Summit League Out of Conference wins vs. DI schools

[TheBisonator]

I wanted to start the annual list.

Southern Utah 76 UC Davis 75
North Dakota State 73 San Francisco 65
South Dakota State 82 Western Michigan 76
North Dakota State 78 Louisiana-Lafayette 58
Southern Utah 95 Bryant 78
North Dakota State 70 Northern Arizona 58
North Dakota State 65 Wisconsin-Green Bay 61
Oral Roberts 80 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 44
Oakland 75 Grambling State 45
Oral Roberts 71 Austin Peay 59
South Dakota State 79 Niagara 71
Oral Roberts 62 Southern Methodist 56
South Dakota State 77, Sam Houston State 60
Oakland 76 Houston 74
Oral Roberts 73 Florida International 65
South Dakota State 74 Mercer 71
Missouri-Kansas City 64 Wofford 58
Oakland 89 Utah Valley 83
Indiana-Purdue-Indianapolis 74 Texas Southern 55
Missouri-Kansas City 93 Longwood 53
Western Illinois 65 North Dakota 62
North Dakota State 78 Fresno State 65
Oakland 89 Tennessee 81
Oral Roberts 68 Missouri State 63
Indiana-Purdue-Fort Wayne 85 Valparaiso 76
Missouri-Kansas City 78 North Dakota 75
South Dakota 67 Canisius 55
South Dakota 57 Morehead State 56
Indiana-Purdue-Indianapolis 84 Western Kentucky 76
Missouri-Kansas City 74 Southeast Missouri State 69
Western Illinois 64 Eastern Illinois 48
South Dakota State 92 North Dakota 54
Oral Roberts 58 Arkansas-Little Rock 55
Indiana-Purdue-Fort Wayne 56 Dartmouth 51
Missouri-Kansas City 72 Canisius 67
Oakland 82 Valparaiso 80
Oral Roberts 64 Xavier 42
Indiana-Purdue-Fort Wayne 82 Tennessee-Martin 76
South Dakota State 92 Washington 73
Indiana-Purdue-Indianapolis 66 Ball State 57
Western Illinois 68 North Dakota 46
Oral Roberts 72 Texas Tech 56
Southern Utah 62 UC Davis 51
Indiana-Purdue-Indianapolis 88 Valparaiso 79

[godhateswalmart]

Suu is gone, bud , erase them

[DjKyRo]

Suu is gone, bud , erase them

Southern Utah is still in the Summit this season, they leave next year. Centenary is gone, though.

[godhateswalmart]

They might as well be gone, they still got that coach with half a leg ?

Plus cal davis suck in basketball & football, not an impressive win.

[Twentysix]

They might as well be gone, they still got that coach with half a leg ?

Plus cal davis suck in basketball & football, not an impressive win.

The thread isnt about good wins or shit wins. Its about summit victories over OOC opponents that are Divison 1. All of Centenaries losses counted against us last year, all of SUU's wins this year count for us.

[Twentysix]

Ndsu 78 ull 58

[DePereBisonFan]

For some perspective we should check out the OOC losses too.

[NDSUstudent]

NDSU 65
Green Bay 61

[NDSUstudent]

Why is it titled wins vs DI schools? NDSU is DI....Summit League is DI.....I don't get this thread.

It's possible teams could have non-DI wins in out of conference play.

[NDSUstudent]

ORU 80
Arkansas-Pine Bluff 44

[Herd Mentality]

Grabbing a continental breakfast at my hotel in San Jose this morning wearing my NDSU Football polo. Older guy comes up and says "NDSU....your boys looked really good against USF. Fun game." I was beaming a little bit.

[NDSUstudent]

Oakland 75
Grambling State 45

Austin Peay 59
ORU 71

[NDSUstudent]

SDSU 79 Niagara 71

[NDSUstudent]

Oral Roberts 62
SMU 56

[NDSUstudent]

Sdsu 77 - shsu 60

[NDSUstudent]

SDSU 74 Mercer 61

[tjbison]

SDSU 74 Mercer 61

Who the hell is Mercer??

[NDSUstudent]

Who the hell is Mercer??

Atlantic Sun team....I think they hosted the tournament SDSU was in...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2382/mercer-bears

[squarepeg]

Who the hell is Mercer??

They're right down the road from Bryant and Arkansas-Pine Bluff.

[NDSUstudent]

UMKC 64 Wofford 58

[NDSUstudent]

Oakland 89 Utah Valley 83

[NDSUstudent]

UMKC 93
Longwood 53


WIU 65
North Dakota 62

[JSUBison]

IUPUI 74
Texas Southern 55

[NDSUstudent]

Oakland 89 Tennessee 81

[KSBisonFan]

UNO lost by 10 at home last night to DII Washburn. Basically the opposite of the thread title but worth noting.

[Tatanka]

UNO lost by 10 at home last night to DII Washburn. Basically the opposite of the thread title but worth noting.

FEAR teh ICHABODs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[missingnumber7]

Is it me or is the list a little big longer and with more teams having wins than in past seasons? I think our conference is making a push for solid mid-major status.

[Kermit]

Is it me or is the list a little big longer and with more teams having wins than in past seasons? I think our conference is making a push for solid mid-major status.

The Summit League is on the rise and is currently 17th among 32 D-I conferences in the KenPom rankings. That equals the ranking at the end of the 2008-09 season when the Bison made their run. The SL was ranked 25th in 2009-10 and 19th last year. Since the low point in 2009-10, the Summit has moved ahead of the MAAC, Atlantic Sun, Big West, Big Sky, Ohio Valley, Sunbelt, and Southland. Just ahead of the Summit now, but within sight, are the Ivy League (16), MAC (15), and WAC (14).

[KSBisonFan]

FEAR teh ICHABODs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd bet you're the only one who knows the Washburn nickname. Nice catch!

[missingnumber7]

The Summit League is on the rise and is currently 17th among 32 D-I conferences in the KenPom rankings. That equals the ranking at the end of the 2008-09 season when the Bison made their run. The SL was ranked 25th in 2009-10 and 19th last year. Since the low point in 2009-10, the Summit has moved ahead of the MAAC, Atlantic Sun, Big West, Big Sky, Ohio Valley, Sunbelt, and Southland. Just ahead of the Summit now, but within sight, are the Ivy League (16), MAC (15), and WAC (14).So with a solid finish to this OOC schedule within the next month and a good showing with bracketbusters, we are making a potential legitimate beef for, in a solid year, to have a second team make the tourney.

[Kermit]

So with a solid finish to this OOC schedule within the next month and a good showing with bracketbusters, we are making a potential legitimate beef for, in a solid year, to have a second team make the tourney.

No. We are a LONG way from being a two bid league. Even the MVC, a solid top 10 conference, has been a 1-bid league the past couple years.

[Ferd]

Just another view of message # 1:

Southern Utah 76 UC Davis 75
Southern Utah 95 Bryant 78

North Dakota State 73 San Francisco 65
North Dakota State 78 Louisiana-Lafayette 58
North Dakota State 70 Northern Arizona 58
North Dakota State 65 Wisconsin-Green Bay 61
North Dakota State 78 Fresno State 65

South Dakota State 82 Western Michigan 76
South Dakota State 79 Niagara 71
South Dakota State 77, Sam Houston State 60
South Dakota State 74 Mercer 71

Oral Roberts 80 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 44
Oral Roberts 71 Austin Peay 59
Oral Roberts 62 Southern Methodist 56
Oral Roberts 73 Florida International 65

Oakland 75 Grambling State 45
Oakland 76 Houston 74
Oakland 89 Utah Valley 83
Oakland 89 Tennessee 81

Missouri-Kansas City 64 Wofford 58
Missouri-Kansas City 93 Longwood 53

Indiana-Purdue-Indianapolis 74 Texas Southern 55

Western Illinois 65 North Dakota 62

[Twentysix]

USD has no division 1 wins?

[jack power]

USD has no division 1 wins?
Their 2 wins are against UNO and Tabor

[MN_BISON]

Their 2 wins are against UNO and Tabor

What in thee hell is Tabor? Sounds like a Canadian finishing school for those who are vertically challenged.:eeek:

[Ferd]

Tabor is a Mennonite religous college somewhere in Kansas. It is not DI. Uno is in transition and not DI, either.

[MN_BISON]

Tabor is a Mennonite religous college somewhere in Kansas. It is not DI. Uno is in transition and not DI, either.

Thanks for the info Ferd! Mennonite finishing school was my second guess, just in case anyone was wondering. On a side note, I wonder if any of my homeboys in Gretna or Altona know there's a Mennonite finshing school in KS? Those Canadian Mexicans might want to head south to further their education in the States if teh hockies don't come a callin'.
:eek:

[jack power]

What in thee hell is Tabor? Sounds like a Canadian finishing school for those who are vertically challenged.:eeek:
They're a NAIA school that the Yotes squeaked by

[NDSUstudent]

Oral Roberts 68
Missouri State 63

Great win for the Summit!

[tony]

Oral Roberts 68
Missouri State 63

Great win for the Summit!

Saw a little of that tonight on tv... not very good production values, everything had a distinct yellow hue.

[Tatanka]

Saw a little of that tonight on tv... not very good production values, everything had a distinct yellow hue.

What an intimidating envronment...

[KSBisonFan]

What in thee hell is Tabor? Sounds like a Canadian finishing school for those who are vertically challenged.:eeek:

It's in Hillsboro, KS and they are the Bluejays. There's your trivia for today. More importantly, the USD women beat Tabor 94-16. That about does it for worthless information for one day

[bisonfan08]

No. We are a LONG way from being a two bid league. Even the MVC, a solid top 10 conference, has been a 1-bid league the past couple years.

Yeah there's almost zero chance the Summit gets two bids, the only way that would happen is if Oakland or ORU run the table and finish the season with only 2 or 3 losses to get in the top 25 then lose in the conference championship game. Oakland with #15 Michigan, Valpo and Arizona and ORU with Oklahoma, #18 Gonzaga, #11 Xavier and Texas Tech still on the schedule could make the top 25 if they finish the season with 4 losses or less (we would prolly only make it with 2 losses or less due to SOS), however they still have to play a full Summit schedule and I hope we can at least split with them, SDSU, IUPUI and SUU can be pesky teams and don't forget they have to play each other so I don't see that happening. With ORU leaving the conference after this season it's simply win in Sioux Falls or go home for the next few years at least.

[KC Bison]

Ugly score
Wisconsin 77
UMKC 31 (Sounds Junior High girls team score).

[The Sports Block]

http://www.archive.org/details/OaklandsReggieHamitlonNov.29th2011

- Oakland guard Reggie Hamilton joined the Sports Block on Nov. 29th, 2011 to talk about his teams win at home vs. Tennessee for the second year in a row and the preview their season.

[NDSUstudent]

UMKC 78
North Dakota 75

IPFW 85
Valpo 76

[ndsubison1]

decent win for ipfw. glad the who lost

[JSUBison]

Watched the IUPUI/Louisville tonight. It was a close game until halftime. Most of IUPUI's points in the 1st half were 3's, so I knew that wasn't going to last. But it was interesting that IUPUI played their bench and young guys in the 1st half and had Young sitting.

[Hammersmith]

Watched the IUPUI/Louisville tonight. It was a close game until halftime. Most of IUPUI's points in the 1st half were 3's, so I knew that wasn't going to last. But it was interesting that IUPUI played their bench and young guys in the 1st half and had Young sitting.
Again? What's up with that? He in the doghouse or something?

[ndsubison1]

young fouled out

[TheBisonator]

South Dakota finally got an OOC DI win over Canisius, 67-55

[NDSUstudent]

USD 57
Morehead St(KY) 56

[NDSUstudent]

Western Kentucky 76
IUPUI 84

[NDSUstudent]

UMKC 74
Southeast Missouri St 69

[NDSUstudent]

Eastern Illinois 48
Western Illinois 64

[NDSUstudent]

Wow the Jackistanians are really pounding no-name U....It's 73-44 with 7:30 to play.

[NDSUstudent]

North Dakota 54
South Dakota State 92

[2002jack]

Contreversy in GF, as they take offense when our scrubs continued to play after the game was well in hand. I guess we were supposed to quit playing.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/223641/group/Sports/

[RowdyRabbit]

Contreversy in GF, as they take offense when our scrubs continued to play after the game was well in hand. I guess we were supposed to quit playing.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/223641/group/Sports/

Yep, the appropriate thing to do when up by 30-some with 40 seconds left is to run out the shot clock and turn the ball over. Or, better yet, hand the defender the ball allow him to take it to the house, to help his self-esteem.:rolleyes:

[BlueBisonRock]

Yep, the appropriate thing to do when up by 30-some with 40 seconds left is to run out the shot clock and turn the ball over. Or, better yet, hand the defender the ball allow him to take it to the house, to help his self-esteem.:rolleyes:

So you and 02 are telling us the Who went toe to toe and had another morale victory?

[DIBISON]

Wow, the Who lose by 40 points to a Summit League team. Good thing the Who are going to the Big Sky.

[Strommer10]

North Dakota 54
South Dakota State 92
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl:

[Tatanka]

Contreversy in GF, as they take offense when our scrubs continued to play after the game was well in hand. I guess we were supposed to quit playing.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/223641/group/Sports/

...and Nagy agreed with them. :facepalm:

[JSUBison]

...and Nagy agreed with them. :facepalm:

Of course, don't you remember the controversy last year when NDSU manhandled SDSU? I seem to recall a few SDSU posters or was it the coach that was upset that the Bison were still shooting the ball late in the game while up by a bunch. I think the issue was Tviedt? I''m sure that thread is here somewhere.

[HoopsBison]

Of course, don't you remember the controversy last year when NDSU manhandled SDSU? I seem to recall a few SDSU posters or was it the coach that was upset that the Bison were still shooting the ball late in the game while up by a bunch. I think the issue was Tviedt? I''m sure that thread is here somewhere.

I have always been in the boat if you don't like it then stop it.

[RowdyRabbit]

I have always been in the boat if you don't like it then stop it.

Agreed. JSU mentioned Tveidt doing that to us last year..I had forgetten about that, but it does ring a bell. I'm 100% confident I had the same reaction then....if we didn't like it, we should've stopped it.

[Nick-A]

Western Illinois- 64
Eastern Illinois- 48

I told you guys that loss against WIU wasn't going to look bad at the end of the season. Fans down there are starting to get excited about hoops too; 1,600+ in attendance and the best atmosphere they've had in years. And lol at SDSU-ND--that's just bad. The Summit League has quietly been one of the best mid-major conferences in the country this year.

By the way, who the heck are the Mayville State Comets?

[ndsubison1]

nick, the season is over?

[Nick-A]

Never said it was. But the loss looked bad then because that's usually the worst team in the league. Now they're proving they can play at a high level and will continue to do so in all likelihood. I'm not sure why that's so tough to understand...

[squarepeg]

Western Illinois- 64
Eastern Illinois- 48

I told you guys that loss against WIU wasn't going to look bad at the end of the season. Fans down there are starting to get excited about hoops too; 1,600+ in attendance and the best atmosphere they've had in years. And lol at SDSU-ND--that's just bad. The Summit League has quietly been one of the best mid-major conferences in the country this year.

By the way, who the heck are the Mayville State Comets?

I'd say the Summit is actually worse than last year. Oakland and Oral Roberts already have 7 losses between them with only 1 win over a terrible major team.

[DjKyRo]

Oral Roberts gets a monster break for their next game at #8 Xavier. Xavier's last game against Cincinnati erupted into a huge fight at the end and four of Xavier's players, including their top two scorers and assists leaders Tu Holloway and Mark Lyons. Xavier is 8-0 on the season. That'd be a crazy win for the Summit League and the Golden Eagles, but it's certainly by no means assured.

[squarepeg]

Oral Roberts gets a monster break for their next game at #8 Xavier. Xavier's last game against Cincinnati erupted into a huge fight at the end and four of Xavier's players, including their top two scorers and assists leaders Tu Holloway and Mark Lyons. Xavier is 8-0 on the season. That'd be a crazy win for the Summit League and the Golden Eagles, but it's certainly by no means assured.

Oral Roberts has no excuse not to win this thing. Xavier will be without 3 of their top 4, almost 50 points a game out.

[NDSUstudent]

ORU 58
Arkansas Little Rock 55

Sounds like ORU scored five points in the last three seconds of the game....Bell-Holter sank a three to win it with a second left.

[JSUBison]

Got this from the bunny board:

Jeff Sagarin Men's BB Conference Rankings
12 SUMMIT LEAGUE = 74.25
13 HORIZON = 73.00
14 MID-AMERICAN = 72.94
15 WESTERN ATHLETIC = 72.92
16 ATLANTIC SUN = 72.38
17 SUN BELT = 71.74
18 COLONIAL = 71.57
19 BIG SKY = 71.24
20 IVY LEAGUE = 71.13
21 BIG WEST = 71.06
22 METRO ATLANTIC = 69.94
23 SOUTHLAND = 69.30

[NDSUstudent]

Sportscenter highlight of ORU's crazy win....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pN7eiBItjyY

[bisonfan08]

Wow that's a crazy play, hell of a finish to a game.

[NDSUstudent]

Dartmouth 51
IPFW 56

[missingnumber7]

Wow that's a crazy play, hell of a finish to a game.I bet all 20 people in the stands enjoyed it.

[TheBisonator]

I bet all 20 people in the stands enjoyed it.

Say what you want about the crowd, I wish we had an arena like that.

[TheBisonator]

The Summit has 34 OOC wins versus DI schools so far. You know how many the SWAC (worst DI conference) has?? Five.

The Great West "Conference" has 11 of them, but Utah Valley has four of those.

The Summit had 38 total wins last year. I think we'll break that mark this year easily. The Summit has 32 more OOC DI games (incl. BracketBusters). I think we can get up to 50 this year.

[siouxdgj]

I wanted to start the annual list.

Southern Utah 76 UC Davis 75
North Dakota State 73 San Francisco 65
South Dakota State 82 Western Michigan 76
North Dakota State 78 Louisiana-Lafayette 58
Southern Utah 95 Bryant 78
North Dakota State 70 Northern Arizona 58
North Dakota State 65 Wisconsin-Green Bay 61
Oral Roberts 80 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 44
Oakland 75 Grambling State 45
Oral Roberts 71 Austin Peay 59
South Dakota State 79 Niagara 71
Oral Roberts 62 Southern Methodist 56
South Dakota State 77, Sam Houston State 60
Oakland 76 Houston 74
Oral Roberts 73 Florida International 65
South Dakota State 74 Mercer 71
Missouri-Kansas City 64 Wofford 58
Oakland 89 Utah Valley 83
Indiana-Purdue-Indianapolis 74 Texas Southern 55
Missouri-Kansas City 93 Longwood 53
Western Illinois 65 North Dakota 62
North Dakota State 78 Fresno State 65
Oakland 89 Tennessee 81
Oral Roberts 68 Missouri State 63
Indiana-Purdue-Fort Wayne 85 Valparaiso 76
Missouri-Kansas City 78 North Dakota 75
South Dakota 67 Canisius 55
South Dakota 57 Morehead State 56
Indiana-Purdue-Indianapolis 84 Western Kentucky 76
Missouri-Kansas City 74 Southeast Missouri State 69
Western Illinois 64 Eastern Illinois 48
South Dakota State 92 North Dakota 54
Oral Roberts 58 Arkansas-Little Rock 55
Indiana-Purdue-Fort Wayne 56 Dartmouth 51

Kudos for going to all the trouble to post this; it's much appreciated.

[siouxdgj]

Wow, the Who lose by 40 points to a Summit League team. Good thing the Who are going to the Big Sky.

In a return engagement at The Betty Thursday night in Grand Forks it was UND 89, South Dakota State 70. What a difference five days (and perhaps home cooking and the home court?) can do. It also helps when a team makes nearly 60 percent of its field goal attempts. Just another illustration of how crazy basketball can be at times. Good luck to the Bison football team Saturday against Georgia Southern.

[Civil06]

In a return engagement at The Betty Thursday night in Grand Forks it was UND 89, South Dakota State 70. What a difference five days (and perhaps home cooking and the home court?) can do. It also helps when a team makes nearly 60 percent of its field goal attempts. Just another illustration of how crazy basketball can be at times. Good luck to the Bison football team Saturday against Georgia Southern.

Yeah, I was gonna let a Sioux fan bring that game up rather than post about it. That's a good win.

Thanks for the good luck on the football game!

[WYOBISONMAN]

In a return engagement at The Betty Thursday night in Grand Forks it was UND 89, South Dakota State 70. What a difference five days (and perhaps home cooking and the home court?) can do. It also helps when a team makes nearly 60 percent of its field goal attempts. Just another illustration of how crazy basketball can be at times. Good luck to the Bison football team Saturday against Georgia Southern.

Home court is huge in BB................

[squarepeg]

The Summit has 34 OOC wins versus DI schools so far. You know how many the SWAC (worst DI conference) has?? Five.

The Great West "Conference" has 11 of them, but Utah Valley has four of those.

The Summit had 38 total wins last year. I think we'll break that mark this year easily. The Summit has 32 more OOC DI games (incl. BracketBusters). I think we can get up to 50 this year.

The SWAC has played half as many total games but still twice as many high major teams.

[NDSUstudent]

The SWAC should drop down to DII.....it's like a conference full of Centenary's.

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The SWAC should drop down to DII.....it's like a conference full of Centenary's.

It's hard to say with their insane scheduling. Bisonator won't be happy though, our D1 wins list would shrink by 10%.

[NDSUstudent]

It's hard to say with their insane scheduling. Bisonator won't be happy though, our D1 wins list would shrink by 10%.

They have to schedule money games to make their athletic budgets...kind of sad really...

[squarepeg]

They have to schedule money games to make their athletic budgets...kind of sad really...

Very sad. SWAC is 0-30 in money games, Summit is 1-16. Not much difference there, but the mental aspect of getting beat night after night has to take a real toll on them.

[squarepeg]

In a return engagement at The Betty Thursday night in Grand Forks it was UND 89, South Dakota State 70. What a difference five days (and perhaps home cooking and the home court?) can do. It also helps when a team makes nearly 60 percent of its field goal attempts. Just another illustration of how crazy basketball can be at times. Good luck to the Bison football team Saturday against Georgia Southern.

This game could start another rivalry for when they eventually join the Summit.

[HandoEX]

Home court is huge in BB................
We better be ready next month!

[NDSUstudent]

Canisius 67
UMKC 72

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Canisius 67
UMKC 72

Canisius is 1-8 against mostly bad teams. I suggest dumping the D1 win list and replace it with D1 wins over teams with winning records.

[NDSUstudent]

Canisius is 1-8 against mostly bad teams. I suggest dumping the D1 win list and replace it with D1 wins over teams with winning records.

It was UMKC though...they are pretty bad so I gotta give it to them.

[NDSUstudent]

Oakland 82
Valpo 80

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Oakland 82
Valpo 80

Valpo might be a tournament team with Butler down.

[NDSUstudent]

At the half....

ORU 36
#9 Xavier 19

Of course Xavier is without three of their top 4 leading scorers...

[NDSUstudent]

ORU 64
Xavier 42 FINAL

[NDSUstudent]

IPFW 82
UT Martin 76

[NDSUstudent]

The Summit is kicking ass today....

SDSU 70
Washington 52 with 9 minutes left to play...

[NDSUstudent]

SDSU 92
Washington 73 FINAL

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IPFW 82
UT Martin 76

UT-Martin is beyond terrible.

[mango]

USD lost to Canisius 90-80 in OT

[squarepeg]

SDSU 92
Washington 73 FINAL

This is a good win for SDSU. They shot out of their mind from deep and didn't turn it over.

[NDSUstudent]

UT-Martin is beyond terrible.

Road win for what is probably not one of the five best teams in the Summit...I'll take it.

Too bad USD had to blow what would have been a good RPI building day for the Summit.

[squarepeg]

Road win for what is probably not one of the five best teams in the Summit...I'll take it.

Too bad USD had to blow what would have been a good RPI building day for the Summit.

UT-Martin is 1-10 against D1 teams. Might as well throw Mayville on the win list.

USD lost to 1-8 Canisius.

[NDSUstudent]

UT-Martin is 1-10 against D1 teams. Might as well throw Mayville on the win list.

A DI win is a win. This league is historically not good on the road in non-conference, even against terrible teams.

I want the Summit to be top 15 in RPI, not losing games like this helps. Too bad USD couldn't beat a terrible team at home though.

[squarepeg]

A DI win is a win. This league is historically not good on the road in non-conference, even against terrible teams.

I want the Summit to be top 15 in RPI, not losing games like this helps. Too bad USD couldn't beat a terrible team at home though.

If all you care about is RPI maybe a weekly RPI watch would be better? Listing D1 wins all in a row doesn't tell me much without some context.

[TheBisonator]

If all you care about is RPI maybe a weekly RPI watch would be better? Listing D1 wins all in a row doesn't tell me much without some context.

Just stay out of my thread if you're gonna bitch about it.

[NDSUstudent]

Ball State 57
IUPUI 66

[IndyBison]

Ball State 57
IUPUI 66
Nice win. I believe this game was Conseco Fieldhouse. Ball State beat Butler who beat a pretty good Purdue team over the weekend. This is a nice win for the Summit.

[NDSUstudent]

Agreed...Ball State should do pretty good in the MAC. IUPUI hosts Valpo on Friday so that will give them another shot at solid win.

[bisonfan08]

SDSU 92
Washington 73 FINAL

Anyone else a little confused by this SDSU team. They beat the Whioux by 38, then lose to them by 19, then beat Washington by 19. I haven't seen them play yet this year are they just that streaky of a team or was the loss to the Whioux as big a fluke as our exhibition loss to MSU?

[BasketballGuy]

I wouldn't say the loss was that big of a fluke MSUM is 9-0 and is not a bad team at all. As far as SDSU Wolters is a top 30 PG in college basketball this season and they seem to be streaky but also dangerous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYRK61RfHo

[Keeper]

Sorry if this was posted somewhere else already. Great national recognition of what TSL is doing this year.


The Summit League continued its strong movement from last week and moved up four spots in this week’s rankings, largely due to two major wins on Sunday. South Dakota State, which sits on top of the Summit League at 10-4, dominated Washington 92-73.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/42513/big-ten-no-1-summit-league-makes-leap

We certainly welcome everyone over to our site as well to discuss what will certainly be an exciting conference season - http://www.SummitZoo.com

[ndsubison1]

I wouldn't say the loss was that big of a fluke MSUM is 9-0 and is not a bad team at all. As far as SDSU Wolters is a top 30 PG in college basketball this season and they seem to be streaky but also dangerous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYRK61RfHo

i would. we are clearly better than moorhead and just came out flat that night. plus, moorhead could not miss

[BasketballGuy]

How are they clearly better? I think they matched up fine. And yeah they couldn't miss but they are shooting 46% from the 3 on the year after 9 games so I wouldn't call it a fluke. Is NDSU more athletic? No doubt but I think they MSUM plays as a team just as well and just as smart. If they played 10 games I wouldn't be surprised if MSUM won 5. Anyway who cares hope they do good tonight against the Gophers.

[NDSUstudent]

If NDSU plays MSUM in a real game....The Bison win by 15-20 points.

[Kermit]

How are they clearly better? I think they matched up fine. And yeah they couldn't miss but they are shooting 46% from the 3 on the year after 9 games so I wouldn't call it a fluke. Is NDSU more athletic? No doubt but I think they MSUM plays as a team just as well and just as smart. If they played 10 games I wouldn't be surprised if MSUM won 5. Anyway who cares hope they do good tonight against the Gophers.

I watch a lot of MSU-M games. I am really impressed with what Chad Walthall has done with their program. They look like a legitimate title contender in the NSIC--but no way do they win 5/10 from the Bison. They won an overtime game when they absolutely shot the lights out and the Bison had a poor effort. I don't think the exhibition game was a fluke, but the teams are by no means equal. Other than Novak, MSU-M is not close to the Bison on the defensive end. I would love to see the Dragons win their conference. Good luck to them!

[BasketballGuy]

You make good points. Like I said before not surprised MSUM shot well that's what they do. Team is almost shooting 50 percent from 3 on the year so far. 5 games is probably a stretch but they would be competitive games. You mentioned Novak but forgot Jake Lindfors MSUM's D1 transfer from U of Albany had 21 and 12 against the bison. PG D.J Hamilton gave NDSU's guards a lot of trouble. Once again no doubt NDSU is a better team I just don't think it's that big of a fluke as people make it out to be.

[Kermit]

You make good points. Like I said before not surprised MSUM shot well that's what they do. Team is almost shooting 50 percent from 3 on the year so far. 5 games is probably a stretch but they would be competitive games. You mentioned Novak but forgot Jake Lindfors MSUM's D1 transfer from U of Albany had 21 and 12 against the bison. PG D.J Hamilton gave NDSU's guards a lot of trouble. Once again no doubt NDSU is a better team I just don't think it's that big of a fluke as people make it out to be.

MSUM shoots well, but the Bison are holding their opponents to 37% shooting on the season. They had a very subpar defensive effort against the Dragons. I mentioned Novak (and not Lindfors) as a good defensive player. Lindfors is a highly skilled offensive player, but he and the Dragons team, are not at NDSU's level defensively. While I don't think the exhibition win over NDSU was a complete fluke, I also don't think they could repeat it 50% of the time. Again, I like the Dragons and wish them well. They are a very good D-II team.

[NDSUstudent]

Texas Tech 56
ORU 72

[NDSUstudent]

North Dakota 46
Western Illinois 68

[DjKyRo]

North Dakota 46
Western Illinois 68

It's incredible how ridiculously different UND plays on the road vs. at home.

[NDSUstudent]

Ucd 51
suu 62

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Ucd 51
suu 62


UCD is 0-11 :facepalm:

SUU is 3-6 with 2 of those wins against....UCD :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[NDSUstudent]

UCD is 0-11 :facepalm:

SUU is 3-6 with 2 of those wins against....UCD :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

I know...I didn't even want to post that but hey at least SUU is winning a few games and not being a complete RPI anchor. Thankfully this year is it and the league will be done with them, UND can enjoy the trips to Cedar City next year...

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I know...I didn't even want to post that but hey at least SUU is winning a few games and not being a complete RPI anchor. Thankfully this year is it and the league will be done with them, UND can enjoy the trips to Cedar City next year...

Would you rather have SUU and Oral Roberts or USD and UNO?

[NDSUstudent]

Would you rather have SUU and Oral Roberts or USD and UNO?

I'll say USD/UNO, I hate having SUU in the league that much. At least USD and UNO bring in some regional flavor and from a selfish standpoint ORU leaving should make the league easier to win.

I will miss ORU though, always great to have the Suttons in the BSA and they are solid from an RPI perspective.

[Tatanka]

It's incredible how ridiculously different UND plays on the road vs. at home.

It'll only get worse. They're going to poach many a team that is tired after flying cross-country into Fargo then bussing up to el Forko for one game.

[TheBisonator]

It'll only get worse. They're going to poach many a team that is tired after flying cross-country into Fargo then bussing up to el Forko for one game.

They'll be 13-15 every year. (13-0 at home, 0-15 on the road). :D

[NDSUstudent]

Valpo 88
IUPUI 97

IUPUI shot 48 free throws! Jay Harris had 14 points for Valpo.

[TheBisonator]

The Summit is at 44 OOC DI wins now. Nice.

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The Summit is at 44 OOC DI wins now. Nice.

That alone tells us nothing. How about against teams with winning records? I can find 10 wins, with 3 of those against 6-5 Valpo and 1 against depleted Xavier. The best wins are against 6-3 Ball State and 6-5 Washington.

[herdmember]

They'll be 13-15 every year. (13-0 at home, 0-15 on the road). :D

Let's hope not this year!

[NDSUstudent]

Can't believe I'm saying this but I think ORU is starting to open the door for the possibility of the Summit getting an at-large if say ORU loses in the title game. I just don't see them losing many more games, they'll be getting a marquee game for Bracketbusters which will be a great showcase for them and the Summit.

I can't wait for that game at the BSA, ORU might be 21-4 and would be without a doubt the best team to set foot in the BSA.

[TheBisonator]

Can't believe I'm saying this but I think ORU is starting to open the door for the possibility of the Summit getting an at-large if say ORU loses in the title game. I just don't see them losing many more games, they'll be getting a marquee game for Bracketbusters which will be a great showcase for them and the Summit.

I can't wait for that game at the BSA, ORU might be 21-4 and would be without a doubt the best team to set foot in the BSA.

ORU is currently a top-50 RPI team for the most part (56 in Pomeroy, 44 in Sagarin, 47 in RealTime). Imagine how much of a boost it would be for NDSU to beat a top-50 RPI team, not to mention another high RPI team at home in BracketBusters. Hope we get the BSA packed for both games!!

[NDSUstudent]

This is a huge week for us and bracketbusters, two wins would really help us land a TV game. Right now it looks like we will play Drake, Indiana State, Buffalo, Western Michigan or Valpo but if we win out(next four games) Nevada could be a possibility.