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344Johnson
02-22-2011, 04:31 AM
Would you rather go back to the veer, or continue watching this offense with its same level of execution......... Partially kidding but mostly serious....see, look at my face.:uhyeah:

It is sad when I come to the dome on a saturday and am subjected to watching this atrocity of an offense.

However it would also be sad to run a silly offense I see four teams run.

Jamestown High School(What is a playoff berth and does it come from the hospital? :confused: )
Air Force(Shouldn't we have a good....air attack? :blush: )
Navy(Whats up Brah'? :cool: )
Georgia Tech(Where did the wins go? Oh, with Dwyer? ok :( )

DjKyRo
02-22-2011, 04:39 AM
Changing to the veer won't solve the problems of execution the team's had recently. Execution is up to the players and the coaches to have the right players on the field to fit the system or the specific play being run.

Not saying I disagree that the offense has been pretty lackluster but conversely the solution isn't to change offensive systems, or if it is it won't happen over the course of a single season.

lakesbison
02-22-2011, 04:54 AM
dumbest thread of the day. and tomorrow.

WRSDBison
02-22-2011, 05:07 AM
dumbest thread of the day. and tomorrow.

Really? Dumber than some of your threads? Why must you always make every thread about yourself?

sambini
02-22-2011, 05:32 AM
Run the veer...

unbison
02-22-2011, 05:33 AM
Changing to the veer won't solve the problems of execution the team's had recently. Execution is up to the players and the coaches to have the right players on the field to fit the system or the specific play being run.

Not saying I disagree that the offense has been pretty lackluster but conversely the solution isn't to change offensive systems, or if it is it won't happen over the course of a single season.

execution is a not just players it is coaches having the kids prepared.....it is coaches demanding execution or you are on the bench!

two vince lombardi quotes come to mind

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence




Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.

Twentysix
02-22-2011, 05:36 AM
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BlueBisonRock
02-22-2011, 05:54 AM
execution is a not just players it is coaches having the kids prepared.....it is coaches demanding execution or you are on the bench!

two vince lombardi quotes come to mind

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence




Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.


wow....rofl. I hope they dont let you coach minors.

UnBison hit a valid and key point. I have had the opportunity to coach minors (grades 4 to 9). I never had a loosing team. I made it a point to understand what the kid wanted from the experience and then worked to get their wants into the team goals. That does infer that I did get inside of their heads.

BTW, Goal number 1 was to have FUN! Fun meant hard work and finding out just how much each kid really had to contribute. And it was FUN to watch the kid who had no self confidence at the beginning of the year make the plays and contribute.

Based on discussion with UnBison and his posts, I get the feeling he would make an excellent coach for 'minors' and I would :rofl: watching the parents try to deal with him.

Back to the topic at hand: I love option football. It takes a lot of skill and execution to work. It does not have to be the mainstay nor does it have to be run out of the veer. When executed, it is a thing of beauty (for kids, HS, college, or the pros). And yeah, I had sixth graders running the veer! ;)

56BISON73
02-22-2011, 05:57 AM
execution is a not just players it is coaches having the kids prepared.....it is coaches demanding execution or you are on the bench!

two vince lombardi quotes come to mind

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence




Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.

Good post!!!!!

344Johnson
02-22-2011, 01:57 PM
Lakes has attacked me :( I was on the Dean' List and my mom says that makes me a smart boy.

Notorious
02-22-2011, 02:25 PM
UnBison hit a valid and key point. I have had the opportunity to coach minors (grades 4 to 9). I never had a loosing team. I made it a point to understand what the kid wanted from the experience and then worked to get their wants into the team goals. That does infer that I did get inside of their heads.

BTW, Goal number 1 was to have FUN! Fun meant hard work and finding out just how much each kid really had to contribute. And it was FUN to watch the kid who had no self confidence at the beginning of the year make the plays and contribute.

Based on discussion with UnBison and his posts, I get the feeling he would make an excellent coach for 'minors' and I would :rofl: watching the parents try to deal with him.

Back to the topic at hand: I love option football. It takes a lot of skill and execution to work. It does not have to be the mainstay nor does it have to be run out of the veer. When executed, it is a thing of beauty (for kids, HS, college, or the pros). And yeah, I had sixth graders running the veer! ;)

I have coached a little as well, and couldn't agree more!! Good post....goal #1...everything else is a byproduct (i.e. wins!!!)

TheBisonator
02-22-2011, 09:42 PM
Run the veer...

Hell, let's go back to leather helmets and play on Churchill Field every Saturday!!

(But seriously, I would go with a veer-inspired spread option offense)

344Johnson
02-22-2011, 09:49 PM
What is a normal age to get into coaching kids starting out. I am only 19 now so i'd assume its still going to be a little while but I would think its fun.

CAS4127
02-22-2011, 09:50 PM
What is a normal age to get into coaching kids starting out. I am only 19 now so i'd assume its still going to be a little while but I would think its fun.

Not sure, but watch for a bill on this from the ND legislature this session.

344Johnson
02-22-2011, 09:52 PM
I am confused.......I think. Is this a UND bill reference haha

nortH dakotA
02-24-2011, 03:17 PM
Lets just keep sticking with Vigens kick ass offense!!

HerdBot
02-24-2011, 06:27 PM
Would you rather go back to the veer, or continue watching this offense with its same level of execution......... Partially kidding but mostly serious....see, look at my face.:uhyeah:

It is sad when I come to the dome on a saturday and am subjected to watching this atrocity of an offense.

However it would also be sad to run a silly offense I see four teams run.

Jamestown High School(What is a playoff berth and does it come from the hospital? :confused: )
Air Force(Shouldn't we have a good....air attack? :blush: )
Navy(Whats up Brah'? :cool: )
Georgia Tech(Where did the wins go? Oh, with Dwyer? ok :( )

If the veer could be executed better than our current offense, yes. But how tough would it be to completely revamp the offense? Do our o lineman have the skill set to run the veer? In not an expert in the subject but doesn't the veer generally feature undersized lineman that are good at pulling? We have big ass dudes whose strength is pushing forward and wearing the Dline down and our receivers are not elite blockers either. I know its not a serious discussion but with our current personal I don't think we would be very good at the veer.

How many MCFC teams run the 3-4?

344Johnson
02-24-2011, 06:49 PM
Who knows. I think it can be done with bigger guys to if you want but I would not know.