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DjKyRo
09-19-2011, 04:07 PM
1. Georgia Southern
2. Northern Iowa
3. App. State
4. Montana State
5. William & Mary
6. Delaware
7. Richmond
8. Wofford
9. Montana
10. James Madison
11. New Hampshire
12. North Dakota State
13. Southern Illinois
14. Chattanooga
15. Jacksonville State
16. Lehigh
17. Stephen F. Austin
18. McNeese State
19. UMass
20. South Dakota
21. North Dakota
22. Eastern Washington
23. Liberty
24. Youngstown State
25. South Carolina State

Bison15
09-19-2011, 04:13 PM
1. Georgia Southern
2. Northern Iowa
3. App. State
4. Montana State
5. William & Mary
6. Delaware
7. Richmond
8. Wofford
9. Montana
10. James Madison
11. New Hampshire
12. North Dakota State
13. Southern Illinois
14. Chattanooga
15. Jacksonville State
16. Lehigh
17. Stephen F. Austin
18. McNeese State
19. UMass
20. South Dakota
21. North Dakota
22. Eastern Washington
23. Liberty
24. Youngstown State
25. South Carolina State

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

DjKyRo
09-19-2011, 04:13 PM
Some really big matchups in the FCS world this weekend that should shake up the rankings substantially.

Old Dominion @ Delaware
Liberty @ Lehigh
UNH @ Richmond
Chattanooga @ App. State
James Madison @ William & Mary
Montana State @ Eastern Washington

All I know after looking at the rankings for this week is that NDSU should be in the top 3 if we beat Minnesota this weekend. Top 10 even if we lose. UND's inclusion and Indiana State being left out after embarrassing an FBS school is a total joke.

GradBison
09-19-2011, 04:15 PM
Wow... that's a horrendous poll. Bison drop from #6 to #12 because of the bye-week. and UND gets in at #21 because they went toe-to-toe with Fresno State? :facepalm:

Tatanka
09-19-2011, 04:16 PM
Some really big matchups in the FCS world this weekend that should shake up the rankings substantially.

Old Dominion @ Delaware
Liberty @ Lehigh
UNH @ Richmond
Chattanooga @ App. State
James Madison @ William & Mary
Montana State @ Eastern Washington

All I know after looking at the rankings for this week is that NDSU should be in the top 3 if we beat Minnesota this weekend. Top 10 even if we lose. UND's inclusion and Indiana State being left out after embarrassing an FBS school is a total joke.

TRUTH^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

DjKyRo
09-19-2011, 04:21 PM
Also, anyone else notice we fell from 6 to 12? Huh?

Bison"FANatic"
09-19-2011, 04:22 PM
Things that make you go hmmmmm. Good thing we get to decide it on the field.

JSUBison
09-19-2011, 04:24 PM
Also, anyone else notice we fell from 6 to 12? Huh?

Well if the trend in these rankings continue, if we go toe to toe with Minnesota, we will probably be ranked #1.

mnriverbison
09-19-2011, 04:36 PM
Good thing we get to decide it on the field.

This a million times over.

cadillac
09-19-2011, 04:44 PM
According to http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full/fcscoachespoll we are still #6

HandoEX
09-19-2011, 04:45 PM
How is William & Mary ranked that high? Ridiculous!!!

Bison03
09-19-2011, 05:03 PM
Ok, so which poll us real? The one the Forum cited or the one CBS sports posted?

MNLonghorn10
09-19-2011, 05:04 PM
wow, its amazing villanova and ewu are a combined 0-6

Twentysix
09-19-2011, 05:05 PM
The CBS poll has not been updated yet. EWU is #10 and has a first place vote on that poll.

W&M is about a 15-20 team atm. Poll is a joke.

Hambone
09-19-2011, 05:12 PM
My thoughts are that someone (maybe a couple people) in the coaches poll made a mistake and put UND rather than NDSU on their poll. That's the only logical explanation as to why SU would fall and UND would get that many votes after losing. So, I wouldn't quite worry about it, as it will likely straighten out after next week.

Minneapolis Jack
09-19-2011, 05:12 PM
With NDSU dropping and UND appearing in the poll, I would bet that some voters confused the 2 schools.

SUBISON247
09-19-2011, 05:14 PM
How is EWU even ranked at 0-3 plus in the CBS poll they are over Montana the team that beat them. I wonder who votes in these things?

Twentysix
09-19-2011, 05:15 PM
AGS Top 25 September 19, 2011


1 Georgia Southern Eagles 2699 75
2 Northern Iowa Panthers 2588 20
3 Montana State Bobcats 2473 3
4 Appalachian State Mountaineers 2299 0
5 North Dakota State Bison 2219 2
6 Richmond Spiders 2207 8
7 Wofford Terriers 2042
8 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 1983 2
9 William & Mary Tribe 1881 0
10 Montana Grizzlies 1853 0
11 New Hampshire Wildcats 1589 0
12 Chattanooga Mocs 1546 0
13 James Madison Dukes 1472 0
14 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 1174 0
15 Southern Illinois Salukis 1126 0
16 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 839 0
17 Sam Houston State Bearkats 641 0
18 South Dakota Coyotes 636 0
19 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 629 0
20 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 590 0
21 Liberty Flames 578 0
22 Eastern Washington Eagles 391 0
23 South Carolina State Bulldogs 366 0
24 McNeese State Cowboys 331 0
25 Indiana State Sycamores 283 0


The Most Significant Win:
Indiana State Sycamores

The Most Significant Loss:
Eastern Washington Eagles


Others recieving votes:

26 Towson Tigers 247 0
27 Old Dominion Monarchs 233 0
28 Maine Black Bears 214 0
29 Cal Poly Mustangs 155 0
30 Murray State Racers 154 0
31 Youngstown State Penguins 145 0
32 Holy Cross Crusaders 141 0
33 Central Arkansas Bears 106 0
34 Weber State Wildcats 88 0
35 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 61 0
36 Portland State Vikings 56 0
37 Sacramento State Hornets 45 0
38 Jackson State Tigers 43 0
39 Delaware State Hornets 40 0
40 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 37 0


Thanks AGS Poll Voters for getting out the vote. Keep up the good work.

A much more "Reliable" poll.

Twentysix
09-19-2011, 05:16 PM
Some really big matchups in the FCS world this weekend that should shake up the rankings substantially.

Old Dominion @ Delaware
Liberty @ Lehigh
UNH @ Richmond
Chattanooga @ App. State
James Madison @ William & Mary
Montana State @ Eastern Washington

All I know after looking at the rankings for this week is that NDSU should be in the top 3 if we beat Minnesota this weekend. Top 10 even if we lose. UND's inclusion and Indiana State being left out after embarrassing an FBS school is a total joke.

You missed one, Black hills state @ UND. That game will probably decide who is #1 in the FCS.

344Johnson
09-19-2011, 05:26 PM
I'm not going to worry too much yet about rankings. Although like Hambone said, people had to get NDSU and UND confuzzled. Thats getting so old that we are getting confused with one another.

RowdyRabbit
09-19-2011, 05:37 PM
I said it a couple weeks ago on the SDSU board, and I'll say it again here. Some of the crap rankings/teams I've seen on the FCS polls make me really...I mean REALLY question the validity or value of the rankings.

Twentysix
09-19-2011, 05:40 PM
Well the rankings help generate attendance hype.

The ags poll looks alot better than the coaches poll..

a TSN voter gave W&M a first place vote.... they needed to win the turnover battle to beat a team by a FG.

A division II team....that has only had a team for 2 years previous to this.

Bison bison
09-19-2011, 05:41 PM
I'm not going to worry too much yet about rankings. Although like Hambone said, people had to get NDSU and UND confuzzled. Thats getting so old that we are getting confused with one another.

I know of a solution, so mind blowing, that I dare not mention it.

It has to with Hillsboro and seating for 300,000.

HerdBot
09-19-2011, 05:43 PM
Seriously do these coaches realize there are 4 teams in the Dakotas?
I think they get them confused, especially since we were both part of the Great West and how South Dakota was going to the Big Sky, but then the Valley.

How can South Dakota State get more votes then Cal Poly after losing to Cal Poly 48-14?

How can NDSU can drop 6 spots by having a bye week?

How an UND can jump from unranked to #21 after losing to Fresno State and is now 1-2.

USD beat Eastern Washington (0-3) by 2 scores and are ranked lower than them and only 1 spot higher than UND?

Bison bison
09-19-2011, 05:52 PM
the poll is great.

it proves that either

a) an FCS coach can't fill out a simple form

or

b) they don't know squat about the subdivision as a whole

Twentysix
09-19-2011, 05:57 PM
the poll is great.

it proves that either

a) an FCS coach can't fill out a simple form

or

b) they don't know squat about the subdivision as a whole

Their are like 40 teams they would have to keep up on... sounds tough.

WYOBISONMAN
09-19-2011, 06:00 PM
My thoughts are that someone (maybe a couple people) in the coaches poll made a mistake and put UND rather than NDSU on their poll. That's the only logical explanation as to why SU would fall and UND would get that many votes after losing. So, I wouldn't quite worry about it, as it will likely straighten out after next week.

It is hard to believe that people voting in the poll could be so uninformed, but, that is a likely possiblity given the results.

Bison03
09-19-2011, 06:00 PM
Who votes in the AGS poll? It seems more accurate. NDSU at 5 and UND not in the top 40 even. Seriously, how do we not play and drop and UND loses and moves into the poll?! Their fans will pump their cheasts after seeing this poll but have little reason to being a 1-2 team. I'm not saying their is a conspiracy theory or anything but how can you not think some confused voters saw a North Dakota team playing an FBS team and assumed it was us. I will give credit where credit is due, even if it is UND but this makes me sick. Indiana st won against an FBS team and is not in the poll, UND loses and is in. Total BS. Thank god there is no bcs in FCS football

DjKyRo
09-19-2011, 06:09 PM
Who votes in the AGS poll? It seems more accurate. NDSU at 5 and UND not in the top 40 even. Seriously, how do we not play and drop and UND loses and moves into the poll?! Their fans will pump their cheasts after seeing this poll but have little reason to being a 1-2 team. I'm not saying their is a conspiracy theory or anything but how can you not think some confused voters saw a North Dakota team playing an FBS team and assumed it was us. I will give credit where credit is due, even if it is UND but this makes me sick. Indiana st won against an FBS team and is not in the poll, UND loses and is in. Total BS. Thank god there is no bcs in FCS football

The AGS poll is an aggregate of 110 voters on AGS.com. Anyone can register to vote as long as you've been on the site for a year and have either 200 or 100 posts, can't recall which.

Bison bison
09-19-2011, 06:13 PM
AGS is the best. It is fans who care enough to follow the sport nationwide AND to fill out a poll.

The coaches poll is filled out by grad assistants.

HerdBot
09-19-2011, 06:19 PM
Who votes in the AGS poll? It seems more accurate. NDSU at 5 and UND not in the top 40 even. Seriously, how do we not play and drop and UND loses and moves into the poll?! Their fans will pump their cheasts after seeing this poll but have little reason to being a 1-2 team. I'm not saying their is a conspiracy theory or anything but how can you not think some confused voters saw a North Dakota team playing an FBS team and assumed it was us. I will give credit where credit is due, even if it is UND but this makes me sick. Indiana st won against an FBS team and is not in the poll, UND loses and is in. Total BS. Thank god there is no bcs in FCS football

That sucks because we would have beaten Fresno by 2 scores. THis makes us look bad.

aces1180
09-19-2011, 06:19 PM
AGS is the best. It is fans who care enough to follow the sport nationwide AND to fill out a poll.

The coaches poll is filled out by sports information directors.

Fixed it for you...

ndsubison1
09-19-2011, 06:28 PM
According to http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full/fcscoachespoll we are still #6

http://www.live5news.com/story/15497066/sc-state-down-to-25-in-fcs-coaches-poll

i dont understand how we drop that low with a bye week. i could understand 2 or maybe 3 slots but not 6

HerdBot
09-19-2011, 06:32 PM
http://www.live5news.com/story/15497066/sc-state-down-to-25-in-fcs-coaches-poll

i dont understand how we drop that low with a bye week. i could understand 2 or maybe 3 slots but not 6

It's because whoever voted got NDSU, UND, USD, and SDSU confused. How did SDSU get more votes then Poly after getting destroyed by them? How did NDSU drop a whopping 6 spots by being idle but Montana State stays the same by beating Minot State? How is USD not ranked higher than Eastern Washington (0-3) and how can UND be one spot behind USD with a close win over a non scholarship team and 2 FBS losses?

ThunderDan
09-19-2011, 06:40 PM
Everyone, stop getting all butt hurt about a poll 3 weeks into the season. Yes, people confused the schools from the Dakotas, but seriously, its 3 weeks into the season! If we take care of business in the MVFC there will be no doubt as to where we will be in the polls at the end of the year when it actually matters.
Plus, maybe this will give the players some motivation...the fact that we are being disrespected might put some fire in their ass for next week and the rest of the year.

coldspot
09-19-2011, 06:42 PM
It's because whoever voted got NDSU, UND, USD, and SDSU confused. How did SDSU get more votes then Poly after getting destroyed by them? How did NDSU drop a whopping 6 spots by being idle but Montana State stays the same by beating Minot State? How is USD not ranked higher than Eastern Washington (0-3) and how can UND be one spot behind USD with a close win over a non scholarship team and 2 FBS losses?

there's obviously some confusion with who is who, something needs to be done to do away with the confusion. I propose UND changes it's name to Grand Forks County Community College of South Winnipeg (GFCCCSW). now voters on the east coast wont be confused between the two north dakota schools, they'll be able to identify the shitty one by its unnecessarily long acronym.

ndsubison1
09-19-2011, 06:50 PM
Everyone, stop getting all butt hurt about a poll 3 weeks into the season. Yes, people confused the schools from the Dakotas, but seriously, its 3 weeks into the season! If we take care of business in the MVFC there will be no doubt as to where we will be in the polls at the end of the year when it actually matters.
Plus, maybe this will give the players some motivation...the fact that we are being disrespected might put some fire in their ass for next week and the rest of the year.

as slick would say "take a chill pill" thunderdan

ThunderDan
09-19-2011, 06:59 PM
as slick would say "take a chill pill" thunderdan

You mad bro?

Bison bison
09-19-2011, 07:02 PM
I'm not.

It's fun watching the three sioux football fans doing that gay* group hugging/jumping thing thinking they have arrived.


*Not gay as in homosexual. gay as in stupid, weird, self-deprecating.

Spiker
09-19-2011, 07:06 PM
It sure has stirred things up in Fargo now that UND is ranked in a poll. You guys are wondering how UND is ranked with what their schedule is so far. You do realize how demanding NDSU's schedule has been so far don't you. So far NDSU has beaten 2 doormats from FCS last year. You have beaten a non scholarship team and St. Franny. Did either of those teams even win a game last year? Oh yeah, you beat " bye" to. You guys sure worry a lot about UND. NDSU fans are sure obsessed about UND. Siouxville (I mean Bisonville) sure has a lot of topics and conversations about UND. Gotta love it. I see where your volleyball team bounced back and won a couple of matches this weekend. Congratulations.

NDSUstudent
09-19-2011, 07:15 PM
Lafayette and St Francis beat FCS teams last week, something UND has done how many times since moving up? Four or five times?

Oh and Lafayette's football budget is $4.2 million, that number doesn't seem to jive with being non-scholarship.

TransAmBison
09-19-2011, 07:15 PM
It sure has stirred things up in Fargo now that UND is ranked in a poll. You guys are wondering how UND is ranked with what their schedule is so far. You do realize how demanding NDSU's schedule has been so far don't you. So far NDSU has beaten 2 doormats from FCS last year. You have beaten a non scholarship team and St. Franny. Did either of those teams even win a game last year? Oh yeah, you beat " bye" to. You guys sure worry a lot about UND. NDSU fans are sure obsessed about UND. Siouxville (I mean Bisonville) sure has a lot of topics and conversations about UND. Gotta love it. I see where your volleyball team bounced back and won a couple of matches this weekend. Congratulations.
Thanks for your continued interest in Bison athletics.

Jay
09-19-2011, 07:18 PM
I'm not.

It's fun watching the three sioux football fans doing that gay* group hugging/jumping thing thinking they have arrived.


*Not gay as in homosexual. gay as in stupid, weird, self-deprecating.

Ghey.............

HerdBot
09-19-2011, 07:19 PM
It sure has stirred things up in Fargo now that UND is ranked in a poll. You guys are wondering how UND is ranked with what their schedule is so far. You do realize how demanding NDSU's schedule has been so far don't you. So far NDSU has beaten 2 doormats from FCS last year. You have beaten a non scholarship team and St. Franny. Did either of those teams even win a game last year? Oh yeah, you beat " bye" to. You guys sure worry a lot about UND. NDSU fans are sure obsessed about UND. Siouxville (I mean Bisonville) sure has a lot of topics and conversations about UND. Gotta love it. I see where your volleyball team bounced back and won a couple of matches this weekend. Congratulations.

Cal Poly should be MORE pissed. They destroyed SDSU by 40 points and received less voted than SDSU. You still disagree? ?

ndsubison1
09-19-2011, 07:21 PM
It sure has stirred things up in Fargo now that UND is ranked in a poll. You guys are wondering how UND is ranked with what their schedule is so far. You do realize how demanding NDSU's schedule has been so far don't you. So far NDSU has beaten 2 doormats from FCS last year. You have beaten a non scholarship team and St. Franny. Did either of those teams even win a game last year? Oh yeah, you beat " bye" to. You guys sure worry a lot about UND. NDSU fans are sure obsessed about UND. Siouxville (I mean Bisonville) sure has a lot of topics and conversations about UND. Gotta love it. I see where your volleyball team bounced back and won a couple of matches this weekend. Congratulations.

cool story bro. at least ndsu has looked impressive in their wins. und beat a non-scholly team. both st francis and lafayette are scholarship teams, sure theyre doormats but whatever. congrats on your moral victories and amazing schedule

bisonsupporter
09-19-2011, 07:21 PM
Which coaches poll did the Forum use? I just pulled this off of CBS Sports.
FCS Coaches Poll
No. School Record Points Prev
1 Georgia Southern (23) 2-0 695 2
2 Northern Iowa (4) 1-1 631 3
3 Appalachian State 2-1 621 3
4 Montana State 2-1 588 6
5 William & Mary 2-1 582 5
6 North Dakota State 2-0 532 8
7 Delaware 2-1 510 7
8 Wofford 1-1 486 9
9 Richmond 3-0 482 11
10 Eastern Washington (1) 0-3 457 1
11 Montana 2-1 398 13
12 New Hampshire 1-1 353 16
13 Stephen F. Austin 1-2 272 12
14 James Madison 2-1 269 17
15 Southern Illinois 1-1 268 15
16 Jacksonville State 2-1 243 10
17 Chattanooga 2-1 221 25
18 Central Arkansas 1-2 207 20
19 Lehigh 2-1 200 14
20 Liberty 1-2 181 21
21 South Carolina State 1-2 160 23
22 McNeese State 1-1 120 22
23 South Dakota 2-1 96 0
24 Sacramento State 1-2 92 18
25 Massachusetts 2-0 68 26
Others Receiving Votes: Pennsylvania(0-1) 41; Murray State(2-1) 29; Youngstown State(2-1) 29; Eastern Kentucky(1-2) 28; Southern Utah(2-1) 22; Villanova(0-3) 22; Eastern Illinois(1-2) 18; Indiana State(2-1) 18; Bethune-Cookman(1-1) 18; Sam Houston State(2-0) 14; Jackson State(3-0) 14; Western Illinois(1-2) 9; Harvard(0-1) 9; Coastal Carolina(2-1) 9; Illinois State(1-2) 7; Butler(2-1) 6; Towson(2-0) 6; UC Davis(1-2) 6; Dayton(2-1) 5; South Dakota State(1-2) 5; Cal Poly(1-2) 4; Weber State(1-2) 2; Hampton(2-1) 2; Jacksonville (Fl)(1-2) 2; Furman(1-1) 1; Central Connecticut State(2-1) 1
Updated: (09/19/2011) at 02:15 AM EST

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full/fcscoachespoll

MN_BISON
09-19-2011, 07:23 PM
It sure has stirred things up in Fargo now that UND is ranked in a poll. You guys are wondering how UND is ranked with what their schedule is so far. You do realize how demanding NDSU's schedule has been so far don't you. So far NDSU has beaten 2 doormats from FCS last year. You have beaten a non scholarship team and St. Franny. Did either of those teams even win a game last year? Oh yeah, you beat " bye" to. You guys sure worry a lot about UND. NDSU fans are sure obsessed about UND. Siouxville (I mean Bisonville) sure has a lot of topics and conversations about UND. Gotta love it. I see where your volleyball team bounced back and won a couple of matches this weekend. Congratulations.

You're an idiot. If one comes to another teams board to talk smack, at least try to make it look like you know what you're talking about. Really, do some homework or leave the trash talk to those who can pull it off. It really makes you look, well for lack of a better word......stupid.

ndsubison1
09-19-2011, 07:23 PM
that poll is from last week bisonsupporter but has updated records

bisonsupporter
09-19-2011, 07:26 PM
that poll is from last week bisonsupporter but has updated records

OK...i just looked at the update Date and not the time..

TransAmBison
09-19-2011, 07:30 PM
You've got to think one or two more losses and UND will be in the top 10.

Tatanka
09-19-2011, 07:33 PM
You've got to think one or two more losses and UND will be in the top 10.

Perhaps this poll is only taking into account moral victories.

CAS4127
09-19-2011, 07:35 PM
Perhaps this poll is only taking into account moral victories.

No, they would be ranks #1 easily then!! Must be a combo platter of some sort!!

TransAmBison
09-19-2011, 07:35 PM
Perhaps this poll is only taking into account moral victories.
In that poll they are #1.

ndsubison1
09-19-2011, 07:49 PM
You've got to think one or two more losses and UND will be in the top 10.

:rofl: ten char

DePereBisonFan
09-19-2011, 07:51 PM
Guys, I got to admit I was pretty impressed that UND almost beat Fresno State. :hide:

However, that doesn't excuse voters from mixing them up with NDSU.

I also think Georgia Southern should be docked points for being cowardly. Seriously.

SUBISON247
09-19-2011, 08:04 PM
I love that the local media can cover this.


Bison, Sioux both ranked among FCS Top 25
http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/334430/

Twentysix
09-19-2011, 08:12 PM
I love that the local media can cover this.


Bison, Sioux both ranked among FCS Top 25
http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/334430/

LMFAO!!!!! :facepalm:

devin45k
09-19-2011, 08:56 PM
It's a slap in the nards but I will be happy to upset the voters and all the FCS, NDSU haters.

80ALUM
09-19-2011, 09:27 PM
It sure has stirred things up in Fargo now that UND is ranked in a poll. You guys are wondering how UND is ranked with what their schedule is so far. You do realize how demanding NDSU's schedule has been so far don't you. So far NDSU has beaten 2 doormats from FCS last year. You have beaten a non scholarship team and St. Franny. Did either of those teams even win a game last year? Oh yeah, you beat " bye" to. You guys sure worry a lot about UND. NDSU fans are sure obsessed about UND. Siouxville (I mean Bisonville) sure has a lot of topics and conversations about UND. Gotta love it. I see where your volleyball team bounced back and won a couple of matches this weekend. Congratulations.

Or maybe we are ranked because our last loss was during FCS playoffs. Oh but wait, you probably aren't aware of that post season stuff called playoffs so I will cut you some slack.

HerdBot
09-19-2011, 09:44 PM
Guys, I got to admit I was pretty impressed that UND almost beat Fresno State. :hide:

However, that doesn't excuse voters from mixing them up with NDSU.

I also think Georgia Southern should be docked points for being cowardly. Seriously.

Me too but that should have zero impact on us dropping a record 6 spots by having a bye week. Clearly there was a mistake. The other polls font have UND ranked.

moosbah
09-19-2011, 09:58 PM
Ruh dick u luss

The_Sicatoka
09-19-2011, 10:12 PM
2011 FCS Coaches Week 3 Poll (September 19, 2011)

Team (No. 1 Votes) Record Points Last Week
1. Georgia Southern (25) 2-0 697 1 - idle
2. Northern Iowa (3) 1-1 666 2 - idle
3. Appalachian State 2-1 642 3 - def. Savannah State (41-6)
4. Montana State 2-1 615 4 - def. Minot State (43-7)
5. William & Mary 2-1 568 5 - def. New Haven (13-10)
6. Delaware 2-1 515 7 - def. Delaware State (45-0)
7. Richmond 3-0 514 9 - def. Va Military (34-19)
8. Wofford 1-1 488 8 - idle
9. Montana 2-1 462 11 - def. Eastern Wash (17-14)
10. James Madison 2-1 383 14 - def. Liberty (27-24)
11. New Hampshire 1-1 369 12 - idle
12. North Dakota State 2-0 359 6 - idle

The top five held serve by winning. The teams that moved past NDSU either won or were idle. I'll let the teams that won have the excuse to move up. I guess I'd question why Wofford holds at 8 and UNH moves past NDSU when all three were idle.

And as far as coaches being "confused" ... wouldn't UND's effort at Fresno State work in NDSU's favor? Wouldn't most folks just assume that was a top six (last week) FCS school putting the scare into Fresno State (and not previously unranked UND)?

EndZoneQB
09-19-2011, 10:18 PM
2011 FCS Coaches Week 3 Poll (September 19, 2011)

Team (No. 1 Votes) Record Points Last Week
1. Georgia Southern (25) 2-0 697 1 - idle
2. Northern Iowa (3) 1-1 666 2 - idle
3. Appalachian State 2-1 642 3 - def. Savannah State (41-6)
4. Montana State 2-1 615 4 - def. Minot State (43-7)
5. William & Mary 2-1 568 5 - def. New Haven (13-10)
6. Delaware 2-1 515 7 - def. Delaware State (45-0)
7. Richmond 3-0 514 9 - def. Va Military (34-19)
8. Wofford 1-1 488 8 - idle
9. Montana 2-1 462 11 - def. Eastern Wash (17-14)
10. James Madison 2-1 383 14 - def. Liberty (27-24)
11. New Hampshire 1-1 369 12 - idle
12. North Dakota State 2-0 359 6 - idle

The top five held serve by winning. The teams that moved past NDSU either won or were idle. I'll let the teams that won have the excuse to move up. I guess I'd question why Wofford holds at 8 and UNH moves past NDSU when all three were idle.

And as far as coaches being "confused" ... wouldn't UND's effort at Fresno State work in NDSU's favor? Wouldn't most folks just assume that was a top six (last week) FCS school putting the scare into Fresno State (and not previously unranked UND)?

I know you're a levelheaded contributor, so I don't mean this as a dickhead comment.

1. People would expect NDSU to win @Fresno State
2. No, because they split their votes up between NDSU/UND, meaning we have less points this week overall.

onbison09
09-19-2011, 10:34 PM
Welcome to what looks like the first FCS national mixup with NDSU and UND. The Division I Football Championship Subdivision coaches poll was puzzling at best today — NDSU was idle last weekend, but fell six spots from No. 6 to No. 12.

http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/

onbison09
09-19-2011, 11:24 PM
Surprising tweet from Klopack

@FGOSPORTSWRITER
Jeff Kolpack
I expect it from fb fans, but now I'm getting shit from an SID on a public domain.

Bisonwinagn
09-19-2011, 11:40 PM
This poll is very interesting considering NDSU dropped out of the Top 25 after their win over St. Francis. I'm not sure why or how they can be completely out of the poll. It just shows how ignorant some people are about the FCS as a whole.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/2183

NDSUstudent
09-19-2011, 11:48 PM
App State has played two patsies and were slaughtered by Virginia Tech, they are still at number three in the poll. So I don't buy the crap about our schedule hurting us and if that is the case how the hell is William and Mary not being punished after struggling to beat two non-conference patsies. At least we took care of business.

Bison bison
09-19-2011, 11:48 PM
Surprising tweet from Klopack

@FGOSPORTSWRITER
Jeff Kolpack
I expect it from fb fans, but now I'm getting shit from an SID on a public domain.

http://twitter.com/#!/search/UNDfootball

UNDSID (http://twitter.com/#%21/UNDSID) Jayson Hajdu

Yup, the voters HAD TO be confused. Thats what we'll go with. No way @UNDfootball (http://twitter.com/#%21/UNDfootball) could crack that poll just on its own merit (rolls eyes).




What a dumbass.

That is obviously what happened.

NDSUstudent
09-19-2011, 11:50 PM
Surprising tweet from Klopack

@FGOSPORTSWRITER
Jeff Kolpack
I expect it from fb fans, but now I'm getting shit from an SID on a public domain.

Yep, UND's SID is giving him shit....I'm sure everyone is shocked to hear that....

http://twitter.com/#!/UNDSID


@UNDSID Jayson Hajdu
Yup, the voters HAD TO be confused. Thats what we'll go with. No way @UNDfootball could crack that poll just on its own merit (rolls eyes).



@UNDSID Jayson Hajdu
If I'm Montana and Montana State, I look into this poll business immediately. Voters could've been mixing them up for years.

Bison bison
09-20-2011, 12:04 AM
hey student.

wtf is with duplicating my post?

:duel::duel::duel::duel::duel:

Bison03
09-20-2011, 12:11 AM
It sure has stirred things up in Fargo now that UND is ranked in a poll. You guys are wondering how UND is ranked with what their schedule is so far. You do realize how demanding NDSU's schedule has been so far don't you. So far NDSU has beaten 2 doormats from FCS last year. You have beaten a non scholarship team and St. Franny. Did either of those teams even win a game last year? Oh yeah, you beat " bye" to. You guys sure worry a lot about UND. NDSU fans are sure obsessed about UND. Siouxville (I mean Bisonville) sure has a lot of topics and conversations about UND. Gotta love it. I see where your volleyball team bounced back and won a couple of matches this weekend. Congratulations.


Say what you want about us beating 2 easy teams, but what has UND done? Beaten 1 non-scholarship team and lost 2 FBS games. Let me say that again, LOST 2 GAMES! A lot of teams in the top 25 have played easy teams and won. That is commen in FCS and FBS. A 1-2 team losing 2 straight should not magically go from receiving 0 votes to 136 votes. If you give those 136 votes to NDSU, then NDSU has 495 votes and is #8 in the pole. A little more realistic for being idle and comparable to the other idle teams. And if we are obsessed and you are not? What the hell are you doing on Bisonville. Fans of both teams will always pay attention to the other d1 school in the state. But back to my point. Someone give me one good reason how UND can lose a game and receive 136 more votes than the week before?

BadlandsBison
09-20-2011, 12:12 AM
All of these moral victories are blowing my freakin mind. We're talking a minimum 6-peat here.

CaBisonFan
09-20-2011, 12:13 AM
There's very little about this...ah...poll...that isn't stupid.

Anyone notice that Jake Miller had 3 touchdown runs? Did we recruit him? Hmmm

NDSUstudent
09-20-2011, 12:18 AM
hey student.

wtf is with duplicating my post?

:duel::duel::duel::duel::duel:

I'll give you credit for posting it first.

ndsubison1
09-20-2011, 12:20 AM
some (most) und fans never cease to amaze me

4mcruenomore
09-20-2011, 12:57 AM
Doesn't matter, we will prove it on the field.

perthbison
09-20-2011, 01:45 AM
Anyone notice that Jake Miller had 3 touchdown runs? Did we recruit him? Hmmm
I wondered the same thing. The kid has speed. On his first TD he was putting distance between him and those speedy DBs from the sunbelt.:confused:

HerdBot
09-20-2011, 01:47 AM
Surprising tweet from Klopack

@FGOSPORTSWRITER
Jeff Kolpack
I expect it from fb fans, but now I'm getting shit from an SID on a public domain.

Thanks to Jeff for saying what was painfully OBVIOUS!

4mcruenomore
09-20-2011, 01:49 AM
I wondered the same thing. The kid has speed. On his first TD he was putting distance between him and those speedy DBs from the sunbelt.:confused:

I got shit for bringing up his name a while back. DJ is a better back.

perthbison
09-20-2011, 02:05 AM
I got shit for bringing up his name a while back. DJ is a better back.ha ha. That is an obvious fact. DJ has a lot more than raw speed for credentials. The sioux should thank their lucky stars for J Miller though cause without him the moral victories would and will be less.:)

MN_BISON
09-20-2011, 02:06 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/search/UNDfootball

UNDSID (http://twitter.com/#%21/UNDSID) Jayson Hajdu

Yup, the voters HAD TO be confused. Thats what we'll go with. No way @UNDfootball (http://twitter.com/#%21/UNDfootball) could crack that poll just on its own merit (rolls eyes).




What a dumbass.

That is obviously what happened.

Wow, what a total douche. On its own merit, really? Chalk up a moral victory of sorts in a f'ed up poll. Enjoy it this week Jayson. I hope Jeff does some digging on this now that Mr. SID has taken it to a public form. If this guy has an issue with what Jeff tweeted then send him an email or call him and question what he wrote but I can't see our SID taking it public, guess I shouldn't be surprised though, it's about par for the course.

Bison bison
09-20-2011, 02:11 AM
Jeff should contact the folks who administer the poll and ask if there were any oddities. That is UND ranked in the top 10 OR miscoding.

Mr. Burgundy
09-20-2011, 02:20 AM
The Dbag SID from UND has tweeted again....I would guess that it is "on" between he and Kolpack. The power of the pen is pretty tough, and the SID will back down as he doesn't want to give up his $19,500 with benies first job. What is he bragging about? They are 1-2 and were HORRIBLE in two of the first three and their coach probably isn't too happy about a moral victory. My guess is that Kolpack will dig into this pretty hard tomorrow and find out the details. Not his first rodeo.

What has UND done in this FIVE year transition that has impressed anyone? How many D1 wins do they have in FIVE years? How many will they have this year? Remember, only D1 wins count now (someone remind their AD).

MN_BISON
09-20-2011, 02:30 AM
Where is Lakes when you need him, unleash the fury.:hide: Is there a Lakes version of the Bat Signal? I kid, well mostly, yeah pretty sure I'm kidding. :duel: :D

Hambone
09-20-2011, 02:33 AM
Not sure why everyone is getting so bent out of shape on this. If it was a mistake, then it will work itself out after this week I would assume.

Mr. Burgundy
09-20-2011, 02:38 AM
Not sure why everyone is getting so bent out of shape on this. If it was a mistake, then it will work itself out after this week I would assume.

"Yeah, recruit....we are ranked, only for the week, eventually people will realize there was a mistake and we will go back to the not listed schools. You want to be a Fighting...Si....err.....North Dakota?"

"Coach, is this like when you told Aaron Anderson of the hoops team we were going to be in the Summit?"

"No, that was basketball, they actually beat some of the worst schools in the nation, this is football, we don't actually have to win, we just want to keep it close. Didn't you hear Jake Miller? We went toe to toe!"

tony
09-20-2011, 02:42 AM
Not sure why everyone is getting so bent out of shape on this. If it was a mistake, then it will work itself out after this week I would assume.

While it has to be a mistake that UND is ranked, it's only annoying to me because NDSU's rank seems to have suffered from the mix-up.

They'll get it straightened out but nothing will beats winning.

Bison bison
09-20-2011, 02:43 AM
I feel kind of sorry for their SID.

He posted about the Jets obviously trying to bury his tweet.

TateMosersneighbor
09-20-2011, 02:45 AM
The good news is our club hockey team moved up in the polls.

Mr. Burgundy
09-20-2011, 02:45 AM
I feel kind of sorry for their SID.

He posted about the Jets obviously trying to bury his tweet.

No, he posted about the Jets (mocking Kolpack) because he was trying to be funny about the mistaken name (Giants are actually playing). he will lose this battle with Kolpack, no SID wants to get into a battle with a writer. NONE. This will only affect UND and their relationship with the Forum, trust me it is a petty business. Alot of grudges are held....alot against NDSU!

Hansel
09-20-2011, 02:45 AM
UND is 4-10 over the last two seasons, with those wins coming against a DII team, a non-scholarship FCS team, an FCS team play its first season of FB in 20 years, and a 5-6 Southland team. I for one think UND should extend Mussman's contract long-term.

Tatanka
09-20-2011, 02:46 AM
I feel kind of sorry for their SID.

He posted about the Jets obviously trying to bury his tweet.

except the giants play tonight not the jets. He's trying desperately to be clever. Highly professional, I might add. I hope kolpack makes him his personal bitch.

Bison bison
09-20-2011, 02:49 AM
wow.

what a f#cking douche.

that is beyond unprofessional.

i hope he is drunk. being in grand forks on a monday night, i assume he is.

Wally
09-20-2011, 02:49 AM
Not sure why everyone is getting so bent out of shape on this. If it was a mistake, then it will work itself out after this week I would assume.

No doubt. @UNDSID seems quite bent out of shape

EndZoneQB
09-20-2011, 02:53 AM
When I saw his twitter name was "@UNDSID", I thought it was a play on Sid Hartman. That made sense to me. Now, it's just :facepalm:

Notorious
09-20-2011, 02:59 AM
If the guy doesn't get fired, he's certinaly going to be on the wrong end of a "come to Jesus" meeting with Faison tomorrow...

DjKyRo
09-20-2011, 03:00 AM
Must....not....antagonize....

Tatanka
09-20-2011, 03:01 AM
If the guy doesn't get fired, he's certinaly going to be on the wrong end of a "come to Jesus" meeting with Faison tomorrow...

buthockey. He gets promoted instead. You can't refute my logic.

Wally
09-20-2011, 03:02 AM
If the guy doesn't get fired, he's certinaly going to be on the wrong end of a "come to Jesus" meeting with Faison tomorrow...

Faison? I thought hakstol ran the athletic dept.

JSUBison
09-20-2011, 03:08 AM
If the guy doesn't get fired, he's certinaly going to be on the wrong end of a "come to Jesus" meeting with Faison tomorrow...

Possible Popcorn: 2.0?

EndZoneQB
09-20-2011, 03:24 AM
Faison? I thought hakstol ran the athletic dept.

Wrong, Jody, or whatever her name is happens to run the department...Hakstol is simply her secretary.

CaBisonFan
09-20-2011, 03:25 AM
Here's my take on UND.

I don't care what they do.

I don't care if they win or lose.

I don't care what their mascot is.

I don't care who they play.

And I don't want them on our radar...ever...again.

It used to be a rivalry for me. Now...it's absolutely, stone-cold indifference.

Oh...and I don't even hate them. I just don't care.

ndsubison1
09-20-2011, 03:33 AM
except the giants play tonight not the jets. He's trying desperately to be clever. Highly professional, I might add. I hope kolpack makes him his personal bitch.

if kolpack proves him wrong i wouldnt be shocked if the UNDSID played the "my twitter account was hacked" card. ;)

Bison bison
09-20-2011, 03:35 AM
i don't think kolpack will pursue that angle.

obviously something was screwed up. i'm actually leaning toward a coding error.

DjKyRo
09-20-2011, 03:48 AM
if kolpack proves him wrong i wouldnt be shocked if the UNDSID played the "my twitter account was hacked" card. ;)

Actually he handled it pretty well.

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k499/DJyRo/undsid.jpg

344Johnson
09-20-2011, 03:51 AM
There's very little about this...ah...poll...that isn't stupid.

Anyone notice that Jake Miller had 3 touchdown runs? Did we recruit him? Hmmm

Played against Miller and Smith in high school. We went after the better player. Miller would be.....well, McNorton, Ojuri, Lang, Hudson, Smith, Miller. Thats leaving Crockett out of everything....

Wally
09-20-2011, 04:09 AM
Wrong, Jody, or whatever her name is happens to run the department...Hakstol is simply her secretary.


You're right, I should have consulted my official und athletics official org chart

344Johnson
09-20-2011, 04:14 AM
You're right, I should have consulted my official und athletics official org chart

I thought the UND Police would be under Hakstol? :confused: Perhaps I was wrong.

Wally
09-20-2011, 04:17 AM
I thought the UND Police would be under Hakstol? :confused: Perhaps I was wrong.

hak's line is just a bit higher than the campus police....gotta look closely...:)

344Johnson
09-20-2011, 04:20 AM
hak's line is just a bit higher than the campus police....gotta look closely...:)

Oh thank goodness. I was afraid my Org Chart was outdated....I was scared there.

Bison03
09-20-2011, 04:35 AM
What has UND done in this FIVE year transition that has impressed anyone? How many D1 wins do they have in FIVE years? How many will they have this year? Remember, only D1 wins count now (someone remind their AD).

UND record vs. D1: 10-16, 0-4 vs. FBS (2006-present)
NDSU record vs D1: 52-27, 4-3 vs. FBS (2003-present)

Granted we have 3 years of being D1 on them but 42 more Division 1 wins? Wow, just wow. Not scheduling D1 games and not winning those scheduled is the reason for this. UND fans cannot defend this.

tony
09-20-2011, 05:14 AM
Just to be clear, while having NDSU get mistaken for UND kind of sucks even if it doesn't affect NDSU's ranking, seeing the Herald, UND's SID, and UND fans celebrate an accidental ranking is really making up for it.

Heck, I think UND AD should hold a press conference. Must be exciting times up there... 2-8 in their last 10 games with wins against first-year football program Lamar and non-scholarship Drake and a big game against Black Hills State just around the corner. Things are looking up at UND!

Who knows? Maybe UND could pass NDSU in the rankings next week!

That said: I think UND did a good job against Fresno State.

CaBisonFan
09-20-2011, 05:21 AM
Played against Miller and Smith in high school. We went after the better player. Miller would be.....well, McNorton, Ojuri, Lang, Hudson, Smith, Miller. Thats leaving Crockett out of everything....

Appreciate the comments. Not arguing...but I think we should have recruited him anyway. He's a ND kid who would have sweat blood for the program. Could have played other positions if he's an outstanding athlete. Maybe he didn't want to. How about wide receiver or a slot type of position? Did he play defense in high school? Maybe UND guaranteed him a running back opportunity. This is probably it. Could have been an academic decision also.

Me? I would have gone after him big-time.

How about keeping him away from the 'other' programs?

FCSFan
09-20-2011, 05:23 AM
It sure has stirred things up in Fargo now that UND is ranked in a poll. You guys are wondering how UND is ranked with what their schedule is so far. You do realize how demanding NDSU's schedule has been so far don't you. So far NDSU has beaten 2 doormats from FCS last year. You have beaten a non scholarship team and St. Franny. Did either of those teams even win a game last year? Oh yeah, you beat " bye" to. You guys sure worry a lot about UND. NDSU fans are sure obsessed about UND. Siouxville (I mean Bisonville) sure has a lot of topics and conversations about UND. Gotta love it. I see where your volleyball team bounced back and won a couple of matches this weekend. Congratulations.

Since there has to be realizing to do, realize that UND is one of those FCS doormats. You shouldn't trash your equals on one of your superiors fan sites. Don't go hatin' on your peers man. It doesn't show well. You are St. Franny, realize that and buck up little camper!!!:group:

DjKyRo
09-20-2011, 05:24 AM
Appreciate the comments. Not arguing...but I think we should have recruited him anyway. He's a ND kid who would have sweat blood for the program. Could have played other positions if he's an outstanding athlete. Maybe he didn't want to. How about wide receiver or a slot type of position? Did he play defense in high school? Maybe UND guaranteed him a running back opportunity. This is probably it. Could have been an academic decision also.

Me? I would have gone after him big-time.

How about keeping him away from the 'other' programs?

It came down to looking at who'd already committed and who else we had coming in as an RB. With just 63 scholarships, you don't have the luxury of recruiting "athletes" unless they're exceptional and can play multiple positions, a la Christian Dudzik (who we recruited to play LB, strangely enough). In the end, it came down to Ryan Smith or Miller and we took Smith.

ndsubison1
09-20-2011, 05:38 AM
Since there has to be realizing to do, realize that UND is one of those FCS doormats. You shouldn't trash your equals on one of your superiors fan sites. Don't go hatin' on your peers man. It doesn't show well. You are St. Franny, realize that and buck up little camper!!!:group:

but theyre ranked 21st

ndsubison1
09-20-2011, 05:39 AM
It came down to looking at who'd already committed and who else we had coming in as an RB. With just 63 scholarships, you don't have the luxury of recruiting "athletes" unless they're exceptional and can play multiple positions, a la Christian Dudzik (who we recruited to play LB, strangely enough). In the end, it came down to Ryan Smith or Miller and we took Smith.

pretty sure dudzik was recruited to play safety

DjKyRo
09-20-2011, 06:31 AM
pretty sure dudzik was recruited to play safety

Right, I was thinking Emmanuel. D'oy.

Herd
09-20-2011, 06:44 AM
I think the ranking is correct by virtue of und's true record, 1-0-2. After leading at the half vs Illinois (UI) who beat up on the SDSU aztecs the week before, and the 5 point loss to Florida State (FSU), both of the losses slide over into the moral victory category and thus you have a team with no losses. I don't think dakota school confusion is a factor. They will make another big move next week with a close loss to BhSU on the blue carpet in Boise moving to 1-0-3 and into the top 10. Even if some of your can't understand und's success, the FCS coaches know whats going on.

devin45k
09-20-2011, 07:59 AM
UND record vs. D1: 10-16, 0-4 vs. FBS (2006-present)
NDSU record vs D1: 52-27, 4-3 vs. FBS (2003-present)

Granted we have 3 years of being D1 on them but 42 more Division 1 wins? Wow, just wow. Not scheduling D1 games and not winning those scheduled is the reason for this. UND fans cannot defend this.

I would use the same discussion with Division II

NDSU was better and always will be

Twentysix
09-20-2011, 10:25 AM
I would use the same discussion with Division II

NDSU was better and always will be

When UND was D2 were they playing all these NAIA and DIII teams?

CaBisonFan
09-20-2011, 10:42 AM
I think the ranking is correct by virtue of und's true record, 1-0-2. After leading at the half vs Illinois (UI) who beat up on the SDSU aztecs the week before, and the 5 point loss to Florida State (FSU), both of the losses slide over into the moral victory category and thus you have a team with no losses. I don't think dakota school confusion is a factor. They will make another big move next week with a close loss to BhSU on the blue carpet in Boise moving to 1-0-3 and into the top 10. Even if some of your can't understand und's success, the FCS coaches know whats going on.

Good one...:rimshot:

WYOBISONMAN
09-20-2011, 12:08 PM
Hell......The FCS powers that be will probably decide these moral victories are so compelling and powerful that they will wave UND into the playoffs despite not being eligible. I suspect a solid win over Black Hills State should move UND past the Bison in the polls.....even if we beat Minnesota.

TransAmBison
09-20-2011, 12:12 PM
Could it be they are averaging out the ranking in the poll because they are considering us a super university?

Notorious
09-20-2011, 12:26 PM
Could it be they are averaging out the ranking in the poll because they are considering us a super university?

University of North Dakota State at Hillsboro

Twentysix
09-20-2011, 12:44 PM
Hell......The FCS powers that be will probably decide these moral victories are so compelling and powerful that they will wave UND into the playoffs despite not being eligible. I suspect a solid win over Black Hills State should move UND past the Bison in the polls.....even if we beat Minnesota.

Well we won't have played anyone. Beating minnesota isnt worth anything.

344Johnson
09-20-2011, 01:05 PM
Appreciate the comments. Not arguing...but I think we should have recruited him anyway. He's a ND kid who would have sweat blood for the program. Could have played other positions if he's an outstanding athlete. Maybe he didn't want to. How about wide receiver or a slot type of position? Did he play defense in high school? Maybe UND guaranteed him a running back opportunity. This is probably it. Could have been an academic decision also.

Me? I would have gone after him big-time.

How about keeping him away from the 'other' programs?

He played some corner in high school if they needed him to(AKA if they played good teams....not Jamestown), he definitely has potential to be a sort of slot guy, he is fast and probably 5' 10"-6'. Maybe UND did, maybe he wanted to play right away..who knows. I can definitely see why people would want him at NDSU, I'm just saying if NDSU decided we are only going after one of them, I think they made the right choice going with Ryan Smith.

Yeah beating Minnesota is not worth anything. honestly I kind of wish they would have beat New Mexico St. handily, and then if we beat them they'd be 2-2 with two easy wins, a loss to us, and a loss to USC. Even if USC has fallen off recently, they still have the name recognition where people are still impressed with them.

NorthernBison
09-20-2011, 01:25 PM
It's a poll three weeks into a season where most teams have played a combination of cupcakes and guaranteed loss games against FBS competition.

It's hard to justify NDSU at #6 or #8 or whatever based on our two wins.

It's really a hoot to see UND poeple getting all wet about getting ranked for losing a close game. Especially when the evidence supports it being a mistaken identity.

I think they are benefitting from OUR reputation because they certainly haven't established one fo their own during the transition. I think they should be proud that our reputation is rubbing off on them.

semobison
09-20-2011, 01:29 PM
[QUOTE=344Johnson;528622]He played some corner in high school if they needed him to(AKA if they played good teams....not Jamestown), he definitely has potential to be a sort of slot guy, he is fast and probably 5' 10"-6'. Maybe UND did, maybe he wanted to play right away..who knows. I can definitely see why people would want him at NDSU, I'm just saying if NDSU decided we are only going after one of them, I think they made the right choice going with Ryan Smith.

Yeah beating Minnesota is not worth anything. honestly I kind of wish they would have beat New Mexico St. handily, and then if we beat them they'd be 2-2 with two easy wins, a loss to us, and a loss to USC. Even if USC has fallen off recently, they still have the name recognition where people are still impressed with them.[/QUOT

After watching Miller and Smith in the Badlands Bowl I thought Miller was handsdown the better of the two after getting named MVP but I heard Smith was less than 100%! Both good ND backs!

WYOBISONMAN
09-20-2011, 02:10 PM
It's a poll three weeks into a season where most teams have played a combination of cupcakes and guaranteed loss games against FBS competition.

It's hard to justify NDSU at #6 or #8 or whatever based on our two wins.

It's really a hoot to see UND poeple getting all wet about getting ranked for losing a close game. Especially when the evidence supports it being a mistaken identity.

I think they are benefitting from OUR reputation because they certainly haven't established one fo their own during the transition. I think they should be proud that our reputation is rubbing off on them.

Probably the most accurate statement I have read on this topic....

tony
09-20-2011, 02:12 PM
It's a poll three weeks into a season where most teams have played a combination of cupcakes and guaranteed loss games against FBS competition.

It's hard to justify NDSU at #6 or #8 or whatever based on our two wins.

Well, this early in the season, there haven't been enough games played to really make much of a judgement so pollsters look at a team's last 10 games or so. I think NDSU's #6 rank was based more on last year's playoff run than on wins this year so dropping in the rankings makes no sense, especially since NDSU's two opponents won their games last weekend.

That said, NDSU has a game that's going to be tough to win followed by a game that could easily be one of those "letdown" games that happens after a huge game. So polls, schmolls. One week at a time :)

stevdock
09-20-2011, 03:37 PM
Well, this early in the season, there haven't been enough games played to really make much of a judgement so pollsters look at a team's last 10 games or so. I think NDSU's #6 rank was based more on last year's playoff run than on wins this year so dropping in the rankings makes no sense, especially since NDSU's two opponents won their games last weekend.

That said, NDSU has a game that's going to be tough to win followed by a game that could easily be one of those "letdown" games that happens after a huge game. So polls, schmolls. One week at a time :)

You're right Ill St. could be a huge let down game. Good thing it is Homecoming so at least the Dome should be sold out and that will help the players stay up for the game. Now practice that week might be a different story.

CAS4127
09-20-2011, 03:39 PM
You're right Ill St. could be a huge let down game. Good thing it is Homecoming so at least the Dome should be sold out and that will help the players stay up for the game. Now practice that week might be a different story.

It should only be "letdown" game if we win. If we lose, we had damn well be ready for conference play--WTF??!!:duel:

344Johnson
09-20-2011, 03:56 PM
It should only be "letdown" game if we win. If we lose, we had damn well be ready for conference play--WTF??!!:duel:

CAS we are assuming the boys are going to get a W this weekend ;)

Herd
09-20-2011, 05:56 PM
Let's be fair, ndsu is ranked near the top 5 due to its comparison to the top ranked Big Sky schools, which ndsu showed some serious ball to in 2010. Some would say tbat ndsu should not be looking up at Mt State in the polls. Mt states only tough game this year was a moral victory. They are 2-0-1 to most voters. imo, Mt State's win against Minot should have done no more than the Bison sleeping in last Saturday for their ranking.

Answer Guy
09-20-2011, 07:12 PM
fcs coaches poll is a JOKE!

Scooter1
09-22-2011, 08:06 PM
Well, this early in the season, there haven't been enough games played to really make much of a judgement so pollsters look at a team's last 10 games or so. I think NDSU's #6 rank was based more on last year's playoff run than on wins this year so dropping in the rankings makes no sense, especially since NDSU's two opponents won their games last weekend.

That said, NDSU has a game that's going to be tough to win followed by a game that could easily be one of those "letdown" games that happens after a huge game. So polls, schmolls. One week at a time :)

I would add that St Francis Kyle Harbridge was the FCS national co-offensive player of the week and Kyle Simmons from Lafayette was FCS national co-defensive player of the week. Yet, those players are only considered to be sub-par when they are playing the Bison....guess we need to start scheduling DII schools to keep our ranking, right GSU faithful? (chicken-shits.)

Even though I think that NDSU will make this weekend a good game, the Gophers should win...(good chance they won't)

But, if NDSU doesn't win, look for them to drop down to 23rd or so just behind 0-4 EWU. :rimshot:

Northside Bison
09-22-2011, 11:25 PM
I would add that St Francis Kyle Harbridge was the FCS national co-offensive player of the week and Kyle Simmons from Lafayette was FCS national co-defensive player of the week. Yet, those players are only considered to be sub-par when they are playing the Bison....guess we need to start scheduling DII schools to keep our ranking, right GSU faithful? (chicken-shits.)

Even though I think that NDSU will make this weekend a good game, the Gophers should win...(good chance they won't)

But, if NDSU doesn't win, look for them to drop down to 23rd or so just behind 0-4 EWU. :rimshot:

Wait, If NDSU "plays the gophers tough for 4 quarters", then we would should go up in the polls right? It worked for UND, why not us? :biggrin:

Tatanka
09-22-2011, 11:47 PM
Because we don't have hockey. Duh.