the negative people on here the time of day. 4M...you are a complete tool. "Trolling?" what, you want to come on here and get a rise out of Bison fans and then just says....kidding. Impressive, very impressive.

I left last night not even upset. We got beat by a better team. They were tougher than us at every position. Our young guys were pushed around by MEN. They got beat in Brookings and we knew they would come out with alot better effort, and they did. Complaining about our true freshman PG who goes for 16 and 9 against a top 50 team in America.....D'OK. Probably the least of my concerns is LA. Woody turned it over, I loved his agressiveness, he will only improve. Most fans would say...."Hey, at least our future is bright at PG, LA looked good." Instead, I come on here and the same people are negative.

Don't give me this crap about Baby Jesus either. Nobody has annointed LA as the next coming or anything. He wouldn't want that. He is a very soft spoken/classy kid who is adjusting to life on his own, school, being the PG of a D1 team, and playing more minutes than anyone could have imagined. Again, the least of my concerns.

ORU....if they play like that, they won't lose in Sioux Falls. They don't always play like that. They were fired up and Sutton had them well aware that all our games are tough. Bell Holter was a man down low and set the stage. They had 6 guys that were unstoppable at different times. Right now we have a few guys in massive funks. Until we get them going, we are going to struggle.

I agree with Greenie. I would like a lineup change. I like Carlson coming in off the bench and scoring. Hale has so much talent, I have seen it. I would have expected him to average 12-14 points based on what I saw this summer....and he clearly isn't even a factor right now. Felt was a dude last night. This road weekend is critical. I would like to see Braun take it to the hole in the first half. he is a man in the second half and plays to win. Love it. Get that fired up in the first half. It is his team, he is the leader. Love it when he goes hard to the hole. Anyway, we shot over 50% but couldn't get stops when we needed them. 36 points from one kid....he was unstoppable, and the refs sure weren't going to let us breath on him.

LA Fan club. I will take him anyday. I hope he explodes! he is better than anyone could have predicted. To even come close to blaming him is almost embarrassing in my opinion. I hope he improves.....most kids do being he is a true freshman.

MN_BISON
02-05-2012, 06:38 PM
I said everything except football, which you included. I could care less about track, cross country, or underwater basket weaving. Volleyball we got to the tournament only to get annihilated. Women's basketball, well, forget that. Men's basketball, I see you had to bring up our 1 tourney appearance, like everyone does every time. I am disappointed, ok, it's my opinion.

If someone read that to me and didn't say it was posted on Bisonville, I'd think it was a post from DaveK. Buttfootball? Say it ain't so 4M. :biggrin:

silkamilkamonico
02-05-2012, 06:56 PM
Like I said...Baby Jesus....:biggrin:

BTW...PPG, 3point% and FT's are 3 pretty important stats....

Better decision making during those possible momentum turning moments and I would be happier. But then again...i would probably find something else to complain about.


I'm not sure why you are arguing "decision making". I am sure if fanbases were actually concerned about that with true freshmen PG's, there would be concern about 100% of teams with freshmen PG's starting in college.

Derrick Rose was a very questionable decision maker in his freshman year at Memphis. But then again, he was a freshman.

silkamilkamonico
02-05-2012, 06:58 PM
Don't take 4m seriously, he is really only a Bison football fan and just has fun trolling. It is ok we need those passionate ones. I think it has to be obvious considering he's arguing football as the only alleged D1 sport when it competes in an avenue outside of the 120 teams that are actually in Real Division 1.

silkamilkamonico
02-05-2012, 07:04 PM
Saul needs to do another starting lineup re-tweak
G Alexander
G Felt
F Braun
F Wright -- plays better when starting
C Bjorkland

Reserves
Lundberg or Lindberg in a few minutes per half for Alexander. Lundberg better on offense, Lindberg for defense
Hale rotating in for Felt. Felt should get 2/3 of the minutes
Aaberg rotating in for Bjorkland. Bjorkland should get 2/3 of the minutes. Could even use Aaberg and Bjorkland together once in a while
Carlson in the rotation to give Wright or Braun a rest

I actually agree with Felt, but disagree with Wright. The offense IMO justy flows better with Carlson in. Wright is a blue collar type player that needs to focus on rebounding and defense, because he can be great there. When he's involved with the offense the ball sticks every time it goes through him. It's like he doesn't know what to do with it.

mgbison
02-05-2012, 07:09 PM
I look at our basketball team this year and compare it to the years after Woodside, we have come a long ways. If we finish 3rd in the conference, I'll be happy. There have been some frustrating losses, but it happens to every team.

NDSUstudent
02-05-2012, 07:13 PM
I do agree bigtime with those who say Saul needs to make one last tweak to the starting lineup for the stretch run. I'm torn on starting Felt, I like his offense off the bench but maybe that is a luxury we can't afford anymore. Carl could give us some offense off the bench like Burgundy was saying earlier that said it might not hurt having a defensive stopper come on off the bench in Hale or Lundberg who can score and defend a bit.

I do think Lundberg should still play some, he can score a little and is an adequate defender vs most of the teams we play but I think the experiment with him starting should be over. I'd love to start Tray but really I just don't know about him right now, he just seems out of it. He is standing around too much on offense and is getting pushed around on defense. Saul and his staff need to reignite his fire. The guy has some much talent, it is just beyond frustrating.

If we do play ORU again I think Saul is going to need to have some tricks up his sleeve. Maybe play Aaberg and Bjorklund at the same time, play a little zone. Something just to throw them off a bit more because what we have isn't good enough if they are on their game.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 09:01 PM
Maybe I misread something, but I don't think anyone blamed LA for the loss.

ORU is good. I think the announcers said ORU might get an at-large bid with or without winning the summit tourney. The future looks bright for our team. AND.... LA is a very good player...and yes he is a freshman, and I'm sure he is a great kid. But he can stand some criticism. That's what the baby Jesus thing was about. I'm not sure how that got turned around. Nobody ever said he thought of himself that way....it was a statement of how I thought some people on here were viewing him that he can do no wrong when I criticized the circus shots.

BisonTeacher
02-05-2012, 09:01 PM
Oh...and I would like to see more of Bjorklund and Felt. And see them have more plays drawn up to get felt open more. Especially when hes shooting hot.

ndsubison1
02-06-2012, 04:07 AM
When I wrote I was tired of watching LA...He had just went baseline, up and under the backboard and tried to spin a circus shot off the other side of the backboard. If that worked for him more often it would be different. Yes. I get tired of watching that.

He had also just ran down the court 1 on 3 and lost the ball. Seems that never goes our way. We get a steal or turnover...rush down the court miss the shot/ or turn it back over and the opponent comes the other way and scores. Those are big momentum changers and those sequences don't seem to go our way. Yes, I get tired of watching that.

I know he has helped us be more than a .500 team. What I didn't know was that he was the baby Jesus (copyright Barrerio) and beyond criticism. My apologies.

Its just my opinion man.

LA's assist to turnover ratio last night was 9/3. what say you?

Thunder_Struck
02-06-2012, 04:13 AM
I would like to see Jordan and Marshall on the floor at the same time. If we see ORU in the tourney I don't want to see Lundberg trying to guard Morrision. Drew worked hard but just doesn't have the height to defend him. This team can get to the dance.

ndsubison1
02-06-2012, 04:25 AM
we just could not stop them inside. they got what they wanted. so many points in the paint. if we play them again something has to be changed. if theres a game where you play zone that was it. it's nice to have a scorer off the bench but we just have consistency issues right now. same thing with last year. we are struggling to put together a strong lineup. we had many lineup issues and changes into feb. last season too. it's getting closer to that time where coaches cut time and have their lineups set. we are kinda far from that. i wanna see felt start. 5. bjorklund 4. wright 3. braun 2. felt 1. LA

BisonTeacher
02-06-2012, 10:59 AM
LA's assist to turnover ratio last night was 9/3. what say you?

Umm...Ive already said a bunch...but I will one more time. Not a fan of the circus shots. I completely understand I may be the only one here that thinks this way. I will be ok.

I know hes gonna make mistakes...I just wish he wouldn't do it at crucial times.

unbison
02-06-2012, 12:30 PM
Teacher quit you are fighting a battle with yourself you are fighting only to not be wrong suck it up you are wrong about LA

BisonTeacher
02-06-2012, 01:05 PM
Teacher quit you are fighting a battle with yourself you are fighting only to not be wrong suck it up you are wrong about LA

You know what... I am wrong. He is perfect. He never makes any mistakes. Everything he does is unbelievable. I will never talk badly or criticize him again. My bad.

silkamilkamonico
02-06-2012, 01:16 PM
You know what... I am wrong. He is perfect. He never makes any mistakes. Everything he does is unbelievable. I will never talk badly or criticize him again. My bad.

Dude's far from perfect. He also really isn't a place yet that garners criticism.

Worst thing you can do with a young player who needs to make plays for you is bottle him up. He's going to try crazy shots at crucuial times, which he does. He's also going to make great plays in crucial times, which he does.

Woodside did too.

BisonTeacher
02-06-2012, 01:23 PM
He's going to try crazy shots at crucuial times, which he does. He's also going to make great plays in crucial times, which he does.

Thats all I was trying to say. In my own incoherent way. Im not a hater. If you look back to the MINN game...I pretty sure I was defending him.

bisonsupporter
02-06-2012, 01:50 PM
Attend my first Bison game of the year in person, a few questions.
1) Why isnt Felt starting? I understand the luxery of instant offense off the bench but this one doesnt make sense to me.
2) Why is Wright even sniffing the floor? Are we that short of players to give Carlson a rest during the game. I saw no productivity from him at all.
3) Who is the leader of this team? Braun- haha, thats a laugher, Bjorkland- maybe?

From my point of view it looked like the only player with confidence to shoot a jump shot was Felt. Bjorkland did his thing underneath. LA needs confidence. Hit a 3 at the beginning and had a nice drive. Carlson is a better player that Wright. I have heard about Wrights athleticism but watching him on the floor Saturday night, not sure what he brings to the team besides a rest for the players who he replaced.

There is potential there. This could be a great (not good) team over the next couple of years. But they need to develop the attitude, we want this.

silkamilkamonico
02-06-2012, 02:40 PM
Braun had a bad game.

He is no question the leader of this team, and arguably the main reason why NDSU is having such a good year so far this year.

The dude is an absolute stat filler, and IMHO should be playing all game if his stamina can handle it.

Braun and Bjorklund need to see the court as much as possible.

Greenie
02-06-2012, 03:39 PM
Alexander, Felt, Braun, and Bjorkland need to play as much as possible as they are our best all-around players

After that, we need the bench players to come in, play hard, and recognize their roles

Aaberg does a lot of nice things on offense and defense and doesn't have very many negative plays
Carlson and Lundberg are decent options off the bench because of their experience, but they aren't very quick and are limited on both sides of the ball
Wright is an amazing athlete but presses too much on offense and lacks focus on defense. He needs to focus on rebounding and defense, and play off of others on offense
Lindberg would be much better if he would be aggressive - he looks to pass the ball on the perimeter and that is it. Attack the lane and take an open 3-pointer once in awhile
Hale has a lot of potential, but gets way too excited and starts fouling people and forcing shots. Plays way better when under control

I realize that all these guys are young and will learn in time, but this team needs them to settle into their roles in these last 3 weeks to help win the Summit in Sioux Falls.

bisonsupporter
02-06-2012, 03:52 PM
Alexander, Felt, Braun, and Bjorkland need to play as much as possible as they are our best all-around players

After that, we need the bench players to come in, play hard, and recognize their roles

Aaberg does a lot of nice things on offense and defense and doesn't have very many negative plays
Carlson and Lundberg are decent options off the bench because of their experience, but they aren't very quick and are limited on both sides of the ball
Wright is an amazing athlete but presses too much on offense and lacks focus on defense. He needs to focus on rebounding and defense, and play off of others on offense
Lindberg would be much better if he would be aggressive - he looks to pass the ball on the perimeter and that is it. Attack the lane and take an open 3-pointer once in awhile
Hale has a lot of potential, but gets way too excited and starts fouling people and forcing shots. Plays way better when under control

I realize that all these guys are young and will learn in time, but this team needs them to settle into their roles in these last 3 weeks to help win the Summit in Sioux Falls.

Wright has no jump shot, not really big enough to play inside. Has all the athletism a guy would need. If he could just hit that 15-18' shot, that could open lanes for him to drive and use his ability. I know if i was defending him i would allow the outside shot on him.
They should know their roles by this point in the season. I understand they are young, but it almost sickens you to watch them struggle with the talent they have. I want to WIN NOW....haha.

SDbison
02-06-2012, 03:57 PM
Alexander, Felt, Braun, and Bjorkland need to play as much as possible as they are our best all-around players

After that, we need the bench players to come in, play hard, and recognize their roles

Aaberg does a lot of nice things on offense and defense and doesn't have very many negative plays
Carlson and Lundberg are decent options off the bench because of their experience, but they aren't very quick and are limited on both sides of the ball
Wright is an amazing athlete but presses too much on offense and lacks focus on defense. He needs to focus on rebounding and defense, and play off of others on offense
Lindberg would be much better if he would be aggressive - he looks to pass the ball on the perimeter and that is it. Attack the lane and take an open 3-pointer once in awhile
Hale has a lot of potential, but gets way too excited and starts fouling people and forcing shots. Plays way better when under control

I realize that all these guys are young and will learn in time, but this team needs them to settle into their roles in these last 3 weeks to help win the Summit in Sioux Falls.
Even with some improvement prior to the tourney the Bison won't likely win the Summit Tournament. SDSU and ORU are much better teams.

BisonBlogger
02-06-2012, 04:23 PM
The thing to remember about the Summit League tournament is that both ORU and SDSU rely heavily on their two stars, Morrison and Wolters to win ball games. Other than those two players, the Bison match up very well with either team. If either of those star players have a sub par game, anything could happen and usually does in a tournament situation.

Greenie
02-06-2012, 05:17 PM
Even with some improvement prior to the tourney the Bison won't likely win the Summit Tournament. SDSU and ORU are much better teams.

Disagree about the much better teams, at least concerning SDSU, they are a 1 trick pony. Bison can beat them just like they have 10 out of the last 11 times. Let Wolters get his 30 and stay home against the wide open shooters around the 3 point line. Bison played terrible defense for the first 3/4 of the last game, then figured it out and almost won.

ORU is another story, they actually have a variety of weapons that aren't dependent on one guy. But the Bison have played them tough both games this year and could beat them in Sioux Falls if playing their best.

Tatanka
02-06-2012, 05:44 PM
Braun had a bad game.

He is no question the leader of this team, and arguably the main reason why NDSU is having such a good year so far this year.

The dude is an absolute stat filler, and IMHO should be playing all game if his stamina can handle it.

Braun and Bjorklund need to see the court as much as possible.

Braun is a stat filler, agreed. Problem is one of the stats he fills is the foul count. That's why he sits.

bisonsupporter
02-06-2012, 05:51 PM
Braun is a stat filler, agreed. Problem is one of the stats he fills is the foul count. That's why he sits.

And a TO stat filler. Maybe im wrong but i look at him as a point forward (grant hill and lebron type) and he averages 2.7 assists and 2.5 turnovers per game. I would think that needs to be better.

silkamilkamonico
02-06-2012, 06:08 PM
Braun is not a PG or a even a point forward so i am not sure why the assist to TO ratio applies to him. Yes he needs to stay out of foul trouble better because we need him on the floor. Problem is he's also guarding the other teams best players early in the game when Hale is out because his defense is so good. Dude does everything out on the court.

BisonBlogger
02-06-2012, 06:11 PM
Granted ORU has more weapons than SDSU but both times the Bison have played ORU this year, Morrison shot a very high percentage. He shoots sub 50% and Bison win those games. Morrison is however a great shot maker. Many of them contested right over people.

silkamilkamonico
02-06-2012, 06:17 PM
ORU shot 60% on Sat. And that wasn't because they were on fire. They take such high percentage shots as a team. If we meet them again Saul needs to find a way to protect the basketball a little better.

BisonTeacher
02-06-2012, 06:55 PM
The thing to remember about the Summit League tournament is that both ORU and SDSU rely heavily on their two stars, Morrison and Wolters to win ball games. Other than those two players, the Bison match up very well with either team. If either of those star players have a sub par game, anything could happen and usually does in a tournament situation.

Although its not looking good, I totally agree. ANYTHING can happen. Stranger things have. But those teams usually start gelling or get hot right before. Im hoping we find our "happy place" before SUmmit Tourney.

It seemed like Morrison was hitting everything Saturday night. Let's hope ol Sauly has something special defensively in mind for him and/or Wolters...

99Bison
02-06-2012, 07:31 PM
... Let's hope ol Sauly has something special defensively in mind for him and/or Wolters...

Yea, I think he just needs to figure out how to stop the sudden Jordan treatment for Morrison from the officials. The last 3/4 of the second half was ridiculous on that front.

BisonBlogger
02-06-2012, 09:01 PM
I thought for the most part, Braun and whoever was guarding Morrison really contested shots pretty well. He hit serveral running jump shots and floaters in traffic over out stretched hands. That is really all you can ask a defender to do without fouling the guy. I just feel like the next time, and lets hope there is a next time, hopefully his percentage goes down a bit and the Bison can hang and be there with a chance to win at the end.

bisonsupporter
02-06-2012, 09:14 PM
Braun is not a PG or a even a point forward so i am not sure why the assist to TO ratio applies to him. Yes he needs to stay out of foul trouble better because we need him on the floor. Problem is he's also guarding the other teams best players early in the game when Hale is out because his defense is so good. Dude does everything out on the court.

I thought he was a Point Forward type. I see he is listed as a guard.

DjKyRo
02-06-2012, 09:38 PM
I thought he was a Point Forward type. I see he is listed as a guard.

He's gotten time at 2 due to his ability from deep, his handle (which is pretty good for a guy his height) and his ability as a slasher. I haven't seen enough of his passing game to rate it one way or another, but he definitely can play as a guard and can defend some of the faster guys we play against there.