GDT: Gophers

[roadwarrior]

In the barn.

[AKBison]

Go Bison!!!!!

[HoopsBison]

Lets win one against these goofs!

[ndsubison1]

where can we watch this online?

[MNLonghorn10]

btn.com click on the minnesota logo


not a bison bball fan by any means...so maybe my home state can beat you bastard nodakers in one thing :duel:

[MNLonghorn10]

This is the 27th meeting between the Gophers and Bison, with the Gophers leading the series 25-1.


ouch..i take back my previous statement haha

[Hammersmith]

9-2 Bison
15:21

[goldenshower]

This is the 27th meeting between the Gophers and Bison, with the Gophers leading the series 25-1.


ouch..i take back my previous statement haha

25 + 1 = 27???

[MNLonghorn10]

i copied that from the gophersport chat.

holy shit the gophers are bad. this god damn team hasn't had anybody worth a damn since bobby jackson

[Hammersmith]

25 + 1 = 27???
25 + 1 + tonight = 27

And Felt for 3333333!!!

14-2 Bison

[goldenshower]

25 + 1 + tonight = 27

And Felt for 3333333!!!

14-2 Bison

haha well played!

[bri-dog]

web streaming:

http://apps.ohlulz.com/ncaa/flash.ph..._abr_1200@3243

[Hammersmith]

OMG Trey!!! What a block!

14-5 Bison
11:30

[rustywallace]

to watch the upset in the making

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/sport/basketball.html

andfind ndsu vs mn

[Hammersmith]

17-7 Bison
8:30

[BandwagonSamHumann]

Keep it heat on bison.

[JSUBison]

Have Minn/NDSU on my laptop, ORU/Texas Tech on FCS on tv. ORU whooping Tech 24-10 now.

[Hammersmith]

Gophs on a bit of a run.

19-13 Bison
6:30

19-15 after 2 Goph FT

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I don't think that should be a foul on Bjorklund

[goldenshower]

these refs suck for both teams

[MNLonghorn10]

rodney did enough barking. calls will start goin minnys way

[Schwarz04]

Working video stream!

http://apps.ohlulz.com/ncaa/flash.php?lulz=rtmp://cp136856.live.edgefcs.net:1935/live&id=btdn_02_abr_1200@3243

[Hammersmith]

Crap tied. 19-all.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

we can't handle their pressure and its killing us.

[Ross]

Looking pretty shaky for the Bison for the last 4 minutes or so. Need to get the momentum back in our favor

[NDSUFan_Sav]

lazy defense to allow them to get an open look at a 3

[Hammersmith]

26-24 Bison.

[Hammersmith]

30-27 Gophers

[NDSUFan_Sav]

this is starting to look really ugly

[DjKyRo]

Gophers get the buzzer-beater to make it 32-29 at the half. All things considered not bad but you'd like the guys to keep it together with a 12-point lead on the road.

[Hammersmith]

32-29 Gophers at the half

[HoopsBison]

Were going to have be much stronger with the ball in the second half or its going to get ugly.

[BlueBisonRock]

Bison sighting on the screen. I believe it was Kermit.

[DjKyRo]

This youth thing is getting to be agonizing. Up-and-down half like that has to be expected but that start has to be encouraging regardless of the turnovers that killed it. Again, all things considered, down 3 at an 11-1 Big Ten team is a pretty legit spot to be in. Let's see what happens in the second half and maybe we can make some magic.

[MNLonghorn10]

This youth thing is getting to be agonizing. Up-and-down half like that has to be expected but that start has to be encouraging regardless of the turnovers that killed it. Again, all things considered, down 3 at an 11-1 Big Ten team is a pretty legit spot to be in. Let's see what happens in the second half and maybe we can make some magic.
lets slow down...those 11 wins are pretty bad...

[BlueBisonRock]

This youth thing is getting to be agonizing. Up-and-down half like that has to be expected but that start has to be encouraging regardless of the turnovers that killed it. Again, all things considered, down 3 at an 11-1 Big Ten team is a pretty legit spot to be in. Let's see what happens in the second half and maybe we can make some magic.

This years results are much better than last years. I remember the Bison fading at the end of the half last time they played.

[goldenshower]

i really like bkorkland, always have, wish he would have by 6'10"-6'11" so he could have been a gopher

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Bison sighting on the screen. I believe it was Kermit.

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/0/02/Kermit-Reporter.jpg

[Bisonwinagn]

lets slow down...those 11 wins are pretty bad...

Never heard of a bad win!!! Obviously there are 11 worse teams which means something.

[BisonVifte]

Now that we sat a few guys with two fouls they will be able to play more the second half.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

we were up 14-2 and then let them make a run. Normally being down by 3 would be a good thing, but how it happened is frustrating. Minnesota got very aggressive on defense and we got away from doing what was working. Yeah Hale has made a couple 3s but a few of them were really forced. We need to try and attack the basket.

[BlueBisonRock]

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/0/02/Kermit-Reporter.jpg

Nice one Savvy!

[DjKyRo]

Why have we been so bad with fouls in big games? Bjorklund picks up his third not even a minute into the game. Can't expect to stay in it with that kind of stuff.

3 for Hale!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Why have we been so bad with fouls in big games? Bjorklund picks up his third not even a minute into the game. Can't expect to stay in it with that kind of stuff.

3 for Hale!

speed...he wasn't fast enough to move with the guy there for causing a blocking foul.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

well not speed...should say quickness is a better word to use.

[Bisonwinagn]

Hate all the touch foul calls by the refs, but players have to adjust.

[DjKyRo]

Another turnover leads to another foul on Hale.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

this is getting really hard to watch...we're still in this game for now.

[Hammersmith]

40-32 Gophers
16:30
Bison turnover

Starting to slip away

[Wally]

this is getting really hard to watch...we're still in this game for now.

Was thinking the same thing.......kind of ugly right now

[Ross]

Bison are playing way too sloppy! Lets see some better discipline out there

[NDSUFan_Sav]

We have to keep doing what Braun just did attack and get fouls like that and make them at the FT line.

[goldenshower]

40-32 Gophers
16:30
Bison turnover

Starting to slip away

we have been pretty bad at football...but at least we are decent at hoops

[MNLonghorn10]

wow...that was a horrible charge call after a sensational save by the gopher

[goldenshower]

bull shit call!

[DjKyRo]

Bison trying to claw their way back, 41-35 after some FT's.

[Ross]

These refs are pretty horrible

[scbison91]

These refs are pretty horrible They are Big 10 refs, enough said.

[Hammersmith]

46-42 Gophers
12:30

[NDSUFan_Sav]

refs are bad both ways

[goldenshower]

They are Big 10 refs, enough said.

here we go! big ten refs are fine, i prefer them over acc officials anyday. never saw a summit game before so no opinion on yours

[SDbison]

They are Big 10 refs, enough said. Lets see how the big gay refs can change the outcome in favor of tubass and the goofs.

[DjKyRo]

Oh man! Bison awake again and they're fighting for it! 1-point game!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

bad decision and forced pass there.

[HoopsBison]

Man, I know gohpers have some athletic and physical guards but LA is playing awful tonight...

[NDSUFan_Sav]

hate how this announcer keeps saying how Felt thinks about shooting it when he does that move all the time.

[Hammersmith]

Bison manage to tie it up at 51
8:45

And the Gophers take it back with a FT

52-51 Gophers

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Man, I know gohpers have some athletic and physical guards but LA is playing awful tonight...

I disagree...its not turning out that well but he's trying to be aggressive and get to the line. Smart pg

[HandoEX]

Hell yes, let's go Bison!!! It's a great year for a Gopher sweep in the two big sports.

[MNLonghorn10]

lol ralph sampson is so bad.. how much longer is he here for

[tcbison]

I am at the game and the Bison get callled for every foul.

[MNLonghorn10]

felt needs to pump fake. hed get so many ft attempts

[goldenshower]

Hell yes, let's go Bison!!! It's a great year for a Gopher sweep in the two big sports.

lol trying to take a shot at und and hockey i see. hockey is just as big as basketball at the U

get over the UND thing you guys dont play anymore let them be

[MNLonghorn10]

stfu tubby jesus.

[SDbison]

stfu tubby jesus. tubass.......

[MNLonghorn10]

that was a foul on the lay up?? wow

[NDSUFan_Sav]

lazy and terrible pass by bjorklund and dumb foul on the other end and if you're gonna foul make it known.

[Bisonwinagn]

Tubby should learn how to coach instead of yelling at the refs!!!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

that was off minnesota

[BandwagonSamHumann]

No more close losses to gophs please pull away bison,

[HoopsBison]

that was off minnesota

Tubby has been working that ref all game to get that call, I guess it payed off.

[Wally]

NDSU: 18 fouls, 8 free throw attempts
Minn: 9 fouls, 18 free throw attempts

[HandoEX]

Wow, we have a great shot at this game! Come on Bison, pull it out!!! The stomach is churning...

[NDSUFan_Sav]

now that was an AWFUL take by LA

[NDSUFan_Sav]

What's this going for a rebound with 1 hand crap...use 2 hands and grab the damn ball.

[rabbitfarmer]

SDSU fan but cheer for NDSU when not SDSU. Very impressed with Taylor Braun and Lawrence Alexander. They are very good. Hate how tubby and his players complain the whole game...

[SDbison]

SDSU fan but cheer for NDSU when not SDSU. Very impressed with Taylor Braun and Lawrence Alexander. They are very good. Hate how tubby and his players complain the whole game... Tubby sucks!

[MNLonghorn10]

my god alexander...

[NDSUFan_Sav]

MAKE your FTS those are huse misses

[Wally]

not finishing well...missed ft, bad 3pt shot

[HoopsBison]

Sigh...it was there for the taking and still is....

[Wally]

my god alexander...

5-17 and 0-6 from 3 ouch

[NDSUFan_Sav]

bad 3 pt shot imo...could of found a better shot.

[BandwagonSamHumann]

Should of had more picks and plays for felt down the strrtch. Dam another close loss to this arrogant fanbase who hasnt won anything since 1997

[17>1]

Score?????

[SDbison]

Gophers should have to play NDSU in Fargo.......fing NCAA.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

5-17 and 0-6 from 3 ouch

he shouldn't be shooting 3's imo...he's more of an attack pg and around the lane ft shooter

[Wally]

Should of had more picks and plays for felt down the strrtch. Dam another close loss to this arrogant fanbase who hasnt won anything since 1997

1997 doesn't exist in minn basketball history

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Gophers should have to play NDSU in Fargo.......fing NCAA.

NCAA??? It's not the NCAA causing them not to play in Fargo (unless there's something I don't know about)

[Ross]

59-61 Gophers lead. 13 seconds left

[Wally]

free throws:facepalm::facepalm:

[Wally]

LA takes a bunch of terrible 3s, then has a wide open look and doesn't take it

[NDSUFan_Sav]

It wouldn't have made a difference, but why was there no Foul called on Braun's shot?

[MNLonghorn10]

as a neutral fan, those refs were horrible.

[SDbison]

NCAA??? It's not the NCAA causing them not to play in Fargo (unless there's something I don't know about) Whats fair.......both are DI. Bullshit that the Gay Ten demands all games at their place.

[Ross]

That was disappointing.

Goofs win 63-59.

[MNLonghorn10]

ndsu 21 personal fouls

minny 13

ndsu 7-14 fts(ouch)

minny 15-24

[goldenshower]

Should of had more picks and plays for felt down the strrtch. Dam another close loss to this arrogant fanbase who hasnt won anything since 1997
arrogant? have you read bisonville? dont get me started cause you dont have a leg to stand on when it comes to arrogance! maybe we dont look at ndsu as a rival and guys like you take that personal but it is what it is

[SDbison]

ndsu 21 personal fouls

minny 13

ndsu 7-14 fts(ouch)

minny 15-24 Yep Tubby and the Big Ten. Play in Fargo you losers.

[semobison]

free throws:facepalm::facepalm:

Yep, Free Throws!

[NDSUstudent]

Gophers should have to play NDSU in Fargo.......fing NCAA.

Why would they schedule a game that might be tough to win?

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Whats fair.......both are DI. Bullshit that the Gay Ten demands all games at their place.

it has nothing to do with that at all.....Texas Tech is playing at ORU.

[SDbison]

arrogant? have you read bisonville? dont get me started cause you dont have a leg to stand on when it comes to arrogance! maybe we dont look at ndsu as a rival and guys like you take that personal but it is what it is Play in Fargo once douche.......then talk big.

[HoopsBison]

How many turnovers did we have tonight???

Tray needs to learn not to travel every time he drives.

[Hammersmith]

Looking for the silver lining, this was by far the most competitive Bison/Goph game of the modern era.

[SDbison]

it has nothing to do with that at all.....Texas Tech is playing at ORU. Whos dick was sucked to get that game?

[goldenshower]

Whats fair.......both are DI. Bullshit that the Gay Ten demands all games at their place.

why should we give up a home game and come to fargo when we get nothing out of it! i dont see the difference in us only letting you guys play us in Minneapolis and you guys being unwilling to give up a money game to play und at grand forks every other year in football

[Bisonwinagn]

Bison didn't play very well and need to practice free throws at least once.....However that's the ups and downs that are expected with such a young team. Hopefully they can become more consistent by Summitt tourney time...

[semobison]

Yep Tubby and the Big Ten. Play in Fargo you losers.

Come on man! Aint gonna happen!

[SDbison]

why should we give up a home game and come to fargo when we get nothing out of it! i dont see the difference in us only letting you guys play us in Minneapolis and you guys being unwilling to give up a money game to play und at grand forks every other year in football Bunch of goofer pussies.

[goldenshower]

as for the actual game, ndsu looks tough. bjorkland and that pg are studs. good luck this season

[SDbison]

Come on man! Aint gonna happen! This isn't FBS versus FCS. Same level. Whycant the goofs play at NDSU's home if they are so good. NCAA should require it.

[HoopsBison]

Braun looked pretty good tonight.

[NDSUstudent]

The team played hard, gotta give them credit for that. The Gophers opened up a nine point lead at one point in the second half and we fought back. In past years that happens and we fold. This team could be undefeated if we had cleaned up our play at the end of a few games but it is hard to not like what this young team is doing.

Now it is time to take care of Oakland and IPFW at home. Send a message to the Summit that the Bison will be a contender this year.

[MNLonghorn10]

putting our hands in the air because this game is in minneapolis every year isn't the problem tonight..ndsu's youth clearly showed. i imagined this is how the arizona state game neded too?

give it a year or 2 more, and this ndsu will be pretty damn good, and woulda beat this minnesota team tonight no doubt.

that said, ralph sampson is horrible still. i can't wait until he's off minnesota.

[stevdock]

why should we give up a home game and come to fargo when we get nothing out of it! i dont see the difference in us only letting you guys play us in Minneapolis and you guys being unwilling to give up a money game to play und at grand forks every other year in football

He makes a point it is EXACTLY the same thing.

[goldenshower]

Bunch of goofer pussies.

good response you little bitch! now i will resort to mindless name calling cause thats what sore losers do.

[NDSUstudent]

This isn't FBS versus FCS. Same level. Whycant the goofs play at NDSU's home if they are so good. NCAA should require it.

SD teams from the power conferences don't need to play road games, that is just the way it is. If they had to go on the road lets just say the powers that be wouldn't like the results.

[SDbison]

good response you little bitch! now i will resort to mindless name calling cause thats what sore losers do. Mighty goofer.......you guys suck.

[unbison]

Ummmm gophers would not play the bison then sd it's not like they have trouble filling there schedule they are not filling
Their schedule with mayville

[NDSUFan_Sav]

why should we give up a home game and come to fargo when we get nothing out of it! i dont see the difference in us only letting you guys play us in Minneapolis and you guys being unwilling to give up a money game to play und at grand forks every other year in football

actually its a big difference...because if you played in Fargo there's no way it would be home and away you'd have more home games then away. So to play home once and in Grand Forks another is dumb if we could have 2 for 1 sure.

[BandwagonSamHumann]

as for the actual game, ndsu looks tough. bjorkland and that pg are studs. good luck this season

Dont kiss ass , your gopherhole acts like your big ten stars.
Anytime ndsu comes up you all belittle them and arrogantly talk smack when ndsu has whooped your asses hard twice

Heck ndsu with a ncaa bball berth and fbs wins and fcs playoff run actually has the upper hand

[semobison]

OTE=SDbison;581983]This isn't FBS versus FCS. Same level. Whycant the goofs play at NDSU's home if they are so good. NCAA should require it.[/QUOTE]

The NCAA requiring a team to play a non-conference game on the road?? The only way the gophs ever play in Fargo is if THEY want to! Why would they!

[SDbison]

SD teams from the power conferences don't need to play road games, that is just the way it is. If they had to go on the road lets just say the powers that be wouldn't like the results. Exactly......because they would get beat.

[HerdBot]

Screw moral victories. we can beat these guys. shows were good but i want a win. freethrows was the deciding factor

[bisonwho?]

Mighty goofer.......you guys suck.

The gophers suck? What does that make us?... just saying good game by the gophs... hats off to you guys.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

putting our hands in the air because this game is in minneapolis every year isn't the problem tonight..ndsu's youth clearly showed. i imagined this is how the arizona state game neded too?

give it a year or 2 more, and this ndsu will be pretty damn good, and woulda beat this minnesota team tonight no doubt.

that said, ralph sampson is horrible still. i can't wait until he's off minnesota.

Arizona St we tied it with 1.8 seconds left and they hit a buzzer beater to win by 3

[DjKyRo]

This isn't FBS versus FCS. Same level. Whycant the goofs play at NDSU's home if they are so good. NCAA should require it.

Same level in name only, SD. Big difference between Summit and Big Ten. I'd be surprised if Minnesota played in Fargo within my lifetime. They don't need to play the game and are willing to pay NDSU to fill out their schedule.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Screw moral victories. we can beat these guys. shows were good but i want a win. freethrows was the deciding factor

not just fts but turnovers killed us as well

[SDbison]

Ummmm gophers would not play the bison then sd it's not like they have trouble filling there schedule they are not filling
Their schedule with mayville Mayville is DII, DIII NAIA........Bison DI......so are the goofers. Try again goofer kiss ass.

[squarepeg]

Same level in name only, SD. Big difference between Summit and Big Ten. I'd be surprised if Minnesota played in Fargo within my lifetime. They don't need to play the game and are willing to pay NDSU to fill out their schedule.

Agreed, we should be grateful they play us at all. You think Mayville gets mad we won't go to their place?

[SDbison]

Same level in name only, SD. Big difference between Summit and Big Ten. I'd be surprised if Minnesota played in Fargo within my lifetime. They don't need to play the game and are willing to pay NDSU to fill out their schedule. Same level.....Same level.......same level........same level.........your point is?

[Schwarz04]

Screw moral victories. we can beat these guys. shows were good but i want a win. freethrows was the deciding factor

As was the lopsided calls of personal fouls, 13 t0 21...ridiculous..

[Bisonwinagn]

Mighty goofer.......you guys suck.

Dude!! Get off the boose and have a Merry Christmas!!

[SDbison]

Agreed, we should be grateful they play us at all. You think Mayville gets mad we won't go to their place? What level is Mayvile compared to NDSU? Exactly dumas.

[goldenshower]

Exactly......because they would get beat.

dumbest shit i have ever read! sdbison you are a bitch, a lot of bisonvillers are pretty cool but you are a whiney little bitch! minnesota is better than ndsu we spotted you guys a 12 point lead and you lost. we could play you guys 10 times this year and no way would you have won! no one thinks the gophers are some power? we are likely to get 7-9 in the big ten and no where near the top 25. gopherhole doesnt consider ndsu a rival and the fanbase doesnt care much about ndsu. i have a lot of ndsu friends so im emotionally invested. im like the 1% of gopher fans that really enjoy beating ndsu.

[mgbison]

Our free throw shooting is terrible. It's not our youth, or knowing how to close games. Its making a simple free throw.

[stevdock]

Same level.....Same level.......same level........same level.........your point is?

So is NDSU and UND in football. We don't need the UND game. UM doesn't need the NDSU game. If we don't go there they've got 15 other teams begging for that spot.

[SDbison]

Dude!! Get off the boose and have a Merry Christmas!! Who is drunk.......boose? You intended to spell booze?

[squarepeg]

What level is Mayvile compared to NDSU? Exactly dumas.

How is that stopping us from playing at Mayville other than we don't want to?

[semobison]

Alexander looked like a frosh tonight! Gophers pressure forced a lot of turnovers and at the 10 minute mark in the 2nd it looked like they may blow it open, but the Bison came back! 4 missed free throws in the last minute sealed the deal!

[NDSUstudent]

dumbest shit i have ever read! sdbison you are a bitch, a lot of bisonvillers are pretty cool but you are a whiney little bitch! minnesota is better than ndsu we spotted you guys a 12 point lead and you lost. we could play you guys 10 times this year and no way would you have won! no one thinks the gophers are some power? we are likely to get 7-9 in the big ten and no where near the top 25. gopherhole doesnt consider ndsu a rival and the fanbase doesnt care much about ndsu. i have a lot of ndsu friends so im emotionally invested. im like the 1% of gopher fans that really enjoy beating ndsu.

If we played 10 times, five home and five away we would win some games. Sorry to break it to you but the Gophers are a seven or eight win team in conference play. Getting every game in the Barn has definitely inflated your record but you are a Big 10 team so it is a perk that you get to enjoy.

[SDbison]

So is NDSU and UND in football. We don't need the UND game. UM doesn't need the NDSU game. If we don't go there they've got 15 other teams begging for that spot. So when NDSU starts playing UND in football again you don't believe games will be played in Fargo and Grand Forks? Really?

[DjKyRo]

Same level.....Same level.......same level........same level.........your point is?

There are differing levels of Division I that separate schools by prestige. Same level in the same sense that Ohio State and Bowling Green are both FBS.

[SDbison]

dumbest shit i have ever read! sdbison you are a bitch, a lot of bisonvillers are pretty cool but you are a whiney little bitch! minnesota is better than ndsu we spotted you guys a 12 point lead and you lost. we could play you guys 10 times this year and no way would you have won! no one thinks the gophers are some power? we are likely to get 7-9 in the big ten and no where near the top 25. gopherhole doesnt consider ndsu a rival and the fanbase doesnt care much about ndsu. i have a lot of ndsu friends so im emotionally invested. im like the 1% of gopher fans that really enjoy beating ndsu. So why are you here at Bisonville if you are so far superior? Please explain?

[mgbison]

I like our chances of beating the gophers in the next couple years.

The eliason kid, how is he playing in the big 10.

[NDSUstudent]

The only reason we play MN is because the game is local and it is good for recruiting. They won't come here so lets just stop with that nonsense and the system we have in place won't ever change.

[squarepeg]

If we played 10 times, five home and five away we would win some games. Sorry to break it to you but the Gophers are a seven or eight win team in conference play. Getting every game in the Barn has definitely inflated your record but you are a Big 10 so it is a perk that you get to enjoy.

Without Mbakwe of course we would win some. With him maybe not.

[SDbison]

There are differing levels of Division I that separate schools by prestige. Same level in the same sense that Ohio State and Bowling Green are both FBS. Mayville not equal to NDSU. NDSU is at same DI level. Quit bowing to the ESPN bullshit.

[HerdBot]

So when NDSU starts playing UND in football again you don't believe games will be played in Fargo and Grand Forks? Really?

we will never play them again so its a non issue

[goldenshower]

If we played 10 times, five home and five away we would win some games. Sorry to break it to you but the Gophers are a seven or eight win team in conference play. Getting every game in the Barn has definitely inflated your record but you are a Big 10 so it is a perk that you get to enjoy.

i dont think ndsu has the size or the depth to beat the U. we missed a boatload of open shots! and we had our leading scorer on the bench for most of the first half. ndsu played very good tonight to create problems for the gophers, but our press and fresh legs were what beat ndsu. nothing more nothing less. your best 5 vs our best 5 no subs, ndsu win 2-3, but thats the only way. good luck the rest of the season

[HandoEX]

The ncaa should require the gophers to play in Fargo? Wtf???

[squarepeg]

Alexander looked like a frosh tonight! Gophers pressure forced a lot of turnovers and at the 10 minute mark in the 2nd it looked like they may blow it open, but the Bison came back! 4 missed free throws in the last minute sealed the deal!

He did but he was having success getting to the rim.

[NDSUstudent]

Without Mbakwe of course we would win some. With him maybe not.

Agreed, against mid-majors he is a game changer. None of their other big man come close to matching what he gives them.

[NDSUstudent]

i dont think ndsu has the size or the depth to beat the U. we missed a boatload of open shots! and we had our leading scorer on the bench for most of the first half. ndsu played very good tonight to create problems for the gophers, but our press and fresh legs were what beat ndsu. nothing more nothing less. your best 5 vs our best 5 no subs, ndsu win 2-3, but thats the only way. good luck the rest of the season

We missed a ton of free throws, turnovers and had bad shots. Sorry to break it you but we didn't play a perfect game. MN pressure had something to do with that but it didn't have everything to do with it.

With Mbakwe gone your bigs are mediocore at best.

[SDbison]

The ncaa should require the gophers to play in Fargo? Wtf??? Yep......at least one per 4 games, but beyond your comprehension I am sure.

[bisonwho?]

LOL all you bison fans are the same. Especially (SD bison) S*** D*** bison? or whatever he does with his free time. Face it ndsu will never get the recognition in ANY sport like the B10 gets. Its cute how you guys are so passionate and everything but ndsu as a "university" and as a "recognized" sports "university" is never gonna happen... but hey SD at least you still have your Jager to go home to... theres something going for ya!

[DjKyRo]

Mayville not equal to NDSU. NDSU is at same DI level. Quit bowing to the ESPN bullshit.

It's not ESPN bullshit, SD. You're angry and I understand that. To argue that Minnesota has some obligation to come play in Fargo and should be compelled to by the NCAA is flat-out ridiculous to anyone who knows how college basketball works.

It isn't fair. That's the price of getting the game. Minnesota holds the cards and calls the shots - if we want to play them, we do it on their terms. Period.

[HerdBot]

The only reason we play MN is because the game is local and it is good for recruiting. They won't come here so lets just stop with that nonsense and the system we have in place won't ever change.

womens gophers came here in 06-07 and we won. that was a few years after their final 4 team. of course back then we had a good coach and recruiter

[Bisonwinagn]

I like our chances of beating the gophers in the next couple years.

The eliason kid, how is he playing in the big 10.

He's actually played pretty well this year, but Tubby doesn't know how to run an offense and plays his post players on top of the key. If they used him as a true post up he could be very good.

[HandoEX]

Yep......at least one per 4 games, but beyond your comprehension I am sure.
Uh yeah, faaaar beyond my comprehension. The ncaa shouldnt be forcing anyone to play, not their call and should never be their call.

[NDSUstudent]

womens gophers came here in 06-07 and we won. that was a few years after their final 4 team. of course back then we had a good coach and recruiter

It is easier to get bigger names in for women's hoops...$$$$ changes everything on the men's side. Tubby's massive contract doesn't pay for itself.

[SDbison]

LOL all you bison fans are the same. Especially (SD bison) S*** D*** bison? or whatever he does with his free time. Face it ndsu will never get the recognition in ANY sport like the B10 gets. Its cute how you guys are so passionate and everything but ndsu as a "university" and as a "recognized" sports "university" is never gonna happen... but hey SD at least you still have your Jager to go home to... theres something going for ya! Bite me Mr Red Chicklet.

[bisonwho?]

Bite me Mr Red Chicklet.

Nah thats lakes and slicks job... not mine.

[Bryan]

Wow, i expected more from NDSU fans, this is pretty pathetic, you want to be treated like a major program, then act like it.

As for a game in Fargo, never going to happen. the money angle is obvious and that is the same for every BCS school who play 85% of the non-conf at home. Then the question of what is there to gain from the game from MN or any Big Ten or Big 12 teams perspective. It would be different if a school like Duluth or St. Thomas was D1, then a home and home would happen.

Bison are more than likely going to have to wait until 2013 to get another crack at MN because unless something has changed in the past week, they will not be on the schedule next year, same for SDSU, UND and USD will replace them and then the plan is to play 2 of the 4 Dakota schools every year on a rottating basis.

[heckler]

I agree with square peg, we need to drop some levels to play all North Dakota teams home and away. But in all seriousness the goofer fan base is even more arrogant than the team without a mascot.

[4mcruenomore]

I don't want to read a bunch, or search. I bet we lost?

[heckler]

LOL all you bison fans are the same. Especially (SD bison) S*** D*** bison? or whatever he does with his free time. Face it ndsu will never get the recognition in ANY sport like the B10 gets. Its cute how you guys are so passionate and everything but ndsu as a "university" and as a "recognized" sports "university" is never gonna happen... but hey SD at least you still have your Jager to go home to... theres something going for ya!

Even when we beat you in sports we are still hardly recognized but that says worse things about your team than ours.

[4mcruenomore]

I don't want to read a bunch, or search. I bet we lost?

Yup we lost, 63-59. On a positive note, Sting & Jeff Hardy beat Bully Ray & Bobby Rude in tag team action and Boise St. won some turd bowl game. No clue what the NFL is doing, sh*tty teams in that one.

[Facts]

Yep......at least one per 4 games, but beyond your comprehension I am sure.
I thought you were anti big gov?

[4mcruenomore]

Is it possible to just move football to FCS and keep the rest of the shitty teams at DII? Just curious.

[Facts]

It's not ESPN bullshit, SD. You're angry and I understand that. To argue that Minnesota has some obligation to come play in Fargo and should be compelled to by the NCAA is flat-out ridiculous to anyone who knows how college basketball works.

It isn't fair. That's the price of getting the game. Minnesota holds the cards and calls the shots - if we want to play them, we do it on their terms. Period.

This......

[4mcruenomore]

Ya know, you aren't a bad guy in real life, but holy shit you are a fucking idiot. I am dead serious, i think yoy must be insane sometimes.

I was just joking, I was trying to take some heat away from SD! LOL

[goldenshower]

I was just joking, I was trying to take some heat away from SD! LOL

SD needs the heat! that guy obviously had his first beers tonight!

[HandoEX]

I was just joking, I was trying to take some heat away from SD! LOL
Well played. Lol

[Gully]

Back to the game. We played well enough to be in it and had a shot if we would have made some freethrows and wide open 3s at the end.

It is frustrating to watch them ride our point guard all the way up the floor and consistently go over the back without calls but then our touchy fouls get called. I've left every Gopher/Bison game thinking the same thing. All the extra free throws the Gophers had were the difference in the game.

Still, pretty good showing for a bunch of freshmen and sophomores. Going to be a good team as they progress.

[BisonTeacher]

Was at the game.

-Those refs were horrible. One in particular. Both ways.
-LA needs to handle pressure. We also can't leave him alone like that...someone set a screen for him.
-One handed rebounds? They were trying to use both hands, but Sampson was HOLDING their arms all night.
-Offense looked tentative. like they didnt know what shot they were looking for.
-Free throws killed us. AND gophers actually hit most of theirs for once.
-Taylor Braun played really well.
-Club room has no booze. Boooo!
-Good to see GraftonBison and Gully at the game. Didnt get to meet Road. He ditched us for outback. Cant say I blame him.
Winnable game. Let it get away. We were intimidated.

[herdmember]

I can't help but think we may have made a mistake by not redshirting Lindberg and playing Lundberg as the backup PG. I think Lindberg will be dynamite, but at this point we're basically wasting a year with him, and Lundberg would bring more production/experience in that 2nd PG spot. Seems like the move worked out bad for this year and the future. It's possible Lindberg insisted on playing right away, which is fine, but it may be time to shake up the depth chart.

Note - I am by NO means blaming any part of losing this game on Lindberg, or any game for that matter. Just a comment in general that we may have gambled on this decision and missed.

[HandoEX]

Is something up with Lundberg, like an injury? Seems like Zastrow is now ahead of him in PT...

[NDSUstudent]

Is something up with Lindberg, like an injury? Seems like Zastrow is now ahead of him in PT...

You mean Lundberg right? Right now he is basically a defensive replacement for Zastrow, that said Zastrow didn't even play tonight so maybe Saul is going with an even tighter rotation.

[Hopeful-Bison-Baller]

If we wanna win games, and have a good season, we should only go 7 deep and play NO ONE else unless it is a blowout either way. Those 7 being LA, Dylan, Braun, Trayvonn, Marshall, Felt, and Aaberg. The ONLY way anyone else should play minus a blowout is from foul trouble. At the same time, I think Drew should play, he is clearly the 2nd best PG we have, I dont know why he doesnt play. We would have won if we only played those guy, though we were in foul trouble unfortunately. Bad loss, we should have won. Free throws have killed this team the last 2 years (that I know of), and they should do nothing but do free throws in practice this next week.

[The Lost Dutchman]

If we wanna win games, and have a good season, we should only go 7 deep and play NO ONE else unless it is a blowout either way. Those 7 being LA, Dylan, Braun, Trayvonn, Marshall, Felt, and Aaberg. The ONLY way anyone else should play minus a blowout is from foul trouble. At the same time, I think Drew should play, he is clearly the 2nd best PG we have, I dont know why he doesnt play. We would have won if we only played those guy, though we were in foul trouble unfortunately. Bad loss, we should have won. Free throws have killed this team the last 2 years (that I know of), and they should do nothing but do free throws in practice this next week.

I will flat out call you out on this and say that there is no way Drew is the 2nd best PG on this team. There is clearly a reason why he's not playing and it's because the coaches are playing the best players. The coaching staff is about winning period and the best players will play period.

Also, this isn't a terrible loss in any stretch of the imagination. We're talking about a good basketball team that could be NCAA bound. A bad loss would be against a team like Mayville St!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Hate to bring this back up but SD isn't the only one to think Minnesota should play in Fargo. The Dome was brought up if they did come to Fargo.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I will flat out call you out on this and say that there is no way Drew is the 2nd best PG on this team. There is clearly a reason why he's not playing and it's because the coaches are playing the best players. The coaching staff is about winning period and the best players will play period.

Also, this isn't a terrible loss in any stretch of the imagination. We're talking about a good basketball team that could be NCAA bound. A bad loss would be against a team like Mayville St!

I'm not saying it's a bad loss but disappointing for how we jumped out early. I knew Minnesota would make a push but we went completely flat and let them take over. We then had chances late and couldn't put it out, not a bad loss, but how some things went it's a very disappointing loss.

[NDSUstudent]

I will flat out call you out on this and say that there is no way Drew is the 2nd best PG on this team. There is clearly a reason why he's not playing and it's because the coaches are playing the best players. The coaching staff is about winning period and the best players will play period.

Also, this isn't a terrible loss in any stretch of the imagination. We're talking about a good basketball team that could be NCAA bound. A bad loss would be against a team like Mayville St!

Agreed, against a team with athletic guards he is very limited. Lindberg is a big strong kid, he provides some things outside of scoring that Drew can't.

[HoopsBison]

Zastrow only plays in two certain situations. Late in the first and when I say late I mean under a minute left or at the end of the game for free throws. As for Lundberg its kind of sad to see where he sits these days but this is strictly because of the new talent that has been brought in.

Lindberg is not the same guard as LA, he may not have as big of an immediate impact as LA, but he certainly makes players around him better and will continue to grow. Hes only a freshman and will continue to grow in confidence as he gets to play.

As for LA, in my honest opinion he had a tough game today. Turnovers, bad shots, and missed free throws. He remained aggressive the whole game though and fought til the end.

Tough game, one I feel we certainly should have won but let it slip away.

[Hopeful-Bison-Baller]

I will flat out call you out on this and say that there is no way Drew is the 2nd best PG on this team. There is clearly a reason why he's not playing and it's because the coaches are playing the best players. The coaching staff is about winning period and the best players will play period.

Also, this isn't a terrible loss in any stretch of the imagination. We're talking about a good basketball team that could be NCAA bound. A bad loss would be against a team like Mayville St!

Yes Drew is 2nd best, sorry. But fine just for you, take him out. Lets only go 7 deep. That is the only way we can make the Tourny this year through the Summit tourny IMO. Play all 7 of those players 28-30 minutes/game.

Also, I didnt say it was a terrible loss, I said it was a bad loss. Im sick of losing all these close games that we should be winning. WIU? hahahahaha that is a joke, cant even be mad about that. That loss is so bad, it is funny. We will smash them when they come to Fargo. Arizona State was a bad loss too. They are horrible and lost to both Fresno State and Northern Arizona. No way they should have won, let alone on some bogus buzzer beater. Minnesota isnt even good, especially with Mo Walker and Mbakwe out. Their record is a product of a bunch of scrub teams they get at home. If our team ever learns how to make a free throw, we will finally be able to win some of these games. Until then, we will beat the bad team, and lose close ones to the above avg teams. That being said, I think we end up either 21-8 or 22-7 going into the Summit tourny.

[goldenshower]

Hate to bring this back up but SD isn't the only one to think Minnesota should play in Fargo. The Dome was brought up if they did come to Fargo.

i hope the gophers never play in fargo! i will never support playing a non conf road game vs a team in a weak conf. if we play any non conf road games they better be @ a big east school, acc, big 12, sec, pac 12, conf usa, a10! these conference road games would help our rpi, if we play in fargo and win its not going to be a boost. if we lose its a huge red flag for our season. so it would be a lose situation. if ndsu wants to play us, its in our benefit to know ndsu fans will fill the barn on a thurs 2 days before xmas and we can make some easy non conf cash. but no chance in hell we should ever play in fargo!

[NorthernBison]

i hope the gophers never play in fargo! i will never support playing a non conf road game vs a team in a weak conf. if we play any non conf road games they better be @ a big east school, acc, big 12, sec, pac 12, conf usa, a10! these conference road games would help our rpi, if we play in fargo and win its not going to be a boost. if we lose its a huge red flag for our season. so it would be a lose situation. if ndsu wants to play us, its in our benefit to know ndsu fans will fill the barn on a thurs 2 days before xmas and we can make some easy non conf cash. but no chance in hell we should ever play in fargo!

I'd have to say that's a pretty accurate and honest assessment of how major conference programs look at playing most mid-majors.

About the only potential exception to that is conference scheduling deals. The big guys do it in football (Big 10/MAC). It really doesn't happen in basketball. To add to the problem is the fact that the Summit is highly unlikely to ever get strong enough to work out a deal with a major conference.

Bottom line? About the only way the Gopher Basketball team ever ends up in Fargo is if their plane has mechanical problems and they need to make an Emergency landing.

[BlueKeyAlum]

i hope the gophers never play in fargo! i will never support playing a non conf road game vs a team in a weak conf. if we play any non conf road games they better be @ a big east school, acc, big 12, sec, pac 12, conf usa, a10! these conference road games would help our rpi, if we play in fargo and win its not going to be a boost. if we lose its a huge red flag for our season. so it would be a lose situation. if ndsu wants to play us, its in our benefit to know ndsu fans will fill the barn on a thurs 2 days before xmas and we can make some easy non conf cash. but no chance in hell we should ever play in fargo!

It most likely benefits both schools to have the game played in Minny. Gophers make more money as the Bison fan base in the Cities gets into the game. NDSU makes more money from the U. And many bison fans get to see the game. It's the Fargo hotel and food establishments that would really benefit from a Gopher - Bison game in Fargo.

[JSUBison]

For those saying Minnesota would never play at NDSU, give it time it could happen after a few more years of NDSU paying it's dues and getting a bit more cred. Tennessee played at Oakland this year, and Texas Tech played at Oral Roberts last night. I don't know what kind of negotiations occurred to get those games, but there is history of schools from major conferences playing at Summit league teams. Minnesota may be a different set of circumstances I'll admit, almost like if Oklahoma State played at ORU, which I don't think has ever happened because it's kind of the same reasoning of Minnesota not playing at NDSU.

[ndsubison1]

why should we give up a home game and come to fargo when we get nothing out of it! i dont see the difference in us only letting you guys play us in Minneapolis and you guys being unwilling to give up a money game to play und at grand forks every other year in football

has minnesota even played a true road game yet? wow

turnovers and free throws killed us. again.

[ndsubison1]

If we wanna win games, and have a good season, we should only go 7 deep and play NO ONE else unless it is a blowout either way. Those 7 being LA, Dylan, Braun, Trayvonn, Marshall, Felt, and Aaberg. The ONLY way anyone else should play minus a blowout is from foul trouble. At the same time, I think Drew should play, he is clearly the 2nd best PG we have, I dont know why he doesnt play. We would have won if we only played those guy, though we were in foul trouble unfortunately. Bad loss, we should have won. Free throws have killed this team the last 2 years (that I know of), and they should do nothing but do free throws in practice this next week.

we were in foul trouble, like always when we play at the Barn

[ndsubison1]

I'd have to say that's a pretty accurate and honest assessment of how major conference programs look at playing most mid-majors.

About the only potential exception to that is conference scheduling deals. The big guys do it in football (Big 10/MAC). It really doesn't happen in basketball. To add to the problem is the fact that the Summit is highly unlikely to ever get strong enough to work out a deal with a major conference.

Bottom line? About the only way the Gopher Basketball team ever ends up in Fargo is if their plane has mechanical problems and they need to make an Emergency landing.

unc at unc-asheville. wisconsin at milwaukee. texas tech at oral roberts. missouri at oral roberts. tennessee at oakland. just a few off the top of my head

[TheBisonator]

Two things (I was at the game last night):

1) If we could have hit our damn free throws at the last minute, the game would have at LEAST gone to OT.

2) Is it selfish to ask the Gophers to travel to Fargo ONE GAME out of every SIX GAMES NDSU travels to Mineapolis?? This is the SIXTH game the Bison have played at Minn. in the past 7 seasons and NO return trip. I would have to think that it's a fair deal to ask for a fucking SIX FOR ONE against a Big Ten team. Hell, I think even frickin DUKE would give us a SIX for one. So any Bison fans on this thread going, "Aw shucks, Minn. would NEVER come up to Fargo, we're too small time!! hyuck hyuck" have another case of North Dakota-itis.

[MNLonghorn10]

i hope the gophers never play in fargo! i will never support playing a non conf road game vs a team in a weak conf. if we play any non conf road games they better be @ a big east school, acc, big 12, sec, pac 12, conf usa, a10! these conference road games would help our rpi, if we play in fargo and win its not going to be a boost. if we lose its a huge red flag for our season. so it would be a lose situation. if ndsu wants to play us, its in our benefit to know ndsu fans will fill the barn on a thurs 2 days before xmas and we can make some easy non conf cash. but no chance in hell we should ever play in fargo!
agreed. itd be a very dumb move by minnesota.

cue the "yea, youre just scared" comments

[TheBisonator]

unc at unc-asheville. wisconsin at milwaukee. texas tech at oral roberts. missouri at oral roberts. tennessee at oakland. just a few off the top of my head

I saw Duke play at UNC-Greensboro on TV last year. Western Illinois hosted Indiana several years ago. Anyone forget that we hosted Kansas State??

[TheBisonator]

agreed. itd be a very dumb move by minnesota.

cue the "yea, youre just scared" comments

SIX games at Williams Arena and we can't get ONE at the FFD. Like I said, I don't think that's normal. I bet we could sign a six-for-one with any of the elite teams. We were close to signing a 3-for-1 with Iowa a few years ago, so don't give me that crap.

[unbison]

It is all for not guys we can choose to play in the barn or not play the gophers..... Unfair yes but reality

[MNLonghorn10]

SIX games at Williams Arena and we can't get ONE at the FFD. Like I said, I don't think that's normal. I bet we could sign a six-for-one with any of the elite teams. We were close to signing a 3-for-1 with Iowa a few years ago, so don't give me that crap.
why did they fall through? because iowa doesnt benefit from anything besides a trip to fargo? stop playing the "poor us" crap. minnesota doesnt have to schedule shit. hell they shouldnt even be scheduling ndsu as it is since they are currently a 104 on the rpi, but ndsu's just a tune up for b1g play.

again, if minnesota loses @ ndsu, and it comes to tourney time-you know the b1g gets more than just an automatic qualifier, that loss would make the committee raise their eye brows and say "why are they losing to a summit league team"...just to make all 3500 basketball fans in town here happy?

[MNLonghorn10]

also posters on here are not playing the whine card if la makes the 2 ft's to tie the game and ndsu wins. quit making the team look bad. jesus, its not like you lost by 30 like previous years. in a few years this team will be good, and this debate will be forgotten.

[TheDoctor]

I saw Duke play at UNC-Greensboro on TV last year. Western Illinois hosted Indiana several years ago. Anyone forget that we hosted Kansas State??

You bring up some valid pts nator, BUT don't lie and say you watched Duke play at UNC Greensboro, because A) it was the only game of Duke's all year that was only broadcast locally (RJ Network) and B) if you attended the game then you would know they played in Cameron. The only way Duke is playing @ UNC Greensboro, is if it is the host ( which it often is) of the ACC Tournament. :rofl: :rofl: ;)

[ndsubison1]

You bring up some valid pts nator, BUT don't lie and say you watched Duke play at UNC Greensboro, because A) it was the only game of Duke's all year that was only broadcast locally (RJ Network) and B) if you attended the game then you would know they played in Cameron. The only way Duke is playing @ UNC Greensboro, is if it is the host ( which it often is) of the ACC Tournament. :rofl: :rofl: ;)

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=303632430

i believe it was the first time in awhile that duke played a true away game at a mid-major

[BisonBlogger]

Impressive showing by the Bison IMO.

Considering how much pressure, LA is a freshman point guard, was for the whole game and how he handled it shows a lot of promise for the rest of the season. He really showed a lot of moxie and confidence. He will become a more skilled shooter and distributor this season and in future seasons.

I know the FT's were a problem last night but the fact LA went 0 for 6 from three was equally a cause for the loss. He hits two we win.

That doesn't mean he shouldn't take them. He needs to be a threat from out there to make guards get up on him in order to use his considerable dribble drive talent. When he starts getting confidence in the three ball watch out. It will make the Bison very tough to beat.

[bisonsupporter]

This game should be used as a measuring stick. Come March every team must be at its best. We know we need to work on free throws, and better shot selection.

Instead of getting the Goofers in Fargo, why dont we try a team like colorado or nebraska? Sounds like the goofers will not come here no matter what.

[TheBisonator]

This game should be used as a measuring stick. Come March every team must be at its best. We know we need to work on free throws, and better shot selection.

Instead of getting the Goofers in Fargo, why dont we try a team like colorado or nebraska? Sounds like the goofers will not come here no matter what.

I think a PAC-12 team like Utah, Colorado, a B1G team like Northwestern or Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Arizona State, those could all work for 3-for-1's.

[Hammersmith]

The only sure way I can see big-6 teams coming to Fargo is if we improve to the point where we help their RPI. For those that don't know, there's a home/away modification used in RPI calculations. The last I heard, it was a .75/1.25 adjustment*. A win at home was worth .75 of a win on a neutral court, an away win was worth 1.25, a home loss was worth 1.25, and an away loss was worth .75. The adjustment was an attempt by the NCAA to get high majors out of their home courts and on the road for OOC games. Not that it worked. Historically, the RPI of NDSU and the Summit was such that high majors would take an RPI hit even with the bonus and a win. We have got to get to the point that our RPI is strong enough for the bonus to mean something to Minnesota. Maybe it will never happen, but it's about our only chance. We've got a nice run going right now in the Summit, but we're going to have to maintain that for a few years before the high majors stop considering it a fluke. And we're going to have to do it without ORU. A Summit team in the Sweet Sixteen would also help a ton(more so if that team were the Bison). In short, if we want any chance of a game in Fargo, it's up to us(the team & conference) to keep winning and establish a new reputation as a solid mid major. Until that happens, I'm not blaming Minn one little bit for not coming to Fargo.

*it might actually be .5/1.5, but don't quote me on that**
**according to Wiki, it's .6/1.4 and only counts for the WP (RPI = .25*WP + .5*OWP + .25*OOWP)

[TheDoctor]

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=303632430

i believe it was the first time in awhile that duke played a true away game at a mid-major

Wow! I stand corrected, a favor to Dement who was a former Duke assistant....that was 2010 though and Nator was referring to the game the other night (19th I think) where they played in Cameron. ;)

[HoopsBison]

If we are talking about teams doing favors to us or having connections, I think it would be more likely that Wisconsin would come to Fargo then Minnesota.

[bisonfan08]

In regards to all this talk about the Gophers coming to play us or any big 6 school coming to play us, as much as I would like to see it, until the SHAC is complete it just ain't gonna happen, nobody wants to play in the shithole that is the BSA. Talk of the Fargodome for big games, but honestly the dome's atmosphere is just not set up to be good for bball, it's a football and concert facility. We first need to schedule a decent OOC road schedule against some top teams, win a game or two against them to boost our RPI and get the remodel done and we will get some deals to get teams to Fargo.

As far as the game goes, hard fought game but just too many mistakes by a young bison team. Too many turnovers, missed free throws and foul trouble. I love LA, but he was trying to do too much at the end of the game, he wanted to be the hero and he couldn't get the shots to fall. Had he made those 3's at the end I'd be right along with everyone praising his awesomeness, but he's not the guy that should be taking those shots, we have an 50% 3PT shooter in Felt and a more veteran guy in Braun that should have the ball in there hands in those situations. Still a decent showing and this team has a lot of room for growth so to play within 4 pts against the Gophers who usually destroy us, it definitely shows we are on the right track.

[bisonsupporter]

In regards to all this talk about the Gophers coming to play us or any big 6 school coming to play us, as much as I would like to see it, until the SHAC is complete it just ain't gonna happen, nobody wants to play in the shithole that is the BSA. Talk of the Fargodome for big games, but honestly the dome's atmosphere is just not set up to be good for bball, it's a football and concert facility. We first need to schedule a decent OOC road schedule against some top teams, win a game or two against them to boost our RPI and get the remodel done and we will get some deals to get teams to Fargo.

As far as the game goes, hard fought game but just too many mistakes by a young bison team. Too many turnovers, missed free throws and foul trouble. I love LA, but he was trying to do too much at the end of the game, he wanted to be the hero and he couldn't get the shots to fall. Had he made those 3's at the end I'd be right along with everyone praising his awesomeness, but he's not the guy that should be taking those shots, we have an 50% 3PT shooter in Felt and a more veteran guy in Braun that should have the ball in there hands in those situations. Still a decent showing and this team has a lot of room for growth so to play within 4 pts against the Gophers who usually destroy us, it definitely shows we are on the right track.

Very true....

[BisonBlogger]

Felt is a great shooter but has to have help with off the ball screens to get his looks and Braun is not comfortable from three point range. When its crunch time or the shot clock is going down, it most of the time will require someone to create offense as a triple threat. LA is the guy. IMO he has a good start. It will come. He has the tools.

[semobison]

Impressive showing by the Bison IMO.

Considering how much pressure, LA is a freshman point guard, was for the whole game and how he handled it shows a lot of promise for the rest of the season. He really showed a lot of moxie and confidence. He will become a more skilled shooter and distributor this season and in future seasons.

I know the FT's were a problem last night but the fact LA went 0 for 6 from three was equally a cause for the loss. He hits two we win.

That doesn't mean he shouldn't take them. He needs to be a threat from out there to make guards get up on him in order to use his considerable dribble drive talent. When he starts getting confidence in the three ball watch out. It will make the Bison very tough to beat.

Alexander is a great talent but this was by far his toughest game as a Bison! Besides the free throws and the missed 3 at the end he had 7 turnovers! He did do some nice things as you pointed out, but 7 turnovers by your point guard usually spells trouble! Its going to be great watching this young player for the next 4 years but this game should be chalked up as a learning experience for him!

[bisonsupporter]

Alexander is a great talent but this was by far his toughest game as a Bison! Besides the free throws and the missed 3 at the end he had 7 turnovers! He did do some nice things as you pointed out, but 7 turnovers by your point guard usually spells trouble! Its going to be great watching this young player for the next 4 years but this game should be chalked up as a learning experience for him!

And took a bad 3 attempt and didnt attempt the wide open 3 at the end of the game.

[gopherluv]

Two things (I was at the game last night):

1) If we could have hit our damn free throws at the last minute, the game would have at LEAST gone to OT.

2) Is it selfish to ask the Gophers to travel to Fargo ONE GAME out of every SIX GAMES NDSU travels to Mineapolis?? This is the SIXTH game the Bison have played at Minn. in the past 7 seasons and NO return trip. I would have to think that it's a fair deal to ask for a fucking SIX FOR ONE against a Big Ten team. Hell, I think even frickin DUKE would give us a SIX for one. So any Bison fans on this thread going, "Aw shucks, Minn. would NEVER come up to Fargo, we're too small time!! hyuck hyuck" have another case of North Dakota-itis.

Maybe NDSU should really stick it to the U, and not schedule the Gophers until they are willing to play the Bison in Fargo. Riiiight...that will show'em :-/

[bisonwho?]

Maybe NDSU should really stick it to the U, and not schedule the Gophers until they are willing to play the Bison in Fargo. Riiiight...that will show'em :-/

No kidding... ndseww fans are more delusional than I thought.

[Hammersmith]

No kidding... ndseww fans are more delusional than I thought.
Come on. There are almost a thousand active members on this site and, what, three of them say the Gophers should be required to play in Fargo? And those three are among our most high-strung and/or belligerent posters? Surely you have a couple or twelve like that on GopherHole? All the rest of us say that Minnesota doesn't owe us Fargo games and, if we were ever to get one, it must come after we've put forth a huge amount of work to improve our program and our conference. I guess you can either accept that a tiny minority of Bison fans hold a dumb opinion, or we can go to your message board and search for two or three asshat posters and then judge your entire fanbase according to them. Or are you a representative of those two or three?

[semobison]

Come on. There are almost a thousand active members on this site and, what, three of them say the Gophers should be required to play in Fargo? And those three are among our most high-strung and/or belligerent posters? Surely you have a couple or twelve like that on GopherHole? All the rest of us say that Minnesota doesn't owe us Fargo games and, if we were ever to get one, it must come after we've put forth a huge amount of work to improve our program and our conference. I guess you can either accept that a tiny minority of Bison fans hold a dumb opinion, or we can go to your message board and search for two or three asshat posters and then judge your entire fanbase according to them. Or are you a representative of those two or three?

Very well stated!!

[MNLonghorn10]

No kidding... ndseww fans are more delusional than I thought.

how? 2 or 3 guys think minny should goto fargo...the rest of us say minnesota has nothing to gain and itd be dumb of them too.

[MNLonghorn10]

Come on. There are almost a thousand active members on this site and, what, three of them say the Gophers should be required to play in Fargo? And those three are among our most high-strung and/or belligerent posters? Surely you have a couple or twelve like that on GopherHole? All the rest of us say that Minnesota doesn't owe us Fargo games and, if we were ever to get one, it must come after we've put forth a huge amount of work to improve our program and our conference. I guess you can either accept that a tiny minority of Bison fans hold a dumb opinion, or we can go to your message board and search for two or three asshat posters and then judge your entire fanbase according to them. Or are you a representative of those two or three?

well he did find the time to register on an ndsu board, and talk shit.

he wasn't seen around on here in september, funny how that works. i know exactly what kind of minnesota sports fan he is. one of them annoying ass "well we shoulda done so and so to keep so and so here" or "why didnt we draft this guy hes doin good here but we're stuck with another one of these"..guys like him are your basic shithead, play it by ear, wait for results to happen then take a stand sports fans. probably doesnt even go to gopher games unless his parents drive him.

[BisonTeacher]

Felt is a great shooter but has to have help with off the ball screens to get his looks

True. He was working hard to get open all night with very little help and the speedy gophers shadowed him really well.

[imabison]

True. He was working hard to get open all night with very little help and the speedy gophers shadowed him really well.

I copied the BTN broadcast this afternoon, and yes its copyrighted.

I was impressed with the game, and Tubby Smith's answer to the report was very accurate.
It was something to the effect of we expexted the Gophers to run away in the 2nd half and they did not
however his answer was that Bison Defense was part of the reason.. Can I copy what I have no, will I work on it yes.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

I don't know how other schools do it, but at Kansas they try and get a game from each players home state for example Jeff Boschee and when they played at UND. Not saying if MN did that they would play here, but some schools try their best to get a game in each players home state.

[silkamilkamonico]

..couple opinions from my perspective.

I really wish Lindberg red-shirted. He doesn't do anything that both Zastrow and Lundberg can't do. I think he can be a solid well rounded player in the future, but right now the only thing he's focused on is not screwing up, and it doesn't really add anything to the team.

These are nights when I watch Wright and wish he would have redshirted too. Then I remember he's only a sophomore and an exceptional mid major talent that needs to play for us to be successful in the Summit, because he can really be explosive, but when we play teams like Minnesota, his play is not many highlights at all with bad decision making all over the place. I don't think at this point he has the basketball skill to make things happen offensively and tries to force it too many times. He can always contribute in other areas and maybe I'm just hoping too much from him.

I think we need to quit with youth, or future, or in 2 years. This team is very good NOW. They can match-up against anyone on their schedule in both size and skill, and I think the one difference in this game other than free throws from a Power conference vs Mid Major conference is we didn't have the ball handlers that could beat their fullcourt pressure, and we will not see that again on our schedule.

I am wondering where Carlson will fit in from here on out. He might have moments where he will contribute, but for a bunch of different reasons I think he's just getting beat out by Wright, Aaberg, and even Braun at times because they can all add something better than Carlson can. Carlson is a good well rounded 4, but I think those 3 are all better at him in something that each rotation Saul throws out needs.

just IMHO

[KSBisonFan]

Tidbit from the Minneapolis paper about our team and the Minny series.

North Dakota State has defeated Minnesota in men's basketball just once in the schools' 27-game history. The series began in 1901, with the Gophers winning 24-5. The Bison's only victory was 33-29 in the 1936-37 season.

NDSU received about $80,000 for coming to Williams Arena on Thursday night, when the Bison - with seven Minnesotans on the roster - played hard but lost 63-59.

The Bison (8-3), a young and spirited team, want to continue the series against Minnesota (12-1).

"We've talked about extending that (contract)," NDSU coach Saul Phillips said.

Phillips went as far as saying he would welcome the Gophers to Fargo, N.D., for a game in the school's dome.

"We probably could put 12,000 in that dome," he said. "It probably would be the biggest men's basketball event there ever."

Phillips said he would even cook for Gophers coach Tubby Smith's team if it would come to Fargo.

Smith, with a smile, declined the invitation

[goldenshower]

Tidbit from the Minneapolis paper about our team and the Minny series.

North Dakota State has defeated Minnesota in men's basketball just once in the schools' 27-game history. The series began in 1901, with the Gophers winning 24-5. The Bison's only victory was 33-29 in the 1936-37 season.

NDSU received about $80,000 for coming to Williams Arena on Thursday night, when the Bison - with seven Minnesotans on the roster - played hard but lost 63-59.

The Bison (8-3), a young and spirited team, want to continue the series against Minnesota (12-1).

"We've talked about extending that (contract)," NDSU coach Saul Phillips said.

Phillips went as far as saying he would welcome the Gophers to Fargo, N.D., for a game in the school's dome.

"We probably could put 12,000 in that dome," he said. "It probably would be the biggest men's basketball event there ever."

Phillips said he would even cook for Gophers coach Tubby Smith's team if it would come to Fargo.

Smith, with a smile, declined the invitation

Good for Tubby!

[ndsubison1]

tubby knows he would lose in fargo :fish

[JackJD]

Sidenote: I see lakesbison has been banned (again) from Gopherhole as reward for his "contributions" to the Minnesota board about the NDSU game.

[goldenshower]

tubby knows he would lose in fargo :fish

what is the reasoning for "tubby knowing he would lose in fargo"?????

ndsu in fargo or on a neutral court would not be able to handle the press very well so i still see the same outcome.

[southcliffbison]

Sidenote: I see lakesbison has been banned (again) from Gopherhole as reward for his "contributions" to the Minnesota board about the NDSU game.

Of the boards I frequent, I noticed that Panthernation is the only one that allows Lakes to post .........then, again, there's not much activity on their football board.

[southcliffbison]

Come on. There are almost a thousand active members on this site and, what, three of them say the Gophers should be required to play in Fargo? And those three are among our most high-strung and/or belligerent posters? Surely you have a couple or twelve like that on GopherHole? All the rest of us say that Minnesota doesn't owe us Fargo games and, if we were ever to get one, it must come after we've put forth a huge amount of work to improve our program and our conference. I guess you can either accept that a tiny minority of Bison fans hold a dumb opinion, or we can go to your message board and search for two or three asshat posters and then judge your entire fanbase according to them. Or are you a representative of those two or three?


Plus, the 80 grand they forked over to take a bus down there is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick; I'm just thankful they agree to play most years; that school down stream (which will remain nameless since they don't have one) would love to have the Gophs just once on their schedule.

[Gully]

what is the reasoning for "tubby knowing he would lose in fargo"?????

ndsu in fargo or on a neutral court would not be able to handle the press very well so i still see the same outcome.

The officiating has been quite one-sided in the barn. Pushing a ball handler as they dribble up the court and going over the back when another player has established inside position are generally called fouls. Except in the barn against a mid-major. That said, I seriously doubt Tubby is scared of playing in Fargo. He just knows he doesn't have to.

[Hammersmith]

what is the reasoning for "tubby knowing he would lose in fargo"?????

ndsu in fargo or on a neutral court would not be able to handle the press very well so i still see the same outcome.

Ming got a nibble.


Seriously, he puts :fish on the end of his post and you still bite? He was probably fishing for bisonwho? more than you, but you were a good second-best. Why did you even respond to something so obvious? He's poking fun at uptight Gopher fans on this site, and you totally went for it. Oh well, merry X-mas and happy new year to you in Gopherland, and hopes that your teams have a great year(unless they play the Bison, of course).

[Mr. Burgundy]

We played a grand total of ONE minute by the Junior and Senior class COMBINED!!!! Don't act like U of M just kicked our ass. We missed a bunch of wide open shots, missed critical free throws, and if you want to talk about the officials, watch with 19 minutes left in the 2nd half when they put their 3rd on Marshall Bjorklund. He couldn't buy a call in that game. We were in foul trouble, played STRICTLY underclassman and struggled......and lost by 4. Brag if you want Gopher fans, but this team wasn't scared of the Barn (finally) and played well enough to win, but didn't. Frustrated.

Bison fans....they won't be playing in Fargo. Period. Get over it. They shouldn't. lose/lose situation for them. Why would they?

Time to move on and support the team this week against two very good conference teams.

[goldenshower]

The officiating has been quite one-sided in the barn. Pushing a ball handler as they dribble up the court and going over the back when another player has established inside position are generally called fouls. Except in the barn against a mid-major. That said, I seriously doubt Tubby is scared of playing in Fargo. He just knows he doesn't have to.

i love the b.s. about the officiating! only one game has the officiating has been bad and it was the last one and i think the gophers were screwed in a handful of calls that could have led to the game getting out of hand. there were 2 terrible charge calls that austin hollins was given that he scored on and we lost some momentum. and rodney williams was constantly being held and grabbed by that white kid with the sleeve deal and no calls were ever made on that. that said ndsu was also called on a few plays the led to gopher free throws that were also very bad and killed some bison momentum. as for getting bumped bringing the ball up the court...that is big ten basketball its physical and i didnt see anything out of the ordinary in that respect.

when minnesota plays more talented teams like ohio st home or away i always feel like we are getting screwed, but the truth is ohio st is bigger and faster and can get those calls because of the position the bucks put the gophers in. has nothing to do with home cooking or bad officiating and more to do with a better ohio st team.

ndsu would not have a better outcome in fargo, you guys would still lose imo.

[goldenshower]

[QUOTE=Mr. Burgundy;583045]We played a grand total of ONE minute by the Junior and Senior class COMBINED!!!! Don't act like U of M just kicked our ass. We missed a bunch of wide open shots, missed critical free throws, and if you want to talk about the officials, watch with 19 minutes left in the 2nd half when they put their 3rd on Marshall Bjorklund. He couldn't buy a call in that game. We were in foul trouble, played STRICTLY underclassman and struggled......and lost by 4. Brag if you want Gopher fans, but this team wasn't scared of the Barn (finally) and played well enough to win, but didn't. Frustrated.

Bison fans....they won't be playing in Fargo. Period. Get over it. They shouldn't. lose/lose situation for them. Why would they?

i never acted like we "kicked your ass" i thought ndsu did what i feared they would do! they worked harder on the glass and shot the ball well. i expected either a 20 point win by the U but was also feeling like ndsu could make it interesting, especially since minnesota didnt play for like 10 days prior. ndsu has a solid team!

[goldenshower]

one last thing, many of you act like the gophers are this senior led team...its laughable. we are nearly as young as ndsu and the stat line shows it. sampson is our only senior and he played 28 min. rodney and welch are our only juniors and they both played around 30 min. but everyone else is a freshman or a sophmore. we are going to have serious growing pains this year! but i believe we will be very good in the next 2-3 years and the win streak vs ndsu will only get longer!

[Gully]

I didn't realize non-conference games were considered Big Ten games or that the Big Ten had different rules. I still say the officiating was one sided, several turnovers were caused by the pushing. You disagree....I got it.

In any event, NDSU had a good showing and was in position to win. LA is the real deal. Even though he had a rough game, you can see he has the ability. He's going to be fun to watch over the next 3 1/2 years.

[CAS4127]

Can't wait for the next NDSU game so this thread gets buried. Also can't wait for the Goofers to become irrelevant after less than half the Big 10 season. ButtTubby!!

[Mr. Burgundy]

Could you imagine a Badger fan on a UW Green Bay website bragging after a 4 point win? I am a Gopher fan, but fans that come on to this board and treat NDSU like some joke piss me off. Again, we had ZERO Juniors or Seniors play and damn near won in your house. Our Freshman PG had his worst game in his young career and we were still in position to win. Anyway, this game is over. Congrats on the close victory. Wish we would have played well so we would have won. NDSU has the talent to use that close loss to its advantage in conference play. They won't see a full court press that impressive all year, so hopefully we can put a streak together.