GDT: NDSU vs Western Illinois 11/19/11

[Gully]

did we just give the ball to the FB?

no.............

[ndsubison1]

Lang isn't really a FB.

he was lined up there tho :) it went for like 8-10 yards

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Not a great decision by Brock there

[BisonTeacher]

anyone else hear cowbells?

[bisonsupporter]

God dammit jenson. When you can see on TV that you are staring down you receiver you going to get picked!

[56BISON73]

did we just give the ball to the FB?

Lets give the FB to a fullback on an end around instead of up the middle.

[Bisonguy]

he was lined up there tho :) it went for like 8-10 yards

Line up almost like a wingback.

[HoopsBison]

Austin Richard get hurt???? I dont see him in there?

Anyone know?

[bisonsupporter]

anyone else hear cowbells?

can barely hear the commentators over them

[DjKyRo]

Southern Illinois scores two TDs in 21 seconds to go up 14-0 on Indiana State.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

ISUr throws into the endzone...almost picked off 4th and 12 now...not very smart decision for them

[UncleBuck]

Austin Richard, knee injury, on crutches.

[bisonmike2]

horrible pass by Jensen. Not sure what he saw there. not a good sign that he's forcing it into double coverage. Also, 4th and long for ISU. Looks like we're getting no help from them today.

[Gully]

anyone else hear cowbells?

yep, funny how they're only "illegal" for us

[NDSUFan_Sav]

1st down ISUr....wow scrambles and picks up the 1st down

[Gully]

Austin Richard, knee injury, on crutches.

who? ....

[X-Factor]

Austin on crutches
sprained ACL

[ndsubison1]

marcus williams pick!!!!

[SDbison]

yep, funny how they're only "illegal" for us That is total bullshit.......time for a some letters to Patty Douchbag.

[DjKyRo]

INTERCEPTION by Marcus Williams! And they'll tack on a late hit for another 15!

[BisonBabe]

Gotta love Marcus "happy feet" Williams

[NDSUFan_Sav]

huge int for Marcus Williams

ISUr 2nd down from the 1 yd line

[bisonmike2]

An incredible scramble by the ISU qb on 4th and very long to get the first down. ISU inside the 3.

[Wally]

Jensen needs to settle. He is forcing throws.

[ndsubison1]

ojuri td! yayayayaya

[bisonsupporter]

furman fg down 25-27 to florida 9 min to go in 3rd

[DjKyRo]

AND THE SCORE! Ojuri! 20-0 Bison!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

4th down for ISUr at the 2....ran up the middle back to back plays and got stuffed twice

[56BISON73]

wow is there a huge time delay. Ming calls the pick and its at least 30 seconds before I see it.

[bisonmike2]

TD ISU on 4th and goal!!!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

TD!!!!!!!!!!!!! ISUr

[TheBisonator]

AT SIMULTANEOUS TIMES:

1) Ojuri with the TD

2) ISLU ties it up in OT

[ndsubison1]

illinois st. 4th and goal at the 2. here we go

[TQ16]

An incredible scramble by the ISU qb on 4th and very long to get the first down. ISU inside the 3.

That was unbelievable!!! ISU-r looking at 4th and goal........TOUCHDOWN!!! HEADED TO DOUBLE OT!!!!!!

[ndsubison1]

AT SIMULTANEOUS TIMES:

1) Ojuri with the TD

2) ISLU ties it up in OT

looks like my gamecast for ill st-uni is slow

[Bisonguy]

Mwill!!!!!!

[TheBisonator]

I'm trying not to post in this thread, I'm watching two simultaneous games, LOL

[bisonmike2]

That was unbelievable!!! ISU-r looking at 4th and goal........TOUCHDOWN!!! HEADED TO DOUBLE OT!!!!!!

This game is amazing!

[tojo70]

Montana leads Montana State 5-0 6 min left in the half

[ndsubison1]

Montana leads Montana State 5-0 6 min left in the half

thought they didnt have baseball?

[Wally]

Georgia southern 14
Bama 24

Almost half

[devin45k]

Montana leads Montana State 5-0 6 min left in the half

one of the only times I will have to cheer for Montana over Montana State

[Gully]

thought they didnt have baseball?

teh hockies

[BisonAccountant44]

Last two ISU-R drives 6 converted 4th down plays

[TheBisonator]

Yotes leading No-Namers 27-17

[Ginsbach]

I can't believe how loud those cowbells are on the radio feed.

[bisonmike2]

ISU inside the 10 on the first possession of 2 OT.'

Now 1st and goal on the 5.

[bisonsupporter]

I can't believe how loud those cowbells are on the radio feed.

loud on tv also

[NDSUFan_Sav]

1st and goal ISUr no gain 2nd down from the 4.5

[DjKyRo]

Cole Jirik gets his second sack of the day and garners a "my oh my!" from Scotty.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

ISUr with a costly Off Pass Interference 2nd and goal from the 20

[SDbison]

I can't believe how loud those cowbells are on the radio feed.
illegal cowbells that is..........

[4mcruenomore]

We are now playing Bison football. Still not sold on Jensen or DJ not being 100%

[DjKyRo]

And another sack! Boyer gets in on it to end the half on a high note.

Halftime, Bison up 21-0.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

2nd and goal from the 29 holding on ISUr hurting themselves big time

[56BISON73]

WIU must have taken clock management pointer from us.

[bisonmike2]

ISU imploding. Was 1st and goal on the 5. Now they are backed up to the 29.

[tojo70]

Griz TD! Montana leads MT State 12-0

[NDSUFan_Sav]

4th and goal from the 19 after a 10 yd scramble and incomplete pass FG attempt

[ndsubison1]

2nd and goal from the 29 holding on ISUr hurting themselves big time

the gamecast just said brown rushed it for 52 yards? lol

[bisonmike2]

ISU shanked the fg. UNI will probably fall foward and kick a fg.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

awful kick....not even close well UNI starts from the 25 and just need a FG to get the W

[CAS4127]

My daddy CAS is the best. GO BISON.

I am six and on I phone.

[TheBisonator]

TOO many games to follow at the same time, LOL

[ndsubison1]

My daddy CAS is the best. GO BISON.

I am six and on I phone.

i remember my first beer

[bisonmike2]

My daddy CAS is the best. GO BISON.

I am six and on I phone.

by far the most intelligent post by CAS ever on bisonville. :)

[TheBisonator]

My daddy CAS is the best. GO BISON.

I am six and on I phone.

That better be your kid CAS, otherwise we have some issues, LOL

[Wally]

i remember my first beer

I started with the hard stuff

[bisonmike2]

The announcers for the UNI/ISU game are pretty good.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

UNI...kicking a FG to win it

[Wally]

The announcers for the UNI/ISU game are pretty good.

Compared to nut beard and timmerman, anyone is good:)

[56BISON73]

The announcers for the UNI/ISU game are pretty good.

WIU guys are pretty bad

[NDSUFan_Sav]

he's going for his 40th straight make going for a 36 yd fg right in the middle of the field

[bisonmike2]

UNI...kicking a FG to win it

they are doing their best to jinx him. talking about how awesome the kicker is.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

UNI wins it right down the middle.....

[TQ16]

UNI pulls it out with a FG

[bisonmike2]

UNI just won the game. F*ckers.

[TheBisonator]

Well, a share of the conference title isn't too bad....:(

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Montana up 12-0 and just blocked a MSU fg...4 seconds left in the half

[Bisonguy]

The announcers for the UNI/ISU game are pretty good.

I believe they're the same for all the MVFC games on ESPN3 and out of Chicago.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

MSU MT game is on 680 on DTV

[TheBisonator]

Yotes lead Trucks 34-17 at the half

[4mcruenomore]

MSU MT game is on 680 on DTV

No sh*t sherlock, watching it since it started! ha!

[Bison bison]

KXJB's halftime show is damn good.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

No sh*t sherlock, watching it since it started! ha!

wanna fight?????

[BisonTeacher]

I love how the ESPN3 announcers say UNI won another conference championship without mentioning they will share it with NDSU....who beat them.

[KTF]

AUstin Richard's MCL tear is a big bummer... So who are we cheering in the U of M/MSU game?

[BisonTeacher]

Anyone elses, Montana MSu feed just go to snowboarding???

[NDSUFan_Sav]

KXJB's halftime show is damn good.

Yeah Dan Hammer is amazing.............taaaaaaaaaah

[bisonmike2]

I love how the ESPN3 announcers say UNI won another conference championship without mentioning they will share it with NDSU....who beat them.

Not shit. Oh so they won the conference? That means they'll be getting the AQ right? Oh, then they didn't really win the conference but it won't stop them from painting another number on their wall.

[X-Factor]

The austin injury is going to be a big deal. Scott talking about it now

[4mcruenomore]

wanna fight?????

Better pack your lunch!

[Hammerhead]

I watched part of Maine vs. New Hampshire before the Bison game. Montana and Montana State look much more difficult than the CAA teams.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Anyone elses, Montana MSu feed just go to snowboarding???

yes...halftime I think?

[DjKyRo]

I watched part of Maine vs. New Hampshire before the Bison game. Montana and Montana State look much more difficult than the CAA teams.

CAA fans will just tell you it's an indication of how much parity there is in the CAA.

[CAS4127]

KXJB's halftime show is damn good.

Purple font?! Hammer just said SIU UP 7 zip . . Might want recheck the score Hammer!!

[BisonTeacher]

yes...halftime I think?

but it went to snowboarding after the blocked kick with time still on the clock. The announcers were just about to say...are they going to take a knee or go for it...and the screen switched.

[bisonmike2]

Purple font?! Hammer just said SIU UP 7 zip . . Might want recheck the score Hammer!!

Really? he is a tool.

[Bisonguy]

AUstin Richard's MCL tear is a big bummer... So who are we cheering in the U of M/MSU game?

A grizwalds win might help NDSU get a higher seed, although MSU played a non-DI game so NDSU would probably be ahead of them anyhow.

[CaBisonFan]

Looks like it could almost be a student tv production...whoa.

[TheBisonator]

Looks like it could almost be a student tv production...whoa.

It IS a student TV production.

[JustinTyem]

The Play by Play is good,and the color is pretty young Tv annoucers. Not to bad,not even Close as shitty as Hammer and his pecker wrecker partner!!!!

[bisonmike2]

Well the web broadcast just said they were going to show the highlights of the first half. What they really meant is that they were going to show the 3 plays where WIU didn't lose yardage.

[Bison bison]

not a fan of hammer, but the halftime show actually provided video coverage of other games and knowledgeable commentary.

[DjKyRo]

Marcus returns the opening kickoff of the 2nd half to the 39! This guy needs to be our full-timer back there, makes good things happen every time he touches the ball.

[BisonTeacher]

The Play by Play is good,and the color is pretty young Tv annoucers. Not to bad,not even Close as shitty as Hammer and his pecker wrecker partner!!!!

I loved it at the beginning when the screen rolled like an old tube TV from the 80's

[ndsubison1]

The austin injury is going to be a big deal. Scott talking about it now

yes i am very worried about our health right now. this is a big blow to our offense

[HerdBot]

Crazy day
12-0 Montana
uni wins in ot
Georgia s only down by 10
Isub getting smoked
Sam Houston tba

[DjKyRo]

BIG connection to Garrett Bruhn! Down to the WIU 25! Excellent!

[ndsubison1]

not a fan of hammer, but the halftime show actually provided video coverage of other games and knowledgeable commentary.

agreed. i thought it was good

[NDSUFan_Sav]

yes i am very worried about our health right now. this is a big blow to our offense

definitely need an extra week

[HerdBot]

Marcus returns the opening kickoff of the 2nd half to the 39! This guy needs to be our full-timer back there, makes good things happen every time he touches the ball.

agreed weapon

[DjKyRo]

Ojuri gashes it down to the WIU 10!

[Wally]

The Play by Play is good,and the color is pretty young Tv annoucers. Not to bad,not even Close as shitty as Hammer and his pecker wrecker partner!!!!

Is the 20 point green font the official pissed off font?

[BisonTeacher]

Mont MSU game back

[TheBisonator]

Take Brock out if we score a TD. He needs to rest that toe

[DjKyRo]

Make it three TDs for Ojuri! Bison score!

[NDSUFan_Sav]

TD Ojuri...making it look easy

[KTF]

was that a FB touching the ball?? Thought we didnt' do that!! HAHAHA....

[bisonmike2]

Ojuri gashes it down to the WIU 10!
http://angrywhitedude.com/wp-content/uploads2/2010/05/are-you-wizard.jpg

my feed is obviously slow.

And your avatar freaks me out.

[ndsubison1]

now the question is when do we put in esley?

[HerdBot]

Ojuri looks more explosive than dj 28-0

[TheBisonator]

TD Ojuri!!!!!

28-0 Bison pending the PAT.

Didn't I TELL you guys that we'd be taking it out on them this week??

[HerdBot]

Fuck shanked the extra point

[X-Factor]

Glad to see Ojuri getting the majority of the workload today. Well deserved.

[BisonTeacher]

Ojuri looks more explosive than dj 28-0

ditto that. Been saying that all year.

[TheBisonator]

OMG no way, missed PAT?????

[4mcruenomore]

Was that a bad snap?

[BisonFan02]

Score update: Elon is beating App St. 21-0 with 2:30 left in the first quarter...wow.

[NDSUstudent]

YSU is going to lose, wow, just wow.

[bri-dog]

now the question is when do we put in esley?


Take Brock out if we score a TD. He needs to rest that toe

I agree; Esley time!

[KTF]

who is YSU playing?

[NDSUstudent]

who is YSU playing?

Missouri State...

[DjKyRo]

who is YSU playing?

Missouri State. Guins up 3 last I heard.

[NDSUstudent]

Missouri State. Guins up 3 last I heard.

MSU just got a TD with 10 seconds left

[MontanaBisonFan]

Does anyone have the gobison video stream working?

FYI
Montana State video can be found at www.kpax.com

[ndsubison1]

TD Ojuri!!!!!

28-0 Bison pending the PAT.

Didn't I TELL you guys that we'd be taking it out on them this week??

that didnt take a genius to figure out

[bisonmike2]

YSU is going to lose, wow, just wow.
guess we won't have to worry about them in the playoffs.

horrible loss by us.:facepalm:

[DjKyRo]

PICK SIX FOR MARCUS! Booyah!

[NDSUstudent]

Pick six...MARCUS WILLIAMS!!!!!

[TheBisonator]

Youngstown State loses to one-win Missouri State, WTF????

[ndsubison1]

marcus williams for Heisman!!!!

[Bison bison]

when it wains it pours for the weathernecks...

[EmeraldCityBison]

Does anyone have the gobison video stream working?


It's working for me. WIU announcers are bad.

[TheBisonator]

Is it OK if I focus my attention to GSU/Bama and Mont/MSU???

[bisonmike2]

Why isn't M-Will on the Payton list?

[Gully]

If Brock plays one more snap, Bohl should be fired.

[NDSUstudent]

YSU loses, MVFC will have three playoff teams.

[BisonTeacher]

This ones over.

[Gully]

Why isn't M-Will on the Payton list?

He doesn't play on the East Coast.

[bri-dog]

Nice bit of camera work there!

[bisonmike2]

ESLEY THOR-TON. ESLEY THOR-TON. ESLEY THOR-TON


Time to see the back ups.

[BisonTeacher]

Get Brock out.

[coloradobison]

If Brock plays one more snap, Bohl should be fired.

Yes - time for Esley.

[North Side]

get brock out.
agreed!!!!!!

[BisonFan02]

What do you guys think a YSU loss to Misery St does for us in the grand scheme of things as far as seeding (does it make our loss look worse)? Anything?

[ndsubison1]

marcus is making our defense tired keeping them on the field!

[bisonmike2]

I'm going to stop watching the Cats/Griz. 2 huge Cat plays since I tuned in.

[NDSUFan_Sav]

guess we won't have to worry about them in the playoffs.

horrible loss by us.:facepalm:

if that loss makes us go undefeated the rest of the way...i'll take it

[Wally]

YSU loses, MVFC will have three playoff teams.

Good night. Makes last week look that much worse

[bisonmike2]

if that loss makes us go undefeated the rest of the way...i'll take it
good point.

[4mcruenomore]

I still think our loss to YSU was a good thing, I agree with Savvy Cakes.

[Bison bison]

Get Brock out.

Brock's playing Defense?!

WTF is boHL THINkingG!!?!
!

[bri-dog]

19-8 MT assuming PAT..

[4mcruenomore]

Are we playing prevent defense again? Just marching on us

[DjKyRo]

WIU running attack is doing damage, down to the NDSU 2.

[bisonmike2]

Heagle just threw a shoulder into him, I know he's got a broken thumb but he should have tried to take him low.

[ndsubison1]

great now brock will come back out for another series

[NDSUFan_Sav]

Good night. Makes last week look that much worse

who cares....game is in the past can we just forget about that game like the players obviously have. Lets go undefeated and then you won't care bout that YSU game, I promise you that.

[HandoEX]

There went the season. Vigen's fault

[bisonsupporter]

Heagle just threw a shoulder into him, I know he's got a broken thumb but he should have tried to take him low.

but this is how the bison tackle...they dont know what the term wrap up means!

[DjKyRo]

WIU TD, Bison up 34-7.

[bri-dog]

but this is how the bison tackle...they dont know what the term wrap up means!

Did one of them get someone pregnant?:)

[4mcruenomore]

There went the season. Vigen's fault

Don't make me fight you again in the west lot

[HerdBot]

12-7 montana go griz

[DjKyRo]

Brock is still in.

[BisonNeil]

I just don't understand why Bohl won't give Thorton some meaningful reps. But, he never has before so I shouldn't be surprised.

[DjKyRo]

Crazy catch by Holloway gets the Bison inside the 20!

[NDSUstudent]

I just don't understand why Bohl won't give Thorton some meaningful reps. But, he never has before so I shouldn't be surprised.

He'll get reps if we get seven here and stop them on defense.

[HandoEX]

This is fun to watch, glad I am not a Leatherneck fan!

[Wally]

It is just obsurd that jensen is in the game.

[BisonAccountant44]

It is a just obsurd that jensen is in the game.

++++++++++

[HerdBot]

19-7 griz
gs down 10 7 min 3rd

[Wally]

who cares....game is in the past can we just forget about that game like the players obviously have. Lets go undefeated and then you won't care bout that YSU game, I promise you that.

I realize that. I am talking with gpi, sos, etc

[bisonsupporter]

DJ on rest the rest of the game?

[HandoEX]

Just carving up this defense. Keep it rolling!

[NDSUstudent]

It is a just obsurd that jensen is in the game.

I don't mind it, Brock is playing well and it's good to get him back on a roll. But with a TD here it is time to shut him down.

[DjKyRo]

Ouch. WIU blocks a FG but gets called offsides. NDSU going for it again...

Good! NDSU up 37-7!

[ndsubison1]

alabama 31 georgia southern 21 late 3rd

[HandoEX]

Wow, this WIU team can't seem to do anything right

[SDbison]

dumbass fade pass called by Vigen.......wow that doesn't work!

[HerdBot]

22-7 griz Georgia southern is doing fcs proud

[TheBisonator]

Yotes lead Ralphs 37-17

[CAS4127]

Hammersmith is complaint about my color commentating. I told him to GFH!!

[BisonFan02]

dumbass fade pass called by Vigen.......wow that doesn't work!

I couldn't quite tell, but it looked like Jensen audibled to that play.

[HerdBot]

Sam Houston quick score 7-0

[SDbison]

I couldn't quite tell, but it looked like Jensen audibled to that play. I doubt that.

[Jay]

dumbass fade pass called by Vigen.......wow that doesn't work!

You do realize that was a check/audible made by Brock...

[bisonsupporter]

I couldn't quite tell, but it looked like Jensen audibled to that play.


another audible to a fade by jenson......wow not good

[semobison]

Youngstown pees down there leg and loses to Misery State!

[NDSUstudent]

ISUB 21
SIU 21 late in the third Qtr

[BisonFan02]

You do realize that was a check/audible made by Brock...

That's what I was thinking.

[HandoEX]

SD, only you could belly ache in every post when we are up 37-7. Lol!

[SDbison]

You do realize that was a check/audible made by Brock... Sure.....u know that for a fact.....

[BisonBabe]

Quick change for the Southern Il & Ind St game score now 21-19

[SDbison]

SD, only you could belly ache in every post when we are up 37-7. Lol! Bison should beat this WIU team 63-0. Lots of mistakes by the Bison. Lets see how that works against a good team in the playoffs.

[Jay]

Sure.....u know that for a fact.....

I do........

[bri-dog]

Another TD for the Griz; 29-7.

[tcbison]

Montana scores another TD...now 29-7.

[NDSUstudent]

Td wiu....

[DjKyRo]

WIU connects on a wide-open pass to the FB at the 5, dances in for the TD. 37-14 Bison.

[BadlandsBison]

Starting D getting sliced.

[Strommer10]

I know we were up by 30, but I hate to see teams score on us in "garbage" time.

[BisonNeil]

I really hate it when our D goes soft with a big lead. In the heyday of Bison football they had a killer instinct. This defense lacks that.

[4mcruenomore]

I really hate it when our D goes soft with a big lead. In the heyday of Bison football they had a killer instinct. This defense lacks that.

I think it's more coaching than players imo.

[BisonCountry]

I know we were up by 30, but I hate to see teams score on us in "garbage" time.

I agree and fear it will mean Brock stays on the field again.

[Strommer10]

If we are gonna let up, play our second team and go hard. I would have no problem with resting starters in this situation.

[BisoninNWMN]

Shouldn't Brock be sitting now?

[56BISON73]

I know we were up by 30, but I hate to see teams score on us in "garbage" time.


WIU doesnt think its garbage time.

[Strommer10]

I agree and fear it will mean Brock stays on the field again.
And yes he is still on the field. I don't think it's neccessary anymore.

[Strommer10]

WIU doesnt think its garbage time.
Exactly why i put it in quotations. We are playing like it is... That's the difference right now.

[devin45k]

Does anyone have updated stats?

[ndsubison1]

Shouldn't Brock be sitting now?

wiu keeps responding to our scores which is why he is still in

[tcbison]

I really hate it when our D goes soft with a big lead. In the heyday of Bison football they had a killer instinct. This defense lacks that.

I don't like it either but this is also DI football. It is not like we are playing Morningside and Augustana any more.

[NDSUstudent]

28-21 SIU after a pick six.

[DjKyRo]

Blocked punt by WIU...Bison need to get their heads back in the game.

[Strommer10]

Veldman drops the ball on 3rd down and they block our punt... Wake up Bison! We need to finish strong!

[NDSUstudent]

This is getting embarassing.

[BisonCountry]

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::bong:

[BisoninNWMN]

blocked punt.....need to get the "sh**" worked out

[BisonNeil]

The Bison D has sucked badly the past two series, let's see if they can get back in the game. It is tough to do with you coast to get it back in gear.

[Strommer10]

We can't let them score again. It won't look good for the committee.

[bisonmike2]

I agree with SD.

What? Did I just type that?

[TheBisonator]

You guys having a bitchfest over here???

[BisoninNWMN]

This game should be 50 -0......finish this team off.

Our defense is too much "bend" and bend some more and bend some more....

[CAS4127]

Don't like this garbage time yards!

Who is Richard's backup by the way?

[Strommer10]

Their RB Watson is a brute. Reminds me a little bit of Donaldson a few years back.

[DjKyRo]

Oh my, Crump with a big catch at the goal line. No TD but Marcus got beat on the catch. This could get interesting.

And that Watson cat gets a TD on the next play. 37-20 pending XP...

[ndsubison1]

Don't like this garbage time yards!

Who is Richard's backup by the way?

i assume hinz?

[BisoninNWMN]

WTF.....Marcus with lazy coverage.....WTF

21 points given up on this team......

[KC Bison]

I realize we have been playing like crap but these announcers think they have a chance to win

[NDSUFan_Sav]

we look like shit right now and don't say we're up by a lot...

[HerdBot]

29-7 griz 10-0 Sam h

[KTF]

Ty Beckius is in for Richard

[BisonNeil]

This is not a championship quality team. This team lost focus, does not bode well for the future. They can lose this game. This is really embarassing.

[devin45k]

You guys having a bitchfest over here???

I noticed that

[Bison bison]

21 unanswered points.

that is a joke.

[bisonmike2]

How embarrassing.

[HandoEX]

Beckius is in for Richard.

[BisonNeil]

Ty Beckius is in for Richard

He has been since the second quarter. They talked all half about his strained MCL.