Week 1 AGS Poll

[Hambone]

Week 1 Results...
1 Eastern Washington Eagles 2100 69
2 Georgia Southern Eagles 2047 16
3 Northern Iowa Panthers 1647 0
4 William & Mary Tribe 1645 0
5 Montana State Bobcats 1638 0
6 North Dakota State Bison 1573 0
7 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 1569 0
8 Appalachian State Mountaineers 1492 0
9 Wofford Terriers 1479 0
10 Richmond Spiders 1438 0
11 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1180 0
12 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 1072 0
13 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 969 0
14 New Hampshire Wildcats 953 0
15 Montana Grizzlies 869 0
16 Sacramento State Hornets 839 1
17 Southern Illinois Salukis 809 0
18 James Madison Dukes 677 0
19 Liberty Flames 511 0
20 Villanova Wildcats 413 0
21 Central Arkansas Bears 405 0
22 Chattanooga Mocs 319 0
23 Cal Poly Mustangs 265 0
24 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 263 0
25 South Carolina State Bulldogs 258 0


Also recieving votes:


26 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 209 0
27 McNeese State Cowboys 188 0
28 Pennsylvania Quakers 131 0
29 Sam Houston State Bearkats 116 0
30 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 114 0
31 Weber State Wildcats 88 0
32 North Dakota Fighting Sioux 72 0
33 Stony Brook Seawolves 70 0
34 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 67 0
35 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 44 0
36 Colgate Raiders 43 0
37 Old Dominion Monarchs 39 0
38 Eastern Illinois Panthers 31 0
39 Western Illinois Leathernecks 23 0
40 Murray State Racers 23 0
41 Alabama State Hornets 23 0
42 Harvard Crimson 21 0
43 Rhode Island Rams 17 0
44 Jackson State Tigers 17 0
45 Towson Tigers 17 0
46 Hampton Pirates 15 0
47 Delaware State Hornets 14 0
48 Youngstown State Penguins 14 0
49 UC Davis Aggies 13 0
50 Tennessee State Tigers 12 0
51 Florida A&M Rattlers 11 0
52 Southeast Missouri State Redhawks 10 0
53 Dayton Flyers 10 0

[tjbison]

We are too high at #6:hide:

[onbison09]

I'm seriously starting to wonder if people get us screwed up with UND :hide:

[344Johnson]

Week 1 Results...
32 North Dakota Fighting Sioux 72 0

I was very excited to see NDSU at 6 until I realized this whole Poll was a typo.

[Hambone]

And for full disclosure, here's how I voted.

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Richmond Spiders
4: Northern Iowa Panthers
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
7: William & Mary Tribe
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Southern Illinois Salukis
13: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
14: Sacramento State Hornets
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Liberty Flames
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
23: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
24: South Carolina State Bulldogs
25: Eastern Kentucky Colonels

[Tatanka]

I'm seriously starting to wonder if people get us screwed up with UND :hide:

Count on it.

[Hambone]

I'm seriously starting to wonder if people get us screwed up with UND :hide:

I believe there are probably a few that do.

[tjbison]

I'm seriously starting to wonder if people get us screwed up with UND :hide:

They do, over on SS.com a poster from Fresno St. Watched us play EWU in the Quarters last year and thought we were playing them this year. I think alot of people forget there are 2 FCS schools in ND

[DjKyRo]

Mine, a little more crazy than the poll itself.


1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: William & Mary Tribe
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: Appalachian State Mountaineers
8: Richmond Spiders
9: Northern Iowa Panthers
10: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
11: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Montana Grizzlies
15: Southern Illinois Salukis
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Liberty Flames
18: James Madison Dukes
19: Chattanooga Mocs
20: Central Arkansas Bears
21: Cal Poly Mustangs
22: South Carolina State Bulldogs
23: Sacramento State Hornets
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: South Dakota State Jackrabbits

Keep in mind that by the time I realized I'd left out UNH, it was too late to ask the mods to nix my poll and re-submit. So put UNH somewhere in the 13-15 range and remove SDSU.

[DjKyRo]

They do, over on SS.com a poster from Fresno St. Watched us play EWU in the Quarters last year and thought we were playing them this year. I think alot of people forget there are 2 FCS schools in ND

There are? ;)

[tjbison]

And for full disclosure, here's how I voted.

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Richmond Spiders
4: Northern Iowa Panthers
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
7: William & Mary Tribe
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Southern Illinois Salukis
13: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
14: Sacramento State Hornets
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Liberty Flames
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
23: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
24: South Carolina State Bulldogs
25: Eastern Kentucky Colonels


Mine, a little more crazy than the poll itself.


1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: William & Mary Tribe
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: Appalachian State Mountaineers
8: Richmond Spiders
9: Northern Iowa Panthers
10: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
11: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: Montana Grizzlies
15: Southern Illinois Salukis
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Liberty Flames
18: James Madison Dukes
19: Chattanooga Mocs
20: Central Arkansas Bears
21: Cal Poly Mustangs
22: South Carolina State Bulldogs
23: Sacramento State Hornets
24: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
25: South Dakota State Jackrabbits

Keep in mind that by the time I realized I'd left out UNH, it was too late to ask the mods to nix my poll and re-submit. So put UNH somewhere in the 13-15 range and remove SDSU.

I just dont feel we are a top 5-6 team yet.......key is YET. If the passing game is improved we will be. I firmly believe our D is top 5 in the country right now but our offense is maybe top 25 overall, but if DJ and Sam get rolling along with some passing LOOK THE F OUT!!!!!!

[DjKyRo]

I just dont feel we are a top 5-6 team yet.......key is YET. If the passing game is improved we will be. I firmly believe our D is top 5 in the country right now but our offense is maybe top 25 overall, but if DJ and Sam get rolling along with some passing LOOK THE F OUT!!!!!!

I voted mostly based on having to notch App. St., Delaware, and W&M down after some truly embarrassing defeats to FBS schools. Granted, VTech is going to be an ACC contender this year, but for ASU to allow 66 points to anybody is just messed up. I had us at 8 to start the season so 6 didn't seem too far a stretch.

[CaBisonFan]

Week 1 Results...
1 Eastern Washington Eagles 2100 69
2 Georgia Southern Eagles 2047 16
3 Northern Iowa Panthers 1647 0
4 William & Mary Tribe 1645 0
5 North Dakota State Bison 1573 0
6 Montana State Bobcats 1538 0

CA's correction...but this poll was better...:cool:

[Hambone]

I just dont feel we are a top 5-6 team yet.......key is YET. If the passing game is improved we will be. I firmly believe our D is top 5 in the country right now but our offense is maybe top 25 overall, but if DJ and Sam get rolling along with some passing LOOK THE F OUT!!!!!!

My preseason poll had NDSU at 10, but the way that teams like Appy, William & Mary, etc lost (and Wofford only beat a terrible Presby team by 7), I just adjusted accordingly. I think after about Week 4 or 5 I'll have a better feel for everything.

[coldspot]

if you take the 72 accident points UND has and gave them to us, where they rightfully belong, we would be tied for 4th with W&M.

[DjKyRo]

AGS has a few UND/BSC yahoos that vote that I'm sure figured a 16-point shutout of a Pioneer team was worth a top-20 ranking. Give it a few weeks and they'll trickle out.

[Herd]

Michigan Michigan State . . . Ohio Ohio State . . . potato potatoe. There are all the same, right?

[BlueBisonRock]

I had and have every confidence in you. Its the DaveKs of the world that concern me.


And for full disclosure, here's how I voted.

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Richmond Spiders
4: Northern Iowa Panthers
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
7: William & Mary Tribe
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Appalachian State Mountaineers
10: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Southern Illinois Salukis
13: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
14: Sacramento State Hornets
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17: Cal Poly Mustangs
18: Liberty Flames
19: Montana Grizzlies
20: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
23: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
24: South Carolina State Bulldogs
25: Eastern Kentucky Colonels

[Twentysix]

We do play fresno, at home even..in basketball.

[Twentysix]

I still dont believe SFA deserves a top 25 rank.

[JSUBison]

I still dont believe SFA deserves a top 25 rank.

They are in my top 5. :hide: But it has nothing to do with the win against the D3 school.

Even with Moses gone, I think they will be a lock or at least a near lock for the Southland title every year. Their gonna chuck it 30-40+ times a game, and I really think they have a chance to knock off UNI, and finish season with only 1 loss to Baylor. However, I really find their program and coach's ethics disgusting and hope the Panthers knock the crap out of them.

[DjKyRo]

However, I really find their program and coach's ethics disgusting and hope the Panthers knock the crap out of them.

For those who aren't in the know, enjoy this little clip from their game last season against Texas A&M.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFojfG31enA

Long story short, they faked injuries so the team could get a breather while they were getting whalloped by a better team.

[X-Factor]

I had and have every confidence in you. Its the DaveKs of the world that concern me.

I don't believe DaveK is a voting member of the AGS poll. I will see if I can round up a list of pollsters.

[X-Factor]

This is a pretty good list of respectable voters. IMO. But then again, I am on the list so what do you expect me to say :)


2011 Registered Voter List:

401ks
813jag
89Hen
andy7171
Anovafan
appattk
appfan2008
Appguy
apphole
asknoquarter21
asumike83
ASUMountaineer
B&G
bamamountaineer1013
bigcasu
bincitysioux
bison fan in nw mn
Bison_Kent
bjtheflamesfan
blazrdog#1
blueandwhitefightfight
BlueGoldAg
bluehenbillk
BlueHenSinfonian
Blurattler
bojeta
bonarae
breezy
bullseye44
chattownmocs
citdog
clenz
Cmitty
Cocky
CrazyCat
crusader11
cwboyfan
da_Bison
Dane96
darell1976
ddmann
DJKyR0
DOME
downbythebeach
drpnut
dystopiamembrane
Eagle_77
Eagle16
elonfirefighter
Fargobison
FCS Go!
Fear the Bird
footballer23
FTG06'
GeauxLions94
Gil Dobie
GlassOnion
Go Lehigh TU Owl
GoAgs72
GoApps2000
GoBlueHens83
GreatAppSt
Green Cookie Monster
Gringer1
Grizo406
Grizzaholic
Grizzmark
GSU Eagle
gsuhooligan
HailSzczur
Hambone
HensRock
horseshoe app
humble steward
iceman4221
Ivytalk
Jacked_Rabbit
JaxStateDSM93
jhanel
JMU2K_DukeDawg
jmufan999
JMUNJ08
JSU02
jsubison
kalm
kdinva
KNUTS
LeadBolt
Lehigh Football Nation
Libertine
lionsrking2
LUHawker
m_olslund - NDSU
MacThor
MarchingMountaineer
mcneese75
Milktruck74
molly
Monarch History
Mr. C
MR. CHICKEN
msupokes1
Mvemjsunpx
ngineer
NHwildEcat
OB55
OhioHen
Old Grad
OldApp79
pantherrob82
Pard4Life
paward
phoenixphanatic21
pleahy
polsongrizz
putter
rabidrabbit
RattlerFan70
Red & Black
redspider
Redwyn
RichH2
ridgerock
Rob Iola
Saint3333
Screamin_Eagle174
SF State Gaters
sikolec
skjellyfetti
slostang
smallcollegefbfan
Sonuvahenx2
SpeedkingATL
squealofthepig
ST_Lawson
superman7515
TBIRDSFN10
T-Dog
techstate
TexasTerror
THE DANIMAL
The Eagle's Cliff
theasushow
TheDancinMonarch
TheRevSFA
Travelinman67
Tribal
Tribe4SF
tribefan40
TTUEagles
Twentysix
UD77
UNH_Alum_In_CT
urmite
ursus arctos horribilis
VT Wildcat Fan53
westcoastaggie
WileECoyote06
wmmii
wrenfgun
X-Factor

[X-Factor]

One more comment, I think that those of you who think we don't deserve a #6 ranking have been sandbagging the Red for far too many years. Aside from WR, the kind of depth that the Bison have this year is a rarity in FCS football.

[semobison]

One more comment, I think that those of you who think we don't deserve a #6 ranking have been sandbagging the Red for far too many years. Aside from WR, the kind of depth that the Bison have this year is a rarity in FCS football.

Rankings dont mean squat at this point. If we go 4-4 in the Valley again this year we could be at home watching the playoffs! Lets earn our ranking! Talk to me about how good we are after we beat UNI!

[BlueBisonRock]

This is a pretty good list of respectable voters. IMO. But then again, I am on the list so what do you expect me to say :)


2011 Registered Voter List:
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Yes, I accept your assertion . . . It is a pretty good list of respectable voters.

However, I did see at least one poser (not hoser n8ter) on the list.

[bincitysioux]

Here was mine..................

1: Eastern Washington Eagles
2: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
3: Appalachian State Mountaineers
4: Georgia Southern Eagles
5: William & Mary Tribe
6: Northern Iowa Panthers
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: New Hampshire Wildcats
10: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
11: Villanova Wildcats
12: North Dakota State Bison
13: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
14: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
15: Southern Illinois Salukis
16: Richmond Spiders
17: Sacramento State Hornets
18: James Madison Dukes
19: Pennsylvania Quakers
20: Liberty Flames
21: McNeese State Cowboys
22: UC Davis Aggies
23: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
24: South Carolina State Bulldogs
25: Central Arkansas Bears

[WYOBISONMAN]

I avoid AGS like a plague......ever since Ralph Wallace went nuts.

[Hambone]

I avoid AGS like a plague......ever since Ralph Wallace went nuts.

Ralph is no longer there. Ursus and Cleets purchased and run the site now. I still prefer CS overall, but I've met Ursus in person and he's a good dude and they're trying to make the site back to what it used to be. I'd actually encourage Bison fans to partake, particularly at CS because it's being overrun by JBB (and to a lesser extent lakes) and they need to have discussions with the normal cats that post here. Note that you will get a lot of crap right away, but they really are a good bunch of dudes, and the NDSU fan base needs some good representation over there, besides the occasional appearance by Gil and a few others.

[Twentysix]

Ralph is no longer there. Ursus and Cleets purchased and run the site now. I still prefer CS overall, but I've met Ursus in person and he's a good dude and they're trying to make the site back to what it used to be. I'd actually encourage Bison fans to partake, particularly at CS because it's being overrun by JBB (and to a lesser extent lakes) and they need to have discussions with the normal cats that post here. Note that you will get a lot of crap right away, but they really are a good bunch of dudes, and the NDSU fan base needs some good representation over there, besides the occasional appearance by Gil and a few others.

Cs is ok. I like the reformed ags better cause its not as bison hostile.

[EndZoneQB]

Ralph is no longer there. Ursus and Cleets purchased and run the site now. I still prefer CS overall, but I've met Ursus in person and he's a good dude and they're trying to make the site back to what it used to be. I'd actually encourage Bison fans to partake, particularly at CS because it's being overrun by JBB (and to a lesser extent lakes) and they need to have discussions with the normal cats that post here. Note that you will get a lot of crap right away, but they really are a good bunch of dudes, and the NDSU fan base needs some good representation over there, besides the occasional appearance by Gil and a few others.

Yeah apparently I got called out on CS by JBB?? I don't even read the site nor have I ever so IDK wtf he was talking about. Saying I called it the "tard site" which I have never nor do I care to even comment on it. Whatever, dudes a tool.

[DjKyRo]

One of the more completely insane submissions from this week:


1: Eastern Washington Eagles: I don't vote the previous champ #1 just because they won, but when you pair that with a performance and near win vs. an in-state FBS rival, EWU gets my vote.

2: Sacramento State Hornets: If I based my vote on the previous year, this vote would never happen, but for Sac State to go on the road to a BCS squads stadium and win is impressive. After one week, it's fair to say they are a Top 5 team. The test is to say if they can continue.

3: Richmond Spiders: BCS win on the road (I know it was Duke) added to Richmond's track record puts them right behind Sac State

4: Weber State Wildcats: This vote might be a little high. Not sure how much almost winning at Wyoming REALLY means, but I don't have many arguments to place anyone higher after week one.

5: Montana State Bobcats: The Bobcats had some high expectations and had a decent game against a good FBS squad. Hard to say.

6: Georgia Southern Eagles: GSU's win over Samford was hard to gauge. Could see arguements to be a little higher or lower.

7: North Dakota State Bison: NDSU smoked Lafayette and it's hard to place them any lower.

8: Northern Iowa Panthers: UNI had a good game against a BCS in-state rival. I've seen them higher and lower in polls.

9: South Dakota State Jackrabbits: SDSU may be a little high in some people's eyes. I've been impressed with the direction of the programs in Brookings and Cedar City, so the Jacks ended up here for week one.

10: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks: What does running up the score on a sub D-I team tell you? SFA gets placed here for now.

11: Montana Grizzlies: I saw the Griz in person this weekend and I thought the game was closer than the score showed. I was impressed with the lines on both side of the ball. A few betters decisions here and there and it may have been a different game.

12: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers: Might be a little high in retrospect. Like I said, hard to place teams when some played FCS and some played FBS. Need to see more from CCU and Furman to place them more accurately.

13: McNeese State Cowboys: Good showing vs. Kansas. Hard to say what that means. At least they hung in.

14: Appalachian State Mountaineers: I don't want to assume too much from the game vs. VA Tech, but what I did see was not what I have come to expect from Jerry. This seemed like a fair placement.

15: Central Arkansas Bears: Off the top of my head I can't even remember who they played. Wouldn't argue this too strongly one way or another. The bottom of the poll is even more of a guess than the top.

16: Southern Utah Thunderbirds: I personally expect to see good things from SUU and SDSU. SUU fought tough on the road, and just because they lost doesn't mean they aren't one of the Top 25 teams in FCS.

17: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens: I thought the game with Navy might be a little closer.

18: Jacksonville State Gamecocks: I don't have much to say about this one.

19: Lehigh Mountain Hawks: Lehigh won a game they should win. We'll see a lot more this week.

20: Stony Brook Seawolves: Hung in on the road at UTEP.

21: New Hampshire Wildcats: UNH might be a little low. I saw a lot of good from them. Similar to Montana. Their game with Toledo was much closer than the score. Toledo looks to be that one MAC team that is really good every now and then.

22: Maine Black Bears: Won a game they should win.

23: Elon Phoenix: Could argue this one. Good performance vs Vandy though.

24: Southeastern Louisiana Lions: Good game with Tulane. Not sure what to make of that.

25: Villanova Wildcats: Not sure if they even belong in the poll. But that can be said for a lot of these teams.

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[onbison09]

That is why I don't put any stock in AGS

[EagleBison]

FWIW, the first AGS vote is happening this weekend. I'm sure NDSU will be the pre-season favorite, but if you want to get in and vote, now is the time to start.

[reformedUNDfan]

FWIW, the first AGS vote is happening this weekend. I'm sure NDSU will be the pre-season favorite, but if you want to get in and vote, now is the time to start.

you have to have been a member for a year and have 100 posts

[Twentysix]

I dont follow every team during the offseason. I just replicated my post championship vote. The second preseason vote will probably be the first time I move any teams around.

[EagleBison]

From what I am seeing, they are relaxing the restrictions for the pre-season poll to get more people to participate. They hope the new voters will stick around and get to 100 posts before the first regular season vote.

[EagleBison]

I dont follow every team during the offseason. I just replicated my post championship vote. The second preseason vote will probably be the first time I move any teams around.

I did move Montana down with the coach and possibly the QB gone from last year with the rape allegations.

[Herd]

I thinks is easy to confuse NDSU/UND, the same way I always confuse Michigan and Michigan State . . . or Penn and Penn State (not). Ya, its not insulting or anything for our state.:ranting:

Idiots, make an effort, its not rocket science.

[NDSU92]

I thinks is easy to confuse NDSU/UND, the same way I always confuse Michigan and Michigan State . . . or Penn and Penn State (not). Ya, its not insulting or anything for our state.:ranting:

Idiots, make an effort, its not rocket science.

It's tough when one of the universities is happy to be confused with the other in regards to all sports other than the hockies.

[tjbison]

this poll is a joke anyways, mods will disregard anything they see as wrong

[BadlandsBison]

The only thing ags accomplishes is pissing off bison fans lol

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[reformedUNDfan]

The only thing ags accomplishes is pissing off bison fans lol

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wierd because ags is probably the most favorable poll to ndsu

[EagleBison]

wierd because ags is probably the most favorable poll to ndsu

AGS has new management starting last season. The AGS votes are not rejected if they are reasonable and do not include homer votes, like 8 teams from the MVFC or teams that have 1-4 records in the top 10. It's mostly common sense if a person is serious about their vote and take the bias out. cs.com is very anti-Bison due to JBB, it was fun to watch the Bison bashers eat crow last season.

[BadlandsBison]

wierd because ags is probably the most favorable poll to ndsu

But the absents of sanity on that site occurs at a very high rate, bison fans not excluded. To me, the poll is pretty meh and for my own sanity I don't take it seriously after seeing things that some of the posters say.

Case in point, I'm pretty sure screamingeagle is allowed a vote.

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[EagleBison]

But the absents of sanity on that site occurs at a very high rate, bison fans not excluded. To me, the poll is pretty meh and for my own sanity I don't take it seriously after seeing things that some of the posters say.

Case in point, I'm pretty sure screamingeagle is allowed a vote.

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I doubt screamingeagle was ever sober or sane enough to put a poll together. ;)

[Twentysix]

I did move Montana down with the coach and possibly the QB gone from last year with the rape allegations.

I intend to do the same thing in the second preseaon poll. Montana was my biggest loss team.

In the past another preseason poll is done like 2 weeks before the season starts.

[IzzyFlexion]

Case in point, I'm pretty sure screamingeagle is allowed a vote.

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Geez. I don't miss that little fruitcake.

[Twentysix]

The only thing ags accomplishes is pissing off bison fans lol

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Pretty sure you mean CS. CS isa replica of AGS from several years ago. AGS is a perfectly fine place to read about the whole subdivision.